/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69305644
Nobody wants a dramabird.

I wouldn’t want Vshojo, either

It would be fiscal mismanagement to willingly pick up an active lawsuit.

>>69305644
Based. Fuck that place.

>>69305644
Why would she want to join a corpo when she's pulling 20k+ ccv as an indie?

>>69305644
>Iron Mouse couldn’t save her
>Mata does acknowledge her
It’s fucking over.

>>69305784
That's if the drama last forever which it won't. She'll be the Palworld of vtubers.

>>69305644
She didn’t want VShojo. Mouse slid in her dms for sure.

>>69305879
Even when the drama subsides she'll still be at least 4-5k CCV which is a LOT of cashflow for an indie.

Thank God for that, she'd be the only entertaining one in the whole group.

>>69305644
She was going back to streaming 2 days after she was fired which came to a surprise even for herself and she's currently riding a big drama wave in which Vshojo probably doesn't want to get caught in.
Come back in some months because these things take time.

>>69305644
Phase would want another menhera.

>>69305644
There's no point in someone like her joining a corpo if it isn't Hololive. It would only benefit the company and not herself.

wow sisters, keep on trying flooding the general, and forcing dramabird down our throats, its totally organic

>>69305953
Vshojo is poaching nijis
I dont think they care

>>69305644
and thats a bad thing because????, are you aware that everybody hates vshitshow here?, are you retarded anon?

>>69306094
They were actually only approached after they were already graduating. Both Mata and Kuro talked about this. And neither of them were involved in this kind of drama.

>>69306035
Except it's the other way around. Why would she cripple her income by accepting huge cuts and giving up all the freedom she enjoys to join hololive when she can enjoy indie+ status in vshojo and get a management team that works for her? There's a reason no 4view wants to join hololive.

I don't know why anyone who isn't basically incompetent would want to join in the first place. She's got the audience already, she's got a manager/agent, and she's got a lawyer. That's really all you need.

The only ones who joining makes sense to me are the ones who are obviously being offered some huge payment upfront because them being under the brand is better for the brand than the brand is for them.

>>69305879
>>69306227
There is precedent for them picking up a controversial former corpo chuuba after waiting for the drama to die down.

>>69305935 is right though, even if she gets half of that she'll be doing pretty well without a corpo taking half of it. She found a good manager and can get collab partners through existing connections and Apex.

>>69305644
Why did you edit her eyes? I liked her eyes.
She looks so fucking weird with two purple eyes.

>>69306555
Geega also had an entire team and even an agency work for her and she still joined Vshojo and it ended up benefiting her opportunities and she saw some good growth afterwards. There's no evidence that Vshojo even offers a huge payment upfront and why would they, they are more like an agency than most vtuber orgs.

>>69306678
I think Geega has a weird deal going on, she's still on her old agency's talent page and her business email is still on their domain.

>>69305644
Source?

>>69305697
This
Fpbp

>>69306842
Because Vshojo isn't an exclusive contract. That's not something Geega specific.

she literal crazy and a suicidal

>>69305644
Joining Vshojo is something that's arranged months in advance, and they only recruit vtubers who are good friends with one or more current members. That's why there's speculation that Mika and Pomu might end up reappearing in Vshojo. She might join in the future if she befriends some of the current members through collabs, and she likes the offer they make her like what happened with GEEGA. There's also plenty of big indies who don't really feel the desire to join, but collab with Vshojo members often like filian and Shylily.

>>69306227
>They were actually only approached after they were already graduating.
like Nazuna?

>>69306959
But I can't imagine she's letting two different agencies take a standard cut to do the same job. My guess is she's almost entirely managed by the old one and just giving Vshojo a much smaller cut to be associated with them for the exposure boost.
And no, that doesn't undermine your point, I wasn't aiming to. If anything it's a reason someone Doki might look to them if her numbers started flagging but she liked her existing manager.

>>69307030
selen never really collabed much with nina
she collabed with melody, but i can't think of anyone that's joined vshojo through mel

>>69307030
>That's why there's speculation that Mika and Pomu might end up reappearing in Vshojo
God I hope not. They deserve better

>>69306490
Reread that post, that's what was said. With her audience joining a corpo has little benefit, especially if her new manager is good

>>69307330
Kson was friends with Mel. She even wanted to collab while she was with Holo, but was blocked.

>>69306043
>its totally organic
Of course you Nijisister defenders of the DramaBird are vegans.

>>69305644
25k, She is above corpos right now, making more money than pekora

>>69307495
Are you a new hire? You're confused on three different levels here.

>>69307318
They are not doing the same job. You might not believe it but some talents want more than one manager to handle different events, projects, merch or social media.

>>69307453
Maybe you should read the post again because the anon implied the only corpo that would benefit her is Hololive.

>>69307495
lmao what the fuck am I reading here

>>69305644
She is on par with asmongold and moistcritikal, give it a year and she will start her own company

>>69305644
After Nazuna, I don't blame them.

Vshojo are just streamers with an anime avatar.

Doki is still a vtuber.

>>69307707
I laugh at my own jokes too.

>>69307495
>vegans

>>69307495
sister, your google translate reps...

>>69305644
Why would they want someone who records private conversations, breaks rules, and now has the most obnoxious, happy to harass, followers? Inviting her is inviting drama. Selen also doesn't need VShojo at this point with all the boosting from the drama videos and Twitter posts.

>>69308221
It's pretty simple
1. you're nijisisters
2. you're still nijisisters despite what you say
3. you defend dramabird who is still a niji-tier chuuba
4. you're vegans because you obsess over things being organic
5. you're being clowned for showing a persistent inability to experience humor

>Nobody has any idea what Vshojo does, what their cut is or how they operate in general
Wow, look at the time. It is SEA'o'clock.

bait aside, even if they wanted her now is not the time. maybe 2+ months AFTER the end of this shit.

>>69307330
Froot

She doesn't need Vshojo.

EA heard she was fired and immediately reached out to her to see if she was okay. E-Fucking-A.

Hyte canceled their sponsorship with Niji and has reached out to her since then.

Twitch was relieved to find out she didn't go exclusive with YouTube.

She doesn't need Niji or Vshojo.

>>69307330
Mysta who?

>>69308580
The funniest part is until riku fixes shit like he said in the video and hiring notices, they manage as much as niji while putting out more publicity and merch and giving talents a bigger cut.

Vshojo stopped being desirable for big indies a while ago

>>69308830
Bugfuck insane possibility: future EN corpo built around the infrastructure she builds for herself.

>>69308830
>She doesn't need Vshojo.
Nobody in Vshojo needs Vshojo.
They stay there because it benefits them and for the group.

>>69308524
>They think they can pose as bronies
Everyone liked Selen sis, you have no angle

>>69305879
So you mean she'll go to one third her active numbers, that's still more than most indies.

>>69305644
No corp is going to want someone with that much baggage and known to be insubordinate.
Matara knows what kind of person she is and is distancing herself from her.
It's not a coincidence that Matara is still attaching to Pomu and is acting like Selen doesn't exist.

Niji effectively crippled their growth in the West too. Unless someone is insane they won't want to join EN. Even more so with the 2% cut being much more known, the complete lack of support, canceled projects, and the slave wages.

Cover not getting Pomu and Selen is by far the biggest fuckup EN has ever had.

>>69308947
No, it's still desirable, maybe even more so than a year ago.

>>69309291
I'm sure Cover would have loved to have a mentally unstable, rule breaker, frequent male collaber with them.

>>69309390
but enough about Noel

>>69309291
Do cover steal talent? isn't that like reserved for shitty coprs?

>>69309161
>Everyone liked Selen sis
That would be a good joke if you weren't so serious about it. Nobody liked her. They just hate Nijisanji or were chasing clout. Like all those artist alley webshops didn't waste any time to link people to their sales pages. I like many others only watched her for the drama, not because her annoying laugh is so amazing.

>>69309390
That hasn't stopped them from hiring people before.

>>69309390
Only breaking nijishithole rules because they are designed to be broken and breaking nijisister rules because the only rule is you suck niji cock or you are an enemy.

>>69309291
Maybe if Niji pulls out of EN they won't pressure Cover to block Kiara and Mumei from collabing with their reincarnations.

>>69305644
they probably have insider knowledge of what the real deal is.

>>69309291
Cover Corp has better 2views auditioning. Why would they hire stuck up 2views that already turned into primadonnas? Besides, Selen's only creative talent was spending money to have other people do her creative work for her. Cover Corp is interested in a different kind of creative talent.

hear me out:
>Misumi (Lulu)
>Pomu
>Doki
>Rosemi
>Pippa
make a group, or join one.

>>69309662
million dollar club

>>69309637
>Selen's only creative talent was spending money to have other people do her creative work for her. Cover Corp is interested in a different kind of creative talent.
Damn

>>69309507
It's amazing how the board used to shit on the fat dragon predator fraud but now she's everyone's darling.

>>69309523
That's no way to talk about yourself and you past (2 weeks ago) actions. You fail to realize that people don't only hate nijisanji because they have exploitative hiring policies for grunt office workers. It's also because of the people they hire, the content, their company culture, and their fans.

Vshojo has been trash since it started.
The only redeeming thing about them is Henya

>>69309801
They're like the BLM rioters.
They pretend to give a shit about bullying, but are just looking for an excuse to burn shit down and harass others.

>>69309770
I'm tired of pretending that it's not the truth.

>>69307318
Geega said MSM and Vshojo both handle different things. Gave the metaphor of an actor being in 2 agencies.

>>69309866
the only good take in the thread

>>69309911
No, but Doki is so amazing, creative, and talented. Just listen to her laugh!

>>69305644
if she really got bullied, no one would still want her cause bully victims get bullied for a reason. If bullying was not true then you’ve got a liar or a mental snowflake in your hand. No corpo would want her either way

>>69309866
>>69309950
t. catalog sheep

>>69309977
Yeah, I heard she already put out the call or tweets asking for artists, animators, and other creative types to collect a paycheck. Lets see what her new lease on financial creativity will bring.

>>69308580

>>69309866
they were good up until nyan shilled her boyfriend constantly. ironmouse and nyanners collabs were kino. vshojo hasnt been the same since the three left

>>69305644
>Vshojo didn't want her
Source?

>>69310564
Mouse's silence

>>69310601
Ah. She's threatened by a more dramatic vtuber huh?

>>69307011
So true male sister

>>69305879
Disagree, if she goes back to organising big events for chuubas and other streamers she'll probably retain most of her relevance. She did a LOT of networking a Selen and has lots of connections that she can use to organise huge collab events without management autism holding her back for arbitrary reasons. Besides, as an indie even having half the viewers and subs of a corpo chuuba probably gives a similar payout since you don't have the company taking a cut.
This is of course assuming some bombshell about her being a shitty person doesn't happen that causes people to ostracise her, but I don't think that'll happen. If that bombshell did exist, we'd most likely know about it by now.

>>69309770
True, but being a producer is a creative talent in itself. Too bad she's one that sucks at finance, lmao.

>>69307330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWRQ-ly2Zsk
>I don't know Ironmouse, is it a mouse?

>>69305747
Nazuna?

I can believe they wouldn't. Not because of drama or a judgement of her, but because it would be extra work. You guys don't understand how fucking LAZY VShojo management is.

>>69313598
Nijisis stop projecting

>>69313661
No. Trust me I'm not. I'll remind you Vshojo shit up it reputation because its management half-assed their auditions. A year long process. Only hired one person because they were busy with the jap branch that only got two people.
Also Niji mangament isn't lazy. Niji management is malicious. That's much worse.

>>69305644
>Tries to commit suicide twice
>Destroying the company she was just in
Hmmmm yeah what's the worst thing that can happen

>>69310745
Gura's silence is also deafening.

>>69314513
>he is not a member

>>69313869
>Niji management is malicious.
source?

>>69305935
She'll make even more by having an attempt whenever the views get low

>>69305697
>Mike

>>69305644
Remember it took a couple months before getting Nazuna.

Maybe they announce her for Anime Expo.

>>69309457
Why do nijisisters always go for the lies that can be easily disproven?

>>69309977
>No, but Doki is so amazing, creative, and talented. Just listen to her laugh!

id rather listen to kiara

>>69305644
Good, I rather have a Froot Apex collab twice a year than having that bitch on every collab

>>69309637
>he wrote this while Ame does the same
>implying its a negative thing
Based Nijinig

>>69314739
Keep up motherfucker it's all we've been talking about for weeks

>>69313464
That's more like an active volcano.

>>69310745
>Oh no my latest suicide attempt has caused me to develop AIDS isn't that tragic? Send Money please

>>69305697
Then why won't you NDF faggots shut up about her?, So deliciously obsessive to tear her down because you realize there is literally no other way to defend your inbred corpo

>>69305863
She pulls in better numbers than both of them combined

>>69305879
>Compared to highest selling video game of ALL TIME on steam
>As if it was a bad thing
You retards are the gifts that keep on giving, More entertaining than any of your fujobait oshis could ever be

>>69305697
>don't want drama
>hired fucking Rushia and Coco

>>69311087
Nijifags have unironically poisoned the well so much by trying to artifically FORCE a bombshell that they've instead made her reputation fucking Ironclad, The only person who can fuck up her reputation at this point would be herself and it will be for something entirely unrelated to this if it EVER happens

>>69305879
Palworld after all this time still has 400k+ players

thats before new content/dlc

>>69309507
>Nobody liked her
That's why she was the most popular female talent in Nijisanji, right?

>>69313464
That's why they dropped her

>>69309801
>people are not allowed to change their opinion when presented with new information

Is this why you stick to Nijisanji like a stubborn cum stain?

>>69314005
Are you retards really saying dokibird is more of a brand risk than fucking MICHAEL CAT?

>>69316932
Sounds like something enna would say while poorbaiting her audience
>No guys seriously i might be homeless next week if you don't donate to me

>>69317142
BUT SHE RECORDED MILORD **WITHOUT HIS CONSENT**

GAWK GAWK GAWK

>>69317225
I dunno man, she's single handedly dismantling NijiEN. Could be your company next if she's for some reason unhappy and tries to kill herself again. Miguel del gatito is just a menhera.

>>69305935
I will still be watching her at 25,000, 5,000 or 500. Nijifag retards can seethe in perpetuity.

>>69317373
NijiEN is singlehandedly dismantling itself. Reminder that Doki has stated nothing except clarifications of Niji's statements about her and call for peace.

>>69317373
You say that but companies are tripping over each other to get in her good graces right now. You'd think a brand risk would be avoided like the plague like Sayu was for a while.

>>69317373
>Niji should have avoided this if they graduated her like she wanted, in good terms
>they went full retard and shoot themselves into oblivion
Lmao, it was their fault, they killed themselves

>>69317210
kurosanjiEN being shit from the start is not really a big surprise but that doesn't make selen any better now. concern fags like you don't care about her anyway, whe even pretend to do so? >>69309910 had a point there. keep seething little monkey, I dislike your new fat chink queen just as I did before

>>69317773
>concern fags like you don't care about her anyway, whe even pretend to do so?
Go ahead and prove that statement. You said it with such confidence.

>>69317426
>>69317690
I mean she is literally, the reason why NijiEN is dying right now. Yeah they deserve it.

The thing is, the next company that hires her may also deserve it, and it would be risky for them to hire her if they aren't sure.

>>69317773
Yes. We don't actually care. That's why the dragoons didn't raise an actual storm during the month Selen was gone. As another anon said, I'm pretty sure a dragoon would've kyoani'd anycolor if she actually succeeded.

>>69317899
>and it would be risky for them to hire her if they aren't sure.
If you're unsure if you're running a black company with incompetent and malicious management, you're definitely running a black company with incompetent and malicious management.

>>69317899
It's only risky if they're absolute fucking dogshit at their jobs. Otherwise she's a gold mine if they let her actually complete projects and support her properly.

>>69317909
Did you miss the people spamming hashtags in every post niji made in twitter?

>>69305697
Fpbp

>>69305644
Why would she downgrade? Vshojo hiring bottom hangers from nijiEN isn't much of a long term strategy.

>>69317966
Yes because it was getting tiring not knowing where the fuck she was. Stealth suspension garbage needs to fucking go.

>>69307030
Don’t think vshojo wants Pomu ‘cus they know what she did to Doki

>>69317946
I'm not naive enough to think any sizable company can avoid all HR issues through good management. There will be some bad employees that hurt other employees and middle management is going to be a festering pocket that prevents upper management from knowing anything before it turns into a huge PR mess. Just look at Blizzard, for a long time the C-suite were prevented from knowing all the harassments were happening. Just look at the Chinese government, you think Xi has any real visibility? Even if you think you're not a black company, well, maybe you are, maybe you aren't, how can you be sure unless you're literally the only manager?

>>69318206
This is a retarded take because internal and external auditing exists for a reason.

>>69309390
Fun Fact: Kuriji Ollie and Shirokami Fubuki both work for Cover, despite being exactly what you said.

>>69318270
Well apparently that doesn't help if everybody's just lying and protecting each other.

>>69305644
No matter if she's right or not, she's considered a brand risk now.

>>69318206
Too true; because it's impossible to guarantee you'll avoid it, you shouldn't bother with any sort of prevention whatsoever. Genius.

Captcha, I shit you not: RTRRD.

>>69309210
Vshojo literally hired mikeneko and kson who both had more baggage than Selen. Why do you fans not understand that Selen would have zero reason to join any corpo. She has a manager, a lawyer, industry connections all over the place and her own base of friends to collab with. She's going to end up as the western Shibuya Hal. She'll be hiring her own vtubers in a year

>>69318181
Then why are Zen, Froot, Kuro, and Mata all following notPomu now?

>>69309459
Luna and Polka

>>69318392
I didn't say that, but I'm used to strawmans when from people too angry to form arguments.

Verification not required.

>>69317143
And it has devs based enough to basically say “It’s okay if you want to play other games. It’ll still be here when you want to come back.”

>>69318331
Yes, in a situation where every single person you've ever hired into your company was immediately indoctrinated into a psuedo-corporate airtight grand conspiracy that operates directly under your nose with no mistakes all for the sake of just bullying the shit out of people, then yeah you're pretty fucked. But not even cartels, mafias and or the yakuza who threaten their members with torture and sometimes death, have managed to keep everyone in line with their mouths shut.

>>69308830
>yidditspacing
drama brings in tourists

>>69318181
>he doesn't know
Like half of vshojo follows notPomu on twitter while not a single one of them follows dookiebird kek

>>69305644
Says who? None of the recent layoffs have joined them yet either. As a matter of fact, no layoff Vtuber has ever joined another company right away. They have to stay away from other vtubing companies for awhile due to ndas and stuff, you retard.

>>69318478
Yeah it leaks out, but oftentimes too late. The problem is middle management telling upper management everything is fine to protect their own asses. In the Blizzard example it did leak out, as evident of its current state, but after enough employees were harassed and that was already too late to prevent the company's downfall. And Blizzard is a REAL example. It's not some thought experiment. It really happened, really recently.

>>69318600
It's probably because the fire is still burning. Gotta wait for it to be put out. Are any Holos following her? I assume Mumei?

>>69318652
>Yeah it leaks out, but oftentimes too late.
This is why frequent audits are an important part of any corporate plan.
>The problem is middle management telling upper management everything is fine to protect their own asses.
This is why external audits exist. You can lie to your boss, you can even get buddy buddy with the auditing team to save your ass but good luck lying to the guy who's job it is to systematically going through every single file on your desktop, every email and every piece of trash you ever threw out whilst you're not allowed to talk to him.

Blizzard was a shit show, agreed. But that doesn't account for quite literally every other company that does have good internal and external auditing practices and has managed not to yab itself into oblivion.

Vshojo would be a debuff for Doki.
She probably gets more support from people if she stays indie.

>>69318428
While not following doki? I’m sure you can figure it out.

>>69318788
More audits would be good, but say for example you're the CEO, and you request internal and external audits. How do you trust the info you receive? I guess you'd have to directly be in contact with the external auditor because your direct reports could be fudging things to keep their jobs.

But enough about Blizzard, we are watching this exact problem play out live in NijiEN. Seems like the clique had enough sway to prevent NijiJP side from knowing how big of a problem the harassment was and most of the other NijiENs were complicit in at least their silence until it all broke out.

>>69318866
I seriously doubt that.

>>69318901
Zen is following Doki.

>>69318910
>Seems like the clique had enough sway to prevent NijiJP side from knowing how big of a problem the harassment was
This all stems from Riku being a short sighted retard who's only concern is with quarterly targets. Why spend money on auditing your branch when it's ticking over just fine? Until it eventually explodes because of the compounding issues.

>this entire thread is literally just 2 ESLs trying to communicate
sasuga

>>69318982
I don't think many companies do spend much on preventing HR issues. Most of the time employees are just told: "hey speak up if you're getting harassed we promise there will be no retaliation ;)". I've worked for a few companies in the US and have never received an interview from an external auditor.

>>69318468
if only they took over pokemon, we might get a good game this gen for that franchise.

>>69319065
If you're in the industry of managing creatives, you fucking absolutely need to invest in good HR because your job is one step above actual tard wrangling.

>>69318866
kson went through similar shit with a company treating her poorly so she'd be perfect to work with desu.

>>69319119
I don't think these companies have the finances to do so. Cover still pays their employees absolutely insulting salaries. A flatter corporate structure is probably the answer. Less middle management, and talents especially need to be able to send quick DMs to the C-suite. I doubt Riku would be open to that but Yagoo seems like he has his DMs open.

>>69305697
>nazuna

>>69319138
there's a difference between cover being retarded and anycolor being straight up evil

>>69315202
It's funny that vshitshow probably hired her with the hope of le saviorfagging another vtuber that abused by le big agency, only to realise that she is a nuke that can sink the whole agency.

>>69319231
>Cover still pays their employees absolutely insulting salaries
That's their base salary. Most of their income comes from stuff like merch and donos.

>>69305935
Too high. I'll give her 1-3k. Maybe 5 if it's a big stream like anni or new costume

>>69319307
she could also just stay indie and do stuff with everyone anyways, there are no restrictions as an indie.

>>69306094
None of the Niji's the poached have the level of drama that Doki is in rn.

>>69319415
Why are vshojo antis so delusional? Are you saying the same about Voice Ore too?

>>69319574
Nice cope. She's also gonna end up getting a lot of refugees once NijiEN goes under.

>>69319620
They had never poached anybody with Rushia levels of drama, until they did.

>>69319481
Cover has like 400+ employees and only 86 of those are talents. The regular employees have a shit salary and I doubt they get any bonuses from donos though maybe merch if they're responsible for it.

>>69309977
Even gura is more creative and talented. She doesn't stream and still win an award.

>>69319620
Doki is the victim of a company acting stupid, LITERALLY did nothing wrong.

Best outcomes for each of them: doki to vspo en, leading them to the best up and coming branch
pomu to holo, if she still has idol dreams
mika and kyo to vshojo, best culture fit, mika kuro kyo will be a hit

>>69319854
I fucking hope not. She's made it clear time and time again she has no interest in actual esports and it just ends up stressing her out.

vshojo don't just airdrop contract and hire people on the spot the second they become free agents
henya, matara and kuro were all in talks with vshojo for like 3 - 5 months before being announced

>>69319823
You don’t have to do anything wrong to be involved in huge drama. Remember the whole Coco Taiwan thing?

>>69319653
We've seen this exact shit multiple times. The drama honeymoon will end eventually. Kson is a perfect example. Nobody cares about her a couple months after her graduation

>>69309390
Selen has way more rapport with homostars than hololive girls do. If Yagoo wants to enter the fujoshi market, he will seek out vtubers EXACTLY like Selen.

>>69317418
based dragoon

>>69319991
right, so it wouldn't be a risk to take either her or doki, but indie may be the way to go (for now).

>>69319991
It was actually her fault though. Don't compare the reddit dragon with the based purple dragon

>>69320036
idk. She seems happy enough. Not everyone needs to be 10m dead sub numberfags. As long as she's happy where she is I don't see a problem. I'll watch Doki and Sayu even if they tank down to 2view as long as they keep being those bright balls of sunshine.

Y'all ignoring the fact that regardless of what other groups want, she has a based manager, good stats at least for now, freedom from copyright, and most importantly complete freedom to do any project *with sponsorships*. If situation changes sure but right now she's probably happiest staying where she is

>>69320309
>Y'all
go back to xitter troon

>>69320224
ah yes the crime of mentioning taiwan on a map of taiwan on a show.

>>69305644
Honestly, screw Vshojoke. That fleshtuber whore company can crash and burn for all I care.

why are vshojo beggars so goddamn pathetic?

>>69320817
>>69320936
DOOKIESEETHE

>>69307425
Where the fuck else are they go other than indie?

>>69320817
You tell em sis

Stop calling her dramabird.

>>69319644
Why are Vshojobeggars so delusional? Are really that desperate to get approval for your disgusting twitch whore company?

>>69321136
Mika's prob going Vshojo with her new boyfriend. Real happy for them and I hope it works out. Pomu... I haven't really paid attention but I remember hearing in a twitter space I tuned in for a few minutes that she has no real plans on reincarnating immediately and just wants to chill and sperg out on otaku stuff for a bit while she learns Japanese.

>>69320987
Are you unhappy with Doki being an indie and want her to join Vshojo? why are you so desperate?

>>69320987
Don't you have a sinking yacht to save? Fucking retard.

>>69321268
>>69321333
RENT L FREE

>>69321218
>can't even answer the question
I don't care for your approval but it's funny to shit on pathetic retards like you who are unable to formulate a cohesive argument. It just happens a lot of those are vshojo antis.

>>69321136
why are you acting like that stinky whorehouse is any better than nijishitji?

>>69321388
Whaever helps you sleep at night, Vshojobber/Nijishitter.

>>69321242
Yeah she's taking a break (waiting on a new model too probably), but, Mata already has her in the pocket + Henya is already there. And honestly she'll probably blow up way more with her return over at VSJ rather than the middling she did at Niji

>>69321473
Because it objectively is chumpedo

>>69321473
Vshojo was mogging Niji even before this drama. Niji's completely out of gas.

That said, I think it'd be best if Doki stayed away from it for now, if only for her own health. After shit like that it's best to take it easy, not that Niji will let her...

>>69321423
Your desperation is showing, WhoreShojo shill. Too bad your "corpo" is not relevant as (You) think it is, filthy beggar.

>>69305644
Why would she join a corpo run by a "mean-girls" clique after she just left one?

>>69321750
Why you mad little seanog? Mammy didn't give you the big rice bowl?

>>69321750
>still no argument
I'm enjoying seeing you seethe impotently at Vshojo's success, keep it up.

>>69321592
>>69321669
Niji being an unsalvageable black corpo doesn’t excuse vSchizo from being a shitty twitch corpo full of fleshtubers and whores. Every ex-Holo/Niji talent that joined the corpo became significantly worse afterwards. The only one whose content remained mostly same was Nazuna... until she's revealed out to be an actual whore with mental issues IRL.

My rrat on why she won't join VSHOJO is it will fuck up her Bilibili streams. Unfortunately because Kson is in VSHOJO and is still hated for all the Taiwan drama.

selen is good friends with mel and kson respects her alot she can easily get in vshojo if she wanted but i dont think selen applied in the first place. mouse or gunrun most definitely slid on her dms a poach attempt. dont try to twist the situation faggot

>>69305644
ypu have to be at least 2/10

>>69321750
its far more relevant now than you black company sister

>>69321869
>>69321982
>Nuh nuh nuh, muh shitty corpo is better than your shitty corpo
Many such cases.

Also, vShojo's success? What "success" lol?

>>69321176
I will start calling her dramabird from now on

>>69322436
It's as "relevant" as someone taking a dump lmao

>>69322457
streamer of the year? has streamers than can actually compete and at times surpass holo numbers? meanwhile your black company can barely squeeze 3 views out its shithole and is now rapidly losing all its influence

>>69320738
Yes. It was her fault. Thanks for the clarification

>>69320936
Jealousy, obviously. Also because they make their brand by mocking the traditional concept of vtubing, so the existence of any successful traditional (read: non whore) vtuber piss them off

>>69322459
Of course you will, dramasanji bootlicker.

>>69322631
Nope. I just want to piss you off.

>>69322551
keep telling yourself that sister soon milord will be begging for scraps on the side of the road beside walmart.
ironmouse her self your entire en chinese branch easy

>>69307744
>sits on millions of cash instead of spend it immeditly
>creates new Corpo with Mr.Mans guidance
>Call it "All Hues"
>Become overnight heavy weight some how
Absolutely KINO. Like a phoenix rising from the asses of Selene Tatsuki

>>69322682
Vstroke anonchama...

>>69305644
They already hired one BPD menhera before and it worked out as you would expect

>>69321578
seethe

>>69322731
keep licking that black boot sister its all gonna dissolve soon

>>69322576
>still acting like that twitch-sponsored award show is anything of value
Pfft.
>has streamers than can actually compete and at times surpass holo numbers
kson and...?

Also what makes you think I give a fuck of the 2% corpo lol

>>69321242
After what Pomu did to Doki?probably the best call

>>69322682
You don't have to be a sister to shit on vshojo and its beggars.

>>69322680
Your efforts are negligible.

kson hates chinks

>>69322861
keep coping vshojo has the twitch audience locked down and monopolized while you sisters are dying trying to compete with hololive and suffering the consequences of your “all out war”.
you faggots are like kittens trying to fight dinosaurs and come crying and trying to pick a fight with us once you finally learn you irrelevant fucks cant hang with the big boys at hololive

>>69322900
And what Pomu did to Doki? BTW half of vshojo follows notPomu while not a single one of them follows dookiebird, so think before you answer :)

>>69323001
It works pretty well and it doesn't take any effort lmao

>>69322927
>sister is so ashamed of herself shes now trying to hide her identity
bitch just make an onlyfans and show me your tits you will get more money from me than your small discord group of trannies trying to defend your black corpo

>>69305644
I see why

>>69305697
fpbp

>>69322852
>>69323049
Keep assuming everyone who hates your precious twitch whore corpo gives a shit about the black corpo, retard.

>>69305644
Shouldn't want what doesnt give a shit about you in the first place.

>>69323026
Based. And I bet she's ecstatic to soon have a fellow Georgia girl in Vshojo with her.

>>69323086
Which probably means they approve of what Anykuro did

>>69323267
HOLY BASED I WILL NOW WORSHIP VSHOJO

>>69323026
More like kshart fears the based CHINAMAN lmao

>>69323217
keep seething sister i totally get it the only thing you care about milord’s cock is gonna get thanos’ before your eyes because they just wont show a dumb music video LMAO

>>69305644
She's supposed to be an elite gamer but couldn't even killbind in two tries, would you?

>>69323267
ok but what pomu did to doki?

>>69305697
You NDF schizos still trying to force this?

>>69323405
She slapped her in front of Riku

>>69305644
Source: OP's ass.

She probably didn't even ask them. She's not that close with any Vshojos. She wasn't very close with Nina either. Going indie is best for her.

>>69323424
Sounds based to me

>>69323424
on the ass

>>69307495
>Vegans
Hahahahahah a fucking chink

>>69323149
> vShojotranny so mad that he resorts to projecting
You incels are as unhinged as Nijincels.

>>69323049
>twitch audience
No wonder their "fanbase" is so cancerous.

>>69323405
Take part in the abuse

>>69323049
Twitch is dying you retard

>>69323607
What abuse? Do you have proof? Because Pomu was not the one named in the legal documents. It was Elira, Millie, Enna, Vox and Ike.

>>69323366
Oh yeah? For all I know you could be a nijicuck pretending to be a vshojocuck.

>>69305644
don't kid yourself, unless vshojo hates money

>>69309507
Holochad here
When Lazulight debuted I had a bad feeling about them. I kept my distance. When obsydia debuted I felt no such thing about them except for feeling like petra was a doormat and rosemi having had her brain surgically removed. Call it schizo intuition, but with every other wave I kept having that feeling of "this seems fake, they don't feel like good people" except for scarle and zaion.

I only recently unsubbed from rosemi and a few others due to this recent happening. History has proven my intuition right.

>>69323329
They sure are desperate to get her in their e-whore corpo.

>>69323805
>things that didn't happen

>>69323813
If by desperate you mean desperately avoiding her to not be anywhere near the drama she's in then yeah

>>69323849
>no argument

>>69323607
Knowing Pomu, she probably tried to stop the abuse but couldn't do much because of certain courrpt individuals having too much power. It's likely one of the reasons why she left.

>>69306952
>>69318031
>>69323202
organic

Black company vs Fleshtuber(person with avatar) company

>>69323881
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Sounds like a solid argument to me dawg

>>69323805
I starting watching vtubers around late 2022 and I never got any bad vibes from Pomu. Finana on the other hand....

>>69323904
Nah, it was to sidestep the incoming reckoning

>>69315373
Quantity over quality model of Russky/Chink-inspired Agitprop

>>69324002
Go back, /k/troon. Nobody care about your jewish war in the vtuber board of all thinvs

>>69323988
Finana always felt like a disaster in the making to me. Pomu felt like condensed desparation to me. Like damaged goods. Finding out about the /b/omu stuff helped me finally place those feelings.

>>69323667
Pretty sure Not everyone was named in the docs

>>69323872
Oh crap I replied to the wrong post. >>69323813
was meant for >>69323086
I don't want those vshojo whores anywhere near Pomu.

>>69324048
>Pomu felt like condensed desparation to me. Like damaged goods
I don't understand this take. And what's thIs /b/omu stuff? Some kind of rrat?

>>69323999
I'd say it was both.

>>69324280
pomu posted her nudes on /b/ back in the day when she wasnt pomu. She also used to get into fights on /cgl/
What's there not to understand? I had a feeling about her, just from the first impression she made on me.

>>69305644
Anyone wants to deal with a proven suicidal maniac is beyond retarded.

>>69305697
This. So much this.

>>69324742
truly based sis

>>69305879
Which would still make her above NijiEN. They will never reach such numbers again.

>>69305644
Matara was part of the clique that allegedly harassed her.

you really think she wants to join another corpo? and one that has a member of the clique that hates her? here's to (you)

There's no one at vshojo selen even liked that much

>>69325609
Why the fuck would she?

Selen collabed and is friend with the most important member of Vshojo.

>>69305644
What does Vshojo offer that she doesn't currently have as an indie? Especially worth paying extra for?
Anyways, there is no time limit window for joining Vshojo.

where is the source lel

>>69325701
Connor?

>>69325708
belonging to a group is always better with marketability than being alone.

>>69324742
You type like a sister

>>69325708
belonging to a group is always better with marketability than being alone.

>>69325744
Right now, they would be leeching off her.
Seems to be a long waiting line to collab with her already.
For now, the indie vs black corpo is the best marketing image.
Backed by an experienced manager who worked for xQc. That guy is good; merch and sponsorships already coming in.

>>69325819
No. That's retarded.

>>69310014
kek its another bullied kid coping post, you got bullied because they thought it was funny, not for any other reason you dumb retard

>>69326064
that's the entertainment business

>>69326308
Being indie is better than being in Wactor.

So how many times has she attempted this week?