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68952612 No.68952612 [Reply] [Original]

Why do Hololive's overseas branches work out better than Niji's?
Besides the China shit I mean.
I don't think it's the male collabs even ID is the most Homocollab tolerant branch but they have basically the least drama. Do Niji just hire any fucking moron to be a manager? Do they just ignore the other branches completely?

>> No.68952817

>>68952612
>Do Niji just hire any fucking moron to be a manager?
Unironically yes, that is if they're lucky to have a manager that can even speak english

>> No.68952942

>>68952612
they have good senpai and follow their example
they succeeded DESPITE shitty management for like 3 years

>> No.68953110

>>68952612
Do they? Pretty sure that EN was in a bad spot about a year ago. Cover is probably just better hiding it + the girls have better pay/terms than niji

>> No.68953129

>>68952612
Hololive has actual management and hires quality people.

Nijisanji has no management and hires whores from psych ward (Selen)

>> No.68953307

>>68952612
People tend to be nicer when they make 7 digits a year

>> No.68953328

>>68952612
They are salaried, get a larger percentage of profit from fan support, middle management speaks and understands their language, cooperation among talents is encouraged instead of competition...

>> No.68953439

>>68952612
Holo had dramas with Tempus homos being forced upon fanbase.
They responded by firing whoever was in charge, had A-chan took control for a while, before hiring Jap guy. Yagoo also went overseas to get a better understanding of the situation.
Riku apologize to INVESTORS, and only when shit hit the bottom line.

>> No.68953577

>>68952612

Cover pays more, including a base salary, allows active roommates, and gets competent managers that ACTUALLY SPEAK ENGLISH.

No shit they are doing better, just basic "have everybody do their jobs and pay more money" means that they both have less fuck ups and more leeway for the fuck ups they DO have.

>> No.68953755

>>68952612
Hololive has more staff per talent. People thought Holo had too many managers but it turns out niji has too few of them.

>> No.68953818

>>68952612
>Why do Hololive's overseas branches work out better than Niji's?
No males.

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>>68952612
>The chinese destroy a Holo branch and get people to graduate/get terminated
>The chinese destroy a Niji branch and get people to graduate/get terminated
One company pulled out of china, guess which has the least drama.

>> No.68955149

>>68952612
thankfully, myth didn't turn into typical twitch streamers who got their shit tangled up in drama, politics, etc. they're different, but definitely tied themselves to the JP branch.

contrast with nijien. niji on the other hand, with their desperate attempt to saturate the market (actual niji strategy). they hired as much people as possible. but they've forgone setting the proper infrastructure (managers, etc.) for EN side and let the asylum patients run around with mostly minimal supervision. it gave the impression that nijien was less restrictive, but actually they're just not being managed properly. they also go about it with least effort, so they just support the golden children (i.e. favoritism). they've allowed the company culture to be vey toxic essentially. and when the inane managers now try to exert power on select matters every now and then, it's like there's a big disconnect and contrast. they allowed the members to muddy themselves in drama, politics, in-fighting, etc. like typical twitch streamers, when part of the managements job is to manage their talents' brands. infusing drama and politics is generally brand-damage to an agency talent, unless that's what they were really going for. which is stupid. they also hard-appealed to a certain demographic consisting largely of females with left-leaning bent, who are frankly like chinese fans in terms of toxicity in any community when they're not the dominant voice or being pandered to. you can imagine the consequences. most of the loudest collab beggars between male and female in holo were actually from the same set of audiences that luxiem pandered to. they saw it as a crusade and were moralistic about it. saw niji as the ideal so they sought to make themselves the dominant voice in holo as well.

tl;dr: holo had better senpai models and management they followed. niji fucked up their management and direction.

>> No.68955272

>>68952612
It's amazing how Omega was a fucking piece of trash, idiot chuuni loser and likely a tranny sexpest
YET HE WAS BETTER THAN NIJIEN MANGEMENT

>> No.68955367

>>68952612
>Why do Hololive's overseas branches work out better than Niji's?
Cover is more willing to make changes to management with their foreign branches. HoloEN was having recurring "health" breaks in 2022 so eventually Cover replaced the EN project manager. That may not sound important but that most likely prevented several EN graduations. Nijisanji on the other hand will always side with NijiEN management. The work environment for the EN livers kept getting more toxic until the recent crisis.

>> No.68955378

>>68952612
Holos have more to lose so they won't do rebellious things like uploading a video despite management saying to wait.

>> No.68955653

>>68955378
Probably shouldn't push and corner a liver to the point of open rebellion in the first place

>> No.68955990

>>68955378
nice deflection sister. doesn't explain past talents being pleasantly surprised at having actually good managers. or them taking other jabs at niji once they're out (e.g. play button).

>> No.68956095

>>68952612
Cover is run by an experienced businessman who is familiar with how things work both in Japan and internationally.
Anycolor is run by a trust fund baby with multiple failed businesses who has never left his country.

>> No.68956121

The girls in holoen who don't get along just avoid each other completely.

>> No.68956271

>better than Niji's
Why is Vshojo Japan always forgotten on the topic like this?

>> No.68956306

>>68952612
they have the fucking M-chan (aka Gita), she was there from the start. she managed two talents (risu and moona) that didnt have a clue about being a streamer.
When ID1 lived together in some kind of dorm, she lived with them too. she treated the talents, especially ID1 like queens.
and have i said she managed risu? i love risu to death, but my god, that girl doesnt have work ethic whatsoever.
basically, M-chan is HER.

>> No.68956414

>>68956271
Because they barely exist, They're basically just a couple of indies.

>> No.68956483

>HoloEN
JAP MAN

>NijiEN
Microsoft tech support

>> No.68957587

>>68952612
Unicorn god protection
No homo No drama

>> No.68957646

>>68952612
Because they prevent homo collab

>> No.68957712

>>68952612
because omega is gone, holo would have gone a similar route minus the organ bulling

>> No.68957758

>>68952612
Unicornchads prevent the Nijification
They are best fanbase hololive ever have

>> No.68957956

>>68952612
Homobegging = drama
They drive unicornchad out and bring only homobeggar into their fanbase

Now homobeggar want to destroy hololive too

>> No.68958075

>>68952612
Even their JP branch is better.
Compare the Chris situation to Mirei. Even though Chris was unhinged as fuck Cover treated the termination with more respect than Nijisanji terminating over a fucking baseball joke that equates to an 'Is he stupid?' meme.

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>>68952612

Luxiem

It's really that simple. Luxiem and the kind of fans they brought ruined everything.

>> No.68958192

>>68952612
>Niji just hire any fucking moron to be a manager? Do they just ignore the other branches completely?

Yes. Yagoo wasn't just some newfag ceo like the yacht boy. Before Hololive he was a legit business leader for other ip.

>> No.68958697

>>68952612
Cover actually invests in their talents. Niji squeezes their talents for every penny that they are worth without caring about their wellbeing.

>> No.68959478

>>68952612
I think Holo's managers are, or at least were, just as shit as Niji's are. But it sounds like the talents at least have enough sway that when they complain they actually try to fix things according to Kiara who says it's much better than it used to be.

>> No.68959726

>>68952612
Despite all the hate Gita gets she actually managed to land sponsor and shit for ID branch also managed to tard wrangle most of them

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