/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

seems like an excuse to dismiss any opinions going against selen being a perfect human bean
nice boogeyman

>>69218120
Fuck you Nijijannies for censoring us digging for the truth and fuck you NDF for your paid shill campaigns

>>69218245
nice try NDF, we all know Selen ain't a perfect human being. We can all see the very obvious disinformation campaigns you're trying to pull on /vt/

>>69218120
So what, someone in NijiEN is leaking this?

>>69218120
Surely there are some good people there who would veto this right?

>>69218120
Jfc, if they were smart they would just apologize and their moronic fanbase will return after a week or two. If they drag it out they're gonna continue losing.

>>69218396
Extremely likely but it's uncertain if LARP or legitimate but we all know there's a legitimate civil war within NijiEN right now to support Doki or support management if NuxTaku's source is legitimate.

Jump to 1:47 at https://youtu.be/RL2Trs2w-ho?si=12iFoCuxTGEGgTdY

I'm inclined to believe they're going to do something extremely fucked up in the future especially with trying to manipulate /vt/ right now

>>69218120
We should probably look for streamers we kmow are friends with the clique and use similar arguments that daph uses. They'll all sound similar if the slander is coming from the same place.

>>69218409
Assuming JP took over EN management, they could tardwrangle them from saying anything on stream or social media but they probably have friends/fans who might just be stupid enough to put their neck on the line for the ones in on it

>>69218530 (me)
Sorry it's 1:45 but it's extremely telling because it makes sense not everyone is a fucking prick within NijiEN and just gagged.

>>69218120
vtubergate

>>69218409
Its an all out war in there from the sounds of it. Some people feel the need to further discredit Doki to save their own reputations, partially due to the GURRAT

>>69218120
The fact that they could or would commit to this bit is unsurprising and means that they haven't learned a damn thing from this ordeal. The problem was never the technical aspects of the violations, and at this point, even the administrative roadblocks they threw up are a shrinking point. Their horrific hit piece and their quadruple down was and remains the critical failure. That they would entertain quintupling down in creative ways is hilarious and I'm here to watch the fire reflash.

>>69218120
>>>69204145
>From what I understood, since I am keeping almost everyone at an arm's length at this point, for my own image, they want to effectively speak to their friends about "their truth", so that a grassroot, coordinated pushback turns public sentiment around.

>The discussion on discord is infantile, with several livers providing absurd suggestions, and engaging in asinine thought experiments about how they can turn sentiment around.

>From what I gather, a recently graduated liver will lay the groundwork, since they would be bound only by the non-disparagement agreement, and the non-disclosure agreement, allowing them to provide information about certain topics with no particular risk. Other graduated and terminated livers have refused (thus far) to engage, because they may or may not be signed with other agencies.


>One particular liver stated that if that are going to go through with this, they would have to go through proper channels, and everyone else fell in line. They will likely pitch it as providing information anonymously to their friends in the influencer sphere, so they could restore Nijisanji's and Anycolor's image in the west.

>I don't have the smallest of inklings whether Anycolor management will agree.
The PR managers that have been effectively tutoring us have been very kind and professional, I did not get the sense of impending doom, but it's clear the branch will be restructured once the personnel that Nijisanji is looking for gets hired and orientated.

>>69218120
Nijisanji management will certainly attempt some astroturfing to improve their reputation in the EN market while going even further with their smear campaign.

>>69218530
In the same video at 44:50 Nux slips up and says "Talent has access to all of their accounts" and then corrects himself to Niji. This is about the twitter retweets

https://youtu.be/RL2Trs2w-ho?si=haBJVUsnDvRgZuIo [Open]

Further verifying that talent have access to all accounts, aka talent are management

What do you mean, 3rd attempt?

Well they have a 50/50 chance. As much as people like seeing a story of large corp burning themself , they also like seeing a story of deceiving person get their comeuppance

>>69218530
>>69218602
All he says is there's a civil war, and then just moves on.
What the fuck, where's more proof?

>>69218774
what you want everyone to fucking leak discord logs, are you a fucking idiot sister?

>>69218530
The thought of doing reps on Nux repulses me, so for those who bother to follow, does he have any credibility or records with scoops, or is he just another grifter?

>>69218409
I don't know, maybe the money is too good and they want to destroy Doki in the process

>>69218120
it's funny selene does nothing in these trying times and nijibots go on full meltdown mode

>>69218685
>using moom for your NDF post
fuck off and die

>>69218774
We'll have to wait till march or April for some reason. All the dramafags are holding on to damning information thy can only release by then.

>>69218936
They can't fathom the idea of taking an L, it's fucking ridiculous

>>69218120
>the personnel that Nijisanji is looking for
You mean the minimum wage ESL hire they're looking for?

>>69218900
He's Ren's PL friend, Sayu's friend, and has been saying shit about Niji forever

>>69218842
>Can't get anything to legitimize a claim
Goddamn you're stupid.
The embezzlement rrat works because there's proof of Elira is funneling all the march to herself. You got to post something to feed your rrat.

>>69218990
Sounds like they don't have it.

>>69218409
I wouldn't expect the plan is any official statement, but rather them leaking a bunch of shit to a 3rd party.

>>69218120
>those retards could have just forgotten about Selen altogether
>they chose to keep digging their own grave even further
Who could have guessed niji was the true menhera company all along?

>>69218990
Probably an NDA they're waiting to run out

>>69218990
If March or April is their deadline before the bomb drops, I genuinely believe they're trying to turn public opinions around before then. It would make a lot of sense

>>69218936
Rrats are a bunch of randoms who have been pissed with Niji for ages, and successfully hit them where it hurts because they have been up to shady shit.
The problem with their actions of transparency is that certain people actually want stuff hidden. This campaign is going to be a laugh once the wrong thing slips and they throw one of their own under the bus.
Also this is an example of the people who pieced it all together >>/vt/thread/S65445529#p65478968 they can't do shit about it because now there is way more people digging and avenues being explored.

>>69219075
Read the fucking leak by OP you idiot. He already mentioned it's a fucking rrrat, you humungous twitter retard

>>69218698
>they also like seeing a story of deceiving person get their comeuppance
That just isn't plausible with Doki literally only playing defense.
The only thing she could even possibly lie about is her suicide attempts... and at this point Niji has done so much damage to its own brand they're almost irrelevant to the response. Everything else is Niji saying things they claim Doki said, and she hasn't commented on any of it.

>>69219135
Yeah, before the Selen termination Niji could still handle a scandal. After all this shit, another scandal will be even more believable

>>69219193
>Read a post on 4chan and take it at face value.
Shit rrat, come back to me when you have some evidence like the embezzlement rrat.
Fag.

>>69218990

I assume it's info from someone who plans to be out of the company by then and wants to avoid the hellfire.

>>69218120
I can't imagine that any of the influencers in the community who have already made their stand against Niji would be turned by this shit.

If daph was a dry run of that they failed miserably. She sounded like an absolute fucking retard trying to cast doubt on Selen.

>>69218990
>>69219135
>they're gonna keep talking about Selen in fucking April
Jesus fucking Christ, literally obsessed.

>>69219210
If you see how other rratposters were ratting, people think they'll do triple-down because they're blinded by rage and can't see themselves as a bad person in the scandal. It's all good or bad, nothing in-between. They want to get back at doki and if you see something suspicious by 3rd parties, there might be conflicts of interest in the works and planned since just now. Mark my words, the rrrrats have proven things time and time again!

>>69219258
NDF, go get that Steam Gift Card, bro. You're clearly a sister

Rrat thread? In that case how does the following align with the timeline of the gurrat?
https://rentry.org/exx63

>>69218120
Good. The truth about this BPD professional victim must come out.

Original formation (2/13-14)
>>/vt/thread/68996770
>>/vt/thread/69014403
>>/vt/thread/69029124
>>/vt/thread/69036707
>>/vt/thread/69041415

2/14 (Janny Awakening)
>>/vt/thread/69048760
>>/vt/thread/69045907
>>/vt/thread/69068838
>>/vt/thread/69077250

2/14-15 (Reformation)
>>/vt/thread/69120347
>>/vt/thread/69120405
>>/vt/thread/69142853
>>/vt/thread/69150476

2/15 (Jannies Strike Back)
>>/vt/thread/69158754
>>/vt/thread/69151314
>>/vt/thread/69150829
>>69186816

2/15-16 (Cursed Rratsurrection)
>>/vt/thread/69210946
>>69212675

>>69219370
They can't stop being so obsessed with winning, it's fucking ridiculous.

>>69219441
>Wantin creditable ratts makes you a sister.
Sounds like you're spreading false rrats to get people to ignore the real ones.

>>69219462
How does Milord's stinky toes taste sister?

>>69219330
>If daph was a dry run of that they failed miserably. She sounded like an absolute fucking retard trying to cast doubt on Selen.
That's because that's all they have left outside the organisation. Even NDF midwits have bailed at this point, and all they have are seething sisters who can barely string together a sentence.

>>69219474
also stop posting the wall of text image compilations that are already compiled into links on the rentry, they're just prune targets

>>69219450
this is for the future, bros, note it down for the gurrat. It's a warning call that if they get the okay from Anykara Central / Headquarters, they're going to try to manipulate the western audience

>>69219497
Winning what? The lose all your audience because you can't just shut your fat trap and move on award?

Hopefully this shit show of an EN branch makes Vspo hesitant to actually pull the trigger.

>>69219462
>Everything she says is a lie!
>Except that one twitter bio from years ago!
Cool story, sis.

>>69219514
How does chinklen fat chink asshole does? Reminder that Vivi's PL unfollowed her and she stood by the other livers statement even though she said Selen was her oshi before. She must've fucked up pretty bad behind the scenes for her to have such a low opinion now.

>>69219594
They're bullies and want the last word in, they want to feel like they won the court of public opinion but their retarded rage can't make them understand that by doing it like this, everyone will hate them even more. Hell, they might think they might succeed for the third time.

>>69218607
Lmao

>>69218683
https://youtu.be/RdiPPv879UI

>>69219624
This is schrodinger's ccat
Either Vivi folds like Vox succing his own cock to the Clique or Selen is menhera. Listening to her stream right now for the past 6 hours I think I know what I subscribe to. Free Hong Kong pussy for me

>>69219624
>Livers' PL are monitored by management/the clique who have been handing graduations and throwing exlivers under the bus left and right
Yeah, a real mystery why she'd unfollow doki to cover her ass, nijisister.

>>69219441
youre a faggot with the reading comprehension of a nigger

>>69208093
there is precedent for Niji giving a foreign branch minimal oversight as bullies and compromised management run it into the ground

>>69218535
I completely agree, the conflicts of interest won't be huge because they're going to spread their "truth" to their friends everywhere. If they can't disclose their conflict of interest, there's manipulative intent to manipulate their audience to make NijisanjiEN look good again.

>>69218990
>Graduation queues known to exist
>Likely the talent that graduates in March is the one who drops the bombshell
Be on the lookout.

If anyone asks what nijisanji is, all you have to do is show them this picture. This one image encapsulates everything you need to know about nijisanji without a single word

>>69219450
>>69219565
Just so we're on the same page I got that list from some anon on a random Doki thread, so I don't even know what's on it, but it was almost instantly nuked which gives it some credibility

>>69218990
I only heard False talking about him having something for that time. Who else?

>>69219624
Vivi is too new to be involved in any clique shit and probably still on some kind of probation. Yet Doki's fans shit all over her for no reason and laughed at her losing subs. She didn't deserve that and why I no longer support Doki.

>>69219882
>muh clique

>>69219839
Its a list of every Nijisanji yab that's been documented to date. Only recently updated on the 8th

>>69219866
False is waiting on an NDA to expire for someone to spill the beans on Niji

if they try this bullshit I will sub to doki

>>69219839
they're constantly nuking that kind of rrrat everywhere, it's actually terrifying. I won't doubt that this thread might get nuked too because I'm highlighting a leaker. Watch out, they're trying to control public opinions

>>69218120
>PR is tanked further and further every time Niji or its livers opens their mouth
>these retards actually think public sentiment will turn if they once again open their fucking mouths
I am begging you if any of you retards are /here/ do not fucking do this. I am saying this because I still want to fucking care for you faggots despite everything. The best thing to do right now is let things cool down, if Riku is following up on his word then allow the changes in management to happen, and do what you can for the community you have right now.
Selen built up the reputation she had because she was trying to do good things for the company, like tournaments and shit. Even if management is full of faggots that reject your ideas at least try to do things that benefit the community. You don’t have to do anything big, start small, and focus on your own general fanbase for the mean time. If management changes do truly come then let that show through, allude to changing management maybe once or twice and people /here/ will pick up on it the way they did for Omega.

But I swear to fucking god do not do this stupid shit you are planning. You will look like even bigger back stabbing snakes than the public already believes you to be. I have been watching you faggots since Lazulight and I truly want to believe there’s at least some of you who are good.
Allow for time to settle things out and stop being impatient cunts. You idiots are making it hard enough on your fans, stop being selfish by choosing to hurt them further.

I fucking hope this is just a LARP, holy shit.

>/vt/ trust bpd women
Lmao

>>69218297
btw, Sylvie in question.

>>69219966
I know about False. I meant what other drama channels?

>>69219981
they might, look for suspicious astroturfing, it's going to be really fucked up in the next few months if they get the okay to do this.

>>69219923
Yes, the clique, but in more detail

>>69219624
Its because of Elira shadow management.

We can infer that while the Livers may be aware that talent are managing talent, they may not be aware of the clique using that position to mamipulate things to their liking, especially since it looks like in the beginning the shadow management necessary and helpful. If you trust someone that long, it'll be difficult to distrust them.

We know that not all livers are aware because Alban is trying to learn Japanese to communicate with management, he wouldn't do that if he knew he was fucking up communication monopoly and would be at risk of termination.

We can infer from the "save me pink girl" leak that Rosemi and Scarle know about the clique's misdeeds.

Scarle knowing this and NOT retweeting the blackscreen PR means that if the Elira clique told them all that "Nijisanji" ordered them to repost it, Scarle knew that it was just the Elira clique using Nijisanji's name to force the livers to retweet it.

If we look at how the other Livers were turned against Sayu, we can see that its likely Elira clique slandered her within and did the same to Doki, likely also usikg Nijisanji's name to do so.

>>69218120
I just hope Reimu graduates. I'm pissed

>An actual well-made JP translation of the Gurrat has been circulating around

What the fuck lol

>>69219624
I wouldn't trust the actions or words of anyone whose livelihood depends on being associated with that shit company. They've got to get that bag, that includes Elira, Vox, Fulgur, even Vivi.

>>69219882
>Yet Doki's fans shit all over her
You know this place has archives, right sister? You've got to try harder.

>>69220125
where

>>69220125
what

>>69220125
Thank me later, kaigainiki.

>>69220044
Let’s take a look at the Niji graveyard real quickly and then I’ll think about your post some more.

>>69220125
no fucking way

>>69220125
no fuckin way

>>69220077
Chek'd, congrrats
But Nux made a video today reacting to Charlie's video. We know he's friends with Ren Zotto's PL and friends with Sayu. Some rrat breeders pointed it out he slipped up about EN Talents having access to eachother's accounts. It corroborates with a clip of Hex Haywire discussing a similar thing

>>69218120
So this explains Daph's pathetic attempt at character assassinating Selen then hiding with her tail tucked between her legs when people started questioning her. Isn't it a little late to go after Selen, there's so many ugly secrets about Niji that everyone is openly talking about. The cats out of the bag, whatever hope that PR team is giving to Riku is pure bullshit.

>>69220083
What did Yugo say about the Selen situation? I never saw that.

>>69220178
JPbro, if you do this, I'll fucking kneel from a skyscraper.

>>69220015
I have a feeling that sleeping 4h a day just to keep the doc in a readable state along with documenting threads will do more damage to me in the long run than some janny but we'll see

>>69220125

>Everyone is mad that she got bullied
>Lets bully her harder after she said she wants to move on, it will work!

Yea... no. They don't get that their core audience relates to SelenDoki more because they were probably facing bullying themselves in the first place, meanwhile these retards want to use typical high school tactics. This will make hardcore SelenDoki fans side with her even harder.

>>69218530
>>69219866
>>69219966
At this point, you kinda have to feel a sliver of pity towards nijisanji. It's like they're facing an execution squad waiting to be shot.

but I'm on the side with a bucket of popcorn waiting for them to go down

>>69218932
>2%sanji
>money is too good

>>69220047
Kill it with fire

>>69220125
Link or it didn't happen

>>69220178
based jp bro

>>69220125
OGEY

>>69218120
Archived. I cannot promise anything but if they do this I will absolutely containment break using this to show what's happening.
I have to wonder though who's going to stick their necks out for this besides that retard whore daph though. I know a lot of the bigger influencers will stay well clear of this sort of thing purely from even the potential for backlash which will be career-ending for everyone involved if it backfires. Influencers might be opportunistic snakes but a lot of them also avoid these exact sorts of dramas for that very reason, they'll happily pop up once the battle has been won to voice support but they won't risk their lucrative careers on anything but a surefire win.

>>69218671
This sounds way too intelligent for any of the Livers to be posting but it'd be hilarious if it were Rosemi or something.

>>69220222
rentry-anon, bro, fuck. I'm so sorry. I've also been losing sleep because of these threads too ever since the beginning. I thought this shit was over but these motherfuckers are so hellbent on censoring it that I'm motivated and can't quit. I believe, I've done everything on my part. Someone else has to take over the reigns for me, I can't do this shit forever and the NDF gets paid by Steam Gift Cards around here...

>>69220125
It grows. Soon it will be the Ultimate GURRAT and then Super Ultimate GURRAT.

>>69218120
wait so considering how close kyo is with 39daph

>>69218936
They are so DESPERATE to have the last word even if it blows up on them. It's absolutely pathetic. It is unironically, high school mean girl behavior.

>>69220125
Link, I want to read the reactions.

>>69220178
i kneel

>>69220125
where is this JP translation

>>69220125
Unironically, Japs will see nothing wrong with the clique. They have the cucked mentality that you should obey your senpais even if they are raping your mom.

>>69218120
>"Surely this will prove that Selen is not being bullied"
Are they retarded? All they've ever had to do is say nothing and Selen looks like a menhera idiot because, frankly, she is one. The only reason she didn't fade into mid-low 4view obscurity is because they keep looking worse than her somehow.

>>69220260
I would feel bad for them if they just took the L but they can't. They're so vindictively petty every step of the way that I'm going to fucking fight them on it. They can't learn to quit and self-reflect that their bullying is fucking bullshit.

>>69218120
>mfw they give Selen more fuel to buttblast Niji out of seven digits instead of the 6 digit payout that was planned

>>69220265
let's be honest, anon, it's better than being a nobody-indie which is probably why they're all so scared right now.

>>69220339
I suspect it's Kyo who's going to lay the groundwork if this rrat is legitimate.

>>69220219
Found it

>>69220184
>Let’s take a look at the Niji graveyard
Yes, let's take a look hmmmm... it looks like the ex-members don't support Selen at all. Not a single Niji current or ex-member does besides Yugo and Yugo never really interacted with her before to know what she's like.

>>69220485
Especially someone like Ike who woukd have to invest in a new character and shit because he got canceled on his PL

>>69220408
That's the funny part

>>69220351
Who knows but let the leakers leak because the gurrrat has shown to scare a lot of sisters and the NDF

>>69220365
グランド・ユーニファイング・ラート

>>69220360
Funny thing is I'm not even the original rentry anon just a retard who edited it as one of the first because I get an insane amount of endorphins from seeing rrats as these evolve and spread

>>69220529
Pretty sure Doki is also collabing with him soon

>>69218120
this is good so we get to weed out the morons who are willing to sell their soul for a bit of nijisanji clout and get to blacklist them when they eventually reincarnate

>>69220309
>>69220399
https://twitter.com/huskofaghost/status/1758309754785661210?t=ltBESIb7e6KHEpBDHbVwJg&s=19

I don't think it got in the JP sisters sites yet, last time I checked they were still spamming another EN doc about how Selen is a bitch

>>69220208
and daph is close with kyo LMAO

>>69220260
I just feel bad for the innocent ones that are on there. I can't precisely name anyone since everyone has a silver of chance to be a perpetrator, but my gut says Scarle and Rosemi are safe. I know there are rosemi rrats out there, but none of her on-stream behavior really supports the rrats that she is evil.

>>69220125
>>69220178
No one is going to believe it in jp side. Petra lives in japan and is the one who goes on the niji jp programs the most before kotoka and meloco came around. She also hosts stuff sometimes. Elira never gets those opportunities. Petra is also much more fluent than Elira in japanese.

>>69220621
Pretty sure she shilled Iluna when their wave premiered

>>69218120
>couldn't fool the general public
>time to fool all her friends behind her back in the indie scene to stop her growth
If this is true they really are villians. Its like once one kdrama plotline ends they go for another.

>>69220547
Yes, the graveyard definitely ends at just the EN organs, and no one else.

>>69220547
Sayu also had a comment of support

I feel like we started with Ace Attorney, then moved into Deus Ex territory when the GURRAT started, and now we've entered E.Y.E. What the fuck is happening.

>>69220360
You are doing god’s work, anon. The truth shall set us free

>>69220529
This fucking dyke, I have respect for him unlike the clique

>>69220047
That is a man wearing a wig and makeup

>>69220453
kek fucking imagine
>guys just refund me for the MV
NO FUCK YOU BITCH
>ok guys now my lawyer is saying 200k is lowest we can go
NO! ELIRA, I CHOOSE YOU!
>ok guys this is getting ridiculous

>>69218120
Doki is officially the Clarkson of vtubing

>>69220668
Yes because she just wanted to leech from the situation. She also never really interacted with Selen before. I bet she's seething that Doki ignored her now though.

>>69220529
If that hadn't been posted on Feb 05th it'd be a little confusing.

>>69220408
You'd think after over 20 years of the Streisand effect being a huge phenomenon on the internet, they would fucking learn to let sleeping dogs lie and play the patient game

>>69220666
I remember Himemori Luna
I remember Gundou
I remember ID

>>69220599
may our collective autism grow this God rrrrrat

>>69220112
I can't believe I ever watched these monsters. I hope they all get invited to japan and riku personally rapes each and every one of them. As a joke, of course!

>>69220670
It's about to turn into some MGS shit if even a sliver of the embezzlement rrat is true

>>69220718
>d-doesn't count!

>>69220548
but he does have that luxium money, it wouldn't even make a dent in his account if he kept his integrity and went for a new top tier model

>>69220112
>There was an attempt
is an old as fuck meme so I'm discounting this for now

>>69220710
At this rate, by the end of Q2 Riku is going to lose his spot to Doki.

>>69220618
It's real

>>69219882
>Yet Doki's fans shit all over her for no reason and laughed at her losing subs.
Sister just can stop being a lying subhuman, kek

>>69220724
They also retweeted Doki's statement after the emergency termination was published

>>69220755

>>69220677
She's scheduled to be Doki's first ex-Niji collab partner tomorrow, too. Good guy.

>>69220616
Exactly, you guys need to watch out for the snakes who are willing to support backstabbers and twist the narrative

JPnijikeks refers to Selen as kingyozaka2.0 and talks about her as if she is an evil woman.
They are in a similar situation as they are both being fabricated and rubbed up against each other.

>>69220624
I'd clear Fulgur and Alban too.
Fulgur for risking punishment by confirming Scarle is okay on PL

Alban for trying to speedrun learning Japanese to talk to management, he wouldn't do that if he knew it painted a target on his back

>>69220710
>Tazumi handing over the keys to his yacht
>Doki: I just wanted to play Apex

>>69218120
>39daph is just the first step of phase 3 of NijiEN's character assassination campaign
>Kyo isn't clean like we thought and is actually part of that campaign
Crazy, but sadly not beyond belief

>>69220755
Turns out Enna was never on Nijisanji's side. Nor was she on Selen's. The entire time she's been a triple agent for Phase Connect to destroy Niji from the inside.

>>69220547
Yugo did collab with her and imo their collab was pretty good and probably less cringe then her ones with noctyx to me

>>69218120
Reminder that Kyo is a two-faced, hypocritical backstabber, who would sooner throw their colleague under the bus, for a momentary high of an ego boost from social media patting him on the back. He did this bullshit while Zaion was being doxxed and threatened by a twitter hate mob.

>>69220806
Oh right we haven't even dealt with this dude's nda and fan signature issues kek

>>69220618
nice

reminder that meme magic was invoked on the original instance of the rrat
its far beyond our control now

>>69220038
It's vietual Gom Jabbar. I'm pretty neutral on this topic because I only watch HoloJP and indies but from my view the "truth" could go either way. Doki has the upper hand currently with the public opinion on her side because they're blinded by outrage. Elira and the rest are basically being held to the fire to see if anyone will squeal in pain as a sign of guilt, comparable a virtual witch hunt. Any signs of abnormality will be taken as some admission of weakness and therefore guilt even if it is in in reaction to unjust persecution. If they truly believe they're in the right and did nothing wrong the best thing they can do is just shutup, stay quiet, and rebuild their branch's reputation. Content is king and despite the rrat online harassmentis still condemned. If Doki really is a menhera she'll implode down the line from her own actions. They just have to outlast her and any other rrats. But if they're actual bullies then god help them because no one else will.

>>69220815
The Grand Unifying Rrat will end this yab, one way or another

>>69220806
Luca Ocelot... I kneel

>>69220618

>>69220618
Thank you anon

>>69220655
I believe this motivation, they want to destroy her like how they did it with Sayu. Hell, maybe this is the same playbook that they did to Sayu!!!

>>69220875
They won't believe in your retarded easily debunked bullshit because they don't have SEAnigger IQs.

>>69220083
>Krisis sunk by one of the worst tweets of all time
I'm actually curious, what was the tweet?

>>69220919
>Easily debunked
Then debunk it.

>>69220919

>>69220815
JPcucks know nothing about the intricacies of the EN branch. That's why they defend them so hard. Japanese dogs should stay in their lane.

>>69220914
Even then Sayu is gaining a fresh rebound from how her experience is gaining a second look thanks to the Selen yab

>>69220919

>>69220919

>>69220919
Okay, go ahead and dispel this illusion, then.

>>69220734
Their egos are so fucking massive that it competes with the god rrat at this point

>>69220799
Well then there is no confusion or doubt at all. I can't imagine how the sisters deal with the cognitive dissonance of having to try to Other Yugo.

>>69220867
It even started working its grim magic on the last /rrat/ before the nukes

>>69220919
All you nijisisters have as rebuttal is "Doki bpd!!!!" Even normies don't agree with you. You LOST.

>>69220969
Japs know as much about Selen as westerners know about Kingyo which is fuck all lol

>>69220919
Then you should be able to debunk it in a reasonable neutral manner.

>>69220919
It's not nice to talk about your people like that, Millie

>>69220868
The outrage is a result of NijiEN's own statements, they lost the public the moment they put out that termination notice, then they dug themselves deeper with the video on Elira's channel. If they weren't bullies before, they've shown that they are bullies now.

>>69220919
>debunk
Ok, I'm listening

>>69218120
They can't be this stupid...do they not realize that the worst they can say is that she embellished the harassment? No one cares about that at this point. Selen already admitted to struggling with mental illness when she wrote the document and that it was never intended for public view.

Their evidence will just look like they are bullying her even more. It's just the black screen stream all over again. They still don't realize why that backfired...

>>69220178
based ass motherfucker

>>69218120
They already dipped their toes in and tried to smear her with Elira's video and it backfired so hard that I don't think they're willing to try again unless they have some vile dirt on Selen with the receipts to back it up. The drama is so big at this point that Finana's stories about gaslighting won't work this time.

>>69220850
He is not to be trusted

>>69218120
This is anti-intellectual. I would believe ex-Livers over anonymous 4chan larpers 100 times out of 100. They actually were there. This just reads like an excuse to dismiss future evidence without consideration and is Q tier conspiracy thinking

>>69220047
is that a fucking dude? she has more oil and grease on her face than my car

>>69218120
Fuck off schizo. Everyone is siding with Doki. Get some help.

>>69220734
Without using a search engine; tell me what Streisand wanted censored.
You dont know do you?
Really adds nothing, just a mindfart i just had.

>>69220047
Every Kronii anti is Sylvie. This is the irrefutable proof.

>>69221083
im amazed you had to question it

>>69221102
A celebrity had a secret home in the coast.
What do I win?

>>69220083
What was the tweet

>>69220208
Daph unironically alienated several other Asian streamers because of her personality being 90% "fuck white people" and the other 10% being "hehe im quirky hot girl" with nothing else to show for it.

>>69220859
People keep taking this the wrong way. Not so much in that Luca is scum (because he is) but it is a showcase of lack of management. The stuff his wife was doing was all stuff management should've been doing. Because it is stuff management does in other agencies (sign things, prepare hand written documents with nice calligraphy, prepare materials so streams are easier, etc.)

>>69221102
I've read the articles so this does not work on me, she wanted her house censored, which was some beachfront property in California

>>69220125
Good.

>>69220979
She deserves it, she went through too much bullshit especially now how much we can view through the lens of the God

>>69221077
>ex-organs
So you’ll believe Luna? That’s good to know.

>>69221046
All true, unless Doki was lying about the suicide attempts. Her contacting a lawyer and building a case before any of this happened is very suspicious to me. Why not just quit? If she's that forward thinking then imo all bets are off on who is or is not telling the truth. Just have to wait and see.

>>69221102
Literally everyone knows it waas a picture of her house. Everyone knows this because of, well, the Streisand Effect.

>>69221102
I remember it from TVtropes I think

>>69220919
debunk it, fuckers, try to utilize logic that is better than reality because ALL OF YOU NDFs use retarded logic to manipulate all of the narratives

>>69221102
I only know it was a picture of Barbara Streisand's house being used in some coastal soil erosion study because a few days ago someone here mentioned the Streisand effect and I had the same thought as you.

>>69221100
>everyone can't be wrong
See you back /here/ in 3 months

>>69221077
Ha hah, i used to say things like that until all rrats are real. I now believe there is nothing too outrageous being circulated and everything can be true. Fuck, Elira may be an actual dragon for all anyone knows.

>>69221214
Doki is already pussying out from it. It was just a bluff. Nobody is scared of her now.

>>69221059
>do they not realize that the worst they can say is that she embellished the harassment?
It'll be funny when their attempt to discredit Doki ends up confirming NijiEN's statement about livers bullying other livers.

>>69221182
Daph the went through her typical asian girl fucks all the white guys phase and got pumped and dumped by too many white guys and became racist because of it. skill issue

>>69221018
At this point, the most convincing evidence in favor of the GURrat for me is the blatantly obvious astroturfing.
Reminder that 4chan is jop owned, and considering they keep nuking all the main threads leads me to believe they've had a CAD thrown at them.

>>69221214
>Why not just quit?
Graduation cue retard. And she TRIED to quit, they didn't let her. Now fuck off with your attempted disinfo and stop wasting my bandwidth.

>>69220850
Why do I have metoo flashbacks with this one

>>69221273
She never once said she wanted conflict, NDF. That was your organs.

>>69221102
I’ve looked it up in the past the want for privacy was valid the way she went about it fucked her tho most people wouldn’t have noticed if she didn’t pursue legal action

>>69220670
>Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously.
>ANYCOLOR does not condone bullying of fellow livers. But vtubers aren't real, so why should you care?
>If you were a better person, you wouldn't be here.
>If Pomu were still here, she would likely suffer from drama. So, really, she's the lucky one.
>Graduate a liver, and you are a bully. Graduate everyone, and you are a god.

SHE TURNED US INTO FUCKING KILLERS!

>>69220983
>History is written by the vistors
Thats literally a cope used by losers. History proves otherwise.

>>69220618
Doing God's work

>>69220868
I absolutely agree. Actions in this case will be far far louder than words. They need to keep their mouths shut, keep streaming, and do what they possibly can to build back trust and rapport with their fans. Doing things that positively impact their community and individual fanbases is what will get them a better reputation. It will not happen overnight. It is going to be hard and will take dedication. But it is all they fucking have and any panic solutions like what OP suggested is going to kill the branch for fucking good.

>>69221315
If she didn't she shouldn't have sent that document then.

>>69221059
>>69221070
if you see LK's leak about how they're infantile children in the discord and combine this with being blinded by outrage that they were never in the wrong, it makes a lot of sense that they'll try again one more time

>>69220618
ISRAEL

>>69221342
The one only lawyers were ever supposed to see?

>>69221193
I will evaluated her statements on their own evidence
>>69221267
it's all well and good but there's a difference between entertaining rrats and creating a gospel where there's excuses to preemptively dismiss all contradictory evidence out of hand.

>>69221342
can the ndf iq get much lower?

>>69221143
NTA but all this time i always thought it was because she was a bitch and did a karen move to a person or something. i mean i guess that's what happened but i didn't know it was because of a house on the coast

>>69221214
Yugo's graduation would've been a termination if she didn't have a lawyer.

>>69221214
the point of contacting a lawyer was for the purpose of quitting. you're gonna need a lawyer if you want to prematurely terminate a contract with cause (which is what she was doing, not building a case for a lawsuit).

>>69221273
So are you saying they were scared of her before?

>>69221342
What the fuck retarded fuckery is this? She sent an HR complaint with receipts. In what world is this wrong? Fuck these NDF faggots.

>>69221387
It's hit rock bottom.

>>69221077
explain the fucking rrrats that kept on predicting shit correctly, anon. Also, people have been confirmed to leak on /vt/. You're just a fucking sister who is trying to deflect us from the truth. It's ridiculous how much you're all trying so hard to discredit /vt/ despite us being correct so much

>69221342
If your precious livers didn't want trouble you'd think they'd have enough competent staff that aren't literal students doing their international paperwork

>>69221375
She shouldn't have gotten lawyers involved at all. Her 'attempt' was purely out of her own mental illness and she can't blame the company for it.

Imagine if some agent of chaos leaked their idiotic plotting to one of the drama channels

>>69218120
This just reads as a pre-emptive attempt to shield Doki, because she knows she is going to get fucked when the truth comes out.

>>69218120
give me TLDR please. too lazy, tired, and retarded to read.

>>69221342
>she should stay silent and let evil run rampant
disgusting voxsis

>>69221300
>contacts lawyers
>records convos
>builds case
>get legal docs ready
>suddenly commits sudoku
>fill in blanks with rrats
Wrong use of cue btw. Thanks for outing yourself as an ESL retard

>>69221342
I will bet my ass virginity that she didn't know how to read the japanese word for confidential

>>69218120
So what are we going to do about this? They've already started.

>>69221100
Going to grudge post you when this retarded puppet campaign happens in the future, just you watch, they're so petty and vindictive that they'll do it

This is straight up pathetic if true.
Also made me genuinely question the shadow management rrat again - does anycolor actually know this or is it the final attempt from shadow management before everything absolutely implodes?

If this actually happened it would be such a gamble but I still doubt they could win. This shit has already hit the mainstream and some big names covered it. People already had the "niji = bad black company" image in their mind.
If this is the dying breath from them, fuck man, that is sad. Because if they were right about things it wouldn't be THIS UGLY. Say if they were right, doki would fucking implode before them, which, doesn't seems like it is the case here as niji EN is the one looked so desperate. By no means I want to fully side with doki but if this is how niji EN replies then there is no way in hell I would trust them, it just doesn't feel right.

>>69221479
The rrats have touched the hand of god. the demons are concocting the mother of all poison apples to slay the princess

>>69221519
Who cares, just respond with Riku bending over like a slut

>>69221451
for every true rrats there are false rrats. listen to yourself, you sound like a cultist. You should update your world view when new evidence arises, not dig in further and dismiss it as lies. As of now doki's case is airtight, but if something contradicts it then that's worth considering and not writing off as manipulation tactics.

If you think Niji is going to change for the better in the future, you better look back at the correct history that has not been fabricated by keks
It's been like this since 2019, all the former fans who were so disgusted with the management left.

>>69221519
Go ahead, unlike you, I won't lose sleep even if I'm wrong.

>>69218671
Thanks Fulgur.

>>69221413
That's a rrat
>>69221426
That's a rrat too. All of this is just rrats on top of rrats, no real substance

>>69220373
>39Deph
If they're pinning their hopes on her and her little group then they're either more deluded than I thought or beyond desperate.

>>69221555
Has anyone tried reporting any of these to Anycolor directly?
In Japanese?

>>69221214
>i know everything looks super bad for niji, but what if it's all actually fake???? idk just asking questions, i guess nobody can ever know for sure, the best thing to do is to say absolutely nothing and let this all get forgotten
You actually think this is clever, don't you?

Nijisanji EN lost a lot of YouTube subs but I don't think they lost a lot of actual fans. Most the ones that have streamed since the incident have had their usual numbers.

>>69218120
Lol this is going the same route as coco and kson. You wont be able to say anything without being called a chink

>>69221458
Sisters have never held a real job confirmed. Go beg your husband for more money to SC Vox.

>>69221622
>Has anyone tried reporting any of these to Anycolor directly?
I don't understand.

>>69221458
Are you trolling with your stupidity? It is a normal practice to contract lawyers for assistance in writing HR complaints. I don't know why she got lawyers involved while dealing with formal complaints, jeez, a real fucking mystery here. Only BPD menheras hire lawyers to review their documents, sane people just wing it and hope it works.

>>69221647
Shut up, Zhang.

>>69221631
Not really, I just know when I smell bullshit and right now both sides stink to high hell

>>69221631
It is genuinely amazing watching social game tactics that work in normalfag social settings fall completely flat when faced with basic autism. I know autists aren't immune to manipulation, but shutting down a tactic that normally works with a simple "that does not reflect reality" is hilarious to watch.

>>69221622
God, someone tell them to finely check the financials of EN branch

>>69221458
>>69221681
least obvious nijinigger samefag

>>69221500
>records convos
Their job is literally to make recordings lmao.

>>69221683
t. chink.

>>69221382
>it's all well and good but there's a difference between entertaining rrats and creating a gospel where there's excuses to preemptively dismiss all contradictory evidence out of hand.
I fucking get that but the way they twist the narratives in the past with the termination letter(s) and shitty Elira livestream makes me think otherwise. If they come out without such vitriol towards Selen, I wouldn't mind and won't attack it. However, this feels more devious and I won't be surprised that they'll try to do something fucked

If they come out and it's just Selen being menhera, sure fine, whatever. But this feels different, this feels a lot more sinister by nature

>>69221622
god imagine being a customer service worker in anycolor who receives deepl’d schizophrenia from some foreigner and you have to choose which response template to use

>>69221500
That's not the correct timeline. She didn't lawyer up until after the first suicide attempt and that was when she collected all of her experiences into a doc. The second suicide attempt happens because people usually do attempt again after the first and she's been locked out of everything and is isolated from friends. After that her lawyer suggests they send the document to expedite niji in lettering her leave.

>>69220112
i don't like that she's in nerissa' old circle

Surely the guy leaking this has some damning screenshots held for later.

>>69221387
It's hilarious that they're probably workshopping all these dumb room temperature IQ counterarguments in their sisters discord and on the doxxsite, and still can't get any traction on this mongolian basketweaving forum where everyone is usually at each others throats.

>>69221631
>Let's forget about the real world, and imagine an alternate universe in which Nijisanji is right about everything and Doki did everything wrong, and you have to play along and humor me as if this scenario is actually real, or even plausible at this point. What now?
they've been doing this shit all day, it's their final cope. they should just talk to chatgpt if they want someone to roleplay with them.

Dokibird is actually not allowed to talk about anything that happened. She is using a loophole in the contract that lets her talk about information that is made public. This is why she only releases statements directly after theirs and why these statemenrs are limited to the topics they touched. Dokibird can't say anything if they don't say anything. This is why releasing more and more documents and statements is the dumbest move in the universe for nijisanji.

Source: Just trust me bro.

>>69221683
stop making fun of Doki

>>69221681
NTA, but it's as if she's dealing with an company who's known to fucking over their own talents, huh
So she did the smart thing for trying to get her things in order by consulting an professional, thanks for confirming that

>>69220107

>>69221214
>Wow she had a lawyer? All bets are off
This is braindead abuser behavior. You're trying to call her suspect for taking the steps to protect herself. Selen, during her time in Nijisanji, was an asset that moved hundreds of thousands of dollars. As a streamer, she's also essentially a business. It would be absolutely absurd if she didn't have a lawyer on retainer while considering the most important decision in her life.

>>69221578
See, this is the key difference between you people and the gods that constructed the GURrat.
They realize that we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle and are actively trying to piece it together, meanwhile you retards think they've got it all figured out and keep flinging shit everywhere. It's quite simple.

>>69221447
>In what world is this wrong?
In Japan that is wrong. That's why Nijisanji thought 'she's claiming a hostile work environment and bullying' was a good idea to put in the termination notice, because in Japanese corporate culture that's understood to mean that the employee in question is a troublemaker that doesn't fit in. They don't realize that in the rest of the world that's taken as a sign that something is seriously fucked in the company.
A huge amount of the trouble that Nijisanji has had and is going to keep having is from trying to fight an international PR war with a Japanese playbook.

>>69221808
I can believe it.

>>69221681
>HR complaint
Anon, they're contractors not employees. They're free to quit whenever they want, NDA and any non-compete notwithstanding.
>b-but according to Canadian law
That's post facto argumentation, they were originally signed on as contractors. If Doki believed she was a fulltime employee and that's why she lawyered up then that prettt much proves this was preplanned for months.

>>69221321
how about you fuckers just let shit go instead of holding onto such petty grudges, guess what, you fucking can't and the whole internet can tell

>>69221845
nips are socially backward in corporate culture

>>69221823
Columbbrat what did they mean by this

>>69221808
>Dokibird is actually not allowed to talk about anything that happened.
That is how legal proceedings work. Doubly so if Niji is countersuing about defamation or something.

>>69220112
Shes a bitch, but thats good dark humor.

>>69221342
ffs how I get niji money to defend them here ? Im retarted but I can come with better stuff than this

>>69221756
>If they come out and it's just Selen being menhera, sure fine, whatever.
At this point, for me anyway, it's not even about doki anymore. She could go off and do whatever. I just want NijiEN to learn that they've been utter retards, and so far they have not learned yet.

>>69221681
You don't know if it was just an "HR complaint". Why did the doc have Elira, Millie and Enna's real names and addresses in it then? Sounds like she wanted to sue people but is now trying to back off from it because her lawyer thinks she doesn't have a good case now.

>>69221843
i am literally the author of the gurrat rentry you seething faggot. the point of the gurrat was supposed to be grounded and believable, not schizo dogma.

weird that she was collecting all this information from -before- her suicide attempt, since she was locked out of all her accounts immediately after the suicide attempts. I wonder why she was keeping all this stuff if she wasn't planning to be around...

>>69221887
Do a little deduction, read a bit, but don't say it out loud

>>69221788
Again, according to her. If she lied about suicide attempt then wouldn't put it past her to fudge the truth on when she contacted lawyers. Like I said, something about her story smells like bullshit. Obviously not the whole thing but she's def covering up something.

>>69221876
>just let shit go
Fuck you, Nyanners.

>>69221887
Use your brain.

>>69221941
>Why did the doc have Elira, Millie and Enna's real names and addresses in it then?
It didn't.

>>69221869
>Anon, they're contractors not employees. They're free to quit whenever they want, NDA and any non-compete notwithstanding.

Fuck off 39daph you ignorant cunt. That's not how that works.

>>69221728
From what I've checked as an international branch they don't have to provide fiscal reports to JP HQ besides the yearly one around March. The documents also do not require more info other than project=this much money so the books might be non-existent or at least so bare bones that you can just force the clique into everything without repercussions

>>69221876
>just let me be a terrible person with no consequences
Shut the fuck up Enna.

>>69221941
>Elira, Millie and Enna's real names and addresses in it then?
No one said this.

>>69221876
stop crying

>>69221808
Yeah we saw that with zaion. She had more stuff but could only reply to what was made public

>>69221964
She was collecting that info because you are psycho fucking cunts

>>69221964
When you actually think about it, some stuff seems a bit sus. It isn't fully indicative of anything, but I think its reasonable to be a bit skeptical.

I don't care if it's real or not. I just want more chaos

>>69220618
Excellent, I'm looking forward to reading sukikirai hags seething about this.
>>69221622
I was thinking of sending it and asking please respond but I don't want to give them my email.

>>69221578
ever heard of conflicts of interest, fucking intellectual? You're in the vtuber industry with vast amount of conflicts of interest. Your basic ass intellectual counter-argument is so dumb. I'm willing to make the fucking situation grey but these motherfuckers are making it all black and white. So no, I'm not being a cultist, if anything - I'm fucking honest about what I'm trying to say and even willing to look at contradictory evidence if it makes sense and is made with good intentions. Unlike you dishonest pricks who are trying to shit up the public opinion through your disinformation campaigns online...

>>69221826
Okay, so if she had said she had a lawyer on call like Kson did that checks out. But according to her she didn't get a lawyer until after hospitalization.

>>69221699
This is another babby's first social manipulation attempt. "I'm actually in favour of one side, so what I'll say is that BOTH sides suck, and that will make bystanders think of the matter as complicated instead of black and white. Nobody will see through my clever strategy because they can't think I'm actually on Niji's side if I'm saying they're bad too, right?"
The depressing thing is that this actually works on places like Facebook.

>>69221964
>Shes never heard of a suicide note.
Holy shit sisters literally cannot make correlations.
Also she literally explained that vox knew they were recording and was just dumb.

>>69221845
Sounds convincing to me. With everything I have learned about japanese cilture, I have begun to question if japanese culture views their own media completely different from how we see it. Like, is goku seen as a bad guy for fighting against the freeza empire? Is shield hero the villain of his anime? Like, i used to assume they had the same values as us, but that is clearly not the case.

>>69222079
fuyobro, you are better than this...

>>69221869
Oh, I guess "breach of contract" just isn't a thing that exists. Good to know, thank you based legal genius.

>>69222003
Literally how it works, don't stream and get fired. Don't show up for work, get fired. That simple.

>>69222002
>>69222052
Are you really gonna play dumb and pretend you didn't watch Elira's video now?

>>69220524
It's the only one that makes sense, but he hasn't technically graduated, yet.

>>69221876
NijiEN didn't, so here we are. All they had to do was shut the fuck up.

>>69221476
motherfucker, I'm trying to warn people to be fucking skeptical of their disinformation campaign, unlike ALL OF YOU. I'm asking people to be critical of claims and you fuckers love to blindly follow for your oshi even when they do fucked up shit

>>69222107
How? Literally look at Twitter and video time stamps. Almost every new piece of info came from niji and made them look worse.

>>69218120
>They're talking to graduated livers, influencers, and twitter personalities first before releasing something against Selen
Wait, is this why that nijisister/kyo's cumdump popped up on purplefag's stream talking shit about doki?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxXBlAay7TI

What a fucking timeline we live in

The video of the management saying "thinking that if you know Vtubers abroad, that means you know Anycolor." is very amusing.

>>69220652
they played lethal company and interact on twitter alot

>>69221869
At a certain point, with the level of control and stipulations they hold over the contractors. Courts would reasonably assume she was working as an employee regardless of her title.

>This employee of ours is a temp part-timer
>But his been working 38 hours a week for twenty years?

I got a legit question, do we know what promo pomu got denied ?

>>69221214
NEET that doesn't have bills detected. Doki was out of pocket $250,000 because she had to pay for her own shit. She needed to get at least what she spent back at minimum before quitting.

Also when a lawyer becomes involved they do the speaking for you or give you the text to copy and paste after they review it. You, a normie to law SHUTS THE FUCK UP so you don't give them more shit to use against you. You can see this heavily implied in her statement. Her lawyer did it all, she asked for certain things. Go read it again NEET.

>>69222073
Ah so it was planned out ahead of time? That's kind of suspicious.

>>69222154
No, I watched the video, she didn't say anything nearly that specific.

>>69222218
Already addressed this. None of that stops her from just saying no more streams until things improve.

>>69220677
Not a Dyke, she's straight.

>>69222022
What? Then how do they produce this chart in their most recent earnings presentation which has the quarterly revenue for every quarter on the EN side since they went public despite it being Q2 of 2024? Public securities law isn't a joke, they are a public company on a stock exchange, you can't just estimate and then backtrack and change the numbers, it doesn't work like if you are reporting inflation or GDP.

>>69220178
I kneel
https://privatebin.net/?a571091ee69800e0#BvqsxoTnmUfTAbea4oz5rHiNXPoozMxchmvdziD8gznr

>>69222253
That's not a gotcha you stupid cunt

Anyone have had that have that discord or twitter screencap where she says for people to save it because it'll never be unprivated?
I want to check if she was saying it would never be because she was thinking about killing herself and that could be a reason why.

>>69222129
>jewcorp
>better than drama
absolutely not.

>>69222154
Are you really gonna play dumb and pretend the habitual liars that wrote that script didn't lie again?

>>69222221
MGS or some popular JP idol group so both could've awakened the fury of a thousand suns in Elira

>>69222201
>Isreal

>>69221974
Except there's zero evidence she lied about the suicide attempts and there's a hospital pic, medical records sent to niji, and even niji livers themselves all attesting to the suicide attempt.

>>69222115
Japanese culture has a razor-sharp delineation between 'child' and 'adult' mindsets. Goku can fight against the empire and be a good guy because that's a show for kids, when you're a grown-up you have to 'face reality' and get a job in the spreadsheet mines for the corporate empire. That's why so much anime has to be set in high school or be about high schoolers, even when it makes no sense for it to be, because a Japanese audience finds it uncomfortable to see anyone over 18 still having happiness or hopes or idealism.

>>69221964
>if you receive workplace harassment just ignore it bro gathering evidence of it is suspicious

>>69222326
The discord paragraphs she made, i remember, i'll diggy diggy hole for them

>>69222221
Nothing known. There is heavy rrat speculation that it was the MGS collab that was handed to Mori instead. Also I saw passing mention of an idol group collab as well, but I've slept since then and haven't dug through Niji's socials to find such a collab yet.

Maybe it's just me, but with such retarded takes going on, it has to be a bot doing it

such enlightened takes like HR complaints can't be done if you're a contractor, and 'is Goku the bad guy', real headscratchers there

>>69222323
Why are you so mad? I thought we all loved the truth here, I'm just trying to figure it out.

>>69218530
If there really is a civil war, it will be interesting to see who distances themselves from Elira, Vox, and Ike, and while Millie, and Enna gets mentioned a lot, they have yet to make a big and direct move like Elira did to Doki/Selen. They might even distance from Elira, considering this is a ton of heat that no one would like to deal with.

>>69222179
>you fuckers love to blindly follow for your oshi even when they do fucked up shit
isn't that exactly what you're doing? You're trying to say anything negative that will come out about Selen is immediately disinformation. Don't cry about people blindly following their oshis when you're crying for people to do the same shit with your oshi.

>>69218120
>a recently graduated liver will lay the groundwork
To me this lines up with that 39Daph thing and only sounds like Kyo. He's technically not out yet but he might as well be, and lest people forget became a firm friend of Enna.
I just really hope the "good" ones recognize that it's not worth staying longterm and that their fans and support would follow them out, I'm sure they've considered the tempting possibility of being in the groundfloor of a revived, rebuilt NijiEN free from the toxicity of the past, but I cannot see that translating properly to public goodwill even if everyone involved actually did get kicked out. It's just never going to happen.
>captcha: RRHT0N
>rrat on

>>69222403
You're so painfully obvious sister.

>>69222292
>Going to HR with your concerns is a sign of mental illness!
>Just immediately go on strike instead!

Do sisters unironically not realize that selen got everything she wanted by losing her non-compete clause when she was terminated?

All she needed was to be able to make money again before she was homeless because she's awful with money and spends it all back on her fans. She just asked for it to end since then even with elira going full scorched earth and vox bringing out the list of sins (they were just basic complaining about project rejections and deadlines).

>>69221974
Tell me why your SEA brain thinks a lawyer who studied law would tell a lie to a billion dollar corporation?

>>69221182
Is Daph Enna?

>>69222401
ChatGPT could probably write better narratives than these girls, really.

>>69222253
>covering your ass is suspicious
Are you retarded?

>>69222112
>that vox knew they were recording and was just dumb.

Also, reminder that "le retard de Vox Akuma" was also the one that said he "read the document throughly" when, you know, he couldn't and shouldn't have.

>>69220047
>gendergoblin
every time

>>69221823
I see that some posts got deleted on that thread anon

>>69222453
the're both equally as stupid
but no

>>69222241
>out $250,000
Again, just believing what she says with no evidence
>muh legal papers
That might be one area they fucked up unless they can show Doki leaked it first, let's say in a DM to someone she knows. Yes, I pulled that out my ass with no proof just like half the shit Doki said. I can see it, kinda weird you guys can't.

>>69222154
Watch the video again. Elira was very vague and never said it contained her address. She said the document alluded to her location. Not stated it outright. If it contained her address why not say that? Because it didn't contain her address. Something further verified by doki.

>>69222394
>>69222326
Here you are
1/2

>>69220815
can't blame them. Their CEO suddenly starts sucking kaigainiki, and they can't understand why

They really aren't sending their best are they lmao?....

>>69221974
more like covering up the stink from the crap festering in the toilet you call an cranium

>>69222434
About finding out the truth? I'm glad.

>>69222253
The sheer number of organs in the grave right now is also pretty suspicious.

>>69218120
Now I may be some kinda schizo retard, but surely if one person has one story, and multiple individuals have another story, we should at least consider that multiple people have an element of truth.

>>69222538
2/2

>>69222436
>HR
As a contracted job there is no HR. Again, she could've just quit but chose to sudoku and lawyer up. Highly suspicious behavior imo.

>>69222405
It would be brilliant if Elira was using Enna's public bitchiness and Millie's lack of a filter as a smokescreen for her machinations.

>>69222442
Honestly this is quickly getting away from "Doki Good" to "Stop them from using Doki as a scapegoat for their actions".
It's clear they don't want to hurt Doki, but if they don't go full-frontal against her, the dirty deeds will get discovered and they will have no way of avoiding it because the timeframe to push it all on someone else, Doki, would have evaporated.
If they don't sacrifice Doki, they are fucked. Beyond any type of salvation.
We are entering MGS territory.

>>69222504
What are you schizoing about

>>69222471
Cover your ass from what?

>>69222597
Having a lawyer is not suspicous, it's called hiring someone to help you know your rights.

>>69221941
It wasn't an HR complaint. When you hire a lawyer you write them your incident report documenting everything. It can be the lawyers own form or it can be something you hand write yourself. Basically it's a statement you're putting together of what happened, where it happened, when it happened and who was involved. Think of it as a police report without the police. You give this letter to your lawyer who then uses that to draft the best course of action. The letter is often deemed confidential and only intended to be between you and your lawyer. They then take that letter and start writing formal documents and filings. In this case though because Niji had gone radio silent and were ignoring communications, her and the lawyer decided to present the letter to Niji's lawyers to basically say "these events have contributed to this situation this is why they want to end their contract". Selen and her Lawyer probably at that same time also established with Niji's lawyers which parties would be privy to the incident report. The lawyers fucked up by showing it to parties that weren't approved.

This was not an HR complaint this wasn't a lawsuit letter this was nothing more than a letter expressing to the lawyer what happend and who was involved. The lawyer hadn't even determined what action to take other than get her contract terminated.

Also no, nobody mentioned in that letter had a right to know what was in that letter or said about them unless they were formally being filed a lawsuit against them or there was a formal criminal proceeding. none of them had been served with anything

t. former corpo internal investigator who had to collect digital evidence on behalf of HR or company lawyers

>>69222573
>no rebuttal
Concession accepted.

>>69222442
Is there even a non-compete clause? Also, they aren't enforceable in leafland.

>>69222302
> This document will expire in 2 days.
SOMEONE PRESERVE IT

>>69221964
Simple: she didn't pull all (or any) of it the day of the attempt, she was collecting receipts over the course of the months leading up to the MV bullshit because it was obvious that management had it out for her for a while so why wouldn't she build a case for herself just in case it came to that?

>>69222676
Me on the left

>>69220820
fulgur COVERED NIJI'S ASS exposing his pl like a good little employee, I'm sympathetic fulgur probs needs medical and financial stability a bit more than other folks, but just I can't watch him anymore when he's still in niji without feeling weird

>>69222504
NTA, but I tend to believe talents who earned goodwill with various projects in the wider community, over an massive company that mismanaged IN, KR, and ID branches that can't handle sending NDA's with the correct names

>>69222504
>Again, just believing what she says with no evidence.

NijiEN had several tweets, two statements, and at least two videos to say "No, that's bullshit" and show receipts (like they tried with the video delay one, which you seem to have bought hook, line, and sinker).

Yet they haven't.

I wonder why?

>>69220047
>this is the nigga that says idol culture is bad

>>69222504
>I' know more about the law than a lawyer

SEA money's are brain dead

>>69220832
not weird considering he and fking bitch enna are practically dating lmao

>>69222598
If the other EN livers tried to push her out and it ended up pushing her to a suicide attempt instead, that might explain why they're panicking so hard about all of this and keep fumbling their handling of it, and why there's so much focus on trying to argue for the suicide attempt being fake.

>>69222677
No one in all of nijien streams on a 2nd channel.

>>69222677
They aren't enforceable in Japan either.

>>69222597
Ah yes, an entertainment company doesn't have Human Resources because their most important assets (The human entertainers) are on a contract basis. Totally makes sense.

If she was trying to quit her contract with cause or going to HR for her complaints. It would be retarded if she didn't have a lawyer present.

>>69222650
That still doesn't explain why the doc had real names and addresses of people in it. That was probably a suing threat.

>>69218120
Make a new bread. Sisters are looping to fill this one with dumbass arguments

>>69218120
Hex mentioned typing up tons of stuff behind the scenes. What the hell are these retards arguing about lmao.

>>69222504
Artists came out and called out niji as direct liars anon, we already knew they were embellishing the truth after Zion giant shit list. Why in the world should anyone trust what they say?

>>69220799
Who's they?

>>69222598
> NIJIEN members have asked for my graduation and some wish for me to leave the company as I bring nothing good to the brach.

NijiEN reaping what it sowed, I guess.

>>69221869
Do you know what usually happens to contractors that don't finish their contractual obligations? They pay a fiscal penalty - usually a pretty hefty one. Only an absolute retard wouldn't lawyer up. Because even in a best case scenario and everything ended amicably, paperwork will need to be signed and should be reviewed. Also a full time employee in most countries only have to give notice that they're leaving. Usually 2 weeks to a month.

And so fucking what if it was pre-planned for months? That also means the incidents she believes were happening were not a one off incident, but systemic and long running. It's not the own you think it is.

>>69222692
So she was planning on using it from the beginning? That's kinda cringe

>>69220850
he also never backed down on the jab he made about Korean plastic surgery thing even after knowing it's just as nuanced as the BLM situation in Kr

>>69222768
Does Human Resources even exist in Japan? Or is it just called "Resources"?

>>69222834
>>69220107

>>69222621
>It's clear they don't want to hurt Doki
I don't think I can believe that. Maybe, maybe if they finally fuck off and let her move on I could be convinced it was a misguided attempt by complete morons to cover their own asses. With the trend they've had going it looks a lot more like their goal is engineering a situation where she's not around to respond to the character assassination.

>>69220618
privatebin link is gonna expire in 2 days, someone make a rentry with it.

>>69222401
I don’t know why they don’t understand that even if it came out that Doki was being paranoid from BPD, attempted suicide because of BPD also, and raised complaints about her coworkers behind the scenes literally none of those things matter because the entire shitshow was brought to the public through Nijisanji in the first place whereas Doki has only ever responded to stupid shit Nijisanji has said and otherwise has been trying to move on
It doesn’t matter if she was a massive BPD bitch and was in the wrong or whatever, Nijisanji was the one to drag all the dirty laundry to the public eye and is the one to continue fucking doing that