/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Don't you have pippa's feet to jerk off to or something, "nijisister"?

>>69247520
>Saying they're all full of shit won't work this time
They're all full of shit

>>69247520
Just skimp it and are you sure this is written by someone above 18 year old?

>>69247520
Niji has been a black corpo even before selen termination, try harder sister

As someone who watches hololive more than anything both sides are fucking retarded.

There’s holes in both of the theories but yours just has the bigger holes. Your company was the one that has aired out there was bullying. If selen/doki was going to air that out is past the point as nijisanji EN branch was the one to state it and is just incriminating themselves with every step they take at this point.

>>69247520
Backstabbers gets the rope.
Tick tock, Elira.

>>69247520
Kill yourself.

>>69247520
Hey much would it cost to have a lovely night with you? I'm feeling generous and can offer you five american dollars

>>69247520
"Prease, sutoppu"

>>69247520
Nice try, no stopping the bird.

Well some 60% of these docs are jerking off about how anon doesn't like how the other side handles themselves. Compare with the gurrat, consise and only focused on the players involved, the followed up by a waterfall of evidence. The king rrat still reigns supreme

>>69247621
New Pippa feet dropped? Where?!

>>69247520
>dokidrones
Catchy, did the thinktank come up with that? Lmao
HRRRM, here we go, listen to this
>THEY
>ARE
>ALL
>FULL
>OF
>SHIT
did it work?
I think it worked.

>>69248169
>niji are the good guys
wut?

>>69247520
It's full of shit and so are you

>>69248169
Wtf I love Elira now

The Grand Unified Rrat is absolutely real, nijifags cope

>>69248059
>>69247520
pwease ewiwa he can only suck so much dick

Wumao...

>>69247520
I wonder what its like living in a fantasy world. Its absolutely incredible to me that you people can just post "evidence" that literally disproves your own point but misinterpret it in quite literally the most brain damaged way possible to twist it into fitting your narrative.
If you're going to do this, can you at least try?

>>69248452
Idiot. She has bpd she interprets normal communication that doesnt suck her cock as bullying. She is the only one that had this problem, maybe its something about her that is wrong?

>>69248295
>Russians
>Good Guys
Que?

>>69247520
Im not reading a wall of text that isn't a green text

I'm firmly in the fuck Niji and fuck their talent camp. However I gotta say there's a small part of me that does feel slightly bad for her. She's been getting brutally dragged on twitter the last couple days. The entire internet cheers every time she loses a 1,000 subs and there's another round of shit talking her. She dug her own grave but damn it looks rough.

>>69248574
I am russian. I am a good guy. I treat my oshi right.

>>69247520

>>69247520
lol, lmao even

>>69247520
Ah yes, the predicted play we knew about

>>69247520
Not OP, I'll summarize for you: it's just the usual nijicopes with not new info, not worth a read.
Selen BPD, she made 200k she spent on her own, she broke the rules, etc.

We know sister, we know. She hasn't even disputed any of those claims. Try again.

>>69247520
I can already tell that the writer has a bias against Selen in this situation just from how they worded the summary at the top of the page, why should I bother reading the rest?

>>69247520
Baiting with lewds of Judas won't work.

So what do we call this arc, the Schwesterkrieg?

The nijisisters are spamming that shit again now that the jannies are asleep I see.

>>69248572
awfully ableist of you.

>>69247520
>sister actually getting nicer pictures to shitpost with
I'll give you credit where its due.

>>69247520
>Look mom, I posted my ebin doxxsite schizobabble again

You people are absolute dogshit of "human beings."
https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-preventing-discrimination-based-mental-health-disabilities-and-addictions

>>69247520
It's opened my eyes!
I now understand that Niji(Amber Heard) management shitted on Doki's(Johnny Depp) bed(carrier) and tried to assisinate her character just like they did with Zaion!
And now delusional nijifags(#BelieveAllWomen fanatics) harassing Doki(Johnny Depp)
P.S. OP is faggot and have BPD

>>69247520
If every sister posted lewd art with their message, there would be no issue. I appreciate you making the effort towards peace.

>>69247520
Don't care. Nijisanji is still a stingy unprofessional company owned by a billionaire.

>>69248906

>>69247621
Nice argument, proving OP's point

>>69248572
But enough about you, xister

>>69247520
WOW someone really spends their time documenting this.

>t.hater of falseyed and khyo

>>69248572
>I have never actually spoken to a BPD person before in my life

>>69247520

>>69247520
holy shit it's confirmed niji staff using streamer tweeters isnt real

>>69248906
I just realized how retarded this line of thinking is
>Other graduated and terminated livers have refused (thus far) to engage
>and terminated livers
There are only two known terminated livers and its Doki (lol why would they ask her) and Sayu. I hope they're not retarded enough to reach out to Sayu for help after what they've done to her. That'd be fucking hilarious.

>but axel said they have to pay for their own projects
yes, so do a lot of other hololive talents. But they also get a base salary from cover and most likely more than 2% of their merch sales and who knows how much of their superchat/donation money
>moona said they had to pay for their travels to JP
was that ever a point
in fact what does comparisons to hololive have to do with the situation?
>permissions
permissions were not an issue for the last cup of coffee, as confirmed by niji themselves. It was including their own copyrighted characters FOR SOME FUCKING REASON
you are the company that has the rights to the character WHO DO YOU ASK FOR PERMISSIONS?
and you include that retarded conversation between selen and her manager twice in these shitty tl;drs even when it clearly shows the manager being over 24 hours late on the reply and telling her a retarded reason to delay (I have to double check permissions for our IP in this video that is trying to portray EVERYONE IN THE COMPANY IN A POSITIVE LIGHT)
the company still keeps the play buttons for some reason
try harder nijisisters

>>69249806

>>69247520
As a holochad I must say that your company is shit, I am sorry anon, but it's the truth. Now, as to whether Selen/Doki is in the right on wrong, well, it doesn't matter, it was just the straw the broke the camel's back. The signs were there, you just refused to acknowledge them.

>>69249871
>and most likely more than 2% of their merch sales
Coco claimed it was 50%

>>69247520
>As long as Selen provides no evidence of this bullying and harassment, every liver under NIJISANJI EN will continue to suffer immense levels of harassment
The alternative is that she name drops and becomes liable, especially if anything happens to the livers named, putting them in even more direct danger than AnyColor already has. I don't think Doki wants them dead or she would have name dropped by now.

What's most unforgivable here, is that AnyColor suggested to several hundred thousand angry Dragoons that their Oshi may have been bullied to suicide by their other talents. To make matters worse, they doubled down on that during the black stream, making a target out of someone who they knew was already rumored to be "the queen bee".

Elira's career is over, thanks to NijiEN. She'll never be able to work in media again, and she'll be lucky if she can ever return to Canada without fearing for her life on the daily.

That alone makes NijiEN unforgivable, even if they are guilty of a great number of other sins. They are a danger to their talents, to themselves, and to the company. They must be shut down.

It doesn't matter if Selen is an evil mastermind tried to murder someone there, this simple fact would remain true, and all disparaging Doki at this point does at this point is give the malicious branch's management more cover and support.

>>69247520
kek. You wont win this war you stupid faggots
https://rentry.org/thegurrat

>>69247520
Fucking nothing. I thought we were gonna get a spicy clap back with some actual fucking evidence. That would be juicy shit but no it's just boring "WELL IF YOU LOOK AT IT THIS WAY" retard speak.

>>69249056
She wasnt bullied. kys.

>>69250066
Where is evidence of bullying? Selen was literally a diva.

>>69247520
>it's the exact same delusional alternate reality takes that you were spamming on the catalog yesterday, but now in a rentry
yawn

>>69250173
every action they've taken since her termination leads me to believe she was very much bullied desu.

>>69249806
I wonder if the person who put this whole thing together realized how ungodly fucking stupid this makes them look

Damn I didn’t know that NDF has a 4chan front.

>>69250059
Can we add a part explaining what rrat means? I keep seeing sisters thinking it's a personal insult

>>69247520
:^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kODsoxuloA

>>69250242
nijisanji wrote a 3 page hitpiece and followed it up with another twitter notice
elira made a stream where vox and ike kept badmouthing her
that is pretty much corporate bullying.

>>69247520
More reasonable than any /vt/ post I've seen
Not that the bar is too high, most people here just write buzzword and behave like children

>>69250242
Pretty much all actions Nijisanji have taken from the termination letter onward retroactively affirm that Selen was dealing with some fucking awful people.

>>69250461
what do you mean, it's filled with strawman it really feels like home

>>69247520
This only gives Doki's lawyer more fuel to sue their asses off kek

>>69250367
Why would you need to explain things to outsiders?

>>69248059
>>69247998
>>69247993
>>69247864
>>69247621
>>69247658
These are non answers, can you see the pattern? Every thread goes like this, see how predictable they are

>>69250461
>reasonable
>for no reason in particular, not to downplay Nijisanji or the other talent's role in it or anything, they just mention how BPD people really like to try to kill themselves, but we're definitely not implying that at all, we just thought like you might like to know, but suicide is very serious and so is bullying, but BPD REALLY LIKE TO KILL THEMSELVES A LOT, just so you know, no big deal

uhuh

>>69247520
I am not going to read a single sentence holy shit my dude

>>69250530
It would only be defamation and that only makes money if somehow the sister's docs makes it into the news and drags her through the dirt. Don't wish this upon her.

>>69250627
>skipped the one that are actually answer

>>69248906
they can't turn public sentiment around in favor of them
because that means turning the sentiment towards the company around and that will never happen
while they are individuals with their own concerns about their image, they can't be separated from the company image unless they graduate

>>69247520
The GURrat vs the sister rentry kind of reminds me of this old classic.

>>69250627
>called out for being retarded
>haha, how predictable

>>69250627
It's almost like, nobody cares about your shitty document because it's a shitty document that is shitty and contains no actual argument other than 'I am right and you are wrong'

>>69249837
you forgot Yugo was a termination disguised as graduation
they probably reached to U-san, but they forgot Yugo's oshi was fucking Selen

>>69250573
Anyone who doesn't know about the GURrat at this point is probably an outsider.

>>69247520
>> I am not minimizing the impact of mental illness and suicide attempts on peoples’ lives.
> HOWEVER

>>69250430
>3 page hitpiece
it's called termination. Selen is just so retarded it takes 3 pages to list all facts and justifications.
They didnt bad mouth her lmao you fucking pussy.

>>69250876
meanwhile, cover termination

>>69248618
Where's Nina?

>>69247520
>As long as Selen provides no evidence of this bullying and harassment, every liver under NIJISANJI EN will continue to suffer immense levels of harassment that has prevented every liver from carrying out their jobs, to different extents
Stopped reading here.

Immediately there is a logic fallacy and intellectual dishonesty.

Doki does not need to provide any proof because she never made the claim that any of the talent's harassed her. That was management. Management said that. Therefore the burden of proof is now on management to disprove that claim. Logic fucking 101.

This just indicates that there was never any intention of this being a genuine discussion of the facts, it's just going to be a very poor framing attempt filled with strawmans and begging the question.

>>69250876
>Selen is just so retarded it takes 3 pages to list all facts and justifications.
we call that corporate bullying

>>69250475
if you believe the false narrative and what that menhera says.

Why in the ungodly fuck does the queen bee/Stacey bully type make my dick so diamonds?
Just the thought of taking the boss bitch submit on her knees. . .
Wtf is wrong with me bros?

EVERYBODY ON THIS THREAS IS SO FUCKING BOOORING

>>69250876
>Selen is just so retarded it takes 3 pages to list all facts and justifications
No it doesn't.
It takes one sentence to say "Due to disagreements and conduct breaches we are terminating our affiliation with Selen."

Woah.

>>69250876
cover managed to terminate a crazy husband beating liar with more dignity than anycolor terminated someone who "didnt ask permissions for characters that the company owns"

>>69248572
asmon made surprisingly good point about this,
>She has bpd she interprets normal communication that doesnt suck her cock as bullying
if this were true, her so called "not bullies" could prove this just by made public part of their conversation which selen supposedly misinterpreted, saying see, she is just menhera, but they didnt

>>69250768
Probably wouldn't have bothered reaching out at all, U-san scheduled a collab with Doki pretty much instantly.

>>69250876
Firing somebody doesnt mean you have to write 4 pages slandering them.
You have literally no reason to.
just go "Sadly we had to let them go good luck elsewhere byebye" like a normal human.

>>69250948
>someone being mentally ill means that they can't be right

So far, every action Niji has taken indicate that they think they live in a different bizzaro dimension to us, so I'll take it most of the management is schizophrenic.

>>69250972
no u

>>69250994
it means "controlling the narrative" because selen threatened to tell her false version of the story. And she did it anyway.

Why are you so problematic and misogynistic, anons?

>>69250635
sorry, i totally forgot to link my previous post >>69249280 as a reply to anyone, but yeah

if you really want to paint her at fault and say she totally deserved it because BPD, you're sadly opening up another can of worms against yourself and your "lol, she wasn't bullied"

i know i'm expecting a LOT out of you cuz of course you won't read, but who knows

>>69247520
The fact that you are trying so hard only lends credibility to the godly mouse.

uh oh sisters look what just hit the youtube algo

>>69249779
oh no no no no no
it's over for elira keks

>>69251117
Prove any of the claims the Nijisanji has made.
Now prove all of the claims Doki has made are false.

>>69251117
and they controlled the narrative by proving every point doki made so far?

>>69251025
>a crazy husband beating liar
unironically not as crazy and mentally ill as dookiebird. And she wasnt a husband beater nor cover knew anything about that.

>>69247520
Except Nijisanji is full of shit. Anybody who takes the words of these people at face value (Picrel) is full of shit and delusional. Women aren't even thinking logically they're just mad vox was exposed as the piece of shit a lot of us warned other to be.

>>69251025
That should just go to show how LE BAD she is! She's probably divorced THREE husbands! And one of them was milord!

>>69247520
Gish-galloping lies. Assertions are not facts, Retard.

>>69251117
if you're actually in the right, you don't need to control the narrative
especially if you're a billion dollar company
you just need to post the actual truth to your half a million followers

>>69251177
Ohayama is a cutie. Hope she's having fun with Reload.

>>69251117
so far the only thing they control is their own suicide

>>69251183
It was proven that she repeatedly broke the rules and that she knew why video was privated and that it was her fault.

>>69250876
> all facts and justifications

Oh you know what's the funniest shit? It directly CONTRADICTS the 15 minute video.
In the video they claimed selen's termination was due to her doxxing. But it was not present in the termination documents.

SO THE TERMINATION IS LITERALLY A 3 PAGE HIT PIECE FULL OF REASONS SELEN WAS NOT TERMINATED BY

>>69251350
and?

>>69247520
Best case scenario, you force Niji's hand into confirming or denying specific allegations, which they really, really don't seem to want to do. Taking the L is the only good option.

Or you force Doki to release her receipts, which again, Nijisanji really doesn't want.

>>69251332
It's a downgrade compared to FES.

>>69251321
They did post the actual truth.

>>69250948
Anon, even if you don't believe a single thing she said, that termination notice and the black stream were still petty. You could argue that it was purely written by management, but them saying it was their words becomes borderline coercion.

>>69250627
yeah we hate niji here.
took you long enough to realize this
gtfo from here

>>69251350
I agree with you. Now prove everything else.

Literally nobody gives a shit about 'she was terminated because she broke the rules'. Like fair enough, the rules are mostly bullshit but whatever. Nobody is upset about that. They are upset about how Nijisanji decided to terminate her and their continued conduct.

>>69250627
>Ignores posts giving actual rebuttals
>"A bunch of non answers, as predicted!"

>>69251307
It's a woman thing, see any forum dominated by females

>>69247520
Uhh... umm... s-shut up!!!!!!!!!

>>69251350
it's funny that in your proof, it also prove that nijisanji is fucking incompetent and only check for perms LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE DEADLINE

>>69251232
>nor cover knew anything about that.
imagine thinking Cover doesn't know about their employees marital status, LMAO

>>69251422
kek
maybe after they post THE ACTUAL UNEDITED CHAT LOGS

>>69251422
What truth and with what evidence?

>>69250002
This. No company that gave one iota about the safety and careers of their talents would have let Elira put up that video, much less given her a statement to read for it.

If the Nijisisters cared for the talents at all, they'd want them all out of that company ASAP. If it keeps going as it is, eventually, someone is going to die, either via suicide or murder.

>>69248906
>>69247520

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_c6E3iHugM
Anon, I need help moving on from this clip. Week has been such a shit show and I can't even look at the past through some shitty BPD-Nijisister lens

Unironically though why did Doki spend 200k on her projects if none were profitable? Specially because the zaion drama was on full swing and everyone wanted to destroy nijisanji ever since.

>>69250627
are you feeling bullied?

>>69251350
Is the prove inside the room with us right now?

>>69251602
As we all know, the mark of an upstanding individual is turning a profit.

>>69251350
Nobody fucking cares if Selen broke some shitty rules. You will need a LOT more than that if you want public sentiment to turn around. If Nijisanji had anything, they would have revealed it already.

>>69251602
Probably is one of them freaks that actually like their fans. Might be my schizo acting up though.

>>69249837
I miss Yugo's music-making streams. They were insightful.
>>69251177
kek

>>69251447
She also threatened the company, clearly with legal action. This is what happens.

>>69251602
She's passionate about giving back to her fans.

>>69251602
Because she's a hard worker and enjoys creating content.

>>69250002
>>As long as Selen provides no evidence of this bullying and harassment, every liver under NIJISANJI EN will continue to suffer immense levels of harassment
the funniest part of it, is that she dont need to, it was nijisanji who made this public first, they literally brought it to themselves

>>69250627
Based.

>>69251514
your dookie can do that. They probably didnt out of pity.

>>69248572
>Only one who had this problem
>Zaion LanZa
Fuck you

>>69250627
Unbased

>>69251602
Multitude of reasons from she's really bad with her budget to a vtuber's investment doesn't directly correlates to the direct and immediate profit.

>>69250627
>someone agree with bullshit
>they are non-answers

Kinda ironic mate

>>69251791
Zaion lanza deserved firing less than selen.

>>69250876
You don't slander your ex-employees so that they can never work in the industry again and put your livers in the firing line in the process. You CERTAINLY don't publicly do it to someone who just had an attempt. It makes it look like you are trying to get her to finish the job. And you don't turn around after that mistake, double down, and bully that same girl off the air with a black stream that puts your other talent's lives in danger AGAIN and slanders the suicide victim AGAIN.

It's like they are TRYING to get both their talents and Doki killed, one way or the other.

>>69251707
And it would have stayed private legal action if retardsanji didn't publicly try a character assassination with her termination notice.
If they had done nothing wrong, they could have sued for slander and nothing would have happened.

>>69251707
>She also threatened the company, clearly with legal action
kek
she wants the company to be legally responsible with the docs, not that the company should be legally responsible

>>69251836
But enough about Finana.

>>69251672
soulless bugmen are obsessed with their rules and hierarchy

>>69247520
You ghouls should be ashamed of yourselves. Nijisisters reflecting their abusive streamers.

>>69248172
Rrat is Doki cope. Convenient how the rrat said nothing when Doki was hanging from the ceiling.

>>69251707
So the response to legal action is...to not do anything against that legal action and instead release a 3 page document detailing the transgressions of your ex-employee that you've just fired with no warning, then release a 15 minute video with zero substance other than 'We feel very bad and don't like Selen'. None of these actions make the lawsuit go away or impact in any way, shape or form, arguably it makes the lawsuit worse.

Please explain how these actions make sense from a legal standpoint?

>>69250876
The funny thing about that 3 page hitpiece is that it revealed to the audience that "rules violation" is not enough for termination. If AnyColor had been running a tight ship and actually enforcing NDAs and rules, it wouldn't have needed 3 pages in the first place. Krysis wouldn't have leaked either. Everything coming to AnyColor is karma for not periodically auditing its EN branch and occasionally overseeing production to make sure things are working as it should.

>>69251390
I do hope they push doki over the edge to the point she shame them publicly by exposing all of them and destroying Nijisanji EN once for all but doki is too good and forgiving to do so. If Nijisanji wants a war so be it. The last thing they want is for anycolor.to end on the news here in America about their shady history. There's a reason riku bowed and apologize. Seems like the poor guy had no idea that nijiEN was such a fucking shit show. If I was riku I'd fire elira vox enna ike and millie and all of their incompetent managers and rebuild nijiEN again. But he probably won't do any of that out fear that one of them might be the one to put the final nail on the coffin for them his option is to keep them employed and happy after witnessing the shitshow.

>>69247520
Forgot this
>>69251908 (Me)

>>69251602
Stop asking questions

My dragon wife Elira is so cute

>>69251350
The reason given for her termination was seeking a lawyer and not reaching an agreement with Niji. If they fired her for breaking the rules, it would've saved them a lot of trouble if they just said that. Instead, the optics are that they fired her because she wouldn't recind her claim of workplace harassment, which looks bad.

>>69247723
It may have been written by an abominable intelligence

>>69251707
Jesus do you know how many labor and employment disputes the court goes through everyday? Do you think Selen's case is any unique? Do you think every company puts out termination notes like this?

>>69251942
I too hope Doki publicly slanders them so we can finally get this lawsuit moving and get the actual details of wtf happened

>>69249056
>Hurr if I ignure duh evidunce it mean me am rite

>>69251790
Did you not read the termination notice? AnyColor took control of her work accounts.

>>69247520
so fucking zased male sister

>>69251602
She cares about her fans. Too bad your whoreshi doesn't gives two shits about you other than raiding your wallet. Also retard it added up to that much because niji skipped on the bill and she had to pay for stuff the company was supposed to pay for out of her fucking pockets you fucking stupid retarded bitch.

>>69250066
>Actual evidence
>Believes dooki
>Dooki has evidence
>Dooki never shows evidence

>>69251602
You wouldn't get it and never will

>>69252107
>duh "evidence" in question

>>69252036
No, they terminated her for breaking the rules. Prior to termination they gave her a grave period to try to work something out but she ghosted them and then send legal papers. The lawyer stuff wasn't the reason, it just expedited the process.

>>69248612
It does, but honestly she was given multiple warnings with people wondering on which side she was even before that video.
She consciously decided to take a bet and lost big, such is life.

I wish the culprits of harrasment where made public so they could be deleted from the internet, cunts like that should not be around

>>69252236
Only way you thought this was a good meme is if your discord groupies cheered you for it
Get real nigger

>>69250270
Then you're a retard who is making assumption
>>69250635
This retard couldn't read the whole thing

Makes me laugh that sisters are still trying to defend this company
Their business practices alone are reason enough for them to burn

It feels like I am reading the mind of discordtards

>>69251859
Is not slander if she has receipts. Maybe coworkers should've not been pieces of shits? But what do I know. This is nothing but consequences of their own actions. They're getting exactly what they deserve.

>>69252223
This retard would lose its next court case

>>69248906
The only thing they're good at is throwing people under the bus. I would reverse my stance if Vox, Elira and Ike all came out and said "Nijisanji lied to us about the situation and we retract out previous statement. We will now quit in solidarity."

All would be forgiven, we can just hate Niji and not the talent.

If they don't do that, then no matter what they say or do they are still complicit with all the shit that went down so fuck em.

Like, they've essentially just been publicly shitting on Dokibird this whole time. Step one should be a public apology TO HER? At this point anything less wouldn't move the needle.

>>69252241
>send legal papers
it's been proven that the document isn't actually a legal papers

>>69252331
What do you think sisters are?

>>69252306
>This retard couldn't read the whole thing
Sorry. I wasn't retarded enough to get through it. I'll try again after my next lobotomy using Vox's demon cock.

>>69252241
If it was, then they would have just stated that. Since AnyColor did not, it was not enough of a reason to terminate her.

>>69252241
In her termination notice, the section regarding her end of affiliation only mentioned things concerning her legal action.

>>69252250
As long as she believes in what she's saying she'll be fine. If she didn't and it was some corpo bullshit then she might legit an hero.

>>69247520
Well, it worked didn't it? Everybody loves drama, that's why dramabird is so popular.

>>69252306
>assumption
it literally happened and the tweet and vid still up

>>69252388
It's not big enough for a lobotomy.
Maybe try Elira's clit.

The sisters are here again.
The only Vox would do to you is to instantly vomit from seeing you promptly followed by jumping off a bridge due to the trauma your disfigured form would inflict on him.

Selen was not fired for breaking rules, but because what she was going to say would’ve damaged Nijisanji’s reputation.

Zaion wasn’t fired for a rape joke or undermining management, but because her actions damaged Nijisanji’s reputation.

Even on the JP side Gundou wasn’t fired for the baseball joke, but for damaging Nijisanji’s reputation.

>>69252318
You'll notice that they stop replying once they begin to get caught out and then they just go into low-effort bantz mode which I take a token of their defeat and I can safely cum all over their stupid defeated chink faces.

>>69251035
this

>>69252410
Her career is over even if she did believe it.

>>69252331

>>69252223
Everything that has happened so far is Dokibird defending herself from shit Nijisanji says. Niji is the one that needs to show evidence, and all we've seen is people like the artists calling them out on lying.

>>69252236
a BPD diagnosis would actually strengthen her case if anything. For a company to willfully ignore concerns made by an employee with regards to a poison environment constitutes discrimination and ableism, according to Canadian law.

https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-preventing-discrimination-based-mental-health-disabilities-and-addictions

>>69252376
She got a lawyer to write it up in preparation for a potential lawsuit, as far as I'm concerned that legal papers.

>>69252107
>duh "evidence" in question

>>69250939
We call that Selen being a cunt who refuses to follow rules
>>69251047
>Slander them
Guess you missed the part about Selen saying she was going to sue them. They got ahead of it first. Fuck around and find out. Fuck Dooki
>>69251371
They didn't say dozing was the reason for termination retard. They said it was the reason Vox and Elira could look at the documents.

>>69252454
Maybe Nijisanji should stop doing things that if revealed to the public, would damage their reputation.

>>69252454
>Fire Selen
>Damages your reputation even further because you fired someone for being harassed
>Also reddit
Nice post.

>>69247520
Come here to cry that your big whiny faggotry was laughed out of twitter in a matter of minutes?, Boohoo dox sisters, try again with somebody that isn't as schizo as 39 "snowroach" daph

>>69252107
What evidence? Yeah, terminating her was probably fair they clearly wanted to part ways. Selen was too ambitious for niji. This doesn't look good for niji anyways.

Yeah she is an idiot who spends all her money in projects, this looks good for her, she wants to entertain her fans.

That's not in contention, don't you sisters understand? What's sinking niji isn't Doki, it's niji's fuckups. If they just stated a termination with no fluff and shut the fuck up nothing would have happened besides the usual shitposting of niji losing talents.

>>69247520
>Saying they're all full of shit won't work this time
Senpai, they're indeed full of shit.
/thread

Is this the document sister proudly showing around to sway public opinion ?
Even the normie wouldn't fall for this.

Alright sisters, you made a Rentry, though it took you a while to get it together.
So far, reading the "takeaways" section doesn't inspire any confidence but I'll see what you've come up with.

>>69252534
bugman detected

>>69252534
Selen never said she was gonna sue anybody but go off NDF Fag, I'm sure those 2 cents a day adds up

>>69252510
>in preparation for a potential lawsuit
not for a lawsuit
it's to prove that harassment exist to HR and HR should do something about it
it's never intended for lawsuit

>>69252520
>Ignores the evidence
>Turns it into a strawman about BPD
Just say you're too retarded to have read the whole thing

>>69252595
It's like an ant trying to challenge the GURRAT lion.

self reported btw

>>69252534
>We call that Selen being a cunt who refuses to follow rules
you can just say
>Selen break rules so we terminates her
calling her a cunt IS corporate bullying

>>69252595
thats right male sister.

>>69252595
They've been posting it on twatter too.

>>69251924
Still waiting on my response sister or did you fuck up?

>>69252510
>me when i make shit up
Your next move is to say you didn't then someone will do a proper writeup of what happened that you will not reply to

>>69252494
>Doki says she is going to sue
>Niji fires back at her before she can defame them
>Hurr why r day attacking me

>>69252376
Any exchange of her documents would be protected during pretrial discovery. Since she's Canadian, her documents have Canadian protection.

>>69251602
The fanbase reflects the streamer (Nijisanji)
You're really channeling your oshi right now with this self-own, kek

>>69252708
>Doki says she is going to sue
Where?

>>69252708
>me making up a fictional scenario so I can pretend to be right
We went through this in the last thread retard

>>69252758
yeah, we call it legally protected papers, not legal papers

>>69251123
well, the sisters are ableist so it cancels out

>>69252708
>lawsuit = defamation
Do you unironically think this? Also, if Doki was going to defame them, let her? Then you have the single greatest slam dunk lawsuit PR victory ever.

>>69252607
It says so on Selen's termination statment you DDF fag. Those 2 cents a day adds up. Maybe you'll leave your moms basement soon

>>69252483
Most people can live with suffering if they believe they're doing the right thing. As far as NijiEN is concerned I consider their current situation karmic blowback for what they did to Zaion. But similarly, Doki will probably suffer a similar or worse fate if even half of what NijiEN's claims about her are true.

>>69252784
NTA, but the termination notice mentions holding Anycolor legally liable

>>69251422
Well, Nijisanji has got two narratives going on. Either we go by the reason for her firing that was posted in the termination notice, which is that she was breaking rules and not following proper procedures regarding permissions, or we go by the reason given for her firing in the black stream, which is that she was threatening to release personal information of other livers, a threat that didn’t come up at any point in her termination notice, and since these narratives are fundamentally incompatible, one of these statements has to be a lie. So, which one is it?

>>69252836
So you'll believe what Selen says when it comes out of Niji's mouth?

>>69247621
Rentfree. Also why do Niji sisters feel so threatened by the existence of Phase Connect? Is this some kind of insecurity?

>>69247520
Reminder that Nijisanji is the one who outted that the bullies are livers

the gurrat claims this shadow management began before sayu was terminated yet sayu's document did not mention this at all? how can you even believe this shit

>>69252595
Woman moment
This is what happens when you only read gossip rags and then try to emulate them

>>69252708
>>69252784
>>69252789
Niji stated in the termination notice that Selen stated Niji should be held legally responsible. You fans are defending Doki and you haven't even read the documents surrounding the situation? Fucking retards.

Actually, why are you bitches even here to argue about that shit? We're perfectly happy keeping our rrats to ourselves, it's not our responsibility that some retards are breaching containment and posting shit on twitter. Go argue with them there instead.

>>69252921
sayu doesn't know yet

>>69252454
What reputation? Have you seen the type of content Nijisanji puts out? Shit there's even women carving hex name into their arms with razor blades. Their reputation was already on the shitter, the issue is that the cock suckers in Japan don't know exactly what the fuck was going down in the EN side the entire time. And because doki is Chinese that gives them even more reason to take everything jp pr is telling them at face value. The people who are still supporting niji after all of this are angry fujos mad that vox was outted as a piece of shit and stupid ass racist Japan people who are acting based on their racism alone.

>>69252893
Yes I do. Selen lied about recording Vox. Didn't even bring it up until she was called on it. Then she lied and said it was because of some collab shit.

>>69252236
>>69252520
Nijisisters aren't sending their best...

>>69252615
The evidence is
>Trust me bro the livers are really kind and sweet except selen who is a big meanie meanie face and someone drew elira getting blacked and it hurt my feefees so i wrote this retardation on a dox site and spread it around twitter with bots to get back at the stupid poopypants dookie amber bird

You are all unserious people

>>69252454
>The entirety of Nijisanji EN as a branch, from the talents all the way to the managers, is now damaging Nijisanji's reputation
What happens now?

>>69252956
Niji's words are unsubstaintiated claims, sister.
>YSTAN

>DokiDrones
>DramaBird
Stop embarrassing yourself sister, and next time use a Vox pic if you want to choke on his cock that much

>>69252956
Doki has been elaborated that she wants Niji to be legally responsible WITH THE DOCS she sent (and they even failed at that)

>>69253034
Maybe because you're a retard who didn't read the whole thing so strawman it into saying the whole thing was about BPD.

>>69253028
>Selen lied about recording Vox.
When did she lie about it?
>Didn't even bring it up until she was called on it.
Where?
>. Then she lied and said it was because of some collab shit.
Where is your proof it was a lie?

>>69252609
Wtf are you talking about, that,'s the paper work needed to lay the groundwork for future lawsuit. Whether she actually pursues it or not is a separate matter. It would go along with wrongful termination if she wanted.

>>69247520
Rumao, lollo lollo

The Niji-desperation is palpable.

>>69251350
Fake and gay, Selen never said she was gonna sue anybody

>>69252956
Niji also said Selen didn't pay her artists, and the artists went on twitter to call them out on their outright lie. Niji just lied a bunch, Doki herself has never said anything about suing. The lawyers and legal stuff were only used in defense.

Double retard

>>69253103
it literally said that selen is a betrayer because she decided to abandon her friends when she's being suicidal

>>69252857
Since AnyColor has received a copy of the legal document from Doki's lawyers and individuals like Vox have been able to review the document, this would require the document to have been transferred via email/discord. So either AnyColor or one of its sycophants can release the document to prove that Doki is liar right? If you make the first public accusation, you'd better be ready to prove it.

>>69253075
The only people who can choke on Vox's dick are children, which happens to be Vox's type.

>>69253050
The evidence is
>Trust me bro Selen said she tried killing herself and was bullied and Elira is a big meanie meanie face even though Selen didn't even mention her

>>69252921
Possibly trying not to trip NDA more than she did already, but in the lens of the GURRAT, it might explain that one issue she had where she "skipped her personal manager and went to the higher up manager". The personal one was one of her senpai, but got annoyed and went up to the japanese management since she can actually speak it, but he got annoyed cause theres esablished channels though the clique, thus the suspension

>>69253003
internet culture runs downstream from 4chins, always has, always will.
/vt/ has been naming the black company for years before, now the dam has burst and they need to stop the flood. It won't work, but it's the only play they have.

>>69252708
Doki never said she was going to sue, Not once, not ever, it wasn't back peddling, she literally never said it, find me the part where she said she was gonna sue, Find it, seriously fucking find it

>>69252454
Nothing Selen could have possibly said would have damaged Niji's reputation as much as that three page rant did.

They should have acted like a sane corporation usually does, put up a termination notice citing "creative differences" or what not and wished "her luck in her future endeavors". You do NOT slander your employees out of the industry as you kick them out the door. (Especially when you know they had a suicide attempt you tried to cover up.)

Not that they needed to terminate their #1 most popular talent by views. They could have simply taken the resignation, like any sane company does when faced with that choice. None of us would have ever found out about the suicide, and this all would have been avoided.

But no, they are so spiteful and malicious as to be self destructive. They are a danger to themselves, their parent company, and everyone involved with them.

>>69247520
>Selen Tatsuki/Dokibird and Nijisanji EN – a different truth
>different truth

>>69253154
So was it legal papers or wasn't it?

The most consistently surprising trait you quickly notice in all of the NDF posting is how divorced from reality they are. They have no idea what the inside of an office even looks like, much less a remote job. No idea what real managerial expectations look like, no clue about HR or PR, guessing their way through any kind of legality convo
They just built their entire stance on vibes and feels, it "feels" so ungrateful that she'd hurt her "Nijifamily" and Milord like this

>>69253075
its so hilarious to see sisters try to emulate locals lol

>>69253180
Selen never mentioned anyone publicly. That was literally Elira's fault lmao.

>>69252921
Sayu said she had shit that she kept to herself as to not start drama
She also spoke about getting backstabbed by so many there but not mentioning weather it was livers or management (Probably because they were the same thing)

>>69253122
it's just like how your phone call to nijisanji can be used as groundwork for future lawsuit, it doesn't mean that it's always intended to be used for future lawsuit

>>69253261
Incredible self-ownage

>>69253225
Who knows, that's between AnyColor, Doki, their lawyers, and whoever AnyColor has provided documents/papers to. They all have a copy, so if they want to prove that Doki is a liar, they can do just that.

>>69251123
Women bad

>>69247520
The fact that y'all are so overexcited and on the way to a full-blown panic attack over facts and a document made by half-insane schizophrenic anons who happened to make sense by pure miracle is very telling

You're all full of shit

>>69247895
thank you

>>69253237
they're so chronically online that think that socmed opinion is the end all and that by being passive aggressive enough you can chatgpt gaslight your way out of anything
because that works in their "<something>twt" circles

>>69253054
Same thing that happened to Niji ID, KR, and IN.

>>69253061
And Doki's aren't. Retard spotted >>69253088
No she didn't. You're shifting the goalposts because you know you're wrong.
>>69253116
My proof its a lie is that she hid the fact she recorded it in the first place.
>>69253137
Almost like there's evidence of Selen doing things before getting approval or something.

doki is a chronic rule breaker.
this puts a huge target on her back for the bullying clique.
niji did nothing to stop it.

>>69253216
It's more like "a different reality" to be honest.
>>69253225
You realize that the law has many more forms than "im gunna sue u", right? I hope you realize that.

>>69253261
That self-own was legendary lmao

>>69253195
>internet culture runs downstream from 4chins
4chan punches above its weight but you are so wrong I don't know where to even begin. Let's start with the fact telecoms and large tech corpos are in control of web traffic and they're all coopted by gov't.

god I fucking love elira's fat tits

>>69252921
Sayu made more than a few comments about management, in particular she has a total newbie who had to seek consul from another manager all the time, that could've easily been the SHADOWLORD, ELIRA

>>69253028
I'm sure you can provide proof of this right? Should not be hard at all.

>>69253337
Retard

Gonna be interesting to see if someone spills some spaghetti over VC in Kyos graduation stream later while crying over accumulated stress + the graduation

>>69253189
she clearly did not want to part with niji amicably, seeing how she broke the NDA revealing 2% and so on. if this shadow management nonsense was a thing then it'd be 100% called out by sayu. i may be nitpicking on this document but holy shit this isn't credible at all, how are people using this as a gospel?

>>69253028
No, Vox lied when he said that he didn't rape Rosemi and force her to sell the child to black market organ harvesters in China. Petra, Reimu and Calliope Mori all came out and made a joint statement, even showing a full 4 hours of Vox fucking Rosemi in the ass while calling her a useless breeding whore.

See, I can make shit up with no evidence too. By your logic it is now Vox's burden of proof to prove that this didn't happen.

>>69253337
>My proof its a lie is that she hid the fact she recorded it in the first place.

So your proof of something being a lie is that...it is a lie? Meds now.

When did she hide it? What's your proof she hid it?

>>69252609
NTA, but it's pretty clear that her lawyer decided to take her case. Otherwise, there would be no need to exchange documents with Anycolor's legal after negotiations fell through.

>>69253340
Then terminate her earlier. If rules violations is a good enough reason to terminate her, why bother with 3-pages and 8 months? Or due to favortism in the company, "rules violations" now fail as a valid reason for termination?

>>69253337
>No she didn't. You're shifting the goalposts because you know you're wrong.
the tweet still up, sisters

>>69252847
Doki is an indie so the stakes are lower for her now. As long as she doesn't initiate a frivolous lawsuit she will just coast around until she's forgotten as a low 4view/high 3view (anykara will almost surely not sue get first, surely not even THEY are that dumb). Even if she's a crazy idiot it won't matter much because she'll be in an environment with little friction.

>>69253376
Hate her as a person and I'll never watch her streams but I will cum to her model.

>>69253034

>>69252520 (Me)
Was meant to refute the Nijisisters. I was hoping people would get the visual idiom but I guess not.

>>69253410
the negotiation only fell through after the document has been exchanged

>>69252708
>covers up a suicide
>slanders the person they drove to suicide
>points at the other livers in that same notice
>puts a target on Elira's head trying to slander a suicide victim further
>Hurr, why is our reputation in the shitter!?

The company is a danger to its talents, to itself, and to the parent company. Stop defending it, FFS.

>>69253337
You don't know what "proof" means. A court case would not be kind to you.

>>69253194
Look at the statement again you fucking tard.
>Selen stated Niji should be held legally responsible
You don't get to pick and choose which person's claims or true or false faggot.
>>69253216
No argument here
>>69253237
Same goes for you Dookitard
>>69253261
Exactly, but people assumed Elira had something to do with it. Retarded logic.
>>69253311
This isn't self ownage. It's retards making assumptions.

>>69253409
Sayu was already being shat on twitter and slandered as a pedo and rapist. Nothing she said would ever hold water and would just ruin any form of carrer she wanted to salvage. If anythings gonna happen it has to come though dokis case

>>69253517
She has already asked to graduate a week prior at that point.

>>69247520
Don't bother. The whole Niji v Doki/Selen "debate" is purely based on emotional thinking.
Any pragmatism is met with vitriol.

>>69247723
>>69247520
it definitely was someone underage who wrote this

>>69253571
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>69253571
>Exactly, but people assumed Elira had something to do with it
So this is Doki's problem because...? She's not liable for people noticing things independently.

>>69247520
Why is the 'vs other livers' experiences with management' part So biased? At least one clip from Pomu or even Nina should be in it.

>>69253345
>record voice calls
>get lawyer
>send writeup about pattern of harassment
>but totally not prepping for a lawsuit
Are you retarded? The first two I can let pass as just good liability protection, but the 3rd is a red flag.

>>69247520
Didn't read it but
I agree

It's being posted on Twitter by the exact people you would expect.

>>69247520
Get a discord server

>>69248169
>don't tell him ruskis watch doki too

>>69253613
Doxxsite fujos are all underage

>>69253606
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>69253663
YAAAAAAAAS QUEEEN

>>69253571
You can thank AnyColor for all this. The fact that you're here is because of AnyColor. Congratulations, you've reached peak parasocial.

>>69253588
yes, and niji doesn't answer shit for weeks so she tried to send that docs as one of the reason she wants to grad

which leads to the termination

>>69253672
>please read it before you attack anyone
lmao

So not 'Please do not attack anyone at all", it's "Attack the correct person"

Guys, stop engaging with the obvious menhera roastie with dried up meatflaps for a cunt. This whore will never shut up if you give her attention and replies.

>>69251707
So an employee standing up against a company that won't let them go is bad now? You are either absolutely retarded or have never worked an actual job a day in your life. Probably both. You deserve to be enslaved by corporate bullshit.

I find it interesting that Anycolor didn’t say that Selen was spreading falsehoods and omissions, that was Vox. Suddenly the NDF are all saying Selen is a liar when that was never cited in her termination notice.

>>69253351
people calling it self own are not looking at the bigger picture. it was all ordered by anycolor just to make doki life as miserable as possible and to make her an example of what they will do to others if they try to revolt like she did. its literally mafia style intimidation tactic.

>This event was directly referenced to by Selen’s lawyers as an example of harassment
wait what the fuck
this is new info

is the one that makes this actual organs?

>>69252847
Nobody trusts nijiEN anymore. There are loads of randoms and normies who are vouching for her and calling BS on any and all leaked "evidence". The only thing they could slap out now would be her shit talking those random and normies. Maybe openly grooming a minor or other criminal offense like admitting to charity fraud or skimming project budgets. They made her bulletproof by engaging in harassment for the sake of "pwning" her. Zaion made an ass of herself and acted like an ass to everyone who didn't belive her. If anything, Zaions termination made them get cocky and try again to send a message that backfired hard.

>>69252816
this alone literally, l i t e r a l l y, completely fucks their entire counter narrative.
Doki didn't say shit about her attempt, didn't say shit about the bullying, didn't say shit about legal action, didn't say shit about artists not getting paid, didn't say shit about management, ALL OF IT HAS COME FROM NIJI.
Literally all they had to do was say "she's terminated for breaking company policy" and if she DID go ahead and put out any counter document niji can then sue her ass AND look like they're in the right coz she's having a menhera attack.
lholy fuck sisters, hop off the retard juice.

You know, there's a lot of emphasis on Nijisanji's claim that Doki was going to hold them legally responsible and go public with the accusations if their negotiations fell through. Which is supposedly why they decided to do preemptive damage control and revealed some details themselves. But there's a pretty good reason to believe that's bullshit. Why?
Because she didn't. What the fuck was stopping her exactly? The negotiations clearly didn't fucking go her way, did they? On her first stream after termination everyone was at the edge of their seats waiting for her to drop an absolute nuclear bomb, but all we got was her expressing the desire to move on and leave this whole situation behind. It was, by all accounts, Nijisanji who kept pushing, and Doki simply kept responding to that. The only reason any legal action was brought back up by her was because of the potential NDA breach, and that seems to have been cleared up between the lawyers. She then once again said he just wanted to move on. Yet some people now act like by not doing what Nijisanji said she would do... Doki has "backpedalled" and admitted her own guilt?

>>69252836
Oh so selen and her lawyer never said it, Niji just claimed they did, and we believe niji at their word cause we're all inbred NDF simps... yep.. totally, I ASKED YOU, WHERE, DOKI, OR HER LAWYER, EVER, PUBLICLY, STATED THEY WERE PLANNING TO SUE, YOU WORTHLESS INBRED

>>69251924
Still waiting sisters.

notice how many of the replies defending Nijisanji attack anons by using stereotypical "nerd" insults such as calling them incels, telling them to leave their mother's basement and things attacking their ability to interact with women? this is because sisters believe that their vagina is the one thing that validates a man's worth, they really think that attacking a man's sexuality is the ultimate slam dunk against them. Your pussy isn't as important as you think it is, you are only outing yourself as a womanchild by living with the mindset of a 16 year old white girl

>>69253771
It's a self-own because it wasn't effective, you retard. Context seems beyond you.

>>69253180
Selen never mentioned anybody publicly herself. People on this site already had an idea that it was enna elira and millie involved because it was all people shitposting, then elira had to open her big fucking mouth and prove that all rrats here about them were true. You have nobody to blame but Elira because if she had no done that stupid stream people would not know who these harassers were and everything posted here would've just been labeled as nothing but schizoposting. You must be a retarded woman to be able to even think like this while ignoring the rest of the obvious redflags. Listen vox isn't going to fuck you. You are most likely too old for him.

>>69252857
So again we take their word against hers, when every single time she herself has spoken about this, She said she just wanted to be let go

>>69253411
The proof she hid it is because she didn't mention it until Vox called her out. Durr. >>69253412
Shut up faggot. You literally don't apply this logic to anything Doki says so stop acting like you care about burden of proof all of a sudden.
>>69253470
Yes, the tweet of the statment that says Selen was holding Niji legally responsible for her treatment. Not the document. Retard.
>>69253531
>Covers up suicide
>Doki crying about that info remaining private
>they drove to suicide
No evidence of this claim
>Elira slandered a suicide victim
After the suicide victim wrote about her and posted her address in documents (allegedly) and suicide victims aren't immune to criticism. Faggot.

>>69253891
kek, fucking woman logic

>>69253891
>Yes, the tweet of the statment that says Selen was holding Niji legally responsible for her treatment. Not the document. Retard.
sasuga NDF
you made the exact mistake nijisanji do
read the tweet properly

>>69253710
No, I'm here because you faggots believe everything you see and hear without any proof.

>>69253784
It’s literally a lie. Vox speculated that was what Selen perceived as harassment but anyone saying “confirmed by Selen’s lawyer” is literally lying

>>69253410
hiring a lawyer doesn't automatically mean that someone is getting sued. people consult lawyers all the time to help people understand legally binding documents such as contracts, ownership records, inheritance, etc.

people also consult lawyers to determine what action they can take as a result of something that happened. i believe this is what happened - after the video was privated and everything went to shit, Doki consulted with a lawyer to see what options might be available to her, and how to communicate with the company while not doing anything that would cause damage to herself legally, especially because the contract with AC existed.

>>69247520
Until you retards stop pretending Selen claimed she was bullied by livers you can throw this entire thing in the trash because IT WAS NIJIEN WHO SELF REPORTED

And this entire pile of crap is built upon the lie that she claimed other livers bullied her.

>>69253891
>suicide victims aren't immune to criticism
critics also isn't immune to critics faggot

>>69253973
That's fucking rich, sister

>>69253891
Is this actual psychosis?

>>69253849
it actually is very effective. it wasnt meant to be successful in swaying public opinion or anything like that, it was meant to tell current livers to stay in line.

>>69253791
i remember the last time nijisanji terminated a liver while giving this reason, didn't go so well with the fans, now they need to be as transparent as possible because that's what the fans wanted right? the fans got it now but they'll still shit on niji

I think what rustles my jimmies most is the "i- it's an unbiased take!" framing
Like yes I get it, that's part of the propaganda, but it's just such a blatant fucking lie. The whole thing reeks of passive-aggressive fury against doki.
Like fuck dude, if all they said was "this is a different interpretation, believe what you will" I'd probably not dismiss it out of hand, but whenever I see "UNBIASED AND FAIR TAKE,IT CHANGED MY MIND, READ THIS NOW AND DON'T BELIEVE LIES" and then it takes like all of one paragraph to personally attack doki I'm like "bullshit it's unbiased"
Protip sisters, spread this in your cords: get your bots to stop calling it unbiased, because it very clearly isn't

>>69253784
Can't wait to see how Dookitards will try and spin this. My guess is the classic
>Vox lie Doki true

>>69247520
Not reading all that. We are in 2k24, please do better.
>can can can may may could could may
Great start of conclusion.
The fuck is even purpose of 2nd part?
>but has refused to take a single statement made by NIJISANJI EN
Yea, you lost me there.
>are being held hostage
Uh oh, someone doesn't know how real live works.
>everyone involved in the situation has requested an end to the harassment
Not 1 but 2 fucking documents adding fuel to already slowly dying fire.
>no TLDR for 2nd
Don't care.

Do we really need a message from /b/ on every board?
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Who takes rrats seriously?

>>69254038
Worse, it's dokichosis.

>>69253571
again.. where did SHE HERSELF say it you brainless fucking mongoloid, Fucking off yourself

>>69254043
Ahhhhhh I see, sasuga 6D chess player ninjasanji
Yes, yes, very clever

>>69252708
>Work for company
>No longer happy in company, want to quit
>They won't let you quit
>Call lawyer to help you quit
>They fire you and slander you to save face
>"hurr durr she deserved it, compnay is always right"
You subhuman morons don't deserve worker's rights.

>>69254084
my rebuttal is this
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THINGS THAT SELEN'S LAWYER DIRECTLY REFERENCES TO

>>69253891
>The proof she hid it is because she didn't mention it until Vox called her out.
Under what obligation did she have to reveal it? Words having meaning you fucking retard. Hiding something means you have the intention to conceal it from others.

When and where did Doki show the intention to conceal the recording? Simply not making its existence known is not intention. She would have to be asked about it and then deny it for it to be hiding.

Are you hiding what you had for breakfast this morning simply because you haven't told me yet? Under your logic, yes you are.

>You literally don't apply this logic to anything Doki says so stop acting like you care about burden of proof all of a sudden.
Like what? I'm willing to engage with your dumb ass but you keep skirting around actually answering anything.

>>69253571
Now you're huffing that copium sister. Jesus christ.

>>69250173
Their actions say otherwise.

>>69253863
>Assuming gender
>Assuming I'm a Vox fan
Smart people don't make assumptions. Makes sense why you would assume Elira was bullying her based on nothing. Because you're a retard.

>>69253784
Please god I hope Vox or one of his dickslurpers added this personally

>>69254189
15 minutes black video

>>69253973
Which is funny, because there isn't a single part of the sister rentry which is actually substantiated with proof. It's all "What if this was actually what happened and that was a lie?" or "Something just FEELS WRONG about this" or "Can you really believe what she says under threat of legal consequences? She has BPD so she's obviously completely irrational nevermind the fact that she's managed to handle every part of this better and more professionally than Nijisanji has" or "She's already losing, TWO MORE WEEKS!".

>>69253784
source is that they made it the fuck up

>>69253891
I don't know why you're still fighting. Nijisanji said in their termination letter that Selen was suing them for the time Millie and Enna broke both her legs, tied her up in the office bathrooms and got all the other talent to take turns shitting on her face. The audio was used in their last off-collab, and Enna even tweeted about Selen eating her "Rosemi special" period blood shit. It lines up with the audio in the video that ended up on liveleak, seems like a pretty open and shut case to me.

>>69254051
So why wasn't "breaking company policy" a good enough reason? Does AnyColor have a history of not suspending/terminating people for "breaking company policy"? Is there favortism involved?

>>69254051
Compare the backlash to Yugo's "graduation" to what's happening now. People are going to complain either way, but going with the former method is the least bad. It's not even close

>>69254246
>>69254246
15 minutes black dick

>>69253075
>make a bunch of dumb names based on delusional conspiracy theories to deflect discussion
>call out a bunch of dumb names based on facts to frustrate discussion deflection
I really hope you understand your own role in encouraging people to use these names.

>>69254160
The recording was also test footage from event prep where VOX knowingly took part in the event prep. She simply still had a copy of the test stream. WHICH IS FUCKING NORMAL FOR A STREAMER.

Hes fucking retarded and a liar.

>>69253729
They were in communication with her lawyer before they received the document. Negotiations already fell through before she even sent it. And then Anycolor wrongfully terminated her without notice or pay. To make matters worse, the livers admitted that Anycolor violated confidentiality by sharing her documents with them. It's a hell of a way to fuck yourself over pretrial.

>>69254084
If it's a direct reference, you should be able to show the source where the reference took place. No?

>>69253973
We have proof that NijiEN was willing to put all their talent's lives in danger by pointing the finger their way while slandering someone who just tried to off themselves. We have proof that they did it all over again on the black stream, ending Elira's career and putting her life in even more danger.

What Selen did doesn't matter. It's that NijiEN has proven itself not only incompetent, but spiteful and malicious to such a degree that they put their talents and the company in danger.

If you care one iota for the talents you'd want NijiEN to shut down.

If you care one iota for AnyColor, you'd want NijiEN shut down.

Otherwise, you don't care for anyone and are just taking the opportunity to bully a suicide victim for the lulz.

>>69254189
Sure vox fan. I'm sure vox in anxious to hear from you about your 13 year old sister.

>>69254084
>trust parties that violated legal confidentiality
>distrust party that maintained legal confidentiality

I find that impressive that NDF are actually genuinely awful people trying to justify a bullying victim with the fact that she might have a BDP

This is not only ableist and psychopathic but also extremely fucking dangerous for anyone who might be neuropathic

All of that to defend a company with a shit reputation who already pulled that kind of stunt several times (Luna, anyone ?)

These fucks are seriously scary

>>69253973
No, you're here because you're parasocial. If you weren't, you'd be able to timeline the accusations correctly.

>>69254364
They truly are fans of Nijisanji

>>69253944
>Assuming gender
Only retards assume things
>>69253959
>Assuming I'm NDF
Retard. Show me the part of the tweet where it specially mentions the document. You dumb faggot.
>>69254021
Good one faggot.
>>69254038
No, I don't have BPD like your queen Doki
>>69254115
>Hurr I believe whatever doki says but everything niji says is lies
Cope harder faggot

>>69254313
She simply mentioned that she had the recording where VOX talks about his preferential treatment cause she still had it on her HDD likely in a folder that was for the EVENT PREP. And just never got around to deleting it.

>>69254316
>They were in communication with her lawyer before they received the document.
in communication means that negotiation still ongoing, no?

>>69254084
please do show the moment or document where the lawyer claims this is harassment

>>69254084
Vox is paranoid sex pest with anger issues you need to be brain dead to believe him

>>69254418
You're a woman because you behave like one. Spread your legs slut.

>>69254364
They're a cult, a really wealthy one(living off daddies or hubbies wallet)

>>69254255
For some reason I couldn't put my finger on what felt so off about it but this is it
>The reddit rhetoric, i.e.
>>"[X]... Does that make sense?"
>>"The next thing to look at is when she did [Y], and it just seems weird"
Like this isn't evidence, this is literally just someone opining on what is known of events with an obvious bias towards one interpretation thereof

>>69254364
It's just pure teenage tribalism. It's like when kids would get into fights about which console is better, Xbox or Playstation? It was never about which was the superior platform, it was because your dad bought you that one and you don't want to feel bad about it. Nijisisters have their identity wrapped up in the Nijisanji ecosystem. It's a direct attack on their ego for the company they so dearly love and have a lot of good memories with their talents, to be shown to be pieces of shit. It's a really bitter pill to swallow.

I don't feel sympathy for them, but I do pity them.

>>69254418
>Show me the part of the tweet where it specially mentions the document

>>69254516
Probably from the misandrist "feminist" circles
None of them can read a study and just parrot hearsay

>>69254364
Neuroatypical* I should re-read myself

Anyway NDF you're all scum and should be ashamed of yourselves, if you want to protect your oshis or whatever wait until they come back and stop trying to drag a victim's name in the mud, especially if you're ableist at the first occasion

>>69254016
An exchange of protected documents would have to go through the court with a protective order. The issue is that Niji violated the protective order when they shared the protected document. Again, this is all pretrial, so whether they actually go to trial isn't relevant here.

>>69254418
Why are you ignoring my post?
>>69254160
Is it because it actually asks you to provide proof that you don't have?

>>69254364
You're not fooling anyone. Nobody here gives a shit about sjw faggotry like ableism. So you're either a normalfag tourist, in which case, fuck off, or a falseflagging nijisister, you should also fuck off but also kill yourself.

>>69254344
>Muh suicide
I honestly could give two fucks
>>69254351
>Gets proven wrong
>Doubles down
What a tard.
>>69254355
>Believes parties violated legal confidentiality because Doki said so
>>69254395
No, pretty sure I'm here because of the reasons I said or else I wouldn't have said what I did.

>>69254549
It is hilarious watching them lash out because the world they have constructed around themselves is starting to crumble.
They are upset, and that's good, because they have done it to themselves.

this thread is retarded

>>69254692
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>69254692
It's okay, we recognize that you're parasocial to a fault. Make sure you manage your finances and do not overspend.

>>69254729
It was made by the nijisisters from the doxxsite, of course it's retarded.

>>69254698
It's just part of growing up and realising this shit, does not matter.

If NijiEN crumbles, all the talents that are worth a damn will reincarnate. Vox will still be Vox. Ike will be Ike. Shu will be Shu. They may look different but they will be fine. But they have in it their heads that if NijiEN crumbles, so do all their talents.

>>69254423
Not really. They mentioned that she didn't agree to publicly apologizing for her tweet, which was likely a condition for her to get a graduation. At that point, they should've notified her lawyer of her termination and given her the mandatory notice. Instead, they pulled a pro gamer move.

>>69254418
Post tits if your nipples still inverted there's a possible chance that vox might fuck you.

>>69254634
Come on anon, it's either calling them slurs or scolding them like an adult would scold pieces of shit teenagers, I know that shit was efficient before and it might be efficient here

Am I wrong though ? They're all pieces of shit

>>69254810
>Vox will still be Vox.
A fate worse than death.

>>69254774
>wonder why men won't take them seriously
>does shit like this

>>69254516
>She had a lawyer. Strange, isn't it?
no, not really. sounds like a good idea.
>It smells fishy. I refuse to take sides.
uhh ok
>But I will say that she has BPD, possibly schizophrenia, she's obviously mentally unstable, she's clearly trying to extort money from the company with blackmail, she's lying about her suicide attempts, Vox and Elira don't deserve the malicious harassment that she has been directing from behind the scenes, and she WILL be held responsible for ALL of it, mark my FUCKING WORDS.
>But that's just my unbiased read on the situation, as a level-headed third party observer who believes both sides may be responsible for wrongdoing.

>>69254692
It doesn't matter if Selen actually honestly attempted suicide or not, the fact remains that NijiEN put their talent's lives on the line and fucked over its own reputation knowing a significant portion of the public would believe the suicide was real, and they did it TWICE. That level of incompetence is a danger to everyone involved, including Nijisanji.

>>69253891
Yikes, sister. This is pretty problematic language! Was this full text really approved by Sylvie for a gift card?

>>69254840
Only if she's underage. If not, then Vox will vomit.