/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Graduate and fuck off from the industry

>>69503383
graduate and antagonize niji if they still want to do vtubing. Just say they blackmailed you or something.

If I was an eceleb involved in drama, I'd just carry on and refuse to acknowledge the drama. The masses have a short memory, so outside of the occasional anti you could probably salvage a decent amount of your audience, this strategy appears to be working for Mikeneko.

>If they ever tried to start streaming again and pretend like nothing ever happened I'm 100% sure they'd immediately crumble as their chat burns with a seething hatred never before seen since the Coco vs China era
or they'll just do what every niji who is streaming has done and set their chat to require you to be subscribed for a month before you can post so they can continue living in a hug box with the many greenies who still follow them

That faggot already destroyed his fanbase with latina pussy. The ones left behind are the cultists with stockholm syndrome.

>>69503383
>as their chat burns with a seething hatred
All they have to do is set their chats to 4 weeks or longer sub length. Basically anyone who unsubbed out of disgust or tourists won't be able to comment, and anyone left behind can be quickly banned by mods. It's easy to moderate chat nowadays.

>>69503448
A viable option if they are willing to sacrifice their chances of ever going to Japan again.

>>69503383
The best way to make a serious return, is to start over. The problem with really big scandals, is that they stick around for years. And when you are a talent-based company, that sells entertainment. Having stinkers like this on your business, scares away future prospects that could have been good livers.

Niji is fucked, they ruined their reputation in a small pond (the vtubing scene).

The people that unsubbed don't even watch streams

They have to prove that Dookie is lying about the harassment and lying but it's going to be hard. They should reveal the receipts about this and force her to reveal hers as well.

>>69503470
>>69503505
As long as they can deal with an absurdly slow chat consisting of what little glazers they have left I think they should be fine on the Youtube front. But I think they're utterly screwed on Xitter anyway, since they won't be able to turn off hate QRTs.

>>69503383
Vox has a literal legion of menhera orbiters that treat him like a god. Fucker will be fine.
The dragon is fucked by Ojisan so Riku doesn't have to bow again.

>>69503383
Get more mods, ignore retards. The second point is difficult but very important. If any containment breaking retards keep bothering them, their victimized credibility will keep increasing

>>69503584
>harassment and bullying
Fix'd

>>69503469
Vtubing fans dont forget. Just today Froot got into a lot of shit for trying to pin her past mistakes on autism. It wasnt as big as the niji yab but 500k people were seeing the tweets shitting on her

>>69503595
You don't notifs about QRTs either, so unless you're obsessed with egosa (and I'm not saying they aren't; they're streamers after all), you won't directly interact with them.

>>69503630
>closes xitter
what now

>>69503584
it's going to be hard because they know she's not lying you faggot

>>69503383
Vox has a small, devoted cult of ESL sisters. Problem is he hates them as much as every other person and doesn't stream so he never has to worry about that again.

>>69503563
I have several buddies in several circles who actually tuned into and even considered Elira their niji oshi prior to the black stream. After a few hours to a day of confused and pained denial, they decided to unsub and unmember and turned against her.

Reminder that Sio tried this and couldn't make it. And that was just blasting Roboco on 5ch. You can still see the sardonic comments from the final stream.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2LDOOSAmtc

>The fact that he took a break means that he has finally decided to fight the ninjas in the attic! I am supporting you!

>>69503699
Then why did they say "we absolutely believe no harassment took place"?

>>69503383
Vox can probably come back in some form given how crazy his fanbase is. Elira's fucked. Assuming she isn't outright given the banishment room treatment, she'll never be given any front facing positions or sponsorships again, especially when favoritism allegations are floating around. Her very presence is going to be a black mark on the branch and her colleagues will slowly resent her for that. Her psyche is likely in tatters at this point, knowing that she went from queen bee to persona non grata by her own hand.

>>69503584
Like the lawyer said, harassment is a legal analysis.

>>69503630
remember HLZNTL?

>>69503789
Are you actually so dumb to think they would just admit to it while the higher ups are watching?

Vox's fans are the ones who've been raiding her and other places for the last week. When the allegations about him and a 12 year old came put a while back some of them were saying they wish they were in the 12 year old's position. There is literally nothing to stop them from watching him.
They're genuinely fucking insane.

>>69503889
>raiding here*

>>69503750
I have several buddies in several circles who live in another country who did the opposite

>>69503383
They just need to learn chinese

>>69503886
They wouldn't be so confident to deny it if it had any real basis. Dookie pussying out of revealing her receipts is just more evidence of that.

>>69503584
This, they absolutely should show the receipts. They already admitted they saw the documents so it's no additional drama to cite Doki's claims, provide to their own screencaps and prove she's an oversensitive menhera. In fact it's the one and only good move they have here, and it's the ultimate move that would save them in an instant.
...
So, uh, why aren't they doing that? It's been a week, sisters.

>>69503383
The smartest thing for them to do is to turn on the corpo shift blame. They might be able to salvage an indie career that way. Assuming Doki will let them get away with it at this point.

>>69503383
Escape to Bilibili, the entirety of le retard de Vox Akuma's audience is in there anyway.

Elira can come back, the worst thing she did was be in the black screen stream, probably not Vox, or Millie/Enna when the receipts come out

>>69503383
I dislike both of them now, and I say this as a Doki Enjoyer, but I think that if they just returned to regular streaming and set chat to 2+ weeks of subscription to be able to leave a live comment then they’ll be fine. I wish the worst for them but I think if they just do their thing, moderate their chats, and stfu about their black company and Doki then they can at the very least comfortably carry on in Niji.

>>69503886
Panicking I suppose, with the person that reviewed the statement not giving a fuck or simply not existing.

>>69503955
Say ni hao to your friends for me.

>>69503469
im autistic too but i dont go about going uhh my mistakes are cause autism~ hehe now give me more subs~ especially since i doubt shes even on the spectrum or barely on it

>>69504332
fucking wrong reply meant to reply to the froot reply

>>69503383
While NijiEN sub counts have dropped, the members live numbers have generally stayed consistent. So I'm interested to see how members who are "guilty" will fare. Ike is still doing well.

>>69504002
39 IQ take

Doki doesnt need to fix nijisanji's mistake because they screwed up and made public claims she didnt. Randos on 4chan dont have the right to see legal documents and neither have any responsibility to do so for 39IQ sisters

>>69504593
Neither Doki nor Nijisanji have any responsibility to show legal documents for 39IQ shitters on the internet

>>69503813
holy esl! fix your grammar dude

>>69504525
Ike escaped because no one knew why the fuck he was there and he came off like he was super fucking uncomfortable. He's actually the only one who might have been forced.

Elira self-reported herself Millie, and Enna for bullying. More or less confirmed the clique theory. Vox Akuma, Ace Attorney, was le retard we all know him to be.

>>69503789
Either
1. Telling the truth and genuinely don’t know about anything.
2. Lying to avoid admitting the opposite in front of a million people and ruining their reputations for good, hoping their words are taken at face value and looking into this doesn’t go further.

>>69504002
Why are you so insistent on her revealing the receipts when it was niji who showed rge claims in the first place? They also have the receipts, you know? They can easily wipe the slate clean if they just drop it.
But no, they don't. I fucking wonder why? Don't they want to prove their innocence?

>>69504837
Vox is the proof that people needed that having an english accent does not infact make everything you say reliable or factual.

>>69504679
Oh you’re retarded retarded huh

>>69505010
>esl recoils in fear when he gets called out

>>69503383
>Whistleblowing
>Backstab Niji

>>69503584
>They have to prove that Dookie is lying about the harassment
they can't... because they literally did harassment live on stream...

>>69503872
what about it?

>>69504090
>Escape to Bilibili
That may work for Luxiem, since chinks are their primary fanbase, but everyone else are only sideshows. Also, the Chinese aren't all completely on Niji's side. They're much more split than the Japs, and many do in fact support Doki. Escaping to Niconico would be the play for Elira.

>>69503383
They'll be fine. You fuckers are going to participate and donate to Scarle and Enna's bday. Elira still has all her simps and vox will continue to exist like always.

>>69503383
>If they ever tried to start streaming again and pretend like nothing ever happened
Like everyone has been doing? Ike included?

>>69503469
It's shocking how well this works and how many (internet) people fail to do this.

>>69504593
Dookie:
>I have receipts that will unfortunately have to be made public okay?
>lol just kidding, I'm not going to make them public anymore

>>69505267
until doki says taiwans a country

>>69503584
I hope they take this advice because I don't like them and that's how you fuck yourself over in a situation like that.

>>69505353
Where did she say she'll make it public?
Take your meds 39IQ schizo

>>69505353
>I have receipts that will unfortunately have to be made public okay
>Source: My Ass

>>69505423
I believe she mentioned that in her chat but not in the stream. She just said "they don't know that I have receipts" in her stream and then followed with "that will unfortunately have to be made public" in her chat.

>>69505519
I see so it came to you in a dream
Because none of her public statements say that

>>69505267
Why did you think she said lunar new year is part of her tradition? It's to drum up Chinese support

Actually Elira will even get a return buff cause everybody will tune in to see if she'll melt down

>>69505519
No one unrelated has any right to see legal documents. Niji has the document and decribed what was in it.

That's their fuckup, not selen's.

>>69505519
>I believed she ment- SCHIZO FANFIC HEADCANON FANFIC FANFIC HEADCANON

Only thing Elira will return to is my dick

>>69505652
>39IQ schizo nijisisters actually believe this shit

>>69505544
>>69505626
>>69505652
You're lucky I can't find the screenshot right now because it absolutely happened and you're coping/damage controlling.

>>69504002
It must be so frustrating to watch a canto menhera outwit and outplay a billion dollar company and all their lapdogs so effortlessly. Just have a big cry and you'll get over it.

>>69505726
They should be on AO3 or fanfic dot net

>>69505754
fix your ESL before you continue posting. thanks.

>>69505726
That's cap
But it still doesnt matter. That statement isnt legally binding.
The actual document is with niji and neither they nor doki have any responsibility to show any of that shit to seething 39IQ shitters like you.

>>69505726
>In the Neopets stream at 8:38
>"I have evidence and receipts, and that is backed up by my lawyer. And that is all I will be saying regarding anything that is going on at the current time."
You're a lying fuck.

>>69505519
I don't know how public court cases are in Canada, were she to take the nuclear option. It is entirely possible such receipts would be made public in the course of such a trial. I think it is entirely fair that she gives warning, don't you?

>>69505726
>i can't find screencaps of something i made up in my head

I know Vox is the literal devil, but does anyone else thing Selen is a bit at fault? If she was less menhera this wouldn't have happened

>>69505985
If she goes into trial. But it's not worth it for both niji or her. She gains chump change for the money she'll have to spend. Nijisanji also doesnt gain much for what theyll have to expend

If niji wins in japanese court, they cant force doki a canadian to pay up
If doki wins in canadian court, she cant force nijisanji to pay up or prevent them from hiring canadian talents

The best option is to settle behind closed doors so both parties can move on amicably, but nijisanji and their lapdogs cant help but shit themselves in public

>>69505353
Just because the opposing side blew up their case doesn't mean she has an obligation to do the same. I'm sure her lawyer is moving things along behind closed doors and Anycolor is currently reaming out NijiEN "management" for this blunder privately.

>>69505726
>>69505777
>>69505787
>>69505847
>>69505933
>>69505985
>>69506027
https://youtu.be/A1YCUbQOJB0?t=893
Actually she said that in her stream as well, so open your mouth and get ready to suck my dick for being right about it, Dokicuck.

>>69505611
That goes without saying. Everyone, no matter what side you're on, would expect her return stream to have a large audience. But that's probably the number one least sustainable method of gaining numbers. It's a massive short term buff in ccv that comes with a severe long term debuff in every other area.

>>69506074
even if she was "less menhera" it wouldn't change management being shitty or nonexistent, preferable treatment, huge slowdown with 3D debuts, no promotions for new EN gens etc.
niji started stagnating long before current shitstorm

>>69503469
literally all niji had to do with both the firing and the black stream was shut up. what could have been a "sorry but this is an internal company matter" has since become a massive shitshow because they couldn't shut up to save face

>>69503780
>And that was just blasting Roboco on 5ch
That is not the extent of what sio did lmao, she blasted fucking everyone under then sun. The thing with robocco was just that she was the only holomen she said anything about, and it was just that she's bad at fps (she is).

>>69505652
Sister, please take your meds.

>>69506307
She said that you are an esl? What a mean bitch.

>>69506307
Finally the real test for if Doki was a lying piece of shit all along or if niji deserves to be sunk to the bottom of the sea with Vox and Elira tied to the mast.

>SEA hours

>>69503383
like ten more waves, maybe?

>>69506547
>ten more waves

>>69506074
If Niji had done their ONE job, her being menhera wouldn't have mattered. But they pawned off responsibility to pajeets and JOP minimum wage students and maybe even the menhera talents themselves, which guaranteed one shitshow after another. When your business revolves around tard wrangling a pack of menheras, and then you don't do it, it starts being your fault.

>>69506307
I think she should've said that but then again it was a reaction to a harassment hit piece live. She didn't know how public will react. After seeing that everybody got pissed at niji even more she decided that here's no point to start even more shit... Like it's common sense?

i'll let them taste the wheelbarrow

>>69505519
If this is true, the screenshots would've been everywhere in the catalog and nijisisters would've included it in their idiotic document.

>>69506074
> does anyone else thing Selen is a bit at fault?
Fault at what?

>>69506307
Still not legally binding
>b-but she said
Doesnt matter. You are literally negligible and lawyers from both niji and doki have no reason to show you legal documents, 39 IQ rando.

>>69505726
>You're lucky I can't find the screenshot right now

>>69506307
"Very unfortunate that we'll have to make it public later on"
This could literally be via potential litigation rather than public expose that the nijisisters make it out to be.

None of her official statements mention this and rightfully so, as its all shit thats up in the air

>>69506750
I found something even better: >>69506307

>>69503383
Record them having sexy ASMR together, I'm sure nothing bad can come out of this

It really baffles me the NDF always gets their asshole ripped in half and they still keep coming back for more. I'm starting to think being talked down is their fetish.

>>69506959
"BURPS"

>>69506950
Did she show them? No? Oh well.

>>69506976
more at 11

>>69506959
Don't forget to inclde Ike watching for those sexy water bottle squeezes.

>>69506976
It's literally their fetish.

>>69506976
They have to keep inciting, because the spooky BPD menhera narrative doesn't work if she keeps responding normally to the blatant provocation

>>69506074
The bullying was her acting like her toxic self thinking people know it is just banter when in reality she was offensive. And then when people returned the toxic attitude she obviously couldn't take it. Typical selen being able to dish it out and not take it. As for bullying on projects she has practically tattled on herself. She probably invested way too much money compared to what she would get back and niji noticed that so they tried to tard wrangle her into just streaming because this is what makes money. That is if you even believe the story about 200k. If it is all true then she is an indie now and she will eventually crash herself into the ground with this retarded spending. But I think it is more probable that none of it is true cause she and her mom are shrewd penny pinching asian women.

>>69506949
You would have an argument if she and her lawyer weren't trying to completely pussy out from it now

>>69507055
>The bullying was her acting like her toxic self
Proof?

>>69507080
>now
She's trying to decouple from Niji from the very beginning, do not blame us if you bought the sisters' SHE WANTS TO DESTROY NIJISANJI rrat

>>69507080
Why would she pussy out when shes winning by doing nothing. Nijisanji has to step up from their failures, she literally owes no one anything
Get dunked on 39 IQ nignog

>>69507080
>pussy out
Does she need to do Twitter Spaces every time she goes to the lawyer? We literally don't know what she's doing right now.

>>69506307
lol they make it too easy sometimes, gonna get a lot of mileage out of this

>>69507055
Fuck off Enna.

>>69507110
Since when to people here care about evidence?

>>69507230
Disgusting ESL.

>>69507153
That's right. She's 'winning' right now but this also means she can't sue the company for damages since she benefited greatly from the situation. Malfoy went over this in his stream. Basically he thinks Niji is invincible in this legally and she can't do anything to them.

>>69507230
Call it contamination, we got that disease from you sisters

>>69507080
Why would they open themselves up to litigations? Are you retarded?
>BUT SHE SAID
She said what she said on the spur of the moment while she was getting harassed in the middle of her stream. She literally wants to move on.

>>69507055
>literally everyone outside of NijiEN that has worked with Selen/Doki says she's wonderful to work with
>to the point companies like Hyte pull out of massive merch deals and imply they might be offering something to Doki down the line
>only people claiming she's at fault are the stooges of an already known black company
I'm going to believe the multitude of individuals rather than the word of genuinely terrible people.

>>69507259
?

>>69507230
What THE FUCK are you trying to say? Holy shit, this is so sad. I'm not even laughing at you anymore, Selen has completely broken your brain.

>>69507268
I don't think she wants to do anything to them. The best course of action is to ignore this whole mess and just ride the wave Niji created for her with all their PR negligences.
Her subs keep increasing, her views are exploding, people are with her to death. I think trying to sue Nijisanji would be petty considering she's already won.

>>69507268
No theyre not invincible legally
She has cases she can win but in those identified she cant make them pay up and even if they do it isnt worth the money and effort put in

That is not the same as nijisanji being 'legally invincible'. Their fuckup is painfully obvious and theyre getting dunked on because anyone who isnt 39IQ can see it

>>69507230
I only care about evidence that supports my narrative and everybody else can fuck off

>>69503383
You know why women make about 80% of retarded religious sects? Because they don't give a shit about facts and morality. All they care about is charisma.
You know why for your arguments in shitstorm on /vt/ with them all you get is ad personam insulting you directly? Because it works on women. If you look bad, then your argument is bad and you lose. Your logic doesn't matter
Vox and other fujobaits will go on as if nothing happened

>>69507394
holy based

>>69503383
Vox's audience doesnt care, and if anything they'll find him even sexier now.
Elira though might be in trouble

Who do you think will chimp out first? Elira or Millie?

>>69507377
>She has cases she can win but in those identified she cant make them pay up and even if they do it isnt worth the money and effort put in
Even for the pitiful $20k settlement he said MAYBE, there isn't a guarantee she could sue at all.

>>69507346
I am saying you act like a mentally ill mob that has blinders on and basically what >>69507394 says.

>>69507472
So, no proof, got it. This is so sad.

>>69507456
Maybe she can win is not the same as 'legally invincible'

Invincible is not the same as not being worth the effort

>>69507300
It is just a post hoc rationalization of your feelings.

>>69506406
She actually said something about Pekora and Korone, but that was more neutral compared to what she said against Roboco.

>>69507472
You'd probably be more useful to your side if you finished yourself, you know? What an embarrassment of a post.

>>69507406
>You know why for your arguments in shitstorm on /vt/ with them all you get is ad personam insulting you directly? Because it works on women. If you look bad, then your argument is bad and you lose. Your logic doesn't matter
But enough about esl dokisimps.

>>69507492
>This is so sad
Your family situation still sadder sis.

>People arguing about receipts being public or not
Doki is right because if this goes to a real courtroom the documents are all made public

>>69507406
A scary amount of the posts made during this entire controversy are coming from barren wombs hurtling into their 40s

>>69507510
And also if she does win the pitiful 20k reward, niji basically dumped money to lose more face.
Niji has no reason to try and fight doki in canada either.

Doki literally has to do nothing and 39 IQ nijisisters get shit on either way

>>69507607
Makes me wish Nijisanji would try to sue, so all this get revealed, but not even they are that retarded.

>>69503470
My dude Elira's last stream had people spending their 29 month membership super to shit on her.

>>69507612
Even scarier is that the other side is mentally unstable incels that are out for blood. It is very ironic how both sides have exactly the same mentality and would be really compatible with each other but instead of engaging in hatesex they just defend their favorite anime girl/boy avatar that isn't real and is just an act. Oh well...

>>69505353
>Nijisanji decides to stop escalating
>Doki doesn’t have to reveal anything they haven’t mentioned before clamming up
It’s a sword hanging over Anycolor’s head to make them keep their mouths shut, which only failed before because apparently the EN branch didn’t realize that you’re supposed to avoid self-incrimination.

>>69507080
Nijicucks will NEVER recover from losing to this

>>69503470
>requires 1 month sub/member to interact
>inb4 her longtime supporters actually hate her now and have access

>>69507586
Proof?

>>69503584
Except they really did harass doki. On stream. As a message from Nijisanji EN.

>>69507837
This would be very funny. I hope she goes back to stream soon. People with memberships were shitting on her during the black box stream.

>>69503383
"Nijisisters" are really 90% Kindred. They're even willing to sacrifice Elira if it meant maybe (MAYBE) saving Vox. And since the only thing Kindred can do is spam websites, then they can and will spam his chat. Elira is fucked, though. Even if Kindred do the same for her first stream to try to hide their bias, it won't last. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there's a polarization in the group with one side believing a rrat claiming it's entirely Elira's fault Vox had to go through this. Vox will maintain his place in Chinese fujo hell while Elira's gonna have to 4D chess her way out. Considering Vox's disdain for his fanbase, I'd say they're both equally punished.

>>69507725
I will never let you touch my big meaty penis. Die alone, femcel.

>>69507912
Let me help you to understand how the NDF operates.

>>69503889
At this point vox just serves as a containment channel to keep the other livers away from ex-beliebers

>>69503584
>reveal the receipts
>immediately get PIPPA'd
>???
>15%
God, Nijishitters are retarded.

>>69507912
>>69507972
>Elira forced Dookie to live react to an unrelated stream instead of putting out a statement later

>>69507958
You can tell with how far down their throat nijisanji's cock is.

On normie internet the most voracious niji defenders all the way back to zaion i know of are kindred without fail.

do you think a single thing Vox said in the black stream was true? or was it all the words of a lying pedo to paint Selen as a scumbag?

>>69504002
Selen didn't say it herself so she really has nothing to prove. On the contrary, Niji has to prove that there ISN'T any harassment going on because they themselves self reported along with liver friends self reporting

>>69508003
You can't make this shit up.

>>69508003
>Elira scheduled and put out a stream involving a ex-member to overlap said ex-member's unrelated stream instead of just letting Riku put out a statement later
Yeah, she did do that.

>>69507983
PIPA won't help her because Niji can just ignore the order to appear, and Canada's not going to force them to appear over something that can't get more than $100k CAD in fines at the absolute best.

>>69508003
>an unrelated stream
>an unrelated stream
>an unrelated stream
>an unrelated stream
>an unrelated stream

>get harassed at work for years
>try to an hero
>employer fires you publicly without notice
>employer self-reports in their notice
>confirm their self-report as accurate
>they then post a clearly petty statement on their official website
>employer then airs a live hit piece aimed directly at your first stream
>they self-report even harder and confirm who the harassers are
>their stream also contains hints at other highly illegal practices the harassers may be guilty of
>confirm their self-report again and try to move on
>they make ANOTHER public statement defaming you while panicking over breaking international labor laws
>move on and try to stream normally while possibly preparing legal action behind the scenes
>"BUT DOKI IS IN THE WRONG GUYS, SHE STARTED IT AND DID SO MUCH SHIT TO TARNISH NIJI'S REP BROS IT WAS ALL HER"
I think niji sisters might be the most pathetic people alive currently

>>69508046
They keep holding that 15 minute stream as some kind of win when it directly led to vox, elira and that third guy getting shafted hard in all metrics

>>69508046
But she did do something. she live reacted to it even though it wasn't necessary and she could've posted a statement later.

>>69508021
Who would believe him when he went as far as pretending he'd ever quit, no one would buy that for a second

>>69508130
>third guy
Ikesisters...not like this....

>>69507230
Ever since tits or gtfo was set in stone

>>69508132
I honestly don't know what you are trying to say.

>>69508021
>do you think a single thing Vox said in the black stream was true?
Assuming he was in any way, shape or form a remotely honest person to begin with. No, I don't think that he was honest.
Which is good, because if he was being honest he is without a doubt the single biggest retard on the internet what has no known mental diagnosis.

>>69508130
>Crinkle a bottle
>Lose thousands of subs
This shit would've never happened to Ike 2.

>>69508179
Tits or gtfo is not set in stone, because you fucking retards keep responding to women

>>69508132
>heh dokibird reacted when we were being retarded
>take that dokisimps

Then promptly loses 400k subscribers across the board

>>69503383
>Elira
Very very slowly and carefully.

>Vox
Do a Hardcore Ironman playthrough on Runescape with other player chat muted.

>That other guy
What was his name again?

>>69508219
Dramabird gonna drama. The reaction wasn't necessary.

>>69507725
The Internet was a mistake. Back then, incels were actually forced to marry women, and femcels were forced to marry men.

I still don't get what people are mad at Elira for

>>69508003
This post is too retarded to be made by a human, like HOLY FUCK

>>69507972
Niji
Dick
Fondler
The name itself is pretty self explanatory

>>69508320
The lack of empathy and braincells in this post is astounding.

>>69508132
Anon, I'd like you to start streaming, and when you start streaming, me and 2 other anons are going to go live over you and begin airing your medical history live on air. Your job is to not react to it at all, ignoring the entire thing. You know it's going to happen because we announce it before you start streaming, so you can't even claim you don't know what stream your chat will be talking about.

>>69508132
>Doki reacted to the stream that was harassing her
Yes? Are you retarded?

>>69508132
>feigning ignorance about Doki "not needing to respond to it" when it would've flooded her chat
>even though Elira and Vox won't launch their own streams right now for similar reasons
They should just not react to it desu

>>69508320
I can taste the tears from this

The three nijiniggers didnt have to kill themselves either but they did, the fuckin 39 iq retards

>>69507703
dude is BASED

>>69508124
Good summary anon

>>69508218
I think the bigger problem is that this place is a hugbox.

>>69503600
>Vox has a literal legion of menhera orbiters
he used to but even most of them hate him after a few yabs and stupid statements

Is it reasonable to assume mentioning Millie, Enna and herself as being part of the documents in the statement didn't necessarily mean that they were the harassers/bullies, but that being fellow Canadians simply means they would be Niji's representatives in a Canadian court?

>>69508124
It is clear you are a NEET or a kid who hasn't worked in any company. And you probably have zero experience with women if you think Doki is an innocent angel that didn't do anything wrong.

>>69507766
>Selen: okay Nijisanji I really don't want to go public with any of this so let's just peacefully settle it in priv--
>Nijisanji: HEY EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD SELEN IS ACCUSING US OF DOING ALL THIS TERRIBLE SHIT JUST LOOK AT IT WOW OH BY THE WAY ELIRA, ENNA, MILLIE, AND VOX ARE IMPLICATED SPECIFICALLY
>Selen: !??!?!
This will go down as the biggest self-own in vtubing history. Nothing can ever top it.

Say what you want, I still want to rape Elira in the managment office.

>>69508461
Show the sisters this meme

>>69508521
Fair point but even if they're diminished, he has significant cult members.

>>69508361
It's 4D chess. Now she can't sue them for damages.

>>69508524
No, she has no intention of suing them

>>69508041
yeah the liver bullying allegations started with niji self outing
want answers? ask the one that raised the questions

>>69508543
It's still February. The KWABOTY race is still very hot.

>>69508524
No, that's fucking retarded. Nijisanji clearly stated Selen reported staff for harrassment, like, that's the only reason why anyone's name would show up in the document.

>>69508589
Meant for: >>69508461

>>69508326
And it is both Doki and Niji that prey on loneliness of incels and femcels to get their money and keep them dysfunctional.

>>69508524
Who knows, though we do know Vox was mentioned because of the favoritism context, so the document does cover past incidents and livers relevant to them

>>69508589
>It's 4D chess. Now she can't sue them for damages.
elaborate ?

>>69508524
Leaf elf says they wouldnt even have to appear if niji is the one being sued. Hell doxxing isnt actually going to happen as theres precedence to hide identities from previpus cases involving internet content creators

But do note that individual livers being sued has been outed as a possibility so yeah that was sort of a soft confirmation

>>69508132
Yes the safest way to go about it is to say that you have to end stream early and talk to tour lawyer about it
Except if you were initially expecting that the issue would've been progressing into a settlement and it goes terribly awry with your ex coworkers leading the charge against you and your character, any normal person (much more someone who's emotionally exhausted after 2 attempts) would not be able to think as rationally as you would expect

Are people forgetting that there have been streamers who literally raped people and then went on like nothing happened by just ignoring it and moderating chat? It's so fucking easy to just move past shit if you're a content creator

>>69508527
>the girl who got bullied into attempted suicide? NOT INNOCENT
>Elira who helped bully her into suicide? TOTALLY INNOCENT
kek. Why is the NDF so fucking stupid?

>>69508328
if they were intelligent they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>>69508527
try to bring up some valid arguments instead of peepee poopooing
I'm pretty sure all the straws fron the NDF document has been rebutted by lawyer dude

>>69508671
The whole industry of vtubbing is literally geared towards that, and before them, Idols were the main culprits making profit of ronery otaku.

>>69508524
Involving millie and enna just makes Nijis case harder for their lawyers when they have to explain the lore behind their yabs and passive aggressive remarks as well as their members only shittakes

>>69508543
the self report that there's liver bullying within, and the doxxing of alleged bullies, all in one month LMAOOOOOOO

>>69508715
But how many of those streamers went live and outed themselves? If you're going to commit a crime you have to be smarter than that.

>>69508527
All publicly available information points towards NijiEN management being the problem here

>>69503469
This is the correct answer. It always is.n

>>69508527
I dont work in a company that shits the bed when it comes to terminations and ruins its reputation by being utterly retarded

Also women are irrelevant here. Niji is just that fucking stupid when it comes to optics

Sisters, let me help you, because you are obviously too retarded to come up with a good strategy:
>Selen believed that she was being harassed, but it was probably just due to management being non-existent. It was just a misunderstanding.
>Doki will be fine, everyone wishes her the best and they have probably already talked thing out in private.
>Riku is cleaning up the house, firing the incompetent managers and making sure that the remaining livers are taken care of.
>That's why Rosemi is still missing, she didn't feel well and everyone is supporting her. If she wants to graduate, that's totally fine! Her friend almost died, it's normal feeling bad about it.
>Elira and Vox were forced by management to do that awful stream. Vox is not the kind of person to throw a friend under the bus, management made him do it.
>Let's keep supporting the livers!

>>69508717
This type of "always believe the victim" thinking is dangerous. She's a BPD schizo and BPD schizos try to sudoku over pretty much any dumb shit. She has to prove she faced actual bullying and harassment and she is being reluctant in doing so.

>>69503383
Ike literally already did that and he was fine. Vox I can also see just going on business as usual, nijisisters won't leave and mods will just ban anyone trying to shit on him on chat.

Elira though, a big part of her fanbase are the people who are the most pissed off at what happened, so yeah unless she comes out with a good explanation she's done for.

>>69508895
>women are irrelevant here
Proving the point that you have no experience with women cause you can't even comprehend how relevant they are.

>>69508974
Literally negligible

>>69508478
>/vt/
>A HUGBOX
TITS OR GTFO

>>69508945
I read this and feel better about the situation

>>69508692
Leaf Elf also said that it would be difficult to get Elira and co. to court separately, since they could be considered agents acting on Niji's behalf. You could still tell them to show up if Niji got sued, but it might go nowhere fast.

>>69508944
She doesn't have to prove jack shit, Nini levied those allegations against THEMSELVES, so now Niji has to prove it isn't true

>>69508527
>One side occasionally over exaggerates a situation and occasionally loses her temper and threatens to quite before walking it back.
>The other side releases not one but two of the worst PR statements ever released, throws (previously) unrelated employees under the bus and gets into potential legal trouble every time the open their dumb fucking mouth.
Hmm yes these are basically the same. I am very intelligent.

>>69508945
Now they will NOT do what you tell them because 4ch le bad. Take that incel

>>69508945
What about Ike...?

>>69508944
>"always believe the victim"
>BPD schizo
There they go again, even though she's either clearly taking her meds or functional enough to navigate this unlike Niji, while also ignoring the history of bleeding talent at NijiEN

>>69508524
let's go by process of elimination
2023 collabs+interactions+favortism= vox and the third guy
2023 collabs+interactions=millie
only 2023 all girls collab+ NO interactions= Enna and Elira

let's see, if a person was bullied, would they want to interact with bullies? who are the ones she actively avoided? who are the ones most likely the bully among the livers?

>>69509081
Whomest???

>>69509041
>She doesn't have to prove jack shit
To you yes. People who aren't easily manipulated and are more level headed want to have an example of what the bullying was before they try to burn a company down.

>>69508715
We just had a streamer who couldn't get away from the fact that he was a rapist pedophile kill himself last week, anon

>>69509041
Disingenuous bulshit from Dokicucks

>>69509081
>crinkles water bottle
Uh, hi, I'm Ike.
>takes a sip

>>69509081
Who?

>>69503383
There's only one way to make a return. And that's to come back, ignore the inevitable flaming in chat, keep streaming for a while while banning people, and eventually people will stop caring.

>>69509094
>clearly taking her meds or functional enough to navigate this
>tries to kill herself

>>69509142
>an example of what the bullying was
Nina.jpg

>>69509142
we don't wait for such convenient things like that around here

>>69509031
Elira literally has nothing to worry about unless she is directly involved and mentioned in harassment

>>69509142
>>69509158
Again, the burden of proof falls to Niji because they are the accusers

>>69509005
I only have moobs. Also you should be ashamed that women have less of a hugbox than you.

>>69509142
>an example of what the bullying was
What, the black frame stream wasn't enough for you?

>>69508945
>We volunteered to do this stream
>These are our personal opinions on the matter
Whæt do you mean, hæuh?

>>69509142
>an example of what the bullying was before they try to burn a company down
Hmmm well have you tried look at the fact that they released a statement full of obviously false claims, most of which accused her of being a liar and trying to Doxx(lol) other employees, and also full of potential legal violations at the same time she was trying to do a gaming stream as harassment? Because that seems like a pretty solid piece of evidence to me!!

>>69508944
I mean, Elira always called her a nuisance, Millie called her a stupid bitch, Enna called her a manipulative snake

>selen is problematic because she is a WOMAN
>millie elira and enna are also women
>nijisisters are also (presumably) women

What 39IQ does to a nijisister

>>69509283
Mogogo, please, they didn't have any other choice...

>>69508947
>>69509081
>>69509162
>*crinkles platic bottle*
He used an immunity idol to avoid geting voted out of the show

>>69508527
I hope you retards never leave, it's like a constant stream of the dumbest shit for people to dunk on. At this point I half think it's a false-flag, like a maybe it's all fellow anons pretending to be NDF so we don't forget about the outrage.

I don't think Elira was part of the bullying at all, her mistake was offering to use her position as the public figurehead of the EN branch to host the black stream in her channel. If anything she should hope either Doki or niji pushes it to court since then the actual allegations of who bullied Selen would come out

>>69509324
nijisisters are all pooners you'll see it scrolling through twitter

>>69509301
>have you tried look at the fact that they released a statement full of obviously false claims, most of which accused her of being a liar
You guys would die of a heart attack if someone would put you in a locker or flushed your head in a toilet.

>>69509059
Reminder that until 2023, Selen was one of the strongest bootlickers in the company, and most of 2023 had Dragoons wishing for her graduation announcement after seeing her take too many bumps from management.
Don't let NDF spamming their unproven/undiagnosed BPD narrative distract you from the fact that Selen willfully built this branch up and was still fighting to make NijiEN look good up to the very last piece of content she ever produced as Selen. Regardless of your thoughts on whether it should've been privated or not, Last Cup Of Coffee is a Niji Unity MV, and it could've fostered good publicity for the company due to Selen's reach.

>>69509142
Unsubbing and shitting on nijisanji is hardly burning the company down. So dramatic!

You dont even need to believe in doki and just look at what niji is doing to absolutely clown on them

>>69509361
Golden 20 Veto

>>69509324
Dookies are also women because they're former nijisisters.

>>69509158
Yes, them shooting first was a mistake. They could have either continued negotiations (probably the smart thing to do here!) or waited for her to shoot first(Cruel but also smarter, at least, since it would have been on her to prove that she was being harassed), they didn't and thus told on themselves. Because you people keep ignoring this Doki's preferred resolution to this was too keep talking! And that fucking termination notice backs that claim up.

>>69509361
>>69509407
Vtuber reality show where someone gets voted out and graduated once a month when?

>>69509094
Not to mention one of the sister docs self-reported about being mentally ill themselves, meaning they are disqualified from being trustworthy under their own rules.

>>69509390
>Regardless of your thoughts on whether it should've been privated or not, Last Cup Of Coffee is a Niji Unity MV
This is a good point. Calling Selen a toxic menhera doesn't work here because she literally wanted to celebrate the unity of nijifamily.

Anons, stop wasting your time with sisters. They're crabs in buckets who live for drama and will do everything in their power to keep fanning the flames and encouraging bad moves. All the individuals directly involved in these incidents will agree to settlements and move on with their lives. It's only the sisters who are encouraging a lawsuit or the dissemination of private conversations because they need to see others suffer to distract them from their own misery.

>>69509368
>gets more brand deals than the literal highest subbed members
>irl friends get hired as soon as she gets in
Sure anon keep telling yourself shes incapable of doing anything to undemine others for her own benefit

>>69509398
I salute you for being one of the sane ones.

>>69509509
Do you think this thread was made by a sister?

>>69509509
The public deserves to know what happened and if Dookie is telling the truth or not.

>>69503469
Correction: unicorn masses have a sjort memory. While Vox might be able to get by, I (a person who never watched NijiEN) sincerely doubt thaf El Wiwa has that many truly dedicated fans.
And besides, imagine having to rely on essentially Oblivion Adoring Fan(s) for your bills + having to shoulder the guilt from screwing over a colleague OR the malding from being caught in the act without release. This will drive anyone into a dark place.
I hope she won't attempt an hero. Like, she can go fuck herself if she really done the things we rratted about, but having her go to the shadow realm is too much, if only from the fact that dead people cannot suffer and repent.

>>69509458
>she has bpd don't trust her
>i myself have a mental disability so I would know
Topkek

>>69509324
>>69509509
>The NDF defense email that got sent to LM by a longtime viewer was basically "Women Lie (source: I am a woman), therefore Doki Bad."
I don't think I'll ever get over this as long as I live. I'll be on my deathbed, and my doctors will ask why I'm chuckling, and my old senile ass will say "they said women lie because they're a woman; isn't that hilarious", then pass off into the void.

>>69509551
No they do not
>dookie
>i have a right to know

Underageb&

>>69508944
NDFs are the only ones bringing up BPD, it was so funny how lawyer guy especially noted how bringing up mental health is stupid enough to discredit your whole NDF list LMAOOOOOOO

>>69509551
We'll know soon enough; Doki said here >>69506307 they'll be made public

>>69509551
>The public deserves to know what happened
No?

>>69509363
But enough about doki defense force.

>>69509158
Not sure if you've heard of the phrase "putting words in another person's mouth" before. You probably never finished highschool so, just write that down as homework for you to catch up with the rest of us.

>>69509551
I'm John Public and I can wait til she gets her legal issues settled, actually :D

>>69509458
>>69509583
They went for the pussy: "BPD people are at risk of self-harm" angle instead, not that. I'm just calling her a schizo paranoid lawyer because you don't need any filters anonymously.

>>69509628
>We'll know soon enough; Doki said here
>;
Are... are you using chatgpt to fix your ESL?

>>69509669
*paranoid liar

>>69509605
Nijisister singlehandedly ruined women
LMAO you heard the 39IQ retard

Selen is a woman and women bad therefore millie elira and enna cant be trusted because more women = worse

>>69509628
This will only happen when a lawsuit actually gets called, which definitely would run doki to the ground financially, also probably risking another attempt which no one really wants
A settlement would be the most realistic way to go about this with her safety as the biggest priority, no matter how anticlimactic it will be for everyone else not in the know

>>69509390
Sisters have literally no counter for this argument, so they will ignore it.

>>69509344
wait wasn't there a third guy? lmao

>>69509710
That is technically an appropriate use of a semicolon (connecting two sentences as a cohesive thought), although I personally would've used a colon.

>>69509769
It's so unity that she even tried to include past livers that didn't want to be there and threw a fit when management told her it'd have to be edited out

>>69509516
Elira 9 pomu 2
And after all that extra promo and JP pandering, she still sells less than pomu lmao

>>69509855
I'm aware, but it's the kind of stuff that chatgtp likes to add and the sisters are too ESL to suddenly start using semicolons

>ETL trying to accuse others of ESL
lmao

>>69508945
>Vox is not the kind of person to throw a friend under the bus, management made him do it.
My suspension of belief cannot stretch that far

>>69509551
burden of proof look it up

>>69503383
might as well hoping for Hitler to come back alive.

>>69509710
they don't teach zoomers semicolons in school anymore?

Ignore the drama baiters and up the number of mods in chat. Also Elira please sleep with me.

>>69509891
Proof next thread?

>>69509605
I hope people realize how many of the retarded schizo antis on this board are actually women who hate women.

>>69509956
Why would you want herpes

>>69509770
>The water guy doesn't have his own puppet

>>69509935
delulu is not the solulu lmao

>>69509951
I had to retake a basic-level english course on my second college run a few years back career change, long story, and the Early College high schoolers that were also in that class admitted they'd basically never seen a semicolon actually used.
It was a bit surreal, but yeah.

>>69510020
But when i first got on 4chan, everyone told me that theres no such thing as women on the internet

>>69509956
She's got the entire management teams of both branches to get through, first.

I consider you all friends (except Elira) and want you to know I appreciate that there's still people around to shitpost with for hours on end

>>69508945
Honestly, I can see an explanation where Elira isn't the big evil and instead were shown a poorly translated excerpt of the fucking "Doki manifesto" (actually just her depression diary explaining why she wanted to quit) and it was accompanied with a message from management saying "Selen is gonna dox you look she said this shit, go release a video shitting on her before she can dox you". Then they do the giga-cringe stream, Doki sets the record straight, now if any of them were not spineless evil backstabbing snakes they would be feeling pretty guilty about what they've done.

I'm not gonna let Ike off easy, he did have the smallest part praying to the corporate office water bottle gods but he still said shit about being betrayed by a friend and all which is like outright lies according to Doki's tweet. Ike went right back to streaming to his fujo hugbox, Vox seemed happy enough jumping into Kyo's stream. So maybe the two guys are just massive cunts that hate all the women and don't care, at this point I could still be convinced Elira isn't some evil bitch queen and made a mistake depending on what we hear from her next.

>>69509605
>>69509738
When is Women 2 coming out? Women 1 has too many bugs and glitches.

>>69510128
We're all the little girl, though.
Both things are true.

>>69510121
That's sad to see. Even if it's but used a lot nowadays, they'll still see it in order writing and should be able to appreciate the nuances.

>>69509935
>we 3 volunteered to do this
>these are our personal opinions on the matter
>in my opinion, it wasn't harassment
>graduating was always an option honey

>>69510221
>at this point I could still be convinced Elira isn't some evil bitch queen and made a mistake depending on what we hear from her next.
I mean, I can believe that. Still, she made the choice of making an stream to harass a friend who tried to kill herself not that long ago. That's not just a "whoopsy, management tricked me, gomen gomen".

>Selen, we were very frightened that you were going to doxx us
>THE DOORS THERE ANYTIME, SWEETHEART. HATE TO SEE YOU GO, BUT I LOVE WATCHING YOU LEAVE
>I feel betrayed...

>>69509935
I mean, just because someone is naturally a piece of shit, does not necessarily mean his shitty actions in one situation were directly a result of that aspect of his character, if there were external factors
That's why many countries don't consider entrapment a valid strategy for law enforcement

>>69508628
>tfw Vince migt not be KWABOTY after all

>>69503630
>froot got into a lot of shit
>is streaming to almost 4k ppl
damn, if only my shit was that popular

>>69503383
>If they ever tried to start streaming again and pretend like nothing ever happened I'm 100% sure they'd immediately crumble
Just because you believe something doesn't make it true. I'm sure they would do fine, even if many people hated their guts. If Anycolor hired actual tardwranglers to keep them in line things might even go better for them than previously.

>>69510019
Proof this thread. The Nijisanji EN store allows sorting by Best Selling:
https://nijisanji-store.com/collections/lazulight-2nd-anniversary/?sort_by=best-selling

>>69511229
Ah dang, so she did. Wonder if Elira got more than 2% as well

>>69503789
How fucking dumb are you?

Amberbird should show her receipts

So how exactly was Selen bullied again? I don't think I have seen any specific example of how she got bullied yet. She just asked everyone to listen and believe her.

>>69503889
They also claimed that selen had the recording because she was being parasocial with vox kek. They're just seething with jealousy.

>>69512248
Bullied by management by being told to wait for perms check, and bullied by livers asking her if she needed any help after her cover got privated.

>>69512248
>vox publicly states he has been talking to selen about it and even pledged that he would grad with her
>selen gets deleted
>vox stays on the edge of the cliff going back on his word
>doubles down and throws shade
>if the bullying is too much for you graduation is always a choice honey
>it's not harassment in my opinion
>we were scared of getting doxxed
>also i have reviewed this entire document that has all her personal information too

>>69511654
>2% was only ever for the workers, not the Queen Bee

could you imagine the fucking shitstorm if that ever came out?