/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

mental illness, we should bully them to suicide

>4chan is against bullying mentally ill people now

>mentally ill people bullying other mentally ill people for being a different kind of mentally ill

I think their best strat would've been to deny bullying, but the company itself admitted that other organs were bullying her.
So it's either the very lean management that is throwing the organs under the bus to deflect from their bullying, or it's a case of talking too much.

Stop crying from doki. She already won.

>>69412241
4chan is, was, and always will be pro burning down a company for shits and grins.

>>69412104
I'd say this is just normal woman behavior, but I'm pretty sure Phase has a mostly female audience as well, and they're mostly fine if not a little quirky

Doki: i'm not feeling so good guys..
Niji: WE HAVE FIRED SELEN FOR BEING A STUPID BITCH WHO BREAKS THE RULES AND ACCUSES US OF BULLYING
Doki: uhh...
Niji: YES, SHE ACCUSED ELIRA, VOX, MILLIE AND ENNA OF BULLYING! WHAT A BITCH!

>>69412308
>the company itself admitted that other organs were bullying her
source next thread right?

Nijisisters live in a constant state of aggression. They are aggressive about their enjoyment, their doubts, and their anger. They view what amounts to NijiEN committing several acts of self-harm as a purposeful campaign against them by Doki, and thus, they swarm against her for issues better resolved by questioning one’s own household first.

>>69412348
Phase does not have a mostly female audience, the fuck are you talking about?

>>69412308
>but the company itself admitted that other organs were bullying her
It was way funnier than that. They basically said she was being bullied but deserved it.

>>69412241
4chin is not a single entity you dysgenic sis, and basking in the company that introduced faggotry into vtubing burning to a crisp is a joy to behold

>>69412440

>>69412487
I just said "I think" not "I know". no need to have your period over it

>>69412517
They said she accused them of bullying and they denied it. Then they tried to turn public opinion against her by getting other talents to say she was doing menhara things, trying to imply she’s a troublemaker but it came off to a lot of people as, “she deserved bullying”

>>69412440
Can you at least keep up with the idiots you're trying to defend?

>>69412241

>>69412564
NTA, but is that the actual fucking source for that claim? That's obviously Nijisanji saying Selen had made some claims, one of which was bullying from fellow livers. Jesus Christ, there's enough evidence against nijisanji people don't need to go making more up.

>>69412440
Shut the fuck up, daph. Don't speak on matters you're too much of a cunt to understand

>>69412676
paid actors are not paid to regurgitate truths

>>69412692
>missing the point
Selen never publically made a statement against livers you retard
Niji aired that dirty laundry themselves.
The only thing selen has ever said about livers is to leave them alone
stupid fuck

>>69412692

>>69412104

i fucking hate autists, retards, pretending tumblrfaggots and professional victims crying wolf.

if you fuck up and publicly make an ass out if yourself you deserve to be stoned like the genetic deadend you are.

this selen drama is the special olympics of snowflakes. if you had ever dealt with any of these straightjacket types yourself you would never side with them. too many clueless niggers making public opinion tier moral judgements on people they know nothing about.

Verification not required

>>69412104
Luxiem stans in a nutshell.

>>69412692
That’s literally all they have, in addition to a financial document saying financial impact will be negligible and a really stupid video from Elira

>>69412310
But niji hasn't burnt down, and the clique has yet to show for their crimes.

>>69412241
Only if it is justified you fucking edgy qa nigger

>>69412753
ok, tourist. calm down

>>69412702
Fuck, how do I get in on that? I don't need cash, I actually would like some steam gift cards.

>>69412736
Are you retarded? Why are you attacking a point he didn’t make with a copypasted response? The company never admitted to bullying retard. This whole fiasco is reading comprehension 101

>>69412736
I don't think I'm missing the point, I don't think the point exists at all. That isn't Nijisanji admitting livers were bulling Selen, that's Nijisanji disclosing that's what Selen was claiming. That's two very different things, and even though they probably were bullying her, that doesn't make those two things equivalent.

>Dokifag on it way to lying to defend their whore again

>>69412241
>4chan is le pure evil
Never has been.

>>69412930
>on it way

>>69412930
>nijifags continue to defend the 2%

>>69412770
So, they have an absolute fuck ton of material. Thanks for clarifying

>>69412930
>Look mom I posted it again!
>This time Enna will have sex with me for sure!!!

>>69412869
One of the rare posters with a 3 digit IQ on this board who isn’t seeking vtuber drama because it’s the only excitement and meaning they get in their mundane lives

>>69412104
I mean... Anons bully mentally ill people all the time here, don't know if this is the right place to be denouncing this behavior

>>69412869
Yes, but then they confirmed it with their fucking stupid black screen stream, timed perfectly to emotionally harass Doki in a horribly obvious attempt to catch her without a lawyer.

>>69413363
Maybe rub two brain cells together for once in your life and think of other possible reasons why that might have occurred? You don’t have to believe everything you read on the internet

>>69412241
Just because we hate chrischan doesnt mean we hate ulillillia. We hate people who take their mental illness and use it as a crutch and a weapon, and tend to like people who treat it as a unique obstacle to work past.

>>69412869
>>69412831
Because that line brought in new and unnecessary idea into the discussion. Nobody thought liver bullying was the reason leading to selen's termination before that line. Unless you can immediately refute such claim, then it's oftentimes an admission of guilt and a way to shift blame

>>69413457
You can die on this hill if you want. The fact that it occurred means NijiEN's fucking doomed lol.

>>69413550
>Nobody thought liver bullying was the reason leading to selen's termination before that line.
Nobody /here/ who read millies tweet saw it as anything other than bullying, the shocking part was that selen was taking legal action about it. Look at it this way: when elira revealed that she enna and millie were the bullies, everyone was shocked that elira was a bully. The other two were obvious.

Nijisanji is a black company

>>69412104
It's the reason why the trolls and rrats hit them as hard as they did anon.
>>69412241
NijiEN was exercising crazy control over someones life as they are going through it. Yet you wonder why Niji got dog piled on?

>>69413631
I agree with you, NijisanjiEN is doomed and they should have been more careful about how they scheduled. I don’t think it was planned, though — just sheer incompetence instead of maliciousness

>>69413363
>>69413550
These are some wacky jumps in logic. Nijisanji isn't admitting to anything based on that document nor the poorly handled response video. Assume all you want based on intent, and you'd probably even be correct. But that's still just an assumption.

Regardless, I'm not NDF. I didn't watch Niji or Selen before this and won't after. I'm not here to argue and defend shit. I was just surprised how much the internet mob will twist shit, even when it's completely unnecessary. It's a pretty interesting microcosm of some sort of something.

>>69413518
chris chan is a 1000x bigger victim of bullying than the obese BPD chink

>>69413979
reddit spacing

>>69414025
Chris is beyond mentally ill but he also grew up in a time where people had thicker skin in the Internet where Selen is just an older zoomer

>>69412104
If you don't agree you simply have not spent enough time around mentally ill people lol

>>69413979
You remind me of my nephew who puts on a white coat and yells out 'For Science'. very good armchair observation, mmhmm hmm.

>>69412104
That wasn't the argument being made anon. The argument was
>Doki is mentally ill so she interpreted completely harmless and benign interactions as bullying

>>69412104
>people

>>69412777
>777
Ok, Anon.

>>69414324
Then prove it's those interactions she was referring to.
Oh wait, you can't?
This is why people shit on you sisters

>>69412241
>she thinks one person deleting themself is more glorious than destroying a billion dollar company

>>69412399
I couldn't have put together a more perfect summary if I tried LMAO

>>69414403

>>69414324
Is deliberately scheduling a slander stream at the same time as her neopets stream also a
>harmless and benign
interaction?

>>69412104
Tbh she is mentally ill but that doesn't justify the clique bullying her into suicide. The sisters are currently waging their Afghanistan war because they try to do everything they can to disprove the GURRAT, including throwing out their rational thinking if they had any to begin.

>>69414388
This is peak shitposting, I like it

>>69412564
read mother fucker.

>>69414503
You don't understand, it's just a coincidence that it happened at the exact same time as the stream from the person who they're literally targeting in that video. They clearly had no idea what she was doing because it makes sense to not keep tabs on the person at the source of your current PR nightmare who just posted their public schedule several days before.

>>69414557
And?

>>69414557
Comprehend fucker.
It's about who made it public first, when it was suppose to be a private matter.

>>69414601
niji didnt say she was harassed, they are saying selen claimed she was harassed.

And also yeah, she never took responsibility for anything.

>>69414557
It literally does not matter anymore WHAT she claimed. Niji's downfall is entirely on them and I will be enjoying every second of it. Nothing short of first degree murder would be worth the responses they had.

>>69413669
Niji termination was not addressing people /here/. Their line only added fuel to the bullying rrat the same way it confirmed the apostrophe rrat.

>elira revealed that she enna and millie were the bullies, everyone was shocked that elira was a bully.

We're you even here? Elira was crowned the lique queen since the beginning of the rrat because of her connection with Enna and Millie, not to mention the "nova" leak.

>>69413979
1. It's ultimately an assumption. Yes, but:

2. The inclusion of the sentence was written by nijisanji and could be completely be omitted by simply mentioning "selen claim she was harassed at work". It was included to specifically throw liver under the bus.
You don't include random things in it if it doesn't have significant importance. In this case they confirmed selen's legal action is indeed due to bullying from other livers due to mismanagement.

Reminder

>>69414557
Who said that retard? It’s niji retard. This shit wouldnt be that big if niji didnt said none of that retarded shit, retard.

>>69414632
She claimed to the company retard. Niji is the one made it puplic retard

>>69412241
It's so sweet that VT is defending the alleged FtM trans furry mentally ill male collaber apex streamer. You guys have really changed for the better!

>>69414632
Yeah, but Selen didn't say anything publicly about that before. It was literally Niji who got everyone putting the puzzle pieces together by posting that line

>>69414557
You see two people, one of them is crying, the other said "he claims I pushed him on the ground and started kicking him in the ribs"

What's your reaction?

1. Ok, it's just his claim, nothing to see, go on.
2. Did this guy just admit guilt?

>>69414705
You can tell how many people are /here/ just because they want the satisfaction of being a part of something like the creation gurrat because of how fucking behind they are holy shit

>>69412241
srs, qa, and bant are such colossal mistakes jesus christ

>>69414884
anon it's 2024, any girl under 30 that isn't getting any is ftm until they get a boyfriend

>>69414884
Yup. Defending Riku’s cum-dumpster is way better.

It is simply a massive string of years of coincidences, mistakes, mistranslations and misunderstandings that always benefit a specific group of people and harm those outside that group. If you think otherwise you're insane

>>69414705
>Elira was crowned the lique queen since the beginning of the rrat because of her connection with Enna and Millie, not to mention the "nova" leak.
Youre mistaking catalog for nijien. No one in catalog knew or cared who nova was just like how no one here can name millie's PL. Elira clique queen was always a shaky rrat because enna was clearly the bitchiest bitch and the one thing elira had going for her was being hired first and probably nepohiring the others.

>>69415119
Source: I read a rrat

>>69415724
Nina, mysta both shit on niji management, a bunch of graduations, terminations. All of those are public. You are so fucking retarded man.

>>69412104
>fine for her whole life
>suddenly mentally ill when she's broke and wants an excuse to quit
kek, you idiots will fall for anything. grifter whores suicide baiting for pity is the oldest play in the book

>>69416123
You shouldn’t talk about Vox like that, the hive will get upset.

>>69415724
No, all of those PROVEN things gave birth to the rrat jesus christ daph

>>69412104
kek

>>69412241
only if the mentally ill people deserve it retard

>>69412930
Very good posting ser, 4channel is of hating bloody benchod doki whore

>>69412104
I thought she was just autistic. The only ones that need to be bullied to suicide are unicorns.

>>69416481
>rent free

>>69412241
Only not when it's you, Enna, kill yourself

>>69412104
>>69412104
Daddy issues for most of them, the rest have been groomed, molested, and probably cut their dick off.

>Doki is mentally ill
If you understand this, you should already know that the suicide bait could be fake

>>69412104
Correct. Mental illness should be purged from society. The more BDP schizos driven to an heroing the better

>>69417003
they literally have the medical documents and diagnosis from the doctor you coping cunt

>>69417003
how the fuck could she be lying about suicide if she has multiple sources like her parents and hospital that can attest to her actually attempting?

>>69413845
>just sheer incompetence instead of maliciousness
It's a mix of both. If they weren't malicious, they would've settled the matter privately with Doki and her lawyer instead of making the video.

>>69417092
>she took a few too many le hecking pillerinos
Selen is truly an hero

>>69417892
show her how it's done champ

>>69412348
Phase is transparently mentally ill though, it's not something under the surface that's festering. It's right there on the label which aligns expectations

>>69413152
>>Look mom I posted it again!
>>This time Dookiebird will have sex with me for sure!!!

>>69418046
Get back to work sea monkey

>>69418046
>>>Look Riku I posted it again!
>>>This time he'll let me on the yacht for sure!

>>69418087
>Get back to slaving for mr.scholo.
>oh and don't forget to die for ukraine next.

>>69417092
>Medical "document"
That shit can be forged just like the vax papers

>>69412104
We support Doki here.

>>69418130
sea monkeys just can't stop thinking about snow cock huh?

>>69412104
"Bullying" Imagine if she worked a real job lol

>>69418132
>NDF lying so hard they're trying to make up a narrative that Doki forged her own medical records
I wonder if Riku regrets his decision to hire retarded clowns to astroturf for Nijisanji.

>>69418232
>burger golems can't stop thinking about black cock huh?

>>69412104
https://www.brightquest.com/borderline-personality-disorder/borderline-personality-disorder-and-paranoid-ideation/
>During times of stress, which may be caused by interpersonal conflict or a lack of self-confidence when facing personal or professional challenges, a person with BPD may suddenly feel surrounded by menace or danger. They may suspect that others—even people they would normally trust—are conspiring against them, or that mysterious forces may somehow be oppressing them
>In one comprehensive study of patients receiving mental health services, 87 percent of participants with BPD reported experiencing the symptoms of paranoid ideation. This type of paranoia is classified as “non-delusional,” which separates it from the paranoid delusions associated with psychotic conditions.
There is a 87% chance she is lying about it. Cluster Bs are pieces of shit and have a massive stigma in the psychology field.

>>69418303
Elira's the one who hired them.

>>69418184
who's /we/? I equally hate both selen and nijisanji you absolute nigger.

>>69414557
this nijisisters is a lost cause lol

>>69414931
3. Whip out popcorn and watch the shit show.

>>69418240
She would've killed herself already, right bro? lol what a weak mental. Trump2024 btw

>>69418351
Still no proof of bpd. You've tried countless times yet get shot down every time, sister.

>>69418351
This is what happens when nijisisters try to use statistics.

>>69418341
You're the only one who mentioned black cock, Seanigger, especially since your whole race is basically what happens when a nigger fucks a chink.

>>69413631
Lol
Lmao even
I wish niji got burned to the ground since they're a bunch of faggots since forever, but just Kanae, Kuzuha, Maimoto and Touya are all individuality more relevant than the whole nijiEN branch besides when Luxiem was on their peak in 2022

>>69418511
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1279366897910206464
Your only argument against is that Dookie is lying about it. Shows how much you trust her lmao.

>>69412241
Go an hero yourself anon.

There, is that what you want?

>>69418132
>selen forged medical documents
>selen told a bunch of irl doctors and her parents to go along with her fake suicide story
>irl nurses have to pretend she spent a month in the hospital or something
holy copium

>>69412241
you sounds like someone who never acutally participated in any dedicated general thread on 4chan before. neck yourself fucking tourist.

I will never forgive ninjisanji for what they did to Luna.

>>69418683
A twitter bio is not a medical record. Self-diagnosed mental illnesses are the most thing after trannoids who think they can change gender by putting pronouns in their twitter bio.

>>69418741
This level of mind fuckery is what they're trying to use to fight against the gurr?

Mid

>>69418351
This will be on NijiEN's tombstone kek

>>69418809
If she is lying about this she could be lying about everything else as well. Nice self-own.

im for burning down nijisanji no matter how many talent or ex talent suffer collateral damage

>>69418875
Being dumb and reading too much shit on the internet isn't the same as lying. People reading a 2 page clickbait article on mental illnesses and extrapolating circumstantial evidence with symptom lists do not make for a medical diagnosis.

>>69418184
>We?

>>69412104
No one bullied her.

>>69412399
Selen directed a harassment campaign against them and they have a right to respond and refute her claims

>>69419059
>No one bullied her.
Source: my ass
hope you get fucked by a toxic work environment too and see how you like it

>>69419059
Is this harrassment campaign in the room with us right now

>>69419059
>Hey bitch whats u been up to??
>AGH HELP ME ENNA IS BULLYING MEEE
>Drinks aspirin two times
>UwU I tried to kill myself twice!

>>69419025
It sounds like she fakes shit for pity points. Why else would she put that in her bio if it's not a formal diagnosis? Moreover she was proven to lie before and cuck her fans with Nocturnal secretly.

>>69412399
Hell this is the best tl;dr I've ever seen of the whole situation.

>>69419203
Because everyone is young and dumb at one point and want to stand out in some way. Mental illness and being a sad person makes you look interesting, just look at the emokids from the early 2000s.
>Moreover she was proven to lie before and cuck her fans with Nocturnal secretly.
Only people with bpd ever lie and would rather play with their friends than strangers? Better make a worldwide psa that most of the population has bpd then.

>>69419059
hopefully enna throws your whore under the bus too lmao

>>69418768
She would’ve been another 2view on the street without them. She should be thankful

>>69419343
You're literally trusting a piece of shit cheater who cucked you before. I'm sure someone has the Noc receipts. She straight up lied to her cuckgoons on twitter about not being able to stream when she was playing with him.

>>69419447
>thinking every waking moment playing video games needs to be spent on stream

You're the kind of fucker who got mad at Kronii for Minecraft, aren't you?

>>69419161
Did I just imagine all her dramatuber buddies making videos to stoke outrage? Did I just imagine them smearing Enna and Millie as bullies, or saying that Elira is the ringleader of a secret organization within Nijisanji dedicated to harassing Selen and embezzling money? It's been nothing but outright defamation coming straight from people who are friends with her

>>69419151
And your source for your claim that she was bullied?

>>69419489
It wouldn't be a problem if she didn't lie about it. She's a cheater. She cheated on her fanbase with Noc.

Doki: i'm not feeling so good guys..
Niji: WE HAVE FIRED SELEN FOR BEING A STUPID BITCH WHO BREAKS THE RULES AND ACCUSES US OF BULLYING
Doki: uhh...
Niji: YES, SHE ACCUSED ELIRA, VOX, MILLIE AND ENNA OF BULLYING! WHAT A BITCH!

>>69419447
>You're literally trusting a piece of shit cheater who cucked you before
That's just you trying to cast her bad light while not sounding exactly like a good or trustworthy person yourself.
> I'm sure someone has the Noc receipts.
Ok? Even if you had they what's that supposed to prove? That she has friends?
>She straight up lied to her cuckgoons on twitter about not being able to stream when she was playing with him.
She's free to take a break and do what she wants. I'm pretty sure the other livers aren't exactly active at the moment, are you demanding they stream for you even if they don't feel like it?

>>69419521
Keep telling yourself that, friendo. I don't think you watch vtubers for the right reasons. Hell, I don't even think you watch streams.

>>69419567
>>69419573
>being a cuckold is okay! I don't mind that she lied to us!

>>69419638
Really now? Just going straight for random insults? I can assure you, you'll never have sex with your oshi, no matter how much you try to defend them. And he/she will have a life separate from their streaming career where they'll date, marry or have sex with people that aren't you.

>>69419638
>She lied
>Source? My schizophrenic dreams

>>69418351
>and have a massive stigma in the psychology field.
Dont you retards still set up your offices like freud did, with your entire reasoning being that its because freud did it?

>>69419767
Apparently one time she said she was going to be busy one day, and then she played Apex. And this person was so offended by that that they've been seething in random threads posting the same shit ever since. I don't even think they're related to the NDF drama.

>>69419833
This one is related to the ndf. The sister is just shifting arguments everytime one gets destroyed and just coopting the other autist's argument.

>>69419447
>cucking her fans

New goalpost achieved. A piece of advice: go after her dog and tell her dog that Doki has a BDP.

>>69419904
Oh maybe. It's still funny to imagine an opportunist sad little man going around random threads waiting for a selen drama to bring back this one grudge.

>>69419744
Again, it wouldn't be a problem if she didn't lie about it. You can't: "but I don't see her as my gf" out of this. She had something to hide and lied to her fanbase.

>>69419833
She played offstream with Noc multiple times while giving bullshit excuses to cuckgoons. I don't have the receipts (lol) with me right now but I'm sure someone else does.

>>69419948
She's free to say a white lie to let down the more autistic part of her fanbase, I don't care. If she said "I don't feel like streaming today" I would have been fine with it but other people, like you, make a big deal out of it.

For a adult like me, niji was over when they called somebody a lying junkie and whore, who probably fucks her fans for large sums of money in a termination notice.
Even if its all 110% true, no professional workplace should act like that.
I was shocked thats not illegal in whatever shithole their employment takes place.
If a publicly traded corp acts like that in public, I dont want to imagine the horror that happens behind closed doors.
There is no dispelling that, so you might as well give up fags.

>>69420098
>For a adult like me, niji was over when they called somebody a lying junkie and whore, who probably fucks her fans for large sums of money in a termination notice.

wait what
wasn't that idol corp? Otherwise man, Selen's been off doing some wild shit.

>>69420015
>it's okay to lie and cuck your fans
Starting to sound a lot like a Rushia/Mikeneko fan.

>>69420280
Oh no! Next you'll tell us she's not actually a 10 billion year old dragon with a scary demon arm! Say it isn't so!

>>69414324
To be fair sometimes I don't when people are banting or actually insulting each other, and I'm not autistic

>>69420280
Only unicorns care about their oshi's rm relationships. I know this sounds strange to a nijisister menhera from the doxxsite, but most people aren't obsessed like you.

>>69419948
I don't understand cucks who expect purity from a male collaber, and the turbo cucks who try to deny it.

>>69420372
She played offstream with Noc on her Selen account. You could easily track it.

>>69413099
because they hope to get 2% of minimum wage for their shilling lmaooooooo

>>69420421
>>69420410
We're telling you we know. We also don't care. Seethe more.

>>69420015
Aren't you also part of that autistic fanbase if you're jumping through hoops to convince yourself she's not banging that dude? If you really don't care then you shouldn't be trying to refute the allegations since it means nothing to you either way. You're just the other side of the cuck coin.

>>69420421
Again why should I care? Do you think the livers are stringless puppets outside of streams and should do absolutely nothing else?
Also, do you concede that you do not know whether she has bpd? You've been shifting your arguments around so much we lost focus of the initial point.

>>69420464
>oshit is proven to be a serial liar piece of shit
>We don't care
lol lmao

>>69418768
The fact that Ayame interacts with this panda bitch is another reason to hate the lazy oni

>>69412761
Please don't post my lost daughter.
It still hurts.

>>69420464
Didn't ask, I just expressed that I can't understand your cuck mindset.

>>69420472
I'm not convincing myself of anything. I literally said that I don't care earlier.
see
>>69419744
This apply to most streamers, no matter the kayfabe they try to build and I' perfectly confortable with that. The question is why some people aren't.

>>69420280
Isn't there a leak that said she plans to reveal it but cover stop her?

>>69419638
Kek
Dragoons are pathetic

>>69420472
>because of my headcanon that she's fucking another man, she deserves to be slandered and not be able to create the content that me and several hundred thousand people enjoy her for.

yeah ok sister.

>>69412104
It's Gura's fault. The less Gura streams, the more mentally ill people escape to support places like niji.

>>69420521
>Skipping work to play games with the bros.
I dont see any problem. I just dont want to hear about my oshi being creampied on stream.

>>69420575
>i don't care...it means nothing...BUT YOU ARE WRONG SHE IS A PURE VIRGIN SAINT
Your argument should be that it's okay to ditch fans to spend time with her boyfriend because she needs a healthy personal life too, but you're literally doing cuckflips to have your cake and eat it too.

>>69420280
Anon, nijis are cucks since forever, why do you think they hate hololive?

>>69420614
>he admits that boyfriend accusations counts as "slander"
lmao thanks for proving my point

You too see it as a bad thing, that's why you don't want to believe it, yet ironically you disparage fans who are upset at it when you're technically a more advanced delusional/autistic stage than they are.

>>69420693
Are you dumb? I've never believed she was a virgin. Do you not know how to read or are you just being intetionally dense?

>>69420280
Selen was never gfe you disingenuous niggerfaggot

>>69420761
>i don't care if she's not a virgin..BUT DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME SHE IS CURRENTLY NOT SINGLE REEEE
Man this is some sort of turbo cuck shit.

>>69420754
Eh? Why on earth are you even talking about boyfriends right now when she almost died and got both her life and career threatened by Niji? I don't care if she gets creampied by 5 guys on stream, it doesn't give Niji a pass for the shit they did to her. That's the kind of slander I don't want to see.

Anyway, since we got sidetracked quite a bit, I think we can all agree that we do not if she has bpd, rendering the whole "she's just a serial liar" argument moot.

>sister keeps changing the angle of attack every 3 posts to keep shitting on Selen all all xir points get refuted
what a slimy fuck
take a shower

>>69420873
You're just being dense. Well, ok then, enjoy arguing with imaginary points then you all make up in your own little mind.

>>69420895
>abandons the argument entirely and tries to change topic, with some kind of cringe emotional appeal like a woman
Yeah you're definitely a stereotypical diehard cuck. None of this even relates to the niji harassment shit at all.

>>69414770
/thread

>SELEN LIED AND WAS HARD TO WORK WITH
>so? doesn't excuse Niji's actions
>SELEN HAS BPD
>so? doesn't excuse Niji's actions
>SELEN HAS A BF KEK
>so? doesn't excuse Niji's actions
what next?

>>69412564
you forgot the important part

>>69420963
Stop replying to bait bro, just stop feeding it

>>69420911
Women are baseline mentally ill liars.
They are selling Dreams, its just rude to wake people up, not any kind of gotcha.

>>69420963
All I'm doing is arguing based on the posts made in here. Maybe in your cuck mind you were trying to say something else, but all I saw was someone saying she ditches her fans to play with a dude who is alleged as her boyfriend and you going "ditching is totally fine b-b-b-but he's not her boyfriend"

>>69420863
>>69419948
>Again, it wouldn't be a problem if she didn't lie about it. You can't: "but I don't see her as my gf" out of this.
Regardless if you how see her she clearly thought she had something to lose if she played with Nocturnal on-stream.

>>69421045
The post you're replying to was made 4 hours ago, I'm pretty sure whoever made it left ages ago.

>>69420911
Pretty much. No new info other than this one weirdo talking to himself trying to paint her with his NTR fantasies. At least it's fun to shitpost.

>>69420535
Dude it's been 10 years. Her sister is better anyway.

>>69421082
*cums in you*

>>69414324
> completely harmless and benign interactions
> defended herself after they one sidedly slandered her in the termination
> they intentionally overlapped her first gaming stream (neopets, which she wasn't allowed to play while in niji)
suuure

>>69421074
It's not very convincing coming from a sister. I also wonder what that makes Elira and the other female livers. Does that mean they lied about not bullying Selen? Are you sure you can argue this kind of contradiction?

>>69418438
why do you hate Doki? unlike a certain cat she hasn't shown any malice, especially not through her BPD.

>>69414464
I mean, Aqua thought Rushia overlapping her timeslot was bullying soooo...

so we're supposed to take the bug's word when she says she was bullied by the big mean mainlander Enna, but when she says she has BPD suddenly she needs a doctorate degree from Hopkins? please just make some sense, is she believable or not?

>>69421082
>clearly thought she had something to lose if she played with
maybe she couldnt get perms from corporate fast enough for a spontaneus play date?
captcha: HRXD

>>69421209
To be fair, Rushia might actually have been considering what's come out.

>>69419511
>And your source for your claim that she was bullied?
the documents released by nijiEN. did you forget about those already?

>>69421210
We'd been over this already.
See
>>69418809
>>69419025
And the whole reply chain that came after.

>>69420761
>A truck bed isn't virgin
>A 6,2 fit guy like me is virgin
It's over

>>69421165
>they intentionally overlapped her first gaming stream (neopets, which she wasn't allowed to play while in niji)
Why is this stupid shit even a talking point? I thought she wanted to put it all in the past, yet she cancelled a planned stream part just to catch a niji stream live

>>69420895
>t. Woman

>>69421209
kek

>>69421209
Aqua is part of Rushia's utaite clique according to the leaked logs from the mafu shitstorm, so it very might have well been reasonable to assume that given other things that happen between them behind the scenes.

>>69421338
thats not what happened

>>69412104
It seems like 4chan finally realized bullying people for his or her protected characteristics is a wrong thing to do.

>>69421338
They shadowdropped a slander stream on her, everyone was talking about it. It's not a surprise she would react to it and not be in the mood to continue streaming.

>>69421042
>Both sides can't be bad

>>69421338
>when they shit into your soup, just eat around the shit
The stream wasnt cancelled, it was interrupted.
There was clearly emotional distress and urgency enough to end stream.

>>69421401
Selen isn't a lolcow
She's not using her mental illness for attention, the only people using her mental illness to do anything are nijisisters

>>69421441
yep, only a limited amount of time to really milk it

>>69421411
Did she break rules? Yes.
Was that enough reason to terminate her? Yes.
But the whole "she a schizo liar with bpd, etc, etc." is were the argument of neutrality starts breaking down.

>>69421368
Nah just a severely low test cuck. He's trying to deny that she has a boyfriend after all. The reason there are so many trannies these days is because modern incels have such low test that their brains are functionally feminine.

>>69421470
>Selen isn't a lolcow

>>69421242
>>69421388
> still trying

>>69421514
> not a single timestamp

>>69421517
Trying what? I stated a literal fact.

>>69421476
>milking
Ending a 200k viewer stream to talk to legal and make a tweet
You are looping, the only part that matters is niji wrecking their reputation.

>>69421514
you're a lolcow

>>69421401
Being mentally ill don't give you the right to be a retarded without consequences
When I was 7-8 years old a mentally ill guy on my class sometimes said shit to me, one day he pushed me so I threw him in the trash bin, nowadays you can barely distinguish him from a normal person, mentally ill people get more mentally ill because faggots enable it
And he didn't hold a grudge since he knew he was wrong, holding their hands whatever they do some shit is the way to make their retardation bigger

>>69421388
Are sister really so fucking desperate they are going for the Aqua bullied Rushia route? You know that image was made as a joke right?

>>69421514
[citation needed]

Well, looks like the sisters left, defeated once again.
I don't think they've had a single win on /vt/ since this whole thing started.

>>69421514
I don't remember #1 and #2, but I do recall the tournament they played with Selen/bonbon/Ban Hada and more than Selen, Bonbon the one having a menhera episode so I'd wager some of those first breakdowns were very influenced by bonbon

Reminder:
Enna claims to be a virgin to appeal to her femcel audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l1LhoVKBUw

But Enna has dated and moved in for more than a year with multiple boyfriends and fakes being a femcel for viewer engagement.
https://streamable.com/52f2jr

Also Enna craves BWC and fucked Kyo during their offcollab
https://streamable.com/qj593c

>>69421514
>tfw vox uses the money sisters donate to him to buy his irl gf dinners and presents

absolute cuckoldry

>>69421698
Anon they just brought up Rushia being bullied Aqua. I feel like bringing up Rushia as a fact when trying to also shit on a mental ill woman is an auto loss

>>69421514
>performance anxiety in tournaments is apparently lolcow

The only actual breakdown out of all of these was the kill race stream, which was pretty hard to watch desu. There was a huge shit going on at the time where crazy fans were hyping her up as the next big esports pro or whatever, and then redditors and tiktok kids were trying to "fight back" to shut her down and criticize her day in, day out. So she staged a kill race to show that she wasn't perfect and expected to lose. In the end, it didn't really do much and she just sounded broken.

She really hates playing in tournaments, but she's trying to at least get used to it for her fans.

>>69421690
you see streaming a game at the same time as someone else is streaming is the same as a group doing a character assassination stream against the person they drove to commit unhappy at the same time as she tries to return to her normal life

>>69421773
That's just an hail mary, I doubt they anything about it other the general context.

>>69421690
You didn't even know that they were in the same clique behind the scenes until a month ago, so what exactly do you know to judge for a fact that there wasn't at least that sort of vibe between them?

>>69421411
>both sides ism

>>69421470
Yeah, it's like discrimination is actually wrong and harmful.

>>69421793
MGR stream was one of the biggest lolcow moments of the entire branch.

>>69421919
where is the argument

>>69422029
Not a counterargument though, just irony.

>>69421698
Sisters are straight up saying "Do have proof of bullying?!?!?!" every fucking thread like it wasn't the company itself that brought it up unprompted for no reason in an official statement. It's so fucking weird they fight on the front that she was the one who said all of these things when every single fucking thing has been the company randomly throwing people under the bus says stupid shit first for reason.
Bro can we hire some actual real monkeys at the company because I think they would do a better fucking job because at least they can't write English and incriminate themselves for no reason.

>>69412104
Reminder that bullying for Rushia was streaming at the same time as her.
The mentally ill shouldn't be trusted.

>Sister now going the route of
>You see Rushia was crazy you can't trust anyone that has any mental illnesses at all!
Sisters you don't want to take this route, it's very dumb and everyone will shit on you.

>>69422128
ergo I will not trust you

>>69421338
Posts like these are making me think most of sister raiders have given up, and the remaining raiders left are mostly third parties. Third parties who actually no idea of the situation or even timeline of events. Just opportunists chasing the money of those delusional diehard Nijifans who have been paying for people to play defense on Nijisanji's (really just Luxiem's) behalf.

>>69421972
>one of the biggest lolcow moments of the entire branch.
Not even fucking close with some of other people who do much stupider shit like vox or Finana

>>69422127
The burder of proof lies on those who make the claim. It was Selen who said she wasn't going to make the statement about bullying public if the company didn't comply with her demands.

>>69422263
>It was Selen who said she wasn't going to make the statement about bullying public if the company didn't comply with her demands.
So you have poor of this right cause you said the "The burder of proof lies on those who make the claim"

>>69422235
either that or their last ditch effort is to just deny reality and hope some poor randos are dumb enough to believe them

>>69422263
get someone who can write in english to type up your post and try again

>>69412299
>inb4 Niji makes their current idols take mental examinations and disclose to the public that they are mentally insane, thus concluding that they did nothing wrong in causing Selen to do an hero twice

>>69418875
>>69418683
haven't read such a dumb analysis like this in a while roru rumao even

>>69422316
>poor
I meant proof fuck my small fingers.

>>69422382
>Niji
>idols

>>69422316
Lazy nigger who can't read the notice.
>>69422371
Phone autocorrect.

>>69422235
probably just purely brainrotten retards at this point, either because they can somehow still perform hardcore mental gymnastics to defend kurosanji or because they are shitposting hard for (You)s

imagine trying to frame her as a bpd menhera schizoid.. because shes bad at losing in video games...
someone tell elira to go live.. the defense is ready

>>69422457
>Phone autocorrect
ahh yes, the banned phoneposter.

>>69419203
>and cuck her fans with Nocturnal secretly
you unicorns are really something else lmao

>>69422492
Well, the sisters are still obsessed with /here/posting because they believe we are the source of all evil according to the doxxsite and are still assblasted that the lawyer dude would rather side with the gurrat than their menhera rentry.

>>69422665
you're a self-hating unicorn if you're denying it instead of praising it
I guess you subconsciously realize that it's better than being a cuck

>>69419059
>Selen directed a harassment campaign
No, that was Nijisanji, Selen never made anything public. Keep up.

>>69412692
You are actually retarded

10 niji sheckals have been deposited to your account

>>69422805
no retard, I'm not single and I watch vtubers for entertainment. and my gf loves Henya too

Sisters sure are retarded

>>69422878
>trust me bro, i just don't want to accept that an e-girl has a boyfriend because..........uhh anyway unicorns are stupid lol

I see they went thru route of pretending to do unicorn vs homo beggars route to shitpost both sides. I mean that works. Those retard slap fights of both people preetning they give a fuck about Vtubers are funny though so they can shitpost for (you)s is funny though.

>>69412241
>4Chan is Le ebin asshole of the internet for shitting
The damage Encyclopædia Dramatically did to this site can not be overstated

Reminder: /vt/ was constantly shitting on Selen before for her menhera outburts. No one is buying your white knight cuck defense of her. At most you can convince people both her and Niji were retarded and deserved each other.

>>69422942
*cums on you*

>>69413152
What if I do blackface?

>>69423068
Did you finally realize that this isn't really about her?

>>69423068
Tell that to the sisters hyperfocusing on the selen side then. And /here/posting for some weird menhera reasons.

>>69423068
Selen vs niji is basically palestine vs israel for me. Yeah I'll support her in destroying niji since the opportunity has presented itself but I have no affection for her.

>>69422942
why would I care whether someone on the other side of the planet has a partner or not? I don't plan on leaving Europe any time soon.

>>69423264
you obviously care since you replied to refute it
I can't read your mind, so you tell me why you care

>>69423068
No, she was our e-sports queen. FPS vtuber of the year. We always loved her and secretly we all have been watching her streams. Gamer girl power!

>>69423305
you argue like a woman

>>69423359
>projection
please, spend another 10 minutes telling me more about how you totally don't care

>>69423305
I'm merely trying to figure out how unicuck "logic" works, like how do you expect to actually date a streamer with hundreds of thousands of fans as a kissless virgin?
>>69423359
incels are super feminine

>>69423411
*unzips dick*
project this lmao

>>69423473
Your dick has a zipper?

verification not required.

>>69423423
>why do you have a negative opinion of criminals if they didn't target you personally?
leave it to a cuck to not understand actually disliking something

>>69423525
Disliking nijisisters is pretty easy.

>>69412104
Dramabird is mentally ill which is why she breaks the rules and harasses people, then turns around and accuses them of bullying her when they ask her to stop.
Mental illness is not something that happens in a vacuum. It's not something that occurs in addition to everything else, it's something that colors all interactions they have. It makes her paranoid and causes her to lash out and mistreat the people around her, especially when she believes they have wrongs her, or she believes that they could secretly hold a grudge against her. Genuine harassment is no laughing matter, but there is no evidence that dramabird was harassed, except her vague claims and accusations. There is no point when you can take the claims of the mentally ill seriously or at face value. This counts even more so for court cases, where they try to argue that a person doesn't have a good grip on reality. They do this for all sorts of mental problems, and on the scale of things her mental problems are much more egregious than the typical depression of suicidal ideation.
People just want to believe dramabird because it's convenient to attacking and hating nijisanji. That's all well and good, but that doesn't make her reliable in any sense, nor does the fact she made complaints or allegations prove any of those things. Nobody should just take her claims at face value, especially not niji haters. When it gets shown that she was lying then supporting an argument against nijisanji will fall through unless you have something more concrete. At that point, you're going to see all the support turn, and every new niji-anti will decide to go back to being a nijisister again.

>>69423068
Why are so fixated on Selen and not on the company with the history of fucking over their livers? Are you formerly in love with her?

>>69423525
funny how you didn't actually address my question. maybe deep down you realize you're unreasonable, which is good, it's the first step to fix your shituation.

i know why Selen tried to kill herself twice.
And i know who did it.

Nothing personnell, Slampig.
go back to pony roleplay with your groomer bull.

>>69423621
holy esl

>>69423633
I directly addressed your question by flat out telling you the basis of my stance
meanwhile you're the one avoiding my question and still can't tell me how you can pretend to "not care" while still replying after all this time
if you weren't a cuck I'd call this a woman moment, since you're just running on emotional fumes at this point

>>69423621
A bit late to drop a big bag of shit and diarrhea from your doxxsite on a thread that's autosaging, don't you think, cunt?

>>69418351
>87%
Nah, it's 50/50 either she is lying or not

>>69423621
NijiEN is mentally ill

>>69418351
This would actually be slightly believable if not for Niji's history

>>69423621
Yeah good luck with that Millie

>>69423736
no, you ever told me how you plan on getting in a relationship with a streamer who has hundreds of thousands of fans better looking and richer than you'll ever be, KHV anon. until you answer that you have no basis to call anyone cucks.

>>69423621
>Dramabird is mentally ill
based. Total nijinigger death. Death by a menhera out for blood

>>69423068

Last nugget, fresh from the mines before the thread goes.
The sisters are mad at us again.

>>69423899
>actual brainlet
I don't dream of interacting with streamers in the same way I don't dream of interacting with criminals I read on the news before deciding that I don't like them
I can't believe that analogy was too much for you to comprehend, sorry I'll try speaking to you like a child going forward
also, funny how you didn't actually address my question. maybe deep down you realize you're unreasonable, which is good, it's the first step to fix your shituation :)

Lebbitors are literally admitting Amberbird is mentally ill now. The evidence is too strong to deny it.

>>69424037
>I don't dream of interacting with streamers
then why does it matter whether they have partners or not?

>>69424031
2+2 c han

>>69424031
I dont think you're emotionally fragile, I dont think you have emotions at all. I think you're stupid and easily manipulated for fun

>>69424042
Not every mental illness is bpd. You should know that by now, sister dealing with your own mental issues.

>>69422128
But normally you would avoid confrontation if someone was being menhera, whereas if you're a bully then you're already comfortable personally attacking them and just keep doing it.

>>69424097
>han
zhangs self reporting AGAIN

>>69424088
>PLEASE let me lie about it since you don't care

>>69424111
Is that a sister? Do you even know why you post here on 4chan?

>>69424031
baka sea monkey's are too stupid to understand western gigachad brains

>>69424136
>she said it was BPD in her bio but it's something else! (I have no proof btw)

>>69424031
holy projection
>>69424173
where did I lie, unicuck?

>>69424042
I can see Dokibird organizing a fundraiser for MHA. Where does it state it's for her, sis?

>>69424201
BIG DRAGON PENIS

>>69424042
Let's see
>Mentally ill getting help, has positive community around for support
compared to
>Mentally ill gets kicked on their face, called a terrible person, continuously defame, lose friends, gets betrayed, spread hate
The way you talk means you choose the worse option (the 2nd if not obvious for a retard like you)

>>69424088
I don't like dishonest people, you know, the entire point of this argument which started from a post saying she lies to her viewers
and that's what, the 3rd or 4th time you've avoided addressing my question? you're just a projecting cuck at this point, not wasting any more time on you, I accept your concession

>>69424201
see
>>69418809
and everything follwing it, then cope more sister.

>>69424031
Why are they like this?

>>69424330
It's more evidence than whatever other bullshit you diagnose her with, virtue signaling ledditor.

>>69424322
>you've avoided addressing my question?
except I answered the first time, you just pretend I didn't.

>>69424031
It is exceedingly easy to bully niji sisters, yes.

>>69424454
I'm not diagnosing her with anything. I admit I don't know her medical records, and neither do you.

>>69424597
Ledditors are admitting she's mentally ill though.

>>69424628
you can't show me ONE chuuba that isn't mentally ill.

>>69424628
and?

>>69424628
Sane people don't try to kill themselves. That doesn't mean I know exactly what her problem is.

>>69424628
>she's mentally ill
That's a vtuber minimum requirement

>>69424653
>>69424708
There's levels of this shit. She's a Miguel Gato tier menhera.

I miss the times where you could shit on Selen for being a Apex nigger cry baby, now suddenly she's a martyr

>>69412241
Game is truly gone innit.

>>69424792
Mix of virtue signaling leddit tourists + people using her to shit on Niji, as if shtting on Niji is anything special and not just a boring normie opinion now.

>>69424770
no she's am Aqua Minato tier menhera in a shit company

>>69424770
Enna literally said even if she killed someone she's sure they'd still support her. There's no bottom to menhera abyss.

>>69424770
>>69424792
>>69424812
>>69424848
you lost lmao
go suck more Riku cock
enjoy your steam cards

>>69421514
>it's weird to get angry when you underperform at a video game
How is this proof of anything?

So crazy that they thought sending every liver in EN after a girl who already said she tried to kill herself because of bullying would be a PR win. They literally showed us what they've been doing to her and think is acceptable.

>>69425209
>leave the lying BPD menhera alone
They have every right to try to debunk her claims if it's bullshit.

>>69425359
Proof of bpd next thread sister?

>>69425456
Proof of Dookie's bullying claims next thread Dookiesister?

>>69424770
>She's a Miguel Gato tier menhera.
no, she isn't. michael is actually malicious.
Verification not required.

>>69425359
WHAT CLAIMS?
only NijiEN made claims you dumb retarded stupid ape monkey nigger

>>69425497
It's between her and niji. If you're going to argue she has bpd, you should have proof since you bitches love talking about receipts.

>>69425546
The claim in her document? But that wasn't public. Soooo not sure why that matters much.

>>69425546
>>69422457

>>69422263
Niji made the claim.

>>69425692
Third time's the charm:
>>69425546
>>69422457

>>69425795
Meant for: >>69425750

>>69423621
>accuses them of bullying her when they ask her to stop.
Doki has never publicly done that.

>>69425692
>>69425795
May I see the claims Dokibird made and not something Nijisanji said?

>>69425844
Niji has made claims about what Selen said to them. Where's the proof?

>>69412753
Niji keeps saying "please side with Selen we are so awful that even if you don't care you must side with her" and I have a hard time resisting. I don't care enough to resist the pressure Niji is exerting on me.

>>69426095
weird how she never denied making those claims. explained how she isn’t perfect and said a lot about moving on but never a “wrong” or “that’s a lie” or “I did not say that”