/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Sounds plausible

>>69083762 (me)
translated using google

drama aside, why don't nips ever have self-awareness that their english actually sucks? Even cover's "english" translators are illiterate as fuck. So many management nips have an overinflated idea of what their eigo looks like

>>69083854
>1,113 yen
Huh?!

>>69084092
Japan has some of the lowest wages in the developed world

>>69083854
>working adults and those under high school age are not eligible
the fuck does that mean? do they mean like, you can't do this job as a side gig if you're working somewhere else? or do they actually not want normal adults working for them and only want university students?

>>69084066
Their government's English learning programs are behind the times and teach English in a way that suits them, rather than in a way that is actually useful internationally. This is also why the JET program is dogshit.

>>69084092
it was my thoughts too, tho this is not a full time job, so maybe its not that bad

>>69084572
university students are easier to manipulate due to them being new to such working environment

Man it's crazy how easy it is to get a job in japan.

>>69083854
1,113 yen for a student who's fluent in english, japanese, Chinese and korean

>>69084587
yeah, but in a US context our language learning is even worse, it doesn't mean we allow shit bilinguals to do actual language-oriented jobs. Even if they suck at it, I'd expect they'd still not hire eigo jouzos to do translation work, but I guess that's asking too much. God forbid a native speaker do English work.

>>69084066
My step father who used to travel a lot to Japan for work said that almost everyone he had to interact with was very bad at speaking english and he had to have someone around full time to translate.
When he had to talk to a japanese without the translator being here, they would panic and go "Aaaah that's a difficult question" or "Aaaaah so des ka?"

>>69083854
If I can speak four languages I'm not working a job that pays 1,000 yen/hour.

>>69084840
what do you expect from a country with one of the worst demographic situation in the world

>>69084092
This is above the federal US minimum wage in several states (~$7.25).

Definitely not enough to live off of, realistically, but it is a part-time job and if the company is paying their contract employees like shit then that would obviously extend to company employees too.

>>69084871
they literally think that putting a white person who does not speak japanese in the same room as a bunch of japanese kids will cause the kids to absorb eigo molecules into their bodies and over time this will magically allow them to speak english.

If you speak English you can get paid 100 yen less per hour than someone working at McD's.

>>69083854
Literally a sweatshop. Imagine speaking 3-4 languages and going to work a minimum wage job. They are delusional, the only people who will apply are pajeets.

They are paying the equivalent of $7.39 USD an hour. There's a reason they only want university students; nobody else is that desperate. This also means nobody with an actual skillset is going to apply. Pay shit, get shit. Company is rotten to the core because they won't pay for decent workers.

>>69084572
literally: if you are old enough to know this is abuse, do not apply

Riku only hires the best high school students, interns, and fangirls who work for free

>>69083762
It's not exactly a difficult job. But if waiting for perms for 2 days seems so difficult then it probably shocks you that a highschooler has more professionalism than that hambeast.

>>69084824
...isn't that kind of illegal? I guess Japan must be different but I was under the impression that you can't discriminate by age without having some sort of valid reason.

>>69083854
what's weird is for part-time jobs with only a handful of hours, it usually makes the hourly rate go way up, not even lower

>>69085311
Bro minimum wage is 14 were I’m at and I don’t need to know 2 languages

>>69083762
>>69085511
You cant make this up

>>69084092
That's the current minimum wage in Tokyo afaik.

>>69085311
not sure what your point is, literally only 1% of the US works for min wage. One percent. And sure as shit not for jobs like this

>>69083762
I see some pictures of Selen in these messages. Did they get her permission before showing them in the video?

>>69085488
McDonald's is a harder job though, as a NijiEN manager you barely even have to do anything at all. If a talent tells you to do something, you can just keep blowing them off until they give up.

>>69085558
Yeah it wouldn't be difficult because the kid isn't even doing his job

>>69083854
I like how people that defend Niji or think that Niji's issues are only EN ignore these kind of shitty job conditions.

4 languages for 1100 yen/hour on a first world country, awesome.

>>69083762
>Selen was pushed to attempt suicide by an actual high school student
kek

>>69085533
You don't become a billionaire by wasting your money

If you pay peanuts you get monkeys

>>69085311
Federal minimum wage is years behind most states minimum wages only retard states who have no Industrial growth or tourism use federal min

>>69086135
no wonder she didn't want to make this high school again keeeek

>>69085558
>It's not a difficult job
Anon, you don't even speak one language properly, they are asking for 3-4.

>>69086062
anon, you dont understand. a professor won't accept "nijisanji talent selen tatsuki was going to kill herself if i didn't sort her perms out" when you turn in your homework late

>>69085311
>>69086304
Even states that 'use the federal min' don't actually use it. Subway is bottom of the barrel wages around here and they're starting at $11.

>>69083854
Not a black company btw, liku didu nothingu wrongu gaijjin, white pigu go home!

>>69086123
>Niji's issues are only EN
Shit is rife on the JP side, livers have for years mentioned troubles with getting managers to do shit for them. ENfags are too new/EOP to know this though.

>>69086344
>3-4 languages yet also in highschool/ collage
Basically asking for a prodigy kid to waste his free time working for penuts

>>69086724
I will always remember Luna

>>69083854
>horse shit pay
>3 month contract
its like theyre allergic to standards

>>69085376
Don't forget they will kick that white person out after a few years to avoid getting too much seniority

>>69083854
This tells you they are a black company in plain black and white

>>69086724
This, even someone terminally online like me barely knows the JP Rats. All I do know is
>PL Luna got bullied out
>Gundou got fired for a baseball joke
>Lulu had a stalker problem that Niji fumbled

>>69086724
>Luna being bullied out of the company.
>Roa still not back after years of legal battles that Anycolor is losing.
>Lulu telling Nijisanji to go fuck themselves because she was about to be Roa'd herself.
>Gundo telling she makes a shitload of money now as an indie, while she got peanuts in Nijisanji.
>The multitude of talents leaving and coming back in a week as indies, meaning that the issue was the company all along.
Nijisanji is able to thrive in Japan only because many Japanese are corporate bootlickers bugs.

>>69086135
>>69086334
>High school interactions remind her too much of her former manager

>>69085623
Japan has zero sense of human rights when it comes to the workplace. Like it's legit as bad as the CCP and those fucks have anti-suicide nets outside their office windows.

Jesus Christ it really is a black company. Should call it nocolor.

>>69085311
They raised the min wage of fast food workers in california to 20/hr lol

>>69087440
kek
the cult of seniority is easily the most cancerous part of japanese work culture. i say work culture, but it's also killing them in politics, as well as being one of the many reasons why they lost world war 2 so badly.

>>69083762
>Months of work producing the cover
>Plenty of time for a manager to check for licenses and clear internal checks
>Selen sends the final version for the check 52 hours before the release
>Manager takes 37 hours to respond
>Manager says that permissions for ex-livers IP are needed 14 hours before the release
>Selen doesn't get a response
>Selen releases the MV thinking that no Nijisanji would deny a license for their own IPs, and the the livers themselves would be ok with the video
>Management blocks the video just a few minutes after the release

In the next 12 hours before her tweet something made Selen think that she wouldn't not be able to release the MV anymore.

Either some liver chose to not be part of the video anymore and she wasn't able to to fix the video for some reason (maybe money?). Or she was already thinking about having a chat with Mori and asked people to reupload it.

This Niji manager is on par with IRyS' and Kronii's old managers.

>>69088652
he had a history essay to do, please understand

>>69088652
Are Kuro and Matara following Doki? Might hint to why couldn't get the perms.

>>69088771
I thought it was math. That manager can't go beyond 2%.

>>69088441
Japs only learn lessons after severe and painful failure.

>>69084289
And some of the lowest food costs in the developed world too.

>>69083854
they're just gonna hire some pinoys and indians again with that wage rate...

>>69088940
Should've dropped a third it'd be 3% then.

>>69088652
If a Liver retracted their permission to be in the video you'd have to scrap the entire sequences they are present in and create those segments from scratch. who knows how much money in revisions that would be, and not that SElen could pay it because she was dead fucking broke before february

>>69085496
It's hazing. They'll go off to other jobs but one day they'll become middle managers themselves and carry on the cycle. Rules are rules, and the rule says you are fucked.

>>69088900
I think it was more because they've been vocal about their vastly better working conditions.

>>69088900
Kuro followed and then unfollowed, he probably got the word she was on the shit list

>>69084572
It's defacto illegal for people to work 2 jobs in Japan, I'm not joking

I remember reading some anon's speculatation that the management seemed to behave like a bunch of children who had been treating this like a personal spat.
Well, there you go.

>>69090167
Not like you'd have time for 2 anyway given Japanese work hours+Unpaid overtime drinking with your boss.

>>69083854
Hourly wage: 1,113 yen
Holy FUCK

quality assurance responsibilities = fucking BPD women hard enough that they don't have the energy to sperg out and they don't want to leave

Any takers?

>>69086135
Have you dealt with highschool students before?
They'd make me wanna kill myself too

>>69091479
Can I get Vivi?

The most based thing to do is accept the job then not show up

>>69093783
Sadly Japan doesn't believe in severance pay.

>>69093783
>implying you're even qualified

>>69086135
I've witnessed a literal 12 year old making a discord server full of grown adults seethe for months on end, and nobody knew he was 12 until five, six years later when he straight-up admitted it.

>>69094138
based

>>69083854
So pinoys and Indos are the only ones who will apply.

>>69083854
>>69083762
jezas

>>69090167
I thought that was only for people with public sector jobs?

Lmao, a jap college kid is going to game the system by running everything through ChatGPT.

They just need a pedigree that shows they know the language.

Is the whole thread not addressing that Selen posted about the video takedown after her that manager told her to hold off?

>>69083854
>Native English/Japanese skill
>Fluent Chinese or Korean skill
>1113 yen per hour
It's quite low even from Japanese standard.

>>69088652
>Management blocks the video just a few minutes after the release

This is the real fucking joke.
Response time for greenlighting your video: 2+ days
Response time for taking down your video: 2 minutes

TWO HECKIN DAYERINOS
Did she even try to follow up before sharting her video online?

>>69095582
They would not do it again right?

>>69083854
>minimum wage part-time employee to curate your content
>working adults are not eligible, only college students
Glad to see Tazumi learned nothing.

>>69083854
that's less than US minimum wage

>>69097848
At this point their torturing their talents more than they're harming Doki. Imagine this being your employer.

>>69083762
Yes, Japanese people were making fun of this last week when it became clear there was serious miscommunication between the talents and management. It's clear now no one there really knows English and that they made so much profit by cutting costs in the most ridiculous ways possible.

>>69084092
Anon living in Japan here: Most places had a 1100 until mid last year, now it's mostly 1200, even I working a part time at a basic chain restaurant get 1350 currently, so 1113 is BAD

I have an excuse to post this?

>>69100439
I knew animators got paid peanuts, but I didn't realize that everyone up to and including the executive producer was getting fucked.

>>69083854
>part-time job
>working adults and those under high school age are not eligible
that explains a lot lmao

>>69100439
9400? how is that possible

>>69100439
How much is a loaf of bread in Japan in USD?

>>69100439
Which year is that? 2014?

>>69094888
pagpag eater maybe but Indogs? after the Niji ID debacle I doubt they want to deal with kurosanji again.
their competitor on otherhand is just so much better

>>69101386
They have to compete with Korea/Chinese sweatshops, also even that low is doable but its like an average working poor in America level of precarious.

>>69101607
Apparently it's $1.36. Comparable to here, so now I can say: Wow, that's fucked.

>>69100439
>I make 6x the amount of a series director
This is why you need immigration to bolster demand

>>69102017
Eh, more immigration won't really help Japan, much of their jobs rely on arbitrary autarky and cottage businesses local to the country, the demographics and prices will eventually self correct when enough olds die.

>>69083854

>>69102169
They do need more able body foreign men for elderly care so the children aren't shackled to their asinine honor system and never leave home because they have to care for their aging parents.

>>69083854
Such genius of incompentence

>>69086304
Federal minimum was always a meme. $200,000 can get you a decent house in a suburb just outside Billings, Montana and $2,000,000 could get you the same house the same distance from the city center of San Francisco, California. The dollar simply has different values in these two regions, and wages should be proportionally different.

>>69083854
They can't post this and deny they aren't black company

>>69084572
They become more abusive when you got the job

>>69095874
Translating into JP, CN, and KR is incredibly difficult for ML, even with billions of lines of training data for the LLM.

It has to do with their writing system and conditional syntax, it breaks the tokenized tournament-selection algos.

>>69102507
I wonder what they plan to pay their new Canadian manager (nothing in the job listing) who is clearly going to be overworked and paid peanuts. The cost of living in Canada is fucked.

>>69103051
Syntax is easy though. Context is hard.

>>69102017
I'd rather make $10k a year than have a single foreigner in my nation. A small price to pay.

>>69085879
I used to work for minimum wage, but if you factor in how much I stole from that place you could consider me the CFO.

>>69086344
There was nothing wrong with the English in that post, retard.

>>69103395
Japan has been opening the gates for awhile now, I suspect by 2050 Tokyo would be as Japanese as London is English.

>>69085558
She got perms a full year in advance you fucking idiot.

>>69100439
>Cg trash fags are paid more than an animator
WTF HOW?!? This actually makes me angry.

>>69102455
Remind them they have a duty to their country to walk into the mountains to fucking die like their ancestors did.

>>69084092
It's a high school part time job, what did you expect?

>>69109386
More when they want me to know 2-3 languages

>>69094138
I know of this mesugaki luring ojisans from several discord servers into buying premium currency on free games, full games, and even consoles since at least 5 years ago.
She's now a vtuber getting SCs from ojisans.
She's not of legal age yet.