/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69242012
Doesn't matter at this point.
The truth is out there, new talent will know what they are getting into. And Doki is free.

>>69242012
unfortunately yeah, Ike already went back to streaming and it was like nothing ever happened. And he was in the fucking hit piece video.

Just watch, Elira will just start streaming again and after the first one or two streams it'll all be business as usual. Lower numbers than before, maybe, but people will forget and then newfags will show up clueless and boost her numbers again.

>>69242012
They'll never be what they once were. Pandora's box is open and there is no closing it nigga.

anons i won't lie, with the amount of big streamers getting behind niji to say nice things about them i fear doki might have lied or something i want all of them to burn for this but idk anymore

>>69242012
If they were smart, sure, but they've proven the contrary quite a few times already.

>>69242012
Too little too late. But I hope they actually do shut the fuck up. It'll be disappointing for me, but its for their own good.

>>69242212
Looks like the nijisisters are talking out of their asses again.

>>69242212
>with the amount of big streamers getting behind niji to say nice things about them
Such as ?

>>69242012
That's what they should have done before Elira's stupid video.

>>69242212
>big streamers getting behind niji
meanwhile in bizarro world

>>69242312
unnamed, daph, kyo

>>69242312
39daph
kek

>>69242352
literally who?

>>69242137
This. It mattered that the general vtuber community got to see them with the mask off. Hopefully less people are fooled in the future.

The onry takeaway from this debauchery will be the jp side going "westerners are annoying" the same way Hololive sees China and leave

>>69242212
who, besides daph, who also lied in her weird rant?

>>69242312
>>69242317
The whore 39daph

>>69242352
All retarded, try again

eh, maybe, but you also have to consider that NijiElira numbers were already stagnating, and now they're actively declining
this matters to investors, especially since Riku sold them on the idea that overseas expansion will bring in lots of money
the threat isn't from public opinion directly, it's from public opinion affecting the money backing everything

>>69242352
nigga unnamed is literally streaming with doki today are you this much of a retarded nigga?

>>69242352
i thought unnamed came out in support of Doki, though?

>>69242391
unnamed has gone on record saying to stand beside your oshis (they responded to vox and ike stan accounts so)
and kyo is supposed to come out with something soon

>>69242012
No, sister, we are so close to winning!!! All we need is for Enna, Reimu and Finana to read the Dokument and everyone will FINALLY see how evil that bitch Doki is!!

>>69242012
The Elira Embezzlement Yab will change that. Follow. The. Money.

>>69242012
You wish.
They've proven they're idiots that can't even manage their own lives.
If Takuno really wanted to fix things he'd dissolve EN immediately and start over next year. But he's an spoiled child who was born rich and only knows how to deceive shareholders and underpay his employees.
Kurosanji might be profitable but it will never be sustainable.

>>69242012
Nigga Eliras channel is dead, that video is her most viewed thing on her channel all time and shes going to lose an entire year worth of subs and hundreds of memberships
Its a raped corpse

>>69242352
Try again.

>>69242480
yeah they're collabing tonight, sisters are, just as they say, waffling

>>69242212
Big streamers? You one which is fucking 39daph

>>69242012
Unironically true.
Shitty company, shitty "management",shitty talents and shitty fans. What a perfect match. No wonder so many want out lmao

>>69242484
>unnamed has gone on record saying to stand beside your oshis
that's why they're standing beside their oshi, on a collab, tonight

>>69242012
Hard doubt on that one, one thing I've observed from the greater net sphere these past 2 or 3 years is that people do not let shit go even if it's been long enough.

Shitty mentality, but they're stuck with it now that big guys like Asmongold, Muda, and other various YTers are covering it (even if it *is* from a tourist's perspective)

>>69242012
it was never about the numbers, batman

>>69242422
the only possible thing that they can do right now is leak the whole "doki diary" which, even it's all retarded ramblings from a BPD chick, will not only make them extremely bad because it was never supposed to be something public, it will also further expose them as a retarded vindictive company that has 0 morals and just want to push an ex talent over the edge

>>69242137
>>69242376
NijiEN will become a containment site for shitty vtubers and grifters, but their existence will continue making the vtubing scene shittier.

>>69242012
>>69242137
They are fucked in the long term. Their growth was already stagnating, with high performing organs leaving and new debuts lucky to be 3views. Now their applicant pool is even more fucked, combined with the the PR disaster this has been, they'll be lucky if NijiElira can stay at third place among English corpos.

>>69242012
Viewers will maybe forget but people applying will not. The cancellations of Selen, Zaion and Riro Ron and the unneeded attempt to smear there reputation will make it less likely for feature talent to choses these agencies. There is a reason CEOs always "quit" because they want to "focusing on family".

>daph
>literally who
>pronouns in bio

Absolutely not. After this shitstorm, why would you ever sign on with Nijisanji instead of just going indie? What exactly is this company offering it's talents? Sponsors have backed out, the optics and reputation of Nijisanji is terrible right now, their existing talents were already stagnating in growth, and now no one will sign on for any new generations with this company.

Nijisanji needs a fall guy to salvage their reputation, otherwise they're pretty much trapped with NijiJP and NijiEN will slowly die out even if things do return "back to normal," simply because the talents will realize one by one how fucked the company is and how pointless it is to stay. This is all a make-or-break point for Nijisanji if they have any interest in anything beyond their status quo JP branch, and the reputations of any talent considered part of the clique are likely irreparably damaged unless Niji has something very thorough clearing them of any wrongdoing. If the clique is in fact guilty of wrongdoing, they're probably already in the process of being fired.

>>69242680
there will still be retarded niggas applying to it tho, especially as a way to kickstart their career and try to get some of their dedicated niji audience into their next venture as an indie

>>69242212
if you want to bring normieshit in this, who would win? asmondgold+moiscritikal+mutahar or 1 retarded racist twitch cunt nobody cares about?

btw Vox is having fun on Fulgur's channel rn

>>69242744
>The next wave debuts and it's actually just people with brain damage

>>69242012
They pay their managers barely a wage and hire college students to be the management staff
Kids doing adult work for kids
Its no surprise why someone would tell them to fuck off and curtail them, they were probably doing their college HW or partying

>>69242161
>but people will forget
It'll be awkward when the milestone stream approaches again.

>>69242802
implying the last 4 waves aren't already people with brain damage

>>69242012
>it's over, let the last cinders fade
at some point, someone inside will snap
it not about who or why, but when, someone will snap and malicious leak everything to cause actual irreparable damage

>>69242179
They didn't open the box. They smashed it.

>>69242744
yes they will get retards or people with no better choice, it lessens there choice for little to no upside.

>>69242484
Kyo hasn't graduated so he leaked info while still in the company and daph opened her mouth about it.

>>69242012
They would do that if they were smart.
Problem is they already showed multiple times they aren't.

>>69242212
Imagine concern trolling this fucking transparently /here/ of all places

>>69242352
Those are a concerning amount of """big""" creators to sisters? LMAO sisters are trying so so hard, you poor things.
Reminder that Charlie, Asmongold, Kwite, Mutahar and other actual big creators (even if they're retarded) have been covering this story and clearly shitting on Nijisanji. Now even the normies know lol

>>69242161
>Lower numbers than before,
wrong the return will have way more than before, dramaviews waiting for something juicy THEN more streams later it will fade below her average pre-drama

>>69242012
The core audience for the brand plateaued a long time ago. And its clear they actively hinder talent from growing. And the lost the casuals by being outed as a black company.

No one new will want to join, Anyone who does join is prob part of a clique and not a good person.

Third party brands needed for the extra revenue see the company as a bit radioactive now and will not want to do partnerships for merch and collabs. ETC.

They can act like its fine, but it will never be fine unless they actually address the problems and mismanagment

>>69242212
>the amount of big streamers getting behind niji
The only reason daph did that was to gain the attention of big white snow cock asmongold to pay any attention to silly asian girl daph who is tsundere for thick white cock.

>Doki and Niji(JP) already settled things out of public view, hence the silence from both
>dramafags from both sides, the NDF, some misguided Doki fans who didn't even listen to her last tweet regarding the situation, still thinks the "war" is still ongoing
My final rrat

Lol until they pull another big brain retard move and dump some more gasoline on the fire

>>69242552
>Takuno
who

>>69242921
God, I'd hate smash Pendora's box

>>69243052
What about Niji(EN)?

>>69242680
>Grouping Riro in with the others
Incredibly retarded and fact-resistant.

>>69243165
negligible

>>69243035
Doesn't Asmongold already have an asian wife that is actually good looking and not a roastie.

>>69243035 >>69242952 >>69242391 >>69242392
if you write a bunch of emails to https://www.sentinels.gg/contact she will 100% get fired over this infraction, can't justify keeping someone on after they called out someone attempting suicide

>>69243165
they are gonna be under a tight leash now, that's my educated guess.

>>69243165
Forgot to mention them on my second green arrow lmao
NijiEN's like YoRHa from Nier Automata still fighting even though the humans already went extinct

>>69243201
She knows he has that yellow fever and is tempting him

>>69243204
Nice, thanks anon

>>69243204
>Xir fucking face
That's a manface, baby!

>>69242012
I'm just going to point this out because I'm sure people are super aware of this, but they fact it got out they didn't pay so many artists means they're really fucking done on that front.
People might not be aware, but the artist community are really like a giant group of people in contact with each other. A large and I mean large amount of artists straight up will shun and not ever work with them anymore after this and that's kinda big hit no matter what and will never go away.

Niji logo is rainbow because they are gay loll

>>69243201
They broke up.

But yeah he was dating a 9

>>69242212
Anti-white racists are the new Niji niche. NijiArabic when?

>>69243186
everyone knew why she got fired there was no need to say it, it was stupid and only made the company look worse to future talent. Yes drama fags loved it but many people that work in the space did not.

>>69243332
they will hire SEA fags for cheap and will continue getting art

>>69242012
Let's be honest, this is the best move and us anons arguing with Nijicucks is nothing but an actual waste of time.

If they're indeed doing heavy restructurations, things will calm down and they're going to avoid shitting on the ground and throwing it on their own employees all over again.

This is over bros, if they fuck up a third time that means they're really retarded and have no business staying in the industry, but seeing Tazumi's sleepless face, i don't think they will.

>>69243204
Eh, not really? Is her opinion retarded? Yes. But should she be fired for voicing her opinion in some random chat? I don't think so

>>69243345
nijisanji in shambles

>>69243332
isnt that why they sent out job applications for artists? rumao

>>69243409
Even a good amount of SEAfags are in that network group of artists. You could probably only hire most shitty, worst cheap artists ever honestly

>>69242744
I'm sure there's a qualitative difference between the talent who is eager and willing, and the talent who is desperate.

>>69243423
She should be fired for being a retarded whore

>>69243332
Theyll just revert to using AI slop them cover their ears

>>69242012
They've proven so far to be incapable of just shutting the fuck up

>>69242212
I can smell dry period blood from this post

their main audience is japs, chinese, and ESLs.

>>69242012
Elira has lost a year's worth of subs in the past two weeks. I don't think you understand how hard NijiEN was already stagnating before this and how much that amplifies the damage

And that is good. After spending some time in those threads I realize that 80% of people who defend Selen are legit mentally ill and have severe anger issues. You don't want those people anywhere near you cause they only cause trouble when you trigger an anger outburst in them. Unstable fans perfectly represent their unstable idol in this instance. And now that Selen is gone let's hope they will be gone too.

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again
If they're smart they won't.
Problem is, the past month showcased they aren't, which is why people are half expecting them to fuck up again.
JP management tightening the reigns might prevent that though.

>>69243423
I send them a couple of email anyway, lmao

>>69242680
>Riro Ron
Noone bitched about Rio getting terminated, The whole termination letter read like she was living the life of a rock star. Taking drugs, fucking her manager, fucking fans from her harem. Partying hard dat grill. I can respect that.

>>69243419
The bow is now forever immortalized

>>69242012
>and then sisters wake up

>>69243582
>Least subtle nijisister

>>69242012
Honestly I'd take this as a win. As entertaining as a branch burning down would be, Doki getting her peace finally is the more important part.

>>69243582
t. Mentally ill troon who harrassed zaion

>>69242212
>i want all of them to burn for this but idk anymore
The correct stance from the start was to see both side burn.

>>69242179
Pendora's box, you mean

>>69243052
If they settled things, why have the black box video and NijiEN notices not been deleted yet?

>>69242352
>daph
I'm glad aceu didn't marry that retard

>>69243578
and do you think quintupling down and just going full retarded will suddenly make them go full force in terms of growth?

>>69243582
Welcome to 4chan nigga

>>69242677
>high performing organs
I know what my high performing organ is, if you catch my drift

If they're smart they wont try the slander route when terminating a talent and just lay a vague "Breach of contract" because nobody will take their side anymore Aside from the NDF who actively hurt their own team But this Nijisanji and they can still go full retard.

>>69243636
>>69243648
I am not trying to be subtle. You guys are psychos and you should legit get some help. Why do you think the toxic dragon persona appealed to you?

rentry.org/nijidoki
Finally, it's here

>>69243679
No? My point was the damage has already been done. You can't unfuck this and you can't pretend it didn't happen

>>69243721
Nigga are you 14 years old trying this shit
Get a real job and realize human resources works to defend companies from liability

>>69243630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJTpXWEkjfw

>>69242012
Too late to give up now, fools. At this point, Niji must destroy Doki to recover their reputation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugM0g6D-lHw&ab_channel=Nardicality
Kek, he did it again.

>>69243582
Yes, the ndf is pretty crazy

>>69242161
>then newfags will show up clueless and boost her numbers again
There are no more newfags to milk. The industry is just pumping already existing fans around. Niji will see much less of that circulation now, though.

>>69243771
You are just proving my point by frothing at your mouth. Pitiful.

>>69243842
And youre an underage woman

>>69243582
>people who defend Selen
You guys should really type this into the achieves for a good laugh guys. I mean it. I knew I seen this wording other places.

>>69243423
>doki does 2 attempts on her life over niji
>tells her side and wants to move on
>"yeah doki is dumb and is provoking provoking niji"
she may be a retard, but she's a malicious retard who isn't involved even remotely. get her out

>>69242212
asmongold and cr1tikal are anti-niji though

nijisisters are finished

>>69242212
>NO NO SISTERS WHERE ARE MY UPDOO-ACK

>>69243826
Because all of them are fujoshits.

>>69243738
this is literally the elira stream but typed out by chatGPT to look more credible

>>69243894
lol.

>>69243738
How much?

>>69243691
I'm still baffled that they thought it was a good idea to go the slander route on Selen. Yeah it worked with Zaion because she was a new hire, but Selen is well-known and beloved by many.
Even if they were spooked by the doc her lawyer sent them, they could've just go with "Sorry bros, we decided to terminate her because she breached her contract".

>>69243842
Actual reddit shit, get the fuck out before you embarrass please

>>69243826
>no u
>>69243857
>u are a woman
>>69243858
>u are one person
Just look at yourselves how sad and deluded you are.

>>69243689
Your pancreas?

>>69242212
Sister you posted TOO EARLY, you were supposed to wait for the hitpieces to actually come out before you did your concern fagging, No steam gift cards for you today and a 24 hour suspension from the discord

>>69243689
Forehead-chan Jr.???

>>69243953

>>69243953
Get a new trolling method

>>69243953
Embarrassing, Jesus Christ

>>69243345
BIG IF TRUE

>Selen will dox everyone if she releases her documents!
but also
>Selen won't release her documents!
Pick one nijisisters, you can't have it both ways

>>69242709
A former friend of Hasan, and even he's distanced himself after she went on a schizo anti-white rant. I think that says it all.
Oh, and this woman who hates white people so, so much is going out with a white guy.

Keep posting nijisisters, surely iT wiLl wORk tHiS tImE

>>69242012
>things will go back to normal with time
"Normal" is a slow decay from within under dogshit management and high school lunchroom politics.
"Normal" is losing 7 livers in barely over a year while the new ones struggle to hit 100k.

>>69244093
>Oh, and this woman who hates white people so, so much is going out with a white guy.
Isn't that basically all of them?

>>69244047
at this point I think what Niji will do is release the doki diaries to try and smear her even further. Even if it's a stupid BPD diary it will make them look even more vindictive and retarded and public perception will further go on doki's favor even if she is a mentally ill fag

>>69242012
>They had the chance to do that before releasing the termination notice. Just do some basic corporate babble and move on. They didn't.
>They had that chance again and released a bizarre shareholder statement, Dokibird didn't even say anything, but other people who worked with Nijisanji noticed and took action because of how bad this was.
>They had another chance to not do anything, and instead they release a public statement that becomes impossible to ignore and very difficult to forget.
Retarded fans will be retarded fans, even Mikeneko still has a following after everything that happened but the bigger issue is actually the second thing they did where outside businesses don't want to touch Nijisanji anymore. This will affect sponsorships, collaborations and investment down the line.

If Nikisanji has even the least bit of sense they will indeed never speak of this again and just move on like nothing ever happened, but after three separate gaffs I fully expect them to try again unless the people responsible have already been fired.

>>69242012
They're not dying in 5 seconds but this clusterfuck won't pass with 0 consequences. They were on a downward trend and this will accentuate it, plus good luck with auditions now, they'll get the worst trash imaginable. Elira will be tainted forever albeit the others will probably be fineish. And the whole thing may lead to further graduations when numbers dip too low.

>>69244118
Fuck they really are chinks aren't they? I can barely make it through those sentences.

>>69244118
>Selen spreading rumours on 4choldemorte
I thought we were supposed to be the schizos

>>69244093
The only people who want to fuck her mentally ill ass are white guys with yellow fever

>>69244047
didn't Projekt Melody from VShojo win a court case without posting all her shit online? why do NDFfags think doki needs to show her hand publicly to win?

>>69244093
>Oh, and this woman who hates white people so, so much is going out with a white guy.
Daph is just sad she gets used and thrown away by them all the time because she's too mentally ill

>NijiEN couldn't hire "good" talents so they're forces to hire rejects, misfits, and questionables
>All in the name of ACCELERATE
>NijiEN will finally experience double event, maybe event triple
Hoo boy can't wait for the next drama!

>>69244198
But enough about Selen

>>69244234
because ndf fags are twitterbrained kids, so they assume the only court that holds is the twitter callout post court

>>69244234
Cuz they're a bunch of mentally ill, terminally online retards who think that doki has to prove anything at all to them because they think the court of public opinion is the ultimate authority.

>>69244271
>namefag
kys sister

>>69244264
>NijiEN couldn't hire "good" talents so they're forces to hire rejects, misfits, and questionables
Yeah they fucked up when they got Selen. She made them good money but she was just a ticking bomb.

>>69242161
>unfortunately yeah, Ike already went back to streaming and it was like nothing ever happened
his chat is basically the same 20 or so people talking and has been for over an hour lmao

>>69243857
To be fair a lot of them are men who think they're women.

>>69244234
Doxxsite sisters are unironically a bunch of leftover women fujoshit chinks and SEAniggers. To say that they "think" at all is overestimating them.

>69244351
Aww, she's still trying!

Niji will be fine, NijiEN is going to get rode rough into the dirt and if the branch cannot be salvaged and tard wrangled by actual management then it will be axed just like Korea and India before it.

>>69242012
They didn't need to disclose the "harassment claim" on their 3 page termination notice, they did it because they thought they'd gain sympathy from doing it.
>b-but she threatened them
Yes, exactly. She threatened them, so they KNEW she would make a post after it, yeah?
If they knew she would make a post after, them making the post BEFORE her would never gather any kind of respect for them UNLESS they for some reason thought they would, like retards.
They couldn't have made that post expecting her to not make a post after, since, as implied, she would make a post anyway. Their winning condition wasn't doing that dumb move. But they did it anyway.
The question here is: why? Why did they decide to release that termination notice exposing everything if they knew she would expose even more after that? What did they want to gain with that? Why would they expect that saying "she claimed she was harassed" wouldn't cause her to say "that's true, I was"? And why would they think doing that would make people stand on their side, the side with the supposed, real or not, harassers?

So why did they make that claim? It makes no sense.
Hard mode: no "because they're retarded" answers

>>69244332
She doesn't have to prove anything to me. She should prove she was bullied before people start trying to burn and cancel nijiEN. If you try to burn and canel nijiEN before she proves she was bullied then you have some problems you should get help with. Or at the very least you should calm down a bit.

>>69242012
Right, but... knowing the sort of people in the branch they'll slip up again with some new stupid drama.

>>69244459
because whoever made that termination notice was a vindictive and desperate talent and not actually a PR team

>>69242995
Unless they're able to prove themselves entertaining, in which case some dramafags will stay. Which is something I hadn't considered until now.

Is Elira pure evil?

>>69243924

>>69244118
>it's probably selen spreading rumors on 4chan
I've now seen the light that the Nijisisters are correct. Doki is actually a sentient AI capable of making hundreds of posts from multiple IP addresses. We must stop the DokiAI before it enslaves us all and infects us with BPD.

>>69244118
>wattpad
Wow it really is tumblr refugees

>>69244710
Always has been

>>69242012
Moving on was the first thing they've should've done. But they couldn't leave it alone and now the branch is fucked with permanent damage. Nobody in North America is going to, want to work for them especially at that 2% salary. NijiEn is forever tarnished and the only people who'd be willing to work with them at this point are people from sea.

>>69242212
Go back to your doxxsite sister

>>69242012
They've forever lost their position as the number two unless they do actually make changes for the better AND somehow attract an absolute blue chip talent. I doubt they go away (sure, branch closure is always a threat but the American market is big enough that I don't think they'd go there this quick) but they're definitely down the pecking order

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on like nothing happened
>things will go back to normal with time because their core audience is retarded and will support them
lol no they are fucked in the long run

>>69242983
I'm sure once people learn Charlie was getting some info from Nux the sisters will start attacking that point since he is their biggest boogieman when convenient.

>>69243204
But anon, she’s on ”the right side of history”.

>>69244459
Because making a multi-page callout post worked with Zaion and when you don't think of your employees as people it's hard to see the difference in public perception between them.
Also they're retarded, which is why they keep losing talents and not fixing the problems that drove them off. Meanwhile (You) keep covering your ears and closing your eyes, going on about how everyone will forget [Latest Drama] in a month as the graduations get more and more frequent, all with the same complaints.

>>69244845
>But anon, she’s on ”the right side of history”.
actually trying to make fun or criticize mentally ill people aka neurodivergent in sjw terms is a big no no for the people in the "right side of history"

>>69243204
Those rules only applie to certain people unfortunately.
She has the woman and POC buff.

>>69244821
They won't be able to do anything. The only people willing to work for them at this point are sea and third worlder euros who are shameless. NijiEn is done as a branch. If people barely tune into the sea chuubas from a superior corporation like cover what makes niji think that they can hire more sea and attract people eyes to their product.

>>69242012
While this is the most likely outcome, I still belieb it's possible Elira and her gang pull yet another smear campaign under Riku's radar, especially with GUR becoming more known. They seem the vindictive type and won't want to leave things as is.

>>69244845
calling out a suicide survivor is the cardinal sin of being on "the right side of history", this time next week she'll be unemployed and leeching off NotKyo

>>69244949
SJWs and wokes are without fail hypocrites anon, she belongs to the right groups so none of that matters to her.

>>69244118
>in 2023
It's great they specified only that year desu shows how they will just bend over backwards to deny that Elira has 2 figures while nearly every other girl has at best 1 or MAYBE 2. Never mind the plethora of MVs and collabs being snubbed from specific talents too.

>>69244986
doki is also a woman and POC, her monster effect negates daph's trap card

>>69242012
I mean this is what they should have done all along

>>69243409
Flips are not cheap though
Artists here operate on burgerbucks instead of local rates

>>69244608
Holy shit
She said it was her favorite song too

>>69242352
>daph
Like I'm gonna believe someone signed to Sentinals? The org that tried their hardest to not fire the sex pest Sinatraa because he can aim okay in Valorant?

>>69244404
maybe his mods banned anyone talking shit the last stream so it's just the diehards left? idk, never watched him

His last stream has 59k views, I imagine that's mainly from drama people looking to see if he was gonna say anything and evidently he isn't.

They should have done it from the beginning and nothing would have happened.

>>69245084
thats the thing anon those groups are prone to turning on each other and canabilizing itself
if another person higher on the woke chain hears about her comments about neurodivergents then she is going to get eaten by her own fanbase
hell you can even put the sin of "not believing all women" in her sjw sin list

>>69243345
wtf pwned lol

>>69245128
kek no way

>>69242680
I think a lot of indies will think twice about going corpo now for sure. I think indie is the new meta. Or corpos where talent own their ip

>>69244591
>Unless they're able to prove themselves entertaining, in which case some dramafags will stay
lol
lmao even

>>69244949
>Waaaaaah why does everyone hate me for bullying the suicidal girl who barely survived an evil company, it must be those evil SJWs with their basic level of empathy for the mentally infirm
Kys, you are really proud of your superior ability to accomplish it as a man, aren't you?

>>69242012
Least believable rrat I've read in weeks.

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on like nothing happened
they shoul've done that 2 weeks ago

>>69245084
destiny, vaush and keffals used to be "on the right side of history" at some point back in time
all it takes is but one mistake

>>69245252
>Or corpos where talent own their ip
so like cyberlive

>>69245120
Flips are cheap. They're content with making 2%. How much is that in pag pag money since they obviously can live well from that low income.

>>69245270
retard

hey wouldn't it be funny if Kyo let something slip during his graduation

Reminder that daph is Fagnis friend and that cover allowed both of them to pull a racial rant while altare was deleting and banning everyone who dared to speak back to them

>>69245336
lol no
most flip artists are well off sucking on their parents teat which is why they charge burger rates. they do it so that they will feel like a non flip artist

>>69245434
Huh

>>69242573
Nice..let me rap.....watch that video again

>>69245442
So their parents are still covering 98% of their household expenses? That's no way to live man.

>>69245371
>least projecting Nijisister

>>69242012
>it's over, let the last cinders fade
Never, since you asked.
>>69242212
yaaaa sista speak your truth, you've convinced me, queen frfr

>>69245466
You must've missed that collab fagnis and daph had.

>>69245434
>Fagni is dead
>Altare isn’t
Shame it couldn’t have been all of them that got canned.

>>69245514
>98
try a 100
all of them still live with their relatives because having an art degree or even doing art as your main source of income is a death sentence

>>69245128
kek she's too based

>>69245434
fagni doesmen was twitch shitter before becoming a homostar. 99% of the people he was close to have gotten in some drama within the past year kek, daph and scarra included

>>69242012
They should have done that in the first place and nothing would have happened.

>>69244491
Perish, alongside your black company. All evidence points to Niggy being a horrid place to work full of awful people, even on the JP side. Inui, after working with Hololive for one of Suisei's concerts, had to very carefully pick her words when forming a comparison between the two despite easily heaping praise on Holo. Another instance that springs to mind was little-miss-desuwa very obviously not being thrilled that for one of her important milestone streams she was given a "punishment game" by staff that she quite clearly did NOT agree to. These are small things, yes, but there are countless examples of these kinds of "Hmm..." moments throughout Niggysanji's history, and when taken as a whole they paint a very ugly picture of a business being run by people whose heads are still stuck in highschool. These tiny glimpses into the company's inner workings and culture aren't rare and are also never positive, not that you care, you probably don't watch anything but the EN branch where you can lust over Br*tish dick.

Even if this becomes true, and I hope for everyone's sake it will not, the truth is that things can never go back to how they were.
They broke the trust.
It might take a week, a month, or a year, but in any case, Nijisanji is finished as a major player on the western Vtuber stage. Unless they are pulling out some major audits and restructuring, but it's too late.

>>69245687
>Another instance that springs to mind was little-miss-desuwa very obviously not being thrilled that for one of her important milestone streams she was given a "punishment game" by staff that she quite clearly did NOT agree to.
What was it?

>>69245336
Most artists here are upper middle class to richfags since art supplies + good digital art rig is expensive
The poorfag ones are ostracized here since they have shit taste

>>69244906
is zaion's termination still up? i want to read it now to get ideas

>>69245572
Altare should've been suspended the moment he brought in his political and sjw stance during the Harry Potter arc. Some people might call me a schizo but I swear the girls wanted to play the game. Bae had done a Harry Potter spell streams that was leading obviously to her playing the game. The orange homo wanted to play it too. But then had to pull some damage control by making himself look even more retarded because he "confused" a gta mod that some guy blowing shit up in a reskinned oppressor mark 2 with the Potter game. If this had been a female talent I bet you one of my nutsack that she'd be suspended then cover would release a statement apologizing to the rainbow mob.

>>69245770
most of the poorfag artist do art on jeepneys or make jeepney route signs since those are more stable than online comissions

>>69245708
Even if they restructure and eliminate a whole host of bad actors, their image is tarnished. Their collective message BEFORE Riku’s makes this shit so much worse.

>>69245798
Never get a a job where you have to make decisions since youre as irrational as a woman

>>69245229
I remember her calling it her favorite at the time the song was released, she was really excited to cover it because of that. Fucking wild to see how things turned out. She might have mentioned it on Pomu’s post Virtual to Live stream IIRC

>>69242012
Man I fucking wish...
I think a lot of people, or atleast the actual vtuber fans, would prefer this outcome than for this whole shitshow to continue...

But as we've seen, nijisanji's pretty fucking dumb. If they continue to try to shit on doki once more just to save their face, it's not gonna end well at for them at this point...

Like even if let's say they're actually telling the truth that it's all doki's fault, the vast majority isn't gonna care, because of how dumb they've handled this shit... They're gonna face backlash whatever they say next, and if they attempt one more dumb shit then it's so over for them. Doki can't control the mob that'll be attacking, and the majority of them probably haven't watched or don't even watch selen/doki and is just taking this chance to shit on niji...

Right now it isn't even about niji vs doki, it's niji vs pretty much anybody who isn't kissing their ass and their talents.

>>69245850
At least they're doing something presentable unlike the chucklefucks that did the murals in the walls of the police and military HQ

>>69244459
>they thought they'd gain sympathy from doing it.

You're retarded. Someone is threatening to sue you and go public with the accusations if you don't do what they say. You don't do what they say and claim the allegations exist and they're false. It's that simple. People are emotional fuck wits so they don't analyze the claim being made and look for evidence. Being accused doesn't mean you don't deserve sympathy. You cunts are impossible

Do you think Elira is inherently sociopathic like Enna, or was she genuine in the beginning and just became a jaded evil bitch over time due to stagnating numbers, mediocre performance where her peers outshone her, and a power trip? It doesn't excuse any of her actions and she's not a victim in any case, but I'm curious if there's a conscience behind it all that regrets what she turned into or if she was always this way.

>>69246087
most of the people assigned to the public works projects aka charity stuff are the people in the lower and bottom end of the class and the incentives are additional points/grades
t. ex college professor

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on

If only they did that from the beginning, the damage is done but still not too late, Niji ain't going no where, maybe need a shake up on the EN side but that's about it.

>When I look at 4ch comments I get reminded of how insane they are
>Using a site called 4channel that was created by Hiroyuki from 2ch to help Overseas listeners, to badmouth Japanese companies is a joke at this point

So Anons why are you not respecting the Japanese creators of this site and keep hating Nijisanji instead?

>>69246298
Shut up.

>>69246298

>>69244491
>>69246144
>Someone is threatening to sue you and go public with the accusations if you don't do what they say.
I'm sorry is this supposed to be describing Selen? She literally never threatened anyone with anything.
I can only hope I'm just losing track of who is talking about who from this chain of replies but holy fuck you're typical retard NDF if you're trying to say Selen was threatening to go public

>>69246298
Because I'm not a nigger slave like you

>>69246379
>She literally never threatened anyone with anything.
Lol, do you even watch Dokibird?

>>69246298
>western whores ruin everything
>"NOOO YOU ARE ATTACKING JAPAN"
why are nijisisters so smooth brained?

>>69246298
Umm... because the creators of this site and the people behind nijisanji are different.. people?

>>69243657
Based. If only Selen streamed her sewerslide attempts. The sheer image of a stock sad Vtubers png and then a gunshot in the background makes my sides convulse wildly

>>69244459
if I'm allowed to be neutral, and bring a bit of my own personal rrat into this...
everything makes sense to me if we start from the principle that nijiEN doesn't have any money themselves
not saying they are poor or that they don't make money, just that they have no money
maybe lack of support from nijiJP, or embezzlement, or whatever
everything, from talents getting no support, to artists and collaborators having delayed payments if any at all, talents having to pay for everything out of their pockets, lack of management, no 3D models/lives, cancelled projects, etc

initially, I thought Doki had requested something so unfathomable out of them, they didn't have a choice and had to move forward with the termination notice even though they knew it would be the wrong move
but that couldn't be the case
a lot of money like billions as reparations? can't be, she was planning on returning to streaming as dokibird after graduation and selling merch (making money) from there
keeping the selen model? also impossible as, once again, she was already planning on returning to dokibird by at least as early as december (probably way before it)
maybe a public apology from niji or her play button? small things they'd do in a heart beat if they only needed that to keep everything behind closed doors

so what could've been: an instant graduation+ reparation money, obviously, as the last option
but not something exorbitant, but a decent amount to cover for her losses from the previous year
the problem is that nijiEN did NOT have that money, so they had to hold her back until they did, thus the delays and radio silence between the parties, and they couldn't bring this to nijiJP or things would get awful for them (I mean, JP would ask what happened, why did the negotiations failed, and most importantly why don't they have any money to make a hush agreement)
when she sent them her documents, they panicked and assumed she was coming out with everything, which would link with that rushed job of a termination notice (later confirmed it was made in less than 2 hours) as a hail mary completely ignoring repercussions, and expecting to garner sympathy from the public
the proof of that is that they had to make that 15 minute video later, because the hail mary obviously didn't work since it lacked context and information, so they had to bring those out there
but at that point it was too late and people already picked a side so it only helped them the dig themselves further, even more when inconsistencies still existed after the video, and worse of all, names were given for the first time

>>69245878
Nope you stupid faggot. If he didn't wanted to play the game then all he had to do is not play it. What he didn't had to do was ruin other people plans and interject his fucking views into other people. That's what a sjw does. What he decides to support is his own business and his alone. No need to drag the others into his political stance. You're either a faggot or retarded woman to be think that what altare said and did was justified. Fuck you and leave my hobby alone go back to watching your leftist slop in peace.

>>69244093
>even he's distanced himself after SHE went on a schizo anti-white rant
made me do a double-take
when even the grand roach itself gets repelled by YOUR racism, that's gotta be an achievement

>>69246420
Do you?

>>69246144
So explain to use then: why did they do it?
What did they expect to win? What did they expect to happen?

>>69246631
Yes I do. You didn't answer the question.

>>69242012
You wish, they will do it again

>>69245687
>Perish, alongside your black company
Like I said you have some problems you should have checked. You are mentally ill.

>>69246589
It's a branch company. Unless Anycolor is comically evil and sucking all profit from EN and telling them to work anyway, they can easily dump funds into it if needed.

>>69246682
They operated like a Japanese idol agency. They are famous for going scorched earth when talent leaves on bad term. ESP when the company in question was clearly in the wrong.

>>69242012
The thing that really going to screw them isn’t the loss of audience, though, it’s that they’re going to struggle to replace EN talents who graduate or are fired in the future, leading to a slow bleed until there’s nothing left. After all, nobody in the west wants to work for a black company.

>>69242012
That’s the best thing Niji could do in this scenario therefore it won’t happen.

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on like nothing happened
Which is what they should have done from the start
I still don't get the point of that Elira stream and the EN management statement, other than making things worse
Because Selen talked shit about management? lol
It wasn't even the first time an ex-liver did this, Gundou did it, but the JP management didn't go out of their way to pull out statement and shit, because it's irrelevant
Sure the IR was bad from JP side, but it wasn't THIS bad
At that point only a few thousands unsubbed, no big deal, and only a few small channel covered the drama which was already an everyday occurrence anyway
But the EN management just had to make a big deal about it for some reason, just why
Just pray that Elira isn't as stubborn as Roa who went MIA for almost FOUR fucking years, just to try to prove a point like an idiot

>>69246298
Barefoot gen electric boogalo when?

>>69246894
what happened with Roa again?

>>69246144
>Someone is threatening to sue you and go public with the accusations if you don't do what they say. You don't do what they say and claim the allegations exist and they're false. It's that simple. People are emotional fuck wits so they don't analyze the claim being made and look for evidence
You're saying exactly what >>69244459
is asking about, schizos is
That's the exact point that doesn't make sense.
You going out exposing accusations before the accusations were even public knowledge and claiming they're false, without providing any solid evidence that isn't "I investigated myself" will only paint a target on your back.
If you run inside a police station screaming I DIDN'T RAPE THAT WOMAN, all that is going to happen is that the cops will ask you to sit down for a talk, they won't go
>well I guess the guy didn't rape some woman!

>>69246894
I thought Roa went MIA cause they were involved in a court case? That shit takes years.

>>69246298
???
Moot is Australian faggot

huh

>>69246589
God, fuck artists. Can't wait until AI is perfected so they die off

>>69246798
>It's a branch company. Unless Anycolor is comically evil and sucking all profit from EN and telling them to work anyway,
I mean isnt that what that one NijiID complained about? how niji was getting the little revenue they had and that they were forced to choose between putting food on the table or investing in their career

>>69247031
>moot
Ah, yeah, the Facebook guy.

>>69246692
nta but I do. So what exactly are you perceiving as her threatening people? Please, enlighten me.

>>69246144
Actually, they admitted of guilt they also admitted fault that company broke nda and showed them documents they weren't supposed to see, if they had simply just let it blow over then they would be streaming like normal today. Also Nijisanji did admitted that bullying took place but they don't think it was that "bad" to be categorized as bullying. Then there's smear campaigns they launched on Japan about doki. And the smear campaign they had elira do. Nijisanji is 100% guilty in this verdict their desperate actions to deflect blame and guilt proves it and it has bit them hard in the ass.

>>69246298
Moot...

>>69247078
No, he’s the Myspace dude

>>69242012
They can't, because when the next graduation happen (soon, maybe next month) people will remember again, and everything will go out of control again

Unironically true nothing will happen to the company it will more than likely stabilize. They'll learn the lesson (maybe) that all they have to do is shut the fuck up and normal post and 9/10 any drama will swing itself out. Hopefully Doki will continue to be successful as well.

>>69247074
Isn't that in reference to 2% going to livers? I'm talking about the funds of the branch itself.

>>69242391
what did she lie about?

>>69246298
>they don't even know who actually created 4chan
lol

>>69246798
>Unless Anycolor is comically evil and sucking all profit

Its faster just to say Japanese corporation.

The truth is Asmongold, Moist, Koefficient covering this has already exposed kurosanji to the world. Most people's first experience with niggersanji is Moist destroying them

One thing I've wondered is, obviously the talent pays for the projects at niji--but I'm guessing the invoices are sent to niji who are supposed to deduct it from the talent to avoid doing? Is that correct?

>>69247165
>>69247078
No, no, he's the 9gag lad.

>>69247222
The whole rant was lies. Or based on lies. It was like a flat earther making arguments.

>>69247298
I thought he owned iFunny?

>>69244987
If they go all in on NijiES then they'd have a chance lmao

>>69246144
>>69244491
>>69246420
i love that the only argument anyone defending Niji has is to ignore the fact that Nijisanji pointed the "bullying" finger at themselves with their termination letter before Selen/Doki said anything, and ignore everything Doki has said about the situation since then about wanting to move on and put the past behind her.

nobody was threatening to sue anyone, the legal document was her saying why she wanted to leave the company. Some retard on the niji side of things must have misunderstood what was happening because Doki has never said anything about suing anyone, she's only ever been on the defensive to accusations Niji has been making about her.

The current situation is entirely a self-inflicted wound and the only way to defend these actions is to just close your eyes and imagine things that didn't happen.

>>69247210
>Isn't that in reference to 2% going to livers? I'm talking about the funds of the branch itself.
No he was talking about funds for nijiid which is why he specified investing in the career aka events and sponsorships which niji didnt provide nor approve if they managed to get one like that tv slot

>>69246298
>2024
>I am forgotten...

>>69247289
afaik nijisanji doesnt give any project budget to their livers so they have to fund everything from their own pocket
its the same thing in jp

They should delete the video and never speak of it again and should continue as if nothing happened. The "livers" have no business fanning drama and should not act like a shield for the company. It is not their job, duty or responsibity. Their job and responsibility is putting a smile on the viewers face and that's what they should focus on and avoid doing whatever Elira, Vox and Ike did as much as possible. Whomever greenlit this stream should be held responsible.
I say again: Elira should delete that stream and never speak of it again. Dont apologize, dont try to justify it or the deletion. Just never mention it again, and continue as if it never happened in the first place. Her mods should delete any comments about it and time out anyone who mentions it.

>>69247469
He went to Google and got tainted, who would want to remember him?

>>69246144
and what was the next step of this "don't do what they say" masterplan?
>if we don't do [something], they'll [expose], so what do we do?
>well, let's not do [something]
>*[exposes]*
>everyone hates us now, we sure won this fight sisters!

>>69242012

>>69247368
This, This is it.

Why is this so fucking hard to understand. This is why the NDF people are completely malicious because the facts and timeline are clear as day. It all went down only because Nijisanji itself came out and attacked Selen out of nowhere.

>>69246298
Creator of this site isn't Japanese tho. Are these nips retarded ?

>>69247565
90 degrees isn't deep enough, please do 180

>>69242012
The NiniJP side of Anycolor will try to move on, but if they don't start tard wrangling NijiEN then it's never gonna end. Letting NijiEN fall into the hands of silver-spooned, urban Canadian women in their 20s was the worst thing that happened to the branch. And it's AC's fault for only giving NijiEN passive, barely ESL staff. If AC let NijiEN continue, not only could it likely slip up again, but it could also sabotage the rest of the company's attempts at healing... again.

Anycolor really needs to keep to restructuring behind the scenes. Then allow any liver who wants to leave, leave in peace. For those who are judged to have gone too far, give them a Mel-style termination where they agreed to just part ways. Do NOT post termination notices written up by women with arrested development as you tactlessly shove the liver out the door. Finally, when everybody starts streaming again, keep them on a leash. At best, let them cry to their audience that they just want to do their best for their audience and that they love their coworkers. Does not matter if any of the livers are bullshiting (I'm willing to bet some are genuine at least). You clearly have rabid fans who really will let you get away with murder. DO NOT TOUCH EX-LIVERS AFTER THEY LEAVE. At worst, if anybody gets particularly uppity, just express the willingness to defend yourself through proper channels and do that privately. And express that with as much flavor as a bottle of water. International social media is dominated by indies big and small from all kinds of industries, along with their fans. Their relationship with online corporate operations is poor and runs back as early as early Youtube networking schemes. So consider the situation and your options carefully before publicly dragging "one of their own" through the mud.

If all that can happen, then they can get back to business in peace. Growth and future recruitment will be pretty fucked, though. Granted, it will be better that way for the time being. Rapid growth is partly to blame for the current situation, anyway. Use resources to improve the lives of the remaining livers and fans instead.

>>69247498
This would be fine, if AnyColor didnt also take 98% of all merch and 30% of donations.

And if they didnt also reject all projects and perms our of hand.

>>69247086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YCUbQOJB0&t=456s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YCUbQOJB0&t=707s

>>69245229
>>69245596
Found it, she talks about it here: https://www.youtube.com/live/RaZ3XsqMW2
I’m too bitter to scrub through it

>>69246298
You know what, they're right. I'm going to 2ch right now and shitting it up as well. Got to show my respect.

>>69247522
Anon, she is making money off that video, she ain't going to delete it,kek

>>69247565
they muted it in time, but he only bent over to let rip a nasty one
a real shirako-banquet stinker aimed right at his company's logo

>>69247342
Pretty sure it was digg

this doesn't include non-JP collabs

for the record, Enna has 2 figures and 83 merch

>69247680
>What is defending yourself from a smear campaign
Keep trying, sister. Maybe one day Vox will look at you unless you're over the age of 15.

>>69247781
>everyone who doesn't agree with you is a sister

>>69247680
okay so are you actually just retarded? She was already over it and Nijisanji were the ones who decided to throw accusations at HER with the clique stream. She isn't threatening anyone, she is raising a shield because SHE is the one getting threatened.

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on like nothing happened

You seriously believe they're smart enough to let this go? Really?

>>69247609
They probably just looked up the owner, saw he was Japanese and assumed that of course it had to have been him to create it.

>>69246144
>wtf what do you mean I can't just indefinitely stall negotiations forever whilst you languish in a suspension earning no income until you break and give into our demands? You can't just enforce your legal rights and stuff, that's fucked up, YOU'RE THREATENING ME

>>69247609
Reminds me of Watame's abject shock to learn that Umbrellas were not in fact invented in Japan.

>>69247269
Yup, they have a lot of normies in their audience. That are now aware of the VT black company.

They wont recover from this.

So Nijisanji will likely be way careful now since the CEO had to actually bow on video and Doki has so far followed Lawyerman's directions.
Buuuuuuuut do you think any third-parties will be able to stir more shit into this pot?

>>69247680
>>69247817
Nijisanji decided to share with the public what selen told them privately through lawyers
Elira decided to read a bunch of stupid shit and out Enna, Millie and herself as the bullies, not selen.
Selen never threatened or attacked anyone publicly like they did.

>>69242012
I'll believe this after Elira and Vox put out another normal stream. At this point it could already be too late, and at least one more head may be rolling soon.

>>69247887
Normalfags destroying things they don't understand like always.

>>69246798
>Unless Anycolor is comically evil and sucking all profit from EN
I'm half sure we can assume this to be real for at least a portion of the argument
Hell, we already know the talents only make 2% at best, all the rest that isn't being taken by YouTube is going to Niji. Isn't that hard to imagine then don't funnel any money on EN at all, like they did with ID (that let's be real, EN was just a rebrand of ID) and just suck it out of them
It's either that or the embezzlement rrat, and I'm more inclined to believe the former if I had to pick between the two

>>69247018
And what court case that is?
Bingo

>>69247838
>asspained games journalists keep bringing up Gamergate

LOL yeah, they will never let it go.

>>69247680
>company says your a liar
>don't allow yourself to be defamed
>say you have proof of this that's with legal parties on both sides
>this is somehow threatening people
At this point I genuinely can't tell whether it is just the rabid lust you sisters have over Vox or whether it's more about the fact you all come from shitholes that have the same corporate = god mindset as JP does. Baffling behaviour.

>>69246965
Sued for defamation and lost.

>>69248122
>Baffling behaviour
I agree. Chinese woman does stupid shit, must defend.

>>69245252
Corpos need to let livers have an option to own or Buyout the IP if they leave IMO. This asian IDOL shit is dated.

>>69247328
it was an offline chat some drama vtuber narrated, maybe she knew he would do it or maybe she's innocent. The rant didn't make sense but she's mad her friends might get doxxed if it goes to court.

>>69242012
whoever is running the vetting for new hires will make sure that there will be no serious competition which will lead to an increase in ass kissers and nepo hires.they are too petty to let go of doki and whoever is getting thrown under the bus next.this is far from being over and we will see reruns of this with diffrent actors.

>>69247354
Who's going to watch nijiES? And is riku about to pay the cartel their cut in order to be able to operate in Mexico and the rest of South America? You know what's going happen? Some midget with a gun is going to find it offensive and they'll find the liver and give him a "graduation" party while the stream is rolling. They'd have to hire Chicanos and new Yorkers instead. Even then our inflation rates here in the US are through the roof. 2% isn't a livable wage when they can work at Walmart and home depot for 15-20 an hour instead.

>>69248122
She recorded a private conversation with a friend without their knowledge and consent. If this doesn't tell you she's a snake then you're the dumbass.

>>69248213
B-but Canadian law!

>>69247680
Fuck you on about? This is literally her just defending herself. Is saying she has a lawyer that will help her, considered a threat? Come on you gotta do better than this

>>69248287
Legal doesn't mean moral.

>>69248213
she didn't need consent and you don't know why or what the purpose of the recording was you retarded fag

IF SHE WANTED TO MOVE ONE, WHY THE LAWYER HUH???

>>69248213
she recorded a converstation with a coworker based on her experience in the company in order to be safe in the future.

>>69248213
>has proof of bullying taking place
They aren't entitled to their privacy anymore. What you think she should've told them ahead of time that she would record them so that they can clean up their acts for the recording? Are you fucking retarded. Imagine shilling this company and you aren't even being paid to do so.

>Sister flails around trying to defend herself
It'd be cute if it wasn't so pathetic.
Keep dancing, monkey. Dance so we can keep making fun of you.

>>69248213
So it was about Vox's recordings...
Sis you're making it too obvious

>>69248361
>one
seamonkey

>>69248386
>They aren't entitled to their privacy anymore
Why don't you doxx doki while you're at it?

>>69248213
Sister you forgot to say "she's literally blackmailing him"

>69248361
Man, feel like we are being raided by SEA monkey again. What is this shit

>>69248386
delicious boot

>>69248213
>>69248287
>implying vox is a friend and not an eternal sex-pest
Yes, Canadian law. If I'm in a company that's pulling shady shit I'm sure as hell going to record troubling conversations too. Again, people in the west don't trust their corporate overlords as much as you do, still too much, but no where near on this level of insanity.

>>69248361
best guess is she just wanted to leave amicably and asked her lawyer to help her write stuff to niji staff for that purpose

>>69248213
A test recording of her coworker that was done in a single-party state.

If there was really nothing to hide, then Vox would have just come out and stated what exactly was recorded. But he didn't, so it's obvious to me that he wanted to discredit the existence of such a recording by espousing his betrayal because there is something being recorded that is really bad.

>>69248451
Worse, we're getting raided by the femchinkoids from the doxxsite.

>>69248430
Fucking disgusting Chinese women man. How does someone end up mentally fucked like them. Is like their void of empathy and sentiments.

>>69248451
Its because we are retard. keep up with how many deleted spam posts we got
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=true&search_text=nijidoki

>>69248501
>A test recording
Do you really belib?

>>69248444
>recording a conversation between coworkers that has only been shared between legal parties (until Niji yet again fucked up) is not doxxing
Vox will never fuck you, and he probably laughs thinking about all the lonely women giving him money.

>>69248361
Because Yugo had to lawyer up to even be able to leave, and Zaion was shot in the back of the head, twice, when she tried to as well. It is 100% needed to leave Kurosanji on your own terms.

>>69248444
I like doki and Nijisanji En needs to pay for what they did simple as.
Again are you retarded? You must be. I bet you're one of these women.

>>69248361
I don't know if you ever worked in your life, but usually "having a job" revolves around a "contract" between the employer and employee. The contract, unless you live in some weird ass third world country, is a legal matter, and breaching it for whatever reason is a matter that involves lawyers and legal justice.

>>69246351
Sukikirai hags are retarded and think they know English but clearly not.

>>69248444
you realize if this goes to court she doxes herself too right? Probably why they kept harassing her but now they're doing damage control and trying to stress her out

>>69248569
I don't think Doki's lawyer would have allowed her to say it publicly if it genuinely wasn't.

>>69248444
Legally? No.
Morally? If Vox is admitting to any of things that Doki has complained about, no.

>>69248636
Civil cases almost never go to court. Usually lawyers just do their job.

>>69248648
waiting for the sister rrat that she has no lawyer

>>69248632
why is this bad for doki?

>>69248814
Everyone who doesn't believe Doki is a sister that chokes on Vox's dick. You just don't understand.

>>69244118
>there are strong speculations on Elira being the NijiEN management and showing favoritism
>"ELIRA IS NOT THE MANAGER BECAUSE..... SHE JUST ISNT, OK?! STOP DIGGING FOR INFO. YOU ARE ALL SCHIZOS. MOVE ON, NOTHING TO SEE HERE"
sisters....

lol Elira is the one who better watch herself. The second she steps back into Canada she will get served for leaking employee medical information. Thanks to kurosanji's non-compete contracts all their livers are employees and not contractors since they took away their right to work for other employers. The second Elira walks into a public courthouse you won't need imageboards to doxx.

>>69248633
Sea and Asian countries don't have workers rights they don't treat workers like human beings, to them an employee is just another cog in the machine that can easily be replaced. They thought losing doki would not impact them at all based on how they treat everyone else over there in those countries. What Nijisanji En is currently going through is the definition of fucking around and finding out.

>>69246682
>>69246974
>>69247557
Sisters never respond to this.
They literally have no answer for the most obvious question of this drama.

>>69246869
This. OP is giving them way too much credit.

>>69245708
There's a sliver of a chance for them to recover if they stop the dragonhunting right now and make a restructuration to the whole branch and terminate the bad actors and focus on moving on.

But since Elira is in control and she's petty, she won't let Selen win and have the last laugh, even if that means her head will roll for sure, so NijiEN will once again fuck up and rile up the community.

>>69246143
Being in a position of power corrupts people, specially if all their life they've been on the short end of the stick. Once they get a taste of authority they go mad with powertrip fantasies.

>>69249183
worst case scenario:

nijisanji releases doki's documents who are NOT supposed to be public since it's basically a really personal diary of hers talking about her grievances with the company and the people in it

dokibird an heros for real

nijisanji will forever be seen as the company that made someone commit suicide

>>69249336
>dokibird an heros for real
That won't happen. Attempts are attempts for a reason.

If Elira/Millie/Vox or anyone who is heavily implicated in this case is terminated or graduated early, you can beat your ass they will talk, and if they do they might reveal the extent of the "bullying" and harrassment. I wonder if public opinion will change if they do that.

>>69247920
I think only retarded 3rd parties will say anything. Even if Doki is horrible, stepping your foot in is career sabatoge because everyone knows who is feeding you your lines.

More likely we will see Doki get blacklisted like Sayu is. But I think there's plenty who are outside of that that will be eager to collab with doki and get numbers. Fillian for example.

Old power is fading. A new era is being born right in front of us

>>69248569
Vox is the one who made the allegation to begin with. He's the one that should be proving it wasn't a test recording since he's the one who brought it up in the first place.

>>69249385
>gets terminated for bullying
>continues to bully the same person outside of niji, proving the point that you are a bully even more
the jokes write themselves

>>69242012
>they will never mention this ever again and will move on like nothing happened
This is what they would do if they were smart. But we both know they are not.

>>69249421
Doki literally admitted to recording Vox. She made the argument that it's just a coincidence and misunderstanding.

>>69249336
>dokibird an heros for real
She'd receive a massive wave of support pretty much instantly, no way she'd end herself.

If she did, though? FINAL YAB.

>>69249421
The thing is Vox seemed to be very vague on the recording. Doki's story is probably true and Vox was just given incomplete information

>>69249505
>Doki literally admitted to recording Vox.
Vox was the first to make it public. Therefore he has made the public claim and therefore the burden of proof is upon him to prove or disprove the claim.

>>69249632
Vox made it public and Doki literally confirmed it. Why are you so asshurt over it?

>>69242212
Nyfco really isn't sending their best lmao.

>>69249632
vox makes it seem like this recording was done maliciously even tho he himself doesn't even remember what was said and when

that's selective memory if I ever seen it

but yes, doki did confirm that she did record him

>>69249505
A test recording for a collab, not a secret private conversation like Vox alleges. Vox is the one flinging shit, Vox should be backing up those claims.

Surely he knows which of these conversations were being recorded yes? He knows it's not any of the normal work-related recordings made as part of their job as a livestreamer yeah? So tell us exactly what was recorded. Vox brought it up, Vox is the one framing it as some personal betrayal and not just an unused recording for work, where are the receipts behind these accusations?

Doki is the one on the defense, Vox is the one that needs to prove any of what he's saying isn't either a misunderstanding at best or outright lies and slander at worst.

>>69249670
Sister, this is just how logic goes.

The existence of it isn't under question. It's the nature of the recording and what it contains that is currently under Vox's burden of proof.

>>69243657
>guys, what if... BOTH BAD?
You are not slick, NDF.

>>69246143
She definitely had sociopathic tendencies from the beginning, but they only really manifested when she got a taste of power. Everything snowballed from there. She's likely somewhat shocked and surprised that everything spiralled out of control the way it has, and is by now mainly trying to save her own skin. But it's starting to unravel and I don't think she has a solution for it

>>69249872
good bitches get ditches

>>69247469
Who?

>>69249765
Yes, Doki records a person and the person doesn't know what was recorded. It's obviously not Doki's burden of proof.

>>69248885
yeah I don't know what sister means or why Vox having a harem is harassment worthy

>>69249966
vox implied that the recording was malicious
then said he doesn't know how and when it was recorded
doki just confirmed the existance of it and what the purpose of it was
she has the recording and is saying that the recording was nothing more than a nothinburger
vox doesn't have the recording and is saying it is malicious and a SEVERE BREACH of privacy even tho he knows nothing about the content of it

are you retarded anon?

>>69250124
If it's a nothingburger, why does Doki's lawyer's letter even mention it?

>>69249966
I'm trying to figure out if this is a genuine response or not, it's retarded enough that I actually can't tell if you're trolling or just really stupid.

>the person doesn't know what was recorded.
Given Vox claimed he thoroughly went through the documents. He knows what was recorded. Unless he was talking completely out of his ass in which case, why believe anything he says?

He came to the public with the claim
>I was recorded
>I felt betrayed
Okay. As a member of the public what the fuck do I do with this information? He needs to provide more context of the recording and what was in it if he wants me to sympathise with him. If he was talking about some deeply personal trauma that isn't work related but Selen recorded it, then yeah, fuck Selen. But if that was the case, Vox would have specified. But he didn't which makes it somewhat obvious that whatever was recorded, implicates him in the things Doki has claimed.

>>69249966
If he doesn't know what was recorded then how does he know it isn't anything related to work? Like a recording from any collab they were both part of? A mic check just before starting?

On what basis did Vox have to assume it was malicious?

>>69248213
> d-doki betrayed her friends by recording their conversations
> v-vox and elira are such good people they would never do something like that

i don't understand the argument here

so is doki going to sue or what

>>69250202
you fat illiterate fag, the letter wasn't made by her lawyer, it was document made by selen, basically a diary on her grievances and thoughts and stuff she did during her time in the company. It was ADVISED BY HER LAWYER to send that document niji lawyers, not MADE BY THEM

>>69250202
>If it's a nothingburger, why does Doki's lawyer's letter even mention it?
Because, you fucking chink, that's what discovery is in terms of dealing with a lawsuit. EVERYTHING and ANYTHING that one legal team finds, needs to be sent to the other legal team so that they can agree upon the evidence. If you whip out a surprise piece of evidence in court that the other party wasn't made aware of, it's inadmissible.

If Doki's tweet is to be believed, she was detailing everything she remembered and could recall. This was noted by her lawyer and sent to the other legal team. That's proper process.

>>69249764
I swear to all that is holy I want niggersanji to burn
But can someone explain the relevance of the recording? Like evidently this evidence packet was basically Selen journaling all of the bullying being done against her, tracking convos, etc., so if the recording had nothing bullying in it, why did it get added to the docket? Like, if it's an innocuous test recording where nothing happened either way, why is it in the same pile of documents as (presumably) managers lecturing her about being a bad corpo slave who needs to know her fucking place or whatever they said
Like idk if I'm communicating what I'm asking properly, was vox just casually insulting her during what should have been just a Collab prep session? Why is this elusive recording in the files? Is there a whole pile of audio files Selen just batch-attached, and Niji management picked out this one innocent recording that found its way into the pile and told vox "hey look at how evil she is she recorded even a conversation where you didn't even do anything" so he'd drag her with muh breach of trust?

>>69250403
sisters are are fat illiterate pigs that learn english by watching dick sucking RP asmr

>>69250202
Presumably, the ENTIRE DOCUMENT was a nothingburger because it was not a legal threat, it was Doki explaining why she wanted to quit because management was fucking ghosting her and not letting her graduate. Some retard on Nijisanji's side must have had a complete brain fart and reacted as if it were something it wasn't, and now Nijisanji look like a clique of bullies trying to get their suicide survivor victim to finish the job.

>>69250449
as far as I understand, there is no relevance to the recording besides her just saying she did a recording during that time
the person who made it seem like the recording was malicious was vox, not selen

>>69246589
>(later confirmed it was made in less than 2 hours)
no, its only confirmed that it was posted within 2-3 hours. its highly likely that every liver there has a file of infractions, and after december, they probably had prepared the termination notice. this makes it being so terrible a lot more funny.

>>69250521
that's 1000000000000000000% what it is, and it shows once again the incompetence of nijisanji on not understanding how to deal with their talents

>>69248446
Looking through some of these myself but jesus fucking christ is a nightmare of a website to navigate through.