/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Stop looking into things

>>69183480
Daily reminder that a LITERAL FUCKING PIECE OF FRIED CHICKEN got a model sooner than nijiENs

Not worth it.

Elira runs NijiEN
Next question?

Hopefully someday we'll get a 60 minutes tell all with a silhouette of a penguin and Peter voice

Most likely, Elira clique bullshit.
What's really crazy to me is that even Luxiem didn't get 3D yet when all financial sense would suggest they'd at least give it their favorite cash cow pets.

So maybe it was just part Elira clique influence and part wanting to copy Hololive, after that they realized it's not worth the cost and effort. Remember they canceled an entire 3D concert where Luxiem and others were gonna debut, for no apparent reason, and then lied about why.
It's almost like some higher manager just flipped his shit one day and said "fuck it, cancel the whole thing, fuck all 3D".

>>69184493
I mean the 3d shit is mostly a sign of prestige than anything else, and Niji is known to nickle and dime for everything. If anything it helps just further cement how much pull seniority has in jap companies.
I don't follow fags but are they able to dance and do the kpoop shit for the fujos? If not they figured why even bother?

>>69185311
No idea but what is known is that it was axed AFTER they all flew to Japan and recorded for it. Hence them throwing a mild shitfit on twitter. Shu actually got mindbroken so hard by this that he got depression and had to take a really long break (admitted in his members)
Ironically Pomu and Selen were the only ones damage controlling that shit and going "i-it's just delayed dont worry guise"

>>69183480
It was JP meddling and changes to sub milestone rewards. No, don't ask me for proof.

>>69185810
I still can't believe that was just a year ago.
Felt like a 2022 thing.

Couldn't fit in the tracking suit

Idk but this happening on Kyo's graduation day is still hilarious to me lol
I wonder it's overlapping it too

>>69183480
too expensive need more yachts

>>69183480
Riku said it himself, no infrastructure to support the EN branch (meaning they didn't want to spend any money).
But, as Enna said back in December, 2024 was going to be their year. Riku confirmed it that they had 3D events planned - meaning 3D debuts would have happened by this summer.
It's probably why they were all so bitchy against Selen, didn't want to ruin their rewards.

>>69186072
they debuted on the same day too, right? kek

>>69186082
>meaning 3D debuts would have happened by this summer
DYRBI?

>>69186154
Altare 7/22nd
Axel 7/23rd
Kyo 7/25th

NijiEN management are unironic antis and try to sabotage them at every opportunity as evidenced by everything they ever do.

I'll be surprised if this branch still exists this time next year

>>69185810
>Ironically Pomu and Selen were the only ones damage controlling that shit and going "i-it's just delayed dont worry guise"
Pomu had her spot as the leader of her group and also talked in members about how it did kind of fuck her up. Selen was probably just trying to save face for the company who was fucking her over.
>>69186205
I don't know how anon believes it since Colors was explicitly a 20 person AR 3D live, which would have meant everyone would've had 3D within 3~ish months. That's a completely unreasonable amount of time even for just a 6-man live so the implication here is pretty clear;

Kurosanji has had most of the models prepared for every wave up Noctyx minus Fulgur since the announcement at the start of 2023. The fact we saw literally nothing for an entire year says all you need to know.

>>69183480
>Is there any explanation as to why no other generation got their 3D models
there were a couple of nijijps last year who hinted that the ticketing system niji used would be discontinued by 2024 and that only the top earners will be given stuff like 3D going forward because of the backlog and bottleneck in their 3d office
given that multiple people in the main branch who havent gotten a 3d yet removed getting a 3d in their 2024 wishlist then they probably implemented it.
best case scenario is that the waves from Obsydia to Iluna managed to record some stuff for their 3d way back in 2022 or in 2023 when they went to japan. Krisis and TTT on the other hand is looking kind of grim

>>69186577
>20 person live
Sorry I miscounted, it would've been 18. Doesn't really change the point of holy fucking shit they had a dozen models done and we've seen zilch from anyone jesus CHRIST.

>>69183480
Clique
Of
Vtubers
In
Direction

>>69186625
Got a list of any other people? No offense but pretty much nobody expects and KR's or ID's to get anything meaningful.

>>69186205
Yes, multiple people were hinting at it at the end of 2023.
Would it be good?
Probably not.
>>69186643
Yeah, no. We were saying back in early 2023 that there's no way they have all those 3D models done.
And they probably didn't even have the Luxiem models done.

>>69183480
Management is probably stealing the money for it

>>69186818
>No offense but pretty much nobody expects and KR's or ID's to get anything meaningful.
https://youtu.be/Dp_hBaDNKns?t=1816
Nari Yang got a 3D model, it was the highlight of Nijifest (I think, haven't watched the rest of it, but the view bar says so).
No debut stream in sight though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq8kIg1iBik

>>69184493
Pomu was told the 3D concert was delayed but eventually realized it wasn't going to happen. Her crying over a once in a lifetime opportunity that management rejected was in May and likely when she made the decision to graduate. Luxiem still doesn't have 3D so either they were reducing costs or EN management was stealing everything that wasn't nailed to the floor.

Cover got a 3D for a manager before Obsydia.

>>69185810
Seeing this image makes me wonder what made Vox and Ike fall in line

>>69186082
and you can bet Selen probably wasn't going to be getting much from all of this supposed planning

>>69187247
cover got 3d for the fried chicken FBK was eating for dinner randomly that day

THERE IS NO EXCUSE there is only one explanation

Even though it would do wonders for the branch’s morale, I’m not sure if most of the talents even deserve it at this point. There’s quite a few hard working KRs that stay out of drama, meanwhile half of the EN branch doesn’t even stream like they used to, and it’s all reduced to infighting and high school drama/office politics.
There still seems to be okay people that deserve it like Maria, maybe Ren, Aia or Scarle? Other than that…

>>69187247
Maaan, I got 3D before Obsydia.

>>69187077
I know Nari got her model, but she was the exception to the rule as the only KR aside from Bora to ever pick up a significant japanese market. From what I've seen she's the one and done much like Hana was for ID.

>>69187342
Look into the Luca leaks, basically Luxiem unionized and started using their cash cow status to put pressure on management to give them more stuff. 100% they got some apology gifts to appease them for the 3D fiasco.

>>69186829
There's no way they had the models prepared but that was the implication they themselves made, and I don't believe for a second the company genuinely thought they could crunch out that many models in months if they didn't already have a head-start. Otherwise why would they even announce it that early in the year?

>>69187531
It would be a shame if someone were to record Vox bragging about it on VC...

>>69187401
Is it as dull and unexciting as this? Just EN management stealing anything not nailed to the floor and falsifying reports to JP until it blew up?

>>69186653
Clique
Of
Vtubers
Implicating
Demselves

>>69186625
While that would be very unfortunate there's a reason why every time this rrat repeated there's never a source for those hints or claims. It actually comes from a matome blog entry where 5ch was speculating why Haruka said her latest outfit would be her last one, then veered into a discussion of how few resources the company has wrt the number of livers, and then to whether or not it would be beneficial to prioritize top talents -- and this discussion was misread as if it were itself proof.

>>69185953
this branch feels way older than it is in a bad way

>>69188479
theres also aibas comments during that stream she did with gwelu about how she joked about how its going to be hard to get stuff for other livers in the future that sadly got nuked because of she and gwelu made fun of the favoritism rrats

>>69183480
they are not worth the investment

>>69186577
>Pomu had her spot as the leader of her group
*Pomu was in the clique and doing her best to help the person she was closest with Ewiwa. Pomudachis need to stop coping so hard.

I'm looking for clarification on this.

What the hell is Aster in "laying low/too new" after the Discord leaks? Why is Finana in merely just "in kahoots"? I know opinion on Rosemi has rapidly changed after the whole "save me pink girl" thing, but is it really confirmed she's part of the clique and not just going along with it so she doesn't end up on their bad side?

And why the fuck is Kotoka Torahime not here? That's another unknown quantity to me because she didn't just throw Zaion under the bus, she put rocket boosters on Zaion and had a fleet of buses drive over her and then back up and drive over her again. But... she didn't tweet out the bullshit "Message from Nijisanji" video, either. So... Consensus?

And, Petra. She seems innoculous (then again, so did Rosemi). But she's part of Zuttoღo, which is Millie/Enna/Reimu's little gang which is clique central.

>>69183480
Selen couldn't afford to pay for any more 3d models.
Would be my guess.

>>69189535
I can answer a couple of these, but not all.
>What the hell is Aster in "laying low/too new" after the Discord leaks?
Because it is a separate matter than the whole talents = management thing. Also, Luca is geting scot-free because of this retarded agent LK shit. The reason scarle went to him is because he IS part of the clique, he was acting as management-lite to solve the issue(and asked his mod/gf for help).
>Why is Finana in merely just "in kahoots"?
Zero proof she had management powers, she's been in a donward spiral for a while and e haven't really seen much favoritism thrown her way.
>Rosemi
Tried to be holo-lite, failed due to lack of opportunities, bowed down to the clique(much like Pomu btw). Smells bad but we haven't been able to pin much malice on her... yet.
>kotoka
Went straight to jp management from the get go, I believe this is a list about the management yab only. She's a bitch and deserves to be shat on, but doesn't seem to be involved with the clique. Independently awful.
>Petra
Like Rosemi, bowed down to the clique long ago, which is how she got her sluty titty remodel. Doesn't smell afaik.

>>69189535
>But... she didn't tweet out the bullshit "Message from Nijisanji" video, either.
This is my rrat:
Management didn't tell anyone to share the video, Elira is the one who asked it and convinced most of the livers to do it. Kotoka however saw the writing in the wall, and decided to stay out of it because she wants to get transferred to the JP branch ASAP.

She is a bitch, but a smart one.

>>69183480
stop trying to dig up the truth

>>69187705
They thought they could crank out 15 models when they couldn't even fix Pomu's.

>>69190282
No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zlXUSuUeo

Can someone tell me why these 3d models are so much work? I really don't get it.

>>69183480
Somehow this is all Selen's fault!

>>69189535
Aster is a sexpest, not a part of the whole management thing. The discord leaks just showed him being creepy and annoying towards the giga stacy, not being part of any of the other stuff

>>69190127
>>69190218
Thank you, rrat-senpais.

>>69183622
More human rights than NijiEN too

>>69190127
>>69190218
What's the problem with Kotoka?

>>69185810
I bet Elira was responsible for this too

>>69190678
You mean... besides her being Gyaru Judas?

Watch her throw Zaion under a fleet of buses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p008nRyAZ2g

>>69190388
I am still flabbergasted they just sat on fixing her model for so long and now it's effectively wasted.

I always laugh at that clip of gura being asked to sing this, knowing full well she's probably heard of it, and saying she's never heard of it. Stone cold no fucks given about the competition.

>>69183480
STOP NOTICING THINGS

>>69191233
On another note, is Zaion still alive?
Is she still streaming or some shit?

>>69185953
2023 went on a LONG TIME
2024 is fast by comparison.

>>69193614
holy fucking newfag
is this day 1 or day 2 for you?

>>69189327
If pomu was in the clique why did elira prevent her from getting merch? Not really something best friends would do for each other.

Face it amigx, when Pomu and Selen disavowed Millie and Enna's Secret GC stream they were iced out by the other girls. Maybe Elira isn't a gigabrain mastermind and just justifies it to herself with "well my friends want this" as enna and millie do all the malicious shit, but Elira is the enabler who created everything that lead to everything shitting the bed. It's over.

>>69193614
As sayu.

>>69185810
>always thought these guys were being bitchy and whiny
>now, after the black video, I'm justified in thinking they were bitchy and whiny
Fuck Luxiem and fuck the clique, I hope none of them get to succeed again.

Elira made it so, she embezzled most of the money.

>>69193941
Pomu was never in the cliche, hence why she left. Doesn't it sound weird that she suddenly quit?

>>69188033
Das crazy mang

>>69194123
She saw the writing on the wall and wanted it before everyone in niji EN had their reputation tarnished

>>69193931
n**** dont fall for bait

>>69184493
>Passing off free dimes
>Passing off an expansion opportunity
Elira is gotta be the worst booker on the planet

>>69186625
How is the k fairy doing? Followed her for a little bit.

This is dumbest thing to cling the clique rratt into
Lazulight is the first gen so they got their 3d first but Niji just give up on support for niji EN after that.

>>69194231
>got fucked by Elira regarding metal gear collab
>merch collabs are 9/2/2 Elira/Pomu/Finana despite Pomu mogging Elira on all metrics
>the concert
>the 3D
>one last management backstab by telling Kiara the wrong date for Pomu's graduation call ins
>"I tried to do as much as I could"
>Kiara also says she tried as hard as she could
yeah no, she got crushed by management

>>69183480
ELIRA WHERE IS THE FUCKING 3D FUNDS

>>69194475
The OG managers got into an NFT scam then Elira and probably some others got the reins of management because there was NO managers who spoke any English.

>>69183622
GOD, thank you for reminding me, this image is the funniest thing to come out of the hobby

>>69194500
management? All Elira

>>69183480
Actually this is probably not NijiEN's fault, it's probably a problem from much higher up.

>>69183480
Because Elira got her 3D then decided to funnel funds into the clique projects instead of other wave 3Ds

>>69187342
kompromat from Elira, probably.

>>69194500
That manger, Elira

>>69187342
Dragonpussy is something else, man I tell you.

>>69186072
holy based

>>69190218
Yeah, and the livers blindly trusting whatever ira tells them explains Ren and Alban shilling the pr

>>69193614
Yeah, she went back to her PL as Sayu

>>69186072
Bruh

>>69183480
https://event.nijisanji.app/EN_COLORS/en/

Covid :^)

>>69190555
you need to (gasp) PAY someone to make them. niji has some difficulties with the concept of paying people for their work.

All the money had to go into elira's pocket please understand

>>69183622
A piece of fried chicken, the second PR rep for Cover(Nodoka), and motherfucking StarsEN got their 3D before NijiEN.

>>69195691
What do you think Elira and the clique spent the money on instead

>>69194500
NijiEN only has so much wiggle room to blame their faults on this mysterious shadowy cabal known as management. Even IF the rrats are somehow false and NijiEN somehow had some Illuminati-type group of managers that sabotaged everyone and it wasn’t comprised of former livers, a lot of blame still falls on the >>69194500
EN talents. At least half of the males actively went out of their way to provoke fans of female talents, probably not even because they wanted to fuck them but because they were so desperate for any attention. And the female talents just went along with it, so there were two fanbases at NijiEN who were essentially at war since 2022 and the tensions never died down.
And even then, most of the talents are walking landmines. Last year in February the entire branch was literally unable to go a single week without stepping into controversy. And this is despite the fact that most of them only had the simple job of playing 2-4 hours of vidya a day. The fact that the branch was even able to survive up to this point was a miracle in itself.

>>69185810
>it was axed AFTER they all flew to Japan and recorded for it
Honestly surprising that didn't trigger a graduation by itself, that's such a colossal fuck up, and its not like people like Selen were happy at the time.

>>69193941
pomu the OL wagie she is avoided the workplace clique and didnt participate in office politics ever wonder why pomu never got any opportunities that elira millie and enna has gotten?

>>69196205
She definitely knew exactly what was going on and was able to not be on the gate list

>>69195030
Is Elira's stretched out cumdump of a dragonpussy really something you'd want to stick your dick in, however?

>>69196626
*Hate

>>69196770
Absolutely

>>69186625
>best case scenario is that the waves from Obsydia to Iluna managed to record some stuff for their 3d way back in 2022 or in 2023 when they went to japan.
If they're anything like the Lazulight ones then each girl's stream probably includes their wavemates throughout, which means Rosemi and Petra now would all need to be reshot from scratch.

>>69183622
>>69194633
ONE FLESH
ONE BONE
ONE TRUE RELIGION
ONE VOICE
ONE HOPE
ONE REAL DECISION

>>69184493
>for no apparent reason
It was delayed because of Millie's cancerous gc stream and then never came back because it was seen as not worthwhile.

>>69183622
Nerissa must be livid another KFP got 3D before her.

>>69183480
>Thinking that any wave but Lazulight was ever planned to get 3d
ror
rumao

>>69190555
I forget who but I remember watching a stream where the vtuber was explaining how artists and riggers would charge different rates for corpo vs indie jobs even though the work was the same, basically trying to milk corpos knowing they could afford it. Basically the artists are greedy and take on more work than they would possibly do in a timely manner and instead of doing jobs as they come in they instead prioritize whoever pays more which bogs down the work load even more.

>>69183622
>Even Hajime fucking Hime got 3D
how do you fuck it up that bad

>>69195445
Sigurd is the better Saber.
Altera is heavily overrated and has always been a worse Arturia.

>>69183622
How could cover afford to make more 3D contents than anycolor? Anycolor should have more resource and industry backing right?

>>69198977
By actually investing into their company and hiring competent people.

>>69195445
>>69198800
kek, good one

>>69187342
they're not menhera enough to risk burning their entire career to the ground to take a stand against bullshit
unironically Mysta being a little fucked up was a great thing for him

>>69198584
>Hajime has a 3D
Its like a joke that went too far and yet it still can't compare to Nijisanji

>>69198977
>Anycolor should have more resource and industry backing right?
Why pay for any of that, when you can get a yacht instead?

>>69198018
I'm not entirely sure why that stream is so hated. Was it stupid sure but I don't get the gate behind it

inadequate cost to benefit ratio

>>69183480
Elira embezzled the money allocated for 3D models

>>69197983

>>69183480