/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

SIEG ZAION

>OH VEY

OY VEY

OY VEY

OY VEY

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

OY VEY

>I'm "oy veying" on that one

>>69346612
SIEG ZAION!

OY VEY

OY VEY, FLUSH IT DOWN

SIEG ZAION

(((THEY))) WERE MENTIONED.

STOP NOTICING THINGS

OY VEY

ZIONISTS RISE UP

>>69346684
>oy vey
kek

BVTM and /pol/ are uneducated shitbagz who watch against their social interests

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSNZK4Je-Y

HE SAID THE THING BASED CHAD BROS XDDD HE SAID IT!!!! OH MY GOD IM GONNA SUPERCHAT!!!

OY VEY

OY VEY STOP NOTICING

>>69346774
shut the fuck up enna

>>69346774
YOU TELL EM VOXBRO FUCK THIS CHUD

OY VEY

>>69346774
kvetching super hard there sister

i leave for an hour and this poon is still edging us wtf -_-

>>69346769

>i play romhacks
LEGAL MINDSET TERMINATION

>>69346774
>Implying I'll ever superchat anyone

>>69346633
Doxxsisters are so hypocritical, man. Vox has even said he wanted to rape his neighbor's dog and they buried that shit hard. Not to mention the whole surprise rape blowjob ASMR.

>>69346774
Laughing imagining Lisa Cuddy from House schlicking to Vox

>he's unironically /vp/

>pokefag
DROPPED

Fucking clown ass /pol/ grifter. This man brings shame to real, serious lawyers everywhere.

This could even kill some support for Doki since a lot of her fans are cancel culture twitter freaks.

>>69346774
Don't you have some tunnels to dig?

Reminder:
>hide /pol/ posts
>ignore /pol/ posts

>>69346774
Bleeding pussy sis

>>69346912
Seethe as you watch your oshi burn nigger

>>69346912
so true sister

>>69346912
>concern trolling
kek, this is solid bait, 8/10

>>69345350
If you're still here, can you verify how near or far from what really happened this timeline copypasta is?
>NijisanjiEN was founded in 2020 with its own dedicated management team. Said team left the company to start a NFT venture in December of that year. Ex-NijiIN member Noor is then put in charge to fill their place.
>>/vt/thread/68273408#p68280109
>The first set of auditions resulted in 6 members being contracted, with only 3 debuting at first under Lazulight, one of those members was Elira, whose knowledge of the japanese language seemingly gained her the favoritism from the higher-ups early on, as indicated by the company letting her choose the theme for her second outfit while Pomu hadn’t such a benefit.
>>/vt/thread/69142853#p69147004
>Said favoritism also translated into Elira getting more merch released than any other member of Lazulight.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p69009739
>The second set of auditions was for the third and fourth waves. The third wave is Ethyria, which contains two of Elira’s PL friends, Enna and Millie, indicating that they may have been hired through nepotism, a testament to the influence of Elira inside the branch.
>As the branch grew in members, Elira would need some sort of assistance to forward communications between it and the japanese side, and so Enna and Millie, became involved in the process to monitor and report her about the happenings inside the branch.
>>/vt/thread/69014403#p69023271
>>/vt/thread/69228845#p69246437
>Jumping straight to 2023, Noor is replaced with Yasuhiro Harry Igarashi as head of management for NijisanjiEN, somebody who treats this position as a part-time job, meaning that he is less involved with the branch than Noor, which left a power vacuum that Elira and her friends could monopolize for themselves.
>>/vt/thread/68033404#p68043182
>May 23rd of 2023, Selen misses the deadline for the recording of a voice pack and mentions wanting a representative so it wouldn’t happen again. Getting a representative would incite other members to do the same, making Elira’s role as a translator between the EN branch and Anycolor pointless. And so, Elira possibly proceeded to convince management proper (she’s ‘‘shadow management’’, a liaison, after all) to suspend Selen and have her given the warning that one more infraction would mean that she’s out of the company.
See attached image
>In the months that followed, Elira appears to have done an internal smear campaign against Selen, trying to convince most of the members of the branch to get rid of her. And as such, would attempt to isolate Selen from the rest of the company as much as she could.
>This isn’t the first time they harassed a member to make them leave the company as proved by this screenshot: >>/vt/thread/68412484#p68438814
>December 2023, the shitfest involving Selen’s MV occurs. Selen attemps suicide after continuous harassment from other members and Elira has to assume responsibility, so in the 27th she announced to the public she would have to to take care of affairs involving health issues in her family, as a way to cover what really had transpired behind closed doors.
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129835
>>/vt/thread/69036707#p69039165
>February 13th, 2023, Elira releases the now infamous ‘‘A Message From NIJISANJI EN’’ video. She mentions having read the legal documents about Selen/Doki’s case, which were meant only to be seen by Dokibird, her lawyers, and Anycolor’s management. The only way she could have gotten ahold of them it’s if she was involved with management herself. With her being the primary translator between members of the EN branch and the japanese higher-ups, it isn’t unexpected that the japanese would rely on her to translate the contents of the documents.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p68999584
Take into account that each member have their side of their story and so, as they may come forward with their versions, there could arise contradictory or previously unknown details. For example, Pomu was possibly in friendly terms with Elira until the end of her tenure at NijisanjiEN, with her discontent seemingly stemming from conflicts with proper management: >>/vt/thread/68033404#p68035166

>>69346912
As long as Doki herself doesn't interact with him, it doesn't matter. It's like using Asmongold to dunk on Doki.

>>69346912
Opposing opinions are cool anon.
Also you are the one bringing this up go back to /pol/.

>petty-ass controlling shit

Someone should ask him about Vaporeon.

All I getting from this, from my tourist seat is that Zaoin is a bit of a dumb

>>69346774
Wash your vagina

>>69347020
Seem familiar?

>>69346912
Nyfco fish, kys

>>69347036
I bet he knows
There's no way he doesn't know

>>69346912
>cancel culture twitter freaks
But isn't that the NDF?

>>69346912
Cherry picking, Anon.

>>69346912
What are you talking about culture warriors are now part and parcel of this interest. Should have kept them out!

>>69347009
Forgot to attach image, sorry.

>>69347069
Aren't hags cutest when they're almost retarded?

>>69346612
timed out for an hour for posting this thread kek

>>69347069
She was but its still mostly Nijisanji poor management and clear bias against her.

im once again reminded how bad zaion termination was, deeznuts

>>69347069
She is kinda stupid, but she's not an evil pedo antisemite like the sisters tried to paint her as.

>>69347142
Be ready in like 30 minutes for a new bread.

>>69347139
I haven't thought about Runkle in YEARS hahaha wow

>>69347142
Seems like he's dipping out anyway.

Wtf was that SC

>>69347139
Who?

The answer is Minmay.

>>69347020
Why did she do it bros?

>he actually read that SC

>This might actually bring new laws for protecting vtubers and other online personalities
>mfw the GURRAT might go into legal archives

>>69347069

>>69347234
It was obviously Minmay

>>69347069
She's not the sharpest tool in the shed but we love her regardless

>>69347240
Don't bring the monkey into this you vermin

nijisisters, dont look!

>>69347267
the future is getting brighter, and hotter.
I can feel the flames licking my ankles.

liggers!

ZAION FIRED OVER DEE'S NUTS
captcha: KARMN

wait. Is this real niji? They wrote that reason on the termination letter?

Wasn't that brand the same one that forced Mr Beast to change his product's name?

It's my first time reading the One girl's story doc, and here I thought Niji using any petty reason to shit on the talent they fire was something unique to selen...

>>69347069
Same.

No wonder the clique had a feast with her.

DEES NUTS EDITION

>>69347069
She's just like frfr

Someone should SC him letting him know that Elira is allowed to use deez nuts

>>69347306
AAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

inb4 he never gets to the gurrat this stream and grifts for a part 3

>>69347315
All true, it's fucked up.

What the FUCK were they thinking with those petty-ass reasons?

>>69347306
I think the problem isnt a DEEZ NUTS joke but the bag itself.

>>69347306
REMOVE THIS OR I WILL TAKE LEGAL ACTION

this is now Zaion's legacy

>selen was bigger

>>69347306
PLEASE TELL DOWN

>>69347069
Most Vtubers are. That's why management needs to be competent at tard-wrangling in order to actually help them succeed.

>>69347368
He already did

>>69347334
>giving a grifter money
nope, adblock enabled, not subscribed, gifted memberships disabled.

>>69347306

>>69347368
Bro...rewind...

>>69347368
He got to it but now he's going into Zaion to see if it supports the gurrat

>>69347368
Die cunt

>>69347323
Nope, every termination is now suspect as fuck

every Niji termination is in fact to be doubted now for their official reasons.

They will claim copyright reasons, but they own the copyright in questions etc.

Holy shit I didn't knew the Zaion situation was this unfair to her, damn, this is really beyond petty

>>69347298
That's the NijiEN legal team, they're very involved in this.

>>69347368
lmao lol is this you?

>>69347368
coma-chama

>>69347229
>>69347139
THE LAWTUBE ELF

what's with nijitrannies and using the word "grifter"?

>>69347386
She's a big sister.

Jesus fucking christ in a pogo stick, first time reading the zaion stuff
this shit is petty as fuck
and malicious, but mainly malicious
holy fucking fuck, did Sayu ate the baby of some manager to deserve such malfeasance

>>69347069
that would make Elira's clique taking advantage of her worse

>>69347267
There's already paralegals trying to put together a mock trail with what we know about the scenario.
Even if it doesn't actually go to trial, this is already circulating around case study groups.
The GURRAT is plausible enough that it can be used as the basis for simulating a real trial, with the question of the mock trial being "how the hell do you even navigate this case".
The GURRAT anon's feeling of "shit getting too real" is completely legitimate.

>>69347424
how did u get this photo of me.....

>liking a post "defamatory" of Niji
SCARLE NO I JUST FOUND YOU

>>69347417
Niji is a dogshit company

This is the one where she liked "FUCK KYO" youtube comment. Because the fucker attacked her using his PL account. BTW he ate a week stealth suspension soon after.

>>69347443
all this shit just because she pissed off the clique

>>69347069
Yeah, pretty much. She is a good girl, but she is a retard. OUR retard.

No fucking wonder Sayu fell into depression. This kind of petty shit can make someone commit suicide.

>>69347315
Yes
>>69347323
And I specifically warned everyone when it happened that it didn't matter whether she deserved it or not. Let the company get away with it this time and they'll do it again but on less favorable terms, and that's exactly what happened to Selen!

>>69347373
Holy fuck. Holy motherfuck.
How do any people still even willing to spend any amount of money here? I rather throw my dollars to strippers owned by russian whorehouse mafia. This is beyond stupid.

>>69347315
I still to this day have no idea how NDF gave the termination letter any validity when fucking deez nuts was listed as a reason.

Legal mindset's number 1 whale

>>69346912
>cancel culture twitter freaks.
but enough about daff and Nijisisters.

>IT SUGGESTS THAT ZION COMMITTED OTHER WRONGDOING
SHUT HIM DOWN

>>69347443
PREASE UNDASTAND
NIJIEN DOING THEIR BEST

>>69347526
Imagine what Selen went through.

>>69347512
that is how cliques work, to keep going the have to single someone out to bully to keep cohesion alive in the group.

>>69347472
> this is already circulating around case study groups
I've seen comments in a False's video where a law professor was using this case as a study case for his students. And people doing uni papers on it.

>>69347512
Worse, she knew Japanese which meant she could bypass the clique for manager stuff. Therefore she had to be dealt with.

>>69346912
Shut the fuck up nigger. This dude is amazing, I'm shocked he is doing /vt/ topics. We should consider ourselves so lucky we are becoming noticeably larger in popularity.

>>69347440
4u

>>69347319
yeah. but iirc that was a trademark case.

>>69347368
technically he read it out, but he had nothing interesting to add. everyone was just frothing at the mouth yelling BASED BASED BASED for reading out le epic 4chan rrat.

>>69346912
cringe.
if he's as good of a lawyer as he appears to be, then it's actually not surprising that he falls into the same pitfall as techbros.
if you're good at your craft and are rarely wrong about things, you feel compelled to chimp out and be outspoken about few things you ARE wrong about.

>>69347440
>>69347440
>>69347440
>>69347440

>>69347589
IS THIS DOING THEIR BEST?
I DON'T WANT TO SEE AT THEIR WORST!

>>69347504
He seemed to eat cum too, and likely continues this practice up to the present.

>>69347472
This timeline is fucking wild

captcha: RPGVG

>>69346912
But all 3 of those videos are factual

>>69347009
>NijisanjiEN was founded in 2020 with its own dedicated management team. Said team left the company to start a NFT venture in December of that year. Ex-NijiIN member Noor is then put in charge to fill their place.
I can't confirm any of this. I was only interested in performing as a talent so I don't know anything about management in foreign branches.
>The first set of auditions resulted in 6 members being contracted, with only 3 debuting at first under Lazulight, one of those members was Elira, whose knowledge of the japanese language seemingly gained her the favoritism from the higher-ups early on, as indicated by the company letting her choose the theme for her second outfit while Pomu hadn’t such a benefit.
I can confirm Elira's knowledge of Japanese led to favoritism. I don't know about the rest.
>Said favoritism also translated into Elira getting more merch released than any other member of Lazulight.
Plausible, but I don't have evidence and any evidence would be on the other side of the language barrier on internal documents.
>The second set of auditions was for the third and fourth waves. The third wave is Ethyria, which contains two of Elira’s PL friends, Enna and Millie, indicating that they may have been hired through nepotism, a testament to the influence of Elira inside the branch.
>As the branch grew in members, Elira would need some sort of assistance to forward communications between it and the japanese side, and so Enna and Millie, became involved in the process to monitor and report her about the happenings inside the branch.
Yes. This was around the time I wanted to join. This upset a lot of people inside and outside of Niji. Many friends or friends-of-friends of talents wronged by Elira were the ones who warned me.
>Jumping straight to 2023, Noor is replaced with Yasuhiro Harry Igarashi as head of management for NijisanjiEN, somebody who treats this position as a part-time job, meaning that he is less involved with the branch than Noor, which left a power vacuum that Elira and her friends could monopolize for themselves.
I don't know anything about management staff getting shuffled around, but I know Elira was in charge.
>May 23rd of 2023, Selen misses the deadline for the recording of a voice pack and mentions wanting a representative so it wouldn’t happen again. Getting a representative would incite other members to do the same, making Elira’s role as a translator between the EN branch and Anycolor pointless. And so, Elira possibly proceeded to convince management proper (she’s ‘‘shadow management’’, a liaison, after all) to suspend Selen and have her given the warning that one more infraction would mean that she’s out of the company.
I stopped thinking about Niji by this point, but this type of behavior is consistent with what I was told about. No idea if any of it's real.
>In the months that followed, Elira appears to have done an internal smear campaign against Selen, trying to convince most of the members of the branch to get rid of her. And as such, would attempt to isolate Selen from the rest of the company as much as she could.
>This isn’t the first time they harassed a member to make them leave the company as proved by this screenshot:
I can't confirm any of this but it sounds like something Elira would do.
>December 2023, the shitfest involving Selen’s MV occurs. Selen attemps suicide after continuous harassment from other members and Elira has to assume responsibility, so in the 27th she announced to the public she would have to to take care of affairs involving health issues in her family, as a way to cover what really had transpired behind closed doors.
>February 13th, 2023, Elira releases the now infamous ‘‘A Message From NIJISANJI EN’’ video. She mentions having read the legal documents about Selen/Doki’s case, which were meant only to be seen by Dokibird, her lawyers, and Anycolor’s management. The only way she could have gotten ahold of them it’s if she was involved with management herself. With her being the primary translator between members of the EN branch and the japanese higher-ups, it isn’t unexpected that the japanese would rely on her to translate the contents of the documents.
Ask Doki about this, not me.

>>69347607
thats a VERY good point.
god damn this is a MASSIVE women moment. its pungent like a corpse flower

>>69347526
Anons on here don't really realize how bad and isolating it feels to have injusticr done to you with nobody to back you up

>>69347620
he said it sounds credible.

Its enough to get and investigation and a lawsuit.

>>69347315
People used to praise niji for listing all of zaion's crimes btw. Wild.

>>69347608
>letting normalfags into your hobby
These same fags would probably say Gura is a icon of pedophilia

>>69347511
cute

>>69347443
I know, it is as if she killed the families of every liver and staff member there. What the fuck even is that petty list?

Somebody needs to send this dude the Zaion supposed sexual harrassment clip and then compare it to worse comments that Enna has made.

>>69347309
/lig/ga here, it's been fund watching all of this unfold.

>>69347608
yeah we should totally advertise /vt/ on reddit/twitter/discord etc to redpill the normies. just like /pol/ did basically. man this would be so based...

>>69347645
I don't get it.

>>69347443
Yeah they also let her get doxxed and harassed during her month long termination and never once did anything to stop them. It was bad.

>>69347691
imagine if she farted on her lap... heheheh....

>4.5h
>halfway done
WHAT IS THIS MAN COOKING

>>69347443
I regret staying.
It was all fun rrats and laugh before but this... absolute depression.

>>69347699
Have you ever been targeted by SJW types before? This is their normal behavior. They don't have any conception of restraint.

>>69347680
There was no specifics in the list AC provided, As soon as anyone reads the specifics, they look like dog shit.

>>69347754
This but pee

>>69347659
>>69347607
wait.
What does this imply about Petra.

>>69347729
Someone should send him the clip where they claimed she was anti-semitic and how much it was taken out context by Nijifags to try and slander her.

>>69347620
He said it was crediable, since the gurrat even defends talking points in favor of nijisanji.

>>69347770
cooking those superchats that people give him for reading out shit we know already LMAO he eatin good tonight

>>69347746
Sorry to say this man, but thats already inevitable. Enjoy

>>69347770
Milking idiots for his food budget for the next year and a half.

>>69347770
he got a taxi to catch to the airport in 3.5 hours. Might as well farm superchats for the first class seat home.

>there are retards unironically falling for the “Yugo was harassed due to being a tranny” narrative
NijiEN is full of SJWs these dumb tards and Yugo isn’t even an actual tranny

I enjoy watching nijisanji die of liver failure, and can't for them to drink their last cup of coffee after their final hangover.

HUEH? ZAION HOME ADRESS AND PERSONAL INFO WAS LEAKED AND SPREADING ON TWITTER?
AND INSTEAD OF FIGHTING DEFAMATION AND SLANDER ANYCOLOR TERMINATED HER OVER DEEZ NUTS JOK?
CAN YOU BEELEB IT WUFFIANS?

>>69347656
>Yes. This was around the time I wanted to join. This upset a lot of people inside and outside of Niji. Many friends or friends-of-friends of talents wronged by Elira were the ones who warned me.
what did they warned you about exactly?

>>69347069
She's just like me

We're made for each other frfr

>>69347857
I accidentally a wait

>>69347741
>Nijisanji being retards kicked off YouTube Armageddon
What a time to be alive!

I really need an update to the drama. I need something big to get my fix. Something like Doki killing herself or Vox being accused of sex trafficking or something. It's been too boring lately.

>>69347770
>his other streams: 200 usd tops in superchats
>both the nijisanji streams: more than 2k each
he's gonna try to milk this topic as much as he can, and I don't think he will stop as long as the money keeps coming

>>69347843
I thought most of the nijien members are left-leaning. Why would they bully her for being trans?

>>69347843
They're about as SJW as ActiBlizz is. It's a total farce to look good in public, then all of a sudden an internal harassment case blows up in the news because they're all actually psychopaths.

>>69347782
You will get used to it

>>69347843
the JP side were actually harassing Yugo for this

Holy shit fuck you containment breaking retards, kill yourselves

STOP BREAKING CONTAINMENT NIGGERS

>>69347944
Supposedly she was under the same manager as the girls, and in VC/discord they would call Yugo "he" to her face to bully her.

Why is so entertaining to watch this old boomer talk about vtuber gossip

>>69347656
>Plausible, but I don't have evidence and any evidence would be on the other side of the language barrier on internal documents.

we know for a fact that this is true anon, elira got 9 merchdeals last year, double that of the others, and by that I mean double that of everyone else COMBINED, pomu got 2, even though pomus merch consistently outsold eliras, dont think selen got any despite being their most successful female, even if elira wasnt a manager, we know that she profited heavily from favouritism.

You don't need to mention 4chan every single time anon...

>>69347999
>old
Fuck...

>>69347952
Vox drinks Elira's breastmilk!

>>69347999
because he's (nice trips) passionate about Law.
people love hearing from passionate people covering a topic, even moreso when its a topic people are also fascinated with.

>>69347803
They might have actually been fooled thinking they had to talk to EN "management" not knowing it's just Elira and her clique

>>69348036
i too, am a chumbud, anon...

>>69347656
Thanks for the answer, it's sad to see what happened with EN. I was expecting for there to be something wrong in the copypasta, but I'm surprised that it appears not to be the case.

>>69347944
They are which is why that theory is retarded
>>69347952
Some of them I’m sure are just faking it but I really doubt people in the clique (the ones doing the bullying) are. Uki is in the clique, for example, and is close with Elira. He has no qualms about showing his colors

>>69348000
Selen won two award on filians award stream. This was likely when Elira and her mean girls decided to get rid of her.

I bet Zaion was gotten rid of cause the saw her as a threat.

>>69347879
image manipulated Moco-chan is going to appear in my dreams at this point

>>69347843
>>69347975
Trannies deserve it and much more tho.
inb4 tranny jannies ban this throaway IP for 3 days lmao

>mm

>>69347843
>>69347975
It was mostly JP fans who shit talked Yugo yeah. Xhe has one of the highest dislike rates on sk I've ever seen.

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>69348079
That seems to be what the deal is. I bet a lot of them fired off mail and DMs to managers not knowing they were sending them to the Clique

>>69347843
yeah, she doesn't cut off mutilate her genitals like those xitter trannies

>>69347999
it feels like being a little child again while having a really intelligent, and nice uncle that loves to talk about my hobbies passionately before he got married and rarely get to see each other again...

>>69348169
this whole shebang is THICK with corruption. its so fascinating.

>>69346612
Dreaming of Zaion awake
Sleeping awake!

>>69347843
NijiEN is full of chinks that hate trannies. At least make your cope believable.

>>69348191
You got cucked by a roastie, bro.... should've gotten to that cock first...

>>69347803
Petra bowed out pretty quickly.
Initially she was helping A LOT translating and helping with projects that needed JP correspondence, when the management team quit to make the NFT company.
But, she just stopped for whatever reason (Now we can speculate what the reason was), and she kinda withdrew into her shell.
Petra was inclining as fast as the other Obsydias initially, but *something* happened, and it seems she just stopped trying a much from that point forward.

>>69347975
The JP side I can imagine doing it sure, but the theory that was posted /here/ as a supposed leak makes it out to be the clique bullying her.

>>69348177
Pooners are almost more tragic than trannies.
Cute tomboys being brainwashed into becoming gay freaks. It's unforgivable.

>>69347941
He doesn't really need money though? I think it's more the fame and chat activity.

>>69347803
Petra is too weak-willed to do anything against the clique. Either she's their lapdog or she just disconnects from Niji for long periods (latter is what she has done many times through the years it seems)

>>69347306
Wait did they really fired someone for that?

>>69348079
The only problem I have with this is that it means there was supposed to be EN management, but they're just spinning around in their chairs while Elira and co do the work, or there isn't EN management at all, and how does Japan not realize there's no EN management on payroll?

>>69348296
Bullied

For those who were around at the time, how in the fuck did people see Zaion's situation so differently? This shit sounds just as bad as what Selen had to deal with, minus the suicide attempts. I just can't fathom why she got dogpiled so hard and didn't get more sympathy when all this befell her.

The zaion part was sad, fuck nijisanji

mm

>>69348365
Not nearly as popular, simple as.

>>69347803
You are now reminded of the incident where Enna was sending pictures of dead penguins to Petra

>>69348162
wtf is this site?

>>69348365
Sisters were a much larger fraction of the fanbase at the time

>>69348365
She only lasted for like 2 months in the company, so she didn't have time to build up a fanbase.

>>69348296
she saw the writing on the wall but had no willpower of her own to scream it into the aether.

>>69348365
Zaion was less popular and was against more antis.
It was "peak" nijisanji so speaking bad against them could be seen as BS.

GURRAT

>>69347729
He might actually get struck by Niji if he shows those on stream

>>69348365
The weight of who controls the message at the time.

Zaion did not have a big fanbase yet. She was new. She had not built up enough yet.

>>69348365
twitter just literally saw red cause of her joke and blind trust in Nijisanji so just viewed her as the problem. insane stuff really

>>69348365
Doubt about nijisanji wasn't in full motion. Zaion also didn't have a month of silence. Zaion also didn't have a very popular streamer aka rpr join a hashtag asking whereiszaion. She got shafted all the same, selens was just the perfect storm.

It will only take Asmongold/any other react nigga to react to Legal Mindset's the Zaion part to revert the public's opinion.

>>69348365
Zaion made some fucked up rape jokes on stream, basically got cancelled by the twitter sisters so she got no sympathy from them. Also, she was new, didnt have many fans

>>69348365
She wasn't established enough to have many people defending her outside of /here/. The sisters are always eager to dogpile on somebody who their sacred company points a finger at. Zaion also suffers a little from self sabotage outside of the scummy parts too to be honest.

>>69348091
The entertainment industry is horrible everywhere.

>>69348079
From what I heard, when you contacted management it was sent over to the JP branch who immediately forwarded it to Elira which gave her two layers of deniability.

>>69348000
LOL. What am I doing in this thread when it's that obvious?

>>69348118
That happened in December of last year. If anything, in the timeline it's said that they have been harassing her since May of 2023 because of her wanting to get a representative, making Elira's role as ''shadow management'' pointless.

>>69348365
they wrangled the narrative

>>69348365
I think Zaion also had to deal with a dying pet in the middle of her bullshit

>>69348464
YOU FUCKING BITCH
KIRYU DID NOTHING WRONG

>>69348365
it WAS bad, and the saner people were all on her side initially, but after SA thing blew up, the sisters took the harassment to another new level, to the extent that her personal information was just being blatantly shared on twt.

>>69348464
Should we make a translation?

>>69348365
zaion is too new and barely has any foothold in the vtuber industry

>>69348296
I want to hug her and tell her she's not useless

>>69348365
Newfag, not popular = she deserved it

>>69348395
video and timestamp? A quick search and I only see one other mention of it on /vt/ and that was relatively recent

>>69348482
Also when the first action of Niji is to delete all the vods and proof that would clear her through context.

Hard to fight back against the claims when all the vids are gone, and she did not have a fan base that was big enough yet that would have made tons of clips.

>>69348464
This fucking bitch ruined Ichiban AND Kiryu's lives...

>>69347944
>>69347996
these crowds are pro trans when they can publicly milk it for good girl points, but they WILL use it against you when they need an excuse. Women are usually a lot more vicious against trannies than men are as long as its a social thing and isnt violent. men either think trannies are disgusting or they just dont care if they dont set of their disgustmeter, but its the other way around for women, the better you look, the more youre perceived as a woman by men, the worse women will treat you. if you look like a lumberjack however, leftist women consider you a curiosity that they can use to boost their own image, like gay men.

t. transitioned over 14 years ago

>>69348464
>GURRAT is part of Yakuza's plan
Ruh roh, I don't like this...

>you now remember some Livers said shit like how Zaion didn't listen to their advice, that she "gaslighted" them after she got terminated
the clique was there all this time

Genshinbros... not like this

>>69348446
almost half of that she spent in stealth suspension

>>69348435
neopets

>>69348502
No she didnt.
I mean you of course have clips of these so called rape jokes right?

>>69348631
Yeah, it worked so well once that they tried to do it with Selen again.

the people who wronged Zaion will not see the pearly gates

>>69348546
There is a translation circulating I believe.

>>69348618
That tracks. SJW types are all, to the last, hypocrites

>>69348303
true

Wait a second. If the managers are ESL, possibly Japanese, would they really know terms such as PL?

>>69347754
imagine her fat futa cock shooting fat load inside her.

>>69348536
There was no SA, that was a fabrication.

I dont care much about niji and just watch it from afar for the radioactive fallout warmth.
But this. How the fuck.
It really triggers something within inside me.
Yeah. I'm leaning to Doki more and more. And I refuse to believe this company is still publicly traded. You have better morals investing your money in Lockheed Martin than Anycolor.

>>69348489
Moistcritikal already has one I saw it earlier today

>>69348365
this is unironically similar to Coco's situation in China when the Taiwan saga happened. She didn't do that many Bilibili exclusive streamings so she doesn't have many fans. Pekora literally pulled some Tibet shit before on stream and walked away with it.

>>69348596
I think it's mentioned in some old collab, but meantime there's this
https://twitter.com/ennaalouette/status/1468636747592613890

>>69348510
>LOL. What am I doing in this thread when it's that obvious?
I dont understand, am I wrong?

>>69348118
wasnt the award thing relatively recent?
theyve been fucking with her for at least a year though

>>69348435
its named Sukikira, its a site where japs rate celebs/streamers/idols etc, its infested with nijifags

>>69348732
my bad, trumped up """rape""" joke

>>69348723
from what it sounds, the managers are JOP

>>69348365
She took too long to get her side out, and the sister narrative metastasized without any hope of being excised. Doki literally responded within the day, while Sayu took weeks as her genmates and senpais were assassinating her character on multiple streams.

>>69348464
who?

>>69348670
My bad, it was a rape victim joke. This particular clip blew up on twitter
>no wonder she got-
The character got assaulted
https://youtu.be/0tkQAkTSREM?si=mN_Jty9dLHoUflR8

>>69348618
Sure but Yugo wasn’t even an actual tranny. Still isn’t as U-san. Just “nonbinary” while not actually doing anything transition-wise. So the theory still does not hold water.

collabing with any current niji liver seems like career suicide at this point

Is it legal for Sayu to release this document even with the NDA? Is it ok because she's only responding to the termination rather than making new claims?

>>69348745
It was a one-two punch don't forget. Haachamachama was on the plate, and Haachama being coco's one and only oshi, she stepped up to the plate to take the heat for her, but my god those flames managed to actually hurt the dragon.

>>69347879
ÆUGHH, RUFFERANS, DIS STORY KINDA STINKS DOESNT IT??? HAU CAN DIS COMPÆNY BE SO SHITTY?

>>69346888
Didn’t he get into trouble for DM’ing 13 year olds for sex as an adult?

>>69348723
Niji proper management don't know shit about English.
NijiEN clique-fags however knew both

>>69348856
the @ is there anon

>>69347999
Bro is a Gen Xer at the absolute oldest. It would be even funnier though for a boomer to be going over all this.

>>69348859
In this one short clip she shows more personality than 90% of niji talent.
I saw it before her termination and though "lol maybe I should watch her sometime"

>>69348867
Yeah, even Doki kept using "they" for U-san.

Real reason why she was cockblocked for her Genshin account: Finana, Elira's friend, and clique henchmen, got jealous as fuck that another girl who played Genshin was mogging her in numbers and SC's. She was competition. Later Finana would fabricate a story about MUH GAS LIGHTING that makes zero sense.

>>69348395
WTF??? Is that real or a rrat?

>>69348450
She obviously saw the writing on the wall.
Her PL was basically consecutive cries for help for a while now.

>>69348859
it's based, but obviously a no go for the sterile corpo streamer she is supposed to be. anybody saying anything else is coping.

>>69348908
No? Stop making up shit.
It was a 12 year old.

>>69348873
Barely, but she was safe. Still, Niji tried to fuck her in the ass over it and Sayu had to spent a lot of money in her lawyer just to get them away from her.

this actually lines up with what chihiro said, kurosanji just twist everything when its convenient for them, no wonder her genmates retweeted her reincarnation when they knew nijiniggers would come down on them

>>69348782
I agreed with you. I didn't know about the merchdeals. I thought Elira's greed would be a little more subtle. If she's that obvious, it's amazing the JP management never clamped down on her. What an utterly mismanaged company from top to bottom.

>>69348943
Would YOU want to piss off an alphabetty live on stream?

>>69348365
Reminder that the first 3 Niji waves were girls only.
Ethyria filtered a bunch of people that liked cute girls.
Luxiem fans flooded all niji spaces, overwhelmed and actively pushed out fans of the girls.
Pufferfish and other events gave off the perception that the girls themselves didn't like having girls-only fans, so it filtered even more people.
Males jumping into the girl's streams randomly continued filtering even more.

Zaion was in iLuna, which was the last wave prior to the niji collapse.
She was a 3view in Niji, so her core fanbase was MUCH smaller than the Luxiem sister hivemind.
She had 4chan autism behind her, but those were simply people supporting her during the drama - she was a Genshin girl, so no one /here/ was ever gonna watch her or SERIOUSLY support her outside of /here/.

>>69348859
Sayufags will defend Sayu even for stuff that she admitted in her document and also said she was in the wrong for doing so.

I knew this document already but going through it again brings so much pain god. I can't imagine how awful it must be for Sayu to constantly be reminded of this crap.

>>69348908
12 years old, and he was 16 or 17.
Sisters will say it's been debunked but that seems to be a lie because I've searched for it and haven't found any actual debunk

>>69348873
thats why the document is written in a way that Zaion is a different person and are her words but Sayu is just passing it along. since technically doesn't tie her to Zaion

>>69347999
Because the boomer is based, he roasted a lot of people on the first stream with no fucks given.

THAT GIRL WAS ELIRA. ELIRA FUCKING SNITCHED ON HER FOR JUST TALKING TO HER ABOUT THE GENSHIN ISSUE.

If Elira has wronged soooooo many people, why has no one come forward? They would have an army of support behind them and surely not ALL of them are under NDA.

>>69349100
100%

>>69348908
qrd???

It just keeps getting sadder and sadder, they really hurt her anons

>>69348715
yeah, female competition is vicious. as long as you dont push an agenda or demand dumb shit, men tend to not have a problem with you, at least nowadays. Women outside the same agerange , ie 10+ years older, dont consider us competition so they are indifferent about fucking with us most of the time unless they have an agenda.

>>69348782
>wasnt the award thing relatively recent?
Yes, it's what I pointed out to that anon if you check the quotes on the message.

>>69349038
Cause we can see that she was gaslighted into thinking it was her fault. When its clear its the managers being fucking cunts.

>>69349100
MM

>>69349062
>>69349012
I see, thanks anons. I had no idea her situation was this fucked up.

>>69349117
probably threatening their friends still IN Niji.

>addressing the clique
SISTERS?!

>>69346888
Didn't Vox also made some border line forced sex ASMR with legit cumming noises. That dude got away A LOT

>>69349100
This makes too much sense.

>>69349117
Mean girls alpha stacies are expert manipulators for a reason

>>69348631
It was Finana

>>69349056
> 16-17 years old and messaging 12 year olds

What in the actual fuck

>THIS FITS WITH THE GURRAT

Why the fuck is the gurrat getting more credible

>Orbital strike a yacht
INCOMING IN 3... 2...1....

>>69349117
They use the LEGAL contracts to silence people you dipshit tourist.

He completely forgot about reviewing the legal proceedings and is just enjoying the ride.

>>69348464
I love how RgG absolutely nailed drama tubers.

>>69349181
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnP5bIRfwq0
It was fucking bad.

>manager mad because Zaion skipped her for upper management
>just connected to the GURRAT
oh shiiiiit

>>69349117
Zaion tried it and look at how she ended, they made a example out of her

>>69349117
Her head game was so strong that it intimidated everyone into silence.

>>69349207
Yes, it was a BJ rape ASMR.
Much how Finana also did some full out porn ASMR. Not rapey but it was clearly giving a handjob, BJ and 69.
Wasnt even in members.

>>69348838
>>69348911
I know, I’m saying that message might support the GURRAT. It’s a very specific term coming from someone who supposedly wouldn’t know said term. The livers, however, would absolutely know that term.

>my manager manager's

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN

>>69348867
It's Japan, that shit doesn't fall in line, so it ends up a nail that sticks out, and a lot of people wanted to nail that down
Only difference is that now people wanna nail them in a different way

>>69349241
>tourist
i bet you've never even visited this board till this shit happend.

>>69348365
I never watched Zaion because Luxiem, Noctyx, and Illuna disappointed me so I had no reason to believe newer wave would be any good at the time. When they fired her I just thought "lol retard" and continued on my day. It was when Sayu made her statement I went to check further and realized how awful NijiEN managers really are.

ohnonnononono sisters, every passing day the rrat is shifting into reality

>>69349273
It all keeps linking back to the Gurrat

>>69349245
To be fair this entire thing is so comically retarded it would be unrealistic in a movie.

>>69349317
Branch manager?

>>69349277
Sayu never mentioned Elira

At this point, what separates the GURRAT, from an internal investigation for corruption by a corporation to looks for the discrepencies thats fucking their company? The GURRAT is sourced enough to terminate Elira, Vox, and company.

>>69349317

>>69349017
Poster of the timeline copypasta here, the warosu links in it provide source to these claims if you would like to check them out. Also I had forgotten to attach the image and did so in the first quote instead.

>>69348631
Kotoka was part of the clique, it's why she's still around despite being able to bypass management - because all she cares about it being in NjiJP

>>69349175
Yep and then they told Kotaka and Finana to release their hit pieces on Zaion.

>>69349277
Zaion never once hinted that Elira was evil.

>>69349117
Coming forward publicly blacklists you from every corpo VTuber group and most indie ones. It puts a permanent black mark on your brand you'll never scrub clean. It's career suicide. If you aren't well-prepared and well-connected like Dokibird all that happens is that you screw yourself over.

Its so fucking weird to hear this lawyer say rrat

>>69349333
Ok sister

>>69349222
Oh yeah, that checks out

>>69349364
It's not fully translated in proper Japanese, not the machine-translated kind

>>69349317
Section chief

>>69349393
>Coming forward publicly blacklists you from every corpo VTuber group and most indie ones

This

>>69349117
>contract
>your only source of income
>threatened by a billion $$$ corpo going after you

>>69349317
RRAT: The girl Zaion approached who "on-boarded" her was Elira, but Elira's of course has a manager, because she's officially a talent.

>>69349117
none of the current talents will come forward, bc for sure an NDA is embedded into their contract; none of the "peacefully" graduated livers would, bc most likely and NDA is also embedded into their exit agreement; as for the terminated ones, you see what's happened to them.

>>69349373
At this point its likely that management wrote those.

Fuck man seeing this shit again makes me so mad, I'm glad Sayu is in a much better place now

>>69349393
>Coming forward publicly blacklists you from every corpo VTuber group and most indie ones.
It does not.
Look at Luna.

>>69348365
as for me, it's the first time I'm hearing about it in actual detail, there was a huge wall of Nijisister bootlicking between what I usually see around and the truth

>>69349175
True, Niji management recently told her to throw that guy under that bus for patting his cat.

>Hakui died of LIVER disease
That's a bit too on the nose scriptwriter-san...

>>69349412
Wow what a fucking reference lmao.

>>69349363
She often mentioned girls she thought were friends who betrayed her.

>FAIR SPECULATION
Take that nijifaggots

>>69349393
Please, as if they could resist riding that Doki drama train if it meant getting numbers

SAYU JUST MOVE ON AND IGNORE THIS GUY
YOU MADE IT, YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL
I KNOW THERE'S A VOICE INSIDE YOUR HEAD THAT WANTS MORE VINDICATION, BUT IT'S NOT WORTH IT

>>69349491

>>69349369
I'll confess: Out of laziness, I didn't bother clicking any of the links.

Sayu T_T

Bratty Branch Manager Needs.................. DEATH.

>>69349117
cause everyone is in terror of Nijis black company bullshit.

damn....
I want to give Sayu a hug.

sayu=vindicated

>>69349508
thought that meant finana and her female genmates

>>69349310
oh shit you're right hahahaha.
the GURRAT continues to grow fatter and fatter with vindication as time goes on.
this rat-king is the size of a fucking house.

>>69348524
Before going to Niji she had a messy divorce and wasn't in a good p0lace, she hoped a corpo would help her make new friends for real and help her with projects and revenue even if there was a split.
Then that happened.

The sisters are afraid

>>69349508
So did she mention Elira or not? I take this as a no.

>Fair speculation
>Peer-reviewed rrat

>>69349477
Luna did not declare war on a multi-billion dollar black company.

>>69349542
>>>/ss/

>>69349542
This is the Remnants of Zaion.

>>69349454
You mean that none of them (including Sayu) have ever said anything bad about Elira?

Guys, how do I get off this wild ride?

>Around 8k viewers
Hooly. How does this compare with the Nijis? I think It beats Kyo's graduation lmao

>>69348365
Zaion didn't respond to the situation as well as Selen did, Zaion didn't have years worth of goodwill built up like Selen did, Zaion kowtowed to cancer like FalseEyeD and Khyo instead of ignoring them like Selen did

>>69349395
that's the beauty of the gurrat, elira doesn't have to do it personally, she can have the other older members [finana] do it for her

>>69348365
Other anons have pointed it out, but basically she had less than a month's worth of streams, Niji choked the fuck out of her ability to grow by constantly privating her popular videos, and she got suspsended for multiple weeks during her 3-month tenure. For reference, here's the rough timeline of her activity:
>December 8th, 2022 - Debut
>December 24th, 2022 - Membership opens
>December 30th, 2022 - Zaion is suspended from all activities
>January 10th, 2023 - Zaion returns, intentionally limits the creativity and scope of her streams in order to not step over imaginary lines.
>February 8th, 2023 - Zaion is suspended indefinitely from all activities.
>March 10th, 2023 - Zaion is terminated.
So let's count.
>16 Days from debut to monetization
>5 Days of monetization to suspension
>28 days from return to suspension to indefinite suspension
Total: 49 days on the job, 33 days of which was monetized. I don't personally know how many of her streams survived the initial purges before her channel was completely nuked, but I'm sure /ss/ or a Zaionist has it lying around.

VSHOJO PLS ADOPT ZAION

>>69349653
16k so no sadly

>>69349671
as if the bug will let her in

>livers ganged up on shittalking Zaion
>then they gang up on shittalking Selen
so predictable

>>69349618
Nobody has mentioned Elira by name. Not Doki and neither did Sayu. The only one who has given any kind of proofs that she has been behind the bullying of other talent was Elira herself during her retarded ass black screen stream.

>>69349567
This is such a cope

>>69349653
He already broke 8k, it's just that it went down like 1.5k after the GURRAT. It's gone up for about 1k since.
That said, 7.8k likes and 31 seething sisters.

>>69349650
when riku pulls the plug on nijien

>>69349671
She would fit Phase more

>>69349660
She GASLIT ME!!!!!

>>69349663
She deserves so much better. Fuck anycolor

...

>>69349718
kek
ironic

>>69349056
>"it was debunked like two days after he debuted"
>doesn't provide said debunk
nijitards

I remember hearing about this Zaion drama a bit but never put much thought about it, poor girl...

>>69349655
>Zaion didn't respond to the situation as well as Selen did
True, you could say there was no attempt by Zaion to make the best out of her situation.

>terminates talent sent back in time to prevent the nijipocalypse
>nijipocalypse occurs a year later
Like pottery. Who tf wrote this predictable ass script?

>>69349660
Exceot Finana is too retarded to be apart of shit like that. Bitch can't keep a secret to save her life and is genuinely retarded

>>69349718
Sorry its being proven by the patterns people are putting together right now.

The cope is you calling it a cope.

>manager's manager
I forgot about that part but it really make sense if clique is the management

Why are there so many ESLs in supas?

PARASOCIAL FUCKS DON'T GASLIGHT ME

>>69349542
Yes, please. She is finally inclining. If she gets sucked back into this stuff she is going to get tainted again.

>>69349475
I'm glad all this coverage is helping clear Sayu, she's even become a 4view recently

>>69349549
There's no problem, I'm satisfied enough with the answers you have given about the claims presented.

The whole thing about Niji terms needing Niji perms to listen to Niji songs just reminds me of this
https://twitter.com/anyamelfissa/status/1755161247178461550

I'm sorry, Zaion, but you have to pay your dues first.

>>69349792
its the divinity of memetics

SHE GASLITED ME YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS

BASED

>He subbed to Sayu
based

This guy is based

>>69349831
I'm pretty sure that was just a false strike.

>>69349835
I can't believe Elira is the Shawn Michaels of Vtubing...

>Legal Mindset subbed to Sayu
KEK
this is so fucking unreal

>>69349323
Again that’s not what the “leak” said. The only potential bullying from management and not the clique that was stated in the leak was that Yugo was lumped in with the female livers as far as management goes. Which isn’t even that big of a deal because
>Yugo doesn’t identify as male so putting her in with the women is no different that putting her with the men
>the only reason she became Yugo and not a female liver was because she was retarded and thought that she couldn’t apply to the JP branch due to not living in Japan at that time and just so happened to apply the time Niji was gearing up for a male wave