/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I don't know but it's kind of funny

>>68989069
Blew up on Twitter and hit Top 5 trending so they looked into it.

>>68989069
Because you guys are blowing it out of proportion?

>>68989069
Take your meds nijisister

>>68989069
Giant Japanese company causes a shitshow that goes trending for multiple days.

Gee I wonder why..

>>68989069
this niji situation is about as bad as the people claiming biden orchestrated benefitting from the ukraine situation when in reality trump failed to be reelected to do so

>>68989069
>it almost feels orchestrated
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

hot take, its a campaign funded indirectly by hololive

>>68989069
>Why do people who cover only big news are covering big news if it is not in their hobbies and interests?
Back to twitter and die there

>>68989069
Because Niji keep acting in retarded ways and it's REALLY funny

>>68989069
>Vtuber companies, like:
>Hololive
>Goodsmile
>and of course, Nijisanji

>>68989069
Charlie has ties to vtubers
Muta (the one in your image) is terminally online but also has a hate-boner for abuse. No joke he's absolutely normie-tier but he's the type to raise a stink on anything he hates, and he recognizes Doki as being heavily abused and even starts that video saying if you need mental support, not to wait.

>>68989069
If it were just some random termination, nobody would care. Niji decided to keep on going afterwards and caused a Streisand Effect, now most of the internet has eyes on them.

If charlie is picking up on it (not mudahar), that means that shit has hit the fan and the particles are splattering on other parts of the net.

>>68989069
Goldman Sachs commented on it nijisister. EVERYONE knows about this shit going down.

>>68989223
holy /pol/ brain rot

that's because it is. selen is a 3000IQ mastermind playing 4d chess. she is a canadian agent dispatched by the trudeau/obamna/epstein deep state illuminati, and her goal is to destroy the innocent japanese company anycolor, because millie parfait has the emails hunter biden wrote on his cock and sent to hillary clinton

>>68989252
advertisers are funding the campaign
everyone wnats a piece of what is essentially a 2b dollar company choosing to lose ~200m to bad management

>>68989069
They are fucked cause this is how Normies will think of the company, and Normies are the ones that invest in companies. They will now avoid this shit show. This likely means Niji will have a hard time getting any investors and partnerships with brands going forward cause any google search turns up black company.

>>68989069
I wish they'd keep out of it, I hate seeing these boring fucking dramatubers that cover the lamest shit try and weasel into my hobby for some drops of content

>>68989314
Isn't Muta's cohost on his podcast literally Nux

>>68989069
A success story where everyone gets to shit on a corporation that acts like a corral of preschool children on a regular basis.
Everyone loves to see it.

They all always hop on the latest drama all at the same time, it's easy content for easy views. Don't worry about it.

>>68989069
They just look at what is getting millions of views on twitter and then make a video on that since they know its trending.

Then they see the story of woman turned to suicide from oppressive company and think its the perfect drama story.

>>68989446
Yes he even mentions that too in the video saying that's his only real tie to vtubers.

Because Nijisanji acted retarded for an entire week straight, and they fucked up so hard that their fuck up became known to normies. Selen didnt even do anything, NijiEN just fucked up that hard.

This is probably the biggest PR disaster for an internet company since that PC maker that publicly insulted its smaller affiliates

It's not every day you see a corpo go out of their way to portray themselves as full on mustache-twirling villains. They usually at least pretend not to be

>>68989069
Did you forget that he's friends with Nux?

>>68989069
Maybe don't bumblefuck yourself so massively people want to grift off of it

Anything to bring eyes to their channel

>>68989069
International incidents tend to draw attention, especially when there's a lawsuit involved and one of the parties decides to spend 15 minutes saying something other than "we will not comment on ongoing litigation"
Company CEOs personally apologizing to investors is also a rarity, especially in cases involving stuff more serious than a bunch of rich assholes making a bit less profit than they want

Because streamers are always looking to diversify their audience. This is an easy way to get asian fans to pay attention to them.

>>68989069
You shouldn't had bullied somebody then elira. Kill yourself whore.

>>68989069
They don't like vtubers, they don't watch vtubers, they hate anime, they hate Japan, they would gas all of us in a second in gas chambers for being creepy incels

BUT

They love drama and they are all here for that.

Literally this is how communities die: By getting parasites on them from outside who hate the medium and everything about it, but think they can 'change' it to fit their tastes and writhe it away from the creepy nerds who populate it now.
Which is remarkably tragic because it started as some company running out of feet to shoot.


get a good look at the kind of people you'll share vtubing with, soon. They'll be who vtubers claim is their target audience while you'll be reported to the FBI for asking for GFE, creepy incel.

>>68989503
we had the
>holo wins by doing nothing
but now we have
>niji loses as hard as they can by doing all that they can do

I'm personally loving how all this chaos is unfolding.
It'll be interesting to see what happens after all the shitstorm subsides. Either it will go back to the usual business or the vtubing landscape will change drastically.

>Josh Moon is a Nijisanji fan

>>68989622
instead of screaming at them to stop making public statement, why don't you just sit back and enjoy the show? come on mate just calm down and have fun with it.

>>68989069
>Why is a dramafag youtuber making a video on dumb melodrama?
Pretty obvious conclusion here OPchama

>>68989674
>get a good look at the kind of people you'll share vtubing with, soon. They'll be who vtubers claim is their target audience while you'll be reported to the FBI for asking for GFE, creepy incel.
this attitude has been prevalent for a while, also the problematic loli model = child sexualization shit

>>68989718
niji has teh severe issue their trust and management are under absolute scrutinity by the public
the likeliness the next niji wave will be greeted by "when is graduation" is so high i would not be surprised
nijiEN might be valued at nothing.
this debacle itself costing 150m might be more money that the EN branch could ever come to be worth

>Vtubing spawned out of... LE BAD IDOL CULTURE
How deep is Nux' dick in this pajeets ass right now?

>>68989692
If anything it makes you wonder if Nijisanji EN's mistake will be taught in university textbooks soon. Like an example of doing everything wrong in the field of online business.

>>68989069
It's like twitter, people will randomly have opinions on something they learned about 10 seconsd ago which is hilarious at times

>>68989944
He didn't call it bad but he's right that vtubers became popular because of idol culture.

>>68989069
the guy is literally a drama youtuber. what else do you think she should cover. his twitter probably got flooded like everyone elses.

>>68989229
She is laughing

>>68989382
>it is international espionage to hire a lawyer to defend oneself against corporate harassment
worker laws were made because of people like you

>>68989674
Umm, actually sweatie, vtubing has always been a diverse, inclusive space for LBTQIAHIV+ POCs, and there's never been any space for you, chuddy.

>>68989069
Considering that it's currently trending right now, of course they will make videos about it

>>68989069
All the more reason to side with Nijisanji now. I would never be caught dead agreeing with a streetshitter on anything.
Are you really going to side with Reddithar?

>>68989223
I just wonder what low-IQ brain poisoning makes someone see a board full of anime girls and think "T-this is my chance to whine about politics!!!!"

>>68990004
like the "too big to fail" thing
"too liked to be hated" might become a thing

>>68989069
it's been top trending for days on xitter

>>68989944
another retard normie shitting on idol culture? disgusting brainlets

I wonder how they feel now

>>68990166
i was trolling with bona fine real live schizoposting from /pol/
trolling, even if done ironically, is still trolling

>>68990150
But Nijisanji EN is full of poos in loos

>>68989069
All they had to do is give her a proper graduation. We would've never had any confirmation about the suicide attempt and everything would just be contained to speculation and rrats. Instead management wanted to act like tough guys and fucked around and found out.

>>68989069
Because they are content vultures that have to talk about anything that enters the internet mainstream

>>68989069
yup, it's probably Cover hiring paid shills to attack their competitor

>>68990115
It's true, here's a 2view who claims xe was trans, that means you don't mind if the next wave of vtubers are 80% trans! holotraaaaaans!

>>68990376
such is life. i wonder if doki would ever ask for a value to settle?
>>68990448
hololive wins again by doing nothing!

>>68990004
Nothing complicated to learn from the Niji debacle. Only 2 things:
-Shut up and let the legal system handle it.
-Don't act like high schoolers when doing PR.

>>68989674
This. These people are not your friend. They're vultures looking for the latest grift. They're funny now cuz they're shitting on Niji but it won't be so fun when they bitching Holo being problematic.

>>68989069
First time seeing your hobby become an algorithm cash cow? You spammed it enough on twitter to give it an audience for them to make more money off it.

>>68989069
Is /vt/'s contrarian genes gonna kick in now that the mainstream have caught wind of the NijiEN shitshow

>>68990115
I know this is a shitpost but the earliest vtubers were all sweaty nerds or wannabe VAs and both were straight.

>>68990665
They already did,
>>68990044

>>68989069
It was orchestrated by doki, she opened up preorders for merch before the christmas song was even uploaded. This whole thing was a stunt to jumpstart her solo career.

>selen tatsookie

>>68989674
>forgetting half of NijiEN are the ones pushing woke culture in the west
lmao
lol, even

>>68989069
when you fuck up so bad it's all trending on X for a week even normies start talking about it.
They use X.com too you know.

>>68989069
I dunno man, giant streamer conglomerate with some of the highest earning streamers in the world not that more than 2% of the earnings will ever get to them has it's whole English speaking branch turn into a dumpster fire and people in the streamer online spaces start talking about it. You guys didn't cry about how ridiculous they were when Salome blew up enough for them to cover it, so why do it now?

Is this it? Is Niji finally going mainstream? HOLY SHIT BIG SUCCESS FOR THE COMPANY!

>>68990313
Court documents naming half a dozen street shitter managers is going to be hilarious

Hey, it seems like Pomu's wish of Niji being more known in the west came true!

>>68990874
x?
why are you going to a porn site to chat?

>>68989069
I'm watching the video and his exasperation while attempting to describe just who these guys are is hilarious.

>>68990665
It’s just the NDF grasping at straws.

>>68989069
Yeah, mumei use her 1 mil wish to burn down niji EN because they bully her friend until she breakdown and try kill heraelf...

>>68990772
Such is the fate of any board in this site

>>68989343
Ok but source?

Why is it always that uninformed faggot Nux that drama normalfags go to?

>>68991169
Nux reaches out and content is content

>>68989069
Did anyone watch the video? Does he drag vtubers as a whole or just Nijisanji

>>68990115
This is literally true though, every girl in hololive is a lesbian

>>68989069
> GoodSmile is a vtuber company
Naruhodo. Who even told him that?

>>68989399
>Nijisanji
>A "company" whose sole purpose it to make virtual anime girls who look cute
>2B USD valuation

"Doing tricks on it dud, blowing bubbles on it, HAHAHAHHAHAH" - Hasan Piker

>>68990448
Hololive is always painted as being incompetent, but when something bad happens to 2434 all of a sudden Cover is a secret cabal with highly efficient worldwide espionage resources. You monkeys are shameless.

>>68991169
Its probably because the dude is connected to people outside of the vtubing scene. I dont know if even False or Khyo have the kinds of connections that Nux does.

fuck you selenfags for dragging more normalfags into this schizo fanbase

>>68991169
He did his own research and actually was only shitting on Nijisanji

>>68991274
He says that he sees people calling Nijisanji is a black company, then continues to say that after looking more into niji, that all corpos should be avoided. He's not critical on vtubers but corpos themselves.

>>68989069
Anybody who talks about this outside the vtuber circle isn't "normal" they're massive, massive fucking dramafags. I mean who does that? Stalks twitter for random drama to get involved in from the outside. Massive fucking dramafags that's who.

>>68989069
This is on the same level or bigger than the biggest shitfests from any streamer/tuber garbage companies, flesh or virtual. As bad or worse than the worst things to come out of Channel Awesome or Achievement Hunter. Of course normies latch onto it, it's the drama bait equivalent of putting a full PB&J sandwich in front of a mouse and not even arming a mousetrap.

>>68989500
>hate-boner for abuse
>co-host is one of the biggest facilitators and instigators of abuse
rumao

>>68991427
His research is already pretty bad if he named GSC as a vtuber company

>>68991341
>Hasan Piker
Isn't he busy dickriding Monkey D. Houthi

>>68989069
Muda and Charlie are both friends with Huggbees, and Hugbees is long time friends with Gunrun and Monkeyism. Take from that what you will.

>>68990079
Let me get this straight: You think niji's reputation crashing and burning in real time is funny?

>>68989069
>mentioned apostrophegate
kek

>>68991555
yes, and i am tired of pretending it isnt

>>68989069
This shitshow has gotten bad enough that even other corpos like Hololive are gonna start catching strays from people just wanting to jump in the slander bandwagon

>>68989069
imagine getting gangbanged by bunch of normalfag tourist

>>68991662
mumei took a break to be with selen
nerissa just had a random chat about bullying
it happened already

it fascinates me how people are so invested with internet dramas. i only read a few sentences and i'm done with it

>>68991662
He didn't say anything bad about Hololive though. He mentioned that after looking into Nijisanji, that all corpos should be avoided because from his own experience, "talent agencies" are all naturally exploitive environments anyway. He even admits he isn't in that culture so he's just basing it off of his own knowledge.

>>68990893
Imagine believing vTubers make more money than xQc, Adin Ross, KaiCenat, et al

>>68989069
>tectone shittalking the situation
the gachafags knows...
how are we ever gonna get their money now?

>>68990448
that is some pathetic cope.

>>68991555
NTA but at this point, yes. People even outside of vtubing will use this as a textbook example of how not to handle a contractor or an employee leaving their company.

>>68991864
its great background sound
you eventually hear this outstanding dumb thing and when it hits you it just makes you laught

>>68989069
His video was way worse than, I hate to say it, the penguin fags.

that's why this board is extra shit today

>>68989069
Blackrock hostile takeover

>>68991387
meanwhile the only company who needs to hire shitposters to defend themselves is activision and niji

>>68989069
asmongold is covering it because he owns OTK/Mythic Entertainment and has openly expressed that he wants all japanese streamer companies to be shut down because they have a "shitty uncivilized gorilla culture that legally allows creepy loli"
of course he said he isn't xenophobic afterwards by the way

>>68991387
Hololive is incompetent in a way that makes you go "man these people are dumb."
Nijisanji is incompetent in a way that makes you believe they're malicious and psychopathic.

>>68990448
Asmon was attacking cover as well

>>68991539
Yeah but hemakes more money doing that than your oshi ever will

>>68991662
Just a couple of days ago people wondered why Cover needs to have 21% of staff work in Agency Management. I think we will see the reason for that soon.

>>68989069
Drama tubers will talk about anything that's blowing up on 4chan and then by extension reddit and twitter. They don't give a fuck and any other day of the week they would be mocking you. All they care about is engagement. The best part is that you'll see a huge surge in newfags that will play with their new toy until it's thoroughly trampled and then move onto the next flavor of the week. They'll claim that they ALWAYS watched vtubers and it's ALWAYS been their hobby but they're incredibly easy to pick out.

any new info in this video or can i just wait for asmongold to react to it so i can also not watch that.

The fact that Goldman Sachs made a statement and all the e-celebs who are under a single company run by a jew are covering it isn’t suspicious at all
Don’t connect it to the new Yakuza being pozzed and Blackrock moving into Japan

>>68992554
idk what you're talking about, the best part of my day every day is watching gura's stream

>>68992383
His legs will never be as big as my oshis

>>68992118
>oh no a trainwreck
>all my shit is on that train
>oh no they collided
>what the fuck where is that wagon going
>jesus where is that blood coming from
>oh my god i did not knew you could fit so many people parts on the roof of a train
>what the fuck where did that fire came from?
>was that a fucking explosion???
>wait who put that orphanage there???
>the nuns dont have time to evacuate the orphanage!
>IS THAT FUCKING JOHN CENA?
you are here
>WAIT GOKU KRILLIN IS ON THE OTHER TRAIN

>>68989159
spbp

>>68992681
Yeah

>>68989069
Shit companies with shit drama deserve to get farmed for views by normalfags

>>68992372
There is a good chance the agency he's signed with is putting together a vtuber corpo.

>>68990779
>Forced management to respond in a completely braindead way over and over.
She truly is lex luthor's girlfriend

>>68992619
So the globohomo is making its move...

>>68991537
I mean to be fair Opera and PlayAsia both have vTubers as mascots so I can kinda see how he may have gotten confused and though GSC was also in the business of vTubing

When you're giving a master class performance in how to not handle a PR situation, everyone is going to notice.

>>68989223
rent free

>>68991452
BASED

>>68989223
>This is Trump's fault
Get help

>>68992868
He owns the agency that has Nyanners and Vei in it

>>68989069
mutahar and doki are both canadian they're goverment agents

>>68992868
Isn't a "corporate structure" the antithesis of what vtubers under mythic talent want?

>>68992868
>>68992372
tbqh the mythic has a pretty good model because they can just work with any content creator including other VT groups
dont think we will get a asmon-funded VT group
world of warcraft would not survive a 40 man raid being led by asmon and 39 VT livers

>>68990855
That's just bitter narcissists like the kind to think being woke is a personality to begin with being incapable of functioning without kid gloves.
That doesn't mean the other narcissists are your friend. Narcissists are narcissists because they're bitter opportunists who think of themselves as the most important person in the universe. They see this as an opportunity to profit and will move in like they did on Movies and Video Games.

>>68992868
Keep that cringe faggot away. We don't need 10 more puddle deep lewdtubers.

>>68992011
holy shit he is brutal
forget the gacha crownd niji sisters this shit is literally over

>>68991137
there was a thread this week

>>68989069
It's a David v. Goliath story that's extremely rage inducing, who wouldn't pick this shit up?

They report on anything that blows up twitter, this is just today's bread.

In Moist and Asmond's case, they've dabbled in vtuber news quite a bit already and/or have vtuber friends.

>>68989510
And there goes the wewole!!!

>>68990261
They can't speak about it because their mouths are full of Riku's fat nuts.

>>68989069
>getting a revenue while covering a shitty company
I don't see any problem

>>68989674
would desu

>>68992868
https://www.mythictalent.com/mythic-talent-vtuber-creators he's not just signed with them, he's part owner of the parent org

>>68992619
SOURCE ON GOLMAN SACHS COMMENT??? I NEED TO CROSSPOST IT TO >>>/biz/ for analysis

>>68989223
Go back to /pol/ woketard

>>68992372
No he didn't you liar

>>68989510
You mean the other company that Asmon publicly attacked and then came out with a competitor(Starforge)?
This whole thing is a grift, even his anti-japanese racism, he's shit talking cover corp for having lolicon culture because he wants to have Nyanners and Aethel helm the new vtuber group

>>68989692
niji loses so hard they are dragging the entire vtubing industry down with the sheer turdery

>>68989427
same

>>68989223
Rent free.

>>68993671
>Asmon
rent free

>>68993517
>tfw I imagine an op post of nijiEn situation on /biz/
>"nijiEN is collapsing, how can I make money off this?"
KEK

>>68989069
It cuts into their viewership and profits. If they can redirect any retards away from vtubers to them they'll do it.

>>68993085
>>68993508
My mistake.

>>68990094
Those damn teamsters unions stole money from that UPS corporation and he hates that.

Imagine if Asmongold started pushing his Mythic vtubers after this shitfest

>>68993508
I didn't realize they had that many at this point?

>>68993657
He was, he said in multiple videos
>these vtuber companies are on a spectrum, ninisanji or whatever the fuck is just the worst, but the others are bad as well
>this japanese culture bullshit people defend is dogshit, these are bad companies and bad cultures, there are things i think is good about japanese culture, like family stuff, especially compared to over here, but the loli stuff and the idol bullshit, i think weird, gross and i think it's harmful

>>68989069
Because they plan to make all vtubing western v tubing

>>68989069
>Talent almost died
>Multiple talents leaving in a short period, likely more to come
>Clique rrat confirmed
>Management retarded enough that the branch collapsing and merging the remnants with main is not out of the question
Unironically a NijiEN 7th Trumpet event

>>68993836
https://twitter.com/Grxit/status/1751001460463054929

>>68989069
>jews got scared of losing against japanese vtubing corpos
It's over for vtubing lads.

>>68989069
It's because Amerimutts have nothing else to talk about. No blockbuster film to hate, their recent games like that feminist capeshit and that shitty sci-fi game immediately went to shit, ofc no cartoon show and no comic. They cant talk about anything Amerimutt now. The are trying to expand their targets to Japan to be offended. There are no differences between anti woke youtubers and sjw journos like Kotaku anymore. They know nothing about vtubers or Japan and yet are fake offended by it.

So how many of you just refuse to acknowledge vtubing is a mainstream norm ever since streaming websites got flooded with amateurs and indies over the last 2 years? It hasn't been some niche japanese pop culture spin off in quite a while now.
Should have gatekept better. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

>>68994111
It happened really fast

>>68994111
I want to go back.

>>68993836
He's making videos shitting on ALL vtuber companies in his grift videos on nijisanji while he owns a direct streamer corp competitor
He's also shit talking Japan as a culture

>>68994096
This.
Also envy. They see this big new thing and think:"im not in the center of attention anymore, it's not about me, this needs to change. Idol culture bad because it makes me feel irrelevant".

>>68994111
I stopped gatekeeping and learned Japanese. Moonrunes will always be the final boss these parasites can never defeat.

>>68993838
Well no shit, that's literally what I mean/want to know LMAO

>>68993836
butthurt asmongold simp detected, imagine caping for some cuckold

>>68989069
I hate this dumb faggot. Like many other Pajeet-Americans, he has the most annoying face, voice, and takes and has one of the most inflated egos of any dramatuber. I would repeatedly spit on this guy's head if I saw him on the street.

>>68989069
>12 seconds in
>see Nux
>close the video
Fucking piece of shit, anyone that gets info from him already has a skewed perception of the industry.

>>68989069
It's called Karma, it's a bitch and I hate her but it is what it is.

>>68989069
>normalfag youtubers
redundant

>>68991137

>>68989069
Everyone who tries to sink the yacht is an ally. Also, decent video, the only L take in it is that it seems that he still contemplates the possibility that Niji might change for better. I was like that once too.

>>68994718
GOOD, that's the CORRECT perception of the industry to have.

>>68991137
https://twitter.com/eviltape/status/1755666487166333335
The
>we see minimal impact on companywide earnings
still cracks me up.

>>68990263
extremely based

>>68989622
>Company CEOs personally apologizing to investors is also a rarity
Yes, I think it's the first time I've seen something like that.

I warned you about EN vtubers bros
Don't watch them but it seems like HoloEN's the only big corpo who's sailing relatively smoothly compared to the others

>>68991524
It's totally different he's just a citizen journalist bringing news to the masses trust me he even says "don't bully these people" in the video maybe.

>>68994772
It seems that the effect of the drama is negligible.

>>68989674

>>68992747
spfb

>>68994772
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ??????????? IT REALLY IS 2016 ALL OVER AGAIN *HONK HONK*

I can't believe Pekora is going as far as to hire big normie youtubers to crash the EN market just so everyone can forget about the fact she bought a facking monkey

>>68995026
why do you talk like a retard

>>68989692
kino

>>68994799
Wait, nevermind, I thought it was Charlie video, I need to go to sleep. Haven't watched this one yet.

Not the first time Indians are shitting on Nijisanji

>>68989069
i've been telling people since jp that vtubers should never be let loose on the west, their "freedom" culture is completely different from japan.

western vtuber was and will always be a mistake.

>>68989069
It’s like Amber Heard vs. Jonny Depp.
Even if you don’t give a shit about celebrities, that thing was such a massive shitshow and it was so blatantly obvious to normies and anyone who wasn’t a delusional “ALWAYS BELIEVE WAHMEN” liberal who was in the right.

Except in this case even the hard line liberals are on doki’s side because it fits their “Japan bad” narrative.

Literally the only people I see not on Selen’s side are hardline sisters who huffed too much estrogen flavored copium and Japanese Corpo bootlickers (most of Japan).

>>68995101
Doesn't really matter until Karl Jobst or Coffeezilla gets involved.

>>68992619
Nijisanji is the last stand against international jewry?

>>68991555
Yes

>>68989069
Do you know "bigmotor"? I didn't knew about this company existence until they fucked up so bad that they showed up all over the place. Same thing, once you fucks up this bad there's no return.

>>68995039
asmongold was shitting on hololive as well m8, he said all the vtuber companies are on a spectrum of bad and that the loli shit is weird and gross and he wants it banned

>>68995150
as expected of the racRySt

>>68989069
Total Nijien Death. fuck you Vox you retarded faggot

>>68992383
Yes, and Taylor Swift makes more money than any of them by putting out shit music. Doesn't change the fact she's a dumb cunt and Hasan is a retarded faggot.

>>68995451
It wouldn't be believable if she made Asmon pretend he knew what the fuck he was talking about

>>68992734
*rapes and beheads you*

>>68995150
basedRyS

>>68995639
he owns mythic entertainment which has contracts with many vtubers, i get you're memeing but the normalfags are using the niji drama to kill japanese vtubing

>ass mongoloid
>peepeepoopoo man
>sumitomedia at home
Any more ecelebs I should know about?

NijiEN is just as bad as these eceleb westoid mutts. Hating one is not mutually exclusive with hating the other.

>>68995806
And it'll fail, it will ultimately just kill vtubing in the west and Pekora will come out as victorious

>>68989069
beautiful is it not

>>68989069
Normalniggers are addicted to drama

>>68995816
midget jesus

>>68993382
hot

>>68989692
>Hololive CEO
Congratulates Pekorabbit for being the most watched streamer of 2023.
>Nijisanji CEO
Makes a lousy corporate PR speech after losing a bunch of investors

Niji's incompetence shows no bounds.

>>68993508
>A whole list of 90% literal whos
Good job asmongoy, you totally aren't exploiting the 2 view chuubas under your corpo not corpo agency.

>>68996129
lmao

>>68989735
Sauce?

>>68991032
based moom

>>68996208
just wait until he starts fucking one after his current onlyfans findom GF ditches him.

>>68996129
>>68996262
What was Nijisanji doing during the Taiwan yab?

>>68989069
>it almost feels orchestrated
Why are you so schizo and retarded. Any niche that has an incident blows up large enough eventually reaches mainstream appeal. If anything was ever going to do that since Taiwan, it would be this dumpster fire. Everyone loves a good dumpster fire.

>>68996412
Damn, Mythic contracts are fucking vile.

>>68991452
>>68993038
cringe

>>68994111
How do you gatekeep Miko saying nigga?

>>68989069
My big takeaway from all this is that everyone is way too terminally online.

>>68996570
I spent all day reading about this shit... I want my day back...

>>68995953
Peko peko peko

>>68991601
nice

>>68989674
based

>>68992262
rent free

>>68994111
I've honestly considered vtubing mainstream since Coco brought Redditors and normalfags into the hobby en masse with her Reddit reviews. Myth only solidified what was growing.

>>68992619
>the new Yakuza being pozzed
what?

>>68996903
https://youtu.be/qNidS5s4UFs?t=17

>>68993671
>and then
Only took a couple of years!

>>68989069
Dramafags farming drama. And they don't even have to know anything since their audience doesn't know anything. Dramafags get clout and their audience confirms their bias that's all there is to it.

>>68997044
NTA but
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20230201-26517/
>We perform checks for unintended derogatory or discriminatory language, religious issues, etc., and then we fix the issues in the original script.
>In other words, there are no differences between the Japanese version and overseas versions.
So you can't even get around it by just playing in Japanese.

>nornies hate nijisanji now
Guess it's okay to like Nijisanji now.

>>68994623

>>68993981
>everything is a grift except some onlyfans whore doing a solo fetish bait video is real and character defining
The internet is a weird place.

>>68996570
eh i just watch the parrot do that for me.

it feels so fake seeing all the normies pile in and I'm honestly sick of all this drama over nothing, stupid cunt nearly offs herself then has then balls to get pissy over the fact management had to make this fact known, that isn't "leaking" anything, she ain't a victim, she's a problem child who was cut loose. People with actual problems with the company are being ignored in favor of this grifter pro-China communist.

>>68997261
whoa nelly, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

>>68995064
Because I literally cannot believe one of the world's top financial firms, one that basically controls the whole world, commented on a rando company who's main purpose is to simply make cute anime waifus.

I actually checked the penguinfag's video just to see how he covers it and uh
https://youtu.be/90FPv7OwMX0?si=OhaRrZBCmJpSYxnF&t=1003
>talking about the nijisanji 2% revenue split
>"and what's even crazier is I know they're not the only one that do that to their talent. in the vtuber space, I have seen some very unfair deals"
he barely knows anything about vshojo, since he explicitly says that VTuber agencies systematically own the rights to the live2d models
he also have zero reason to care about 2-3view agencies
so... who leaked their holo contracts to him?

>>68997369
subhuman scum

>>68989069
Do you not realize the magnitude of this yab? It's colossal. Of course normalfag youtubers are going to pick up on it. It's kinda funny actually. Kurosanji's reputation is completely in the gutter.

>>68997260
not wanting your game to offend people when sold to other markets isn't new, retard.

>>68990448
It's more likely that niji is paying paid shills to shit on them with how retarded they are acting.

>>68993947
To be fair, the retard doesn't know what hololive is. I mean, since when is Ninisanji an idol company? this guy is never going to stop being a redneck

>>68990448
This might not be a good thing for Cover either. Between all the different drama videos, there's probably millions of normies who are now aware of the evil Japanese companies who own their vtubers, and some of them will want to change things.

>>68994096
bingo

>>68997527
maybe, but at least I'm not an ESL who threw a tantrum over the use of the word negligible when it wasn't even meant for the public to see. Shit is insane on both sides.

>>68997470
Even people that know nothing about vtubers have heard of the WACTOR drama.

>>68997812
I'm on /vt/ every other day and apart from knowing drama occurred I didn't really hear anything about it.

>>68997580
Why do you keep saying that when it isn't true? all vtuber companies use the idol model despite any bullshit claims. It's how the industry itself works

>>68995024
?

>>68997371
>rando company
That doesn't exist in the world of finance.

>>68996444
What, you don't remember Roa and the girl who put in her graduation notice three times and graduated on the third while trying to rescind that notice and was forced to graduate on the third time WHILE bullying Roa over something as retarded as dialect/accent? They still exploit Roa to this day and are definitely not putting her voice into AI to make voice packs for the gullible retards out there.

>>68995166
Nijisanji was always shit

>>68997794
negligible subhuman scum

>>68998255
it started ok.
wish it had just stayed ok.

>>68993671
Kyo is almost certainly going to reappear in Mythic. Aethel said he was really happy he's going indie, and Tectone said he's an amazing entertainer and that he's going to do well after leaving.

>>68997920
Cliffs notes version:
>Favoritism
>Bad cuts
>Refused to pay talents
>Attempted to extort ungodly amounts of money from them when they quit
>Attempted to sue them when they refused to pay fees for quitting
>Posted court documents online so people could see talents' legal names and rough locations
Every asshole move that they could do, they did.

>>68997260
I thought you were talking about the real yakuza

>>68989069
Because it is, this is a west vs east thing(inb4 americucks with their "I have the right to not do my job properly at work and still get paid"™ bullshit). This is how low vtubing has come and the retards here in love with their "but shes based" western "vutber" are all to blame. I know I wasn't the only one that saw the red flags when the first niji EN dropped, but by then the clipchimps had already inundated the medium with secondaries. Fast forward to 2024 and you have a western whore that goes on a rampage because she does not know how to follow basic instructions, probably because she never had a job, throws her friends under the buss and starts a cashgrab pity party. She know she can get away with it due to current state of the medium. Notice how the jp livers are doing as good as ever? No because this whole black company bullshit is astroturfed to hell by useful mouthbreathers that cant even name a non western non holo/jp liver.
You get what you fucking deserve.

>>68998505
I believe you, I just don't believe this is what cr1tikal is talking about when he says the major agencies have exploitative deals. He also says right afterwards that the deal he's seen isn't AS bad as Nijisanji but still bad. What you're describing sounds even worse

>>68998034
>all vtuber companies use the idol model despite any bullshit claims
cope

>>68997311
>caught red-handed
>panics
kek

>>68998660
>I have the right to not do my job properly at work and still get paid
Real quote from Nijisanji management when they refused to adequately pay creators for anything in Selen's MV and then claimed ownership over it anyway.

>>68998468
>it started ok.
yeah

>>68989069
>It's a big, ongoing drama with developments almost daily
>It's a clear good Vs evil story
>It features an underdog fighting an international corporation
>Covering it gives lots of clicks
There couldn't be a more perfectly engineered drama, the fact that it's about vtubers is tangential, big drama gets lots of clicks which generates lots of ad revenue, simple as that

>>68989069
i fucking hate e-celebs, SPECIALLY e-celebs who used to do their niche thing but then started doing reaction and drama talk videos about things they dont know shit about. Mutahar used to make interesting videos about obscure tech shit, Critikal used to make dubbed commercials and speedruns, now they both shit out the same slop.

>>68989069 (OP)
Yeah I'm thinkin g Hololive won this one bros

>>68998848
>>caught red-handed
What the hell are you talking about? That moron is not the topic of the thread.I don't care about that redneck Neckbeard's opinions

>>68998861
You forgot the part when she told her simps "management took it down :( please reupload" and she omitted the fact that it was actually under review due to copyright issues and it including an ex talent

>>68999114
You're on a board that is about nothing but e-celebs.

>>68999293
yeah but they are e-celebs i like

>>68999264
>copyright issues
None of them, how would they know anyway since they didn't do shit? It was cleared for copyright.
>ex talent
Oh noes who gives a shit

>>68999114
yes, they are all sell-outs

>>68999114
>slop
most self-aware pyrocynical viewer

>>68989069
Most vtuber fans are children who are also subscribed to these video essay drama channels

>>68999510
who the fuck is pyrocynical

>>68996444
laughed at hololive. banned all interaction and collab with holo.

>>68999679
e-celeb

>>68998743
When the 2% merch cut news originally broke, Kson came out with this statement: https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1656314005458411521
The wording implies that this was her cut in the past. As in, when she was in Hololive. It's also notable that Kson actually thought a 50% cut was unfair. Which says a lot about the egotism of content creators. There's no telling how "bad" the other deals actually are when anything but 100% would be low to some of these people. If he's not willing to drop names, or at least numbers, then he's effectively saying nothing at all.

>>68998743
He deals in drama and talks to everyone, it could be literally any of them.

>>68994096
>sjw journos like Kotaku
Did you crawl out of a portal from 2014? Who cares about Kotaku anymore?

>>68999743
Gura is rich with these numbers

>>68998660
>corpo apologist comes in
Cry about it, cause clearly to you all that matters is your precious japanese corpo getting dragged.

>>68999392
>Possibly making ad revenue by including the likeness of an ex talent
You might not give a shit but they have to do everything in their power to not be legally liable, even if they have no reason to believe that they will be. Regardless, all she had to do was wait, the ball was on her court + the black company narrative was already spreading. She could have literally made niji take all the blame during the wait and nothing would have happened.

>>68999846
nta but that was just an example

HEY pomu dream did came true at the end LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

>>68990115
This isn't even a shitpost for EN Vtubing. It's actual fact.

>>68994096
>"i dont know shit about this, their culture, how they work or what happened to reach this point"
>"but im gonna get offended by it"
yes anon that's what the whole west all about, only few can break out of this retarded mindset, yet there are still enough of them that you can generalize it.

>>68999249
and the cuck doesn't answer me, in the end he was the one who was caught red-handed.

>>68999883
That's probably why she doesn't stream much anymore. And I'm not saying that as an anti. I wouldn't put in much effort working if I was a multi-millionaire in my 20s either. She definitely has enough money comfortably retire on right now. So any streams or projects she does are purely for passion.

>>68999889
>corpo bad
>immature narcisist good

>>68998660
misteru Riku prease stoppu the rurking on basketu weaving forum

>>69000166
Don't pretend that the Japanese are better, right now they are defending the company because they don't know what happened.

>>69000280
yes

>>69000367
Good. atleast they are actual vtuber fans and not some bandwagoner.

>>69000367
>unironic western imperialist savior complex

>>68993947
he's not wrong
some of these vtubers are put on a pedestal as idols undeservedly, and when they do sing and dance and uplift and make people geniunely happy, it's great
but when they don't, they absolutely don't deserve the term idol. that'd be an insult to the idols out there who literally bust their butts to perform and do idol things. instead we have these terrible canadian shit-stirrers whose talents are what, be quirky and weird behind some moving pngs, and you can't really blame them for doing that because retards eat it up anyway

>>68999846
you'd be surprised how many people here are oldfag /pol/tards still fighting old dead boogeymen of the past. how many times have you heard the depp vs heard thing these days as well?

>>68989069
Kinda interesting how he left out any evidence that may affect the narrative that Selen or that would make her being put in a bad light, like her insubordinating against management and asking her fans to reupload the video or her recording people without consent.

>>69000575
Anglos can't help themselves when it comes to telling other cultures they are wrong

>>69000725
>who cares if whores ruined gaming and anime just consoom, don't say anything about it

>>69000526
nta. But did you know how many japanese non-vtuber fans came out to add fuel when drama happened in the JP vtubing scene? same shit, retard.

>>68992372
asmon is a braindead shut in who attacks anything he's fed by chat before he even knows what he's talking about. xqc is more socially competent than he is.

>>68997470
He pulled it out his ass
Many such react tuber cases
grim

>>69000927
nta, but better to have japanese people than westoids so shut the fuck up.

>>68989069
>Vtuber culture that originate from japanese Idol culture

Man I fucking hate when normalfags spread lies about the things I like, just to critique those things.

What a piece of shit.

>>68989069
i'm very tempted to say that americans, espcially CANADIANS, have no place to talk about eastern pop culture trends like anime

fuck this leafjet

>>69001095
HES A LEAF?????
GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED GET RAKED

>>68999679
critikal-lite but who also does high quality video essays

>>69000575
>>69000526
newfags, we always hate fans of this company

>>69001028
We'll see. This is actually not the first time he's mentioned it. If he keeps bringing it up, he's eventually going to be asked to back it up, and then things might get juicy.

>>69001654
>we

>>68989069
what are you even saying now nijiintern?
normalfags somehow made the clique, the nijisanji twitter account and riku tazmania embarrass themselves yesterday in front of thousands and give them content in a silver plate?
God, you browns are so stupid...

>>69001336
I've only heard about him because he's a pedo or something.

>>69001011
>xqc is more socially competent than he is.
kek based

>>68999743
>>68999743
I think people are also looking at what streamers he's interacted with, or are at least big enough that he might have.
That isn't how this stuff works. If he was genuinely close to one, maybe, but they're the most careful about this shit because they're the most visible. More likely some staffer gave a ballpark range to some friend in the industry and the number just circulated until it got to Charlie. There are a lot of open secrets like that, everyone recruiting for a corpo or talent agency knows when a rival picks someone up, and they all want to know what the others are offering so they can tell talents they'll beat it.

>>69001708
yes,don't pretend to be a holochad.

>>69001719
He's not a pedo, just a degen furry

>>69001719
based pyro

>>69001973
>holochad
i like vtubers in both holo and nijiJP, dont associate me with you EN only cunts.

>>69002084
yes, you are a newfag.go back to /jp/

>>68999743
she was talking about vshojo because her contract had recently changed, stupid nigger.

>>69002212
you are trying too hard anonchama...

>>69002326
you bore me, newfag.

>>69001719
a pedo and a furry, apparently he managed to defend himself because he was just doing RP with someone he didnt know was underage

>>69002251
>was making less at hololive
>vshojo offers her 50%
>she believes this is worth bitching over
Anon, that's not even remotely believable. She wouldn't be bitching about making more than her last job. She would be happy to have a better cut than she previously got.

>>69002076me
>>69001992
>>69002606
I take back what I said, he is cringe

>>69001654
>t. was never in jp

>>69002872
Following your logic, it means that vshojo pays her more than 50%.

>>69003193
Yes I think so. I wasn't making a slight against Vshojo here. No need to try to defend them from nonexistent enemies.

>>69003175
you guys are seriously boring me.
this will always be a holoboard, go back to /jp/.

>>69003490
I was trying to understand what you said, don't worry

>>69003584
>he doesn't know

>>68989069
Everyone in the western sphere is dumping on nijisanji
EVERYONE
https://twitter.com/FlorkOfCows/status/1757390530911076469?t=lwBGe7eGYH5KuUBodAGcDw&s=19