/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69599899
He has a funny face. Meanwhile Riku has a punchable face

>>69599899
Because the girls like him so I like him.

he tries to do his best for his menhera children

>>69599899
Riku's mission vision is to make lots of money
YAGOO's mission vision is to make a vtuber idol agency much like akb48

You can tell just from that where their priorities are

>>69599899
Man wanted to make an idol corp. He got the most menhera bitches Japan had and yet he still believes. He is the Superman of Vtubing who fights a never ending battle even as times and people change.

>>69600048
He's since given up on the AKB48 dream. He's content with his comedians.

>>69599899
Not exploiting your employees is a very high bar for a Japanese business.

they love him because he's undermining gura

>>69599899
The bar is that low.

>>69600134
I believe in yagoo's dream.

>>69599899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jporpTqTQ

>>69599899
Not exploiting your employees while still making substantial profit and an immense cultural impact is a very high bar compared to most corporations in the world.

He's just a humble vtuber farmer.

>>69600048
Jobless schizo why do you think companies go public?

>>69599899
>Random investor: "Yes, I have a question. Using Nijisanji as a reference, aren't you paying way too much to the talents?"
>Yagoo: "No."
He is a good guy.

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.
You would be surprised...

>>69600439
Nijisister your company is collapsing because of this flawed mission vision

Your investors can only do so much kek

>>69599899
The bar is nearly buried under the ground, yet most CEOs still trip on it.

Not for the CEO of a Japanese company.

>>69599899
He should collab with Gunrun

>>69599899
I shook this man's hand in California when I went for CtW. He showed up to a fan/cosplay meetup happening unnanounced. Stayed for a few hours taking photos, even staying an hour or two longer than planned so more people could get photos. He's just chill like that, I really respect him.

>>69600907
Make no mistake: He hated every second of it. He's comically introverted, but also too polite to say no.

>>69599899
>genuinely respects the talents who work for his company
>supports their wellbeing and pays them even if it pisses off nip shareholders
the bar is on the fucking floor for companies like these, so someone jumping over it is worth commending.

>>69600220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wIdC0FY4AE

As far as tech-CEO's go he seems like a legitimately alright guy. He gets along with fans and talents, doesn't take himself too seriously, and has repeatedly insisted that talent revenue split remains untouched despite the demands of shareholders.

>>69600427
organically grown and harvested

>>69599899
>seems like a low bar
And yet.

From a professional standpoint he's done everything a CEO is required to do. He's an actual face of the company. He shows up enough to at least give off the impression he has an idea of what is happening within the company. Whether by luck or design he's made the right call with the 3 most notable disasters in company history Coco, HoloCN and Rushia. No reputational shitflinging, only at worst neutral statements of termination in HoloCn and Rushia. Remember Holo never let it slip Rushia was married. And you probably have the best sendoff that you could possibly do for Coco. Were there fuckups here and there? Mel's entire situation was pretty fucked from start to finish, Aloe situation might have been handled better maybe. But when it came down to the crunch he and his team handled most situations to a professional standard

>>69599899
The bar is so low that it is effectively unmined ore.

>>69599899
Turns out people will like you if you aren't an irredeemable piece of shit.

>>69601961
His interviews make it pretty obvious he knows the business very well.

>competent CEO
>cares about more than just money
>nice in person based on all reports
More importantly, regardless of whether it's exaggerated or not, Hololive has built a reputation of Yagoo "saving" talented girls with failed dreams by giving them a second chance and opportunity.

>>69599899
What do you do for a living bro? i work in tech and in 22 years i haven't found a single boss that isnt a fucking moron, Tanigo is a broski and he comes from that same tech background, him being the way he is is very rare.

>>69599899
He has fun interactions with the girls too. Plays up the fun CEO bit a little and it can be endearing to a meme community, helps that the girls also do this like with the golden Yagoo stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDCj581-W6k

>>69599899
>Girls seem to like him and freely talk about him
>Money is being invested back into company
>Puts out various messages to communicate with the fans
>Seems like a down to earth guy, advertises chuuba merch using himself when asked
>Takes time to fulfill other chuuba requests as well
>Showed up in person for the LA con

He seems like a nice person, who believes in his employees and business and remembers to acknowledge and talk to the fans.

>>69602648
I like how his name has been completely changed just because Subaru is illiterate.

>>69599899
Because unlike most CEOs most of the money generated is going back into the talent, production, projects, etc. Hes just a cool guy

>>69599899
>company pampers their talents to the point where they can pull Yodayo-tier schedules if they wanted to
>allows cover to be very collaborative with third parties
>permits monetization of clipping and fangames that follow their simple guidelines
>3d for everybody
>talents graduate with dignity
>active participant in events, interviews and streams now and then
>lets the talents poke fun at him and even sends voice recordings and clips on request
>has sent happy birthday and congratulatory messages
>has modeled mech for his talents
>has had many open conversations with the girls, even cried in front of some of them
>visits conventions now and then
>has a dream
>is a meme
Sou desu ne

I'm afraid of the day when Yagoo is gone and Holo is at the mercy of some random shit CEO like every other company

>>69599899
I believe in his dream

>>69603355
That will probably be the end of Cover, unless A-Chan takes over.

>>69599899
If that is all it was you would be hearing less if him.

>>69603355
The GabeN Problem.

>>69599899
It isn't only that he doesn't abuse his employees or his power over them. He seems to understand what causes a person to grow, and he has the means to facilitate this in even the most unstable women.

>>69601961
Mel was the kindest chuuba I've ever seen. Did we ever find out what the NDA breach was?

>>69600736
Check his recent LinkedIn posts

>>69599899
He's married and treats holos like his own children, for better or worse.
Especially the homos.
Cover also only got popular because two high school girls bullied him into letting them promote his tech by streaming with an anime avatar and he has never mentally recovered from that.

>>69599899
Humble face and behavior
Actually protected two of his talents against the west taiwan psychopaths to the point of shutting off the CN branch and being assfucked by the investors

Managed the boys himself at first
Regularly congratulate everyone
Used himself as a model to promote the merch
Participates on a semi-regular basis in his talents's skit/stream ideas

He's probably one of the most fucking based CEO still breathing and everyday I wish nothing but happiness to this dude

>>69599899
You’d be surprised to see how few bosses clear that bar.

>>69599899
>Invests in the talents, even the males, even at one point being the manager for Stars because he liked them so much
>Cut his own pay when the Coco drama started
>Invests his money back into the company to make the employee's and the livers lives better.
>When cost of travel is too much the company helps cover costs
>implements services for people to get merch cheaper and quicker
>congratulates talents on their achievements
>Has actually shed tears over the talents accomplishments.

you tell me anon

>>69599899
The dude worked out for a shit ton of big companies in his career, and still allowed two teenage girls to realize their dream through his corporation nonetheless, even if it had barely anything to do with his starting idea. For someone as high in the industry as him, it's some really humble stuff.
He also often just participates in everyone's projects, and doesn't mind being a source of laughter, even if it involves mocking his age or his appearence. Hell, he even took a fucking paycut HIMSELF while the Taiwan shit was going on, only to turn the consequences of the incident on him instead of the girls. I don't know this dude personally, and he probably has a lot of flaws like everyone, but he deserved massive respect for how humble and dedicated he is.

>>69599899
He's a nice guy and wants to help people. He has a nice smile and a good attitude. He understands the vtuber sphere and helped make it. He cries when bad things happen to his talents and he laughs and smiles when good things happen to them. He is also a saviourfag and saves particularly helpless girls which speaks directly to me. In a world of money worshipping entrepreneurs who will step on anyone to get rich and powerful, someone who cares more about the people he works with than the money he makes is something to cherish.
Because he leads hololive we know they will never treat talents badly on purpose or maliciously.
It is something money worshippers can never understand.

>>69604417
sora is so fucking rich now yet she lives in a cramped room at her parents house last i checked
she is a pure soul and would never bully yagoo
A-chan however gave him the full CBT course with stiletto heels

what the fuck are most of the replies in this thread lmfao

And the guy don't had any scandal related to him like cheating his wife with any of these young pretty woman.
Japanese people loves to cheat and love youth, even more if you are a rich oji-san.
The guy is saint

>>69605989
>OP asks question
>People answer
What exactly are you confused about?

>>69605989
You don't have to hate things that others like anon. You don't have to be that way.

>>69605820
giwtwm

>>69600474
I've been thinking about how much clout yagoo is getting with his investors from this whole Nijisanji debacle. I bet a lot of them were upset he wasn't going the Niji route, but now they're like oh shit, nvm Tanigo-sama, you do your thing

The best explaination would be he doesn't feel like a man in the high castle.
A lot of CEO's are dickheads that feel like they've a status to maintain, but yagoo feels humble enough that Hololive talents can even use him to shit post or make jokes.

>>69604280
no but there's a Mio stream from two years prior where she does "fortune telling" and one of her lines to Mel is something to the effect of "you need to learn when to keep your mouth shut" so we can assume it had happened a few times already by the time she got fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vm9o3TIyfc

>>69604280
I loved Mel but if you think she was an angel incarnate then you really don't know women too well or humans in general for that matter.

>>69599899
>Is it just because he doesn't take advantage of his employees
It helps

>>69600134
some of the most successful idols in AKB and their sister groups were popular because of their humor. the comedy show AKBINGO practically launched the entire brand and their mainstream success. foreigners think japanese idol = cutesy girls but it's more like amateur entertainers of all different personalities and goals trying to appeal to as many types of fans as possible. in that respect, hololive is actually more like AKB now than ever.

>>69606632
Damn, it's like she went on a direct rant about Mel needing to shut up because she's used up her chances.

>>69605678
>Ankimo's channel is dead but he still gets a temple dedicated to him
I kneel

>>69604280
She was just a textbook airhead and took too many puffs of air one day and the balloon popped.
There's been a lot of problems for her along the way (sometimes directed at her and sometimes because of her), just nothing EXTRAVAGENT like with Rushia.

I think most everyone liked Mel, but there's only so much lenience that can be allowed especially when larger and larger corporate contracts come into place.

Mel will be fine. She has a lot of friends in hololive still and is very famous now. When she comes back she can do what she wants and there will be plenty of fans waiting for her.

>>69607781
If she even comes back, shes been radiosilent for a month now.
Despite how Aloe and Rushia's situations went and things that came after, Mel is actually the one that more likely to an hero than the other 2

>>69599899
He makes less money than the talents
He puts everything back into the company
He cares about the talents
I am still not convinced he isn't Sora's father

>>69608174
I doubt she would anhero. She has a ton of RL friends many from hololive and is probably very well off financially. She's been working non stop for Holo for a long time is a month or two break really that big of a deal? Let her enjoy her money.

>>69608174
>Mel is more likely to kys than Aloe
Lmao no. You know she threw herself out of her apartment window right and survived because a tree broke her fall?

>invests in and supports his male livers
Why the fuck are we pretending like Yagoo isn't the FUCKING PROBLEM?!

>>69609950
Shut up phasetroon.

>>69609950
The problem is you.
It was always you.

>>69600977

Well too bad because it's your actions that define you and not your thoughts. If you act good, you're good, no matter what's boiling inside you.

>>69609760
>can't even kill herself right

>>69610293
Hard to kill yourself when god is looking out for you. I'll pray you find lord jesus in your life and become a person who doesn't gossip like a mentally ill girl on 4chan.

>>69610509
Excuse you. I'm Hindu. Don't assume my religion or try to force yours onto me.

Yagoo is real.

Riku is a forced meme.

would you trust yagoo with xitter?

Buy an ad

>>69604280
I wasn't just referring just to the NDA breach. I was referring to the whole stalking episode when every active holo was growing (similar to Aki who was in hospital so no stream no growth and missed the wave) to the NDA breach. That complete timeline of events is just shitty. I don't believe we will ever know what the NDA breach was about,

>>69610964
I did. You're in it. Read the sign next time.

>>69601961
Bullying Coco into graduation yes...
did you forget how the managers gave moderation rights to the Chinese haters and the many other "incidents"?
Giving out 3 different excuse messages in 3 languages which contradict each other.
3 weeks forced vacation for coco putting the blame on her when it was a management mistake, and the manager should have been fired instead.
BLACK

>>69610984
Oh I forgot I'm glad Yagoo was always encouraging Aki, despite her lack of growth for a long time. She's doing so much better now and always puts on the best special events

>>69611748
Sister go back to the doxxsite and come up with some better shit

>>69611748
> managers gave moderation rights to the Chinese haters
Did they or did Coco do it by accident?
>>69601961
Honestly only Coco is the real company misstep. The other two were unfortunate but Cover did nothing wrong in handling it.
Coco graduating and going back to being an indie immediately means that either she was forced out against her will or she wanted out of Cover specifically for whatever reason.
It is obviously a bad look but it was handled graciously by both sides instead of what nijii did with Selen.

>>69600977
That just makes him kneel worthy

>>69612283
My takeaway from the Coco situation while it was happening was that both tried to make it work after the Taiwan incident somewhat died down, but the fact the she kept getting chinese bot spam until the very end, and couldn't collab without their partners getting shit flung at them (and bots too) made her realize its better for everyone if she just leaves, and things did stop after she left. Then she insisted that she just went for the best monetary option, so still can't even say the mishandled her.

>>69612835
Maybe. does Kson still get CCP spam?
Or did they decide that they won?

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar

It is indeed a low bar. Welcome to late-stage capitalism.

>>69599899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuY6BKIY004

Yagoo is willing to be among the people, instead of just being some CEO looking to be treated like royalty.

Asmon and Connor dislike hololive though. They dont like how Hololive owns the characters and they take a huge cut out of their earnings. Connor said he would never take cuts out of his talents if he started a vtuber company.

>>69606885
Couldn't say it better myself this format Hololive does it well mixing comedy and live performances.

>>69614790
How would you make money then?
What would the point of the company even be?
How would you support the more struggling talents and give all of them the resources they need?
What a dogshit retarded take.

>>69613293
she doesn't keep getting spammed, but the zhangs keep trying to screw her with any shit they can on the premise of ¨if you want Chinese money, blacklist her¨.
there are few international companies that raise their middle finger to the Chinese cry, the good thing is that the more time goes by the less they pay attention to them.

>>69615132
Connor lives in a fantasy land where youtube views alone are enough to make anyone involved a rich bastard like him, he's got no idea of investment and developing stability

>>69606661
I just realized that I forgot a word in my post.
>Mel was the kindest chuuba termination I've ever seen.
Big difference.

>>69604280
A-chan's comments on Meru's termination might shed some light.
She said that an NDA must still be honored, no matter what one is feeling, which might suggest Mel venting to a third party when she shouldn't have.

>>69599899
At the end of the day he made the right decisions, and when stuff went wrong he apologised and corrected it. Yes he's humble seeming and plays along with the goofiness but I think it's only lasted this long because Holo remains largely squeaky clean in an industry that chews people up and spits them out - even when talents are frustrated by corpo restrictions the atmosphere of respect seems mutual

>>69599899
Old Japanese men: cute
Young Japanese men: ew

>>69610787
Nobody can fuck it up more than elon has short of turning it off and returning capital to investors/debtors, which would still be the smarter play for everyone involved at this point

>>69614790
pretty ignorant take by them. it's like an actor being paid to play a movie role, with all the work costs covered by the studio, but the actor still wanting to take the rights to play that character and profit from it independantly after their job is done.

>>69600736
Not gonna happen in a trillion years.

>>69599899
We call him Yagod for a reason.

He's a guy in over his head that tries his best, there's been plenty of outright awful mistakes under his leadership, but it often seems to be the fault of middle management. Reinvesting into the big ass studio helps as well

>>69599899
He keeps Gura locked in his rape dungeon. I hate him.

>>69599899
"In my business card I am the CEO of Cover Corporation. In my mind, I am a talent manager. But in my heart, I am a Vtuber fan."

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.

>>69599899
Le reddit memes

>>69621645
Slience, shitposter.

>>69599899
he took a chance on an unknown who wanted to give up and promised her she'd be a star one day
he's largely the reason i have my oshi, and im grateful
https://youtu.be/q-jporpTqTQ?si=v-rxObpHfisjtOP5

he took a chance on my oshi which allowed me to find her
https://youtu.be/q-jporpTqTQ?si=v-rxObpHfisjtOP5

>>69600149
Kek

>>69603355
YAGOO is 50 years old, he should still have 10-15 years of gas in him before that becomes a possibility

>>69604417
So much S O V L in that webm...

>>69614790
>Actually retarded takes
Are you for real?

>>69611748
>bullying
Coco left because she couldn't do a lot of the streams she wanted to do with Cover. The chinese thing had blown over by this point. It's worth noting one of the first streams Kson did was a chaturbate stream naked with Melody. Coco said that her and cover were very amicable but just wanted different paths. Cover wanted the idol route and Kson wanted to do RL streams and risque content.
>gave moderation rights
You think this was intentional? You don't think that her manager got the ban list and mod list mixed up or something? It was also corrected pretty soon afterwards.
>3 weeks forced vacation
Coco left to let the management team fix the channel and let it die down. It was a good decision and she was rolling in money at the time so taking a vacation wasn't a bad thing at all.
The main issue with the Coco and china drama I think Cover could have done better and I do mean the one thing, is hire a professional moderation group for the talents. But that's about it.
You obviously weren't here when it happened and so it's understandable you don't know much about the incidents in detail so I hope I cleared it up for you newfriend.

>>69599899
>a bit older, so wiser with more life experience
>treats his talents like children to nurture, not money-rags to squeeze for every drop and throw away when they're dry
>is actually involved with the talents, not some ivory tower no-face puppet master
>genuine friends with Polka, one of the talents
>has no problem with his face being a running gag with the talents, even encourages it
>got the fuck out of China when he smelled the smoke, so the fire didn't burn the company down
>actually pays talents what they earn
>actually hires managers to manage talents, clean shit and get perms
>is actually concerned with maintaining a comfortable work environment, so that talents don't start bitch fighting over stupid nonsense and know what their job is and how to do it, unlike "some other" companies
>shows human emotion, probably not a reptiloid obsessed with yachts
>said work environment means that talents like Noel, who despite having a "side gig" that isn't a big secret that makes her stupid fucking rich, still wants to stay in the company
>reinvests in his own company
>talents can collab with mostly whomever they want, barring some very rare exceptions
>talents get perms mostly for whatever they want, barring some rare exceptions
>permits fangame makers, clippers, fanartists to do mostly whatever the fuck they want
>many other things

No man is perfect. Yagoo certainly isn't. But he did way way WAY more good than bad and it's not even close.

>>69599964
Fpbp

>>69600041
Niji is a black company
Phase is a mental assylum
Hololive is a house for retarded children

>>69614790
Asmon is a normie and Connor is a fag

>>69614362
>introverted man is forced into public
this man is being bullied by his company lmao

lets not forget buying Kobo's ticket so she can go back when her dad had a medical emergency

>>69623830
>Kson did was a chaturbate stream naked with Melody. Coco said that her and cover were very amicable but just wanted different paths. Cover wanted the idol route and Kson wanted to do RL streams and risque content.
nta
but you shouldn't talk about something you don't have a fucking clue about.

>>69625555
You're literally that anon, keep seething tourist.

>>69625610
nigger you are the tourist here, do you know how stupid you sound to someone who did watch his streams?
I can see a mile away you are a clipnigger thread reader.

>>69626143
>his

>>69599899
When he learned that the EN girls were reaching a breaking point with EN management(Omega) he started sitting in on meetings under the pretense of practicing his English. The only things I can fault him for are his irrational support of Holostars that it becomes a detriment to the Hololive girls and how a lot his business decisions are too cautious especially in regards to stocking and shipping merch.

>>69599899
leftsist goys are brainwashed into worshipping corporations and celebrities
this fag being in charge of it is like a religious icon to them

>>69626791
what's the point of attending the EN meetings if he can't understand what they speak? Did he hire a interpreter?

>>69626791
>The only things I can fault him for are his irrational support of Holostars
holostars are the canary in the mines. there's no reason to support them because they generate less income, but yagoo kept them anyway because he's not driven by money. the day they closed down holostars is the day you know cover corp is turning into nijisanji.
some unicorns here are insane enough to desire money-driven CEOs like riku to run hololive. they are more dangerous than the male talents.

>>69626791
Omega was never a manager. Where did this rrat come from?

>>69614790
I don't like them owning the designs but that's all I can agree with them own

>>69626791
>irrational support of Holostars that it becomes a detriment to the Hololive girls
His equal treatment of ALL talents under Hololive Productions is exactly why he is well-loved by everyone.
If he is the type to leave Holostars for dead because they don't bring in the numbers, he wouldn't have supported Miko during her early days where she was the absolute bottom of the barrel, neither would Suisei have been pulled out from Innonaka into Hololive proper.
His unconditional support for all his talents regardless of which branch they are and how much they bring to the company is exactly why Cover is not a black company.

>>69603355
Yagoo is probably grooming A-chan into his position so when he retires A-chan is already well-learned, enough that maybe she can even surpass Yagoo?
Imagine, the only way to become Hololive's CEO is the idol way and no other. After all, Yagoo IS said to be the "perfect idol"

>>69626791
>The only things I can fault him for are his irrational support of Holostars that it becomes a detriment to the Hololive girls
I'm sorry, I'm actually curious about this. You say they are detrimental...how? This is, for all intends and purposes, Yagoo's pet project while hololive is more of an A-Chan/Sora project, even if there might be crossover here and there. Unless you mean "BOOHOO THE MONEY THAT COULD'VE GONE TO THE GIRLS WENT TO THE BOYS INSTEAD" and to that all I can say is, what about the fucking studio, anon-kun?

>>69626791
What even happened with Omega? I completely missed out on all that.

>>69626791
>that it becomes a detriment to the Hololive girls

It fucking astounds me there are people who genuinely believe this. The unicorn victim complex is insane.

>>69626791
If yagoo is money driven, He would have let Miko go.
If yagoo is money driven, Azki and Suisei would have been gone the moment innk didn't bring the results he wanted.
If yagoo is money driven, Holo would still be in china.
If yagoo is money driven, he would've been late to the EN vtuber boom and would have started with males after seeing Luxiem go boom.
If yagoo was money driven he would've made a memorandum to not send any merch to Europe because DHL fucced them over.
If Yagoo was money driven, he would be Riku Tazumi. Looking over a burning field and not caring for his crops.

>>69629114
troon got fired

>>69628724
If she did become CEO one day she'll have to expose her face. no time for streaming either, yagoo is unable to watch a holo stream in a long time due to how busy he is.

>>69599899
unlike most other CEOs he does not give a single fuck about shareholders imperative

>>69629461
>troon
cringe, kys please anon

>>69629563
I mean sure, what's the problem? We'll get A-chan face reveal as she ascends as the new CEO while Nodoka takes in A-chan's role.
...You know, this is starting to make too much sense to me.

>>69629748
There's nothing wrong with being transphobic, anon-kun

>>69599899
He's literally the one good jap ceo

>>69629050
Cover keeps pumping out Holostars haphazardly which means more staff and support, most importantly 3D lives and events when they can't even keep up with the current output.

>>69629786
>There's nothing wrong with being transphobic
not when you make it your entire personality, you're more than the trans at this point, please kys.

>>69630269
more annoying*

>>69630269
>>69629748
you good?

>>69627844
>kiara stream after management restructuring
>''many things are changing... for the better''
>Unprompted ''Omega who?''
I think is pretty clear anon.

>>69630371
No. She was asked about Omega and she said
>Who? Oh they went ages ago.
In what way does that say they're management?

>>69630188
Anon
They are not a small indie agency that can barely stand on their feet
They are a full blown international corporation that pumps enough money that fucking Kiara takes her tight new girlfriend to Maldive every fucking month and Gura/Ayame can fuck off for half a year and still live a life of luxury.
I'm pretty sure if they are throwing enough money on Hololive for Holostars to not be an issue, m8.

>>69630188
>keep pumping out
For EN?
The trend for Holostars is extremely obvious, just look at StarsJP. They had 3 generations of Holostars and nothing else for at least 3 years before they debuted Uproar, going from 9 members to 13 members.
EN is currently at 10 members, without the 2 graduations they'd have 12 members.
These number of talents is needed for branch wide activities to work effectively.

Unless they come across any lightning-in-a-bottle tier talent, I think we can confidently say HolostarsEN will stop at the current 10 members.

>>69599964
fpbp

>>69619248
It sounded more like them WANTING to look the other way and pretend it didn't happen, because they really didn't want to lose her, and whatever it was was just a stupid mistake with no malice, but because they're NOT a small indie company, they didn't have any choice. They basically gave her the closest thing to a graduation they could given the circumstances, by not suspending her, letting her continue to stream up until the very end, letting her leave a message apologizing and saying goodbye on both her Holo and RM accounts, and everyone giving her a warm sendoff.

>>69630188
>Cover keeps pumping out Holostars haphazardly which means more staff and support
EN pumped out 2 generations back-to-back because they learned from ID1 and EN1 that you need a minimum of about 5-6 people in a branch to keep people interested. starsEN3 is a response to their loss of magni and vesper. I'd reckon they will stabilize for now with 10 EN stars under the belt. Feel free to grudgepost if starsEN4 was announced before 2025.
the last addition to JP stars is in early 2022, that was over 2 years ago.
>most importantly 3D lives and events when they can't even keep up with the current output.
they're fixing it with the new rule of only 1 sololive per person every year, but that rule will happen anyway without holostars. the total number of vtubers working for cover corp always goes up. if they dont have male talents we'll have 24 new female talents instead and the same problem with studio scheduling.

>>69630905
>HolostarsEN will stop at the current 10 members
there right now blue dorito is running publicly anounced auditions for the next wave of holostars

>>69629050
>what about the fuking studio, anon-kun?
said studio, who is 90% funded by the girls who also has a bigger queu due to homos? I'll even throw you an example, Aster booked it for a 3D who had shit views and Sc(color me surprised), while Aqua had to be pushed back a few months denying a 3D live that would have easily had 6 times the viewership, merch sales and SCs, when more homos come and more girls come the studio cooking will bea nightmare, then how about getting rid of 23 liabilities aka holostars???

>>69630269
found the troon

>>69628063
It's really akin the playing a movie role and wanting to keep the characters right and use it for personal profit after the movie contract ends. There are cases of vtuber keeping their character, one I can think of right away is komori met. She was 774s top talent and she wanted to graduate and join vspo. Vspo negotiated with 774 so she can keep her character and make it so she doesn't graduate, but call it a transfer. I don't know what was negotiated or how much money was involved, but it went smoothly. Now that character is owned by her.

In what world does yagoo not "take advantage" of his employees? How does capitalism work?

>>69599899
I am indifferent to him, but the talents all seem to respect him. He's clearly not just chasing profits either.

>>69631445
>Aster
Found the nijinig

>>69631445
>muh views, muh SC, muh merch
be careful anon, you're beginning to sound like nijisanji management.
cover corp is plenty rich already, there's no need to squeeze more money out of the fans. and the Aqua live, though delayed, DID happen.

>>69632484
>Be me
>Work my ass off and my asshole boss is reaping all the benefits
>decide to quit after saving money
>Me make company
>me sacrifice everything to create company
>No breaks, no pleasures, save every penny
>work every day of my life with no payed vacations unless I become a billionaire
>Hire people
>People work good
>People demand to have my same payment just because they spent 4 years paying some jew to teach them 80% stuff not related their current job
>They make memes of me being a hypocrite and a big suit getting all of the benefits from my workers
>They ignore the pain, the tears, the suicide attemps, the loans and the lack of sleep that brought me here
>I become a harsher boss due to that
>Worker sees my harsh attitude, decides he's not gonna be like me if he makes it
>he makes it
>cycle repeats

>>69599899
>he doesn't take advantage of his employees
>low bar
Not getting carried away with power is a good standard.

>>69631445
Counterpoint: Roberto actually refused the 3D stream offer for his birthday

>>69632683
>be careful anon, you're beginning to sound like nijisanji management.
Holy shit... you know what? forget what I said, Yagoo is doing a great job, I think I'll jog a bit at the park and rethink some shit, later anon and thank you...

>>69599899
>Japanese company
>Doesn't take advantage of it's employees
Great joke anon tell another one

Even Holo takes advantage of their talents by the standards of the civilized world

>>69599899
He's basically the kind of guy who made it big but is still humble and gives back to his employees instead of a turbo kike.

>>69634114
I'm guessing you're a NEET with no idea about how the civilized world actually works.

>>69634307
I understand completely anon
I just don't live in America
The US isn't what you would call civilized anyway

>>69599899
Does he even do anything other than collect money and model for merch photos?

>>69631445
>Aster

>>69599899
Dude just wanted to play VR Tennis with cute mascots. I can respect that.

>>69631174

Also, they fired green woman for NDA breaches, so if they didn't fire Mel, green woman could sue them for favoritism, and green woman is menhera enough to do it.

>>69599899
Easy to be a good guy when he can just let the fans regulate the talents.

>>69637804
He doesn't even model for photos anymore, supposedly due to his ags but I can't see how standing there holding a prop would be any more difficult than running a corporation.

>>69600439
NTA. Who knows.
In the case of Cover, the initial investors want to get their investment back in any form. Yagoo either has to sell Cover to a private entity (investors get their cash back) or to go public (they get their stocks to sell it or use as collateral).

>>69603355
Yagoo is just the face of Hololive, Achan does most of the work

>>69629114
The producer for Irys and a few of the EN songs. Omega was a response to fans loving the managers avatars. Omega avatar was dropped with a lot of other cancelled lore projects that the girls hated.

>>69630637
>>69630905
They can't hire more 3D staff because there are none available in the market, each Holostar gets access to state of the art motion capture for their 3D debut, birthdays and group anniversary which means the Hololive girls can't book the studio because the staff is busy working on Holostar projects. That's how they become a detriment, Cover can keep burning money on Holostars fans don't care about that, it's the long ass queue for 3D projects that's the problem.

>>69631174
I dunno about all that with Cover and Mel working out a planned exit for her. She was mentioning way too much about upcoming stuff in the days, weeks and months ahead in her final stream. Mel doesn't strike me as the type to knowingly lie to her audience with the knowledge she would be gone for good just a day later while dripfeeding them with things to look forward to.

>>69640260
I bet that Cover higher ups still wonder how they managed to get rid of Rushia without the company suffering catastrophic damage.

>>69644519
>it's the long ass queue for 3D projects that's the problem
Glad that several Holostars like Roberu, Temma and others only do 3D once a year

Yagoo shares the highs but also the lows with the vtubers. Lamy, Coco, and Miko all confirmed to have seen Yagoo cry in front of them, I think Subaru also said that but I can't confirm.

>>69606393
In terms of the entertainment route, I think he's been more than justified with what he does. But the thing that he'll get hammered for and Riku will earlier is the fact that they misrepresented their companies as tech. I don't see any path for Holoearth to work out which is the big part why Cover has the market cap it does and I don't see any easy way for them to reveal that it won't hit the scale they are pitching. The thing is supposed to be releasing this year and no news so far has been revealed about that.
>>69644519
The main issue from my perspective technically is the fact that they thought of the tech problems like 3D from the wrong perspective and didn't apply AI/machine learning in a space where most of the early achievements and software that was used in the indie space with regards to facial capture and motion tracking used research state of the art techniques in that field. I don't know honestly how they are going to make back their investment in their 3D studio when there are solutions like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvhIek6Q568 coming out. That company is now at the point where they can do all the motion capture from a video in the cloud with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPJHJPv7kbM and it won't take that much more to do it offline for enterprise purposes.

>>69645003
Gee how unprofessional >_>

>>69645309
Dreading the rollout of HoloEarth, given how rough 2024 has been already and how good a streak (setting aside Mel's termination) Hololive has been on of late it feels like they are due an inevitable setback. Just gotta hope it isn't massive

>>69645679
The main problem there is that the roosters are coming home to roost at the worst possible time, when all the major tech companies are pulling back and in recession mode and everything besides AI and to a lesser degree, semiconductors, is not a good sign for companies that portray themselves as tech if they can't deliver. It's also a double whammy because the platforms that Vtubing uses to make money are all big tech companies' property and they have had to pull back there as well so it is a double whammy. The mistake for Yagoo would be to keep doubling down on it if it isn't good and sucking his talent to try and prop it up which will affect Hololive's content greatly. We'll just have to see how it goes.

>>69600134
He certainly loved comedian stuff from the beginning otherwise he wouldn't have hired Subaru. Back then he directly had interviews with the applicants.

It's a bit annoying and cringe how he's worshipped for basically doing the bare minimum to not be a sleazy fucker.

>>69621170
Nobody tell him

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.
The bar is buried six feet in the ground and corpos all over the world still find a way to trip over it.
So when Yagoo comes in seeming like a down to earth guy who doesn't have his employees calling him a bastard on SNS 24/7, he comes across as likeable dude. He's not perfect, but he's likeable and for a lot of people that's good enough.

>>69645309
Looking back its crazy how the new 3D Studio was hailed as the solution to the crazy crunch on overbooking and so many having to cancel big events they wanted to do and instead of resolving that we got a notice that they were reducing the guaranteed number of 3D events each of them can do now to just 1 a year. On one hand, Hololive cannot risk growing stale but on the other hand they may have made the mistake Nijisanji made and grew too big for their own good.

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.
That bar is already too high for Riku.

>>69599899
I agree yagoos stupid face makes me giggle

>>69646964
The main issue is that Hololive never grew laterally on its content diversity and kept wanting to scale to higher budgets and etc. to make its content "better" when that isn't the solution here. They need more "Shiori" type Vtubers in their rosters where they know what they want to do, are doing unique content no one else is doing, and aren't breaking the bank. Her presence has been great at keeping at bay some of that staleness and even if she is weird, you can't fault her for her out of the box thinking with stuff like what she did recently with getting an "unofficial" 3D reveal with Unity and etc. No mocap needed and rudimentary by any means but the fans all ate it up.
Hololive hasn't done even nearly enough of thinking laterally with their content and some of their competitors' talents have done the same with out of the box ideas although it has been more of necessity because of the working conditions and red tape and lack of budget, but it is a genuine shortfall Hololive has been facing for a while. It's not nearly enough anymore to have the usual roster of playthroughs, karaoke/singing, and zatsus to carry you to high growth unless you have already been grandfathered in by prior successes. Kind of a good thing that Vtubing is growing out of this phase where everything has to be more idol-like but it will leave companies behind who insist heavily on that being the only path a Vtuber has to take in order to be successful at the company.

>>69641543
>In the case of Cover, the initial investors want to get their investment back in any form. Yagoo either has to sell Cover to a private entity (investors get their cash back) or to go public (they get their stocks to sell it or use as collateral).
Yagoo's stated outright that he was basically forced to make Cover public because of the investors or they'd have ousted him as the CEO.

>>69599899
Him commenting when watching Holostars EN 3D was pretty great.

>>69599899
He didn't start as some dickhead CEO taking over his daddy's dynasty like is so common in Japanese business.

He was a techbro trying to make it in VR and Crypto who happened to hit it big in an upcoming field

>>69599899
I distinctly remember him almost jumping onto NFTs and other tech grifting nonsense but it never manifested. I believe there's a world line where he's a pig like riku, but they have the correct people on the board to steer ship clear of those trashfire catalysts

>>69640933
Come back here when you became CEO on your 50s, with wife and kids waiting at home

>>69644918
I said before 2020-2021 is Hololive's learning experience. Rushia is their actual big test, and they handled that so gracefully

funny actually that 2ch has this thing going on with him which is basically 'the guy worked on hello kitty he cool'

>>69648516
Ame used to do that for HoloEN, but she's burnt out from the constant expectations of her needing to do unique content. They were trying to do that with ReGloss with its sorta-weekly podcast, and more out-there talent like Raden or Kanade, without compromising main HoloJP brands.

You can say that Hololive need to be more daring in debuting new talents, but that may just run into Nijisanji problem, especially with the Hololive philosophy of trying to support everyone.

>>69644522
Planned exit is an obvious coverfag cope. Some of them are now even pushing the rrat that Mel willingly chose termination over graduation. All this shit is just next level corpo cocksucking, ndf should take notes.

>>69600134
He never had an AKB48 dream. He just used them as an analogy to somehow explain what he was trying to do. Then retards took it too literally and he kinda ran along with it.

>>69652340
You don't need to reinvent the wheel every week, it just needs to be often enough like every few months or so. I forgot about Regloss as I am not a JP watcher, forgive me, but yeah, you're right that Raden and Kanade are kind of out there with that.
But I think Hololive is already running into the Nijisanji problem on the JP side, there is just way too many people. EN is still fine but I think they will be in the same situation if EN4 happens.

>>69619248
Mori and Kiara got the right idea about that. Apparently anytime one of them want to vent and bitch about something company related they just do it to each other. No risk of saying something to break NDA even by accident since they both work for Cover.

>>69652871
But a lot of the existing fanbase doesn't want new wheels at all, as you can see with ReGloss.

>>69653293
The point shouldn't be to transfer over your existing audience to Regloss here, it's to grow a new audience entirely that is different that likes what Regloss is doing and this also solves running into the stream overlap problem. Hololive shouldn't be treating them as failures if this was their intention, it is going to be a longer term investment like they said and the fact they separated them into their own "branch" belies their intention that they treat them separately and don't expect the existing fanbase to move Regloss into success territory.

>>69599899
After he left Sanrio he reportedly went to the Kiribati to consult a shaman
He reportedly purchased a charm that makes anyone automatically like him/take any negative energy away from him.

>>69653769
He literally has a witch larping as wolf among his employees

>>69652340
Regloss is pretty popular in the jp fanbase. You and that poster you are replying to just dont know well about the actual state. CCV and subnumbers don't tell the truth.

Also as for Raden, her personality/comedy/wording style is very Hololive but her art museum curator faggotry can't be popular anywhere, and what she "teaches" is mostly textbook drivel, and she sucks at gaming. If I have to talk about numbers that's why she cant gain numbers. Although she seems to have now built connections to other non holo "bunka kei = casually academic type" vtubers like a historian vtuber and a physics PhD one, so could actually cultivate a new genre in the vtuber industry.

>>69648516
You typed so much to say so little. Who are these competitors that are innovating?

>>69653600
>it's to grow a new audience entirely
That's what didn't work though. ReGloss is doing fine, but it's mostly based on that part of existing audience they could transfer.

>>69653600
Don't forget the small but vocal part of existing "audience" that stinks up the space every time they try something different, even if it's marketed as a different branch. You can see these faggots on full display here, but JP has their share of them as well.

>>69650542
And you believe that?

>>69656545
We believe everything Yagoo says here #trustallceo

>>69656545
yagoo has continually proven that most of the money made by hololive is reinvested back into the company. if he's a money chaser the mask would have slipped a long time ago. on the other hand, investors demanding their money back is as true as water is wet. is there a reason to not trust him, anon?

>>69631704
Pure brainrot, please kys

>>69655780
I'm not saying that Hololive aren't doing them now, they obviously copied what worked from other people not in the company but they were late adopters and the ideas were usually tried once or something only to never be done again just to mark it off a checklist. But just to satiate your curiosity which I am not obliging to answer afterwards, things that people take for granted now in Hololive but were done elsewhere first and still done better include CYOA/visual novel or interaction heavy streams, impromptu or actual acting/comedy skit collabs, and game show collabs (this one baffles me the most on why it took so long for EN to copy, even JP caught on really quick).
>>69656014
I guess since I literally forgot they existed. Dunno if Hololive is doing enough to promote them in more unusual places or not.
>>69656448
This is a consequence of the original sin of adopting the idol model wholesale with little modification here, because the numbers came in heavy and fast, but in return, you are now stuck to conform to it to keep those numbers. The corpos made their bed there so they should sleep with the consequences that entails.

>>69656448
Is this regarding Dev_is? What is or was the plan there, did Yagoo or A-chan ever talk about that.

>>69599964
Fpbp

>>69657148
Your examples are only slight deviations of the standard vtuber formula, upd8 was doing variety stuff a long time ago. You talked about the idol model but you're mistaken, Nijisanji popularized the vtuber formula we are familiar with to this day, they usurped the prerecorded format with zatsus,gaming and variety shows.

>>69657002
he’s not wrong
kys

>>69657507
Of course, but the Western vtubing style isn't any better with garbage like tier lists, react streams, user submission reviews and etc. which isn't exactly shining examples of being better here. You may disagree but upd8 was always more Let's Play focused with their actual Youtube content, the variety shows were always for TV first and commissioned by the TV studios which allowed it a separation boundary from the ordinary content. And with regards to the idol model comment, that wasn't aimed at Hololive specifically, that's an industry original sin, everyone just fell in line after Nijisanji proved out the viability of it on a large scale to attract numbers and investors and co. wanted that above actually providing the right foundations for the industry moving forward. And even then, Hololive for the longest time didn't innovate on that model and put out interesting content until doing 3D which set them apart for better or for worse.

>>69599899
He's the Steve Jobs of vtubing

>>69656545
>Giving free concert when they don't have the obligation.
>All refund policy.
Yes, his actions are more believable than anything.

>>69657166
This is regarding anything they try to attract other audiences. Homostars, VCR, Hlzntyuiop, girls trying to stream on twitch etc, Dev_is included.

>>69612347
Is there any CEO more beloved?

>>69630905
If you haven't noticed, it will be free real estate for the StarsEN soon.
Yagoo is intelligent enough to foresee NijiEN was not going to last long. Lack of management was doomed to fail. As if IN, KR, and ID didn't make it obvious enough.

>>69599964
Riku looks genuinely evil, like it's almost cartoonish.

>>69659320
Does the arrow indicate the only stray woman in this troon gathering?

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.
Apparently it's a very high bar.

>>69612283
>or she wanted out of Cover specifically for whatever reason.
she told the reason pretty clearly actually. think it was even when she was still Coco. She loved to push the rules set by management and her type of humor and content would often lead to frictions with said management.

it was memed to hell and back but in her case it was quite literally "talent freedom"

>>69660787
That's a fembud.
Check out Gurarium streams and see many female fans.

>>69659938
It's not even that he is ugly either, as you said it's almost cartoonish, you really just want to cave that face in and make it go away.

>>69662161
Kek, Yagoo top 1, just like here. Always knew "holobros" are mostly women/trannies who love the corpo and it's CEO more than the girls.

>>69663385
Yagoo is best girl

>>69599899
Because Yagoo is not a dickhead?

>>69663610
Thank you, now the right cheek please.

>>69663934
After what he's done for my oshi, I'll kiss both.
No homo.

I can take things for granted.
It's harder than you think.
Isn't YAGOO great at what it does?

>>69626827
This dude is a phasefag btw.

>>69599899
Yagoo didn't sell his soul to the chinks.

At that point, he gained my most admiration.

>>69664639
He sold it to the investors instead (how many of those are chinks btw?)

>>69599964
Fpbp

>>69665545
Confused with Niji.
Yagoo got a 2.7 Billion yen studio out of it. Stands strong against investors. Another admirable trait.

>>69665545
Confused with Niji. Billibilli has a strong influence them.

Yagoo got a 2.7 Billion yen studio out of it. Stands strong against investors. Another admirable trait.

>>69605989
Go back to /pol/, faggot

>>69626791
>That it becomes a detriment

The thing that outsiders and the anti-male schizo's don't seem to get is that Yagoo has done so much good with the rest of the company that we're all more than happy to allow hiw his Holostars pet project.

Is it a huge money maker? No. Does it upset a handful of loud morons online? Yes. But he rly likes it and we rly like him, so whatever, go nuts man.

>>69599899
A low bar that most corpo fail to do?

>>69654076
A hot fat hairy hag shaman larping as a wolf god bless

>>69645309
>I don't see any path for Holoearth to work out
The MMO part is pretty weird ngl, but if its a platform for fans to essentially attend a virtual live(with VR headset support), it'll have its niche.

Weebs don't speak Japanese.

>>69599899
>Fishman pays his people on time
this is an accomplishment btw. The bar is very low.

>>69606393
CEOs with vision and heart know what they're doing more and make better calls than investorfags? Who knew!

>>69624934

>>69675514
We're all turbotard autists here so it checks out

>>69676183
This is meant in the context of the girls, kek

I think he just got lucky and is very diligent, but as evidenced by the faggots he's senile now though, give Dimitry Jap the reins of Holo

>>69676401
still true

>>69614790
opinions from scumbags are discarded

>>69606885
Exactly. A lot of people dont understand that when they ask why hololive is so popular. They think it's just the dancing and singing on stage which couldnt be further from the truth. It's the combination.

>>69660787
That's still too many womans

hololive got coco AND rushia to quit over bullshit

niji got the best two EN talents period (pomu and selen) to quit

stop defending these shit JP companies.

>>69682556
>defending mike

>>69675127
That's not the scope pitched to investors for it, it has "metaverse" attached to it for a reason. I agree the virtual live thing is the only thing that will work and it isn't going to be groundbreaking on it's technical aspects but from Hololive's tying themselves into it.

>>69682862
>lets fire the #2 earner over some harmless shit
did rushia leak the CEO's address? no

>>69600048
>much like akb48
AKB48 is evil and everything wrong with idol so that's not a positive.

>>69684235
you tell em sister. something something idol culture something something cute feminine girls RRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>69619248
The statement in Mel's RM account basically confirms this.

>>69599899
it's just a meme that people like running into the ground. Most people don't actually particularly like yagoo

>>69631174
It was pristine, AnyColor could learn a bit about talent management from the way Cover dealt with Mel. Yes exactly, make out like it's just a sad thing that happened to occur, and the company bears her no ill will. That way you don't get a shitstorm. It really is that simple.

>>69676910
I like how Jap has so much good publicity all because Omega was so fucking incompetent he almost ruined HoloEN.

>>69674754
Hag sex.

>>69683708
Anon if cover cared about numbers and money as much as you did, they would just turn into another niji. I'm glad they are not like you.

>>69627151
He's not fluent per say but he's not completely ignorant either. Yagoo can puke up half-assed conversational Engrish.

>>69599899
Tanigo is a good CEO in a predatory industry, he shouldn't exist.

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar
Yes, but this industry is full of asshole CEOs exploiting their talents so he in fact is notable for not being an asshole (as far as we know).

>>69662161
>Choco, Mel, and Aki at the bottom
Why do JP femanons hate JP holoblondes?

>>69609950
>We???

>>69614790
I doubt Asmongold is well informed enough to even know how the arrangement works. Connor is just a fucking idiot. Let them go bitch about how Marvel still owns Iron Man after the work RDJ put into the role.

>>69631327
>starsEN3
If you're going to talk like you know shit, at least get it right there is no 3rd gen starsEN yet. People can cope all they want want but tempus is all one gen.

>>69697911
nah if we're speaking technically ARMIS is a new generation for holostarsEN. they're probably going to stop here for 2 years since 10 talents is enough to balance out (12 if ves and mag hadn't graduated)

>>69600134
>He's since given up on the AKB48 dream.
Yagoo hasn't made a HoloPro gen, there are walls that separate Hololive from Holostars, and management still does coomerbait swimsuit concerts for Hololive. Cover might not be strict like AKB48 but even in 2024 they operate under many of the same rules.

>>69645309
>I don't see any path for Holoearth to work out
Vertical integration of the content pipeline. I don't know how you morons don't understand this. Its a game with all the shit the talents like to do in games like rust, ark, minecraft, and palworld, except they don't have to ask for permissions and can add any shit they want to it. Being able to sell it as a game or as a way to sell micros and show concerts (a la PSO2) is a side benefit.

>>69697153
They're jealous, unironically.

>>69599899

>>69698050
Shinri was advertising the Holostars audition, Cover is probably currently looking for talent in the excrement pile that is male vtubing.

>>69599899
He's got a friendly face

he cute

>>69603296
>>visits conventions now and then
Wearing this

>>69614790
Who gives a fuck what their opinion is? You actually care what some twitch streamers think?

>>69599899
He maintains an image of himself as a dpting old uncle despite being just another corporate psychopath. But most people are too stupid to do research.

I love YAGOO because he gave me hags

>>69603355
A-chan is rumored to take over anyway.

>>69600439
Cover is a start-up, most of them get their money from Angel Investors and the angel investors get their money from a start-up selling or going public. The company started off as a 3d tech company in the metaverse and ended up becoming hololive. Literally no one, even yagoo expected the company to become what it is right now

>>69711146
proof?

>>69599899
>That seems like a low bar.
Yes, do you finally understand the 'YAGOO wins by doing nothing'