/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

fauna

boy what a year

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>>69347969
Captain, it's February

>>69347942
>Anyer OP
Bless this thread

Now that the dust has settled why are Shiori and Nerissa waiting until after their anniversary to collab with the homos?

>>69347969
We're barely halfway into February, captain.

Wait, is the homo 3D today? Is Gura overlapping it?

Your oshi is able to pull better numbers than a grifting trend chasing lawyer right Anon?

>Rick Steves watchalong at EU hours
It might actually work...
Assuming my quick google search is correct about it being a show praising European nations

i love kanade

guess what?
Your oshis tits are too damn small

>IMG_XXXX

We love Yagoo's daughter, Ms. Anya "Stuffs" Melfissa, in this thread.

Veibae came back for about 57 minutes for her return stream and then fucked off again.

>>69348029
She might if she streams for longer than 2 hours. Gura is 10AM JST and the homos are on 12PM JST.

>>69348088
But my oshi is noel...

>>69348088
You are saying it like if that was a downside

>>69348088
thats right. nerissa's tits ARE too small. im glad we agree

>>69348117
Who?

>not even 1k waiting for the shark
oof

>2022 - Luxiem
>2023 - Salome
>2024 - Dokibird
Holofags in /#/ just can't catch a break...
With all the drama tubers and the untapped mainstream audience seeing a lot of PC recommendation and shilling,
>2025 will be Pippa

>>69348088
That's not true

>>69347400
Does the shorts hashtag really guarantee a higher than average ccv or is it more up to algo chance? Because Mumei's stream would support the notion of it being a buff but it didn't seem to do anything for IRyS's usual karaoke numbers, at most 1k more than usual for an archived karaoke

And here comes the raid.

>>69348088
Flat chests are erotic

Anya board

>>69348184
The voice that still to this day Twitch indies want to copy.

>>69348123
they should double in size

>>69348088
Nah. Fauna's are just right. Especially in her 3D form

>>69348203
She's done. Chumbuds have moved on and are going to watch Doki's membership instead

>>69348088
Please cover corp make cunny fauna real

What are the pros and cons of doing an unarchived karaoke in the vertical format?

>Gura shorts karaoke
hoooooooooooooooooooooly shit bros

>>69348230
forgot image

>>69348247
>Twitch
Oh so that's why, the literal whos den when it comes to vtubers

fauna on the left

>>69348285
IRyS is a dingdong that didn't have #shorts in the title before the stream started, so it used the regular stream algo

>>69348088
I know.
She knows.
We are both pissed about it.

>>69348270
Apparently CCV is lower, but Marine seems unaffected.

>looking through random porn games on F95
>game called Corporate Slave Succubus
>reading comments and randomly come across this with 30 upvotes

Nijisanji English's currently scheduled streams

>>69348285
She fucked up and added the tag midstream. Bae was saying the tag is needed

>>69348078
I don't know about any show but Rick Steves writes pretty good travel guides and very cute town walk things, where you start at a certain place and he walks you through a town. I've done a few of them here and there over the years in Italy, France, and Germany.

Aren't vertical streams nerfed in CCV? We gonna see shitposting today

>>69348078
thing is hes an American tour operator, i know him only because i work in a heavy burger tourist point in Italy, i seriously doubt the run of the mill EUs has any clue about him, the only recognizable tour operator is EF tours, especially now that they have expanded for non-students and have those characteristic blue backpacks

>shorts karaoke

Gura doesn't wear shorts though?

>>69348342
marine is actually popular

>>69348049
Easy, she plays a button pushing game for 14k viewers, doesn't even need the grift.

>>69348368
>All Shit 18
What happened to the Golden 20?

>>69348368
Understandable, waves from Lazulight to Noctyx are bussy with AR Live prep

Imagine if you're a time traveler and you decide to spill the beans on today's state of Nijisanji in 2020 /vyt/ how hard would the meltdown be kek

>>69348230
Nene's and Ririka's vertical streams had worse numbers then their usual streams at the same times. "The algorithm" has become too much of a mess to understand, even inside YouTube. They goose it to boost/hide things, but it doesn't obey for long.

>>69348285
She changed the title to include the # 30 minutes into the stream so it probably didn't do anything

>>69348368
IlunaGODS carrying this shit branch on it's back

>>69348270
>pros
More subs gained, particularly during jp hours
>cons
Can't fucking put it on the background if using phone. Generally lower in ccv.

>>69348230
Tbf. IRyS is a cute retard that added the #shorts tag to her stream after she had already been singing for a while. So i dont think she was in the shorts algorithm. From what we've seen with the JPs, only Marine does well with her #shorts ccv. I think only Mumei and Bae have done a proper #shorts karaoke so far. The subs gains are crazy good though. Look at Bae getting 4k with one stream. Thats the real prize

>>69348088
just the way I like it

Shorts aren't about CCV anyway, more just subs farming.

Shiori still stuck in the 2 view mentality

>>69348088
I prefer it that way. I like ribs

>>69348088
I know, it's tragic

sub-20k for the shark tonight

>>69348491 (me)
>then

>>69348088
I agree, Moom should have bigger tits

https://www.twitch.tv/mega64podcast
are thesr good numbers for the bois?

>>69346381
https://youtu.be/lf5bQIVWIK90
Are you an actual idiot?

>>69348368
>First 5 waves barely stream
Don't know what that mean but that's strange

>>69348368
Some day the schedule will just be 12 Scarle streams

>Gura JOP baiting with her title
New manechan?

>>69348587
das a nice moom

>>69348088
Bullshit, Sora has exactly the optimal size! They are even a bit too big

>>69348522
>The subs gains are crazy good though
This is the real reason I want IRyS to try out shorts again, and not forget to add the damn hashtag this time. She's been in subscription purgatory for over a year, getting even small hits in the shorts algo like Bae does would be the difference of her hitting 1 million in a month vs hitting that goal 5 months from now

>>69348368
#iamscarle?

>>69348667
Goobs is storing up wishes to terminate the homos.

>>69348604
Not clicking, take a screenshot

>>69348088
She's perfect.

>>69348413
>>69348423
Honestly, just give it correct thumbnail and stick something about watching European tour videos and it would go just fine

>>69348587
Just know that somewhere in the world, theres someone who hates you for this abomination

>>69348208
>>2023 - Salome

Who in the first 20 are the less involved with the clique? They are next

>>69348088
Agree

>>69348208
>2023
>Salome

>>69348667
she's desperate for numbers now that doki is mogging her daily

>>69348368
Dramafags lost.

>>69348230
Mumei's stream is an exception so far.
Most vertical streams have bad CCV and good views.
They also give a fuckton of subs.

>>69348357
kek

Is Gura BACK for real this time?

>>69348747
>Doesn’t know Mega64
Grim

>>69348424
I'm not so sure, Mumei got fantastic CCV on hers.
In any case, I don't mind a little shitposting, what I really want to see is if it causes a big spike in subs and I also want to see if it gets a monster VOD

vtubers should not have good fanart

>>69348707
You gotta accept that girls like IRyS and Fauna just aren't too concerned about actively growing their subs.

>>69348835
lol lmao, kek even

>>69348835
No, now fuck off.

>>69348230
>Does the shorts hashtag really guarantee a higher than average ccv or is it more up to algo chance?
Typically vertical streams are a debuff to ccv but a big buff to vod views and subs (Bae got 4k subs in 2 hours on a 5k peak stream).
Mumei's was an exception so it is a lot down to algo chance it seems

Shiori hates numbers...

>>69348864 (me)
Oh NVM, of course it won't get a monster vod, it's unarchived. I'm retarded, kek.

>>69348742

>>69348837
the average age of /vt/ is 18 anon.

>>69348368
>all people outside the clique
>all very isolated people
Yeah they have no drama buff or debuff so they can go on as normal

>>69348891
yeah mumei had 126k views the moment she went offline, imagine the final view count if it was archived.

>>69348761
Wish we could turn back time~
To the good old days~

Amiya is starting an unarchived love songs karaoke!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2KxDGHr-Jg

>>69348230
I remember all the proud chumbuds who said Gura would never play into the short-meta

>>69348810
Maybe it's just random.

jwu, qrd?

>>69348917
its good that shiori does her own thing and i am sick of pretending like its not

>>69348917
>Amazing Cultivation Simulator
Ok, I HAVE to see that.
https://youtu.be/wJxM3POU92w?si=H7DEexsqjuio63Hp

>>69348917
>Amazing Cultivation Simulator
I'm surprised she got perms for this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJxM3POU92w

>>69349044
>not a /vr/ stream
no watch

>>69349059
No you don't.

>>69349059
She has like 5 shorts already, retardGOD.

>>69348917
Shiori just wants to do what she wants with the smaller fanbase she has

>>69349086
Gura #shorts karaoke at 8pm followed by monkey seethe /here/

>>69349124
>>69349157

>>69349059
Retard pajeet

>>69348917
Holy shit holos have perms for that cultivation game?

>>69349170
Lots of copebuds proclaimed that she wasn't numberfag and would never play into that cancerous meta. Guess they were wrong.
>>69349199
We are talking about the shorts streaming meta retard.

>>69348917
This is why I don't really feel that bad for Shiori being the runt. She clearly wants to do her own autism shit and cover clearly hired her to do creatividad stuff with Henma.

>>69348917
>Brunch collab
I like
>Amazing cultivation simulator
Surely a debuff game as all peak autism sseth kino games likely are, but I might watch, I'm curious

>>69348917
>Amazing Cultivation Simulator
Oh god oh no oh god

>>69348917
sseth game
white people watchalong
two architect streams
...

>>69349059
Anything to keep her cucks from leaving. It was evident when she chose to kill Advent momentum

>>69348917
I give her a pass because she plays weird shit that's interesting, unlike Kronii's boring indieslop

These poor poor sods...

>>69349202
90% of the monkey seethe in this thread comes from ennacuck no-lifeing as our thread jester

>>69349044
Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d75M0ylK_oI
yt algo push me 1 view cunny

>>69349377
Gura's timeslot. Also braindead brats chose this timeslot for her.

>>69349377
How can Bae move up the list from everyone's 6-8th favorite to 2nd or 3rd?

>>69349377
shark infested waters

>>69349377
I mean at least it's people who deserve it

>>69349460
stop with her homolust
surgery on her vocal folds to fix her voice
stop pretending that she doesnt know things

>>69349460
She can't. She won't. She would have to stop being Bae.

>>69349377
God that's actually really bad luck because both of those streams are buff content, I actually would have likely watched either of those.
I know people always just say "Gura's slot, beware" but it's tough because her utilization of the slot is under 50% even when active these days. It's a real risk-reward kinda play to try to use 5PM PST, it's like flip a coin and either have wide-open primetime or get worst-case scenario EN overlap.
If I were Bae and Nerissa I'd unironically just reschedule those streams to later in the day, maybe I'm too shameless

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

The same game played by Pomu in 2022 and Tenma in 2024

>>69349460
Stop collabing with homos and spam GFE ASMR. It's that easy.

>>69349384
> /#/ is his oshi
You think if we made /#/ merch, he would buy it?

>>69349377
They should move to 22:00 to overlap the homos.

>>69349570
why not just push it by an hour? there's only Mori there

>>69349614
ennacuck is too poor to afford hobbies outside of shitposting 16 hours a day.

>Kiss from a Rose
Man, Amiya is starting strong

>>69349377
watching Nerissa with shark's stream as bgm is a good idea

>barely 1k waiting
this is going to flop hard

>>69349377
Jokes on you, Gura being present buffs numbers of everyone involved even during overlap

>>69349124
>Are you easily entertained by seeing numbers get higher?
This game is made for /#/.

>>69349581
She's basically 1k floor now. If she was in Niji EN she'd probably be top 6-7 out of the girls.

>>69349939
Tell Kaela about that game. Do it, coward.

>>69349961
I think she compares to Rosemi

>>69348088
A-Anon.....

>>69349819
I think she would really benefit from joining Phase as an Invader, if she could do some without them trying to confiscate her model like with Yuri. She just needs some visibility and exposure to incline. No perms bullshit either with Phase. Is she just that determined to stay indie or emotionally attached to her model?

>>69348329
Fauna's size complex...

>>69349939
I used to reference that line all the time back in 2021.

Gura's first 3 view stream incoming.

gura and mori
fauna and kronii
fuwawa and shiori
the 2 sexiest from each en gen

>>69350073
Rosemi has a little higher floor but it's not too bad of a comparison.

>>69350120
>Main content and joy depends entirely on blatantly ignoring the issue of perms
Nah, joining any corpo would be a terrible idea for her

>>69348587
I'm saving this because it's so fucking awful. Thanks.

>>69350120
Tell me her story. Why should I watch her?

>>69348587

>>69350243
No EN small corpos bother with perms.

>>69349202
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Want to see grim, check out this chat speed for Phase JP.

>>69350224
You were right until the end

>>69349579
Hi Kanade poster your oshi is cute, bought a membership like you suggested but busy with work until monday, will enjoy then have a good day

>>69349022
I'm hoping Gura waits like an hour to delete the vod tonight. I just want a glance at those sweet nubile numbers.

>>69350197
DYRBI?

>>69350300
Then what is even the point of them

>>69350319
sugoi... I love how you can see the little spikes when the raided people say "<WHOEVER> RAAAAAAAAAID!!!!!" and then immediately close the window and go do something else

>>69350266
She's a good singer, that's pretty much it. I only watch her karaokes. She used to be in Tsunderia until it folded. Pretty sure she's a hag or hag+ given her tastes in games and music. her other content is playing obscure retro games or abandon/shovelware.

>>69350230
except for the big-corpo event buff (outfits, etc.) nijien is really close to being phase's #-twin

>>69348049
>lawyer talks about law
>grifting
Can somebody explain why sisters are using this line of attack on this guy? Ignoring him would honestly be a smarter move than constantly bringing him up and trying to say he is a grifter for talking about a potential lawsuit and contract violations. It would be like if an Indian cooking youtuber did a video on Riku's curry, then you claim they are grifters. That is the entire basis of the channel.

>>69350120
>joining Phase
I know you're upset about Beryl, but this is going too far anon...

>>69348917
I'm really starting to like Shiori.

>>69350224
Wrong. Its
Gura and Ina
Fauna and IRyS
Mococo

They should move to Twitch and start over.

>>69350420
Promotion and exposure + merchandising and networking, same as any other corpo. Getting into Phase is probably a +500 floor for most people, Idol a bit lower maybe 300? The smaller the corpo the less beneficial it is generally, but easier to get into.

>>69350399
>1hr
yeah ain't happening, but even 5 seconds is enough to glance into greatness just fast refresh when she goes offline (mumei timing didn't need to be that tight she took almost a minute to private)

>>69349124
Shiori is based

>>69350523
Fauna isn't flat tho

>>69350120
She likes being indie and yes she's attached to her model
She enjoys being in charge of her self and her brand, it means a lot to her

>>69350420
For joining a corpo? Being able to be part of an existing brand. Also Phase does do merch shit for them

For perms autism? Only Jap corpos need to worry about that because Jap video game companies only go after other japs

>>69350120
FUCK OFF PHASE FAG. STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM AMIYA.

>>69350266
She plays old games, like actually old games
Really cute spider wife
Does some game dev and pixel art streams once in a while
A bit of a dork
Doesn't swear

>>69350627
Nyo =3

There had been like 5 homo posts on leddit today and they all got removed

>>69350445
Crazy how they went from beating Holo EN in 2 months to struggling to beat a 3.5k Pippa stream with 31 different Niji EN members most days.

>>69350120
Amiya is probably at the level where she's big enough she doesn't really need to join a small corpo. Also she does her own merch which is the biggest benefit of joining one.

So this guy is explicitly advocating for "adult man with young male child" pornography.

Is this really ok?

>>69350465
He's damaging nijisanji's reputation >>69350465

>>69350429
I see she played Star Trek and Blade Runner point and click games. Very weird taste but i like it. I'll give her a chance.

>>69350465
>sisters
The "grifter" term is a braided insult meant to diminish some people's impact in the scene.
It's not just sisters, anons here used it even for people who have been vtubing for 7+ years, and other cases where people MADE the industry they were "grifting".
In this case it also doesn't make sense because, duh, he's a lawyer. He works on a case by case bases. By definition he's not grifting.

>>69350670
owari da...

>Rasputin
Amiya wwwww

>>69350707
yeah

My super sweet former 2view oshi is singing before her cover of Suisei's "Ghost" is released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxUmM-I6DI

>doki waiting room at 4 hours - 3k+
>shark waiting room at 4 hours - 1k
grim

>>69350567
She feeds the other flatties with her mediums

>>69350670
That's good

>>69348891
I mean what the hell is that gonna do for an unarchived karaoke then? No VOD, doubt they're gonna sub in the 1-2 hours she's doing in it. Looks like Gura is doing the worst of both worlds here

>>69350707
Yaoi is gay, but there's nothing wrong with this.

>>69350319
What a brilliant idea to expand the JP branch when your dominant company culture is anything but Japanese. Should've just sent Nasa and Iori to some JP small corpo that can take care of them better.

>>69350670
They're going to raid it when one stays up and cry incel unicorn blah blah bs

>>69350836
she gets mogged by dokibird for a reason. shark got lucky. doki has talent.

>>69348917
what is this meme? Are there more?

>>69350707
Sisters harassed Zaion for being a shotacon. Double standards for the dude?

>>69350913
That's the chippi chippi chappa chappa cat.

>>69348917
It's great, isn't it?

>>69350465
>>69350729
Real lawyers don't go onto youtube and talk about internet drama. Lawyers get paid well enough that they don't need to do that. If they are doing that then they're trying to milk whatever they can from dumbasses that will pay them money to talk about whatever their autism fixation of the month is

If a cooking channel suddenly started doing multiple videos on Riku's curry then yes he would be grifiting. He doesn't care about vtubers, he doesn't care about Riku, and he most importantly doesn't care about Selen. He cares about milking the situation for your retarded money and then moving on to the next internet scandal to make money off of.

When referring to Vox, you must always use his full name and title, Le Retard De Vox Akuma.

>>69348090
That face just radiates “lack of brain activity”

>>69351010
Bingo

>>69350899
You're starving for (you)s...here you go, bud.

>>69350973
no that's the "huh" cat

>>69350913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVWeRnStdSA

>>69351046
But this drooling retard can at least communicate in 3 languages

Here is an update on that
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH
chart.

Some comments

1) Hololive (the japanese branch)
They're climbing down from their record setting January and now sit at a "more modest" 11.9k and, based on previous years, still have a few more weeks of downward trajectory before the big event of the year

2) HoloEN
The EN girls SOARED back into the 8k line and, despite also being down from their magnificent January, they seem to have returned to their pre summer 2022 heights

3) Hololive DEV_IS
After a January peak, same downward trajectory as Hololive. It remains to be seen where their baseline will settle

4) Nijisanji (the japanese branch)
Also like Hololive, they're climbing back their (much more modest) January high and back around the 3.5k line

5) VSPO
Same as the remaining japanese branches, local high in january, downward trajectory

6) HoloID
Returning to their 2k line baseline after a small buff in january

7) NijiEN
Unrepeatable circumstances, eh? They're stable at the 1.5k line, a modest but visible incline from their summer of 2023 low

8) After burning through their new gen debut buff, they're back below the 1k line for their average

>>69351203
So HoloEN is the winner oorah

>>69350836
They will sub during the stream, I meant Bae got 4k subs during the 2 hour stream.
But otherwise yeah an archived karaoke seems a better choice

>>69351203
>no doki

>>69350913
yes
>>69348917
The Japanese finally got cat memes because of Tiktok.

>>69351010
>Real lawyers don't go onto youtube and talk about internet drama. Lawyers get paid well enough that they don't need to do that.
QFT.

>>69351276
>Branch
Anon...

>>69351203
>8)
bruh

>>69351010
Are these "real lawyers" in the room here with us?

>>69351203
>homoEN sub 1k
What about homoJP?

>>69351203
>>69351373
kek, Holostars EN, somehow I forgot a line there

Will a chuuba that started out as a vtuber ever get 10 millions? How long would it take Gura?

Everyone is talking about Niji being the blackest company out there and... wait, what's that....
>HERE COMES WACTOR WITH THE CHAIR, THEY WON'T LET THAT SPOT BE TAKEN FROM THEM
https://twitter.com/HimeragiAgeha/status/1758908691385045252
https://twitter.com/NemurimeCharo/status/1758911135829610674
https://twitter.com/KobiUruru/status/1758909473354387877
https://twitter.com/TenjoYuiga6/status/1758909462377885880
>Forced to do stuff not included in their contracts
>amount of work not proportionate to what they were paid
>sekuhara and pawahara
>forced to say stuff they didn't believe
>told not to take prescribed medication

>>69351203
HoloEN entering blue ocean market.

>>69351010
>Real lawyers don't go onto youtube and talk about internet drama
They do though. Not because they need the money, but because it's fun. Lawyers are also humans and enjoy dramafagging just like the next guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqgAiSJuLX4

>>69350836
knowing Gura, she probably just wants to try it since its new and easy enough to do. She also watches Mumei karaokes and that stupid bug that happened at the start of her members asmr where she goes vertical might have triggered her lone braincell. Frankly, I just want some good songs and giggles and stupid trivia

>>69351203
with all the heavy hitters of holoJP rolling out and sankisei still half out of commission the average is still wonderful, EN has held the line better than i thought with the many low ball stream we had this past week+ we'll see if no Faumei will hit the average further

>>69351489
BUY. AN. AD.

>>69351443
Don't worry, in 4-5 years time she'll go full kids channel, with corpo handling all the toy unboxing streams and Pokemon collab animations.
100Mil subs guaranteed.

>>69351203
>sub1k
disband this waste of resources already

>>69351475
Every lawyer on YouTube is literally a professional failure.

>>69351203
Do we expect that the next month will see a drop for NijiEN, or is it too uncertain given the combo of infrequent streams depending on the channel and the wild swings of drama buffs/debuffs?

>>69351408
>What about homoJP?
Here it is
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH, HOLOSTARS ONLY

The short summary should be
>JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!

>>69351532
>He wants to see it all the time.
Disgusting. Stop giving them ideas, you filth.

>>69351010
>Real lawyers don't go onto youtube and talk about internet drama. Lawyers get paid well enough that they don't need to do that
Sub-midwit take. Only libs think everybody does everything for money.
Is he taking advantage of current internet drama to draw attention to himself? Obviously. Performers, e.g. lawyers, love being looked at. But he *knows about the drama* because he's a /here/ nerd.

>>69351443
doki. her sub growth is insane. even faster than 2020 shark.

Amiya is planning to apply to Phase Connect

>>69351203
>Unrepeatable circumstances
You keep using that term, I do not think it means what you think it means.

>>69351203
>Hololive
Lookin' good, both JP and EN. Very happy with EN holding that well. JP was obviously going to fall after that history-making January but still, unbeatable.
>NijiEN
Unrepeatable circumstances that are actually just the new permanent status quo... Kino... Perpetual Drama Works
>HolostarsEN
Can't seem to make anything happen, not sure what's going to prop that branch up once they stop doing biannual gen releases. 3D debuts, for a while, perhaps? I assume they're done with the ACCELERATE gen spam, because the optics of passing HoloEN in active talent count when each individual talent has so little productivity by comparison would be fucking terrible.

>>69351454
weren't they the only vtubers left affiliated with wactor? kek

>>69351454
TOP FUCKING KEK, Wactor took the attention Nijisanji is getting in a very personal way

>>69351585
Hey, at least homoEN numbers are not quite as bad as homoJP.

>>69351585
Jesus. A few more months and the EN failures will match their JP counterparts.

>>69351454
Well. The thing is that even if wactor is the vantaBLACK of black company vtuber shenanigans, they simply are too small to matter for most people.

gura's waiting room looks like a 15-20k peak. she shouldn't have went with a vertical stream. this is going to kill her channel.

>>69351454
do not redeem the meds

>>69351585
Honest question:

What's wrong with Holostars, as a concept or as a set of branches?

I'm about to parrot investors and ask, why do NijiJP's men have such higher chances at success than the Stars do? If the problem were simply and solely that there isn't a demand for male chuubas, there wouldn't be any success outside of Cover's attempts either.

>>69351203
I was a bit worried that EN would fall a bit more then that, and might over the rest of feb, but flatlining over 8k is promising.
It's so insane that 12k is now a more modest line for Holo now

>>69351608
Phasetards deserve to be shit on.

>>69351454
so they ALL left? based.

It's getting too late for retweets and frame...

>>69351733
It's mostly the members, most of them lack the drive to change themselves to pursue their ambitions
Not to say they all lack a drive, just most of them

cute

>numbers
Doki has at least 2k viewers in mengen.
Highest like count for a mengen post was 4.7k likes.

>>69351454
I kneel

>>69351733
Women don't want to watch men they perceive as loser and underdogs.
>>69351728
Shut up retard

>>69351728

>>69351733
Western wokeness

>>69351806
anon she tweeted yesterday about not being able to stream much don't do this to yourself

>>69351855
Yawn. That’s less than Gura even when she was inactivate

>>69351692
Thank you for pointing out to everyone that you cannot read a graph nor can observe the difference in the slopes between two lines anon.

>>69351893
>Western wokeness
>StarsJP
Seek help

>>69351728

>>69348117
It's funny how the twitch thread has become even shittier somehow ever since she announced her "return".

>>69351203
How can HoloJP only have 12k? To me it seems like pretty much any girl can get 10k there other than the giga shitters and be honest, how hard is Robocco and Matsuri really dragging JP down?
Hell what are the TRUEJP numbers (dev_is included)?

>>69348117
she's too busy with her boyfriend to be a Vtuber, that's why chuubas shouldn't date.

>>69351585

>>69351203
when i made fun of you before for writing unrepeatable circumstances i didnt think that nijien would pull off this kind of drama
heres to more unrepeatable circumstances in march

>>69351621
If Flayon goes on vacation for a month the Holostars English overall average would improve by 200-300 or so I imagine.

>>69351733
they are all boring

>>69351581
Seems far too unpredictable with the constant drama and graduations. Like are their bigger members actually going to start streaming again, will they retaliate again, who is graduating/terminated next...

>>69351602
I have never seen an ad.

>Beatles
Man, Amiya's karaoke really is pretty varied despite love topic

>>69351733
First movers advantage coupled with the fact that the absolute majority of Cover's consumer base doesn't care about male vtubers. For those who like watching male vtubers there's not a lot of reason to primarily watch the homos when NijiEN exists (tho there is some overlap with events) and the majority of the Hololive audience would rather watch some random girl than give any of them a view. There's also the problem that the quality of all 23 active homos goes from very bad to barely passable, with Roberu only being the top homo because of how hard he leeched from Tamaki's group.

>>69351855
flopshark mogged

>>69352013
holy sex

>>69348917
a non-game advent collab? damn nice if so

>>69350120
if you want to cripple Amiya by making her join a company that will ban 90% of her content, and lose her unique Mashiro Yuki model for a more generic one, sure.

>>69351933
No U

>>69351990
There are a lot of more members there, and you are just blinded by those who pull 20-30k regularly. 10k or around that is more common, but they have their share of like 7-8k too

>>69351733
NijiJP got lucky. They were able to sneak into that space when livestreaming on YouTube was taking off alongside covid restrictions to essentially snag the 'male streamer' slot that was open and make it theirs, something that was long conquered by male fleshies on Twitch (and the mindshare is still there for male fleshies).
On top of that, the homofags are just, on average, painfully mediocre streamers. Combine that with being seen as leeching shitters thanks to piss poor branding, and you get their current situation.
The thing is, there's little hope to pull out of a death spiral without essentially hijacking another group's clout, but attempting to do it with Hololive won't work due to the audiences being far too disparate.

Rosemi-sama... alive
https://twitter.com/MataraKan/status/1758924800464953532

>>69351806
Look changing your audio setup is a multi day process
Somehow
Apparently

>>69351581
I halfway expect someone else to check out in March.

>>69350695
Eh, you can see how much of a benefit it can be to take someone talented and put them in front of a bigger audience. Chapipi was lucky to be doing 100 people on her karaoke CCV, while Roca is now underperforming if she doesn't break 1k and that's with Idol's fairly tiny mindchair. Put her in Phase as an Invader and you can start to build a box between her, Clara, and Uruka of actually musically talented people which is a very easy sell to viewers.

>>69351203
If EN4 happens early summer we'll likely get to see 10k average EN for the first time since 2021. Hell, we might get to see it anyway.

>>69351581
Who knows? Like gods their subs are accelerating downwards, but the rubber neck retards will float around for who knows how long.

>>69351675
>Hey, at least homoEN numbers are not quite as bad as homoJP.
I'll fully quote Shalltear in her fight against Unglaus here because it is very appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqUBu_Dq7J8
>You used some martial arts just now, didn't you?
>But I can only notice a change in strength by meters
>I can't tell the difference between one and two millimeters

Here is to illustrate: you can fit HALF the Holostars numbers (either branch) into the drop between HoloEN peak early February and their numbers right now.
That insignificant little dip in HoloEN numbers is almost as tall as the whole Holostars chart.
For all intents both Holostars branches are batting at the exact same level: sub 1k

>>69351733
The biggest one is that they do not hire self sufficient men for a branch that will not earn a lot of money.
They need to have motivated talented men that can do their own shit without paying for it. Imagine if just one, just one, of them were a singer-songwriter with a guitar. He would be the emperor of lonely women. They need men that can bootstrap a successful branch with no resources essentially.
The other one is that they need to stop being seen as failures which is too late now lmao

I just want to reiterate the importance of the homos being able to do their own shit. Imagine if that metal boy could actually produce metal songs. It is not particularly hard if you are half bad at guitar and put your mind to it.

>>69352166
>the homofags are just, on average, painfully mediocre streamers
It's a shame that the two who were probably the most talented streamers in HomoEN were also the two to make the quickest exit. That being said, the fact that they WERE the two most talented streamers is probably exactly WHY they bolted early.

>>69352240
Enna is likely.

>>69352295
>early summer '23 historical low
>early summer '24 historical high
that would be so fucking kino

>>69351806
F for the saplings

>>69351733
I guess Holostars seem like bitch ass betas for agreeing to be in a company where they're second class citizens? Males run Niji JP maybe that's attractive to female viewers.

>>69351990
This is the average chart, not the peak chart or the median of peaks chart.
A branch wide 12k average is massive specially for a branch with 34 active channels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxlzJWWzdY

>>69351733
They should have never been co-branded with Hololive. The association kills them.
The male fans don't want anything to do with them and will actively push back, HARD, at their inclusion in Hololive stuff. This will never change, ever.
This makes them look like weak, unwanted beta males, which causes potential female fans to get the ick and fuck off to watch cooler dudes.
The solution isn't to try to integrate holostars harder, the solution is to completely rebrand and separate them. Assuming just disbanding them is off the table.

doki's first karaoke will beat gura's all-time karaoke CCV peak

>>69351897
>not being able to stream "much"
so there's a little hope

Holostars never had a chance because the market for male vtubers is easily saturated. The entire segment of "successful homos" consists of like 5 dudes from Nijisanji.

>>69352346
>Imagine if just one, just one, of them were a singer-songwriter with a guitar.
Hahaha...

>>69352134
How many times do we have to remind you guys that EN small corpos do not require perms. There's not a single thing she does now she couldn't do in any western vtuber company.

>>69351733
>What's wrong with Holostars, as a concept or as a set of branches?
There is no market for male vtubers. There is even a smaller market for male vtubers in what started as a "all girls vtuber agency".

>>69352558
I dont watch them so I guess I need to add "that actually produces and puts out music and does karaokes with said guitar"
if you have a megabuff and dont use it your are a fucking retard that needs to be shot

Shiori's planning a LOTR series watchalong on March. Rip her average.

>>69351728
I want to see that happen. Nothing stays popular forever.

>>69351733
Female Management

>>69352728
I will watch her now.

>>69352728
Has she ever seen it before? I'd love to watch it with her

Shiori has such a nice pair

>>69352728
I will watch them

>>69352728
me dusting off the dvd collector's edition as we speak, now i just need a dvd player

>>69352728
Should be membership streams but she is retarded so i guess they will be public
solo movie watchalongs are pure girlfriend simulator streams

>>69352553
>easily saturated
It's non existent. There is not a single male vtuber which is not a debuffed version of their facestreamer (or even noface) counterparts.

this will be gura's lowest karaoke CCV to date

>>69351733
>why do NijiJP's men have such higher chances at success than the Stars do?
Because Nijisanji was willing to use their female talents as stepping stones for their males. It’s that simple. If Cover is willing to destroy the girls’ work and the audience they’ve procured, Holostars would probably be successful. Audiences only appear interested to watch male vtubers if they’re constantly fawned over by their female coworkers like they’re in a harem anime for some reason.

I win.

>>69353000
This something I'll never understand.

>>69351733
>why do NijiJP's men have such higher chances at success
Counter argument: they don't.
How much success have more recent members actually had?
Niji has a handful of successful male vtubers and the rest seem to be surviving of their scraps more then anything.
Seems more Kuzuha and the like succeed inspite of being vtubers, not because there's an actual large demand for male vtubers

>>69352477
>>69352922
>leave /#/ for hours
>ennacuck still talking to himself
this is actual mental illness

>>69353064
For female audiences, it’s some weird need to have men who are wanted by other girls. For male audiences it’s to live vicariously through the vtuber like any generic main protagonist in any shitty harem anime. Ultimately, most people who don’t fit in this narrow market for male vtubers would rather watch the superior male fleshstreamers.

>>69351733
women loves assholes, homostars is trying to do hololive but with dudes obviously it doesn't resonate with sisters

>>69351733
I think EN just has more established normal male streamers to pick from, so vtuber ones just won't be as successful. Meanwhile girls thrive because using an avatar allows them to add more of that anime cuteness that can't work as well for fleshies, and that has an audience.

>>69353114
Nah, if it's shitting on Gura like this, it's probably a bot
>>69353064
It's a status thing for women.

>>69352789
No she hasn't, she's asking members what she can get to commission assets and cosplay for the watchalong right now on stream.

>>69352413
Women hate being a minority in a fanbase filled with straight males/otaku. The holos and homos are just way too different in appeal. Girls will watch nijis where being a fujo/yume is more "normal".

>>69353114
Dude’s been shitposting for almost a year now. Every fucking day, well over 12+ hours. He’s probably /here/ more than he sleeps. And there’s a 95% he’s the botfaggot as well. Out of all the mentally ill faggots on 4chan, he might honestly be the most mental. That’s a remarkable achievement.

>>69353386
Then why do most holos have at least 10% female audience

>>69351733
Another issue is that they are branded as male idols, and there just isn't enough demand for male idol vtubers in the western market.

Apparently fleshtubers are having an award show tonight. I wonder if that affects vtuber nunbers

I'm kinda interested in difference between twitch and yt earning from ads on respective vids. I heard that twitch is really generous with their ad money but how much holos earn with their 7-15k ccv against someone on twitch with same ccv. Anyone has info on that matter?

>>69350960
sisters always forgive their fuckboys

>>69352576
some of Amiya's streams borderline treads on piracy like emulation, modded games like the Sonic games from SAGE, and abandonware that has no legal way of obtaining. even when she was still on Tsunderia, she wasn't allowed to stream certain games that she only started doing as an indie.

also her model made by si10ra is too iconic and no way Phase will let her retain that model considering the recent Invaders wave.

Holstars stars are Hololive

>>69353437
Some women also enjoy seeing cute girls and get inspired or comforted by it. See Biboo.

>>69353393
Why though? He clearly doesn't watch streams and does not give a fuck about vtubers at all.

>>69353437
girls who like girls do exist
they're not very normal, usually

>>69353438
Hot fanart but I somehow actually find it kinda gross to associate Shiori or any Holo with what Pan Piano has become

>Rin has spent the previous month streaming BG3 exclusively with almost daily 12 hour streams
>she finally beat the game
>she's planning her next playthrough
Send help

>>69353438
Shiori Pan Piano ver.

>not even 2k waiting
shark fell off

>>69353218
There really aren’t any ‘normal’ female streamers. It’s mostly women doing border-line soft-core porn and trying to shill their onlyfans account. Female vtubers opens a market for people who just want to watch cute girls do things normal streamers do.

>>69353470

>>69353535
make her play pathfinder:wotr instead and do the demon redeemed by pure love from a succubus route

>>69353437
they are the real otaku women thats not some normalfag kpop fujo trash you can see everywhere on xitter

>>69351203
If EN can stay stable between the 7.5k-8.5k line is a 9k average possible with EN4?

>>69353510
Probably unironic schizophrenia and whatever other diagnosed or undiagnosed mental problems they have. Sometimes you just can’t explain shit people do if they’re not in their right mind.

Amiya thought that Titanic movie was actual retelling of real events...

>>69353437
Because they are genuinely fun to watch, so at least part of the audience will be females simply enjoying good entertainment. Maybe some lesbians too.

>>69353707
I mean, it kinda is

>>69353393
honestly, our schizos don't hold a candle to the schizos of /vg/. the rinschizo of Love Live mobage generals had been seething over a love live character for over 7 years now!

>>69352728
I will watch her

>>69353659
>a 9k average possible with EN4?
Historically the strongest months for EN are during summer, there is no reason for them not to beat 9k and maybe even 10k if Gura is in top form

>>69353707
I watched the animated one with talking mouses and I 100% believe everything happened exactly like that.

>>69353470
>are
Also,

>>69353707
It was except for the 2 main characters and the antagonist, and the research team framing device.

>>69348917
I'm not gonna lie guys at the start I was like this bitch is so stupid but now I respect the fact that she just wants to do her own thing and chill

>>69351568
Never forget that retarded /pol/-fag lawyers are the ones that convinced Vic Mignogna he had even a snowball chance in hell of successfully suing FUNIMATION and made him lose everything AGAIN.

>>69352413
God I miss the early days when Nijisanji was dominated by JKgumi, Sanbaka, Gibera, Roa and Lulu. I don’t even recognize modern Nijisanji.

what do chickens have to do with rock and roll?

>>69352642
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVwGx6gOvSYBRT_hcD1E-TEnVg9TvhF59

You are a fucking retard. The only thing you can maybe complain about Rikka against your gameplan is that he doesn't crank out originals, but instead he does a whole lot of covers.

>>69347969
>>69348003

>>69351454
Where's that bar was low something, something image?

>>69353814
It's like 50/50 if Gura won't have another breakdown by that point.

>>69348049

>>69353756
Did they bot or use their money to troll people?

>>69353849
to be fair to him, Funimation did finally die after they got EA'd by Sony/Crunchyroll.

>>69348917
Man I really love her schedules, even if they're not good for numbers

>>69353849
he had a case, but for some reason he hired the worst lawyers of all time
whoever recommended them to him was some kind of evil retard
baffling event

>>69353863
and i wasnt speaking about homojp because they do not exist in my eyes but go off sister i guess
go watch your failures that fail in the market where there is a demand for male vtubers
they are even worse than homoen lmao they fail in a market where there is no demand for male vtubers

>>69353814
I was kind of low balling, trying to keep it modest but what do you think is realistically possible with EN4 plus a consistent Gura 11k maybe?

>【歌枠】UNARCHIVED KARAOKE gura! #shorts
There's no way Gura did this on her own initiative. The her manager probably bribed her with candy and Hastune Miku cosplay.

Lawyer man got Sayu some new subs

>>69354175
she went so far as to put gura in the title, the only thing missing from a numberfag final dream is using default_gura.png as thumbnail

>>69351733
You need
>Attractors
>Advertisement
and then account for detractors. They have advertisement, and some of them have attractors (Good at games, singing, something that makes them unique enough for someone to watch THEM specifically), but then you get to detractors. Stars are supposed to be a male only idol group, which isn't a terrible idea, but they're completely overshadowed by Hololive in terms of idol-ness and are actively harmed by their proximity to them. If I wanted to watch an idol, Hololive is right there and offers more. If I wanted to watch someone entertaining, Hololive is right there and offers more. That leaves people who'd watch males only because they're males, gay men, women and some very small outliers and they're already happy with Niji so you'd really only get the ones who also like underdogs. I think the Stars are demoralized and just kind of going through the motions a lot of the time, they don't have anyone with drive or real ambition in terms of getting peoples attention and doing creative things, they have no Pekora.
Funnily enough I think they'd really be helped by management properly cutting them off from the "Holo" branding and firmly asserting the two groups have absolutely nothing to do with the other, but they won't do that because they're retarded.

>>69353982
Huh? Funimation is still around as a Sony anime licensing arm. The only thing that shut down was their video streaming which was redundant since Sony bought Crunchyroll.

>>69354175
she just read SNORyS >>69229745

This is what the REAL fans of hololive think
How does it make you feel, chuds? That you will always be a minority while the bois get the girls behind the scenes and they get the money? Hahahahahaha

>>69354299
Are Niji JP males really creative or talented? Kuzuha seems to be a pretty basic bitch game streamer.

>>69354083
>I'm about to parrot investors and ask, why do NijiJP's men have such higher chances at success than the Stars do?
>not talking about JP

I genuinely can't tell if you're such a zoomer that you are incapable of reading a couple of sentences before word vomiting, have brain damage to the point that you just forget about things right after reading them, or are so brown that you can't actually read English and just look for buzzwords. The funniest part is you are so dumb that you think I'm defending Rikka when I'm actually blasting your gameplan as proven to not be the route to success.

>>69354088
Maybe during EN4 debut month, but no, still impossible given the number of members. Fauna and maybe Mumei are the only ones currently capable of maintaining >10k average to help with branch average, some that potentially can stay around 9k, but then you have ones like Kiara, Bae and Mori who will stream a TON, but only average like 5-6k. Hard to balance that.

>>69354088
It is not the strongest girls that pull the average up.
The only reason Hololive managed to incline their average that much was by pulling their floor up.
Girls like Flare, Aki, Luna, AZKi and Sora inclining contributed more to the branch wide incline than the top girls overperforming.
And there is another variable
>the number of hours streamed contribute heavily to the branch wide average
meaning a 7 hours debuff stream by Kiara offsets some 3 strong but shorter streams by Gura

>>69349961
Does tenma like hololive?

>okbh

>>69354451
Like I said
>That leaves people who'd watch males only because they're males, gay men, women and some very small outliers and they're already happy with Niji
That plus the fact they showed up first gets them their audience. If the Stars had a bigger entertainment factor they could probably break Niji down pretty fast, they're really just a house of cards.

>>69353849
His lawyers were bad. He did have a case, but he needed better legal rep. It was fucking painful to watch what happened in that case.

https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/detail/SSZS-21385?ima=3740
>Elira's merch is removed from Niji's shop
Ohnononononononono
NDFbros…?

>>69354451
Not really. They don’t even have any good male singers, to be honest.

>>69354581
IDK, don't watch her. Pippa does. But she also likes Holostars (EN)

>>69354652
>ISREAL

>>69352221
one hour if you're male, five days if you're female

>>69354510
This, floors unironically matter more than peaks. Cementing a higher floor is usually a much harder task than breaking your record peak.