/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>69034787
Because people watched her streams, and Pomu's streams, and all of the other streams where they talk about how shit management is.

>>69034787
why take nijis clam at face value?

>>69034787
see >>69034845
Now go back to Nyfco

>>69034787
What claims? The few scraps of information we've gotten have been Niji leaks and friends of hers speaking up, because Doki actually has a competent lawyer telling her what she can talk about safely, and she actually listens to said lawyer.

>>69034787
It helps that Selen isn't the one who even brought up the bullying.

>>69034845
>>69034919
Okay but this is not about management. It's about the livers bullying her.

>>69034787
because she is right. it's not a matter of belief, everything she says is 100% fact

>>69034787
They don't. All the evidence says Selen is right.

>>69034956
The livers are management.

>>69034956
>bring up management
>no it's about bullying
>okay, so about the bullying...
>no it's about management

>>69034787
A company that is known for being dishonest vs a streamer who is known for being hard working.

Gee, I wonder who people trust more?

>>69034787
The only thing I take at face value are cooked /vt/ rrats.

>>69035031
>Selen has never lied before

>>69034787
well hen you try to suicide
and then the company you worked for and it's livers share your medical documentations about your hospitalization from said suicide attempt
such claims do not sound so far fetched unless you are a mega retard

>>69034787
Because most of the responses from niji's management and talens have lent credibility to those claims.

>>69034787
Selen tried to kill herself, so it's fine if she bullied the others for the past 3 years.

>>69034787
everyone hated her guts until she tried to rope, I guess that suddenly makes all her years of being a shitbag magically disappear, she's a saint now and can do no wrong.

you shouldn't really take her or the company's words at face value
both of them are biased to themselves
but people are jumping on the pitchfork nijisanji/sucking selen's dick bandwagon because everyone loves to hate the perceived villain

not defending niji (they made some retarded pr decisions), but you know everything i've said is true

>>69034787
she tried to kill herself
that is why
she is survivor and a strong girl to public opinion

>>69035079
so thats why hitler killed himself

she tried to do an hero that is the reason.

>>69034787
Where are the receipts?
>oh they're confidential
okay then, why aren't we waiting for case resolution then?
>uhhh have you not heard? she tried to suicide!
and??

>>69035112
>everyone
>one of the most popular NijiEN girls
Based retard

>>69035112
>she's a saint now and can do no wrong.
I find it funny that the stream which attempted to address things had her so-called 'friends' say they felt 'betrayed' and their trust was compromised, when she was the one who could literally be dead now if she didn't fail at suicide
what kind of fucking 'friends are they really that they have the nerve to blame her for everything and take zero accountability irresponsibility for their own actions
faggot behavior
would they still blame her f everything if she had actually died instead?
really makes you see just what it is they care about, and it certainly isn't her well-being or health at all

>>69035308
if your mom were to off herself out of nowhere one day wouldn't you feel betrayed anon

>>69035079
>>69035112
>>69035211
>>69035218
>>69035260
cliquebots detected. your crimes against your fellow livers will be brought to light

>>69034787
This. I have been saying the exact same thing. All the losers defending her claims when she has no evidence to back it up and multiple people have spoken out against her.

It's very easy to believe her when the other side says 'nooo we didn't bully her trust us' and then releases a prerecorded hit piece timed exactly to dump allegations on her immediately after she had gone live on a long scheduled stream and swarm her with curious people, hoping to trigger a meltdown.
The fucking gall. If there was any doubt it was cleared at that moment.

>>69035308
killing yourself without caring about the people you're leaving behind is pathetic and selfish

>>69034787
Because she's barely made any public claims herself. Niji keeps fucking self-reporting and then trying to say "But it's all total bullshit!" in the same breath.

>>69034787

>ITT: OP tells us he's a Niji paid company shill without saying it outright

>>69034985
">Evidence
What evidence? Her saying things?

>>69035211
Niji makes little effort to improve their PR. It literally gets worse after every drama episode in this 100 episode season

>>69035112
Based

>>69035265
>okay then, why aren't we waiting for case resolution then?

That's the question I ask every time Nijisanji opens its fucking mouth and pouring more gasoline on the fire.

>>69035375
>wouldn't you feel betrayed anon
that's a faggot way o thinking about the situation and completely immature behavior
I would blame myself for not being empathetic enough or making enough of an effort, not my mom. I wouldn't shit n my mom's memory, or anyone who I cared about, if they died, what the fuck?
>>69035522
You sound like total nigger retard who has never been to a funeral or had someone you care about die

>>69035211
The only sensible answer in this thread

>>69034787
What claims? Almost everything we know has been self reported by Niji lmao

>>69034787
Because we already knew about the clique

>>69034787
>Why do people take her claims at face value?

Because Bullied into suicide and Mental Health issues is too good of a story. You can whiteknight a woman and feel like a hero.

>>69034956
She never claimed that so what are you even asking?

>>69035653
wish your dad opted to kill himself instead of struggling to raise you lool

>>69035548
You sound like a pol fag crying about imaginary Jews out to get him.

>>69035211
All Selen has been doing is just standing there when Nijisanji takes the time to find new and ever increasingly creative ways to stick knives, forks and twigs into themselves
Now you demand she stab herself too because you don't like it that her opponent is now crawling towards her bleeding from its anus while she's untouched. It's not "fair". 'Both sides" must be at fault.

>>69034787
Because I want her to succeed and Niji to fail.

>>69035814
I wish your oshi stays in Nijisanji EN forever.

look, one side is sperging out like a rushia-tier menhera and surprisingly it's not the person who literally tried to commit suicide

>Bully, harrassmeny
Niji told you this, Doki merely confirm it

>>69034845
I refuse to believe any of you shit suckers watched a second of Nijisanji.

You anons are actually autistic huh?
>Get bulied by entire staff and friends
>have no real friends or allies you can rely on
>try to kill yourself
>"OMG, why did you betray us like this, how could you do such a thin, what is wrong with you? I feel hurt you'd do this!"
What do you niggas expect her to do when no one supports her at all or is on her side?
Imagine feeling so little control over you life to the point where people get mad at you cause you aren't even allowed to even take your own life which they own.
I honestly think this isn't over
She will try to kill herself again, she has no support
having support from fans isn't enough
she needs real guidance, which she has none of
she has no one, she is alone in this world, and everyone is against her, it is only a matter of time before she realizes the only solution is death, people will be so much happier if she dies right? she is probably in a fragile state of mind and all it takes is a small trigger and it is over.
What a fucking shitshow
niji fags are cringe

>>69035211
>'Both sides' fagging

>>69034787
because management kept backing them up

>>69034787
Cause Nova bully me too before she become Nijisanji

>>69035694
>Self reported
Dumb fuck thinks he's Inspector Gadget and has the case figured out. How did they "self report" and how do you know about this without seeing the document in question?

She has not put out any claims. All the claims come from NijiEn and she is merely responding.

>>69035956

>>69034787
Because other events have paved the way for her credibility? What kind of retarded question is this?

>>69035956
>Niji fans are cringe
Says the faggot who believes someone without evidence

>>69034787
It's kinda ironic that she actually claimed fucking nothing
It's all Niji claimed to public that she claimed shit, and then their defense is so spotty that everyone just pick the other side
Doki literally wins by doing nothing

>>69034787
She did a heckin suicide attempt

>>69036109
medical records were leaked nigger
the open repeat she tried to suicide
you'd think she try to kill herself for laughs and not cause something was happening behind the scenes?

>>69036024
You're guilty and you know it, but if you shut up now maybe you'll get away with it

>>69036096
No events have paved their way for her credibility. Cope harder Dragone

>>69036056
Change that but with the company logo and you will have your mirror-image

>>69036173
>>69036190
>Muh suicide
Not evidence you dumb fans. I can say you raped me and then try and kill myself. By your retarded logic it would mean you guys actually raped me.

I bet you'd guys be blaming niji more if she actually died
She'd be a MATYR hen
instead she is still alive and that means you all can shit o her cause she couldn't even get killing herself right, she is that much of a failure to you all isn't she?
why no say it then?
why not just admit you wished she killed herself?

>>69034787
Because if this drama reverse like rushia (or remain the same) I will still eat good shit!

It's incredibly telling that Nijisisters have moved on from trying to defend Niji to just straight up attacking Doki. Even the sisters know Niji can't be defended at this point

anycolor and the clique and their shills bullied a woman into trying to kill herself. end of story.

there is no excuse for what they have done

>>69035211
The problem here is that it was all behind closed doors until the termination notice. Even here on rrat central, we still weren't sure what was really going on and some people thought Selen was going to be whipped into submission and come back. Nijisanji had an opportunity to keep a lid on this. They could've kept things professional. Then if she tried making accusations, she'd just look like a crazy bitch who was going to get her ass whooped in court for making wild claims.
Instead they chose to strike first in such a tactless way that she came out looking like the victim. This whole situation is almost entirely self-inflicted. And it keeps getting worse.

>>69036248
well trying to kill yourself for no reason is a pretty ballsy move
killing yourself usually means you are pretty serious about what you are saying to everyone
unless you are a total schizo which should be institutionalized and treated for mental illness

>>69036248
That's cool and all but she had proof about the medical stuff.

>>69036267
No, dumb Dooki Dragones just can't view things objectively and are making assumptions to defend their queen. Explain the screenshots about the video. Proof that Dooki was in the wrong. But you fans conveniently forget that part.

>>69036267
>trying to defend Niji to just straight up attacking Doki. Even the sisters know Niji can't be defended at this point
true
I honestly think at this point one of you anons are crazy enough t assinate doki yourselves
I hope it doesn't happen
but you mother fuckers are literally insane with your ramblings and justifications

>>69036248
Non, non, it'd be like if someone posted cryptically that "truth will be revealed" and then suddenly you see someone else screaming "I DID NOT RAPE HER, SHE'S LYING, I DID NOT PUSH HER IN THAT ALLEY AND PUTTING MY DICK INSIDE HER PUSSY"

>>69034787
Because Nijisanji has a history of being shit, and Doki has had many people who have worked with her come out in support of her and vouched for her character

>>69036338
How do you know? Because Dooki said? Imagine being so horny over an avatar that you lose your sense of your objectivity .

>>69036417
>assinate doki yourselves
Calm the fuck down ESLSchizo

>>69036464
Doki didn't say shit, Niji came out and said that themselves

>>69036393
>Proof that Dooki was in the wrong

In the wrong about what exactly?

What were Doki's claims and why were those claims incorrect?

>>69036440
Doki has a history of mental illness and being a liar and hypocrite.

>>69036109
I get that "innocent until proven guilty" and blah blah, but really? Defending a negligible japanese company?

>>69034787
What is her claim exactly?

People keep trying to imply that she has said a ton of things and thrown out accusations, but she hasn't. Niji was the one that threw out the accusations first and she only clarified where she needed to.

If Shinzo Abe can be so easily assassinated
then having one of you psycho fags go after Doki is within the realm of likelihood, kek

>>69036345
>>69036378
>Hurr muh suicide
Dooki Dragones taking everything at face value. Again, I can say I killed myself because you guys raped me. A suicide attempt doesn't change objective reality. You all need to go outside more.

>>69036515
Holy NIJISEETHE

>>69036515
You need more than a fake screenshot to convice us NDF retard

>>69036393
>Explain the screenshots about the video.
What screenshots? The one in the OP about bunch of clipniggers making up lies for THE ALGORITHM?

>>69036515
>because someone is mentally ill, therefore you can't trust anything they say

So we can't trust anything you can say either?

>>69036545
Why are fucking pagpags trying to blend in?

>>69036515
Oh look, the same tactics used to insult Sayu with no backing. Because you know it falls apart the instant you spell your 'history' out

>>69036550
Based retard getting bonked by based cops for not providing some kind of proof.

>>69034787
It not like management has said that she didn't spend 15 grand on something they canned. It's not like they contested that she was in the hospital for trying to kill herself, the only things they said was that she did stuff without permission and wasn't actually bullied (lol). Anyone looking at the story who isn't a bootlicking jap would see this and take the side of Selen.

>>69036550
you'd kill yourself, logically speaking, if the truth was worth your life
if you kill yourself just to lie then you'd be a complete dumbass who did it for no logical reason, which makes no sense
also, you'd be dead, idiot

>>69036497
No they didn't dummy. Show me where they said that.

>>69036611
They didn't even say she wasn't bullied, they say they believe they "didn't act unjustly"
A manager can think he's just for chewing out an employee for weeks on end, but he'll still be full of shit.

>>69036499
Wrong about the reason she has to take down that youtube video. Screenshot by Niji proved she is wrong about that. She posted it without approval, a breach of contract most likely. She's a liar.

>>69036639
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481

>>69036639
Faggot you are just trying to waste people time at this point, troll like this ain't going to work

>>69035522
you should try it!

>>69036566
Cope: >>/vt/thread/6740058#p6744799

>>69036706
>Wrong about the reason she has to take down that youtube video
What was the reason she stated? Give receipts.
>She posted it without approval
Did she claim she had approval?

>>69036706
Where did she lie about the reason the video got privated?

>>69036605
>Evidence against my theory. Me ignore
The average Dooki fan

>>69036723
quit it selen, we're not coworkers anymore.

>>69036762
>bpd is one off schizophrenia

The armchair psychologists in this place I swear...

>>69036706
>he believed a totally not cropped screenshot leaked by the interested party that only shows his side of the story
kek
we don't even know whether that's actually a DM with Selen and not the manager posting to himself to save face
Because they cropped everything

>>69034787
If the other choice is NijiEN management then it's not weird for people to believe Selen. But eh she's probably a crazy lying menhera just like Rushia and other terminated vtubers, normal people don't kamikaze themselves to destroy a company due to self preservation.

>>69036515

the type of gaslighting you're doing right now means that you should be in special circle of hell.

Doki did nothing wrong.

>>69036720
Nowhere in there did they say anything about harassment. Try again Dookitard

Reminder that Elira is literally a manager in NijiEN

>>69036464
>>69036393
Kek this zhang femoid can't even speak english.

>>69036881
Holy fuck you are retarded. This has to be a bit right?

>>69036836
Cope harder fag. You know it's prove that Dooki is wrong

>>69036881
It literally does. I know English is your second language, but you could at least try to read.

>>69036881
niji-fags are on pure delusion at this point
god I love that I only watch indie tubers

>>69036910
You must be a retard then because people have been replying to me perfectly fine. Cope harder Dookitard.
>>69036937
No, retarded is you believing things without evidence because you're horny for an avatar

>>69036836
The screenshot proves nothing that we didn't already know which was Selen didn't have approval from management. But Niji is so fucking far behind or just actually head-up-their-ass dumb that they think that is the reason people are upset rather than, oh, I don't know, the corporate hit piece they put out as they fired her. That is what ignited the fire.

>>69036910
>Dooki
Nyfconig confirmed, reminder that these subhumans have a Discord to spam the board with the same threads over and over

>>69036868
>pls feel bad for her having a mental illness even though it's the reason for her shitty behavior that shouldn't be encouraged

>>69034787
I'd like to speak to Sylvie please

If the statement that there is no official nondisclosure agreement is true, then what was kingyozaka meiro who was fired for violating the nondisclosure agreement?
Don't tell me they erased him just because he speaks the same dialect?

>>69034787
Her claim is "I attempted suicide because of bullying and a toxic work environment". Has Nijisanji done anything to disprove that?

at this point i'm waiting for a jmod smackdown

>>69036981
>>69036990
It literally said nothing about harassment in that document. It just said they fired her because she's dumb and didn't follow the rules. Cope harder Dookie fags

>>69035550
There is no need for her to go into details, NijiEN's tweets and Elira's stream are enough proof that she is the victim here.

>>69035308
The kind of "friends" who deserve the rope themselves, and no fucking choice in the matter. Or saving.

>>69034787
sup Elira

>>69036198
I am sure if you say 'nuh-uh' and 'cope' enough, your CEO can stop having to bow to the investors as his company implodes.

>>69036605
You're just proving his point with Sayu kek
>>69036586
I'd say it depends on the mental illness. BDP or schizophrenia? Treat every word out of their mouth like bullshit because it most likely is. Autism or OCD? Probably fine.

>>69034787
Because she hasn't made any. Everything we know has been a self-report from niji. So if their side of the story already makes them look bad imagine what hers would do?

>>69036794
>Selen does nothing
>Nijisanji shits itself and hollers
>"It's Selen! She made Niji shit itself with the concentrated power of her mental illness!"

>>69037008
What should we believe in, then?

So how much do they pay per post for these kind of threads? Can you make some good money if you're really blasting out FUD?

>>69037035
Hmm, what's more likely, the black company which has attempted to destroy their ex employees before and has a continued pattern of behaviour in which they lie and exploit their fans and employees attempted to destroy their ex employee and then lie and exploit their fans and employees

OR

This was all made up

Hard one.

>>69037081
>webm
MY SIDES

>>69037021
Dooki fans suffering delusions listed here>>69037035
Just like their oshi Dooki

>>69036024
Listen here, you worthless piece of shit. Maybe you should lurk more or blow your fucking brains out. Useless nijicunt.

>>69034787
>Why do people take her claims at face value?

1. Multiple artist have been ghosted by Nijisanji and weren't paid what they were owed and then Selen stepped in and paid out of her own pocket when Niji failed.

2. You don't take down a christmas video released on fucking christmas and then act like it's Selen's fault. Last Cup of Coffee wasn't even paid for by the company. Selen spent 15k of her own money on it. Any management worth a salt would have worked to get sponsors to fund it. But not Nijisanji, they refuse to fund it.
In fact their entire fucking reason for removing the video is that she never got premission to do that song. The one who wrote the song and hold rights to it.... LilyPichu and her manager has stated they already gave Nijisanji all the premissions for it since 2022, and yes LilyPichu posted that on twitter. This means management has been sitting on this shit for over a fucking year without saying OK or NO. They basically ghosted Selen on this shit for a entire year. This is either bullying or very incompetent management.

3. That was not the first time they shut down her colabs, concerts or other planned events. It's like a monthly thing to fuck with her. At that point, it's clearly bullying. Any fan following have seen it since over a year ago. It's no suprise that they pulled that shit with Last Cup of Coffee.

4. Even Pomu unmasked her own members only stream on her last day to reveal she cried over losing a major oppertunity because Nijisanji couldn't be bothered to tell her about it. So she didn't know until it was too late. Nijisanji deleted that video very quickly.

I could go on but I'd hit the character limit for a post.

>>69036951
Wrong about what? Even in that vetted message we know that
>manager responded positively after the vid check
>manager suddenly changed his stance AFTER the video is posted (the ex-liver message is timestamped after the vid has been posted)
>it took manager at least 24 hour to notice that the vid has been posted
And then we need to add the fact that
>manager recorded everything selen said
>manager leaked everything selen said in his DM to unrelated liver (aka third party, aka public)
Both of which is what the trio claim doki gonna do

>>69037060
It specifically mentions claims of harassment lol

>>69037101
>Treat every word out of their mouth like bullshit because it most likely is
Given Doki has said nearly nothing and the only thing she has said were things that Niji said first, what exactly am I meant to think is bullshit here?

>>69037081
LMAO THIS IS HILARIOUS FUCKING SAVED

>>69037080
Can't spell 'Elira' without L-I-A-R.

>>69036545
Elira fled to Japan for a reason. She is no longer safe in NA.

>>69037141
What if a mix of both?

>>69037174
Not worth it mate, they're a troll farm in overdrive because more leaks are happening.

>>69034787
We don't, the pattern over the years, and the absolutely batshit insane response from KurosanjiEN "management," if such a thing even exists, makes things pretty clear.

>>69037060
And then Nijisanji released a screenshot that accidentally proved they were harassing Selen. Also they broke the law by handing confidential documents to people who weren't legally allowed to view them.

>>69037015
The timestamp actually reveals that the manager added the ex-liver perms requirement AFTER the vid has been posted, actually

>>69037035

gaslighting won't work. /vt/ has your ass and your companies cooked.

>>69034787
the history of the other branches and since gone livers speak for themselves my dumb little sea monkey

>>69034787
These are obviously just banter, am I missing some inside joke?

>>69037008
Fuck off back to the shithole you came from or actually go hang yourself, you God-damned subhuman.

>>69037101
Every single thing they pulled out for Sayu is complete bullshit. Luca is getting away with ten times as much as Sayu RIGHT NOW as we speak.

>>69037135
>one of your livers tries to commit suicide
>what course of action to take next:
>A: Support your liver and help in her recovery process because you hope she gets better and can grow to be in good health
>B: Completely shit on your former liver, try and ruin her reputation, leak her personal and medical info, put all the blame on her, and take zero accountability
I dunno guys, I think nijisanji is trolling everyone at this point, no way they are this stupid without doing it on purpose

>>69037227
It's mutually exclusive in this case. Unless you have the really weird situation in which case Selen never actually experience bullying but Nijisanji was absolutely bullying other people than were not her.

>>69037053
Has she done anything to prove that?>>69037073
So everything Doki says is truth but Elira is a liar? Letting your dick do the thinking. Cope
>>69037081
Do you check under your bed for Niji fans? Is Niji CEO in the room with us now?
>>69037135
Niji didn't shit them selves though. I bet Selen did when she tried roping herself
>>69037138
Believe in what comes out in trial when all the evidence is out

>>69034787
She has barely made any claims. Nijisanji makes them for her at this point.

>>69037266
You sound like a twitter troon. Go back there. /vt/ constantly shat on this menhera before.

>>69037279
what bullying? that was just banter, just some inside jokes

>>69037279
Yeah it's literally a bunch of people in discord raiding the board, that's the joke

nijiniggers cant stop coping

>>69037307
I'm done replying to you, you are an absolute retard

>>69037247
Oh really? I haven't looked at the screenshot very closely. Do you have it on hand?

>>69037308
basically this
they are so shit on optics it is baffling
their pr team should be fired immediately for how incompetent they are at this

>>69037230
And they should all be lined up against the wall and shot. Every animal that defends such behavior is unworthy of the title and rights of human, it's a very clear litmus test.

>>69037307
>Do you check under your bed for Niji fans?

No, I just check their discord to see if they're shitting up the board with another raid again. >>69037047

>>69034949
*claimed harassment
learn to fucking read

My rrat is that this is an ARG due to the alignment of their actions from their respective character's lore

>>69037307
You are nothing but a filthy, stinking animal that is unfit to live, much less speak to your betters. Fuck off, cunt.

>>69037279
>>69037330
The right pic is also 'banter' but she had a meltdown over it thus she is a hypocrite who can dish it but can't take it. The context is that people bantered about her being bad at MGR and she had a meltdown over it and never played the game again.

>Yugo, Zaion, Nina, Mysta, Pomu, Kyo all leave
>let's think bpd is causing this particular case, no siree, can't be anycolor leaking livers like a sieve, nothing wrong there, absolutely wonderful place to work!

>>69037307
>So everything Doki says is truth but Elira is a liar?
Yes.
>Do you check under your bed for Niji fans? Is Niji CEO in the room with us now?
I'm replying to a Niji shill at this very moment.
>Niji didn't shit them selves though
lmao Niji shit themselves so hard they lost 200k subs in a week, the share price is down, and the CEO himself apologized to investors.
>Believe in what comes out in trial when all the evidence is out
Nah I believe Selen

>>69037157
>everyone who disagrees with me is Niji fan
Delusional just like you oshi
>>69037183
>Manager responded positively
And then told her not to post yet. And her dumb ass did anyway. Doesn't matter how long until he noticed
>Manager leaked everything Selen said
Dookitard, its a DM not an NDA. He can show whoever he wants.
>>69037191
It doesn't
>>69037238
Proof they were confidentia? Besides Selen's faulty words. You don't have any. Gullible Dookitard
>>69037287
No

>>69037434
The right pic literally says Pomu Rainpuff. This is a troll thread.

>>69037502
Pomu was a mod in her chat during the ordeal and had to come forward to tell people to stop bantering because she was having a meltdown. Search the archive about it.

>>69037460
Translation: I'm a lonely virgin who believes everything his anime waifu tells him

>>69037492
Interesting that you won't reply to these ones because they actually expect you to prove your claim rather than shitposting

>>69037202
>>69037015
>>69036782

>>69034787
I don't. When EVERYBODY is telling me I must support one side, then I know bullshit is up. I also just automatically take the other side of Golemgold. Something is definitely fishy.

>>69037492
>And then told her not to post yet. And her dumb ass did anyway. Doesn't matter how long until he noticed
That's after it's already been posted.
Look at the timestamp of the message properly
>Dookitard, its a DM not an NDA. He can show whoever he wants.
And yet you cries when Selen recorded the voice call
She aint even publishing that yet

>>69037307
>Has she done anything to prove that?
The three retards doing the stream on Elira's channel is entirely because Doki had proof and her lawyer sent it to the company (which they then shared with the people involved lmao). How could you already forget this.

>>69037492
This branch will be eradicated. You do not have a fucking choice in the matter, worm.

>>69037354
>>69037426
Bye bye Dookitards. Have fun wacking off to Dooki tonight. Wait until you see how she really looks like. Doubt you would be defending her this hard.
>>69037389
You got BPD schizo delusions like your oshi

>>69036762
shes just like me frfr

>>69037202
The whole harassment thing.
>inb4 Niji said that
No they said she FELT harassed not that she WAS harassed. And if you've ever dealt with people with BPD you know they love to perceive every little innocuous thing as a malicious personal attack

This is all of course assuming she actually does have BPD
>>69037288
I'm gonna be honest I dunno shit about Luca all the caps I've seen about that shit are War and Piece tier and I ain't reading all that

>>69037307
>Believe in what comes out in trial when all the evidence is out
I see, so we cannot, under any circumstances, attempt to figure out what is going on by ourselves - we must wait for incorruptible judicial system to dictate the truth and we must believe it

>Why do people take her claims at face value?
I don't care if she's telling the truth or not. I just want to watch the world burn.

>>69037611
They're subhuman cockroaches. Crush them under your feet, they deserve tenfold what Selen got.

>>69037492
Selen went ahead and posted her MV because management lied to her about Nijisanji needing perms for Nijisanji's own intellectual property.

>>69036762
Obvious schizo post, try harder

>>69037669
Look at this worm, unable to grasp simple matters of principle without being threatened. Perhaps you should be chopped in half, little worm.

>>69037627
Nobody cried about a voice call. Dookitards making stuff up now
>>69037611
If dookitards agree with me about the video drama then they shouldn't use it as evidence of Niji wrong doing
>>69037632
What proof? You haven't seen the document. Shut up like you know what you're talking about.

>>69035903
ooooooooof. Jesus

>>69037700
>No they said she FELT harassed not that she WAS harassed
Okay, so Niji said that. Where's the proof that Selen said what they say she said?

>>69037307
>Letting your dick do the thinking
>>69036464
>so horny over an avatar
>>69037008
>because you're horny for an avatar
>>69037576
>believes everything his anime waifu tells him
Nijinigger is projecting so hard he's imploding KEK

>>69035308
>implicate your friends who are other famous people in your suicide attempt and threaten management at your workplace that you'll go public with the details

>durr durr durr why are these people defending themselves from having their careers destroyed? derp de durr

If anything them being completely unphased by her accusations prove the opposite, that they feel zero shame for whatever she's referring to
so either all the Niji talents are Psychopaths or she's the one who's lying

>>69037669
Spew whatever bullshit you please, tranny.

Understand however that Nijisanji is acting more menhera and schizo than the BPD girl and will continue to self-destruct no matter how much you shit up the board.

OP is a paid shitposter hired by niji.

>>69037649
Haha. I don't give a fuck, I don't like Niji
>>69037713
No, because you're all retards who believe things without evidence
>>69037764
Which is a direct violation of policy. And the screenshots even say they need to check beforehand since the video included past talents, which contradicts what she said. So thanks for clarifying she lied.

>>69037796
>Nobody cried about a voice call
Vox did in the black screen vid

She deleted many of the tweets but
as she is someone who alleges herself to have bpd, it isn’t surprising if she is unintentionally carrying out manipulative behaviors. Common behaviors include threat of self harm or seeking to portray others’ actions as injustice towards themselves to gain sympathy.

Doki has a history of setting her followers on others over ‘infringement’ of her copyright (similar emotes) and then back tracking with things like ‘don’t harass them guys, I was just trying to protect myself’

Uses the same tactic of not saying anything so people can harass the other person for a few days before pretending to be an innocent girl that meant no harm

sadly the replies from other parties still remain


While it is true there is a hate bandwagon going on, humans are mostly empathetic creatures that these unintentional manipulative behaviours will appeal to. Ppl tend to side with proclaimed victims on the internet due for the same reasons.

So from the beginning it isn’t surprising that ppl r choosing to take everything she says as the truth.

To add on, supporting a person against a corporation is often the choice people will make. If it turns out the person was right, u can go ‘I KNEW IT I SUPPORTED YOU FROM THE START’ whilst in scenarios where the corporation was right will lead to ‘LOL looks like im a corpo fan again’

the more i thik about the more i need her to see what that "bullying" she faced was.

>>69037796
>If dookitards agree with me about the video drama then they shouldn't use it as evidence of Niji wrong doing

Explain, in detail, what exactly is your stance on the video drama?

>Refuse to quietly graduate her
>Write a shitfest of termination notice that would give any PR agent a heart attack
>Have a two minutes hate stream out of asshurt
A better question is why side with Nijisanji?

>>69037852
>defending themselves from having their careers destroyed
they are destroying it themselves my guy. doki never went public with any of it, niji did

>>69037856
>Hurr muh granny
>>69037920
Oh ok? One person crying about it doesn't disprove the point i made
>>69037876
Go back to pol

>>69037852
>so either all the Niji talents are Psychopaths or she's the one who's lying
eeehh
i think is both
they dont aknowldged her feeling of feeling bullied but what she was bullied ofr probably is some bullshit like "they didnt invite me to this collab" or some shit.
at this point we need the actual bullying receipts or at least have her talk about what that bullying actually was.

>>69037852
>implicate your friends

No that was unironically Niji's fault.

>>69037905
>Which is a direct violation of policy. And the screenshots even say they need to check beforehand since the video included past talents, which contradicts what she said
Except they said that after the video has been posted and after they posted the ok multiple times all throughout the year whenever Selen posted an update and ask for their explicit approval to continue after every update on the MV

>>69034787
Selen could've very well released her little self funded MV without permission, but that's not the problem here, they handled this the most comically abysmal way possible, and than keep doubling down, turning this what should've be a quick contract termination into a PR nightmare, it eclipsed the little MV drama, this is incompetent management blowup in their face, if only they got better managers, one's who doesn't take over a day to just to reply "no"

>>69037852
Doki never name anyone bruh. No need to smear her online if what in the documents wasn't true

>>69037852
A lot of the remaining niji talent ARE psychopaths. Especially Elira. Vox is a clear narcissist

>>69037796
I don't need to see the document. Niji shared it internally and the contents made certain talents panic.
Why would they panic and try to smear Selen if the claims of bullying, favoritism and a toxic work environment were untrue?

>>69038011
>so either all the Niji talents are Psychopaths
Not all. Just the ones in the clique.

>>69037938
It's a nothing burger. Dooki obviously broke company policy. People trying to make this seem like Niji's fault are delusional.

>>69037852
>implicate your friends
She never implicated anyone
they literal implicated themselves for no reason like absolute retards

>>69034787
OH NO NO NO NO ANOTHER DAMAGE CONTROL STREAM
https://www.youtube.com/live/jHGmrlXE0Zk?si=WcyfwjiheHJX8sye

>>69038066
>Why would they panic and try to smear Selen if the claims of bullying
becasue she threatened to sue and whatever was there change many points of view on her. Even vivi RM unfollowed her.

>>69037852
They're acting like a bunch of fucking psychos, that is why I hate them and want them dead. I only hate "people" that much when they demonstrate a complete lack of morals. If you have some morals, it's not a big deal. Doki clearly has some morals even if she has profit-seeking tendencies - she's beyond fucked if she's lying and will probably get it right the second time around in such a case. Nothing to gain, everything to lose from that play. It is the reverse if she's telling the truth.
On the other hand, Elira sounds like a pathological liar, probably incapable of feeling empathy like the rest of us. Aster is a fucking psycho-creep who I'd never trust around a woman I cared about. Vox is a snobby, narcissistic bitch. Enna is also a snobby, narcissistic bitch. And so on.

>>69037958
ironically hey did it themselves by trying to get out ahead of Selen yeah, but the document they released verifies exactly what Selen currently says and has been saying to them up to the release of the document
they said, we aren't giving this bitch the time of day and it completely backfired. but it shows that they at least firmly believe Selen is unreasonable and making stuff up

and as I've said previously on this topic. It is completely obvious that Selen has a motive to get out of this situation looking like she's in the right
clearly Nijisanji didn't like that and when negotiations didn't go anywhere with her threatening legal action, they decided to just self-detonate instead but their motivations seem obvious

>>69038040
They did not make that claim after the video came up. You're the one who said they didn't know the video came out for 24 hours. So which is it?

>>69034787
> It's clickbait so it must be true

>>69037852
>all the Niji talents are Psychopaths
I thought this was commonly accepted knowledge long before this
Nigga wat?

>>69034787
im still waiting for her receipts. she has them, right?

>>69035265
So for some reason Nijisanji decided to take her to Twitter instead of the courts. She is not biting and following her lawyers advice. A multi-billion dollar company losing to an employee is very likely because they have terrible lawyers and Canada allows people to record conversations legally without the other person's consent. That allows Canadians to get receipts to what normally would be a he said she said situation that is admissible in court. Since she is actually bringing them to court, she is serious about this.

>>69037905
>the screenshots even say they need to check beforehand since the video included past talents
And that's the lie. Management does not need to check for the inclusion of past talents.
>which contradicts what she said
Nope
>she lied
Nope

>>69038066
>Why would they panic if the claims weren't true
The dumbest fucking comment on here. So you're not going to defend yourself from allegations of bullying?

>>69038149
If the claims of harrassment were untrue, they could have proven in in court when selen sued them, and then countersued for damages. Instead they implicated themselves and tried to drag her in public, why would they do this if it wasn't true? What would they stand to gain by bringing it to the public and trying to proactively defend themselves in the public eye if it wasn't true?

>>69038092
Nobody is actually upset about the video though. If Selen broke internal company policy, then whatever. Unfortunate but it's what needed to be done, just like Mel.

People are upset about the fact that Nijisanji tried to publicly assassinate a person in the same breath that they fired them. It's unprofessional and malicious. Since then, Nijisanji has only really vindicated Selen that Nijisanji is unprofessional and malicious in every subsequent disastrous PR action they've taken.

>>69038242
See the timestamp of your screenshot proof properly

>>69038360
Why did Nijisanji specify it came from the talents?

>>69038294
Why would she release documents going into a lawsuit? her lawyer isn't retarded like niji management.

>>69038360
I wouldn't out myself in the fucking process, lmao. Doki barely had to say shit, they spilled their spaghetti everywhere and you are either too retarded or ignorant to understand this, or you are simply a worthless fucking shill who should be hanged from a lamp post.

>>69038346
>Management does not need to check for inclusion of past talents
How the fuck do you know? You don't fucking work for them. You don't even leave your monitor yet you're acting like you know how a company works. So yes, it does contradict what she said and yes she is a liar.

>>69038360
>So you're not going to defend yourself from allegations of bullying?
You'd do it in court. Not on Twitter. Because if you are actually innocent, you wouldn't need to vindicate yourself on the internet, you'd just rip them a new defamation flavoured asshole and sue them into bankruptcy.

>>69037922
You might not be a corpo but you sure are working hard to push the BPD narrative.

>>69038227
i agree with this
Doki claims have a rightfull place to be doubted imo but she has the public opinion and attacking her will alwasy be seen bad unless she actually gives everyone the receipts and those bully claims arent that serious as she claims. which is why i think she will never release them or talk about what kind of bullying she ever faced since she would give them ammo to unmask them if they are not that serious claims.
i still dont get what the fuck she wanted out of her graduation when other got away easily that is also my bigges grip withher lawyering up.

>>69038459
The IP is all Nijisanji's, you retarded, lying troglodyte. Fuck off and die.

>>69038455
>Hurr u try and defend from accusation hurr well dat mean u r duh guilty
Dookitard logic

>>69038294
What kind of lawyer would allow their client to do that ?

We don't know what's actually inside the document, but we do know that
>it contains doxx info for Elira, Millie, Enna
>Elira, Vox, and Ike has seen the documents, especially Vox has inspected it properly
Why did Nijisanji gave Millie and Enna's doxx info to Vox and Ike again?

>>69038360
Because she didn't publicly name anyone and anyone named document could then countersue for her making shit up.

>>69036248
that's the thing though, she didn't even claim anything publicly until the niji retards did. Instead of niji pulling a yugo and just saying things didn't work out so she's leaving, they're the ones that came forward and told everyone she claimed she was being bullied, she had stayed quiet about it. At that point okay, maybe the bullying happened maybe it didn't then surprise, the retards actively bully her. Or is running a completely unprovoked smear campaign specifically timed to coincide with her first stream just a normal thing that friends do and not obvious bullying?

>>69038573
you don't need to defend from accusation publicly if the accusation isn't even done publicly

>>69034787
Company takes the account of a talent to cover their asses.
Company issues a termination letter passing a rrat and refuting responsibilities.
Company privates both Twitter account and Liver channel so you can't even find bits of the Liver's takes on the situation from their official channels (cue in Pomu's publicized membership stream)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder who to trust here.
>>69034956
It's about management. If they justified their paychecks by actually doing their work instead of relegating it all on their talents (workload, communications, relationships, permission requests for assets, budget...) minus the perm shittery, we wouldn't be here.

>>69038560
She was very explicit about being willing to leave amicably, and the company insisted on firing her instead. The company also exposed itself and got caught lying and contradicting itself about a bunch of shit, so their version of events is an obvious fabrication.

>>69038365
> they could have proven in in court when selen sued them
but she didnt sue them and will not sue them i bet. They are on their right to try to defend themselves specially if there is no legal process going on. she is untouchable and it was dumb but the more i see it i do think their claims of not bullying happening against her hold value.

>>69038565

>"You don't fucking work for them"
>immediately whiteknight for Niji and their IP ownership

go home Nijisanji employee, you're drunk

>>69038573
>Shit happen in private
>Bring it to the public
>Cry about it when people ain't taking your side
Vox le retard and his band of the cocks is at it again

>>69038459
>How the fuck do you know?
Because Nijisanji owns its own intellectual property you retarded shill lmao. Selen didn't need to get perms for including Mysta in her MV because Nijisanji owns Mysta. There was no issue with including him. Nijisanji doesn't need to run checks on Nijisanji IP. Management lied.

>>69038408
They didn't Dookitard
>>69038491
>Hurr u defend urself against accusations u r duh guilty
>>69038565
That's a whole lot of assumptions. Smart people don't make assumptions. How do you know they didn't need higher ups approval to get permission to avoid a PR issue? You don't. Becsuse you're a retarded, lying, troglodyte.

>>69035488
not fooling anyone elira

>>69038696
If she wasn't suing them, then why even make it public? What are they defending against? Reminder, Doki never made ANY claims of harrassment publically, so what were they defending against? You're fucking retarded.

>>69034787
>her claims

we got hard proof in official documents and statements from Nijisanji themselves, further corroborated by statements from Nijisanji management on twatter, and also admitting live on stream. It's common sense to take it a face value if both sides essentially agree to the same thing happening. Well, Nijisanji was retarded in wording out themselves and them agreeing wasn't intentional - but still, happened.

>>69038573
Suck-start a shotgun, faggot.

Selen is being a deceptive snake about this. The reason she didn't give names of the bullies is because they got sue her for defamation because the claims are most likely bullshit.

>>69038735
How do you know that Selen hasn't asked for approval 12 times every month when the MV is being worked on? And that all those get an explicit approval from the management before they changed it post-upload
That's right, you don't

>>69038709
It's still their IP, they should have no trouble with permissions. They, in fact, had no trouble with permissions. They then lied about it. You should also off yourself if you cannot fucking read or comprehend what is going on here. Fucking subhuman filth.

>>69038662
that was aobvious a lie given that mysta,nina, pomu and even kyo left wihtout much drama or issue. She lawyered up for a reason.
She wanted something out of graduation that the others didnt have. i do wonder what it was. She threaten to sue and niji said no and terminated her. She new it was going to happen since she responded quickly ot their staemnt.
Their termination notices was awful but i dont buy that she wanted leave amicably when she had all those "receipts" and was already in negotiations.

>>69038801
>The reason she didn't give names of the bullies
She didn't even make any claims of harassment publically, why would she name the bullies?

>>69038786
This, her being a hypocrite doesnt refute what already has happened.

>Nijishart seething while his company is on fire
What a great day

>>69038735
>They didn't
>https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481/photo/2
>"was being harassed by other affiliated Livers"

Funny how sisters depict Selen as this unhinged madwoman, but she's always been cautious with her words when talking about the case whereas the other side's actions would give any competent lawyer a heart attack.

>>69038801
Nijimonkey detected. Fuck off, you stinking animal. Do not even speak to your betters!

>>69038801
>they got sue her for defamation
what

>>69034787
BEWARE OF THIS CLI(QUE)
https://youtu.be/l4SFiMrYplM?si=MbC3gP4LYLtVh-kD

>>69038801
retards, defamation only happens if you defame publicly

>>69034845
lol, even matara and kuro can't shut up about how they are happy with new management

>>69038627
>She didn't claim anything publicly
Yeah she did. She went on Twitter and started going "muh suicide"
>>69038716
>Hurr everyone disagree me is vox
Yeah, Niji underestimated angry retards like yourself
>>69038719
>Hurr management lie
Screenshots prove otherwise Dookitard
Screenshots show that manager needed to ask for approval before video was released. And how do you know Dooki didn't get in trouble for it last time? How do you know the manager didn't need to go up the ladder to get approval to avoid PR disaster? You don't. So stop fucking assuming you Dooki fagtard

>>69038934
*could
Phone autocorrect.

>>69038866
She had all the receipts and a lawyer because she was being harassed. The subhuman fucks at the company saw a foreign legal document, cannot read English worth a damn, immediately thought they were being sued, panicked, and fired her. They should all be beaten within an inch of their lives.

>>69038662
both sides just want good publicity in these instances but Selen kinda fucked that by making an obvious suicide attempt, again sort of casting aspersions on those around her without really stating anything directly
she has never said "I was denied X therefore I tried to kill myself"
instead just a bunch of cobbled together pity-party stories about how she flushed 200k in the toilet

>>69038855
>It's still their IP, they should have no trouble with permissions.
there is a reason they dont make merch of graduatedlivers after not even in promotionals material. it isnt a hard concept.

NDF is so fucking funny because all they can argue against is shit that came out of Nijisanji's side

>>69038993
>Screenshots show that manager needed to ask for approval before video was released
Screenshots show that manager asked for approval AFTER video was released

>>69039014
>she was being harassed
harrased how?

>>69038801
>Be selen
>try to suicide
>fail
>get hospitalized
>leak that you tried to suicide
>get fired
>go indie
>try to move on and that is all...
>...
>Nijisanji releases statement leaking literally everything
She made zero claims
made zero implications
named zero names
Ninisanji incriminated themselves big time like complete retards when they literally didn't even need to say anything

>>69039016
It doesn't fucking matter when Nijimonkeys decided to leak a fucking confidential legal document to talent. That's illegal as shit in Japan, never mind Canada. These aren't human beings capable of rational thought.

>>69039049
nah the line of events match with selen not waiting on mangement.
she fucked up there. still no reaosn to kill herself over that.

>>69038770
>Hurr u r duh elira if u r duh kritikal of duh dook
i>>69038786
It's not hard proof. It's retards assuming things
>>69038789
You should. Finish what your oshi started
>>69038801
Based
>>69038824
Learn English Dookitard

>>69038993
>She went on Twitter and started going "muh suicide"
wow, yeah, she claimed that she did indeed attempted suicide
not claiming anything against a certain corpo tho

>>69038993
No, she didn't. She just said she went to hospital. Which is in keeping with nijisanji's own statement. She played ball for a month.

And your double standards are getting really tiring. If people debated at your level you would be fucked. For example, how do you know nijisanji didn't forge that entire screenshot?

>>69039076
I have to believe that the PR guy is an actual pajeet... they cant be this retarded

>>69038993
>She went on Twitter and started going "muh suicide"
Yeah, AFTER Niji leaked what she was in the hospital for... Nice revision of events though

>>69039138
look at the timestamp carefully

>>69039074
Do you need to be spoon-fed like a widdle fucking babby? Goo goo ga ga, dumbfuck subhuman can't use a search bar or watch a YouTube video. Get the fuck off this board.

I'm a Chink
I understand how the Chink mind works.
You just can't trust em

>>69039145
>Learn English
>>69039145
>i>>69038786

>>69039076
the document said all the things sleene claimed.
so she obviously claimed them to them in their lawyer negotiations.
hence why they said they denye the claims she did.

>>69038735
>>Hurr u defend urself against accusations u r duh guilty
Basically. If you have a legal case, any competent lawyers would tell you to shut the fuck up. If you have no legal case, you're going to do your best to scare and slander the person who actually does have one.

McDonald's did this with the lady they poured boiling coffee onto until everybody thought she was a histrionic bitch.

>>69039163
If the rrats are to believed, it's just Elira going full retard and telling JP managers everything is fine.

>>69039199
you forgot the fact that the document isn't public

>>69039108
>my reputation and our interactions are public and whatever happens to me will reflect poorly on you or bring undue attention that you do not desire
most mentally ill BPD psycho bitches are acutely aware of this fact at all times in their relationships with other people (or even employers) you do realize that right?

kinda reminds me of the Amber Heard thing

>>69039076
>she dindu nuffin, she only tried to sue people behind the scenes while playing the victim
Dokifags sounding a lot like George Floyd supporters.

>>69039145
>no argument
I accept yuor consession

>>69038801
>>69039145
I'm curious, do you two actually own anycolor stock? lmao

>>69038898
Hey Dookitard, you forgot the part where it says "She claimed" meaning it is only Dooki's word and no evidence behind it. DUMB FUCK.

>>69039275
>tried to sue people behind the scenes while playing the victim
so, anycolor?

>>69039275
this is literally a troll. no one is making this post in good faith. this is who is defending niji btw

>>69039178
so you dont know?
that is the biggest mistery imo. Her claims of bullying are obviously denied by their coworkers.
And we as viewers are left to specualte what it was, but wihtout the recepts how do we know it was something really worth for the law or for us to describe as harrasment/bully,etc.?

i think her clais do deserve to be put in some doubt.

>>69039319
except doki only says that it's harassment, not harassment by other affiliated livers

They're both in the wrong, but i know it will do more harm to my non-niji oshi if Selen gets what she wants so I'll side with Niji.

>>69039275
>black delinquent
Thats anycolor though?

>>69039145
Retard-kun is working overtime for Nijisanji

>>69039259
Most Canadians are aware of this, you stupid fuck. It's a standard part of their labor and recording laws.

>>69039244
the documentim talkingabout is the temrination notice. those are the first time we know about the bullying and it was under the claimthat selen was already trhowing this to mangement and the lawyers and they deny such bullying was happening.
At the end of the day it all depends on what is this bullying selen faced that most livers and mangement deline and that never went to a real court.

>>69039390
>gets his 2%
Free meal at least...

>>69039275
so you wish she had died instead of surviving?

>>69038993
>Screenshots prove otherwise
lolno. Nijisanji's own screenshot proves that management lied because it showed a manager falsely telling Selen that they needed to run a check on something which in reality they didn't need to run a check on.

>>69039275
Shoot yourself, you worthless ape, and aim for the heart - you obviously have nothing important to hit in your head.

>>69039390
>says the retard defending a Niji

>>69039334
>give me a severance package and a graduation stream NOW
no
>I tried to kill myself give me a severance package and a graduation stream NOW
no
>I WAS BULLIED BY ALL THE OTHER LIVERS AND I HAVE A LAWYER GIVE ME MY GRADUATION STREAM, I JUST WASTED MORE THAN 200K ON A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT REEEEEEEEEEEE

"selen has been terminated from her contract at our company because...."


literally exactly what happened

>>69039356
No one cares about your random 2view, anon

>>69039199
>the document said all the things sleene claimed.

Why did they make it public though? There's no reason to do that unless they wanted to try to slander Selen. Niji is the party who brought this to the public sphere and rightfully got fucking obliterated.

Anyone who's dealt with a narcissist before eill side with selen, this situation is just too familiar. Remember that you need a different kind of attention craving and mindset to think you actually are that entertaining without doing any kind of work

>>69039411
most judges will not admit most recordings tough.
you have the right to record people but putting it as evidence then depends entirely on the context of the conversation and ahrrasment.
So for people and the law to admit that as valid we sitll need to see what those recordings say.

this is not simply NDF anymore it's their GENERAL

Didn't know bootlickers have hierarchy now KEK

>>69039487
>"selen has been terminated from her contract at our company because...."

See if they just said "selen has been terminated from her contract at our company " like a professional company that didn't have it out for an ex-employee, none of this would have happened.

>>69039049
No they don't. Learn to read a clock Dookitard.
>>69039076
They didn't though retard. Learn to read. They exposed Dooki for being the dumb cunt she is
>>69039147
>Not claiming anything against a corpo
>Posted tweet saying she won't stay silenced
Pick one Dookitard
>>69039158
>Hurr duh evidence isn't real
Talking about getting destroyed in debates. Haha. Try that tactic and see if it works. Cope harder because the evidence proves Dooki wrong.
>>69039161
They just said she was in the hospital Dookitard. Not why.
>>69039193
Dookitard doesn't understand mocking someone
>>69039283
No argument because you can't fucking write English Dookitard.

>>69038735
You don't seem to understand that defending yourself when no claim against you is made public is strange. Nobody needed to defend themselves at this point.

"Someone working at NijisanjiEN has a small penis" is a lot different than "David Smith who is working at Nijisanji EN has a small penis"
David Smith doesn't need to do anything to disprove his small penis if only the first claim is made.

>>69039145
>bullying, ect.

the document was poorly written. That's not even up to the discussion. If that ACTUALLY happened - that's completely different issue :^) But man, we should assume what official paperwork says, right? It's straight from the horse's mouth. If Nijis wrote this crap out of their own violition, then that's pretty much set in stone. A good lawyer is going to railroad that shit to the very last dot and apostrophe. A crappy lawyer, even. I am not a lawyer, I just like legalese drama - I can only say, this shit is so laughably bad, it might require archiving on Kiwi Farms. Prime grade S tier milk content.

>>69037035
>But Selen has BPD!!!
Sure, and if this was all just Selen making a bunch of accusations and Ninjisanji claiming everything was fine, then it would be foolish to blindly believe Selen. Which is true regardless of whether she has BPD or not.

But that's not at all the situation we're actually in.
Instead, Selen has mostly stayed quiet, and it's Ninjisanji throwing out accusations. And despite being a billion dollar company with a whole fucking PR department, they've repeatedly and publicly made asses of themselves. They've turned what should have been at most a quiet terminations into a public spectacle, they've thrown their own talent under the bus for no comprehensible reason, they've admitted to violating legal confidentially, and and they've run a fucking fifteen minutes hate against her.
Selen's alleged BPD isn't the thing destroying Nijisanji right now, Nijisanji is.

>>69039334
But we do know they purposefully started a stream at the same time as hers, calling her out as a liar, which ironically can be seen as harassment/bullying because it will clearly affect her while she's live.
They were probably hoping people would go and harass her after their 15 minute stream finished, and I notice not once in that stream did any of them clearly state that they didn't bully her. It was all boohoo I'm sad, how dare she make a document about us :(

>>69039487
>implying anycolor even give severance package for neutral graduation
>implying one-sided termination doesnt requires them to give even bigger severance package

>>69039559
NIJISEETHE

>>69039559
Can you please stop avoiding comments that you clearly painted yourself into a corner with like this one:

>>69038008

Where is the YOUR evidence Niji clique? Post and spread screenshots of your communication with Selen anonymously to prove yourselves. Unless, of course, you can't because you're actually guilty.

>>69039334
We really dont know, but vox did talk like some high school bully in the video so I'd believe selen

>>69039509
And the narcissists will all lie their asses off in favor of the company, because they are not human beings, do not deserve human rights, are a cancer on the species, and should be exterminated.

>>69039551
ironically they thought doing what they did would protect the stock value once she gets out and starts running her mouth because that's how it works in Japanese corpo culture
clearly they were expecting her to be too menhara to keep quiet about anything going on while she worked at the company though, like they don't trust their NDAs or something

>>69039503
is not slander if its true. if selene made those claims while her engotiations of temrination where happening then they are in their right to let people know they were wrongly accused of things.
They brought it to the public becasue she brought it to them and the legal team in the first place.

>tfw
niggerlicious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K8IEzXnMYk
nijisani did TOO MUCH VOODOO
they failed to ask themselves
is this niggerlicious
maybe if the had this situation would be much better

>>69039322
No Dooki
>>69039353
Debating semantics. Cope.
>>69039390
Retard-kun is working overtime for Dooki
>>69039439
>Hurr u talk about Dooki u r Duh Niji fan
>>69039464
>They needed to run a check on something they didn't need to run a check on
YOU DON'T KNOW FAGGOT. YOU DON'T WORK FOR THEM.
>>69039487
Based

>>69039657
> high school bully
what did they not let her sit with the them
that shit wont fly in court.
People really ignore how important this part is and how weird is for selen to not talk about it.

>>69039736
You lost

>>69034956
>>69034956
She never claimed it was the livers bullying her, retard. She only said that it was, and I quote "bullying from within". It was Nijisanji's own official statement that extrapolated beyond that and claimed that she said it was from other livers.

samefag retard

>>69039736
NIJICOPE

>>69039671
>they are in their right to let people know they were wrongly accused of things.
Sure. They are in their right. Doesn't mean they should air out their dirty laundry in public because it paints them as the aggressors since there was no need for it to be public in the first place?

>They brought it to the public becasue she brought it to them and the legal team in the first place.

This leap of logic doesn't make sense.
>Selen brings in lawyers because she felt wronged
>Therefore Nijisanji makes everything public for...reasons?
?????
Please explain.

Stop giving these retards that are obviously not arguing in good faith the time of day. They are literally sitting in their troll discord laughing their asses off right now at how easy it is to bait you idiots

>>69039565
Building on your analogy, Selen said "someone at Niji EN has a small penis" and then Nijisanji employees David Smith started jumping up and down screaming "THESE ARE FALSE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST ME, DAVID SMITH, MY PENIS IS A MASSIVE 3 INCHES"

>>69039746
She is probably about to sue them, you unspeakable, unteachable, worthless idiot. When you are preparing a lawsuit, you say the bare minimum and then shut the fuck up. When you are about to lose one, you scream bloody murder and spout a bunch of panicked lies like this retarded collection of nijifaggots.

>>69039559
>>69039736
>>69039145
>>69038735
I've never seen someone trying so hard in an anonymous imageboard in my life.

>>69039736

>>69039854
You will look silly for defending EN Miguel Gato in a few months, white knight cuck.

>>69039637
Not a niji fan. Only retards assume without evidence. You've done it twice so far. You're a mega retard.
>>69039647
This doesn't paint anyone into a corner you dumb fuck. For the last time, defending yourself from accusations isn't proof that you did the allegation.

>>69039736
>YOU DON'T KNOW FAGGOT.
Yeah I do.

>>69039559
>Learn to read a clock
You need learn about timezone, dumdum
But it's alrite, I know you'd miss it because they maliciously used two different timezone in that screenshot

>>69039854
Do you think I am not also laughing as I tell them to kill themselves in various ways and appropriately recognize these subhuman worms for what they are? Toying with the vermin is quality entertainment.

>>69039888
kek also checked

>>69039941
>For the last time, defending yourself from accusations isn't proof that you did the allegation.

You said
>implicate your friends
Your claim is that Selen implicated her friends. Selen never implicated anyone. The only time people got implicated was when Nijisanji publicly announced that Selen had claimed to them she was being harassed.

Nijisanji has implicated them. Not her.

>>69039787
>Hurr durr u lost
You're at home fapping to an avatar and white knighting said avatar. Who really lost?
>>69039837
Not a niji fan retard
>>69039912
You have the Dookifans in this board are doing the same thing but you're one of them
>>69039934
Give that to Dooki after her failed suicide attempt.

>>69039983
MUST DEFEND MY QUEEN WITH ALL MY AUTISM

>>69039941
>defending yourself from accusations isn't proof that you did the allegation
ackchyually, it's enough to be presented as circumstantial evidence in court

>>69039938
>You will look silly for defending EN Miguel Gato
But anon, nobody in this thread is defending Elira

>>69040053
NIJISEETHE
Hahaha

>>69039845
they explain why they temrinated her it isnt that hard of an explanation. threating withlegal action over something that is not true is enough for some one to terminate.

But i feell everyone is focusing too much on who brought this to light rather than the real question. what are these harrasment activities that took place that selen confimed to have suffered and niji denies?

>>69040053
>call everyone that even DARES to question anycolor dookitards
>not a nijifan btw

>>69040077
Elira isn't a BPD schizo.

>>69039968
>Duh evidence is manipulated
Cope harder Dookitard
>>69040036
I never said that Dookitard. Dookitards make assumptions because they don't have evidence to prove anything.

>>69039941
>Not a niji fan
That's right, you aren't a Nijisanji fan. You're a Nijisanji intern.

>>69040123
again, see the timestamp again carefully

>>69040131
kek

>2 different retards quoting the same post with the same answer
Sure you aren't, Nijidrones

>>69040117
She obviously is a schizo, what are you talking about ?

>>69039941

hows the weather at Nijisanji headquarters right now?

>>69040053
>no argument
I rest my case, your honor

>>69039941
>defending yourself from accusations isn't proof that you did the allegation
except, none of the allegations were made publically, yet niji decided they had to defend themselves publically and smear doki while doing it because? oh yeah, they are fucking shit scared and trying to control public opinion because she clearly has something on them. if they had nothing to worry about they would have let her destroy her own credibility then slam dunked her afterwards, but that's not what happened is it?

>>69040183
>all BPD is schizos
#NotAllBPD

>>69039892
>She is probably about to sue them
2 more weeks

>>69040063
but can rejected by thejudge and is entirely context dependant. is like the recording thing most judges wont admit it as evidence.

>>69040063
No it's not Dookitard.
>>69040095
Dokiseethe ahahahaha
>>69040101
Hey Dokitard, ever thought I may have a problem with Doki herself and her dumb Dokitards believing everything they say without evidence? No, it must be because Niji.

>>69040196
ARE THOSE GLOWNI

>>69040097
it's from selen's imagination in needing something to threaten to sue the company with, otherwise she has nothing so she has to say that her suicide attempt was because of bullying at the company
she can't just say I didn't like management's decisions regarding my activities so I tried to kill myself because there's no way that would fly in court. she would just look like a fucking immature child

so the whole "harassment" thing is explicitly necessary for her to blackmail the company, at a time when she was complaining about having no money left

>>69040258
>but can rejected by thejudge and is entirely context dependant. is like the recording thing most judges wont admit it as evidence.
That's not for you to decide ;)

>>69040117
Correct. Elira is a malicious sociopath.

>>69040261
>everyone going against niji supports doki
heh gottem

>>69040261
NIJISEETHE AGAIN, sad !

>>69040060
Oh, just imagine a scalpel slicing you open from groin to sternum as you are vivisected, with your viscera and unbelievable amount of fat spilling out everywhere as your dying organs are poked at as the uncaring scientists wonder how the fuck you got so stupid, and so fat as they continue to slice you apart, piece by piece. You are welcome for the lovely imagery. Have a nice day, monkey.
I only watched her fucking clips, hardly her biggest fan. I just hate filth like you. And I will make your time here unpleasant.

>>69040261
>Dokitards believing everything they say without evidence
she has been saying absolutely nothing

>>69040123
You realize you're such an obvious Niji shill you're glowing, right?

>>69040131
You don't know, maybe the shills are getting paid in anycolor stock

kek, as if, they do it for free

>>69040156
Take your own advice. Timestamps prove Doki wrong.
>>69040131
More assumptions. To be expected of a Dokitard
>>69040168
>>69040196
>Hurr u r duh niji suporter
A lot of assuming faggot
>>69040211
Nice mental gymnastics Dokitard. Assumptions aren't evidence though.

>>69040342
Are you okay? It sound like you're having a schizo BPD meltdown just like Doki.

>>69040261
Retarded animals like you deserve a bayonet jammed through your skulls. God willing, it will happen.

>>69040365
He's such an obvious Niji shill he's clearly trolling.

>>69040261
>Dookitard.

so the money for the Niji PR department went to buying the yacht instead then?

>>69040390
>Take your own advice. Timestamps prove Doki wrong.
nah, timestamps prove that management is maliciously lying and added rules after the fact
read it again carefully

>>69037035
The BPD/she's crazy defense would have worked if Anycolor didn't neglect entire branches and do dirty multiple livers by using agressive and scummy methods. We have more than just Selen's testimony. We have words from multiple ex-livers and none of them had anything nice to say about Niji

>>69040291
the main reason it is rejected is becasue the one recording can guide the conversation to a desireable outcome. then again it is all context dependand and the context here is what is the bullying selene received?
without that is dumb for us to even talk about those recordings becasue they might or not be useful in the case of a legal process.

>>69040258
lawsuits take a long time anon, if she is suing them it won't even see a courtroom for months

>>69040332
DOKISEETHE AGAIN, sad !
>>69040365
You realize you're a giant retard making assumptions right?

>>69040395
No, I am bored and your ilk are what I am playing with. I have no empathy for scum like you. Never have. Plenty for normal fucking human beings, though. I like it this way. You are an object, not a person.

>>69040456
>deflect argument to recording instead
heh

>>69034787
You retards keep talking like she dropped some hit piece or something but Niji literally outed the harassment and suicide attempt in their termination notice that came out before Selen even said anything.
They literally threw shot themselves in the foot and said "how could you do this to us, Selen?"

>>69040435
you mean the ex livers that dont even follow her?

>>69040476
If they keep smearing her like this ,you know they ain't going to win, kek

>>69040424
>Added rules after the fact
You are fucking retarded. I'm not going to go back and forth with a retard who can't even tell time.
>>69040419
Dooki will never fuck you.

>>69040456
if recording no work good then why cry?

>>69040390
You are the best clown I've seen in a long time. Keep seething nijisister

>>69040555
again, read the timestamps

>>69040435
You mean the same ex-Nijis that don't follow Doki and haven't come forward to support her at all? Besides Yugo because she's a Jap who never really interacted with her to know what she's like.

>>69040555
You'll never get a raise, retard intern

>>69040555
>Dooki will never fuck you.
BUT YOU SAID SHE'S A WHORE THAT WILL FUCK ANYONE FOR MONEY

>>69040097
>they explain why they temrinated her it isnt that hard of an explanation.
Like AnyColor said, repeated breaches of internal policy.

Again, still no reason to randomly publicly air out your grievances against an ex-employee.

>threating withlegal action over something that is not true is enough for some one to terminate.
No it actually isn't. You can sue your own company if you want to. They cannot fire you for that since that is illegal in most western countries including Canada. They would have to either reach settlement or go to court.

Again, still no reason to randomly publicly air out your grievances against an ex-employee.

>But i feell everyone is focusing too much on who brought this to light rather than the real question

No. That's the entire crux of the issue and why people are angry. Nijisanji made this entire thing public when they had no reason to