/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

If Pomu is fairy I love her
If Pomu is OL I love her
If Pomu is ghost I love her
I love Pomu

Thinking about an idol themed marriage with this nerd

>>69050437
How much do you think it would cost to get Yumemi Nemu to perform at out wedding?
Famous hollywood actors and musicians do that stuff all the time so she has to have a price.

>>69048968

Drama should be back to dying down again if nobody does anything stupid.

>>69050873
Honestly I think Pomu being a really being super into idols would help a lot into making something like this possible. I doubt it would be so crazy expensive that only a milionaire would be able to afford.

>>69051072
Time to point more fingers and accuse people of even more shit, you say? We can definitely do that!

>>69051072
>Drama should be back to dying down again if nobody does anything stupid.
This is NijiEN we're talking about, don't underestimate their ability to make a bad situation worse.

>>69051072
>if nobody does anything stupid.
Just one more statement bro, just one more and everything will be over but for real

>People are still drawing valentine Pomus
Nice

>>69052326
Was valentines day yesterday or today? I'm single so I wouldn't know...

>>69052532
Today I think? I am married to the Pomu tulpa in my head so I wouldn't know

>>69051072
>I was ready to move on
She made that quite clear from the start. This has been known and nobody should have done anything more.
>The document mentioned was at first made to document my thoughts and history with evidence so that my lawyer can see the general picture of what was going on
Basic sentiment that should have been clear to Nijisanji/Anycolour
>have communication that the document as it was written wasn’t going to be released anywhere, and my lawyer did so when sending the document
again, Nijisanji, why did they show it to the other fucking members?
>One of the reasons why I wanted this to be private is that the internet can be a cruel place and I knew this would happen the moment this type of notice drops
Dokihaters btfo, it was clear from the start she never wanted drama. Everything was against the company at the start until THEY revealed "hey guys, there are bullies in NijiEN" with the termination statement
>Didn't reveal that she made 2 suicide attempts to not cause even more drama
Despite this, despite Selen/Doki admitting that everything was kind of muddled and the essence of the situation is "NijiEN revealed docs that shouldn't have been revealed", I just cannot harbor any good will towards Elira right now. The fact is that she timed the 15 minute statement without prior announcement to THE EXACT MINUTE Doki had a stream of a game she wanted to stream for ages now is nothing but malicious. Besides jumping the gun since Doki never implicated her or anyone else in what was happening, Niji did and Elira still gathering everyone for a big slander. I'm sorry but I do not have it in my heart to look past that

lazulight?

>>69053454
Gazu

>>69051072
>Inb4 private tweets leak saying Selen should have tried to off herself again from one of the talents.

>>69052532
It's the 14th so it was yesterday in Australia and Japan (in 1 minute anyway)
Might be today for you but Pomu just celebrated it

Pomu's nerd avatar is so freaking cute. I wouldn't mind if she used it to make a vtuber model in the future.

Pomu wedding dress cosplay

>>69053871
>Somebody is squatting on Elira's old account
Some jackass has a time machine.

>>69054530
Oh nevermind, it's gone again.

>>69053974
Reminds me of pic related

>>69051072
It would be dying down if it wasn't for that stupid stream. This just makes Elira and the boys look like even bigger monsters. I don't think the general public will let this go, even if that's what doki wants.

>>69053974
Brown hair with brown eyes are a rarity when anybody can choose the way they want to look.

>>69055011
This, wouldn't be surprised if Nijisanji tried another stream or document to try character assassinating Selen again

>>69053974
I liked her better as a blonde.

>>69055152
They are prepping a document about Scarle now

Realistically what happens to Elira from here?

>>69055152
They almost have to respond again because of that stream. Vox said he would have quit in solidarity if he hadn't been told about the recordings, and now doki says it was just a test stream that was never made public. Either he was lied to and he has to follow through with his threat of quitting, or they have to double down to defend him to keep him in the company. Same goes for Elira and Ike claims about personal information and addresses which doki now says weren't in there at all. Fujos will save the boys, but I can't see a way out for Elira at this point.

>>69055356
She waits for the dramafags to get bored and starts streaming again because there was never any definitive proof of her being a bully, and even if there was, nobody's hardcore fans would believe it anyway.

>>69055356
Comes back after some time and streams. It's not just her who got silent, probably some shit still stirring internally but you said "realistically" and that means nothing will actually change, they'll just forget about it and continue cleaning house with one obligatory graduation a month while others carry on with their schedules.

>>69055705
she'll never stream again. not until everything is clear.

Wonder how long it's gonna be until someone fucks up and leaks more documents.

>>69055356
If she doesn't stream again until this situation is over it just strengthens the management rrats

>>69055453
>but I can't see a way out for Elira at this point.
Uncle Biff will provide
kek

>>69056304
She's currently on the yacht being """""re-educated"""" in proper management practices

>>69056388
hot
anyone have the elira black company art? you know the one

>>69056495
I got you senpai
https://i.imgur.com/RwZfCpx.png

The tweet about almost telling people which event she's at to introduce them to the idol world is gone.

>>69057385
Probably realized some dumbasses would take that as permission to show up and talk to her at random idol events.

>>69055356
best case scenario would be avoiding streaming till nijien disbands and starting with a new persona in a couple of months

>>69057385
See >>69057898
There's a difference between meeting people when you want to and having people ambush you.
Most proper adults realize this but a lot of people on the internet never made it past the mental age of 12..
There's a fairly decent chance that people like that would take it as an invitation to just walk up to her wherever and whenever instead of acting like a decent person.

>Liking stuff about Pomu (the idol)
Bratty hag, she knows we take mental damage from that.

>>69059228
She wants us to get really frustrated and pent up so that we jerk off to her
I see through her plans
I'll still fall for them though

I wish there were a safe way for pomu to become a tour guide for stuff like idol lives. passing by the closed door of dear stage and knowing nothing about what's inside was super intimidating

>>69055356
Well, she's dug in a pit and things won't go back to normal unless she gets out of it

>>69060067
She could try recording a video or something but it'd be too long for twitter and I think she wants to stay away from youtube content until her class ends at least.

>>69059969
>>69059228
Needs correction

>>69060067
She could take some footage and do a tour teaching stuff if she comes back to vtubing

>>69060067
Check out one of the many "walking disney" channels out there. Pomu would be absolutely amazing at a walking Akiba style vlog.

Do you guys think Pomu is considering moving to Japan? I know she wants to stay close to her mom but it seems like she has so much fun in there

>>69061914
I think that'd be good but it'd be too much of a pain for her to deal with reflections. Since she clearly still wants to hide her face that's not happening

>>69062069
She should just wear a mask, glasses and helmet

>>69062029
>she wants to stay close to her mom
?
When has she ever said this.
I feel like she might want to a bit because of her mother's back injury but given that she has enough to be able to fly back on short notice if something happens I don't think it'd be too much of a problem for her.
She's talked about the cafe plans but even ignoring that why would she be taking a full Japanese course if she didn't intend on moving to Japan for at least a year or two?
She probably plans to move there late this year or next year at some point and is going a Japanese course in Japan instead of remotely so that she can test out living there for a few months to see if it's worth it.
Given the extremely low cost of property there she could probably buy a place pretty easily too.

>>69062436
>When has she ever said this.
She said it, don't remember which stream though. Pomu even said her mom wanted her to get a house and she was thinking about it.

>>69062436
My thought is that she's taking a Japanese course in order to brush up on her Japanese for future sponsorship/collab deals with Japanese brands. Since signs are pointing to her going back to Mint and not a new persona in another corpo.

>>69049731
It’s so over… I can never see Elira as a redeemable… I trusted her and looked up to her!

>>69062960
I remember her saying that her mom had been bugging her to buy a place but I definitely don't remember her saying she wanted to stay close to her mom.

>>69062029
Honestly, I doubt it for various reasons, her family (remember her grandma problem) , her friends, her cat, she is paying an apartment in America, she has a second surgery incoming (maybe)
It's a lot of stuff, I just think she went to study in Japan to remember the japanese she forgot and because she wasnt sure the next thing to do

>>69051072
I actually believe Selen is bullshiting after reading this and opportunistically going with whatever she thinks will play best with the crowd, Anycolor coming outnin their initial statement and saying she was accusing people makes no sense unless she was threatening to go public with those claims and they were looking to get ahead of it.

I hope we get another scuffed karaoke later this week

>>69062960
Here's her talking about buying a house back in March.
https://youtu.be/znNv8LriV60?t=3569
And her saying she wants to get a house from back in June.
https://youtu.be/9HtB-cC07Os?t=5043
She definitely wants to buy a house but whether it's in Japan or America is still up in the air.

>>69064604
Soon...she sounded pretty happy in her most recent tweet and it seems like she isn't scared of having to go private anymore. I think she finally accepted that she's too popular to hide forever. I have a feeling she'll ramp up the amount of twitter spaces she does.

I really did fall love with these three.

How are you guys feeling about Elira? I don't know what to believe anymore. Though I won't believe the management rrat, that is completely retarded.

I've been saving the second half of her most recent twitter space for when my Pomium is low but I'm worried that I'm going to need to keep on doing this for the next few months

>>69065394
You really never picked up a text book neither nigga

>>69065605
Anon he's white..

>>69065466
I still love Elira. I think there's a lot of miscommunication and confusion and she's doing her best.

>>69065605
I missed an in.

I can't find anything in the archive. Did my brain make up this memory? I saw some Pomu doxx in there before she got actually doxxed. That's probably the person who did it.

>>69065466
About the situation, neutral
About her, I always liked her yeah and liked Pomu collabs with her, but honestly I always liked pufferfeesh more, I think that pair was underrated

>>69065823
Maybe you are confused with the Elira doxx, it was like 2 or less months of difference, I don't remember Pomu doxx other than the state she lives because of her mistake as mint

>>69065516
I'd be content with 2 twitter spaces a week: a zatsu (where she talks about some of the stuff she did the past week) and a scuff karaoke (I like hearing her be happy and passionate)

>>69065466
I feel like she's trying to defend her friends and didn't do anything wrong herself. I do think agreeing to have the statement on her channel when she is probably the single most distant person from Selen in Lazusydia was really stupid on her part though. No reason for her to get involed whatsoever.

>>69066027
Look for "pomu move to japan" in the archive and you will see. Looking at archive is giving my mental damage, now I also got reminded that Pomu's mom fucks dog.

>>69065466
She's very much on probation for me. I can see why she'd go mama bear if she feels her friends are being threatened (regardless of how true this is) but I personally cannot agree with it considering the context so she's going to have to behave for the foreseeable future if she doesn't want to lose me as a follower.

I know what you're planning missy...
trying to entrap her...

>>69065466
>>69060363

>>69066101
I'm just happy she hasn't told us all to fuck off. I don't want to be greedy.

>>69067067
>That one thread where a bunch of femanons got confused and then they all found out about the white women fucking dogs with peanut butter thing
Also I forgot about her applying for a job in Japan pre-niji. I think that just makes it even more likely that she's going to want to move there since the only reason she didn't was because covid hit and stopped her from going.

If you told me a year or two ago that she would end up being the fucking Judas Iscariot of vtubers, I wouldn't have believed it.

>>69067598
I'm so sorry for her fanbase, really.

>>69067598
i would have, she always reminded me of someone holding a knife right behind their back

>>69065466
It is a hard situation for sure and I am still trying to process everything. I was holding my judgment until I saw Selen's response to that video and what she said makes a lot of sense to me.
I don't think anyone is completely innocent in this whole mess but I am dissapointed with Elira, but also demanding her to never make mistakes is dumb, nobody is perfect and I really doubt she directly did anything bad to Selen. I am a bit ehhh on Millie and Enna though. I don't like judging anyone with only partial information but they're involved in drama so often that I have a hard time convincing my brain.

>>69065823
I remember seeing saving the post and forgetting about it until it actually happened. I'm sure there are a lot of grudges from that teenager era, but I think whoever it was had more stake than a bitter seagull. not interested in continuing this conversation.

>>69067510
After everything that's happened, I dunno if she would want to work for a Japanese company ever again...

>>69065466
Still behind her 100%. I think it was misguided for her to do that stream in that way, and basically take the full blow to her brand image, but this is pretty much the only major mistake she's made in her time as Elira. In this instance I'm going to assume her judgement was clouded from wanting to protect her friends and coworkers on top of the mental stress from her family and dog, but next time she needs to stop, slow down, and think things through.
Also the narratives are absolutely fucking stupid and you'd have to be mentally 10 years old to believe every single thing those larpers are saying. Management is shit, but you don't have to exaggerate this hard.

>>69067901
Sorry for bring it up but I really didn't expect to find that. Just have to say it is kinda sad someone held a grudge against her for so long even though pimo grew a lot as person.

>>69067903
She only wanted to work there because she wanted to live there anon.
If she can get in the same way a lot of other big content creators do and eventually get a citizenship I can see her moving there.

>>69067510
Assuming this whole wanting to stay close to her mom thing is just some fake memory I had. Why didn't she move there while in Nijisanji? I guess moving to another whole ass country is complicated while streaming but it would be doable.

Mani [w/ Mariu, Finana, Kotoka, Meloco, Pomu] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m98Ca4pLO-g

>>69055356
>>69065466
She'd need to do too much
>take down the video
>make another video of just herself apologizing for the controversy, and she'd have to admit that despite it not being her intention (which would be bullshit but let's humor her) she didn't intend that video to just be an attack on Selen by her and Vox with Ike as their cheerleader
>takes a break of undisclosed time, however long it takes for her to be mentally well and for this to die down
>learns to not be so stupid in the future even for the sake of friends
Mind you, this could all be undone if she is legally implicated as one of the bullies in this case. Or even if she plays the waiting game, it'll be too little too late if NijiEN actually implodes or decides to graduate/terminate some Livers and it tries to rebuild anew.
Some of you faggots deluding yourself into thinking this is nothing but a twitter mob need better cope. Elira could have very realistically fucked up her internet career for no good reason.
I cannot think of a single fucking reason why that video was uploaded, at the same time doki was going to stream neopets, and that all it did essentially was just smear her name.

NijiEN died to Pomu with Pomu's departure anyway, and while I liked Elira's voice and choice in games, I can't condone her doing something so vile and stupid. I tried to not let it get to me that at least Enna, a very close friend of her's, is scummy as fuck, but this was over the line.
Ironically enough Finana gets a bigger pass from me because of how stupid she is and how disappointing she's been through her career - the only new low I could expect from Finana is a fan groomed her into sex.
I didn't expect Elira to stoop this low. I seriously thought this was just going be a quick video about her and other livers expressing sadness over the Selen situation and ending with what Ike said. Which again, if he is sagacious enough to realize this, why make the video in the first place? My head hurts.

POMU!!!
https://youtu.be/m98Ca4pLO-g
https://youtu.be/m98Ca4pLO-g
https://youtu.be/m98Ca4pLO-g

>>69069216
lfg

>>69068612
I dunno. Same could be asked about why she still hasn't bought a house in America yet.
I'm guessing she was just saving money and that they probably didn't want to sponsor her with a work visa.
Unless you can show an example of Petra streaming over 28 hours in a week she's only there on a student one. Even Hololive refuse to sponsor their streamers which is why Kiara had to leave Japan and move back to Europe so I'm guessing it's just hard to get it for streaming companies.

>>69069251
>died to Pomu
died to me*
Too much Pomu on the brain.
Gotta sleep cya

>>69069251
>at the same time doki was going to stream neopets
I think the one potentially redeeming out for her on this is that it's been shown Niji has control over their livers' channels/socials, and it's a pre-recorded video. The timing doesn't necessarily have to be attributed purely to her, as there's reasonable doubt. But it's putting a lot of responsibility/malice on management to do so, which continues to be a murky pit of incompetence, it's just not clear to what extent they're forcing things, or what the direction is from the top down.
The tweets in support of the video also had big "But we’re concerned about the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media." energy.

>>69067940
When elira received news on the 27th that selen had survived, she was upset .

>>69069312
>Unless you can show an example of Petra streaming over 28 hours in a week she's only there on a student one. Even Hololive refuse to sponsor their streamers which is why Kiara had to leave Japan and move back to Europe so I'm guessing it's just hard to get it for streaming companies.

So Pomu wouldn't be able to live in Japan and stream huh? I was hoping for something like this since it would be lots of fun. I guess it makes sense she is not sure about her future then. Basically she has to pick between moving back to America and streaming or staying in a country that she loves and doing some other job there.

>>69069854
If she moved to Japan for some other job, she could still stream while in Japan, but I don't think she wants to try and balance work & streaming again. Especially since work would get in the way of her doing cool projects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m98Ca4pLO-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m98Ca4pLO-g

Pomu cover in 3 days

>>69070115
I guess she could stream more casually like 1 or 2 times a week but I am not sure she would want to do that like you said. Not having much Pomu in my life would be sad but I will support her no matter what she ends up choosing, I want to see this woman happy.

I wonder if Pomu misses Minecraft or she finally end up curing her addiction

Debiru

>>69070163
Wow sweet group, looking forward to this one

>>69071258
Me on the bow

>>69071969
Maria did the designs herself, kinda funny that she decided to use a pomudachi as a clothing acessory for Pomu

>>69072127
>place closest to her chest
That (ex-)doll knew what she was doing!

Burn Elira, Burn!

>>69069854
The requirements that you need to satisfy for the Permanent Resident visa application are :
• Having sufficient assets or ability to make an independent living (stable job, enough savings...) – Pomu has this
• Satisfying all the requirements to maintain the current visa status (maintaining an appropriate job in case of a work visa holder, maintaining a stable marriage in case of a spoues visa holder for example) – This one she’d require a visa for but she could potentially get an entertainer visa first to live there for up to 36 months
• 10 years of consecutive residence in Japan, which should include 5 years of residence under a work visa or those granted according to the family status (Spouse of Japanese national, Long Term Resident...) – This would be impossible on an entertainer visa but you can shorten this (discussed below)
• Currently having the longest period of stay (3 years in most cases) – Possible if she gets an entertainer visa
• Having paid taxes and contributions to the official Japanese social security system during the required period and respected the payment deadline at all times - Possible if she gets an entertainer visa
• Having submitted all the required notifications (change of employers, change of company address etc.) to the Immigration office – This is easy
• Having a guarantor (Japanese national or permanent resident visa holder) to support the application – She can ask Maddie or one of her other Japanese friends for this
• Having stayed in Japan physically for more than 6 months in total in a 12 months period prior to and during the application process – again this one is easy

The requirement of the 10 year consecutive residency is shortened in the following cases:
• Applicants who scores 70 points in this Point Calculation Table at the time of application and at all times during the most recent 3 years of residency leading up to the application. (https://www.tn-office.jp/_p/acre/16294/documents/Points_Calculation_Table.pdf))
• Applicants who scores 80 points in the said Table during the past one year of residency leading up to the application
She could probably shorten her requirement here pretty massively. If she can get at least an N2 she gets 10 points. Add 10 from her bachelor’s, 5 from staying there 3 years on an entertainer’s visa, 40 points from her income (assuming she still makes at least 100k a year), 10 for being between 30-34, and 5 from completing the training in point 12.
That’s 80 points so it’s definitely at least possible if she works hard but the question is if she’ll bother.
If she really does want to go for her dreams now then I think she'll go for it but knowing how paranoid and pessimistic she usually is idk.

>>69072586
I hope this dork doesn't give up if that's what she wants for her life. I would love to still be able to watch this nerd stream and also know she is having a fun life outside of work.

>>69073220
She could also always ask Maddie for advice since she recently registered as a freelancer and sponsors her own visa.
https://twitter.com/othatsraspberry/status/1689207695117836288

>>69073464
Her business' name is going to be S.C.A.M

>>69073587
sugar coffee and milk

>>69069216
>Mani
Holy shit! I always associated that song with Seffy. I hope Finana gets to do the bratty humming in the middle.

>>69071258
SHE LOOKS SO FUCKING BRATTY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

Thinking about lewd acts with Pomu

I feel like her ahoge enhances her brattyness for some reason. Her ahoge looks even more bratty than usual in the cover pic.

>>69074641
Lately when I watch gushing over magical girls I've been imagining Pomu as the magical girls and yeah it's great

>>69075025
It's the mix of the ahoge and thin twintails. Makes her look extra childish and extremely bratty

>>69075864
>Lately when I watch gushing over magical girls I've been imagining Pomu as the magical girls and yeah it's great
I-I thought I was the only one who did that

Should I skip work today?

>>69076496
I think you should do it

>>69076496
Go get the bag. Unless you've got some actual shit going on, it's not worth it. Underperform if you're not feeling it.

>>69065466
She chose to snake. I can't support her anymore unless she leaves Niji, admits fault for her terrible decision and possibly behavior, and apologizes to doki personally. Anything short of that isn't enough.

>>69076610
>>69076817
Angel pomie and demon pomie...

>>69076838
>She chose to snake

Cute

>>69078378
>space and dinosaurs
nina was that pomie

>>69078378
Pomies the roach is stealing our Nerd...

>>69078378
So she didn't give the moldy cookies to Matara? Sad

>>69078378
Wait is that a liver?

>>69065466
Depends on how her return is going to be. If it's business as usual and we're just picking up where we left off then I don't really care.

>>69065466
She'll always be Pomu's friend but the last few days have really soured me on her. Like even if Selen did really break a bunch of rules and deserve to be fired, that stream was entirely unnecessary, as was going around and making everyone retweet it. Just confirms my decision not to watch them anymore after Pom left.

>>69078378
When will the nerd go on dates with Doki?

>>69078378
This is really nice

luv nerd

>>69065466
I don't vilify anyone if I don't see any specific allegations. If she reincarnates I would probably follow her, because I can't see how she could bounce back within Nijisanji.
As for the whole situation, I think Doki and the three that were in the video were all telling the truth as they understand it. And the one thing that makes all statements consistent in my eyes is nijiEN management being incompetent, acting in bad faith, and pitting livers against each other.

I want chocolate from Pomu too ueeeee

>>69065466
I think she, the others in the video, and Doki were all doing what they think is right. I don't think there was any malicious intentions from anyone involved. That said, the video seemed like it did more harm than good. But in the end, we simply don't have all the information. I'll probably just forget this whole incident happened and continue to watch whoever I watch for reasons completely unrelated to this whole thing.

>>69079079
I thought the same thing but it's Kirimichan.

Thinking about putting chocolate on Pomu's pussy and eating it...

https://twitter.com/Cipher6969_/status/1757803338756981191

Pomu probably got the pizza sweats when she ate that pizza

>>69076610
This Pomie posted a sexy Pomu so I'm listening to him. I told my boss I'm sick.

>>69078378
I want Pomu to gift me stuff like this

>>69079490
disagree with this post

>>69081975
>Thinking about chocolate covered Pomussy
>See this pic
>It's not Pomu but good enough I guess
>Click it
>MASSIVE DROCKS
Liking vaginas is not easy...

>>69078378
>two small pieces of candy
>a dinosaur bookmark
>a frozen chicken breast dog toy
wtf is the nerd's problem??

>>69069655
The timing was really scummy, but even if that were true, it just paints management in a worse light, makes one wonder why the fuck these people willingly stepped up to take one on the chin for them, and still doesn't excuse the video basically being a hit piece of Doki.

Regardless of how much of an Elirafag you are, I don't think you can delude yourself into thinking releasing this video, seeing the reaction the vast majority of people had to it, seeing Elira, Ike and Vox be vilified in fucking normalfag streams from cr1tikal and the like, losing like 20k subs in a fucking day, and to top it have NijiEN release a statement that what they did was totally not illegal, is in any a smart move or any type of win.
It was pants-on-head retarded.

>>69082702
You say like you wouldn't like to get a cool ass dinossaur bookmark

>>69082188
based

If the thing really is over I'm starting to hope that maybe it won't affect livers who just stayed quiet all the much. Here's me hoping Finana is just gonna pop back like nothing happened and we're gonna have fun again.

>>69082818
Nah man retards are out for blood from anybody

>>69082496
I agree with it. NijiEN died when Pomu left.
If you want to play the friend game, Pomu is friends with both Elira and Selen. Hell, she's Selen's only friend in the company.
And Selen is friends with Mumei, and I unironically think Mumei is a better person, morally and ethically, than every single person in NijiEN at the moment, even prior to this (excluding the Poomster).

>>69082703
Yeah, the timing specifically is the only scummy part that I can possibly give a pass on just due to it being possibly not her idea/directly under her control. That certainly doesn't redeem any of what they actually said in the video, which was at best showing all three to be fucking retarded company drones with little to no moral fiber.

>>69081975
>daring to post Elira fanart in this environment
>dragon sisters art at that
Legitimately based

>>69082818
It really should have been over 10 fucking days ago, with Doki getting out to good support and NijiEN not trying to disparage her needlessly in the termination.
Just keep it vague and say sorry shit happened, but I guess that's too hard. I kinda believe Elira, but they make really hard to not think they don't have a fucking vendetta.

>>69082952
People are eventually going to get bored of this drama. Hell, they would already be bored if it wasn't for that fucking retarded ass video.

>>69083345 (me)
to think*
fuck double negatives

>>69083189
It's sad to think we're not gonna get too many lewds with these two together. Ricegnat's art with Selen and Elira fucking Pomu together were always great.

Last year was the skate stream? Something else fucked up was going on at this time last year I remember and was very thankful for pomu to stream.

>>69085848
Yeah last year was the Skate stream & NijiCon cover.
It was during the aftermath of AR Live's cancellation and a bunch of livers went to Japan for vacation, while Pomu stayed home and streamed.

Ueeeeeee I miss Pomu! Uuuuuuawaaaaaaawaawa

https://twitter.com/doppioclips/status/1757818653578531314
https://twitter.com/doppioclips/status/1757788953829408997
doppio's a cool guy

>>69086317
This is very fucking cool but this song still gives me pain after Pomu graduation, it hurts to listen to it.

>>69086317
The Pomudachi who coincidentally sang a song she likes while conveniently unmuted and then pretended to know what it was from but named the wrong franchise. I can see why he misses her

Elira needs to come out and drop the dorky nice girl act. What she needs to do is come back as a full, unrepentant mean girl, queen bee, bully bitch.

She needs to realize that you cannot get back what was lost. What's gone is gone and the past is the past. But what you can do is cultivate an entirely new fanbase of people who appreciate all the problematic and frankly evil aspects of your personality.

I don't see any other way forward for her. Take the mask off, Elira.

>>69065466
I liked Elira. What she did was vile and repugnant. I'm massively disappointed on her.

Lets imagine I'm joining NijiEN in some months, would a heel vtuber gimmick work judging by the enviroment right now?

>>69083345
Makes me wonder if management deliberately chose her, Vox, and Ike to do the video because their reactions corroborate management's narrative the best.

>>69087190
Elira needs to kick my shit in and call me her pee pee piss piss little bitch

>>69088305
maybe /here/, but realistically i don't think any future EN waves are breaking 50k after this
maybe they'll be stuck at less

anyways, man i'm sad
i wish i could nerd out with the nerd about MGS and KH, and also make fun of her for being a disgusting fujo that wrote Roxas x Axel fanfiction (i just KNOW she schlicked it furiously to Axel's contrast on how he acted in CoM, which was basically like Hisoka, and how he acts in 2 and Days)

"A message from Nijisanji EN" is the most viewed video on her channel by a longshot. I'm really worried for her future.

>>69087190
>he doesn't know
Real life isn't like the movies. The villains aren't "grrr I'm evil" in real life, there is no nice girl mask because she is a nice girl and any of her friends can tell you that. It's all relative to what your relations with her are. Be on her good side and you have nothing to fear.

Yeah it’s really obvious it’s the same guy dooming over multiple posts

>>69092045
Yeah and vtubing isn't real life.

I'm saying her old character doesn't work anymore and she needs to come up with a new one. And the way to make the best of this is to not to fight against the current but to go with the flow.

Lean into the bullying angle and start bullying NijiEN members live on stream. It would benefit both her and the people that she bullies because their fans would support them all the more after seeing how Elira treats them.

>>69092476
>her old character doesn't work anymore
Works plenty for me exactly because it's not a character.

>>69092045
>she is a nice girl and any of her friends can tell you that
No shit the clique will protect the queen bee

how come there's no anal porn of the nerd yet?

>>69093473
anal is immoral and unChristian

>>69092476
That's like saying Irys needs a new character after getting married. It's retarded

>>69093473
Because that's my wife's personal account and artists realised that it'd be wrong to lewd her like that when she's married to me.

>>69093020
Then you want her to play a villain on the basis of you not being a part of it, which is pretty stupid. Her viewers aren't a part of it and she's nice to them.

>>69093772
>>69093605
...give her Selens model

>>69093473
Waiting for a paycheck to come in. I've got some stuff being worked on for other people.
I'm waiting for a mini doujin from one artist and a lewd from another

>>69094455
That'd actually be pretty funny. I mean if she's the management she could easily just do that no questions asked, just use the assets.

Maybe I'm deluded but I still dream of unity.

>>69094805
It's no delusion. Time heals all wounds.
An example I like is with how John Romero and John Carmack (the Doom guys) had a massive falling out back in the 90s and pretty much didn't talk to each other for decades. But now over 30 years later, they've already shown up on stream together multiple times, and they're planning on working on a new project.

>>69094805
Gonna heavily depend on how fast the drama dies out and if Niji is gonna add more fuel to the fire down the line. Remember, Selen's case wasn't the only piece of dirt they have on their hands.

>>69094455
Give Selen's model to Irys? I mean I guess a married woman like her doesn't belong in an idol company but that's harsh bro

>>69094805
same

>>69095223
>Doom guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw

First time for mari to be in full motion?

>>69094805
I think outside of Sayu and Doki There still will be a genuine unity.
But Doki was never interested in unity.

Like I hate to say it but she dipped on just about every single chance that she had to do anything unity, the only time that she ever expressed any interest in doing anything unity-wise was when she could benefit from it herself. Such as the VR chat maps, the collabs that she organized and stuff like that. Which isn't necessarily a Bad thing, but she was never interested in trying to get closer to anybody else in the branch. The only person that she was interested in getting closer to I'm pretty sure she had a crush on.

>>69092045
https://youtu.be/LJ2t4jfVTiU

>>69095972
She really did seem to get along with Finana too though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2upPdJHjo
She even watched her streams sometimes.
And she got along well with Ike to the point where even he thought they were friends.
She seemed to get along really well with Rosemi too until a little under a year ago.

>>69096391
Something happened in 2023. You can also see Pomu and Selen drifting apart during that time and they barely did anything together with their themed outfits

>>69096391
That fucking title.....

>>69095972
I agree that she wasn't big on the "unity" stuff but she got along with individual members she was interested in just fine, it's just her circle wasn't all-encompassing. And that's fine, I think it's normal for livers to have like a few people in their interaction deck - considering Selen was fun with all of them. Same with the projects, the ones she did were always great.

>>69096718
If Selen was planning on complaining about Luxiem favoritism she probably tried to ask other livers to join her. There are several reasons they could have refused, from not wanting to rock the boat to not wanting to complain about friends to management.

i love da wa!!!!!

>>69096718
I think whatever it was happened around June-September based on Enna's change in how she interacted with Selen too.

>>69096718
Post AR cancellation and Zaion termination period something really got weird, it was easy to see across the entire branch.

>>69095627
I hope The Poom Guy comes back in some form

>>69097399
Me too

>>69097399
me too!!

>>69096718
Not sure if related but towards the end of 2023 and even after pomu’s graduation there have been livers that have talked about how nice it is that discord hangouts have become more lively and common nowadays. There was really something that happened in 2023 that kept a lot of people to themselves for a while.

>>69096391
The thing is though that like she would do things like this but then she would never actually respond to requests to collab or anything like that. If it was up to her she would always choose RPR, Gumi and DTTO over anybody else. At the end of the day I think that she had what you would call "workplace friendships" at least in her head, that's what they were to hurt. I do think there were some people who genuinely believed that they were friends with her including feesh who I'm not sure didn't end up taking oceanlaw a bit too seriously for her own good
As much as I hate to say it, there really isn't any unity that was ever going to be there with her and the rest of the branch

It's only been a few hours and I"m already missing the nerd...

>>69097585
Pomu submitted her graduation in July, so probably that.

>>69097740
>Zaion gaslights everybody to the point that they become suspicious of each other

>>69100282

>>69086133
Scuffed fixing this image to make sure all Doom Pomies realise theres still hope!

In (not)Pomu we trust

(ps can someone try fix this image so it likes like the original lmao)

>>69098748
>would never actually respond to requests to collab or anything like that
Nijicancelled?

>>69095972
>But Doki was never interested in unity.
That hurts me that people even suggest this. Just because she wasn't personally close doesn't make all her projects and collaborations "fake unity", jesus. Her issue is with management, not with her coworkers. I just wish they were granted happier goodbyes, what a mess.

Bullies never think they're bullies. And they fake cry when they caught, just like Elira.

Nerd woke up

>>69104241
Yeah, from a twenty year long coma

>>69104300
Not sure if you're a tourist or I just don't understand the joke.

>>69104418
I wanted to subvert the
>yeah, with me
You should be cheering for my joke, not booing me.

>>69050010
There are three Pomus inside of (You)
You love yourself

I'm starting to understand the appeal. Rikko and Ruichan are top cute.

>>69103729
I think of 2 types of bullies. There's a type of person that's often abused themselves and vents their frustrations on others.
Then there's the type that doesn't acknowledge other people's feelings. An example would be a pro player dunking on a noob in a video game. To them, they're having fun, but the other person might not see it that way. Apply this to another situation, like feeling vulnerable after another frustrating event and some people showing "concern" which is read as mockery.
It would also explain why the livers don't believe anything they did to be "bullying". It wasn't their intention.
The results are hard to argue against though, and they take no accountability if that's what's really happening. We may never know unless we see the documents (we won't).

>>69103730
I always thought that was the case,too. But if she was taking down notes of past grievances and sending them to her lawyer, those grudges could have been there for years. It seems like a lack of leadership led to them not sitting down and making each other understand what the problems were. Maybe they weren't stuff that could just have been overcome by that, but judging by the reaction of other Niji EN members, they didn't know any of the stuff until Anycolor showed them Selen's document. I just hope they can reconcile personally before outsiders make that impossible.

>>69106480
>I just hope they can reconcile personally before outsiders make that impossible.
That ship has long sailed. If they ever do, It will be only a few people 20 years down the line at best.

>>69106480
The stream definitely threw a wrench into them reconciling personally. If they hadn't done that stream and have most of EN show support for it I believe they might have been able to reconcile behind the scenes after everything died down and emotions weren't so raw.

>>69105425
There's also the reverse situation where people don't even realize they're considered bullies by others. There are people who behave a certain way but can't stomach others behaving a similar way. I have a friend who really likes racist and otherwise provocative, dirty kind of humor but as soon as you start joking the same way he becomes offended. To him everyone who even unknowingly hits his insecurities is a bully.

>>69103377
Niji cancelled was usually her idea though.

Days before 'The Stream' happened I was considering sending Feesh a streamlabs during her next member's stream asking if she had any words about Selen and what she meant to her since nobody was talking about her and I imagined Feesh would've had nice things to say

>>69107423
In this case, I'd argue both people would be bullies. Just because the "intent wasn't to bully" doesn't mean shit.
At some point there are consequences for your actions, whether you agree or not.

>>69107817
Well, now you know better. At best it would've been ignored.

>>69107885
That's the tricky part, the definition of "bullying" just varies too much depending on the context. Someone might even consider a person being too clingy bullying when it annoys them enough. Or someone might resort to being too passive-aggressive without the recipient even knowing they're pissing someone off. We're talking about women and women have no shortage of irrational reactions. As you said it's impossible to judge without seeing the documents and hearing multiple witnesses for proper context. So literally only the court case can determine a degree of truth in all of this.

>>69103730
I'd love to believe it anon but at the same time, she was recording her coworkers without their knowledge to try to get a 1-up on management and every single project that wasn't hers, she didn't show up for.
She didn't participate in the twilight watchalong, in the Lord of the rings watchalong, she frequently ghosted her coworkers and people in /haha/ often found out that during big collabs she'd be spotted playing apex with nocturnal.

Also her coworkers were drug into her lawsuit by her because she accused them of bullying her. I'd love to believe that behind the scenes she was as close as others made it seem, I remember Elira mentioning she'd texted Selen a time or two and Millie mentioning hanging out with her offline and Feesh talking about wanting to do more with her.
Enna and her collabed a fair amount of times but like I said. Doesn't seem to matter much. Her issues were with more than just management and at the end of the day, she didn't really seem to care about the thoughts or feelings of anyone but herself. They were employees. Not friends. She's never mentioned a single friend she made while in the company or even alluded to it and has mentioned instead past friends and apex friends.

There was never any unity

>>69108380
In any case it doesn't really matter.
The part that matters is Selen bringing it up to management and them doing fuck all about when it should have been a red flag and wake-up call. She probably figured that out when she talked to her therapist which is why in all her statements she exclusively talks about her problem with MANAGEMENT now instead of the bullying from the livers.
I think she might be aware herself after all this time that some of her feelings might have been misguided, but it still weighted on her enough to get her into this situation which is why she added it to her legal document.
All speculation though.

it all changed so fast...

>>69108896
Yeah, she emphasized feeling alone and on her own and knowing how negligent management is I can see it becoming personal hell where everyone seems to be against her. People speculate pretty wildly but a lot of it was no secret before, just shows how deeply fucked things are for certain people. I imagine that even if they would just get rid of that management and put someone who likes their job in its place things would improve tenfold right away and NijiEN would finally experience the wonders of communication, transparency and direction.

>>69109698
They're gonna need to hire actual experienced managers in order to unfuck this situation, but knowing Anycolor they're not going to want to pay for someone with that much experience. They're going to hire someone with no experience who's splitting their time with 2 other jobs, again!

>>69109698
>I imagine that even if they would just get rid of that management and put someone who likes their job in its place things would improve tenfold right away and NijiEN would finally experience the wonders of communication, transparency and direction.

Yeah but then Elira wouldn't get to have her power trip anymore.

Don't be drawn in by doomposters, anons. They're here to intentionally bring the mood down and argue with you. Just ignore them.

>>69109698
Too little. Too late. My oshi was such a simp for Nijisanji and she already graduated because of bullshit. Her friends are now in the crossfire of harassment and their own hubris, and I'm afraid this might follow them even after they're gone.
It's hard not to doompost, I wish everyone could move on, especially with Doki doing fine now, but I guess that's wishful thinking at this point...

>>69110296
Guess she'll have to just play silly video games and kiss girls IRL for a living.

>>69109325
This still convinces me that there weren't any bullies who were livers or are least that nobody involved in her birthday was one.
I still think it was probably just management since the only thing Doki's statement said was that bullying happened and it was only the Niji twitter that said anything about livers.

>>69110456
What'd even be doomposting at this point?
I'll say that I'm one of the ones that is extremely disappointed in what Elira did and can't find it myself to support, but that doesn't mean I want her to stay in Nijisanji EN, or sink in the yacht. Ditto Finana, but it's harder to say that in her case because of how much she needs to be tard wrangled if she is ever to find a career after NijiEN in another vtuber corpo, or as an indie.

how long until the elira slander stops

>>69110531
>It's hard not to doompost
I get you anon, it just all seems like one big disaster that they WANT to make worse. But we gotta believe in something. Sometimes you just gotta pick up the pieces and make do. I just pray that there's someone in the agency left with that kind of mindset, who would want to make things work again.

>>69111299
Probably never, which is sad. She doesn't deserve this.

I can see future nerd streams being like Onigiri’s. She’s with the roach https://www.twitch.tv/onigiri

>>69111299
Give them a fortnight or so.
You'll need to ignore them that whole time though since every response or mention of them that you give will make them go for another hour or two.

>>69111299
What slander? We know what she is.

>>69111299
On this board probably never, people here live by shitting on people. Mainstream will forget about her eventually provided she won't do/be forced to do anything self-destructive again.

>>69111443
Thanks anon, you're right

>>69111524
>I know what you are

>>69111299
Never here I don't think, will be one of those things that will brought up forever

Speaking of Doom what are the pros and cons of Eternal?
I thought the Doom 2016 was a massive slog and I could barely finish the first 2 levels but I feel like I want to play a cool game where you just run and jump and kill demons.
Sonny played some demon shooting games before right? Was it Ultrakill or something? Idk but is that better than Doom Eternal?

https://twitter.com/FinanaRyugu/status/1757953095806390651

>>69112129
Cute tsun tsun fresh.

>>69112124
>I thought the Doom 2016 was a massive slog and I could barely finish the first 2 levels but I feel like I want to play a cool game where you just run and jump and kill demons.
Literally me, and I loved Doom Eternal. I tried playing 2016 so many times but I always stopped in the second level, meawhile Eternal is one of my favorite shooters. Give it a try pomie.

>>69111299
People have been doing it for as long as she's been in Niji for one reason or another. They'll just move onto another person once the current stupid thing gets old. I think it's just here since certain people think it's only ok to be "fan" of someone once they leave Niji, so we have a lot of people larping as Pomu fans.

>>69111858

Twitter space in an hour

>>69111469
I don't think it will as long NijEN is around.
You're undermining how truly stupid of her that move was.
This situation with Selen is big, but it is ultimately a continuation of the thought that NijiEN is black company that mistreats its workers. It's going to take a lot longer than 2 weeks for this to die down. Unless she deletes the video and apologizes to Selen for its content, this will haunt her.
Every time some one graduates or is terminated, the topic of NijiEN being a black company will be brought up, and so will Selen's situation, which'll inevitably lead to this moment.

>>69112539
You already tried to fool me once. I won't fall for it again

>>69112539
Why does she always do this when I'm exhausted?

I feel like Elira didn't do anything out of malice. I feel like she did the best with what she knew to try and keep her friends safe in her mind. As much as I hate the timing of that stream I don't think she's evil or wants to hurt anyone.

>>69113126
It's nice to have dreams, Anon.

>>69113126
I don't think she's malicious at all, but she doesn't need to be. See >>69105425
Also who knows who decided the timing of the stream.

>>69113126
I think so too. I just really wish I knew the logic and reason for them as a collective doing it the way that they did with the timing and everything.

>>69113824
Panic, ignorance? Who knows. Elira has shown she cares about other people's feelings. I can't deny it was a stupid thing to do.

>>69114060
If we know she cares about other people's feelings and she deliberately chose that timing then it looks like she wanted to hurt someone's feelings by doing that.

>>69113126
That video didn't do anything other than shit on Doki. Forget the timing. What about what Elira said kept them safe? It was a terrible PR move to have talents try and damage control, you know your damage control failed when you have to damage control your own damage control hours later, and all it did was cast aspersions on Elira, Enna and Millie and Elira painted a big red target on herself for no good reason. Selen obviously didn't release a document doxxing anyone, so why wait a fucking week to say you were scared she'd dox you and her friends?
To me, the only explanation is that they recorded that statement before her termination tweet went out, in the spur of the moment, having just have read that document.
It is hard to attribute any sort of thoughtfulness or tact to this move without painting Elira either as the biggest retard in NijiEN along with Vox and Ike, or without painting her as vile and callous.

>>69113126
I said the same thing up here >>69081024
People make mistakes and not everything hurtful is done out of malice.

>>69111469
hey wait a second, that's nakadashi-bu chloe, not pomu! Appreciated though, heh

The real world isn't black and white, and every single person is complex. Don't forget there are real people behind these anime avatars.

>>69113126
Elira is just too opinionated and cares too much. Maybe she just wanted to have the last word in this whole thing. It was at least her being petty because there was no reason for this video to exist, it did no good to her or anyone involved. Malice might've not been her intention and I do believe she's not an evil mastermind some people want her to be, but she just came across as a bitter dumbass.

>>69113126
Man, I'm just disappointed with her overall. Even IF it wasn't something out of conscious malice which... I can't entirely be certain at this point, then I'm still disappointed she didn't think twice on how absolutely dogshit atrocious of a move this would be.
I'm sad but I should have seen this coming.
dragon on dragon betrayal really proves the sister status

Why are people shilling another chan in Pomu's art tag?

My tummy hurts pomies help

>>69117130
*rubs it*

>>69114593
The video only makes sense when you consider it was made for Japanese investors (and consequently curious Japanese viewers). You can't tell the investors "it's gonna be settled in a few years in court", they needed to see livers show their position in the matter and show that they have "evidence". Seems like it was at least somewhat successful because Japanese viewers aren't exactly witchhunting Elira because of it, they don't have dramatubers picking it up and so on, if they're interested in the matter this is what they'll see first.

>>69117198
thank you

>>69117256
It doesn't even have subtitles, in Japanese, neither baked in or autogenerated

>>69112539
Nah she has school today.
It'll be at 6PM at earliest

Nothing will ever appease the mob, so countering the narrative is by no means the suicide that shills want you to believe it is. Low-information dramatards will never be convinced that NijiEN isn't evil, and Twitter communists will never believe the company over the suicide woman. They exposed Doki's menhera history and provided a litmus test to identify retards who can't figure out why Maria's covers never have issues. If it really was an "instant lawsuit victory", that embarrassing backpedal on secretly recording her coworkers for years wouldn't have happened.
/NijiEN/, and by extension, this general, will never not be raided over the latest cause of the day. It's a complete waste of time trying to convince these types because most of them are culture warriors desperately in need of a real war to die in. Rubberneckers will lose interest when there's some new jangling keys somewhere else, while diehard numbermonkeys will eventually die of food poisoning and/or tropical storm.
Don't let yourself get tricked by new IP nigsters doomposting about how they've been so betrayed by things they never cared about in the first place.

Pomies how do you stop being a control freak?

>>69118197
In what context?

>>69118197
You mean how to fix trust issue? Hell if I know.

>>69118133
Imagine thinking for a single second that any Pomie wanted Pomu to stay in Nijisanji past the summer of 2023, or that any Pomie would fucking go to bat for kurosanji lmao

>>69118133
This is more of a doompost than anyone saying Elira is a bully.

>>69091493
Speaking of new wave, vivi’s sub number is so close to 100k. And her number was finally increasing again a week after selen’s termination, then niji en has that stream. Thinking about this makes me really mad at the company’s pr strategy

>>69118704
Elira bullies my dick and I want her to piss on it

Just a reminder that as this is a slower thread, your vernacular gives you away far more easily here than elsewhere.

>>69120006
oh no!
anyways...

>>69120006
>Anons now know I am horny retard who is totally in love with Pomu for real
Fuck

>>69120006
I've been a pissfag for years though.... don't take that away from me

>>69120823
you disgust me on so many levels

>>69120823
she should be sitting on my face instead

>>69120823
I think I would laugh in this situation. Feesh pissing herself while being totally smug about pissing herself is too funny.

>>69120679
It's too late, Pomie, we know everything! Now PERISH!

>>69121120
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>69121086
It's based off of some videos that I have of Japanese girls doing it. It's been in the works for forever. I wish that the person my commissioned would get it done with already.
I'm thinking about reaching out to one of the skeb artists I've reached out to before and seeing if he can do it

To the streamer pomudachi, good luck with your webinars

>>69120823
I'm fine with you having a piss fetish but ruining a train seat like that is fucked up.

>>69120823
The hair looks so sexy here

>>69120823

>>69121332
I think you should share those videos

>More posts about Finana pee in 10 minutes than dramafags/concernfags in hours
This is a good thread

>>69121898
Through pee unity

https://youtu.be/HuNhomo_Gic

i want to talk about anal not pee...

>>69122592
So you like scat

>>69122726
Only if it's jelly

>Just realized now that the pomie asking for advice about Doom Eternal was probably just joking about Doomposting and didn't want advice
I am slow...

>>69123995
>>69123995
>>69123995


New thread baked

>>69124089
My face is grass and should be on that ass

>>69124089
thanks!