/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She's had over 100 Novelites on stream

>>69415830
It means she read /here/ how *not* collabing with certain people instantly makes people schizo the fuck out and screech about how she haaaaatesss her senpais.
She has a limited pool of social energy and doesn't want to be forced into mammoth collabs just to show she's a team player.

>respect my collab choices
She never said that. It's an ESL misinterpretation of what she said.

>>69415830
she's a fucking retard that stunted her growth for no apparent reason.
https://trailers.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/25ecf883-c9c3-4857-aa65-81faf3f3b904

it always meant she was going to collab very little and only with a select few, because she's an autistic loner
it was clear as day from the second she said it, you fucking retard

>>69416001
She should have clarified then. people thought she was going to bring in her twitch friends to the sanctum of hololive.

>>69416091
>>69416094

>>69416094
Why would she need to clarify a statement she never made?

>>69416107
it was clear as fuck if you actually watched the debut stream instead of threadreading and being a fucking mouthbreather
not her fault dramaniggers are willfully retarded and were salivating at the thought Advent would be the gen to open the door to stars collabs

>>69415830
she thought Omega was still around

>>69415830
she got tardwrangled by management

>>69416151
>expecting catalogfags to watch stream

>>69416151
>not her fault
No it is. She really didn't need to end her debut stream with "Regarding collabs". She shot herself in the foot with that and it's why she's the lowest in subs since the debuts.

She meant she's going to keep collabing with her 2view friends in projects but not live on stream.

>>69416051
>muh growth

She is making a fortune in superchats and doesn't give a fuck about your numbermonkey zoo poop flinging.

>>69415830
Glad (you) asked, because I still have to copypaste

>>69416255
nah, that's her content and the fact she took a break like a week after debut
and she's happy like this, doing weird shit for a very limited audience

>>69415830
Does she even collab outside advent at all

>>69416381
Use was on stream with Mori today and did a collab with Haachama last week

The "she noticed the bad reception and changed her tune" narrative is only reasonable on the surface but actually doesn't make much sense. It seems pretty fucking obvious that collabing with men would get you backlash, you don't need to see it happen to you in real time to realize that. Indeed, the fact that she warned people in the first place already proves she would be aware of that backlash. No, you would only make this choice if you're okay with that backlash, don't want those fans in the first place, feel like rebelling or are just woman-brained. Which could be the case here but we haven't seen evidence yet.
The last possibility is that she truly never intended to collab with men and this ominous warning really was just a giant misunderstanding over something else. People here have mentioned that it simply meant not collabing much. I don't remember her exact phrasing, but it didn't seem to me at all to be what she was trying to say, Why would you even phrase it like that if you're just saying you won't collab much? Wut? Regardless, this being a misunderstanding and her never intending to collab with males is a definite possibility.

Having said all that, I will never trust her though, not because of that ominous warning but because she does GFE and 100% of GFEchuubas have been proven beyond doubt to be sadistic grifters who get off on cucking losers. Not to mention the roommate knowledge (which normally I don't care about but here it just kinda proves the case). If she stays "clean" it merely proves that she's a bit better at keeping up the mask than the average woman brain who literally can't resist doing cuckold yabs for a temporary dopamine rush. But remember, Rushia kept that mask up for years. Every chuuba who is willing to do GFE is a manipulative grifter, every single one.

That doesn't mean I anti her (actually I think she's pretty funny in collabs), I just will never watch her.

That "family trip" was a suspension so she changed her tune.

>>69416447
I'm glad for you, or sorry that happened.

>>69416447
The warning is only ominous if you’re a retarded dramafag looking for something to freak out about. It was fairly obvious that she didn’t want to be bugged about not doing too many collabs.

>>69415830
She never said that, but brown skinned ESLs misinterpreted it and have been spreading their lie ever since.

>makes zero controversial collab choices
That is exactly what she wanted to convey, she wanted people to not pester her to collab with X and Y, because she doesn't want to. You have to be extremely low IQ to not realize it at this point.

>>69416310
yea I forgot the exact wording. She's just genuinely autistic. I hope she's making friends!

>>69416310
>the more likely they have reached friend status
God that was such an uncomfortable moment.

>>69416512
Only niji does that sister, she had a commitment from before holo thay couldn't be ditched because Asian family shit and she has the receipts in the form of a fucking vlog stream, now go kill yourself subhuman.

>>69416005
>>69416604
>>69416672
>trying to rewrite history
Pretty cringe redditchama

She rused me. I thought so badly of her at debut.
How i'm a fan and i'll protecc her as best as I can.

>>69416447
Sorry sis but Shiorin will never cuck her fans and get involved with men.

>>69416703
1/10 I gave you a pity reply

>>69416323
>for a very limited audience
You're also retarded if you think 4-6k ccv is a "very limited audience". She's not Gura, but she doesn't need to be. She's still immensely successful and has more fans than almost every vtuber outside Hololive could never even dream of.

Unicucks are paranoid schizoids
Nothing new under the sun

>>69416151
Hey I wouldn't have closed the stream if she didn't mention Scramouche

>>69416703
>>69416310
This is just way too shameful. I think you should end your life, only way to redeem yourself.

>>69415830
>What's her deal?
Bad communication.

>>69416447
Not your personal blog, post tits

>>69416703
See >>69416310
She never said "respect my collab choices" you absolute fucking retard

The discord defense force has shown up
Lmao

>>69416051

Shiori is ranked 12th in terms of super chats, meanwhile bijou is 22nd.

Shiori may be the runt of advent, but she's bringing it in where it counts; MONEY.

>>69416755
t. BVTM after falseflagging as a unicorn

>>69416822
>reddit spacing cuck thinks SCs matter
Retard

>>69416804
t. giftcord member

>>69416310
having watched her for a while now, I now just see this as her trying to be chuuni mmysterious cool girl

>>69416447
>I will never trust her though
I want to trust her but I dug too deep. I want to be part of the SC club but only if the SC is only going to the streamer (and youtube/cover, I know), there can't be a 4th in that equation.

>>69416447
mucho texto

>>69415830
generally not interested in collab

>>69416874
>Brown subhuman doesn't understand money

Checks out

>>69416731
eh, it's unfair to compare her to oustiders
her being automatically more succesful than average is a given since she got into Hololive

>>69416310
She's almost literally expressing that she's only planning to collab with her friends. Considering she had spent time with advent, it's very obvious that she was referring to them, while implying that she might make new ones in the future. I generally don't think it can even be misinterpreted in the way brownoids want it to. You have to be actually, unironically retarded, or deliberately obtuse. Catalogniggers never watch streams, so it's pretty easy to gaslight them into believing whatever bullshit you want if you just spam it enough. But even then, it's always staggering to see how utterly fucking dumb this board can be.

>esl threadreader interpretation
Respect my choice to collab with PL male friends
>enlightned aspie-mindreader interpretation
Please respect the people I choose not to collab with. I am not uncomfortable with those people because i hate them or for anything wrong about them. I am uncomfortable with people because that is my default state of existence.

>>69415830
"Regarding collaborations (...), I will be collabing with friends and people who may be potential friends. Now, this is possibly quite rare, simply because I have to study people. I have to study characters to understand them. The more likely-- The more often you see them, the more likely they have reached friend status. But you will not really know unless I mention so. So please respect those around me, okay?"
Schizos took this as "she's totally gonna collab with males and her twitch friends".
But in reality, she said that collabs will be quite rare (they have been) as she needs to get familiar with new faces. She's more or less saying "don't be a filthy collab beggar, I take time to warm up to people"
She never mentioned groups, certain people, or "choices", those are all schizo delusions dreamed up on this board.

>tl;dr
collab begging niggers deserve the rope, shiori takes time to get to know people.

>>69415830
Jap corrected her behind the scenes

>>69415830
She should deal with me, in bed.

>>69417127
Her ccv is objectively insanely good regardless of the metric you use. Even flash streamers are considered hugely successful if they can reach and maintain anything above 4k on average. Calling that a "very limited" audience is a meme.

>>69417182
If he really did that she wouldn't have anything to do with Pending.

>>69416849
>if unicorns end up in the wrong, they are actually falseflaggers

If she was so good you wouldn't have to shill her by making the same threads deadcucks and crocucks make about how they improved! they're good now! they were never bad! You're not fooling anyone with your blacked NTR cuckqueen

>>69417182
>Jap corrected her behind the scenes
You realized that you just implied that Jap keked the novelites behind the scenes right?

>>69417390
Ok sister

>>69415830
Means you idiots read shit into it and shouldn't tell her which girls to collab with.
Some anons are so cucked they immediately jumped to Homos.

>>69417416
Management advising her not to do male colabs is a reasonable rrat.

>>69416822
>runt
Thats not how it work anon, ccv means nothing if you cant make money. From the companies pov, she is no runt.

>>69415830
openly working with pending is pretty spicy. she's lucky novelites are all cucks and likes it though so maybe she'll get away with stuff like that in the future anyway.

>>69417339
>doubling down
Just because you try to deflect doesn’t mean it wasn’t incredibly obvious where the “Respect My Collab Choices” meme first got posted. Unicorns had little, if anything, to do with it.

>>69415830
She’s autistic and can’t explain herself properly
That’s all

>>69417462
unless you're a newfag of course that's what you would expect when recognizing her voice

She saw the money and changed her mind.

>>69417536
Then you expected wrong, its that simple. You are legitimately mentally cucked. I know you may not like it but sorry anon, you are a cuck.

>>69417242
fine, i'll reword it as "limited audience for Hololive standards"
she has the worst (or bottom 3) CCV in HoloEN and the least subscribers, i'm not saying it makes her a worse streamer but it's just a fact

>>69417482
This she's doing way better than no name like Akirose or roboco

>>69417612
She's a grifter so this is the most likely scenario

>>69417612
The only thing that changed was that she kept Pending off-stream.

>>69417514
i am not even that original guy you were replying to, ok i guess if a group i like ever does something wrong i can just say
>uh actually x group was doing that while pretending to be b group

didn't she say she cut off her leech friends? why are they writing all her member content?

>>69415830
She meant that she was going to collab with friends and other people she felt close to because she's autistic.

>>69417732
Her member content, the writing prompts at least, is mostly written by AI though

>>69417416
Yes.
Jap just forbids it to be public because he cares about upholding idol culture, while NTR queen Shiori would love to tell everyone about it

>>69417265
Well she doesn't, if he didn't she would've already collabed with him and he'd be a regular like Nerissa's sisters

>>69416849
NOT A REAL UNICORN, IT WAS JUST FALSEFLAGGING
REAL UNICORNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED

Literal trannies and communists

>>69416094
First of all she didn't say it
Second of all,why should she "clarify" shit? All that would do is maintain this stupidity at the center of any talk about her. I'd much rather talk about her shenanigans, thank you very much

>>69417865
>Well she doesn't
Then why does she keep crediting him for a bunch of things?

notice how all these threads are only made about the worst holos? can't be a coincidence

>>69417834
>upholding idol culture
>Idols getting fucked by their managers being pretty common occurrence in the idol industry
Checks out.

>>69418109
you know, mori getting all the deals makes a lot more sense now

>>69415830
It was her special way of telling the schizos to fuck off. In retrospect it was pretty smart because it got a lot of bad actors to expose themselves. It even got Phase Connect to put their Filipino Discord Server in the time-out corner for a bit.

>>69417716
>i am not even that original guy you were replying to
Bullshit. If you weren’t that anon, you wouldn’t be running interference for those scumbags.

>>69418186
Schizos are the only ones left lmao, anyone with a brain left

>>69417885
Keep deflecting BrownVTM, surely this time you’ll convince people that you weren’t the one who pulled it out of your ass.

>>69415830
You STILL crying about this? It's been 6 months

>>69418186
i dont think you have any sort of understanding of shioris fanbase. you want to bitch about schizos and unicorns so much you lose track of reality

>>69418307
He’s been saying “two more weeks” for so long that Nerissa did a collab with Zentreya and Lia did a collab with the homo he was saying Shiori would collab with without anything from Shiori, he’s a bit desperate at this point.

>>69418425
>deflecting to nerissa
as expected of shioricucks lmao

>>69415830
Trying to filter the trash early

>>69418496
>stating facts is deflection
Two more weeks, right?

I know she used to do some GFE vids when she was moe. But where did the bbc cuck schizo posting come from?

Are these guys really shiori antis or just bored niji def force ppl. There's nothing really to her anti. She's been clean and yab free in hololive since her debut.

>>69418568
what facts? what if she collabed with zentreya? how does this absolve shiori in any way?

>>69418250
yes anon you are right everyone here is the same person, there are actually only 2 posters in this thread, you and me a supersamefagger with dozens of ip at the same time, do not take meds you are always right

>>69418672
Absolve her of what? Shiori hasn’t done any male collabs. Saying “not yet” ad nauseam isn’t going to change that.

>>69418033
Because they're collabing behind the scenes? Not like this is the first time any of the Holos have done a collab with a male creator like Kiara and Mazumaro (the Myth vs Ina guy) for her alter outfit but in those cases the guy is usually a pro artist and/or holo fan who did a one and done with the talent, if there's any future discussions between the two we're only aware of it when the project is revealed so it remains "professional". pending who's shiori's friend is gonna keep showing up no matter how much we protest. I just want to know if he's the one of the dude likers.

>>69418701
>seething about getting called out
Thanks for coming clean.

>>69415830
she still hasn't have a 1 on 1 collab with fwmc
I won't respect it

>>69418750
Bro I'm not going to trust someone who loves NTR and black guys. She could be the EN equivalent of Sora while she's in hololive and it won't make all that baggage go away

>>69415830
>"I'm gonna be my gen's GFE lightning rod, but I don't want to deal with the worst of the worst..."
>"I know! Shiori~~n, yuo are of genius!"
And then FWMC swept up her missing money.

>>69418783
It's completely disingenuous to act like he is just like any other off-stream male.
Him being gay also doesn't mean shit.

>>69418178
Would have made more sense a decade ago when she was hot as hell.

>>69418873
>fanfiction
FWMC would have been at the top regardless, Shiori punches above her weight when it comes to money.

"You guys are cucks. She's just been stringing (you) along and it's waiting for the right moment to start "The Cuckening" TM"
>Debut
>Halloween
>Thanksgiving
>Christmas
>New Year
>6 Month Anniversary
>Valentine's
YOU ARE HERE
>Her Birthday
>1 Year Anniversary
>Cycle starts again for 2025

>>69418933
>mori
>hot
>ever
Anon...

is it really that hard for some people here to say "oops we were actually wrong, sorry" ?

This is not very unlike the ame-loserbait and rushia-mafumafu situations. Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it

>>69418968
>Thin
>Cute
>Big tits
You can just say you're gay, anon.

>>69418985
You’re saying that as though those people were arguing in good faith. Check the archives for Shiori’s general, she was marked as the schizos’ dedicated target even before debut.

>>69418892
If he's gay then I don't care if he's in the same room as shiori while she streams.

Would've helped if shiori had her male behind the scene friends make new female themed aliases so we'd be discussing the script writer "pandora" or some shit.

>>69419019
>Thin
Never lose that sweet innocence Anon.

>>69419019
>Thin

>>69418966
Two more years?

do you think acting like a faggot will make more people like shiori?

>55 posters
>118 replies
/vt/ needs poster ids, every board needs them to get rid forever of samefags, also i wish shiori was slightly more unhinged to fit her model

who are you talking to

>>69416310
God I can't believe I trusted BVTM propaganda.

>>69419108
>>69419113
Yeah she used to be thinner but let herself go from alcoholism.

>they're counting their chickens when it's not even been a year yet
Oh my sweet holofags. When will you learn? Are you even capable of learning?

>>69419441
how long did it take mori and Kronii again?

>>69416005
I think the way she herself worded it was ESL. All this could've been avoided if she'd simply said "I won't really collab regularly, please respect that"

>>69416512
Nah this is debunked, she posted cruise ship videos and photo of her landing in NYC.

for the surprise of no one, it is not even a fan of the company

>>69415830
She saw the backlash

>>69419491
Her whole debut was desperately trying to sound eloquent, the autistic bookworm girl is her gimmick, she just isn't good at it.

>>69419596
it could've been cute but her voice is insufferable and divorced from any semblance of cuteness

>>69415830
She was addressing beggers, she saw them trying to force homos on her pre debut.

>>69415830
Most likely legitimately wanted to collab with Magni and/or Vesper but they graduated lmao.

>>69419879
Grifters stick together, hopefully she follows them out of hololive

>>69419842
why did she flirt with flayon on twitter then

>>69419842
>She was addressing beggers, she saw them trying to force homos on her pre debut.
She voluntarily followed the homos on twitter pre-debut. And don't say it was forced because that has never been a requirement.

>>69415830
She only wants to be friends with the girls before collabing with them. She probably doesn't want an awkward collab where she's forced to interact with someone she barely knows.

She seems to be slightly socially inept from what I've noticed of how she interacted with IRyS in the sports fest during the cavalry game. That shit made me cringe, IRyS carried that convo hard and tried to make it not awkward but the cringe still oozes out.

>>69418642
In her microscope stream, she explains that parasites after growing up lost their colors and become black. She then said that "once you go black you never go back". Schizos have been crying about it ever since.

>>69420019
Proud of her for making friends with Haachama. Enough to collab.

>>69420021
I thought all her yabs were from the roommate era wtf, no wonder she has so many haters

>>69419472
To be fair they didn't have a model for what would happen if they collab with EN Stars. The JP stars collabs never caused such drama.

>>69420076
>yabs
>whatever sisters and brownoids can make mountains out of are now yabs

>>69420021
How come Calli could say "based bbc enjoyer" and get away with it?

>>69420021
She is a pretty much self confessed fujo and shipper. Saying stuff like that should not surprise anyone.

>>69420080
>what would happen if they collab with EN Stars
It wasn't even about the collabs though, it was about them overreacting to a vocal minority and punishing their whole audience because of it. The JP girls weren't vindictive bitches about it

>>69419990
>a thank you is flirting
call me when she has a male collab like Lia did, phasekek.

>>69420204
Explain Ririka then.

>>69420204
>it was about them overreacting to a vocal minority
>The JP girls weren't vindictive bitches about it
The JP girls didn't receive as massive of a pushback about it either. Hell Calli didn't even though she collabed with Aruran 1 on 1.

>>69420251
I literally forgot about her, I think she's an exception to the rule. Bae is also an exception on the EN side, nobody hates her because she wasn't a bitch to her fans about homocollabs. The secret is not being a retard I guess

>>69420393
Was the homoEN push back that huge? I wasn't paying attention to it at the time because I actually tried giving them a chance

>>69420204
Kronii's main problem was trying to get ahead of the problem and saying she wouldn't interact much with them even though she in reality wanted to. It came across as a backstab. She should have been honest.

I have no idea why people unicorned for Calli though.

>>69415830
To give a short non antagonistic interpretation of what happened. She tried to stop people doing what happened to Ame and Gura to her with any other girl.
Non holo watchers, Antis, and tourists that hated GFE and Unicorns were already on /vt/ for nearly a year falseflagging took advantage of the situation. They dug up as much of the worst quotes from her PL and used it to stir the unicorns into a frenzy by making what she said come off in a way it supposed to.
They did the same shit with the rest of advent (and most of EN since 2022) but Shiori just had the juiciest ammunition and was the most GFE.

>>69420406
>nobody hates her
this is true if you do not count shitposters as people

>>69420406
Bae is mainly an exception because one like you said he wasnt a bitch about it, two she reveal at debut her kamioshi is Roberu. So at that point if you are gonna be a unicorn for her than its really on you.

>>69420450
It was actually massive because of the Dead by Daylight collab and when the homos posted their underwear on twitter as part of a batsu. Honestly it was funny, but it quickly turned into total gosling suicide bait.

>>69420548
>batsu
The batsu had nothing to do with the DbD collab tho IIRC

>>69420468
>calli
I doubt they were unicorning her, I think it was more about mori corrupting kronii into doing homocollabs after she promised her members she wouldn't, extremely dumb move overall

>>69420659
No, they were separate incidents, but vaguely related. If I remember the sequence of events properly:
>Homos pre-debut have some friendly interactions with Holos on twitter, nobody really cares
>Homos are collab banned/restricted to 1 hour streams, but are allowed to collab with JP stars
>Left 4 Dead collab where losers have to post their underwear on twitter
>Tempus loses and post their underwear, their senpai also post their underwear in solidarity
>Because the Holos follow the Homos, they all see what happened, many funny reactions during streams
>Kronii comments on Vesper's underwear with "Basic. JK."
>This is seen as extremely flirty by autists
>Her viewers and especially members get deeply concerned and in a menshi stream she says she'll keep her distance as to not upset them
>Homo collab ban lifted
>Dead by Daylight collab, Kronii joins them despite what she said and also laughs extremely hard which also triggers the unicorns
It was all downhill from there, especially since Kronii kept trying to triger the unicorns by increasing the amount of collabs with Vesper. I feel bad for Altare a little though because he received extreme backlash for both that and Ame's karaoke stunt, and it really wasn't his fault.

>>69420958
It's pretty funny how the girls did more damage to holostar relations than any of the guys ever did

>>69420176
Mori antis talk about it on a daily basis.
Moreover a rap girl liking bbc is as surprising as an otaku having yellow fever.

>>69420958
>Kronii joins them despite what she said and also laughs extremely hard which also triggers the unicorns
The funniest part about this, as someone that watched that stream, is that she didn't really laugh at anything a homo said.
She laughed so hard because of her own fuck ups of accidentally hitting him instead of reviving him.

>>69421158
Yeah I also watched the stream and while it's clear everyone is having a good time and not flirting whatsoever, you try telling that to a bunch of dudes with no female friends. Then she comes out next stream asking the kronies if they ever had friends of the opposite sex and the majority of them saying no had me in stitches.

>>69420132
Who do you think you’re replying to?

>>69420499
>tries to avoid the GurAme begging
>gets the Mumei treatment from schizos instead
Talk about bad luck.

>>69420468
The Mori Situation was less people being unicorns for her and more of the resentment from all the drama and perceived drama she was a part of or assumed to be a part of plus most fans already being on edge after the first half of 2022 had nearly the whole branch barely streamed.
>>69421158
The real bad guy in all of this was the clippers and Dramatubers who had an agenda. Several clippers and Dramatubers were anti unicorn or pro unity/pro Nijisanji and kept taking stuff either out of context or pushing their own interpretation into it to make drama content.
Kronii and Ame though made it worse since they both doubled down. Kiara was the only one who actually called them out for starting shit.

>>69421033
The guys aren’t relevant enough to do damage on their own.

>>69415830
She did it to put fear in the hearts and minds of the cuck brained who will never get a real girlfriend.

>>69421632
The role clippers play in public perception of new chuubas is really understated. If I didn't know any better I'd think that Nerissa only joined Hololive to be a lesbian sex pest.

>>69421511
Friendship between opposite sexes can only exist if at least one of the parties involved is horrendously ugly.

>>69421678
You realize that's only because they were sabotaged by the drama right? Like their rate of growth was way faster than that of their JP counterparts but it grinded to a halt after the beggar/unicorn wars.

>>69422051
I somewhat agree but that's in an irl context. In the world of streaming and especially vtubing it literally doesn't matter.

>>69422071
It was partly by the drama. They were also sabotaged by Magni and Vesper. Both looking back in hindsight had some redflags going on putting whatever goal they had for joining in suspect.
They were the two biggest of the first gen and both were pretty much checked out barely 4 months in and left at one of the worst times.

>>69415830
her collab choices are forced advent collabs every week. I hate it.

In 2 years retards will be posting "2 more weeks" or about how she "really poisoned the well with what she said oh debut and that's why she's the last one to hit 1M subscribers in Advent, what a failure"

>>69420176
if any other member said "based bbc enjoyer" it would be fine and never deleted.
But the jannybeat is such a fragile pussy that he has that shit blacklisted because it's used against his special queen.
Maybe he should blame his fucking oshi for saying it's based to like black cock. What a fucking loser...

>>69422299
I wouldn't be surprised if Mori herself had some ties to the jannies and asked them for special treatment.

>>69422272
She was just on Mori's stream last night.

>>69420021
That's literally a BBC joke tho.

>>69422421
everyone from advent collabs with Mori and raids her since early on. It's why the rrat is alive that she was involved in the hiring.

>>69422415
very likely, she's literally the only one to have her rm name as a banned word, your post doesn't get sent if you try typing demondlce

>>69415830
It filtered the unicorns ahead of time just in case she does eventually do collabs with men and that's a huge if.

>>69422509
>mori hiring the biggest idols in hololive
this is the worst rrat I've ever heard

>>69422513
Personally I don't even know why RM names are still being deleted. Nearly every other Vtuber outside of hololive has just went mask off at one point or another and Mori has borderline done it multiple times.

>>69422509
>Mori is extremely autistic
>Yet is the only one who interacts regularly with Advent besides Kiara
JUST MAKE MYTH STOP BEING AUTISTIC LONERS AND PROMISE NOT DOING HOMEWORK/BEING ON GAY BREAK
FAUNA INTERACTED WITH SHIORI LIKE ONCE ON AN OPEN VC AND THEIR ONLY OTHER EN INTERACTIONS HAS BEEN THE SPORTS FES, FUCKING RIRIKA HAS INTERACTED WITH EN MORE THAN THE OTHER MYTH/PROMISE GIRLS WITH ADVENT

>>69422616
that's because she wanted to funnel her hololive audience into her failed rm, sadly she didn't fuck off after failing like magni

>Shiori seethe
>Mori seethe
>phasefags

>>69422624
>Gura
Trying to force her way through imposter syndrome right now
>Ame
Very reclusive, good luck
>Ina
Very reclusive, good luck
>Kiara
Narissa is unironically her stalker

>Council
Very insular, always have been but even more so since Devis and Advent debuted.

>>69422509
Yeah, man, because Mori definitely knew enough about the old vtubing scene to scout Shiori.

>>69419472
Disingenuous as fuck, the EN Homo's didn't exist until about a year, two for Ame, into them being in Holo but as soon as they did they almost instantly collabed. The EN homos have existed for all of Shiori's career so far and she hasn't at all.

>>69415830
My theory is she wanted to shill her old 1view friends but they became too much and others whom she didn't invite got furious so she dropped it.
This happens to indies who make it to 100 views too let alone holo

>>69422931
I never said she did scouting but she could have played a part in the selecting from all the auditions.

>>69422972
What's disingenuous is to assume the EN homos are even willing to attempt to collab with Advent at this point. Don't deny their agency.

>>69422972
I think we've done this loop at least 5 times already

>>69422624
I mean Bae at least tries. She became very good friends with Biboo, and she has an upcoming collab with Nerissa. FWMC and Shiori are probably much harder to approach, as Shiori is autistic and the dogs require you to constantly pay attention to the keyfabe, but she mentioned/raided both many times regardless.

>>69423014
She's still friends with them.

>>69423014
some of them are making her members content

>>69423141
ok I forgot bae just collabed with bijou because I fucking watched it and it was good

>>69415830
She likes NTR, but knows better than to do it in her current position. So she teased people.

>>69418109
Yeah, as long as it isn't public

>no controversial collab choices
She hasn't collabed one-on-one with my oshi though. That's extremely controversial.

>>69415830
people kept telling me for the past 6 months
>next month
>a few weeks
and nothing happened

>>69416310
based
same shit with Fauna

>>69415830
>respect my collab choices
How did this even take off to the point people still think it's fact when you literally go watch her debut and see she never said?
Like ask anyone to show her saying it and they will shit themselves, so I have no idea how people here still think that's a thing she said.

>>69422836
What's weird is myth did collab very often with council in the beginning, gawra even had her own little clique(SNOT) but the advent girls barely get any attention from their senpai.

>>69424945
this board is full of ESL retards who dont watch streams, what do you expect?

>>69425336
Biboo get's a good amount.

>>69424945
They probably don't believe it either, just spread it for the sake of shitposting.

>>69422624
mumei and bae have 1 on 1 collabed with nerissa and bijou
ina has 1 on 1 collabed with bijou and did a group collab with nerissa and shiori on kiara's channel
fauna has been in open vc with all of advent, mainly in minecraft.
kronii prefers hanging out with the ID girls.
irys has collabed with bijou but outside of that sems to prefer hanging out with flare.
If anything, promise has interacted with advent as much as myth.
do any of you fuckers watch streams?

>>69415830
She just wanted to troll the unicorns, i can respect that.

I am still baffled by the hate she gets here.

>>69424945
What she said was even more bizarre
>respect those around me
This implies that whoever she wanted to collab with wouldn't be from hololive since she is assuming that the hololive fanbase won't respect them.

>>69415830
You guys called her fat and now she doesn’t have the self confidence to interact with guys anymore.

>>69425852
No she's just incredibly autistic. I have an autistic. little sister and she words shit just like that

>>69425751
/vt/ is like a pitpull. Once its jaws have locked, there's no way to get free, even when there's no longer a reason to be biting.

>>69425929
You're coping. She still does stuff with Pending and would even bring him live on stream if her income wasn't on the line.

>>69424945
Thanks to the propaganda from BVTM

>>69426064
2 weeks sister, 2 weeks from now it will happen

>>69416286
>She is making a fortune

Everything is a fortune for the basement dwellers.

>>69426150
What 2 weeks? She already credited Pending for writing her VN.

>>69415830
What about this woman makes other girls seethe on here so much. It's 100% other woman seething about here and don't know why out of all of the girl zin Hololive this just fucking autistic woman makes sisters lose their fucking minds so much?
Did she personally piss in every sisters cup of coffee or something?

>>69426214
>Credited
>Not even on stream collabed
Next you'll tell me it's bad that the girls get their 3D work done with Kanaruru.

>>69426214
>credited
Do you have brain damage?

>>69426346
Why are you acting like Pending is some random guy she hired?

>>69426419
Do you? She credited him and he's someone she used to collab with. They're still friends despite your months of cope about her totally burning all of her bridges with her old friends.

>>69426425
Why are you acting like crediting someone for contributing is the same as a collab? Where's the Kanaruru collab?

>>69424945
The same reason why Ina telling people to calm down with making random "Ina's back" jokes unprompted led to seething rotund anon's spamming "PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP" like rabid dogs on meth.

>>69426508
When did I "act like" it's a collab? I said she is still in contact with the same guy she used to collab with but won't bring him on stream because she knows that cucks like you would rage at her.

>>69426490
>burning bridges with eilene = burning all of her bridges with her old friends
sorry if your brown brain couldn't differentiate.
here's your (you) though, along with "2 more weeks". you seem desperate for it.

>>69426508
I give it 2 weeks

>>69420958
homo collab ban was lifted much earlier than the previous gens were allowed to, which contributed to the favoritism rrat

>>69426641
Enjoy your male friend written content, cucko.

>>69417944
Then why the fuck are you here instead of a thread talking about her shenanigans?

>>69426745
Ah, yes, just like the male directed 3D's with Kanaruru. Oh, wait.

>>69426951
Kanauru isn't anyone's personal friend that they used to collab with. How much longer are you going to push this pathetic cope false equivalence?

>>69427011
>My rrat doesn't hold up so I have to call it false equivalence!
When will you stop being brown and trying to push this "cuck" angle despite no collab with Shiori happening in sight.

>>69426745
>>69426951
>male created content
Pending... Kanauru... Kowkarot. These... 'men'... must die.

>>69419990
>thank you = flirting
How far we have fallen

>>69427255
If it's not a false equivalance then you should be able to point out who Kanauru used to collab with, but you can't and will instead keep sperging out.

>>69416822
that doesn't change the fact that she'd be way higher. it didn't gain her anything, there was no point

>>69427258
Who's personal friends with Kanauru and Kowkarot?

>>69427273
'Thank you~' is miles different from a regular thank you, retard.

>>69427477
Thank you for replying, anon~

>>69427560
get off my dick

>>69427477
That's an interesting opinion~

Phaseniggers getting uppity again it seems?
Today, I will remind them of the karma that hit them.

>>69427595
What's the matter anon~~

>>69427477
Damn, guess I'm in~

>>69415830
>makes completely normal statement
>retards /here/ lose their mind
what did /vt/ mean by this?

>>69427441
it's bad enough that they're friends with/go-to guys for a number of the girls and probably interacted with them more than the homos ever did or will

>>69427635
>>69427712
>>69427730
easy whores, all of you

>>69427854
Who's being easy~?

>>69427779
Being friends is not the same as being the go-to guy. Also why are you randomly bringing up homos?

>>69427477
>>69427730
Shiori once told me "Good luck at work, [anon] ~" so that means we're fucking right?

>>69427359
nta but IRyS and her sound manager. The one that she added on her nintendo switch? If that was a nothingburger, then this one is too.

>>69427957
Wow. When she collabs with Miko, I have no doubt she'll get a "coming home soon, shiorin-chan" notif from you, anon.

>>69427477
>>69427854
>>69427957
I got told "Enjoy your lunch ~" once.
I guess she's my dessert, right?

>>69428043
If he's dogshit and the only reason she works with him is because they're friends then it's similar to this, but in this case you have the male friend writing sappy VN dialogue instead of just doing some technical work.

>>69428186
>I guess she's my dessert, right?
That's hot

>>69428043
You're crossing your incredibly flimsy IRyS rrats, anon. This was her rigger, the sound manager thing was because she said that everyone went out to eat after finishing one of her songs to celebrate.

>>69427952
Because these guys have a better chance of meeting and fucking the girls than the homos that everyone worries about. Must have been hundreds of VCs bts by now.

>>69427477
>verifiable proof of an incel in picture form

>>69428186
desserts are only after dinners, retard

>>69427730
>>69427957
>>69428186
Disingenuous retards, they should of course do that to their fans, not celebs on twitter
Because they can actually message them privately if they want, there's a difference

>>69415830
probably got scared of the backlash and smartly decided to back down.

>>69427854
EZ MODO~?!

>>69428442
Stop derailing the conversation.

>>69428485
Text, you mean. How retarded are you to screw up an easy insult...

>>69428533
But I'm already in her DMs though, as her husband~

>>69415830
She said that she will only collab with people she considers friends. Delusional anons heard that and made something else out of it, like usual. You can rewatch her original debut stream where she says it and then come back and post about the Mandela effect and how we must be in a simulation. The truth is that she always phrased it the way I'm describing.

>>69428715
cute

>>69428533
>provide proof that she does it all the time and it has no meaning
>n-no! it means something! my rrat is real!
Get a load of this guy, was the phase collab with lia and flygon not enough? will the eventual pippa collab make you seethe too?

>>69428629
How is that derailing the conversation? Shiori has male friends creating her membership content and so do many other girls. This bts shit should be more damning than public controversial collabs that happen once in a blue moon or are in constant two weeks limbo.

>>69416094
Clarify what? She already said it clearly. If she clarified you would have made up more drama, then she has to clarify the clarification, and clarify the clarification of the first clarification. Or you could just not be stupid and addicted to drama so much you invent interpretations out of your anus.

>>69426745
This board is fucking unsalvageable lmao

>>69428893
>so do many other girls
So who are these other girls and who are their male friends?

>>69428694
>*sigh*

FIIIIIIIINE

>>69428986
All me, baby.

>>69429061
Concession accepted.

>>69429101
Confession accepted, you are now my GF.

>>69428533
>"~" means sex and cuck porn!
Just what in the goddamn fuck is wrong with shiori schizos? Holy shit

>>69428986
Chegi, Seafoam, kanauru, kowkarot, pending, etc. All of these guys have talked with EN girls on VC, many perfect opportunities for flirting, and don't tell me that wouldn't happen in the workplace or across the internet.

>enjoying comedy skit that have a woman in it
>realize i am cucked because the script was written by a man,the cameraman is a man and the ones that brought the materials for the skit are men

>>69428896
People had the right to be wary given her past also she was purposefully vague about the word friends and of course people latched on to the idea of her twitch friends because what else was there?? All she had to do was say teehee I will be focusing on mostly solo content and no misunderstandings would have occured.

How the fuck did unicorns water down the term "cucking" so much? Unicorns used to just be against male collabs, now they're having a melty over a fucking credit and a thank you tweet.

>>69429017
Fucking baka, why didn't you title the png "incel take" or something? 314? Do I have to hold your hand through this?

>>69429241
Actually, that joke was written by a woman.
So now you don't know WHAT the hell to do!

>>69429119
>shiori schizos
Did this broad collectively forget the existance of holoantis? They will post homos/niji and whatever the fuck they can to shit on the girls+fans.

>>69429284
>she's responsible for my mental illness and for my retarded interpretation
slit your throat.

>>69415830
She's quirked up to the max

>>69429302
After the two tempus homos left and affirmation of CGDCT from Jap, they smelled blood in the water and are going ham. Give an inch, take a mile yadda yadda.

>>69429353
/shig/ was harshly reminded of that yesterday when we got raided for three consecutive threads in a row.

>>69429362
Yes she's responsible for her words and actions and the consequences thereof, discordsimp.

>>69429203
You're still getting all of this the wrong way around. None of these people are old friends of anyone except for pending. The only reason why pending in involved with anything Shiori does is because they're friends and you're desperately trying to downplay the fact that they used to collab, but keep repeating "2 more weeks sis!!" to cope. I'm sure it helps.

Special shiori operation status ?

>>69429585
I have no ball in the game when it comes to Shiori, she rubs me the wrong way. My angle is that if Shiori has friends bts to make her content, then what does that make these other guys to the other girls? They're trusted just the same, guys that constantly interact with for the same purpose. People go on about homo collabs but don't consider what's going on right under their noses. Even Jenma's probably getting flirted with through DMs, this is a travesty.

>>69429284
The rape vocaroo stuff and her shady dealings aside, it was perfectly clear what she meant in her debut stream. There is being wary because of one thing, and making up and believing a delusion from something completely different. People that believed that it implied male collabs only have three possible explanations.
A. They're lying to cause drama
B. They're ESL and actually don't understand half of what people say
C. They hallucinated it and continued to believe their delusion when others constantly presented them with evidence.

You can't fix any of those problems with any additional explanations.

>>69429119
Bro I seen grown ass men weep irl from the girl they will/have never speak to kissing their openly spoken about husband goodbye when they stopped by at work.

>he was fired for stalking her online and tried to propose to her before being escorted out by police because he kept yelling to see her and the bosses room locks from the inside
>Restraining order and bans helped for 3 weeks before he shoved his way into our building following someone in which is secure with security and keycards
>lol she was off that day and we & her pressed charges as he violated order and tried to break into secure building
>hes out in 2033 lmao

Some people are irreparably broken.

>>69415830
The deal is that you're an ESL autist.

>>69429585
Are you the one nijinigger that tried to stir shit about this in global and /#/ and got laughed out of both? Your posting style is familiar.

>>69429970
I don't disagree at all but you're derailing the conversation.
Worms like Kanauru getting overly familiar due to being a "pro" level fan is a separate and different thing from the situation with Shiori and Pending.

>>69430217
Yeah bro I'm all the people who post things you don't like. Just tell that to yourself if it helps you cope. It doesn't even matter if I say no because you've already decided what you're seeing.

>this thread
>suddenly collabs with an old man from pbs
How did you do it, OP?

>>69430286
>This overly defensive about it
You literally could have said "No." lol.

>>69430360
I already told you why I won't say no. You already decided that I am your arch nemesis.

>>69430286
>getting overly familiar due to being a "pro" level fan is a separate and different thing from the situation with Shiori and Pending
in what sense? one becomes friends during, and one is already friends, the end result is the same. they're friends bts.

>>69416874
literally the only metric that actually matters at the end of the day.
>Verification not required.

>>69430286
I don't think it's all that different considering the ending is all the same. Some guy they've gotten close to or rely on all the time creates their content and we're expected to lap it up. Fuck that. It's especially disingenuous when they're GFE like Shiori or have said they won't collab with homos but will pull this shit bts. Whatever.

>>69429970
Unicorns on /vt/ dont care of they are actually getting cuck, they are fucking someone? has a boyfriend? dont care its offstream. But homo collabs thats on stream sex to them. I dont know where you have been the past year if you dont know this.

>>69419319
point out one thread with more than 100 replies and a 1 to 1 poster to reply ratio
how retarded are you

>>69430682
>>69429486
keep up with the times slowpoke

>>69430572
>>69430669
Pending isn't entering holo discords and writing shit for everyone in the company. If it wasn't for Shiori, he wouldn't be involved at all.
Kanauru was nobody's friend and he's involved because there was a reason for it beyond "he's my friend".

>>69430987
i dont see how this is a problem unless pending starts doing work for other holos and he's probably being paid for it while he just does it for free for shiori though? like where is this even going anymore? i thought this was initially hating people that get close to holos bts but you're trying really hard to push specifically shiori's case as if it were any different.

It goes both ways, it means she doesn't want people nothing about who she chooses to collab with, and also to people not to beg for collabs, like homobeggars always do.

>>69431187
pending is definitely getting paid, as with her other friends working on the Shiori project, probably out of her own pocket though

>>69431187
Pending isn't a problem to anyone except the people that pretend that Shiori does not interact with men and would never ever in her entire life collab with one. Even then he's really not the one to blame.

>>69430987
Pending has an in if someone one day likes his work and asks Shiori for the contact info. Kanauru provided a needed skill and is now in everyone's DMs/VC'd with them along with many other guys. And people are harping about homo/controversial collabs when this is the real problem.

>>69426274
I'm having trouble figuring it out myself. The way they go after her almost reminds me of the vitriol they have for girls they perceive as "pick me's", but that wouldn't make any sense if you watched even 5 minutes of any given Shiori stream.

Pending is nepohire. Commission actually good scriptwriters, Shiori.
>muh giving chance because le friends
Yeah, fuck that.

>>69431331
paid work makes it even less of a problem. id understand going for the free labor, but hey, if he gets paid in cash, cool.
>>69431364
>except the people that pretend that Shiori does not interact with men
this is literally impossible since her manager is a male and anyone that watches her already knows this from the hundreds of times she's brought it up herself.
>and would never ever in her entire life collab with one
the chances of it are astronomically low as of right now, given how much of a stickler for the rules shiori is when it comes to things such as getting permission, (if she asked her manager and he said no, that's the end of that story.) and how frequently she collabs with anyone at all.

>>69431641
>if he gets paid in cash, cool
the cooch is the goal, cash is just a perk

>>69431641
not saying that it's a problem, not the person you were replying to btw
I'm fine with her helping her friends in ways she can, I think it's cute and very nice of her. I know he's been having her with bts since the start, but I just really dislike having Pending write the script for the tier 3 videos

>>69431641
>the chances of it are astronomically low as of right now
But she did it in the past and one of the men she used to collab with is now "only" writing some of her content.
You can say she's not literally collabing with him, but you know that the reason she doesn't isn't because she has anything against him.

>>69431776
given how he's talked about his preferences in men and how he's of the pronoun gang., i dont think the cooch is happening there, but i don't really care to think about the same things that the browns do in that regard.
>>69431929
didnt shiori talk about this and say he just helped compile (and code it for the vn) it while the ideas are hers originally?

>>69432013
anon, this is starting to sound just like the 2 more weeks gang.
>she did x in the past, she'll do it again, just ignore the part where she has rules and permissions to follow
im responding to you thinking that you were arguing in good faith, don't let me down now.

>>69432168
When did I said she will do it again? I said that the reason she won't isn't because she started hating men and is now literally her fanbase's girlfriend.
She's friends with men and if you're a "unichad" then that should be a problem to you.

>>69432052
pfft fags will fuck any hole just ask elton john

>>69431546
reminder that the cuts she gets from your membership, SCs, and merch purchases are being used to promote her friends instead of actually commissioning skilled talents

>>69432366
you implied it with the "now" part as in, it's not happening "now" but it will.
that or you need to pick your words better.
>She's friends with men
i covered this with her manager, and she's literally talked about her friends before, on stream multiple times. im still not understanding what the issue is?
>if you're a "unichad" then that should be a problem to you.
why? unicorns only ever cared about what happens on stream, and im not a unicorn, im stating literal fact. vt's fantasy of what a unicorn is, doesn't apply.

>>69418109
>holo love doing idol stuff without the demerit culture
>"it idol culture they hate male REEEEEEE"
Im glad hololive is the definition of vtubing and you faggot have to follow their path for any relevancy.

>>69432052
>idnt shiori talk about this and say he just helped compile (and code it for the vn) it while the ideas are hers originally?
dunno, maybe you can provide a timestamp. haven't been keeping up with her as religiously

>>69428851
No, I'm nta, I'm saying that it's not the same when it's towards their fans which is normal