/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6898456
1. no.
2. yes.
3. yes.
4. top drawer of your endtable, left side, in a bright orange bottle with a white cap.

>>6898518
fpbp

Yes you are. Now save up some money and hire yourself a hooker instead of sending akasupas.

>hate life
>watch chuubas
>life becomes tolerable
many such cases!

>>6898518
Do I put them under my tongue anon or are they suppositories?

find Jesus

>>6898612
Is this another chuba?

>>6898581
dissolve them in a cup of water for three minutes. stir lightly, drink slowly. take once daily with food.

>>6898630
You replied too slow anon, they're already up my ass.

Don't rely on Vtubers as your *only* source of happiness, because if they get sick or need to take some time off you'll be in a world of hurt. Marine says it best.

https://youtu.be/EIRcUI-arkY

I love my oshi to pieces (and she's openly codependent with her fanbase), but she's been off for two weeks now and I've been able to keep busy.

>>6898686
I've been forcing myself to stop watching streams because I've been catching myself getting too dependent. I have to remind myself that they're real people too working a job and I'm as significant to them as a car passing by their house. To be honest I'm just entering sad hours and trying to cope. Thanks for the vid tho.

>>6898671
seek medical attention immediately.

>>6898456
She isn't my only source of happiness or anything but somehow I actually fell in love with a vtuber. I honestly thought gachikoi was just an ironic meme until it happened. Overall I've embraced it and I recommend you do it too. Nothing wrong with loving something that makes you happy even if you might believe it will never be reciprocated

>>6899130
attached wrong pic. Pleasant feelings deserve a pleasant pic

>>6899130
Is this healthy though? I guess the alternative is not being in love. The only person I've only heard say that parasocial relationships are healthy is a girl on OF. Makes me worried anon.

>>6898456
Don't listen to the normies OP. Embrace the schizo and the horny. Become addicted to porn and fantasies of your oshis. Shitpost on your favorite site when you get sexually frustrated. Go insane.

>>6898456
On the contrary, I used to be a filthy suicidal NEET but exposure to my oshi inspired me to try new things and get a fucking job.

>>6898456
If paying anime girls to read your superchats and play video games makes you happy, imagine hanging out with an actual irl woman

>>6899214
I drink a lot because I genuinely enjoy it anon. I'll even smoke occasionally too. I'm not too concerned over whether it's unhealthy or not. Like those things my love for her is part of who I am. If/When it stops being a source of enjoyment for me I'll stop. I've already done it before. Until then I'll embrace it and seek to get as much enjoyment as I can with it out of my little time with this life. Besides I mostly just try to make her laugh and when she does I feel good. I see no problem with that

>>6898626
Sadly not yet... we'll have to make do with Sister Abigail for now.

>>6898456
Being lonely enough you form "not friendships" with people you pay to talk to you is not healthy, no, especially since you could form an actual relationship with some ho if you paid for dates.

>>6898456
No

>>6899859
Imagine actually paying your oshi when you can just be funnier than the rest of chat to get her attention

>>6898456
>Is relying on a vtuber stream for your only reliable source of happiness a way to proceed through life?

People meme about this but unironically most people in this world depend on alcohol, tobacco, drugs, or sex as their only source of happiness. Many others are too busy trying to make ends meet to worry about happiness in the first place. How many people _actually_ derive happiness from "healthy" sources? What even are these healtht sources?

No, it's not. But what other choice do we have...

>>6898456
yes, I can smile watching cute anime girls do stupid shit

>>6898518
You didn't answer the 5th (1st) question

>>6898456
What do you think, OP?

>>6899214
Healthy isn't a one size fits all. If your vtuber love brings only or mostly positive feelings/results, then I'd say it's "healthy". If it negatively impacts your mood quite often, then probably not. The latter is often what happens because of the lack of reciprocation though. This is why an actual, healthy relationship with a real person is almost always going to be better for you.

>>6898456
At least it is a bit healthier than waifuism, there is a bit of interaction with them, as well as a real person behind the things they say.

>>6908878
This. At least your oshi will notice your existence if you give them money or talk in chat, albeit briefly. Like >>6908795 said, healthy relationships with real people will be better for you in the long run.

>>6898456
It's not healthy, but I am healthier than I was before becoming a ghostling.

>>6898456
if the kick out of it finds you a breakthrough for the benefit of humanity or just gets your cagey wagey buttocks out of your cum-stained duvet id say its good.
if deprivation leads to gosling id say not

>>6898456
Human beings are designed to form parasocial relationships with a leader figure, and join the community gathered around that figure.
The leaders themselves are often stressed out, suffer from imposter syndrome, and self-destruct if they can't cope by imagining themselves as part of a greater community where someone else is the leader that they can form their own parasocial relationship with, like God or whatever.

>>6898456
It can be healthy if their streams inspire you to do your reps. Otherwise its comparable to watching TV or playing vidya in that it isnt really 'healthy', unless its what stops you from becoming an hero or something. In which case as seen with Coco, you do not want to rely exclusively on them for that...

VTubers are originally stage three of a 21 step psyop by the JP government to get men to like actual women again, which has now been co-opted by companies like Sony who have major links to the US military to get 4chan incels out of inceldom and start breeding again.

So it's a complicated issue. It's better than having a waifu or being a celebrity stalker, and there are genuine agents involved on this site to try and stop you from getting too schizo, advising you not to "break containment" and to "take your meds", but is it really healthy to let yourself be controlled by a huge conspiracy instead of being your true, authentic self? What does healthy really even mean in this sterile late capitalist era? I can't tell you, anon. That's for you to find out for yourself.

>>6913929
Why would the JP/US governments want 4chan incels to breed?
Aren't >we persona non grata to the corporate powers of the modern world because of >our beliefs?

I wanted to die before chubas. I don't anymore. Sounds healthy enough to me.

>But they will never love you back

How is that different from real life? People make it sound like the only thing between me and real love are vtubers, when in reality it's myself. Before vtubers I was alone and miserable, now I'm just alone. And I don't mind that.

>>6900185
Happiness is a state of mind. Try meditation.

>>6898456
All parasocial relationships are unhealthy.
Make some real friends.

>>6914531
If you mean, we stick to strictly anon than yes

>>6914884
Not during Covid times. A lot of us are waiting for the booster shots. Just cause the vaccines help, doesn't mean we're immune.

>>6913929
Sony wouldn't do anything regarding incels other than to cancel or censor them. Other japanese companies however.

>>6898456

>>6898456
>Is relying on a vtuber stream for your only reliable source of happiness a way to proceed through life?
Don't care.
>Is it supposed to be a band aid while you actual get your life together?
Don't care.
>Are we all just customers to a product?
Don't care.
>Where the fuck are my meds?
Try a fuckin' gym.

>>6915467
How insightful anon, thanks for showing how much apathy you have. Very cool.

>>6915531
>apathy
Blow it out your ass. I exercise hours every day for my oshi. I get out of bed and bust my ass for her. I don't give a shit what anybody has to say about how healthy or sustainable that is. Caring about that shit is weakness. Fix your life or don't.

>>6915581
Very cool anon, I'm sure she's very proud of you and knows you exist.

>>6915612
>bitches about another person being apathetic
>immediately displays hypocrisy
Crab mentality in action. Get your shit together.

>>6915645
>Says they don't care
>Obviously feels offended and cares a lot
Very cool anon, thank you adding to the thread.

>>6915674
This thread's been around for over 12 hours and has 50 replies. You should be down on your knees licking the toes of anyone that has the generosity to bump it.

>>6915714
Y-yes anon, please show your toes that I'm sure are ripped and strong since you workout so much for your oshi. Please let me suck them anon thank you so much.

>>6915753
All you've demonstrated to me so far is that you lack the conviction to better yourself.

>>6915827
>All you've demonstrated to me so far is that you lack the conviction to better yourself.
Don't care.

>>6915876
There's that hypocrisy I was talking about. I've got jogging to do. You have fun doing...whatever it is you think you're doing.

>>6898456
1. of course
2. what more do you need when you find your oshi?
3. no, it's quite real. your oshi loves and cares about you just as much as you do her
4. below stream chat, next to the emoji icon. recommended dosage is an akasupa once a day

>>6898686
Us Omaruza gotta stick together. Using your oshi to motivate you for your reps (language, drawing, fit, other hobbys) is one of the healthy ways to channel our energy to improving ourselves. The reasons for bettering ourselves don't matter in the long run, because at the end of it, we're still bettering ourselves. it's the stepping stone to a better life. Just don't chain yourself and allow yourself to stagnate
polka songs get me through the day, God I love her voice and personality

>>6898456
1. No. External factors are never a reliable source of happiness anon. Only internal source(i.e: yourself) are a reliable source of happiness, because you can control yourself.
2. yes
3. Yes. Vtubers don't give a shit about you as an individual. They gives a shit about you as a part of a collective. It's highly unlikely that she'll ever know you are a person beyond a username on her computer screen.
4. /fit/

>>6898671
Get someone to suck them out

3. It's not as pleasant as you think. They don't treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item. Sometimes I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women. But unfortunately, as a chuuba fan I dont get respect.

Vtubers encouraged me to start dating again. I had given up hope for ever feeling a deep personal connection to a women. Vtubers proved to me that there are women out there with interests and a personality appeals to me, and that I just needed to keep looking.

>>6913929
ogey

>>6898456
No, I don't think so. But lately I've been trying to figure this one out: would vtubers be as popular as they are now, if their male viewers were all gainfully employed, and satisfactorily married?

>>6898456
I don't talk to my chuuba, I don't pretend like they'd ever acknowledge me. But watching them be happy, hearing them laugh, that makes me smile. I think of subbing like some people sub to Netflix or something. There can't possibly be anything wrong with that.

>>6916609
Did Omaru ever be aware of the Joker references by now? Just thought I ask a Omaruza

>>6914531
need future nerds to pilot drones, also most of the military already believe what 4chan believes, they just hide their power level slightly better. biggest den of rapists and racists you could possibly find.

>>6918504
I think so, but she hasn't fed us with anything substantial yet. The 爆笑 cover art is kino but I think she did it to follow the main art trend instead of going full on >society
on us. hopefully we get a joker watchalong one day

>>6915123
The US Army employs plenty of incels. Problem is with a bunch of the freaks of 4chan, is you're all too caught up in superficial culture war bullshit like "cancel culture" that you don't realise that's all a theatre to keep the plebs down. Right wingers have fox news and /pol/, left wingers have tumblr and twitter, "keep politics out of entertainment" fags have vtubers.

>>6918694
Then what is everyone else? Normal people that are just living their singular lives?

>>6898456
I'm schizoid so vtubers are perfect for me, I can turn them off and on whenever I want, and it's a one way relationship so I don't have to "sacrifice" my time for their needs, only my needs need to be satisfied.

>>6899467
Sounds awful unless she's a shut in menhera and/or sperg like Gura. And how the fuck am I going to find someone like any of the chuubas I like

>>6899467
Echoing what the other Anon is saying, an "irl woman" is going to be nothing like these girls.

>>6919907
What do you like then? You seem like you got some specific tastes.

>>6920420
Common interests are a plus but animu/mango etc are the only non negotiables, I could never build a life with someone who I'd be scared to rewatch EoE with for fear of 'why is Rei naked'. For similar reasons, if she was a degen fujo/shotacon/whatever the fuck then that would lift a fear from my shoulders and be really hot desu. I draw the line at diapers however
I don't see how I could date a girl who was completely mentally a-okay, I guess it would be cool if she was mentally healthy but also not riajuu but then I just can't imagine why she'd want me
Cute laugh is a must, but there are many types of cute laugh. The EN Trinity all have cute but very different laughs. Gura's is my favorite by a long shot but the others are also great
Curiosity about the world is necessary too, I want us to be able to tell each other about cool shit we knew nothing about, kind of like the PCP lectures and yes that's a stupid comparison. Ame's animals are a very good example
Basically I would cut a finger off to date someone like Gura. She seems legit perfect

>>6919362
This is the same reason why I always prefer internet discussions over sharing my interests with real life people. Never thought about it in the context of parasocial relationships, but it may very well be part of the appeal to me.
I did think about how a lot of the larger than life personalities I enjoy in vtubers would likely be a pain in the ass to deal with in real life, so I think it's sort of tied to that. They never become overbearing because I can just not click whenever I don't feel like listening to them.

>>6898456
no, that's why I only love Ayamefriend

>>6898456
It isn't, which is why I'm going back to chat with IRL friends, but watch some vtubers occasionally

>>6921227
There a thousand guys for every one girl like that in real life and I doubt you're exceptional enough yourself to be the one she picks. Lower your standards.

Cliché answer, but "It depends".
In this case it depends on the viewer on how they handle it.

For some it's a comfort, for some a motivation to self-improve (reps).
For others it's an obsession.
Korean idol culture and now vtuber agencies like Hololive encourage it. They very intentionally forbid idols to mention they have a boyfriend, so susceptible viewers can imagine having a chance with their "available" Oshi. It's probably the worst criticism of idol culture, at least big twitch streamers and youtubers are starting to tell their audience they don't know them, they're not friends. To at least attempt to get them back in touch with reality. I respect that Marine at least said something similar at >>6898686

You can fall hopelessly in love with someone you don't really know, you don't even know what they look like. The mentally stable will be forbidden to approach someone they understandable want to get to know, the schizo's might do stalky shit. At least with celebs the wealth difference is big enough you can understand you're out of your league and not worth their attention.

>>6920310
Just to know that someone as perfect as my oshi exists in real life and yet I would never have a shot with her is a thousand times more painful than the belief that no one like that could exist. I wish I could go back to the blissful ignorance I had before. How can I settle for anything less IRL after glimsing perfection?

>>6924816
An infinitely small chance is still better than literally 0, anon. You may not find the perfect person, but if they exist, then other good people must exist too. To me, a world where wonderful people are out there is a much better world to live in than one with no wonderful people.
It's Nina, isn't it?

>>6924816
The world is big, anon. If you don't take chances and go out there to find her, she won't fall in your lap. you're asking for a handout in this cruel world where only death and despair are certain to fall on everyone. YOU gotta carve out the happiness that you desire. Are you working towards your goal, or are you sitting on a computer crying into the abyss of ones and zeros that you associate online strangers to?
Get off your ass, do your reps, and get out there. I believe in you

>>6899214
It's only unhealthy if you can't manage it, or can't manage being stable without her. If you hit the point where nothing but her makes you happy then you have a problem; if you're fairly obsessed (and not doing schizo stalker shit) but can still be stable/happy without her around then I don't think it's a problem.

It's really only a problem when it becomes like a drug, that you can't function without your fix. I see nothing wrong with Polka turning to her fans for comfort. We don't know her life or what she's going through, so if she needs that little bit of comfort to get by then so be it. It's not as if she's going to descend into madness and need it every day for the rest of her life or she can't function. It's a sometimes thing, that cycles with her emotions. People need to stop playing armchair psychologist and projecting on people.

>>6926589
Sure, but it's not like you can find a shut in girl with similar hobbies who would be interested in you by simply walking down the street. They're shut ins for a reason. I guess in glorious nippon you could stalk akihabara though.

>>6898456
talk to people in chat not the streamer
form friendships over mutual enjoyment of the entertainment
grow friendships until they escape the gravity of the streamer and generate their own
turn your asocial and unhealthy dependence on the streamer into healthy relationships with people that love to scream the n word on voice chat

this works best for slower chats tho

>>6928425
if you're in a decent sized city, I'm sure that there is some Asian/weeb store that the upper echelon of shut-ins frequent. Fuck, the barnes and noble manga section usually gets some traction.
I will admit that I got a little too much southern hospitality for the shut in's, plus a nigger/spic debuff. And broke college student perks.
>Gotta love being a good ol boy from texas
I'm not dealt a great hand, but you can't fold just yet. I can go all shia labeouf on you, but will that really help?
If you're in the dallas area, I'd smack the shit out of you. There's no excuse but your inactions as to why you can't attempt it. There's so many good spots to find em here.

>>6929165
>turn your asocial and unhealthy dependence on the streamer into healthy relationships with people that love to scream the n word on voice chat
Hey that's me!

>>6929921
based fellow n word screamer

>>6913929
PIPPA!
GET OFF OF /vt/!

>>6898456
If you are just aware its parasocial you are already gonna make it. The problem is people who either deny it or are already over the deep end like dming their oishi and thinking they have a shot with her and they have a connection or something. These guys are the ones who should seek help immediatly

>>6929972
Not sure if I'm based or not, read >>6929837
Almost called my gay black californian immigrant of a boss a faggot the other day though, nobody on the team likes him but I need money to buy chubba merch

>>6929837
Girls like that are never single for long. They're in too high of a demand.

>>6929837
I'm in a small city. Our manga section was downsized a decade ago.
>There's so many good spots to find em here.
such as?

>>6898861
>not the .gif

>>6900185
this
Everyone has their own kind of poison. Some take meth, some cut their dicks off, some go skydiving, some men lay on their bed and watch cute anime girls playing Minecraft.
As long as you don’t have some sort of physiological dependence on this source of pleasure you’ll most likely be fine. But of course, addicts don’t say they’re addicted.

>>6908795
>This is why an actual, healthy relationship with a real person is almost always going to be better for you.
I'd argue that can also be unhealthy. It comes down to how you use that energy, but ultimately you're a druggie trying to milk the feel good chemicals in your brain. Some do crazy things for that next hit.