/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68874835
>why doesn't the clique ringleader just leave?
gee I wonder

>>68874835
retard

>>68874835
I didn't want to believe it. She really WAS the clique leader. What the fuck.

>used
Is very apparent that she is the one moving the strings.

>>68875007
retard

>>68874835
Half the branch are her friends. This has been known since the start. And her friends are always the reason for drama.

Rumao imagine all the evidence and then dismissing it as rrats because nijisisters were trying so hard to deflect. The only ones dumber than you room temp IQ Kurosanji trannies is your CEO Riku.

You're still in denial, she clearly played a huge part in this to be included in court documents

>>68874950
>>68875138
>>68875184
Bullshit. Enna took over the clique at least since Iluna. Elira doesn’t have an evil bone in her body; you can tell just from watching her streams alone.

SOMETHING’s up here. She said she was scared of having her personal info leaked. Maybe management threatened to dox her anonymously unless she twisted it into Selen threatening to dox her. They HAVE to be holding something over her besides her job; NO ONE would go this out of their way to defend such an abusive workplace for barely above minimum wage, unless they were actually threatened with something tangible.

>>68876173
The damage is done Anon regardless if she is evil or simply has no balls. Now she has te be prepared for what's coming.

Elirafags really are this naive lmao

>>68876173
>mr. riku-san, a second suicide attempt has hit kurosanji EN

>>68874835
I knew she deserved the worst in life the first time I heard her say "SHEEESH" (which was also the last time, I of course never watched her again).

>>68876173
She's probably guilty of a lot worse and Niji threatened to oust her if she doesn't comply.
I'm really questioning any of the dog dying business being true, it was probably an excuse to cover up why she's really upset. Who wouldn't mention having a dog after all these years?

>>68874835
Gee it's almost like it's all just bullshit propaganda.

Its time to accept that Elira is nowhere near the good girl you've been lead to believe OP. She was friends with Enna and Millie prior to Nijisanji after all, like attracts like.
If anything, this whole event is now a learning lesson that will now have permanent implications throughout the community. Now people will absolutely have doubts about whether their favorite corporate vtuber is being genuine, or if its all just an act and they're just a mouthpiece for the company. This is genuinely worse than any BF/GF yab could have ever done.

>>68876173
Anon there's an obvious answer that lets you reconcile all your beliefs without contradictions or compromise.

If Selen is in fact legitimately in the wrong here, then everything adds up. Otherwise you have to accept that Elira herself is part of the problem.

>>68874835
THEY EXPECT ONE OF US IN THE WRECKAGE BROTHER

>>68874835
The simplest explanation is that Selen is the one actually in the wrong.

>>68874835
Retard. She doesn't leave because she's literally part of the clique that runs everything and shits on everyone else. You think that stream was her being used as a mouthpiece by the company against her will? Dumb spiteful bitch wanted to slander Doki and fuck up her first ever stream.

>>68876173
>anon discovers sociopathic lying people with fake personalities exist for the very first time
I'm sorry you had to find out this way anon, I liked her too once

>>68874835
She thinks Tazumi is going to let her on his yacht if she plays the part of the obedient little dog.

if Elira turns out to be in the right, every Famelira that doubted her is morally obligated to akasupa an apology and then leave forever.

>>68878328
>>68878605
literally the fact that they stupidly confirmed they are implicated in the legal document and that there is proof being held literally proves objectively Selen isn't in the wrong.
Also you can say 'muh menhera' all you want but I refuse to believe anyone would literally attempt to kill themselves over something as trivial as a MV. Clearly there was way more going on that led to it and they don't even deny the bullying accusations in that shitty 15 min video either lmao

>>68876173
>Elira's personal info is in the legal documentation
Oh gee, I'm sure that doesn't mean that she's one of the bullies, Doki just put specifically her, Millie, and Enna's info in there for funsies.

>>68879782
>I refuse to believe anyone would literally attempt to kill themselves over something as trivial as a MV.
you're so close anon... almost there...
>Clearly there was way more go-
dammit

>>68879252
You forgot to list a third option anon, and that is that both parties are potentially in the wrong to some extent. I'm admittedly biased towards Selen because nothing NijiEN did from February 2023 to now has shown them as trustworthy but In this case, all parties would have their reputations stained. Both NijiEN's management, NijiEN's current livers, NijiEN's former livers, and Selen, their reputations would be tainted as a group of bad people.

>>68880130
Actually the most likely one. Anyone who thinks Doki is clean is fucking insane there's so much obvious reason to distrust her. But also it's way too late to act like Anykara is anything but a pitch black company.

>wake up
>something about Elira's channel being used by cowardly management
What happened again? TL;DR?

>>68880791
Elira, Ike, and Vox publicly threw Selen under the bus, all in the name of defending their company. The saddest part is that I am not exaggerating at all, this screencap was Anycolor's smoking gun to clear their name, and it still shows that they took 30 hours to respond to Selen.

>>68881100
I like how they convenient left out everything that built up to this aside from calling the suicidal girl a liar. As if THIS was literally the only issue Selen had with the company, as if this one single MV is the reason she tried to kill herself.
As if there wasn't months of bullshit happening to her before hand and this was just the breaking point. Doesn't even matter who was in the right for this one because its obvious so much more happened

>>68881100
well, shit.
And all of that after the 'screenshots can be faked!!!' screams.

>>68874835
Vtubing attracts the worst of humanity. I honestly just follow them for the drama, trashfires and overall being anime Jerry Springer except none of it is fake

>>68875589
fucking kek my sides have left orbit

>>68876173
>Elira doesn’t have an evil bone in her body; you can tell just from watching her streams alone.
You have clearly never seen women in an office talking about someone that they don't like. They will be perfectly respectful to your face, but watch out for what happens behind your back because they WILL shank your ass just as sure as your ex in prison would.

>>68875589
Somebody at Niji is horny for Parrot; it's the only thing that makes sense now...

>>68880318
>there's so much obvious reason to distrust her
Like what?

>>68874950
fpbp yet again

>>68880318
Take a black company which is a meat grinder for even the most sane among us.
Now take a person with even a hint of mental disorder. Throw in a few more for good measure.
Mixing the two will not get you good things.

>>68876173
Sure, Elira.

>>68874835
>Why the FUCK doesn’t she just leave?
>A good girl like her
Perhaps she is actually bad.

>>68876173
The clique has always been Enna's. That hasn't changed. She also doesn't want to leave because it's more stable than going indie again, she's said that before in a members. Not much she can do in this situation other than refuse and then get blacklisted from the company like some graduated JP livers did in the past.
>>68879814
Retard-chama, they live together. Putting out Millie's info = putting out Elira's info.
>>68879782
>saying you're in a document means you're guilty
Not how law works. And Selen is insane so of course she would.

>>68880318
Oh, she certainly could have handled things better, but even if she sent letter to the managers saying that she's gonna behead Millie and Enna, it would still be incomparable to the utter retardation niji is doing right now

#STOP THE COUNT
MIDNIGHT BALLOT HARVESTING IN PROGRESS

>>68874835
cuz shes a corporate cockslurper

>>68881100
>so why this is released
lol it's so over
Why couldn't they get some basic english speaking manager for the EN branch? that's like skimping on wheelchairs at a hospital, it's so basic

>>68881599
What makes it more confusing is that we'll never know whether this screencap was taken during Japanese or Pacific Standard Time as would be normal for Selen. So there could also be a chance that Selen sent it to management on Christmas Eve at 8AM in the west, and they did not respond until 9:30PM on Christmas day.
If management accessed the Twitter account and it defaulted to Japanese standard time, that would mean that management had two fucking days to review it, and Selen thought "Oh well, they said audio is ok, close enough I guess." That or she thought "Ex-livers are suddenly a problem now despite Enna using Nina in her MV? Fuck this, I've already invested 15k into this stupid fucking project, I am not wasting another dime having to change this video just to appease my lazy manager. No one works on Christmas anyways, the fans will appreciate it since they know its from a positive place, and its ultimately not a big deal."
Either way that horrific miscommunication any Anycolor's arbitrarily enforced rules just kicked off a whole shitshow.


>>68883324
She was at 606k subs before this. That means that there is an actual percentage of current or dead subs that went out of their way to unsubscribe due to her willing participation in this circus show.

i used to think that tribalism is cringe and retarded
but all i want rn is total nijinigger death, elira and vox included

>>68876173
Sorry dude, after this stream I just can't believe this cope anymore

>>68874835
She's stay true to her lore

>>68874835
>A good girl like her
You're delusional. She's trying to cover her own ass because SHE'S THE SOURCE OF MOST OF THE PROBLEMS INVOLVING TALENTS YOU IDIOT

>>68874835
She is part of the problem, accept it

>>68883245
It takes some incredible fucking blindness to call Selen insane when she has demonstrated nothing but restraint and careful tact up to this point, all while the other party has been slobbering and howling at her for weeks

If all of you turn out to be wrong, **I know where you live*//////////////8

>>68883726
>Japanese or Pacific Standard Time
interesting point.

>>68882832
Holospy wasn't real.Nijispy isn't real. The whole thing was organized by the parrot. He did all of this for content. He played us like a damn fiddle!

>>68883971
That's what gets me. Nothing that has come out so far has come from Selen. It's all come from the fucking company. All their bad PR and the harm being done to their reputation is because of THEM.

I believed in her until today, but she chose her side after this.

>>68884131
That's hot.

>>68884304
Thats why they have all the community against, except for a couple insane japanese fellas.

>>68874835

Why are the nijiEN members even the ones in charge of talking about this? This all felt like something that should've come from management

>>68874835
Elira is ENs head manager and has been for years.

>>68884975
Because they bullied Selen and are convinced the only ones who can save them is the company

>>68874835
>Why won't the bullies leave!?

Nijiniggers are so retarded. Kek

>>68884906
BASED

>>68884906
Deadpool was a regular donor, F

>>68884244
Parrot is playing 5D chess on us plebs

>>68882913
Before any of this went down it was already public knowledge that she had one of the worst mental health disorders a human being could possibly have and a history of going over management and being poorly responsive to things. She even got props for the latter part at points. It's pretty safe to assume that everything about her going around and undermining management is true, and that she did have fair chances to graduate leading up to this given all the details which would require that she lied about how that part went down even if everything else in the Nijisanji statement was bullshit and moralizing, which it may well be.

It's not enough reason to condemn her since the bullying is still the elephant in the living room and I'm inclined to believe that it's true and Nijisanji is still a dumpster fire regardless of all that, but there's no way she's all in the clear.

>>68879814
All my dragonsisters porn...... no....... please......

she's in japan on a work visa
get terminated by kusosanji, get deported
they're literally blackmailing talents now

>>68885875
>Defying incompetent Indian management is a mental health disorder
What?

>>68886132
You're replying to a pajeet, so I doubt your words will get through to him.

i wont judge any of them while they're still involved with a black company

>>68885875
>>68886132
Niji damagecontrol post.
>Haha it wasn't the company goy it was le jeets

>>68881100
>convenient 12 hour gap between #2 and #3
hmmmmmm
>so why this is released
I can recognize this grammatical error anywhere
silicon valley is full of them

>>68874835
She knows that she's basically blacklisted at this point outside of Niji.

She's the leader of the clique and the clique is...
4 LIFE

>Yakuzas run the company
Very plausible at this point. Vileness against those willing to step out of line (if timing the defamation video with Doki's who just wanted to have fun playing Neopets isn't then I don't know what is). Zero compassion. Offers-you-can't-refuse. Stubborness and hardheadedness of a ram.

>>68878328
If she is in the wrong, why was Niji the one to break the news about bullying?

>>68885875
Sirs please do not redeem music video until manager does the needful with the permissions. I will see you in two months sir please may health be with you.

I am willing to bet management is SKINWALKING their accounts to divert the blame to their livers!

No, I WILL NOT TAKE MY MEDS!

I'll be honest, I think everyone is shooting the messager here. Listen to what Elira said. she mentions that the document Selen sent had information about Enna AND Millie personal information. Why those two in particular? Why not anybody else? That just outrights confirms the Clique. They're having the most uncontroversial Niji be a mouthpiece in order to tank the hate they're going to get instead of the two livers that ARE at the true core of the issue at hand. Call it a rrat all you want now, but after this I have zero doubts in my mind that it's fucking real. Holobros we fucking win...

>>68874835
>A good girl
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>68885875
So basically there is zero reason to say Selen did something wrong, other than go over management's head a few times (a minor offense, for those with autism that cannot tell). She has/had BPD and that alone is suppose to be enough to assume she's masterminded this whole scheme to make Niji look like a black company and herself a saint. And its working. How can one woman be so powerful? Does Niji kneel to Dokibird?

>>68883726
yeah thats me. I really liked watching eliras P4
and jrpg streams but now i had to unsub since i dont want to watch a corporate mouthpiece

>>68885875
if this is your "obvious reason to distrust her" you seriously need to take some sort of medication.

>>68874950
Having her deliver this stream was honestly just baffling. Do they not read their own bad press? Did they think the sister dynamic was going to make some kind of impact here? Could they really not get someone other than Elira, Enna, or Millie to do that stream? Just baffling, even from a black corpo perspective.

Anyone who actually watches Elira knows she is being used against her will

>>68885875
Ganbatte intern-kun~

>>68876173
COPEnhagen

Imagine losing 2% of your subscribers in 2 hours. I know that doesn't immediately sound like a lot, 2% is nothing, but that is a real fucking fast turn around.

>throwing the entire branch under the bus
They're so closing the EN.

>>68888506
>2% is nothing
you can say that again!

>>68888712
Skinwalkers holy shit

>>68888712
Talent post or management posts?
Call it.

>>68881100
Wasn’t it Mizuchi that said that management is all Indians? And she also stated that management had favorites? Doesn’t this ESL manager fuck basically prove this

>>68874835
i hope she leaves and disavows all this. kind of taints all the time I spent watching her streams.

>>68888712
>only one (1) apostrophe post
hmm...

>>68888712
it's so fucking over
none of them can ever be trusted again
I'm sure there are a few generally good people in this bunch but Niji is going drag everyone down with them into hell

https://twitter.com/s_h_uuko/status/1757238130997150170

AYYYYYYY

>>68875456
retar

>>68889107
yes she literally said that noor would privately take luxiem out to premium, nicer restaurants than the rest xddd
vox saying no favoritism knowing what he's been gifted is so shameless

>>68875589
He’s never going to finish his dokibird video at this rate.

>>68889061
Management. It's not even a fucking question.

>>68876173
Damn, is KuroSanji copying the tactics of WACTOR now?
KEK

>>68883899
jesus lol

>>68888712
Big "this is extremely dangerous to our democracy" energy.

>>68889518
KEK

>>68888712
very creepy, like puppets on a string

>>68889518
>black companies only
LMFAO

>>68888712
>Please do the needful and redeem the stream.

>>68889985
>>68888712
I watched the video and holy shit they sound so impatient and robotic. Jesus fucking Christ

>>68876173
Some of you elirafags are way too delusional. I don't know what sauce she fed you, but when the document she illegally obtained/read lists HER and HER INFO specifically, she wasn't innocent. If she was innocent, she wouldn't have to make a statement about how her safety was at risk, that's also not how the law works, and if she was paying even a dime of attention to Doki's side, it was clear that she was not going to use any of the ammo she had unless forced.
Selen may not have been pushed to that dark edge by Elira alone, but she sure as fuck didn't try to pull her back.

>>68889518
I KNEEL

>>68874835
She's the queen of the bully clique. Millie, Enna, and Finana are her retarded goons

>>68889518
kinda hot

>>68874950
i love how people are still in denial at this point

>>68874835
Because everyone isn't like jobless troons like you. It was already pointed out that Niji en is too SJW but holy shit this "everyone should support us. otherwise you are our enemy" Amerimutt mob mentality/divisive black and white thinking is god fucking awful. I do not see any difference between Amerimutts and Chinks.

>>68889061
It's a distinction without a difference in the end, even the talent-written ones are probably made while management's breathing down their necks

>>68874950
Bingo

>>68881100
Why do they need "more" time to confirm it's ok because of two frames of ex=livers that they own the rights to, that the company insists belongs to them over the liver who plays them and continues to sell merch of them even after they graduate?

>>68876173
Let go of the cope, it's over

>>68876173
There is literally nothing doxing in what is supposed to be a legal document exchange between lawyers. It's wholly irrelevant to the case and will be redacted in the court records if they started a trial. Sharing everyone's, and I do mean everyone's, private contact and selen's medical information with Vox, Ike, Elira and anyone else niji's Lawyer gave it to...

>>68890590
probably all posted by one guy.

>>68874835
Guess she wasn't a good girl after all?

https://pastebin.com/aYs9gFvh
Here is the consolidated transcription of the video some anon asked.

>>68887740
can they skinwalk elira's mouth too?

>>68886109
Interesting point.

The fact they timed the announcement to go at the same time as Doki's is just malicious.

>>68881100
>tagging the person you're responding to in DMs
>someone really thinks people do this

>>68874835
Niji has her Jap work visa hostage

>>68892222
With the deepfake tech we have now, it is possible, but the video is definitely those three in a recording room reading off a script with how fast they were talking without a single trip in vocabulary.

>>68887934
NDF is on such massive cope that they're desperate for a W. Take the L like the losers you all are

>>68888712
>Hex
Is this "Le Truth" or what?

>>68892744
For the longest while I thought Hex was just MamaMax reincarnated, and given that MamaMax is in deep shit now that kinda makes me laugh.

>>68889518
Is it wrong to fap to this? Can I still destroy my dick to Elira?

She should graduate fr

>>68881100
I thought the Indian management thing was a rrat holy kek

>>68892690
You're actually so retarded. I don't like any Nijis period. Not after Pomu left. I'm saying that the brunt of the criticism should be to Enna and Millie instead of this bitch. Fuck niji and all their fans.

She lost 8k in 3 hours, so following this pattern... 64k in a full day.
I doubt it will be that bad, but I think she'll reach 570k.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I genuinely believe that Kurosanji is depraved enough to blackmail it's own talents with personal information so they have to pull shit like this, either read this intentionally terrible script and pull the heat towards yourselves, and away from the company or we leak it all. They're forcing these talents to align with them so their name too becomes stained and the fans won't support them when they decide to leave and make their own independent channels. They become unable to leave and keep sustaining the yacht. Why else would they hand pick three highly important streamers that define their brand and put them up to this shit and then promote it all by making all their livers tweet about it, fully aware of the oncoming backlash?

>>68888712
Where's the flower?

>>68890359
glad I'm not the only one that thought of this. very mouthpiece of the powers that be and inauthentic.

New rrat, didn't even listen to the whole video, too cringe.

What if they used AI voices instead of the real livers?

>>68893479
or they just want to stay on top as long as they can. they will be on a pile of shit now but still on top

>>68893479
>the fans won't support them when they decide to leave and make their own independent channels
That's fucking filthy if so. Maybe the play is to take the dox risk then and sue the everliving fuck out of the company afterwards.

>>68893744
And give Vox, Elira and Ike the opportunity to reveal this info and drag them further down? Yes, Niji would do something stupid like that.

>>68893744
I thought the same, but I caught lip smacking and varied breaths between sentences, still they're definitely reading off a script.

>>68893744
too easily debunked, gets no leverage over them, much more reliable to just blackmail them

what a fucking waste of a sex design and voice.

only thing that could save her now is to get terminated as soon as possible and start airing shit back at niji.

Here's my nuclear take that you can't say anywhere but here. Dying isn't fucking hard. People do it by accident everyday. If you fail an attempt, you are just doing it for attention. Sounds to me like she wasn't bullied, she was just told to follow the rules that every other talent needs to, and when she didn't get her way she threw a temper tantrum, did her little cry for attention, then pouted while she let her emergency contact deal with her employer. I'm guessing her emergency contact being her mommy.

>>68891991
Based. Oh man this goes over even worse without their voices.

>>68893479
And they were all too stupid to be recording that, unlike Selen?

>>68894279
Hey Vox, how's the suicide charity money you raised? Definitely to poor yachts in need of purchasing I bet.

>>68894279
Even Nijisanji itself hasn't disputed her suicide attempt and has medical proof from her lawyer. Women are notoriously bad at suicide.

>>68889776
No she didn't. She said she meant Riku not Noor. Noor had left a long time ago.

>>68874835
They have to find one of us in the wreckage brother

>>68893744
On the one hand, that's so stupid and legally dangerous no sane person could possibly go through with it. On the other, NijiEN's PR has been nothing short of insane.

>>68894242
Contemporary AI can do that. Shit even outdated stuff like the Argonian Dagoth Ur copypasta had breaths and lip smacking.

>>68894842
Dear god we gotta note down this rrat

>>68894489
I hope not, though we'll have to wait and see.

>>68885963
It’s so fucking joever brother ….

>>68893479
My conspiracy theory is AC isn't smart enough to have a lawyer for Niji EN, and they're freeballing their way into losing multiple court cases because they refuse to cut their losses and shut the fuck up.
Obviously AC deserves whatever shit storms their way, but I pity how much stress Doki and any innocent livers are going to have to deal with as a result.

>>68874835
Understand that Nijisanji is covering itself by showing/talking about the legal documents. Elira, Enna, and Millie are getting thrown into the oven because they are the ones being accused...

>>68889518
Kekd my fucking kidneys are past the god damn asteroid belt

I wonder: is it hard to bug yourself? If they were blackmailed, I assume they were informed by mouth, in a room without cameras, while their devices were left with staff.

>>68895238
I can definitely see that being the case as well, I hope for them their yacht sinks worse than the titanic.

>>68895436
Elira definitely volunteered for this

>>68883245
>She also doesn't want to leave because it's more stable than going indie again
If she went indie, would people follow her? I mean, people followed rushia, but still.

Rrat here, sharing this again.

I have a buddy with contacts in the criminal elements of certain countries. The contacts have stated Niji has been reaching out to them about jobs and gigs, contacts won't say what.

Something to keep in mind.

>>68891991
>[00:01:38.720 --> 00:01:46.800] But what we say on this stream is our own words and our own feelings.
Blink twice if you're under duress, Elira...

Elira is my oshi and I will continue to support her.

>>68889518
LETHALLY based

>>68896210
Riku's buying people to stock on his yacht.

>>68894513
That's my point. It wasn't a real suicide attempt, It was a woman moment. Probably did it because she knew her dumb ass was about to be shit canned and she blew through all of her money because, like the nijisister paypigs, women have poor impulse control when it comes to spending money.

She lives with her Asian parents after all. If she spent all her money and lost her job, she has an ass beating in her future. That's probably the real reason she needed some sympathy.

>>68888712
>Kyo not retweeting
Hhmmmm.

Rrat here, contacts got back to me about it.

Niji's ordering drugs to make the livers more submissive and agreeable to orders.

>>68874835
Bla bla are you fucking dumb? She's a cunt who does it voluntarily. She's NEVER a good girl even in her PL

>>68893744
I hope someone analyzing the video deeply to see if the voices match.

>>68896569
Based

>>68875589
>No Holo or henya video because Kurosanji is flooding the shitpost market

>>68876923
>NICE!, how much is their life insurance?

>>68900292
Life insurance policies never pay out in the event of sudoku.

>>68874835
It's pretty obvious why. She loves working there, and so do most of her coworkers. Selen was a fucking cancer and is trying to ruin all of their careers for money, for her own petty gain. If I was Elira I wouldn't let myself be bullied out of my job by that bitch either.

>>68891223
I was until now
I can't fuckin defend this whore any longer

>>68900292
kind of crazy because one of the benefits of my company is life insurance (500k to my family if i die, i work in a fucking office lmao)

>>68901604
Posting on 4chan isn't going to get you your subscribers back, Enna.

>>68885565
Parrotgod I kneel

>>68883899
My sides!, My sides!, SoME cATch my Sides! they are in orbit!

>>68901604
Go back to your doxsite sister. You're out of your league here. If not, hi Enna and Millie! Hope everything is going horribly for you two, pigfucks.

>>68903036
what part of that wasn't right though? Selen is literally willing to ruin the lives of dozens of "friends" for her own financial gain. She only cares about herself

>>68888712
What the fuck is happening. This is like the Goetterdamerung of vtubing.

Imagine wielding your talents as both a weapon and a shield. Imagine being so unprofessional you put them on the front lines and hope their fans come to bat for you. I guess that speaks volumes about their confidence in their court case.

>>68874835
Because she's the mastermind behind all of this obviously

>>68903266
Every bad thing that happened is the result of Kurosanji. Selen didn't name her bullies, Niji told us about that. Selen was content keeping everything quiet and behind the curtain, but Niji wasn't. Selen was going to move on and not name names, but then Niji held several up as a shield. Selen didn't do shit.

>>68876173
>She said she was scared of having her personal info leaked.
Here's what happened
Ellira doesn't have a mean bone in her body. What she does have is white girl bone, which means she probably was legitimately scared of having her personal information leaked and when she voiced her concerns she was coddled instead of being told she was retarded. Also other nijis agreed with her because they're retarded too. And management has already shown they have no ability to stop a shitshow once its on the tracks.
Selen has BPD so that explains the rest.

>>68893479
They're gangraping Elira and forcing drug injections in her as we speak, in sick and depraved rituals involving old business men and stock holders.

>>68889518
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>>68901604
Enna, you bitch, using your own friend as a meatshield. If I were you, I would have requested for the video to be posted somewhere else, either the Niji EN official or your own channel. But no, you scared piece of wimp had to ask Elira to risk her livelihood to protect you. I know she was willing to help but you son of a bitch scared motherfucker should take responsibility for your own wrongdoings.

>>68904363
Selen didn't do shit? She's currently backstabbing her old co-workers, and has already admitted to breaking the law by recording someone without their consent.

>>68876173
>Elira doesn’t have an evil bone in her body; you can tell just from watching her streams alone
and I'm sure you'd believe a stripper if she said she loves you

>>68905154
not illegal in canada friend

>>68905154
>She's currently backstabbing her old co-workers
No, that's kurosanji pitting the talents against her. Try to keep up. Quitting and suing a bad company is not an attack on anyone else inside the company. Niji isn't so low on funds their little company is at risk of drying up. Or at least it wasn't before they started shitflinging and giving themselves a bad name, making investors distance themselves.

at this point the entire EN branch is gonna fall apart

>>68874835
welp

>>68905154
Up to this point you actually can't find a single statement from her where she lays blame on any coworker. Not a single one. She has been completely clean.

>>68874950
Fpbp

2 minutes into Riku's video and I'm baffled at the difference in professionalism compared to the trainwreck I've just seen a few hours ago. Even though what he says is about appreciating the talents is bullshit considering they never mailed out play buttons or did other little things that could've improved liver morale, if NijiEN only put out this video and silently worked out the legal situation in the background, they never would have lost fans or had their stock price dip hard.

>>68905154
Nijisanji is the one who backstabbed their own workers anon. Elira flat out implicated herself, Millie, and Enna in the court case. Recording someone without consent is also allowed in Canada, which Millie and Enna are PROUD to point out as they live there.

>>68904410
Oh shit that would explain a lot. Management told Elira some legal document from Selen had info in it and then her, Enna, and Millie start harassing Selen. Things fall apart.

>>68904363
She didn't name her bullies because she wasn't bullied she blew through her money and was about to be fired so she tried to sue her company and coworkers. Only now that everyone in her corner and is throwing money at her does she not need to sue, but since everyone being in her corner means shitting on nijisanji they need to set the record straight to stop their stock and subscribers from free falling. She wanted to end the game while she was ahead, but the truth is going to come out and she is about to lose her bag so she is lawyering up.

>>68905603
Imagine being thrown under a fucking bulldozer.

>>68894268
Just another case of an otherwise attractive and talented person being a complete piece of shit. Might as well call it waste of an existence.

>>68874835
She doesn't see herself having done anything wrong.

Elira you fucking retard
The company is not your ally
They fucked your reputation more than Selen ever could have

>>68874835
>western woman
There's your answer.

>>68906196
Millie or enna?
Place your bets

>>68906196
>She didn't name her bullies because she wasn't bullied
Oh, and who are you that you know this? I would more likely trust someone who actually worked behind the scenes with her. Maybe. But her bullies are also very likely to say such things. So why are you out here trying to fight a court case that should be fought in courts... using evidence... by people who know the situation?
> she blew through her money and was about to be fired so she tried to sue her company and coworkers.
Funny thing... she blew through that money promoting said company and elevating them THROUGH herself. Things Niji should have paid for because it was all to their benefit. But she paid it out of pocket because she was that selfless. GASP! What an awful person she must be!

> but since everyone being in her corner means shitting on nijisanji
Fun fact: Shitting on Niji is the direct result of NIJI'S PUBLIC ACTIONS. Not anything Selen herself has said. They exposed THEMSELVES to all this criticism. We might not even know Selen attempted suicide had they not told us first. We wouldn't know she had bullies. We wouldn't see other talents attacking her. All Nijisanji's fault. Indisputably.

>>68905603
too bad the downvote thing doesn't actually work anymore. The only people that download that extension are the people that want to downvote shit, it takes a tiny sample size and extrapolates.

>>68906837
Selen is such a garbage human being. Imagine dragging every friend you have through the mud, the company that made you rich, all your coworkers...just to make a buck and prove a point. I hope she feels guilty knowing everyone hates her guts except xitter troons and bandwagon dramawhores

>>68907342
It was disgusting for Youtube to take it away, yes. All to safeguard terrible corporations from embarrassment.

>>68877388
>Who wouldn't mention having a dog after all these years?
I bought the opsec excuse she had of wanting to keep some things private, but looking back at it I can't trust her.

>>68907626
Selen... didn't do that though? When did she ever name someone as her bully? She didn't. Could have easily though.
>Imagine dragging every friend you have through the mud
She badmouthed no one.
> the company that made you rich
So rich she had to pay out of pocket for every tournament and event she wanted to do that she broke even last year, lol. Imagine being so tight with your best talent who wants to promote your company. They hit the jackpot hiring her until... well, until they fucked up and fired her.

>>68907012
Definitely Enna but all this toxic behavior was enabled by Kyo. That's why Kyo is running away asap before he gets vindicated.

>>68907059
Don't get me wrong nips are bad at this whole PR shit they think you can just be polite and shit will go away, but no you need to come with the receipts. Which is what they did today, but now no one will listen because they already made up their mind. You have to be on that shit the day it's happening as for the money she said she spent 200k this year but didn't say all of that was on projects. I think she said the MV was 14k do the math on that do you think she had 14 projects of that scope and expense during the year or is it just all the cash she blew because she is bad with money. I bet that's the real reason her management wanted her to stop handing out cash prizes for stuff. Poor impulse control.

>>68907814
yeah, the lack of transparency is pretty pathetic. No one is allowed to feel sad, updoots only!

>>68908101
are you being obtuse? Elira just came out and said Selen threw a bunch of them under the bus to the lawyers

>>68907626
I mean Selen did say that they opened her trap card not the other way around. If kurosanji was smarter and actually competent for once, that would have just placed another white text statement refuting Selen and explaining the doxx and stopped livers from saying anything in a stream on their channels. Because of their incompetency everything is spiraling out of control. The most rational person so far is Scarle for saying she will ban anyone talking about this. Blame the company, never the workers.

>>68888380
She was easy to blackmail by threatening to revoke weeb work visa

>>68908931
that's fair. I still think this is mostly on Selen for being an impatient menhera psycho, but AC couldn't have handled this worse if they tried. This has been the shittiest PR job I've ever seen, it reads like a fucking
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rrat bulletpoint list some schizo typed up here

I still can't believe all this shit is happening, still feel like I'm dreaming.

>>68908530
>Which is what they did today, but now no one will listen because they already made up their mind
They came with the receipts in the most offensive way possible, practically designed to make this market rebel against them. I agree that a lot of people made up their minds already, I disagree that they couldn't have done it better.
>1) Even Japan doesn't often tolerate the idea of talent being used as a shield so I don't know why they thought that shit would fly today. Whether the talent agreed to it or not it was a bad idea to do it this way
>2)Not taking the high road. Obvious smear campaign, whether right or wrong. Someone took whatever Selen did personally and tried hard to get back at her rather than minimizing the damage. They slipped in the pig pen and wonder why they're getting covered in shit
>3)Weak af arguments like "I'm scared, my name is on legal documents, uwu" The moment you move with a foundation this weak the rest of your argument falls apart. People who were skeptical will be driven firmly into the opposing camp if you pull shit like this.
I don't think Selen was in the right, but Nijisanji is doing their best to toss out any advantage they might have had in this situation
>Poor impulse control
sounds like bpd, yeah.

>>68908886
Selen presented evidence intended for lawyers eyes ONLY. Facts for them to sort through so they can determine guilt or not. Why is doxing info, present in documents ONLY going to be seen by lawyers any of their concern? Why are they REVIEWING CONFIDENTIAL COURT CASE INFORMATION? They're livers, unless they're also secretly Njis defense attorneys! What a twist that would be.

Frankly, I don't care if a few of the talents think "this isn't how events played out" that's not their place anyway.

>>68876173
>Elira doesn’t have an evil bone in her body; you can tell just from watching her streams alone.
she's a performer you drooling retard

>>68888712
Why do they puppet the accounts and not have a corporate main for this?

>>68909346
they were told by their own lawyers it was fine to discuss. So either they have shitty lawyers, or what Selen presented wasn't protected by any sorts of confidentiality

>>68909536
I hear Omega is still looking for work...

>>68888712
Incredibly jeeted. Reads like a Hindi comment section LOL

>>68907012
Millie can't form thoughts that complex.

>>68909536
Nijisanji as a brand is objectively dead in the west, but the livers still have some amount of good will, as seen in this thread.
Therefore, if they want people to believe a message, they send it through the liver's accounts, not their corporate account.

>>68909607
I'd bet on shitty lawyers, all HR complaints are automatically protected in Canada, and Canadian citizens, even when working for foreign companies in Canada, are protected.
Any of the livers seeing the legal complaint is an easy dunk in court for doki; Niji outright admitting they leaked an official HR complaint to the accused is quite literally a summary judgement moment in Canadian court. Niji won't get a jury trial.

>>68909607
Selens lawyer coaching for what to say seems competent enough that I'm 100% sure they wouldn't be sending anything without a confidentiality clause. Unlike whatever jeet ass shit nijis "lawyers" (university of Mumbai) are doing.

Verification not required

>>68909607
Its extremely likely that Nijisanji just hired shitty lawyers because they were the cheapest. The fact of the matter is that they aren't just following Japanese law, but Canadian law now, and in NijiEN's attempt to get ahead of the story they've just implicated 3 of their own talents in a legal situation, and showed evidence that was not meant to be seen by anyone but Nijisanji's legal department. That could be in violation of one of Canada's Privacy acts, and that could also land them in legal trouble if that course ever makes it to a Canadian court of law.

>It was Selen's fault management acted in ways not even the craziest rrats could have predicted!
All they had to do was Yugo her and noone would be any wiser.

>>68910965
>yugo
yeah makes me wonder what happened behind the scenes with this bitch now. wonder if it was as nasty as this is

>>68888712
The only thing I can think of is that either they are literally puppeteering the accounts, or they told all their EN employees "If we can't do damage control, we're shutting down your branch and you're all fired"

>>68911075
yugo accidentally leaked a discord shot of the manager going apeshit about the channel's youtube metrics and tagging yugo repeatedly in the middle of a stream
you bet your ass it was just as nasty as this

>>68907342
it works in a sense. normal videos don't have crazy downvote ratios.

while it isn't accurate, ratios like that means there is drama, or at the least a loud minority, which is obvious already.

>>68911075
It was really nasty but it was early and faith was high.

>>68910160
Canada sure has fucked laws that are backwards from most of the world. Not this in particular, just every time anything is mentioned its always "nope not like that in Canada lol!"

>>68905696
watch how nijisisters completely ignore that gentlelady act of Selen. They just want to make up in their minds Selen is an enemy, but the true enemy to nijisanji was their own malice and lack of proffessionalism.

>>68874950
Yep, it's this. Reminder that someone was calling her out even before she got into niji >>/vt/thread/2172154#p2192546

>>68910746
doesn't the fact that it implicates Elira and others in it give them the right to see the accusations against them? if all this goes to court they'd be seeing it anyway

>>68889872
Nijisanji legit trying work him to death

>>68874835
She HAD to make that fucking video just to torture my poor boy...

>>68912973
Only if they're actual defendants.

>>68905696
uh, you're conveniently leaving out the part where she literally drafted up legal documents to shit all over Elira and friends

>>68912962
>>2177525
he was right

>>68913022
He can rest when NijiEN is 6 feet under

>>68887553
cause she just wanted to leave it be and move on, are you serious?

>>68913022
They just had to fuck him over right when he's about to release the video

>>68913154
uh, sister
>i want to file a harassment complaint
>ok, whodunit?
>this girl, that girl, and that girl
>okay we will ask Anycolor about their legal names as part of the discovery process

>>68912973
The thing is, we never knew who the actual bullies were prior to all this. It was speculated that it was Enna and Millie as well as management, but we never had actual proof until Elira herself also implicated herself in this shit. It proved the rrats were right and raises even further questions as to what else was going on in this branch, and now you cant wonder much of Elira's kayfabe was a cold and calculating lie.
If management and Elira + friends were smart, they would have kept their head down and never said anything. Now they're public enemy number one and they will never live this down.

>>68885963
>>68895128
On the bright side, all the dragon sister hatesex is now real

>CAPCHA: 4HAX
so close

>>68913022
Parrot if you're watching; please release a new video. I genuinely really enjoy them.

>>68905154
>breaking the law by recording someone without their consent.
No she didn't. recording someone without their consent is legal in canada, you fucking retard.

>>68905154
Doki's in a one-party recording country, and nearly every single lawyer on the planet will say record everything you can if you believe you're being harassed at work -- even in two party consent states.

>>68874950
fpbp

>>68889518
>>68904586
https://twitter.com/s_h_uuko/status/1757279302742356228

With colors

Ever cosmidered that she just genuinely dislikes selen and didn’t need ro be forced to do this

>>68913937
A brazillian dramanigger astroturfs this board or fags actually watch his videos, which is worse?

>>68913676
There are no bullies. Selen did something that she was EXPLICITLY told not to do. Everyone was like "Why you do the thing that you were told not to do?" She cried "boo hoo everyone is against me!" This is why she never went into details about the bullying because it wasn't really bullying.

>>68917397
Second. 1view can screech into the void.

>>68874835
Why would a villain leave her lair?

>>68917486
>Management doesn't do it's job for over a year to the extent that AAA multi-billion dollar megacorps are tweeting at her telling Selen she can just DM them for perms SO THE PERMS ACTUALLY GET PROCESSED BEFORE THE NEW GAME EoS's

>>68917110
>cosmidered

>>68917486
>She didn't go into detail about the bullying because of the lynch mob of furious harassers
I can't imagine why she didn't name names and instead tried to downplay it. Only for Niji to self-report that it was the talents then the retard trio confirming which livers it was.

>>68909346
There was a specific part right after this that said "This information pertained to us suffered a risk of going public", their point of reference is that things could do public, fucking retard.

>>68917801
They only said they thought a case had a possibility of being filed. No case was in the works, and information like their real names and addresses would be redacted in such circumstances.

>>68874835
>AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WAS WORRIED FOR MY SAFETY BECAUSE LAWYERS SENT A DOCUMENT TO OTHER LAWYERS THAT WAS CONFIDENTAL AND FOR THEIR EYES ONLY AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
Hope she burns alive with the rest of her clique and the faggot males

>>68917801
Except that would be redacted?

>>68874950
fpbp

>>68874835
they got her by the balls

>>68917801
Why would confidential court documents surface for public consumption? Selen has had more careful discretion involving information about her case than Niji has, at this point.

>>68889872
thats what i thought
>finally i can post the vide-
niji releases statement
>ok i guess I'll add a bit to it, good thing it came out before i posted the video
niji releases another statement
>alright a bit more work but i'm finally done
niji rel-
>CAN YOU PLEASE STOP BEING RETARDED FOR 5 MINUTES!? JUST FUCKING LET ME POST THE DAMN VIDEO

>>68917486
THERE ARE NO BULLIES IN NIJISANJI

>>68917715
The hate mob was already going. I know. I was a part of it. All they needed to do is show the proof that the bitch fucked up and it's all her fault. Seriously how are you all this retarded, One side has shown proof the other hasn't. Unless Selen can show some hard evidence she was bullied she can go fuck off. We know she likes to secretly recorded people after all she should have plenty if it's true.

>>68907626
>>68909224
You are a subhuman corporate shill.

>>68918760
well unlike the retards at kurosanji, she not going to share proof after lawyering up. so cry more.

>>68918760
There's a difference between speculation and this is what happened.
She's given the proof for the lawyers to slap it out over.
You seem extremely upset that Selen recorded a conversation showing that Nijisanji is selectively enforcing rules, showing favoritism, and going out of its way to discriminate and harrass her.

>>68894279
Dying is fucking hard (as someone who survived suicide attempt and spent three days on intensive care, two weeks in psych ward and almost a year on medication after). Even mentally ill have survivorship instincts that kick in, and overcoming them ain't easy. And even if you overcome them, it's pretty surprising what today's medicine can save (on my room I had a young guy who jumped out of third floor, had both legs fixed and was learning to walk again).

>>68919098
Obviously you didn't follow the Kurt Cobain playbook.

>>68878540
>Have we started the firing?

>>68874835
>All anyone had to do was just shut the fuck up and let Punished Selen play neopets
>And maybe not call firing one of your better livers a negligible impact in the first place so you don't get investors up your ass
It's turning into a fucking anime lmao

>>68919172
Not him but there's a pretty disgustingly high survival rate sadly.

>>68884975
They want to deflect the blame from themselves onto the talents and sic their rabid fans onto Doki to intimidate her into silence

>>68918926
Anon…

>>68919012
It's already being hashed out in the court of public opinion though. The problem is people are retarded.

Seriously watching people parrot garbage on twitter when they just need to take a step back and look at the whole picture for this to make sense.

Why doesnt the cancer just leave the body bros

>>68919352
Yes! The firing rate rises!

>>68917486
>NIjiEN: There are no bullies.
>NijiEN: The bullies were some of the livers.
People who always tell the truth never have to keep up with their lies.

>>68874835
Can some tldr about what happened in niji?

If I were to give her the benefit of the doubt I would say there is probably something in her contract that would make it difficult for her to leave

>>68881100
i can't stop laughing at how making a video and paying for it herself was her grave sin that she apparently deserves to be destroyed over. it's so fucking funny to me.

>>68919672
There's a difference between speculation and you did this this and that on these days.

Financial slavery. I suspect most of their livers are in debt.

>>68893479
Nigisanji has always had an incredibly vindictive streak as seen with Zaion's termination last year

>>68874835
Elira's fate is already sealed.

>>68881100
this only says shes a brainless chimp

>>68894545
Why would you think that? Noor is literally named.

>>68893479
you are just a delusional shut-in low iq tranny. dont even reach the level of conspiracy theorist.

>>68919772
>Niji doesn't do their job with perms or literally anything to the extent that AAA multi-billion dollar megacorporations are tweeting at her directly begging her to just DM them for any perm so she can just stream the new fucking games.
>Makes shit the fuck up to screw with Selen
>Did it for over a year and a half
>Doesn't apply it to anyone else
>Shit she's getting hit for everyone else is getting away with
>Spend 15k and over a year working on an MV
>Management doesn't know what a fucking calendar is and has alzheimers
>We good to ship?
>Management doesn't respond for nearly 2 days
>Asspull a rule about not showing graduated livers when their own shit shows them, new projects will show them, and Niji owns the IP for them anyway
>Asks her to wait while he gets confirmation about the graduated livers after ghosting her for nearly 2 days
>Selen.webm
>Hey I've privated it until I get confirmation and there's a chance you may need to edit it a bit before we can public it again
>Aaaiiiieeee! management privated the vod please feel free to reupload it. sorry this happened on Christmas
>(Literally all her money. All $15,000 went into this MV)
>(The graduated livers are literally njisanji property)
>AIIIIIIEEEE YOU SAID WE PRIVATED IT, YOU NEED TO SAY WE PRIVATED IT CAUSE IT HAS EX-LIVERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Selen attempts home cooking.... Attempts.... https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1754946895951077887
>Badger her while she's hospitalized to the point her medical contact has to get a lawyer
>Tries to leave on good terms
>Niji goes scorched earth and terminates one of their most successful EN livers after failing to do their job for nearly 3 years
>Didn't even tell her, she found out when people were retweeting the termination notice at her
>Selen says yeah there's problems but let's move on to a better future
>Niji statement reveals that she was bullied by other livers specifically annihilating niji rep and bringing hate mobs on the talents
>Release a two sentence investor report saying her termination will have negligible financial impact
>Have Elira w/ Ike and vox host an exactly 15 minute hate of corpospeak today at the exact same time as Selen streaming Neopets claiming they're at risk of doxing from Selen, showing 6 messages about the MV without the year+ of other messages and perms regarding it, and crying they thought they knew her
>Confirm who the suspected bullies are when she lists who's in the papers
>Vox crying he was recorded confirming inequal enforcement and punishemt
>(Plap plap plap get one-party consent'd! get one-party consent'd!)
>(It's believed to be contact information as part of normal lawyer documents when gathering a case)
>(This is confidential information not to be shared with random anime girls)
>(Elira, Vox, and Ike are confirmed glue eater tier retarded when all that info would be redacted and the case would never go to a jury trial anyway)
>Total Tazumi death https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ
Selen just wanted to play neopets and be happy.

>>68876173
Elira is that you

>We were immediately notified of her hospitalization

Millie the entire day on tweeter
>Tummy hungy UwU

>>68909536
Hardly anyone follows the NijiEN Twitter and management wants to cast as wide a net as possible.

>>68919812
Selen broke the rules and spoke out instead of knowing her place like the trash she is. That's basically the mentality that has been codified inside NijiEN. Keep in mind NijiEN was able to get away with this behavior because the fans had complete faith in the company, had this happened a year ago before Luxiem's downfall, the AR live cancellation, and Zion's public execution they very well could have fired Selen with minimal backlash.