/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love this Rose like you wouldn't believe!

So are we getting any Valentine's streams now?

>>68911536
The reason sisters didn't care about the Luca shit was because the one who exposed him met him at 17 and she's like 7-10 years older than her or something. Rule of twitter is that the minor is ALWAYS the victim so he got a free pass.

>NIJI THRIVING

>>68912165
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>>68912017
thanks i'm gonna watch onimai

many thanks to the com- i mean pr department of anycolor for compensating for dramaless days. now that my sleep schedule is ruined again, its time to go to bed.

>>68912324
rumao

>>68912324
my oshi was gonna try to do one but .....now i'm doubting it.

wuca wuca

be honest do you think NijiEN will ever recover from this drama?

Mocca was right. Millie and Elira turned out to be bitches like they've presented themselves in the past.

based finana making it easy to unsub

Why do you keep making this thread. There's nobody streaming and nobody here likes any NijiEN members. If they do, they get drowned out. There's no point in this thread existing anymore.

>>68912324
Pio karaoke... Kunai zatsudan if you don't want that....

I think it's funny that she is using "t-they didn't invite me to the nijicanada offcollab!" as a proof for bullying...

WUB-A-DUB-A-DUB IS THAT TRUE?
https://twitter.com/TimeMaster131/status/1757281590575763654

Love you, Milord!

[spoilers] car watch engaged [/spoiler]

>>68912526
dum kindred

>>68912324
BLACK Valentine

i showered. may i have a smooch? i even put on balm

>>68911490
>gave pomu the first and final crab champion
>translated all of selen's tournament rule
>raped sonny
>siblings erp with petra but nobody hate her
>told his schizo to fuck off

>>68912472
Someone else would make it anyway.

>>68912526
Traitor.

>>68912546
I am aliveeee

You hangin in there?

>>68912588
chu

i love my bird wife ennatsu!
the sands beckon the last bit of life left in its domain yet life as we know it still thrives within

Is Elira Pendora...? you know...

>>68912425
the brand? not in the west. the livers? yeah

>>68912472
>thread about vtubers
>in /vt/
>somehow not allowed
Unless its mod enforced the thread stays

>>68912472
Nijicope

>>68912425
Yes. Sadly.

>>68912588
chu chu kadet

It just occurred to me that Elira mentioned Ennie and Milla but not Reimu at all. Can you imagine if Reimu turns out to have been one of the nicest people in NijiEN all along?

>>68912526
sis, i have a good day so i will spoonfeed you press ctrl+s

>>68912617
yeah i'm watching onimai

>>68912588
chuu

>>68912651
I would've agreed with the latter before today. Now I'm not sure even the livers can recover, at least not the ones involved in the video. This shit will follow them forever. It'll be like the Kemono Friends of vtubing. People will talk about this the same way they talk about .LIVE's collapse.

>>68912425
If things actually do change internally, then yes, th branch will eventually heal and people will forget. If not, then this endless cycle of "WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK" "IT'S SO FUCKING OVER" will continue on forever

>>68911187
The problem is even if it turns out that most of Doki's accusations were purely her BPD paranoia, toxicity, and burnt bridges on her part, it is undeniable that NijiEN was the one who basically fucked themselves over again and again by reacting in the worst possible manner. The only thing that could exonerate them completely is if Doki turned out to be a serial killer or something much worse, which is unlikely, given that, in that case, nothing would stop Niji from Riro Ronning her in their initial statement.

In the worst case scenario, NijiEN are confirmed bullies from management to livers. In the best case scenario, NijiEN fumbled PR horribly over a mentally unstable talent who was willing to move on, and dragged her into an even greater shitshow. To any neutral observer, NijiEN will still look like the worse party no matter what the truth is.

Doki's main strength so far has been her absolute Koumei level restraint in letting Nijisanji be the primary ones on the offense, while only retaliating defensively. This is why she isn't becoming a Zaion and is viewed as a martyr. This combined with her almost spotless external record.

>>68912655
I'm not saying it's not allowed, I'm saying it's useless. This might as well just be the board's general thread.

>>68912425
No. Before I could see this going away in time if everyone just shut up. Now with the Elira/Vox/Ike throwing her under the bus, this is a stain that will never go away. Selen will fire back and god only knows what she has in store. This is going to end with a lot of hurt feelings, unwinnable fights, lost careers and possibly the merge of EN into the main branch.

>>68912324
>zaion's big plans for valentines were robbed away from her last year
>now NijiEN's valentines robbed away from every single liver this year
KARMIC RETRIBUTION

I hope the Feesh is doing well. Still looping Distant.
https://youtu.be/LYaJuyevUnU

>>68912868
I'm looping Cendrillon. When's Feesh's next song?

>>68912798
I keep thinking tho if she only tries throwing more statements out on twitter vs just saving it for court, it’s going to start meaning something

I’ll still watch her
Cry about it

can a comfydant translate this for me

>>68912782
Riro did turn out to be exactly as bad as the termination statement claimed, right? Now that you mention if I've never heard any support for her after that.

>>68912324
uki has a "eating strawberries and whipped cream" asmr, which means more uki dick sucking noises we are so fucking back

>>68911187
People hate drama because you never gain long term viewers from it. By the time the court case resolves, if Selen is right, you'll just have more people leaving NijiEN and maybe Selen dragging it out for some publicity. On social media you'll have her supporters raking Niji supporters over the coals for a while, but none of them will ever be convinced to watch Selen. If Niji turns out to be right, the opposite happens and Niji supporters lash out for a while, everyone talking shit at them either shifts goalposts or shuts up, and a few people leave watching Selen, but Niji isn't gaining any of those viewers back. Maybe a few level headed people still on the fence months later will feel less guilty about supporting them. When you hold such a strong opinion on who to support, it's really difficult to change your mind on it even given evidence to the contrary.

>>68912910
A recording of her suicide for being a traitor

>>68912513
LOL

>>68912944
why a comfydant...

>lauren route
>hajiki route
which route elira, vox and ike will choose???

>>68912853
anycolor is just drama hungry. like terminating livers around or even during birthday streams, debuts etc. why not make a pr disaster on valentines then?

>>68912782
>a mentally unstable talent who was willing to move on
I want to give her the benefit of doubt, but I'm not sure someone who wants to move on keeps her lawyers at the ready before, while and after leaving

>>68912944
Take a picture of it with your phone and use Google Lens translate image feature.

Ikey! <3

>>68912944
love triangle

>>68912910
She's been teasing more art, so shouldn't be that long. She should probably hold off a bit now though so it doesn't get buried under anti-slime.

>>68913004
They always post chinese...

>>68912971
I wish he was sucking on my boobs instead

Please explain what's going on in terms of YuGiOh, specifically 5Ds

>>68913004
Because they usually translate and nijimales thread is dead

>>68912944
ok so
Ren = Frieza
Enna = Krillin
Kyo = Goku
hope this helps

>>68913063
Fucking liar. Bootlicker.

What kind of bullying was Selen receiving?

>>68912868
Great song, still mad this wasn't Doppio.

>>68912425
>NijiEN
No
>Nijisanji
Yes

>>68913068
I should learn chinese then...

>>68913104
Cervical

>>68913073
are they male boobs or female ones

>>68913084
This is the best I can do.

>>68913157
female...

>>68912944
>handwritten traditional
you're on your own mate

>>68912949
Riro being a slut was the biggest issue let‘s be honest
If it turns out selen is fucking her new manager half her fans will evaporate

>>68913058
Already did, MTL is shit

>>68913132
Oh man, now I’m starting to realize how amazing this would be with him

>>68913084
This is basically that filler arc of the anime where they got trapped in a virtual world because an executive wanted to steal Kaiba's company by turning everyone into yugioh cards. Pure greed.

>>68913073
catalog tranny testing out the freedom of being a femanon in a thread he doesn't understand, cute

>>68913104
imaginary

>>68912588
smooch

>>68913063
Would he purr if I gave him treats?

>>68912782
I wouldn't say her record is spotless, but attempting suicide immediately paints her as a victim, which is she, but Niji isn't necessarily the aggressor. I would not say filing a lawsuit, and throwing around claims of a company harassing and bullying you to the point of an attempt, if untrue, to be only defensive. The reason she's not a Zaion is because she's far more popular.

>>68913051
>lawyer tells her that its going to be not worth the effort
>ok.jpg
>suddenly anycolor brilliance strikes again
>lawyer halp
idk sounds plausible to me

I think Selen's mother should have locked her up in the basement.

>>68913041
So expect the next graduation or termination announcement in two days, gotcha

>>68913225
what

>>68913073
Based.
>>68913104
Mixed instrumental indirect overt according to the voices in her head.
Verification required.

>>68913051
She wants to move on publicly while having lawyers ready to deal with any problems that arise privately. There's no contradiction there.

>>68913193
comfydant... not like this...

>>68913187
ma'am, get it together.

Gotta question for ya, if this nigga came out after graduation with receipts against the management and the other livers to help Doki/Selen, what would your reaction be?

>>68912782
>willing to move on
lol

Feels like an all out war

>>68913239
of course. which reminds me I don't have an Ike purr soundpost yet even though he's purred multiple times on stream...

i wonder if kanae regrets giving her that expensive jewelry

>>68913324
Lmao don't try anymore selen

>>68913279
surely they will let kyo fuck off before next termination right

>>68913259
She's a Zaion for fans of Luxiem onward, it's insane how the actual sisters are treating her

>>68913198
I would support her for it, as long as she kept it to herself.

>>68913324
I'd laugh.

>>68912324
This but with Rosemi.

>>68913405
he's not that gay

If Sonny was on Selen’s document, what do you think it would be about?

>>68913324
I'd cum

>>68913360
Here

>>68913504
he faked his death

>>68913405
The second he talked to her he got shit for interacting with a disrespectful loudmouth so I don't think he cares.

>>68913405
kanae only want kuzuha cock

>>68913216
That's DM silly, actually no I got this. This is the dark signer arc, Kiryu is revenge fueled and wants to harm Yuusei but it turns out he was just a menhera and then following that we will get Crash Town where the suicidal man manages to smooth things over, becomes mayor of a town and adopts 2 children. 2 Nijien livers will graduate and stand with her or make public statements but she needs to have been killed for a second time (cancelled again) for this to take place. Also she plays a very risky deck that can be powerful if you can play it correctly which is the lawyer situation.

>>68913447
>She's a Zaion
You people aren't right in the head. 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre

I will have the last laugh once Selen loses a lawsuit, considering she asked for advice on 4chan of all places

>>68913447
Chinese women know just how untrustworthy chinese women are.
You need to be a special kind of idiot to trust a woman with self admitted BPD.

>>68913294
I wish I could believe that she actually wants to move on publicly

>>68913324
Kyo is good guy or bad? I have mixed feelings.

>>68913026
hajiki is a real chad he still streams to around 80-90 people every day (half of those are hate watching) do you really think any of those members could do that in the long run

>>68913239
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>>68913525
Vox, why are you still here.

>>68913525
god bless. chu!

>>68913447
the sisters don't really view things in terms of right/wrong or morality. they just follow the corporation because they attached themselves to it as an identity. it's the same shit w/ kpop and how the kpop stans will vehemently reject claims of their favorite boys raping women or whatever because it doesn't align with their team's interests.
these people are p much the same as /pol/tards and should be treated as such.

>>68912733
reimu just wasn't there to bully her in person

>>68913573
>she asked for advice on 4chan
???

>>68913504
he raped shota

>>68913504
He groomed Alban

>the eye twitching and random palpitations are back
time to close the tab, I guess

>>68913198
Wasn't she taking benzos along with possibly meeting up with fans? Either way she's a troubled girl, not a bad one, and didn't drag anyone with her.

>>68913573
Interns be working hard tonight.

>>68913573
meds

I just checked the financial charts.

The last time the stock went below 3200 Riku announced a massive stock buyback spending 10's of millions of dollars on that.
For some reason he seems to fear a massive selloff will happen if he ever goes below that threshold....which he just did

Is it really so hard to even slightly consider the possibility that the livers just don't like selen cause she's an asshole, cause it seems to be a herculean effort for some

>>68913625
Chu~

>>68913715
there's a reason he came out and did a 90 degree bow

>>68913026
what's up with lauren nowadays

>>68913721
I'd understand not liking someone, but putting yourself at legal risk to character assassinate a person you don't like, to no material benefit to yourself, seems like a very shortsighted move.

>>68913665
That‘s kinda what I mean
She didn‘t do something morally extremely heinous or anything herself but few people want to support a junkie whore
Like you‘d think idol having a manager fucking the talent would be the much bigger issue

>>68913777
Just had a fight with bully panda

>>68912367
have fun anon

wah

>>68913721
regardless of what anyone thinks on this particular topic, one of the most difficult things to realize or accept is that people don't have the ability to be rational. it's all coincidence and circumstance

>>68913721
It would be if it weren't for the fact that countless other people have gone on record to say that she's an upstanding person through and through. I find it easier to believe that the assholes lie inside management.

>>68913771
>there's a reason he came

The world may be burning down around me, but my Sanrio collab plushies just shipped! Everything is okay again!

In the past few hours, Nijisanji EN's accounts have lost over 100,000 subscribers

>>68913777
just had gay sex with kuzuha

>>68913307
fine, since i can't fall asleep anyways. can't guarantee it's very accurate
>ren: 3rd year, music club, musical instruments divison (?) stayed by kyo's side when he took a year off. respects enna. has an open crush on kyo, if they have an epiphany they'll get together (?)
>enna: 3rd year, music club, opera division. no resistance (?), annoying kouhai isn't so annoying after all, back-and-forth with kyo, admires ren
>kyo: 1st year, repeated a grade. met ren during his one-year break and met enna through him and the music club. knows his feelings for enna but chooses not to express them. considers ren a senpai he has a very good relationship with
>ship them however (brainless)

>>68913771
I wonder if he'll do a naked dogeza
>>68913812
you're talking to a nijinig, they aren't known to be logical.

>>68913721
At this point it’s actively against any of the livers interest to side with the company or go after to selen so I do think so many of them co signing the statement that the girl is bonkers has some merit to it

>>68913555
this makes too much sense, does a voice actor then get caught in a sex cult and they change the entire plot of the anime to avoid cult references- oh wait that was tazumi's statement. who's roommate is carly then?

>>68913777
he has a bunch of fangirls that scared me whenever they showed up on the nijifes streams

>>68913907
>all the people who interacted with her regularly dislike her
>indies trying to leech and people who just really hate nijisanji claim to like her despite little to no interaction
Gee I wonder who I should believe…

>>68913602
Well she was happily playing Neopets and it was Nijisanji that suddenly decided to put out their attack at the exact moment she started her stream, perhaps in an attempt to provoke her into saying something. But she reacted professionally, saying that she would put out a statement later and would be consulting her lawyers. So she knows better than to speak about it publicly any more than she has to.

>>68913104
This list doesn't account for social bullying(95% of all feminine bullying).

>>68913812
At this point I don't think they're trying to act optimally, they just want to try to tell their truth because it's eating them inside or something. There's no way that none of the livers knew that the public would shit on them like this, it's a very predictable outcome

Asmongold is talking about it

>>68912435
Context or source? Plz!!

>>68913721
Sadly most people are willing to think in a hero/villain mentality

I’ve worked with people who threaten to quit every other week and sooner or later, it becomes a part of their personality to try to find ways to involve other people into their plans

There’s a possibility that at some point the other livers just felt like she could’ve just left sooner if she seriously had disagreements without involving them

I just don't get why they chose to side with the company. Any liver could quit the company now and enjoy the free publicity and more popularity than they ever had, instead they chose to go down with the ship and get blacklisted by the community. Are they just not thinking it through?

>>68913715
I'm looking at what a buyback is. So companies can just buy their own shares? How is that even legal?

>>68914181
>reddit spacing
>retarded post
You aren't convincing anyone.

Sometimes I wonder if the Nijifans defending Selen actually like her streams. I feel like they only knew her through collabs or events with the other NijiEN livers.

Nui's big tits and P5R are keeping me going right now

>>68914129
If she wants to be professional about it, she doesn’t need to make a statement. She can just simply try to be the bigger person and say, “I’ll let the court of law speak for it.”

Otherwise it just seems like it’s an attempt to keep this drama relevant when at this point, it should just go to fucking court.

>>68914215
Current rrat is that Elira was being blackmailed for the work visa, and since she's currently in japan she had no other choice but to be the main meat shield or risk getting deported.

>>68914215
The confidence is what worries me. Nobody would do something like this unless they are genuinely sure they are right and going to be vindicated in the end.

>>68913777
he just streams normally and has completely moved on with the drama not really effecting him anymore. competes in a lot of fps game tournaments

>>68913988
Based on the situations with Roa and Lulu I suspect Niji's lawyers and managers convinced the livers that the company has their best interests in mind and will "protect" them and all they have to do is cooperate and do everything they're told.

Of course this is a total lie just like it was with Roa and Lulu, but the point is I can very easily imagine well-meaning employees who don't know any better falling for it and placing their trust in the company without contacting their own lawyers or getting a second opinion from a unbiased third party. These people are mostly young adults who have never had a job before Niji and don't know any better.

Meanwhile people who have actually privately interacted with Selen came out and said she treated them with respect, was always prompt with payments, and even covered for Niji's fuckups to compensate them properly. These are people who have no direct incentive to get involved vouching for Selen's character, which speaks volumes more than employees of Anycolor being compelled by their employer to testify on their behalf.

NEPO-SENTAI
NEPO-SENTAI

>>68914249
It's basically showering the shareholders with money so they won't dump the stock. It's a short term measure to protect against momentum trading. It's legal but it's an indication that investors are looking for short-term profit and aren't thinking long term about the company. The problem is that if their short term profits don't materialize, they dump.

>>68913504
Plaintiff Selen Tatsuki is filing a complaint against Defendant Sonny Brisko, who is an adult resident citizen of Australia and current employee of Anycolor Inc. under Nijisanji EN.. Damages have been incurred against Plaintiff, both monetary and emotional. Plaintiff wrote the following about Brisko:
1. Chewed loudly during managerial meetings, masking Plaintiff's voice on purpose and thus hindering her ability to fulfil her vtuber duties
2. Participated in a gaslighting scheme in which Defendant repeatedly told Plaintiff that she was good at Apex, which she was not, thus falsely boosting her ego for the sole purpose of humiliating her in front of her peers, leading to damages in viewcount loss during Apex tournaments
3. Mocked Plaintiff's laugh by adopting a "faggy girl laugh" as per Plaintiff's recorded statement
4. Mocked Plaintiff's mental health struggle by bringing up the time Defendant faked his own death which is "suicide of the career", per quote of the Defendant, in which Plaintiff responded with "You make me want to kill myself"

>>68914345
Knowing kurosanji, this is probably true kek

selen's document leaked
elira and pomu are not dating
finana doesn't like gacha
petra's kamioshi is kaida
rosemi is a street fighter fan
millie is indonesian
reimu is virgin
enna is korean

>>68914215
Everyone is assuming they were trying to defend the company, when I personally interpreted it as defending themselves and standing together against the mob that was sent against them

>>68914095
Silly anon, not a single one of the people involved interacted with her regularly, specially not management and most of her co-workers

>>68913504
Comissioned $7k worth of lewds of her specifically and it and feeder fetish art. She later found out he comm'd $9k worth of lewds of Pomu.

https://www.twitch.tv/zackrawrr
everyone get in here he's watching the vid

>>68914395
>reimu is virgin
Yeah I'm calling fake we've been having sex for a while

>>68914397
This.

>>68914215
least they have the defense of the company now. say selen keeps going with the lawsuit even if they graduate now they gotta get their own lawyers

>>68914317
She was streaming you retard
She didn't ask Niji to do this when they did

>>68913612
on paper a 2 viewer whos been streaming for 5 years and loves BL sounds terrible but he loops it back around to being based somehow

>>68914397
If they hadn‘t further antagonized Doki they would have had nothing to fear
Now all bets are off

>Giving her a chance to graduate over a year ago, she decided not to do it and instead backstabbed everyone in the group.
This woman isn't even listening to the faggoons

>>68913777
axia leaving gave him free reign to kick it with FPS streaming fleshbros since axia fucking sucked at shooters, now he's in kuzuha and fuwa's clique

>>68914364
So this is officially "the clique" huh?

>>68913988
Doki's friend (vgumihoe) did confirm that there is definitely bullying from livers (at least in Doki's view). So they have lots of reason to be on the defense. But more receipts will have to come out.

>>68914070
This is still the wildest YuGiOh fact to me and I had to watch the space ambulance be called on Kaito after he suffocated to death on the moon because I watch both dubs and subs of the series. Petra is the Carly.

>>68914298
Selen was one of my most watched livers in the company. I defended them for a very long time but this was the last straw. It's true what they say, you only start caring once it happens to your oshi.

>>68914215
Either there's something going on behind the scenes, or the whole mean girls clique rumor is true and they think it'll blow over

>>68914397
>against the mob that was sent against them
Here comes the victim complex. This isn't twitter, sister. You aren't tricking anyone but yourself.

>>68913324
it would be like when naruto tried to reddem orchimaru

One thing I will comment on this:
>Selen recording her private call with Vox to use as evidence = bad
>Management showing screenshots of Selen's private conversation as evidence = good

>>68914516
maybe they still have nothing to fear, no way to know but to wait

>>68914397
But they painted the target on themselves. Everyone was like "don't attack the livers, attack the company" before that disaster of a video on Elira's channel.

Reminder that
>They could've let Selen have her graduation instead of straight up terminating her
>They were the owns who exposed this whole bullying thing to the public
>They did a whole stream claiming Selen is lying/acting in bad faith
Literally every single one of these things were self-inflicted.

>>68914129
Were they expecting her BPD to make her do something stupid?

>>68914576
>victim complex
that selen

>>68914602
Where’s the comment

>>68914397
That's most likely exactly what the intention of the video was. The title didn't say "A Message From Elira, Vox, and Ike," it's "A Message From Nijisanji EN." All the EN members quote-retweeted the tweet with them saying they all knew what was in the video, accepted that it'd be talked about, and stood by it. It's just that it backfired horrendously.

>>68913721
whether you think she's in the right legally i think it's been proven she's an asshole, she lied about graduating/getting terminated multiple times to the other livers

I can't believe it

bros

>>68914602
retard can't see the difference between

>>68914641
>>68914522

Least obvious numbercord raid

>>68914156
But they didn't even tell any truths. Their only accusation is that she gave her lawyer legal documents pertaining to her interactions with her coworkers. Which is like...totally standard in any legal dispute between a company and a former employee. They claim this is a huge breach of trust but never actually accuse her of anything before her firing. There's no receipts or anything beyond a chat log of her manager reacting to her song cover. Hardly something worth "exposing the truth" over if that was truly their intention. It's not like they established a pattern of behavior or showed she was the one bullying people. All they did was try to shit on her for totally normal things. If they felt so strongly about her behavior or thought she was an asshole, then they must have evidence of this being the case, or at least anecdotes of her behaving in an assholeish way towards them? Yet even in the video none of the livers suggested she did anything mean to them ever.

>>68914635
People were already attacking the livers anyway, all this did was give them another excuse to.

at least use the right font

>>68914690
>>68914691
towa baby

>>68914690
>>68914691
Failed holobrony discord raid

So the community note on Elira's tweet got removed

>>68914602
>work conversation
vs
>personal venting out session
hmmm is it the same i wonder

damn we really are being discord raided, you couldn't even take off your piss yellow night time filter

>>68914690
why is it piss colored

>>68914736
both are private conversations used to paint the other side as the offender, where's the difference

>say nothing
>dramafags and fagoons shit on you and every vtweeter thinks you are a terrible person
>air your grievances with selen‘s behavior
>exact same thing happens
Why wouldn‘t you at that point?

>>68914635
but they didn't attack anyone in the video, they mostly repeated the same thing as the termination letter but in their own words and with their own experience, and expressed their disappointment and sadness at how things turned out

even the count scapula notice was better edited than that

Seanigger didn't even trying to use the correct form...

>chatgpt
>wrong font and format

>>68914558
She made a tweet saying the same thing the 4chan catalog was saying, that because Elira, Enna and Millie were brought up that they must be the bullies. She doesn't say anything about hearing anything from Selen.

https://twitter.com/vgumihoe/status/1757272804188446877

>>68914779
im sorry I stole it from the catalog

If Riku is begging and bowing on camera I get the impression Nijisanji is in deep shit right now. The EN branch is actually bringing down the whole company.

selen's document leaked
luca is smart
shu prefer apex over valorant
ike is not a woman
vox is fat
fulgur is chinese
uki is straight
alban hates drugs

>>68914602
Who said it was a private call with Vox
Sounds more like it was a group meetings where management was talking about upcoming stuff which includes Vox

>>68914800
why are you saying this when you don't actually have any idea

>>68914345
>Risk getting deported
She could just tell them to fuck off and go home on her own? She’s a canadian citizen, it’s not like she can never go back to Japan.

>>68914635
But they did

>>68914602
Honestly if you are a streamer in today's climate you SHOULD be logging receipts for every single interaction. The internet has proven time and time again that no amount of 'friendship' will protect you when shit hits the fan. It should be a basic precautionary measure.

https://twitter.com/TimeMaster131/status/1757281590575763654

>>68914885
i hope your oshi dies

>>68914602
selen including elira, millie and enna's addresses in her lawsuit is good now?

>>68914690
Why did you write it on pag pag paper?

>>68914825
>shit slowly losing track
>"Yes lets add more fuel to this"
The faggot who approved that Elira video needs to be fired.

>>68914758
Because they’re not there to talk about her bullying them. That was never the claim, and they said that they all felt like nothing they’d done could be seen as bullying or harassment towards her. And one can argue that she was an asshole for recording a private conversation that seemed to be between friends.

>>68914568
luca is the jack, crow is fulgur, yusei is shu and aki i can't place, bruno was ren

>>68913104
Instrumental
both direct and indirect
covert
mixed
t. spent my entire youth being bullied and watching it happen to others. I know the signs and I have no doubt its a problem within Niji.

In fairness, I highly doubt Selen is without fault in this whole thing. She was with NijiEN from the very early days which means she helped foster the environment it is today, even if my headcanon says Vox is more responsible.

Also, her breakdown over her video is largely her own problem. We saw the screenshot, manager put a halt on its release due to the presence of ex-livers and then she broke rules by releasing it anyways and issued inappropriate statements because she was upset. We're lacking context though.

Is the presence of ex-livers typically a reason for a project to be halted? If not, then why is it a problem this time? If so, then do we know if these sorts of last-minute halts typically result in projects getting canned? If not, then her reaction was unreasonable but if so, then her desire for the project to at least see the light of day even if it meant breaking rules is reasonable.

>>68914929
yeah but more importantly there's no reason to vent to your internet friends

>>68914890
shareholders furious with the recent turn of events
expect some MAJOR restructuring and they'll probably hire more managers while at it

I was listening to normal music in shuffle and this came up, im genuinely crying. This sucks

>>68914965
I feel like everyone would probably laugh at this

>Being posted at the exact same time
>Obviously being raided by a discord and spreading false info
>Still up
Lol

>>68914881
A non-retard could infer that she has talked to doki about it and knows who the bullies are. Granted, this is just an assumption. It could be that gumi is being an idiot here.

Elira, why...

I thought you were an actual wholesome woman, but Ive been burned before. Females need should lose the right to vote, their all sociopaths

>>68914974
That's why it's for lawyers eyes only dumbass, if they are the offender that's the info used to address them

Just caught up with all the shit happening. Ike was the only guy I had respect for and it turns out he's one of the worst. Fuck that shit.

>>68914974
Yes, if it's necessary information for legal processes. You can't sue the anime girl Millie Parfait who lives in Elira's sideboob anon

>>68914906
it was implied that she pretended to be a friend then manipulated him into complaining about the management to her so she could record it for her benefit.

all you had to do was get rid of Enna

>>68914967
anon it's your oshi...

>>68912425
Getting good talent for new waves will be very difficult now.

>>68914818
one is with a manager regarding official work procedures and was the final conversation that results in the mess. the other is a personal conversation that could have been about many things besides work/the cancellation of the concert. for all we know it could have been a 3 hour call with half of it being phone sex

>this drama's getting so big even /trash/ is gossipping about it

Greetings from /BLACKED/ btw, have Elira throating BCC (Black Company Cock)

https://files.catbox.moe/6i73ku.png

>>68914967
My oshi is Vox.

>>68915086
>170

>>68914298
One of my only pieces of vtuber merch is of her. She was my oshi and I loved watching her (even if I was never a big fan of her apex arcs). And it's because I watched her a lot that I know that she's in the wrong.

>>68915031
Even feesh isnt the same now. She hasnt been embarassingly horny in so long. Why is everyone so fake

>>68913721
I don't doubt that Selen was doing stuff to piss everyone off. But even if she was the hardest-to-work-with megacunt on the planet, it still doesn't justify the suicidal anti-PR campaign NijiEN has engaged in after already firing her.

>>68915091
That's not at all what I got from vox's statement. If you genuinely believe this, could you specifically quote what vox said that implies this?

>>68912425
NijiEN is dead imo. I wonder how many will still be here by March.

>>68914888
>alban hates drugs
Fake and gay

>>68914991
NTA but it feels like a lot of miscommunication happening from both sides exacerbated by management being incompetent. It's possible both parties got hostile towards eachother while seeing themselves as the victim. Management which SHOULD have stepped in to tardwrangle didn't and things escalated.

>>68915086
Dont blame him
He was forced to do this, it was either he read the script of he was fired
Being a male indie vtuber isnt exactly safe

>>68915081
>>68915088
But anons said she is only suing the company, not livers

If the situation doensn’t improve soon I can see more livers choosing not to renew their contract

>>68915129
>regarding official work procedures
Why didn't they post the full convo then and instead split it to screenshots to fit their narrative

>>68915029
Nijisanji is utterly dead in the west. All of Riku's promises to shareholders were about an accelerating overseas expansion, but it's not happening. The entire EN streaming market is coming out to denounce Nijisanji right now. The entire twitter community is excoriating them. It's unrionically over.

rrat: millie is only staying at nijisanji because her younger sister hasn't graduated yet and in her last membership stream she revealed that her sister got delayed in college

>>68914553
the clique is anyone who did something especially bad that week

>>68915128
cute thank you

today is my birthday

>>68915086
Swedes are all fucking subhumans, havent you ever met one? They all have rapist genes from viking heritage

Love your oshi: Famelira, Ryuguards, Pomudachis, Dragoons, Rosebuds, Pentomos, Aloupeeps, Famillie, Phantomos, Kindred, Lucubs, Quilldren, Briskadets, Stargazers, Takaradachi, Comfydants, Scarlings, Aiadmirers, Marippets, Kyomies, Arcadians, Renvaderz, Scythekicks, Meloves, Sicklings, Kotocats, Villions, Wilsoneers, Vantacrew, Vezkits, Paladins, Nakarats, Outclaws!!!!

They didn't follow my advice and went their own route. I am not sure if it was the best decision but they can only do what they think is right. I am sorry I let it get this far.

>>68915031
i was just thinking about staring into hoshikawa's eyes as she guides me through the night

>>68915101
Millie and Elira were always the root of the problem. You don't stay friends with people like Enna for 10+ years without being rotten yourself.

>>68915134
Based, because it’s never easy to say this in this climate. So mad respects. I don’t wish anything bad for her, just hopes she moves on, and the others can too well from it.

>>68914827
They didn't actually offer any of their own experiences with Selen. They only said things based on third party accounts like "we had heard Selen did this and that" without specifying who they heard it from. Nowhere did they accuse her of behaving inappropriately towards themselves or other livers. It comes off as a total nothingburger but framed in a way that's meant to sound damning. Without the context of a "public statement" video it would sound like generic employee gossip.

>>68914991
Canada is a one party consent state, and she felt like she was being harassed at work so recording conversations is probably the only way to protect herself. Them saying 'we FELT like she wasn't being harassed" just sounds like nonsense at best and gaslighting at worst. It has basically no value because their own feelings are irrelevant in the matter. They aren't the judge or the jury in this dispute. In fact, ex-coworkers chiming in to shit on you for no real reason is precisely a valid legal reason to claim harassment and probably bolsters her argument in this case. If she has receipts of them acknowledging the way she was treated by management in private, only to deny it in public with this statement, then they're fucked lol. It would show a coordinated attempt by the company to disparage her character through witness manipulation. Especially if she listed them as witnesses in her legal document, which she certainly would have if she recorded Vox in particular as he claims.

>>68914997
Wose could be Aki?

>>68915192
No, fuck that, no. That's a retarded take and you know it. "he was just following orders"
No.
He could've called in sick, said he has a diarrhea, whatever.
Fuck you.

>>68915128
*sigh*
*unzips*

Face it nijinigs, even if Doki turns out to be a child raping serial killer your shitty company will NEVER recover.

>>68915133
hope he double dies
>>68915112
good

>>68914180
Millie (before niji) quote tweeted something out of context (it was like tweet 3 of 7 in a chain) and made drama out of nothing, it was a huge shitstorm in the early en vtuber days because of "gatekeeping".

>>68915047
You could assume that, but that is not what is in the tweet. We don't know that Selen has gone that deep into her legal issues with anyone, "friend" or not. You can just as easily assume she believes her friend's story without any other evidence.

>>68915246
Elira…

>>68915246
>I am sorry I let it get this far.
h-huh.....

>>68915243
Hbd

>>68915243
Happy birthday

>>68915243
Congrats

>>68915058
dummy got scared when she saw her real name and address on da legal papers, then vox convinced her in a "we are the chlidren we are the world, let's tell our truth sis" fashion to roll with this bullshit, that's my rrat
until she's proven guilty of bullying, she's innocent

>>68915217
how do you now that's not the full conversation

>>68915246
My oshi graduated, all I have left is hate in my heart. I fucking hope Vox kills himself so bad. I hope he does a better job at it then Selen

>Vtubers still giving their opinions on the drama
>DEBUTING MARCH 8TH on their twitter name
Lmao. I notice it’s mostly low 2views or livers that’s about to debut that’s really invested in the drama

>>68915192
>>68915284
Why do you type like that

>>68914977
It's really weird to get confirmation from posts like this that everyone here is a jungle Asian girl.

I only understand what this even means because I'm a white guy who went to Thailand and the Philippines last month for a vacation and easy sex.

Since Vox mentioned the latest Selen started collecting receipts was a year ago, I feel like either Yugo or Zaion or something must have spurred her on to begin the muckracking process for blowing up NijiEN. Just how much dirt is she sitting on?

>Asmon supporting Vox and shitting on Selen
BAAAASEEEEEEDDDD: https://www.twitch.tv/zackrawrr

>>68915367
>ahem

>>68915246
love your oshi

>>68915367
This but Ike.

>>68915246
Um, Yaminions doko?

I woke up from my sleep and the entire situation just got worse. Why would they do this

>>68912425
YES, I CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT IT WILL RECOVER AND GROW STRONGER WHILE SELEN IS STILL AT COURT.

>>68915279
They did though, Vox said she would graduation bait and even once lied about being terminated
It honestly makes her sound like a schizo

>>68915361
I wish i had your optimism.

>>68915245
Shut up faggot, the ones with actual Viking blood (aka having testosterone) are fighting for their country to not become an Arab colony
Ike is one of those modern Swede weaklings

>>68915279
>canada always recording convos if at least kne of the participants consents
>the uk does not
Which law matters more in that instance?

>>68915193
Even if they're not parties in the litigation you still need addresses, especially if you're alleging litigable events took place at those addresses

so did that big stream happen yet?

>>68915245
>viking heritage
The viking blood dried up generations ago, they're left with nothing but twink faggots just like the rest of europe

>>68915364
because there's literal 12 hours gaps between messages and they split it, post the full screenshot

/a/ just told me to kill myself after I brought this drama to them...

>>68915284
Elira is on vacation, they dragged her ass into this

>>68915417
LMAOOOOO

>>68915243
My birthday was the day Selen was terminated, I'm a dragoon Still one, based choice and an anon posted happy birthday when I vented so uh, bad birthday I guess? My condolances

>>68915501
Why are you crossboard posting?

>>68915419
Didnt this guy steal money from a chariry? I dont know if you posted that sarcastically or not.

Nijifaggots lol

>shat on Selen for recording Vox without his consent
Based?

>>68915501
Deserved KYS

>>68915246
Love your oshi, FamElira...

>>68915536
no u xd

>>68915446
So what if she's a schizo, that isn't really a negative towards her character that she's paranoid or defeatist or prone to anxiety attacks. She isn't even shy about that and it doesn't make her testimony less trustworthy. It rubbed me the wrong way that Vox brought that up at all. She probably told him that in vulnerable moments and he's turning it around on her while simultaneously claiming she breached his trust. Ick.

Anons can anyone help me with my Masterduel code thingy?

060872e5

>>68915430
Tourist-chama...

>>68914395
>millie is indonesian
it's even worse...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC8DJH_i8s0

>>68915430
under there

>>68915565
i still don't like him, no mentally sane person lives in that kind of filth

>>68915593
i played 1 match of masterduel and got first turn killed
uninstalled that shit

I bet every liver is frantically trying to remember every private chat they had with her

>>68915279
I get if she wants to record a conversation where she feels like she’s got proof of harassment at work, but to record Vox upset about the AR Live, probably venting about his own opinion?

Unless there’s more to that call, it’ seems less like it had anything to do with her being harassed unless he insulted her directly in it. She tried to record it to put her narrative on it about favoritism, but that was likely not something literally being discussed word-for-word in the call. It was just him venting.

Ugh remembering Asmongold's living habits makes me more nauseous than goreposter ever did

>>68915461
Canada because Selen would be suing Anycolor in a Canadian court.
Vox being recorded doesn't really matter since he's not actually being sued here. The only important part is whether that evidence can be submitted in a Canadian court, which obviously it can.

What?! You mean to tell me most if not all the people who care for the drama are clout chasers and drama queens
there’s so many screenshots from here on twitter, twitterfag probably lurking now

>>68915280
she does have the energy if not the tits

>>68915565
Not that I don't believe Vox, but I hate Asmon enough that I hope he gets cancelled for this anyways.

>>68915565
he said it was shit for her to do it but if the other person was also being shady then he would also would record

>>68915426
Your Oshi fucks overweight female discord mods then insults them to his friends for social status

>>68915417
Why is it so long I just want to see this part

Thinking about how Yugo's termination was criticized for not having any information in it, so they went ahead and went into detail with future terminations, but looking at how people still constantly bring up Zaion and Selen to this day but nobody ever talks about Yugo, makes me wonder if maybe Nijisanji had the right idea with Yugo's termination letter and should have just stuck with doing letters like that, because Yugo really has been completely forgotten at this point.

>laughs her ass off at someone threatening her by revealing she lives in Canada

>Elira is TERRIFIED that a legal document may reveal her and Millie's location (Canada)

Never knew Elira was that much of a lolcow

>Someone in chat goes “Khyo is here!”
My sides. Is khyo seriously telling his followers shill him

>>68915565
Recording your friends without their knowledge = bad, is a pretty lukewarm take and common sense

>>68915321
Also Elira butted in and called the guy who said the statement an asshole publicly for not agreeing with Millie, while he was getting harassed by Millie fans and predebut vtweeters.
All he said was you need to build up experience before you debut and not fluke it. Don't waste thousands of dollars on a model only to find out you didn't break out and don't enjoy streaming.
He also hated corpo vtubing.

>>68915589
It’s a red flag to bait your friends with that shit

>>68915470
>twink faggots with no testosterone
So just like you

>>68915650
that video of the cockroach crawling over him.....makes me sick....

>>68915748
yugo's termination sucked but he would have been so menhera if he stayed
wow i really forgot he is trans

>Jerma collabed multiple times with NijiEN
>No comment
His silence is deafening. What happened to their relationship?

Can we please stop with the drama and assign livers YuGiOh characters instead

>>68915819
Have you seen the blood wall? For those who don't know, he wipes the blood off his teeth with his hands and wipes it on the wall.

why did vox agree to this when he was off his meds

>>68915565
There's more dead rats in this dudes house than there has been on this board this year

>>68915756
Elira lives in the loonies, if you reveal a city she lives in it's easy to find her

>>68915565
Fucking disgusting receding hairline. Also isnt this the guy who stole from a charity?

>Asmon doing the balanced take
I usually hate fence-sitting but I am thankful he is trying to hear both sides not just get on the hate bandwagon

>>68915643
It was probably him talking about the shit Luca leaked to his hag like Luxiem getting invited to fancy dinners and other privileges. I'm betting Vox naively brushed it off as "not favoritism" because he IS the favoritism and is the last to notice when his coworkers are being unfairly treated.

>>68915565
>>68915772
This is a take that will look extremely stupid if it turns out selen did actually record something incriminating. It just 100% depends on whether it was justified.

>>68915842
I miss those videos

>>68915243
happy birthday anon

>>68915643
For all we know she could've been recording 100% of her calls all of the time due to personal paranoia. Vox just decided to single himself out because he thought it would improve his argument.
Keep in mind none of this was ever meant to be made public until Anycolor did so. It was supposed to be evidence in the legal negotiations and nothing more. Selen claimed these same documents also doxxed her real name and address, so she'd have no reason to publicly release them.

>>68915798
I don't think it was bait, she was probably genuinely paranoid of being fired and venting to him as a friend. I have close discord friends who constantly vent about wanting to quit vtubing, it's normal when you're frustrated. Kiara said Pomu mentioned wanting to graduate all the time to her and yet she didn't use that against her.

>>68915882
Forgrt about that, he killed his mom. An actual psychopath.

>>68915874
we should talk about how kino arcv was

>>68915672
The hardest thing for me to believe would be that the average IQ on twitter is actually low enough that they could think that someone getting proof of anything from here is a good idea.

>>68915874
The average person in this thread can barely name five livers so no

>>68915246
I'm still a famillie until further evidence forces me to stop being one.

>>68915897
He was promised social credits

>>68915897
Because he only cares about himself

my jp professor sometimes uses a R instead of a L when typing and i keep thinking of meloco, i feel bad

>>68915842
Shouldn't have peeped the horr-

>>68915926
I hate that fucker, but this is good to hear given his reach

>>68915926
This is the correct take. I’m actually surprised that even with the Elira video, not a single one they revealed is being taken seriously at all. It’s like kids sticking a finger in their ears and just taunting them, especially when chat was just full of L’s earlier

>>68915897
You just answered yourself, he's off his meds. Honestly if I was a Kindred I'd be hoping he got himself to one of those back centers that lets you pay extra for pills instead of fucking with NHS because quitting meds cold turkey can make you suicidal or even manic.

>>68915950
There’s a nuanced difference to people just being upset from time to time with their jobs and saying they want to quit or look at new jobs. That shit is pretty normal across the board. Then another when someone gets emotional and starts trying to put their paranoia into other people. Which, to some, can be a red flag on a person.

>>68916031
God thats a funny fucking post I cant stop laughing

We are only getting bits and scraps of information right now. Nijisanji is presenting their strongest case. Which apparently is "you recorded my conversation (legel btw)".
Where's the rest of the facts? The years of systematic bias? The catastrophically inept management that completely fucked up Pomu's graduation announcement?

Selen wanted to put the whole thing behind her.
So Nijisanji decided to take this as an "opportunity" to strike first, and release all the information they feel is beneficial to their argument. Which turned out to be extremely weak.

>find emotionally vulnerable niji-sis, tell her that selen was in the wrong
>tell her that you support her oshi and niji 100%
>this eventually leads to... le epic sex
tap in guys

>>68916074
You have to keep in mind it literally is kids in most case. The average age of vtuber watchers is very young. Elder people like us are the outliers.

>>68916074
Elira‘s chat is gonna be unusable for months at this rate so that‘ll be fun.

>>68915565
Why do people worship this mentally ill man? I've only seen pics of his trash piles.

>>68915842
He already sent Mika off last year. Let the man retire in peace

>>68915897
Better question is why did Ike agree to this, it isn't like him and he didn't even have anything substantial to add

>>68915926
Asmon is genuinely just a piece of shit chasing drama in every single instance. He's not just a fencesitter, he's waiting for the tide to shift towards one side or the other so he can join the bandwagon and shit on the losing team. He's done this fucking hundreds of times because his entire career is built on being a wormy loser.

>>68916063
Dudes afraid of being recorded because he erps with underage girls. Thats my pet rrat at least

>>68916190
Because he's a fucking snake and shit human being. He just wanted to throw his "friend" under the bus.

goodnighty, take care of yourselves anons

>>68915565
If your "friend" is being an asshat to you consistently and you mention it to him and he doesn't change, then at some point you're going to want evidence.

>>68915940
He said she was trying to get evidence of management bias towards Luxiem. But recording someone in a non-work conversation is still a scummy move, and bias towards a group making more money isn't exactly criminal.

>>68916190
I'd guess it's because everybody knew he was really close with Selen, so him being there legitimized it.

>>68916155
It will only work if you have vox voice genetics

>>68916074
It literally is all brainwashed kids, they are all angry looking for something to point their rage and forget about it next month

>>68915756
Just went back on the vod, ngl I would be terrified if I was in their shoes, around 1:58- 2:08 elira stated that the documents that were handed contains some personal infos of livers and has a potential to be made public.
https://youtu.be/o65VwnQvWW4?t=117

>>68916174
no it's not, this shit will blow over in a couple weeks. They'll lose fans and long term growth but by and large it's gonna be back to normal in the short term.

Holy based. I can't believe it took Asmon to have a rational take on it. Everyone else is being a hysterical faggot about it.

Ok but why haven’t rosemi and Petra said anything yet

>>68916161
>>68916174
Pretty much. It kinda felt like watching a Nintendo Direct and they’re showcasing a jrpg with chat just spamming retarded shit

>>68915950
thisdesu, we gotta stop with the "perfect victim" expectations for people with severe mental illness. People with BDP and shit WILL betray you and make you feel you manipulated. Mental illness doesn't justify their actions but it helps to understand and help them work through it(ie encouraging them to get therapy and take meds)

selen = zeon
nijien = federation

>>68916190
Vox went on for so long that before Ike spoke I was literally just thinking "Is Ike only here because Vox is here and he's not actually going to say anything besides hi".

doesn't this make luxiem(minus vox and ike) look good lmao
they were advocating for better cuts and to not cancel arlive?

>>68916113
I don't think there's any indication Selen was "putting her paranoia onto other people" though. Vox claimed she often graduation baited aka talked about being fired or graduating any time she got stressed. Ok, but that's totally normal behavior people talk about quitting their job all the fucking time. He's just framing it as if she's menhera to attack her character. Within the context of being a wagie it's totally normal, but since it's in the context of a character assassination we're supposed to interpret it as if she's untrustworthy because of it.

>>68915950
Yeah I think Doki was collecting general NijiEN dirt just in case, given her precarious state with management, but also had specific bullying claims towards certain livers. Vox just happened to be caught in the crossfire for being a prime example of NijiEN management's bullshit. Doki herself said the docs were meant more as a way of explaining why she felt the way she felt and were not meant to be seen by anyone outside of the lawyers, but NijiEN used that to turn Vox against her. And, to be honest, after seeing what happened to Zaion she'd be right to be fucking paranoid.

>>68916272
women lie to themselves all the time, I can make them think I have a handsome voice

If Ike is a snake I want him to bite me and inject his venom into me until my blood coagulates and I collapse to the ground twitching uncontrollably and slowly die

>They released her medical records to other organs
>Why?
HOLY BASED

>>68916237
And where is the proof he was being an asshat to her?

>>68916254
>non-work conversation
Was this stated anywhere?

>Anons unironically liveposting Asmongold
The absoluto estado desse generale

>>68916281
It only has potential to be made public if its handled by incompitent indian niji manag- oh shit thats scary as fuck

>>68916181
He's just calling it like he sees it. Don't worry, he'll be singing Selen's praises if her argument is persuasive to him. The case is still developing.

>>68916294
They hate Selen just like your parents hate you.

why does ike sound like that lmfao

>>68916320
You mixed this up, the Federation are the good guys.

>>68916351
They didn't.

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757240066265506027