/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ALL OUT CIVIL WAR

>>68865839
Is this the final yab?

>>68865839
It's actually vile as shit she planned her first gaming stream and they ALL COLLAB to put out a statement shitting on her lmfao

That lawyer document is gonna hit later

>>68865839
She'll put out a statement along with the next round of merch.

>>68866645
did they really?

More like mutually assured destruction. No-one, not even Selen, will walk out this unscathed.

>>68867937
It was basically "throw selen under the bus" the stream. They were obviously reading scripts but still.

>>68867937
Timed exactly when she went live. She just cut the stream because she really wasn't taking it well. They relentlessly are fucking the vibes up when all messaging she's put out is that she wants to just move on from it

>>68866595
Yes

>>68868169
>>68868327
those fuckers, how could they stomp on the sanctity of neopets like this, too cruel

>>68865839
You are lost already selen

>>68866595
For NijiEN maybe. They shared documents only meant for selen, selen's lawyers and Niji's lawyers with niji livers. That basically drags all communications with all livers into the suit instead of just stuff between them and selen because everyone is comprised now because the retards admitted to it on stream. We may get full discord logs of everyone once it goes to court.

WAR WE'RE GOING TO WAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D1gvAV-UWA

>>68868327
aww boohoo poor little baby making $200k selling plastic shit to holobronies isn't taking the TRUTH well.

someone post the niji sub count after the video lol

>>68865839

68868880
Bait

>>68868880
HI MILLIE PINOYNANOY!!

>>68868131
Nah, she’ll be a martyr and escape a 5 view, they could’ve done nothing and let her fade to the background as a low mid 4 view, but all out war will bring this to be the top story of the year

>>68865839
What statement did Niji release? Was it the one that stated she was graduating? Or was there another?

Also, she has receipts of her actually being bullied and discriminated against? Gawd damn

she or one of her dragoons should record the stream, don't let the slimeballs try and memoryhole this in their next incarnation.

>>68869551
Hi loser, love losing?

The final yab
soon

>>68869231
Hello fellow argie.

Anyone have the timestamp for when she said that? I missed the stream

>>68869748
I don't know, do YOU Millie? Those lost subs are never coming back

>>68869622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

15 minutes on the dot of page turning, produced by management statements for each person to read

>>68865839
TOTAL

NIJI

DEATH

>>68868131
Isn't it beautiful?

>>68869695
Way ahead of you.

>>68869748
See you at Walmart, Millie

just bear in mind that Anycolor could've easily avoided this entire situation if they simply hired actual managers instead of letting the livers manage each other, this is the future Riku chose, hope the yacht was worth it lil bro

>>68866595
Honestly? Yes

>>68869959
The fuck. That sounds completely disingenuous? Why was it Elira that wanted the statement on her channel

>>68866595
For nijien? Probably.

>>68865839
BURN BABY BURN

>>68870286
My genuine bet is she didn't, and considering the radio silence from rosemi, her and petra while they're all confirmed in japan, this is probably punishment in its own way for the least involved parties

>>68868131
as someone from outside looking in. She will likely gather even more people around her because of this. If she is in the right as she claims it's gonna get worse for her old company. This sounds like a PR disaster.

The final yab...has finally come.

>we will live to see millie working at walmart

>>68870104
>>68869932
3k losers compared to the houndreds of thousands? There's already people defending niji en. We won you lost

so niji management release a document only they were supposed to see? the fuck?

>>68870514
Yes. The document was under a NDA and Nijisanji broke the NDA by showing it to the livers.

>>68870180
They could literally just let the video get released and let doki graduate like mysta/Nina and shit talk them for a month then everything is over

>>68870514
No way her company is that retarded, right? RIGHT?

>>68865839
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757218064058155099

>>68870940
What a bunch of cunts. They didn’t release that document outside of their company right?

So she doesn’t get doxxed

>>68870940
>only i'm allowed to leak private shit
kwab

>>68870376

>>68871143
They leaked it to the bullies

>>68871183
She never leaked anything private

>>68870940
We're gonna need more than this, doki.

>>68870833
They are flailing around like a chicken without its head...this is the death rattles for anycolor.

>>68870940
they probably thought the NDA didn't apply to them because japanese company

>>68870940
Canada has strict privacy laws. Nijisanji could seriously be fucked if they did that

>>68871183
recording a conversation you are literally part of and only sharing it with your lawyer and the other side's lawyer is not leaking private information. Dumbass.

>>68871432
she said would be releasing a document after stream sometime, this is probably preliminary

>>68865839
this will now most likely go to trial in some form something they both initially wanted to avoid congrats kurosanji play stupid games win stupid prizes

>>68871432
Well if you actually watched streams she straight-up said that because of this she's going to be released EVERYTHING to the public
So you'll get your wish

>>68870940
>leaked medical documents
oh baby thats illegal

>>68870461
>houndreds

Lmao you dumb SEA creature, learn how to spell

>>68871542
Yes I'm sure a Japanese company is going to be fucked by Canadian laws lmao.

>>68871766
it will and canadian government will even foot the bill

>>68870940
leaking documents complaining about harassment to the harassing parties, AND THEN ADMITTING TO IT is some pure retardation I'd only expect from nijiEN

>>68870940
I don't know if Japan has HIPAA or some form of it but if Selen's lawyers make that argument she probably owns Nijisanji by the end of the year

she's back in bros

>>68870940
What an absolutely stunning series of own goals. Went from the yacht striking an iceberg and taking on a leak, to drifting it into Bikini Atoll.

>>68871766
Chances are they formed a business in Canada for NijiEN (which is why they hire Canadians for management) and Canadian laws absolutely apply to a Canadian subsidiary

>>68871902
Yes tell me more about how Canada has jurisdiction over a Japanese company.

>>68871902
Japanese gov, canadian gov will ask niji to pay, if niji doesnt japan will and then niji will get fucked

>>68865839
>I have receipts
>I will make them public
https://youtu.be/A1YCUbQOJB0?t=890

>>68872094
yes, most of NA, EU and Japan have an economic and other treaties that ensure mutual cooperation in matters like these

>>68868481
For NijisanjiEN and possibly AnyColor as a whole, but the rest of Vtubing will be better off on the other side.

>>68871657
yeah very illegal at least were im from it is

>>68872119
did they block receiving money from canada?

this will trigger the WW3 no one expected but secretly wanted all along: Canada vs Japan

>>68866595
The Yab of '24 is going to make The Bite of '87 look like child's play.

>>68866645
Wait what? Spoon feed me please

>>68870461
>houndreds
Are all nijisiters brown retards?

>>68872302
As far as I know it's illegal in all non third world countries. They are so fucked

>>68872718
>selen aka dokibird says she wants to move on and say nothing more about the niji drama
>plans her first gaming stream as dokibird
>niji releases a hitpiece stream against her and overlaps doki's gaming stream
>doki finds out during stream and starts breaking down, says she will have to talk to lawyer and will be releasing all her receipts to public now
Niji just shot itself

>>68872278
>>68872094

PPI is regonized by most of the first and even third world man.

You don't fuck with medical records and you don't fuck with the taxes.

>>68866595
This has a 4/5 chance of killing NijiEN. Niji will live, but this is going to kill them in the west.

>>68868131
if they take it to the court, it's going to be years of hearing and that is not what Doki need right now.

Why can’t those bastards just leave her alone? They are some spiteful bastards

>>68872778
>Thirdies on the wrong side of history, AGAIN
Like pottery

>>68873291
They(Anycolor) are most likey doin this thinkin that their stocks will go back up after losing so much value in the last week.

>>68869231
Based Quino.

>>68873167
Isn’t what she said “she’s worried that her medical records were leaked” because of this? Not confirming it? Masterful bait if so

>>68865839
Kurosanji management: "Trust me guys, just read this script and we'll let you stream again. You will regain your followers too."
Selen: "...All I'm gonna say is I hear some lies being told; I will be putting out a statement later with more evidence supporting my claims."
Kurosanji management: "FUCK"

I'm shocked that they haven't already privated the vod after seeing the shitstorm in the comments. I can't wait to see what Riku has to say in a few hours. If he's smart, he won't release any statement until he hires a competent English PR team.

>>68873221
they might be trying to drag this out to get doki to try to end it all again with the constant slander, and then they can just blame it on bpd

>>68871766
Yes. If a japanese company released a canadian citizen's medical records after she was fired from the company; canada the country is going to ask japan the country to sanction the company involved. If this is true it is very likely that nijisanji will be no longer allowed to operate in canada. It doesnt matter if selen was wrong or a bitch or personally poisoned every niji liver and manager's grandmothers, if she really went to the hospital and nijisanji really shared her medical records to en managers or livers the branch is dead.

>>68865839
Because Niji broke the NDA I wonder if Doki is taking the nuclear option and taking them to curt getting everyone doxed. She said she had a statement planed by her layer if Niji doxed her.

>>68872977
Holy fucking shit....
They have actual shit for brains.

>>68874107
>If he's smart
He's not though.

>>68869231
I dun get it

>>68868327
>They relentlessly are fucking the vibes up
Well yeah, that's bullying 101. Constantly ruin your targets ability to just chill out.
If they're doing this in public I can only imagine how bad it was behind the scenes. no wonder she started recording them.

>>68872977
It didn't just overlap, they started it at the exact same time.

>says she is going to move on
>names her fanbase after her old one even though it doesnt make sense given her model
>is still constantly talking about it every day
So much for moving on lmao. Niji is rent free in her head forever.

>>68875263
They quite literally put out a statement video after she very specifically asked her fans and dramaniggers to bury it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_vhqibEwLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4

>>68870397
>least involved
Elira is in the clique that was harassing selen, her name is in the lawsuit for workplace harassment along with enna and millie

mafia tactics 100%

>>68875263
>is still constantly talking about it every day
Its almost like this is all pretty recent dumbass

>>68866595
For NijiEN? Possibly, but not certainly.
For NijiJP/Anycolor as a whole? I don't think so. It will be a loss, especially for the investors, but not a loss so big that would force them to quit.

>>68875676
Doki after the stream:

https://youtu.be/UneS2Uwc6xw?si=k6oaDMicjGqfxyVJ

so many livers are retweeting that stream on twitter
TRUST NO ONE

>>68871183
>leak private shit
where exactly was anything leaked?

>>68875125
anon that's overlapping, selen stream was at 5 pacific and then niji made an impromptu speech at 5 pacific

>>68865839
she just wanted to play neopets...

What a fucking crazy time we live in where I'm all behind rooting for Doki here.
Niji is making themselves look like fucking retards and she made the right choice going indie. Holy shit this is insane

Have the documents actually leaked or are we going on what was confirmed on elira's stream?

>>68876027
Would Japanese companies, with how strict they are, even entertain doing business with a company who basically admitted to sharing confidential legal documents to outside parties? Streaming it to an live audience, no less?

>>68876528
Niji didn't release anything other than like 3 nothingburger screenshots from discord. Doki said she is going to be releasing ALL the receipts soon because they couldn't leave her alone

>>68876528
>Have the documents actually leaked
no. they say as if they were but nothing was leaked to the public. what kurosanji did was "leak" those documents to their talents to drag them into this

>>68876528
They were leaked in the sense that nobody other than Selen, management and their lawyers were supposed to have those documents.
And management shared it with the talents.

> Doesn't follow corpo rules even though she signed a contract
> Throws a tantrum on twitter
> An Hero attempt (clearly menhera)
> Only Niji/Ex Niji that comes to her defence is doing it for clout ( Zaion) no else is siding with her
> Is clearly unable to take care of herself ( was unaware of being down 200k)

Niji being dark as void aside, why are so many ppl dickriding selen like she can't do no wrong?

>>68876528
sounds like they leaked internally to the talents who weren't supposed to see them anyways... SELEN'S FAULT THOUGH

>>68874040
elira already leaked the fact that sealed legal documents were shared with people that arent lawyers. not a big leap to think shes retarded enough to leak private medical information too

>>68876844
She's stupid, Niji is retarded

>>68876528
The allegation is documents were shared with other livers. Which is not part of the agreement she had with them.

>>68876528
no, but niji are apparently afraid they would be so they tried to get out ahead of it and decided to slander some more. doki may release them now because they wont give it up.

>>68865839
Legit did the "can't think of anything so I'll just say fake news" argument.

>>68876844
I like futanari so Selen dick a gogo baby

>>68876844
Congrats on coming out as a retard

>>68876844
>Doesn't follow RETARDED corpo rules
>says fuck you I'm gonna die standing publiclly
>plays sudoku badly
>Only ex-Niji that comes to her side is Zaion who was clearly slandered and defamed for irrelevant bullshit
>unaware of being down 200K due to giga depression from being bullied by the evillest company on earth
Nah Selen is still based, cope and choke bootthroater

>>68866595
Yes. We live to see the final yab, bros. NijiEN is no more.

>>68876844
Stupid but knowing when to fold versus stupid and keep shooting themselves is just hard to watch.

I want to see where this fireball leads. As long as Selen continues to stand, Nijisanji as we know it is on a direct path to change. If she backs down, the status quo returns.

>>68866595
The company literally admitted to breaking the law and also (presumably) forced others to take part in that + slander... so yes.

The worst part is Selen isn't even a huge earner for Anykara. I'd have expected something this petty to have happened for someone like Gibara, but this? This is too much for too little.

>>68876642
>a company who basically admitted to sharing confidential legal documents to outside parties?
If their own workers, most likely namedropped more than once and quite strongly associated with the accuser, count as outside parties, then yes.
I'm not saying that Niji was right to do that, but I also don't know japanese law and understanding of such issues for rather obvious reasons.
What's a grave sin in Leafland might be a nothingburger in Nipland.

>>68866595
For NijiEn, this is so fucking unbelievably grim, and COMPLETELY self inflicted when their 'opponent' never wanted to fight, and walked away, AND told all the fans to walk away.
Unbelievable hubris, and retardation.

>>68866595
Of course not, it's Niji EN.
They are probably going to still do worse, somehow

>>68872686
Don't you have some rehearsing to do, Milord.

Seriously though, lining up to overlap Doki so she would catch wind of this. Do you think this could be some 4D chess to entrap her to showing receipts and she'll get caught or is niji just that dumb?

>Company stock tanks 10%
>"Guy's let's make our livers make a statement against her, this will not lead to them getting harrassed by the already pissed-off fanbase that's totally not going to paint targets on their backs!"

Anyways how long until they get fired too?

Word of advice for any black companies out there accused of maliciously bullying and harassing talents and being taken to court over it.

Don't maliciously stream over said talent's first gaming stream after departing from you. That will 100% be used in court.

>jwu
QRD please, what has Nijiniggers done to Doki now

>>68871766
They can't sue a foreign employee in Japan, it has to be in the other country unless all parties agree to do it in Japan.

>>68866595
YES BURN IT ALL DOWN

>>68874143
Slander her into another attempt is so insane that it might be their actual strategy

Why send these 3 livers to the front? Is it pressure from the other talents saying they were tired from being suspected for the actions of those 3?(because management mentioned livers bullying Selene in the 3 page statement). Or did management decide to send those 3 for another reason? If so why put a target on those 3's backs. What the fuck is Nijisanji thinking?

>>68873327
The only ones sucking niji cock are firsties like the japs and simp incel whiteys.

>>68865839
Doki on the right Niji on the left

chinese triad incoming?

>>68876844
The only stupid thing Selen did is trying to off herself because of a bunch of chink whores (especially when she's more familiar than anyone about their ways)

>>68878612
may have accidentally done an oopsie on purpose and gave legal team docs intended to never leave legal team
to not-legal team to make a PR statement by not-legal team on eliras channel

>>68878333
>wasn't a big earner
she was the top EN talent and had deep ties to the EN community
the fact that blizzard/EA sponsorships followed her to dokibird and not staying with niji should be enough of a hint

DO YOUR PART! BUY WAR BONDS!

>>68878415
Its unfortunate for Niji that Selen lives, works, and would be represented in the Canadian court system, because that shit is definitely illegal and within her power to counter.

>>68879379
>Leaked legal documents just to make a PR Statement

>Hi, welcome to another episode of ColdFusion. Allegations of mismanagement and abuse is the story of a lot of vtuber corporations today, but the story of Nijisanji depicts a collapse of an entirely different magnitude. Currently, it's facing arguably the worst public relations crisis the industry has seen in its near decade long history. The termination of its English talent Selen Tatsuki has caused an avalanche of outrage towards the agency, leading to more than 150 thousand subscribers lost and cancellations of numerous streams and events. The stock price of the beleaguered agency's parent company AnyColor is in freefall. But it's not all about economic figures and data. It's a human tragedy with Selen almost having been driven to suicide. Litigation is currently on the table and Nijisanji has put out statements denouncing Selen, who has now returned to streaming as her original character Dokibird. It's a sad tale of frustration, a sense of betrayal and a pervasive exhaustion with an overwhelming amount of mismanagement within Nijisanji's ranks. Longtime fans have resorted to boycotting the company and starting campaigns for talents to graduate, not to punish them, but to rescue them from this increasingly dire ongoing situation. Meanwhile, they have also alleged that Nijisanji's founder, Riku Tazumi, of spending millions of dollars lavishly on yachts while distributing as little as 3% of the company's profits to its livers. What makes this so shocking is that if you go back just a few years, you could not predict just how deep this crisis would reach. Back then, Nijisanji was doing much better than their main rival Hololive, boasting the largest subscriber counts and revenue in the vtubing world. But just a few years later, it was all decimated. So what triggered this rapid decline and what are the consequences echoing today - and more importantly, is there a light at the end of this very dark tunnel? Buckle up as we embark on a deep dive into the story of Nijisanji and its struggle for survival.

>>68874143
it's the first thing you learn in japanese business school

>>68870461
go be the worst type of brown person somewhere else

>>68878948
You have
Elira who have a rrat that she run a clinque in NijiEN, with this now it confirmed
Vox Akuma who some how the safest of the three except for a crazy fanbase that one time niji write something like le retard de vox akuma
And IKE fucking Neverland who just recently Allegedly accursed for being a sexpest who try to get sexual favor from girls who want to be in Nijisanji en.

It can be worse if they change vox into luca though.

Parrot you fucking goblin (I say this in a nice way) I know you're here bitch. PUT ME IN THE VIDEO.

> BE Niji salaryman responsible for content approval
> Receive new approval request
> "Oh fuck not this bitch again"
> Gotta review it fast before she starts throwing ankther tantrum
> Music sounds ok
> See cameo of graduated member
> "Oh man... That like 5 different forms that I got to fill"
> Rush to the printer
> Tanaka is using it again to print the base Ball fantasy league reports.
> "Fuck off Tanaka this is urgent" kick him to the side
> Will deal with HR later
> Rush back to my cubicle and fill the forma by hand.
> Fax them to the stamping departments for aproval
> Run to the stamping departmant, get the documents, scan them and mail them to EN manager.
> Call EN manager to tell him its done.
> "Hey its Koyzumi I just sent you th-"
> "You were to late."
> "No.. Masaka..!"
> "She just attempted sudoku"
And this is the story of how I caused the collapse of Niji.

>>68866595
Absolutely. NijiEN is fucking finished. One of the worst things an entertainment business can do for themselves is to shatter their public image. The image of EN has been absolutely destroyed across the anglosphere, which is like 99% of all EN viewers. So, yes it's actually over this time and we will see Hololive absolutely sweep the remaining EN market in the months to come.

>>68878333
I miss Gibara
that money loving gacha addict screaming woman
hope she's doing fine

>>68880030
>And IKE fucking Neverland
That was Aster, unless there was another leak that I'm unaware of.
I really don't want to live by this drama, I'm doing my best to avoid the shit.

>>68880167
She fine, she collab with Chinami and said they met each other in prison

>>68880295
It the reddit post.
The op said it Ike before delete the post

>>68866595
yeah. when the selen thing was going down i didnt bother unsubbing but now i actually had to do it if theyre all going to be used as a corporate mouthpiece eventually
just absolute baboonery

>>68880631
I need to see that. I actually like Ike.

>>68865839
>Oopsie Doopsie.

>>68871957
>or some form of it
APPI. It didn't use to cover medical information, but that got added in a revision a few years back after a bunch of huge data breaches leaked a lot of sensitive information. Business owners are required to have the consent of the person whose information they're trying to access grant access to said information but Japanese facilities are not immune to conveniently ignoring legal updates. See, for example: the scandal right at the end of last year where a group home that housed disabled people telling residents that they had to be sterilized in order to receive services, which would be in line with the "Eugenic Protection Law", which mandated doctors to non-consesually sterilize disable people or people with a history of hereditary diseases. The Eugenic Protection Law has been off the books for almost 20 goddamn years.

So really, who fuckin knows if they're operating in line with the law. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>68879592
LEMAO

>>68868880
she didnt took well that they leaked documents supposed to be private and she can lawyer them now, holy bootlicker man they dont even know what is happening either

>>68878421
This is what the situations reminding me of

>>68881582
Even the jap know

>>68878421
>>68882312

>>68879725
(you)

>https://imgur.com/a/GzUQV6s

>>68882538 (Me)
Meant to reply to >>68881140, about Ike's sexpest rrat

>>68880060
You forgot about the
>Wait 37 hours
Part

>>68879592
based

>>68882538
>https://imgur.com/a/GzUQV6s
BOOOMMMMMM!!! another nuke has dropped

>>68880295
Have you heard that Luca let a hag run his accounts and make his merch for 2 years? And he cheated in Minecraft.

>>68882538
ruh roh

>>68871183
how DARE you give your lawyers the proper information they request!! thats the same thing as breaking NDA and sharing legal documents you aren't supposed to let others see with your co-workers!!!

>>68882538
>metoo: vtuber edition
Awaiting proof, if it's really deleted then I guess there's none.

>>68871183
The only think leaking here is your brain and the cum off your mouth after sucking off a nigger company

>>68870416
>if a hysterical woman who has proved herself as irrational is in the right as she claims
Why even make that assumption, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. You should assume she's in the wrong but try to protect her anyway by getting her to avoid escalatation and milking this too much (assuming you're a fan).

>>68883383
Technically there a statement for a similar case by his girlfriend before before ike become ike.
But from the original post she did said some other will also make post later with receipt. (Still waiting for that)

>>68865839
I hope they bring each other down. Dokibird is a shameless opportunist shill and probably a little insane and NijiEN is an incompetent organization that can't tell their assholes from their elbows. Just like with the Super Bowl this year I'm asking myself "can they both lose?".

>>68883383
There's none. It's the weakest 'leak' of the lot. Oddly bizarre in the lack of information it provides.

>>68870416
Selen is known to be crazy and I wouldn't put it past her to have made half the stuff she mentioned up. I don't buy the whole situation with the song and her suicide attempt was probably faked as well.

>>68883309
>LAWYERS ARE ALWAYS GOOD PEOPLE! I WISH ENEMIES IN MY LIFE SHARED EVERYTHING UNTOWARD ABOUT ME WITH LAWYERS!
Kill yourself.

>>68881582
kek post a link, I need to know if this is real.

>>68866595
It's a chain reaction that will sink Anycolor completely, even the JP side.

I want to know the thought process behind the person who thought it was a good idea to publicly admit in the termination notice that company livers were knowingly bullying another talent and did absolutely nothing to stop it.

>>68884026
based retard
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY CAN GET MY INFORMATION ON THIS LEGAL DOCUMENT NOT SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC?

>>68866595
for nijitrooni? yeah

>>68874747
I don't think it's the talents. They sounded pretty scripted.
Honestly, they might be trying to use this as an excuse to cut the entire EN branch.

>>68882538
gayest faggot raping woman? lol lmao

>>68884127
The only explanation is that they are still trying to bully her into suicide. They are evil.

>>68868880
Millie why do you still shitpost here daily lmfao. It's so fucking obvious too. You're such a bitch for it but it's honestly admirable in a schizo kind of way knowing you're in the fucking swamp with the rest of us just like another normal ass shitposter. What's not cute though is how much of a bitch you are for being part of bullysanji culture. You could change it, but a ride on the yacht is too good to pass up I guess.

Holy shit, I chose a horrible day to finally join 4chan's VT board. Anyone wanna give me a rundown of the Elira video? All the info I've seen on Twitter has left me confused.

Also, I've heard the term "rrat" thrown around and wanna know what exactly that means

>>68884311
Where does this myth that legal documents are not shown to the public come from? Given this whole drama is over individuals infamous for leaking shit, why would you pretend to be good faith while saying things that weren't necessary? What could even be the motivation outside of hoping it gets leaked?

>>68884657
it means LURK MORE

>>68865839
Bro, so they straight up cannot see her happy or successful so they pull this shit?
And to top it off they force their biggest livers to do the character assassination?
Bro im so burned out on this drama, I just want to enjoy my Selen.

>>68884657
whoa whoa whoa buddy
you're posting way too soon
do your reps first

>>68884610
Nobody's stupid enough to believe she'd commit suicide, she already got the attention she was looking for.

There's no reason for Elira, vox and ike to release the management approved statement at all... AT ALL
SO WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? ARE THE YAKUZA IN CHARGE OF NIJISANJI EN? WHY DOESN'T MANAGEMENT SHOW THEMSELVES?

>>68884657
All hearsay at this point. Unless this goes to court don't expect to get the whole story.

>>68884729
valid

>>68884833
how many of what

>>68866595
THE APOCALPSE IS CONFIRMED
IT'S FUCKING GO TIME
SOLDIERS OF THE END, REPORT IN

>>68885014
Do about 3 sets of 10 pushups and 30 minutes of lurkmore per day!

>>68884657
you need to wait another few months minimum before posting, i'll spoonfeed you how to get started though. find /vt/ archives, search the things you're looking for there, use context clues to learn. may you come back a more schizo man than you were before.

>>68884657
rrat = na-rrat-ive
crazy shit people make up, except now the shit people are making up pales in comparison to the actual truth.

>>68884950
It means they know they're gunna win. Selen is fucked

>>68884657
they accidentally on purpose did a big fucking oopsie and handed legal team documents to not-legal team and then forced not legal team to make a PR statement on behalf of the company

when is ricky zoomy releasing his statement? it's supposed to be later today?

>>68874618
How to spot a Nijinigger.

God, I do feel bad for those in Niji who were kind of minding their own business for the most part. Glad Pomu left right before all this, best decision of her life probably.

>>68868131
The court of public opinion trumps anything the lawyers decide. Let's suppose Niji lawyers win and make her pay up. She'll make that money back in a month. Like, Niji's side at this point would need to provide IRREFUTABLE evidence that she herself was a bully, or that she lied about the attempt, or that she called someone a nigger or something. And even then, they should've fucking waited AT LEAST 3 weeks before even pulling this PR disaster.

>>68885124
I've been lurking since the Selen termination on a Twitter profile that shares screenshots from here. Does that count?

>>68885024
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDJRljKujjU&si=KCnJrAf0dfREHtC9

It's the NijiEND.

>>68884730
>Where does this myth that legal documents are not shown to the public come from?
from the fact that it hasn't leaked at all? actually the first time people learned about this document was today, during the 15 minute corporate mandated video. also if you're mentioned in a legal document your information has to be displayed. had elira or any other vtuber lied about their info they'd be breaking the law

>>68884657
so it all started when Harambe got shot...

>>68872094
Any company operating within a country is subject to it's laws. Kurosanji could be based on Mars and so long as they're hiring talent in Canada, they have to follow Canadian laws. The alternative is that they won't be able to do business there, which would be pretty fuckin bad for a company with so many Canadians employed.

What is the Riku stream going to be about?

>>68885485
also when?

>>68872977
>>68874261
It's actually even worse
During the stream she tried to go back and play but she was so distressed she basically kept repeating herself for 20 minutes while staring at the Neopets login page

>>68884657
Welcome to 4chan, Riku.

>>68885207
thank you for the information anon, you have my gratitude

>>68885306
Not really no. Also here’s another free tip, “Homos” and “Homobeggars” do not actually imply anyone involved is gay, and the insult actually hinges entirely on that not being the case

>This all could have been prevented and passed on if Nijisanji just took Selen's deal of letting her go peacefully but instead they "Nah I'd win" themselves into getting cleaved not once but TWICE by their own volition

>>68865839
THE MOST JUICIEST INFORMATION WILL DROP SOON! AND NIJISANJI WILL BE FUCKED FOR GOOD! FUCK YOU ENNA!!!!!

>>68885652
i heard her say the same exact sentence twice in a row..

>>68884657
Hahahaha /vt/ as your first board holy shit

>>68866595
This does feel like it doesn't it? Niji has been fucking up for a long time now but this feels different. I keep expecting it to die down but it just flares up. There has to be an end, and it feels like this end might be nuclear.

>>68866595
The Final Yab is coming. Repent sinners.

>>68885706
no clue who Riku is, but I'm just a bystander here legit

would it be wise to actually put a name instead of people thinking I'm someone I'm not?

So how long do you think it'll be until the first liver resigns and which one do you think will leave first?

>>68874143
Let's just say if that happens it will result in an eye for an eye

I just was sleeping(bad work day)
thinking that nijisanji will just ignore everything and the drama just end in some way.

And than this shit video came out.
What the Fuck can I say to this.

I think found nijisanji bullies

>>68884657
one other thing newfags dont seem to understand is the meaning of "2view", "3view" etc. it's in reference to the digits in the number of people watching. Not literally 2 or 3 viewers.

>>68885730
>but instead they "Nah I'd win" themselves
somepne please edit this

>>68866595
GIVE ME BACK MY BABY

>>68876789
All they did was confirm the bullies with this stunt.

what im baffled by is why are the Nijisisters insisting that stream was scripted? its 100% their real thoughts and they wanted to throw Selen under the bus. It has already been revealed by Sayu that the NijiEN organs are filthy backstabbers

>>68885306
at best they only spoonfeed you a part of the picture, differentiating between the schizos, bait threads, and actual decent rrats takes more work

kek

>Finana unfollowed her oshi
THIS COULD BE IT!!!

>>68886056
kinda had a feeling that was the case, I just figured it meant low viewership in general

>>68885918
Riku Tazumi is the mid-20's billionaire CEO of nijisanji's parent company AnyColour, he's a scumbag who has been hiring managers who treat talent like shit and give them barely any % of shit like merch sales for years. The running joke is that he uses all the money to buy yachts, hence the memes about sinking yachts you might've seen on twitter

>>68880060
Anime adaption, now.

>>68885918
>no clue who Riku is, but I'm just a bystander here legit
this guy

over/under on tazumi's statement completely reversing twitter/public opinion on this entire situation?

>>68880038
Kill yourself and get the fuck off my board

>>68882742
Management is retarded and slow. She KNOWS management is retarded and slow. Giving the video for review with a 48 hour deadline until she posts it is also retarded, no matter how incompetent management is.

>>68873221
>take lawful termination to court
There's no defamation case on either side (in the US at least), Niji is right about the video privating situation, Selen's termination* was lawful, your employee being a menhera is not illegal and your employer being a slimy black company is not illegal.
There MAY be a case against Niji if they leaked confidential documents to Elira and Vox, and even then it's barely a case if they're not retarded about it.

* Assumed she had an actual contract and not some basically-at-will indentured slavery noncontract (very common in japan, norm for idol companies especially vtubing).
* Assumed she was actually fired (contract terminated) instead of her Niji expediting her graduation. If she voluntarily resigned then there's extra no case.

>>68866595
Yes, the fire rises!

How are you retards actually arguing that it was illegal for Niji to show the documents to the livers?
Those fuckers were namedropped, had their addresses posted and Vox even got fucking wiretapped by Fedlen the glowie. How the fuck are they outside parties if they're directly involved?

>>68885918
The guy from Kingdom Hearts.

>>68886280
that makes hella more sense than I thought it did

>>68884657
Good God, now is not a good time here either!

>>68882464
NOW LEARN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MESS WITH THE MOST POWERFUL CORPO IN THE INDUSTRY

>>68886492
The issue is showing medical documents to other employees of another employee, fired or not.
I can't go in tomorrow and tell one of my employees about another one of my employee's medial history. I would be fired the second anyone found out. That's what this is about.

>>68885918
it's jork

mother of fuck, they really started the "throw selen under the bus" stream the EXACT MOMENT she started her own stream. you cannot make this shit up.

>>68886666
nice quad anon

>>68886175
It's retarded zoommers that haven't watched announcements before. No shit it's scripted, you don't wing it into a legal announcement. It should be scripted regardless of whose thoughts they are.

>>68886492
this is probably on balance the stupidest post I've ever read on this board

>>68886642
>>68884657

probably a decent amount of tourists and people who are more forgiving since the final yab is here though on the brightside

>>68878421
>how could you possibly think this insane bitch is telling the truth, she literally tried to khs
this defense works in japan btw

>>68884657
SHUT THE FUCK UP GLOWIE!!!!

>>68875529
>Source: my ass

>>68866595
TOTAL NIJI DEATH FINALLY

>>68886765
Except they were never shown any medical records nor would they have any reason to be shown any medical records

>>68886820
It's so blatant. Do they think people won't notice?

>>68884657
be thankful newfag, for today you happened to encounter me, the kind of faggy anon who will actually happily take pity upon a newfag and spoonfeed them

the term 'rrat' is an abbreviation of 'narrative' usually referring to hypotheses and wild speculation/delusions that have no clear evidence to support them. The term comes from a moment during a Pekora (the famous rabbit of Hololive) Metal Gear Solid stream wherein she encountered a rat labelled 'R. Rat' and she says 'ogey... rrat' in an amusing way (ok rat but rolling her r's to mimic the way its named)
As for how this became connected to 'narratives' I am honestly not sure but what I can say is that most rrats are never confirmed and are merely the ravings of madmen. But every once in a while, once in a blue moon, a rrat is confirmed, and all hell takes the world. This, dear newfag, is one of those times.

Now, as for the Elira video. Here is the rundown:
>Elira, Vox and Ike are featured
>they state that Selen is a liar and has falsified everything - they claim there was no bullying and that she was totally in the wrong for ignoring management about not uploading the MV before all approvals were given
>said approvals regard the fact that there were ex-Livers shown in the video
>they confirm the suicide attempt
>they state that they were shown legal documents given to Anycolor lawyers by Selen's lawyer (which they were legally not supposed to be shown but seem to be unaware of this)
>they state that there is information in the video stating things like where Elira and Millie live and they were scared this would somehow be made public (it probably wouldn't)
>they say that the document also states that Selen privately recorded an instance over voicecall proving that Vox recieves favortism over other livers - Vox denies there is favortism but doesn't explain what the incident was
>they insist on how heartbroken they are that Selen has betrayed them and that she is completely in the wrong

in essence, the rrats that Elira was head of a clique in NijiEN and that Luxiem were shown favortism were basically confirmed by this video. And also Nijisanji has literally broken the law by showing the legal documents to these livers.
Doki released a statement afterwards confirming they were never meant to see the documents and further statements and evidence is coming.

Enjoy the flames, newfag

>>68885918
Nah no one uses names like ever, most of this site’s culture is based around either falseflagging as someone else to rile people up, or calling out obvious falseflaggers

>>68884657
When people sat lurk more it means you're supposed to understand basic stuff, the way to understand them is from context
I will spoonfeed you one thing though: https://www.4chan-x.net/

>>68866595
The end of niggersanji

>>68886492
You can't be mentioned by name in legal documents without your real address, identity, and contact info, dummy. And Canada is one-party consent so that's not "wiretapping".

>>68886492
I hope this is merely pretending.

>>68886765
Is there even any proof that Niji leaked medical documents? Because anyone with a brain could assume that Selen was in the hospital after trying to kill herself

>>68886197
I think I'm having a stroke

>>68884109
Finally

>>68866595
NijiEN? Yes, they are most likely ditching the branch since this a point-of-no-return scenario on the west. We are also probably getting batch graduations like ID around last quarter of 2024 and the start of 2025
Niji as a whole? Nah, but they'll fuck off back to JP and never get out again.

>>68876642
Strictness only applies to the employees on the bottom. Japanese businesses have been responsible for many of the worst corporate scandals in history.

>>68886197
THAT LITTLE TALKING FACE AT THE BOTTOM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>68866595
In NijiEN's case, definitely. 60% chance the branch dies by the end of the year. And if it survives, even years later we'll all point to February 5, 2024 as the turning point where NijiEN went from competing with Vshojo as the #2 EN corp to a joke.

>>68869231
based

>>68887309
at this stage its only implied, there is no actual proof

>>68886433
This.
I dont know what kind of deal she was talking about between lawyers but i bet everythin they showed is 100% legal.
She suing is a lost case because it is a shitty place to work but it aint a hostile wotk enviroment. A judge would only care about later.
Nothing will scalate yo court, bith niji and selen are gonna do jabs at each other on twitter because is their image is the only thing they care about.
That is drama, that is bpd, that is incompetence. Just a shitshow for us to watch and enjoy

>>68887105
>As for how this became connected to 'narratives' I am honestly not sure but what I can say is that most rrats are never confirmed and are merely the ravings of madmen. But every once in a while, once in a blue moon, a rrat is confirmed, and all hell takes the world. This, dear newfag, is one of those times.
I was in /hlgg/ when this was born. Some anon said "Can't write narrative without rrat" "ogey"

>>68885024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk85NdyvUM4
I SAW THEM DIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
O, EMPTY ARE THEIR LIES

>>68887105
based loremaster

>>68887309
I would imagine the “tried to kill herself” part wouldn’t be public information

>>68887105
They also confirmed the liver harassment. "We were concerned that her tweet made us look bad, so dozens of us messaged her very politely to tell her to go fuck herself and stop it very politely"

>>68886433
Hostile work environment will throw a wrench in your deduction there. I got to see one happen (In the US) and the bar is low.

If the suicide attempt was prior to her firing they are 100% fucked, she'll say she was fired in retaliation for a health issue. If she can show she was making decisions under duress from the hostile work environment, Niji is fucked. They'd have to disprove any hostile work environment proof she has or show they were never made aware of it by her, others, or that goes beyond what they should be doing as an employer.

Company policy will not trump law, illegal NDAs don't hold weight, etc. There's a lot we don't know but from someone looking at this in a lens of what I've seen personally happen Niji is fucking itself. They are approaching this as if it was happening in Japan in relation to one of their Japanese employees, that's NOT what they needed to do here.

>>68885652
>she was so distressed she basically kept repeating herself for 20 minutes while staring at the Neopets login page
Shit man...

>>68872686
I'm not even going to get mad at the FNAF reference, it's been a good decade since FNAF 1.

It all returns to nothing
It all comes tumbling down
Tumbling down, tumbling down
It all returns to nothing
I just keep letting me down
Letting me down, letting me down

>>68887309
The idea is that they said stuff in the announcement stream that indicates they've seen legal docs that are supposed to be confidential between the lawyers of both parties, and not shared with former co-workers/contractors. This leads doki to reasonably wonder "wtf, did they show EVERYTHING to the other livers, like my medical records?" because those were communicated, confidentially, in the same way between both parties' lawyers.

>>68887309
No. Is notselen proposing the idea they did

I call it

They will delete the Live stream Video
The Like to Dislike are 50/50 right now

>>68887309
It was presented with Selen's allegations document. So it's just assumed that since they're sharing legal documents that they might have shared medical documents that were part of the same batch.

If the medical docs were attached at the end of the pdf then I'd assume it too were I in her shoes.

At this point I'm not even surprised at how retarded Nijisanji legal is anymore, considering they routinely send NDAs to peeps with the wrong names listed

This all just makes it even more funny to me the farce that is "doxxing" in the vtuber community.

>>68887739
Hang on, another anon here, let me chime in.
Even IF Kurosanji manages to slink by all this legal trouble like a worm, they STILL SUICIDED IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
They straight up FUCKED themselves.

>>68887105
Holy fuck it's seiyuu shield again, I'm getting PTSD from this bullshit.

>>68872977
Kek this certainly smacks of Nijisanji being literal toddler tier in it's reasoning and decision making. It HAS to have the last word, no matter how retarded or self sabotaging that word is. They simply can't fucking stand Doki ending the topic on her own terms

>>68887105
thank you loremaster anon

>>68887163
fuck it I feel like being different, so I'm gonna give myself a non-anon name
i am now "Calypso"

>>68887969
It's way past 50/50 now, and it's still dropping. Return youtube dislike needs time to aggregate dislikes from extension users.

>>68887969
They'll definitely delete it to try to cover their asses once someone rubs two braincells together and realizes this was a fucking terrible idea. Half the internet probably has it archived by now though.

>>68887739
>They'd have to disprove any hostile work environment
And Vox just confirmed that livers mass DMed her at management's request because she posted a potentially harmful tweet.

What if both side are equally awful, kurosanji is a black company all out to get Selen, while Selen in her bit to fight back like the menhera she is threw everyone else under the bus.

>>68888176
You have made a grave error, newfag-kun

>>68874107
>Roku
>Smart
Everything he has achieved has been through sheer dumb luck up until this point. The guy is a massive retard who's currently in the process of being exposed

>>68887969
Nahhhh, I'm betting Riku will double down and call Selen a whore in his response vid.

>>68886197
>Scapegoating is the practice of making unpleasant accusations followed by negative treatment of a person or group.

>Anyway, it's all because of her, because she's the one who made the company's finances deteriorate. therefore, we will corner her by making clarifications that will be done by our "employees".

>We don't care about being called a dark company by the public, as long as she is depressed and tormented for the rest of her life, we are satisfied!

Based WikiID

>>68887739
>They'd have to disprove any hostile work environment proof she has
And here's where they get fucked, Vox knows damn well why he put on that act of being so "betrayed" by her recording him. Whatever fuckery Doki was going through towards the end of her career, she started keeping tapes of it

>>68888281
Anon, niji has taken literally every opportunity to escalate instead of just letting everyone involved shut the fuck up and get on with their lives.

>>68885652
She sounded like she was on the verge of cracking, and I wouldn't blame her. In the post she made after the stream, she was so frazzled she could barely even write properly. I thought I was having a heart attack for a couple minutes there. I know everyone's having fun, but I fucking hate this. Why did they have to keep digging? Even though she's obviously going to win if they take it to court, this is torture.

>>68887739
My man hostile work enviroment is mostly for harrasment stuff. And the really bad kind. Being a shitty workplace is not enough to fit that criteria. For retalation law she will have to have accused management of being an actual hostile work enviroment and proof of discrimantion or she filling a security complain or something.
The most selen would get is the judge to tell her to compromise. She has no case about that.

ITS FUCKING STARTING

>>68888453
If he called her a dumb broad that needs to learn her place I'd switch sides in an instant.

>>68888281
Both sides are obviously retaded, but you expect an international corpo to handle this with care instead of letting it explode for free drama that actually won't get them revenue.
This isn't some small timers like WACTOR or OWOZU just scamming a few spics, this is one of the big corpos.

https://twitter.com/s_h_uuko/status/1757224053973135691
https://twitter.com/s_h_uuko/status/1757238130997150170
fucking kek

>>68888405
I come up with bad ideas on the daily

>>68872686
But what about the Summer of '92?

What trump card do you think Doki is holding and will it be enough to destroy Niji?

>>68888249
No. If they were smart, they'd chew out the moron and LEAVE IT UP. Taking it down now would just compound the damage.

is niji run by literal retards? what kind of moron takes any sort of even remotely privileged legal document and just passes it around for their random fucking employees to read over?

>>68872977
>lying whore paints you as the villain in the court of public opinion leading to massive stock falls
>realizes she might have gone too far and decided to back off
The correct move is to set the record straight

>>68888606
>nijisanji blacked
KEK

>>68888628
Themselves, just look what they keep doing.

>>68888628
Watame's DMs

>>68887105
I think the most telling thing about this was
>We were so close to Selen!
>I was going to graduate with her!
>But actually shes just a lying whore!!!
>We are the victims! Stop spreading hate!
This is narcissism/bullying 101 shit.

>>68887249
How are they outside parties if they directly being named in the document and there's a recording of a conversation had in private in said document? What retard argues that they're not involved?

>>68886972
Does it still work after your company publicly admits to breaking signed contracts of confidentiality, and broadcasts it to the world?
Now we just need to see what receipts Doki is coming forward with. It's going to be interesting.

>>68888281
This is the real deal.
She took the chance since niji fucked up the pr statement and sent the dogs free.

>>68888281
I'm basically ready at any time to acknowledge Doki overstepped some boundaries, likely due to frustration from prior clashes with management
This has grown so far past that, thoughbeit

>>68888628
All the statements that the bullying livers messaged her over the last year.

It's not even a war.
Selen might have attempted suicide.
But Kurosanji said, "STEP ASIDE BITCH, I CAN KILL MY ENTIRE COMPANY!"

Like, if they just left her alone for a minimum of a week and a maximum of two months, NO ONE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT OR EVEN REMEMBER THIS HAPPENED.
Fucking MORONS.

I genuinely think NijiEN is going to get shuttered from this drama

>>68888628
if she was in fact bullied and recorded evidence of it she can simply release said evidence and permanently ruin them.

>>68888669
Did they wave the docs with their legal names on them in front of the other livers to scare them?
>Ooh look your embittered coworker is gonna dox all of you! Only we can keep you safe!

>>68866595
Just wait until Selen reveals that Vox was her abusive boyfriend.

>>68865839
7th Horn has sounded

>>68889105
And yet she hasn't

>>68888984
Holy hell, I hope she pulls out previous restraining orders or some shit.

>>68889105
You have to be careful about this and go through a lawyer. If you're reckless, they can counter attack with libel or some shit. Just have a lawyer release it, like Doli is doing.

>>68888754
>The correct move is to set the record straight
Next statement for sure!
They're just sitting on a smoking gun, they just didn't want to release it today for... uhh..... reasons!

>>68889122
by eliras own admission, yes

>>68888897
If they aren't being sued, they aren't parties that have a right to the information. They weren't, at the time, being sued, as far as we know.

>>68889122
No, dipshit, the company was threatening their current talents. ("We have your personal information and will share it.")

>>68888981
Even in the alternate universe square earth bizarro-/vt/ in which Selen is an actual Rushia-tier lunatic, Nijisanji would still be 100% in the wrong.

>>68888754
They're doing an excellent job at that, aren't they?

Why would I trust what Nijisanji has to say this time, making your livers read it won't trick people intro trusting you.
If I saw anything with that much cropping I'd suspect them to be full of shit anyway.

>>68887739
Suicide attempt was prior to her being fired or quitting (doesn't matter + trivial to argue she quit because of harassment).
It's only illegal if you fired her *because* she tried to off herself, and from Niji's side it's easy to argue they would've fired her in December when she was hospiralized instead of in late January, if that was the case.
Also you can be fired because you tried to kill yourself. This wouldn't be unlawful termination. Selen's side argument would be that she was fired BECAUSE of her BPD, which would be illegal under ADA. Again very easy to argue that this was not the case.
>" If she can show she was making decisions under duress from the hostile work environment"
Realistically speaking you'd need to have a legitimately hostile work evironment fro this to work and the DMs we've seen so far, from this instance and all other niji leaks, are extremely tame. "all out war" and clique-related ones are nothing than the usual Slack garbage I have to read in similar cases that were ruled in favor of the company.
>hey'd have to disprove any hostile work environment proof
Not really. That's on Doki to prove.

I have a feeling that selen's original contract probably would have specified that all legal disagreements would fall under Japanese jurisdiction/law. In that kind of situation, she can't use Canadian law in her defense if it's outside of jurisdiction (e.g. you can't cite Canadian law for an issue that occurred while traveling in Japan). Remote work is usually quite clear which jurisdiction things fall under.

Most likely the biggest challenge would be Japan's anti-defamation law, which is notoriously nasty.

>>68888547
Again we're going off zero info, but pretending Niji is doing themselves a favor by continuing to harass her publicly doesn't bode well for what happened behind closed doors.

Bullying is harassment. A shitty work environment can end up being harassment. If there is any substance behind any bullying claim they're fucked. They put themselves in a no win. Their risk vs reward here is fucking crazy...

>>68889105
IT DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT
you mofos need to understan for bullying to be ilegal it falls under a harsh discriminatiom category. Which unless everyone was calling her fat it doesnt apply here.
It might not be what you want to hear but being a bully isnt llegal.

>>68888754
They painted themselves as the villian with their document release, anon. Setting the record straight would make sense if she had said ANYTHING in that termination document publicly first, in which she did not. They shot themselves, for whatever fucking reason.

>>68888606
>black companies only
god damn, mein fucking sides

>>68888754
All she has said is "managment took my video down" and "I was bullied" they only deny the later statement. This stream only confirmed her first statement

>>68865839
>war
This isn't war anon. It's going to be a slaughter.

>>68889430
I think the point is the termination was justified.
But niji statement was 100% wrong and selen worked that on her favor. Cant blame her.

At this rate I'm expecting Nijisanji to intentionally dox their talents trying to go after Selen.

>>68889528
Bruh, this is the adult world. There are repercussions for not being a decent human being.

>>68889500
Her contract was terminated, and now the company itself has broken NDA.

>>68889638
>All she has said is "managment took my video down" and "I was bullied" they only deny the later statement.
while also stating that the former, despite true, isn't true

>>68889430
Exactly, even the most (reasonable) skeptical reading of doki's side only suggests that she unwisely popped off after months of getting jerked around and fucked over.

>>68889725
There's little doubt in my mind some of them saw the public's reaction and said, "I do NOT want to be a part of this," and Kurosanji twisted some arms.

>>68886197
Man, the ID Wikipedia shit posting about this might be THE funniest part of this whole clown show

I would like to say that what I'm gathering from this thread is that Niji is a blacker company than Wactor

Would I be correct in assuming this

>>68889953
Seems that way namfag.
>CAPTCHA: GR4YA

>>68889723
>I think the point is the termination was justified
Yeah but the process of performing it wasn't. You need to give 30 days notice and cannot deliver that notice to someone in hospital. Termination occurred less than 30 days after she left hospital, ergo termination was illegal.
And this is according to Japanese law, not even Canadian.

>>68884657
You should lurk for at least 6 months before you even consider posting

>>68889530
This isnt harras no matter how you paint it. Bullying is not harrasunder the law unless a specific criteria of why and how she was harrased is met .
If this was japan maybe but under canadia or american law being a shitty coworker is not ilegal until she proves she was discrimimated for her specific conditions.

>>68889530
The bullying turned out to be other chuubas messaging her about the lilypichu song.
Even if it was actual textual insults if wouldn't be considered harassment unironically. "Hard office banter" is usually considered just dudes being dudes. People getting their workspot moved around the campus plan on a daily basis to fuck with them is just "bad management".
Hostile work environment needs to be actually hostile, as in dangerous or discriminatory. Not the case here.

>>68888618
>https://twitter.com/s_h_uuko/status/1757224053973135691


Careful, if they assign a face to your name, they'll fuck it

Riku's video had better have some good shit else they're going to get crucified.

>>68889953
All Youtube MCNs are. Especially ones rooted in Japanese values.

>>68890218
>Bullying is not harrasunder (sic) the law
Yes it is.

>>68889731
My man the real world doesnt care if you dont have friends on your job.dont be delutional.

>>68889723
>>68890114
The act of termination itself was justified, everything surrounding it appears to be really fucked, and it gets more fucked the more they talk about it. Fucking Vox confirmed that a bunch of talent were badgering Selen about an issue management should have been handling.

>>68890416
Guess we'll find out, won't we, bootlicker?

>>68890281
he's going to dox doki, including real-time gps tracking of her phone, half a dozen airtags slipped into her belongings, and a photo of her family

>>68890114
The 30 days notice is different than the 'selen tatsuki is no longer a nijisanji vtuber' thing. You can still 'employ' Genericname Realperson for the remaining 30 days by giving her a paycheck in return for not breaking anything, while closing the Selen Tatsuki accounts effective immediately.

>>68887105
based loremaster

>>68890238
if you feel like putting a face to the name just put a picture of hanekawa tsubasa from monogatari here

>>68890540
But they DIDN'T.

>>68890416
Nijinigger EN talent will be forced to actually sudoku or fuck off elsewhere, that will be unavoidable with the amount of shit headed their way at this point.

>>68890514
He's going to stand up, cough gently into his hand, and then slowly read out her exact coordinates before ending the video.

>>68890540
Yeah, but they didn't.

>>68890366
It is not unless it base om spe ific qualities of the individual. Most of the time being descrimination

>>68870397
>Elira is in Japan rn

My bet is Riku had her kidnapped and literally forced at gunpoint to make that statement.
>You dumbu gaijin whore, read the script or you go sairing on my yacht... in pieces!

>>68886416
The guy is already reviled so extremely unlikely. In his head though he thinks he has Yagoo levels of good will and support. His lack of self awareness is hilarious. See those creepy "dolls" of himself that he sends to his talents. He thinks they love him and they are all extremely weirded out by it

>>68888553
Not a single soul in that company is unstained.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Wh66FXZJQ

>>68890652
I mean go ahead. Harras the talent in name of selen. I dont care.
Im just telling it how it is. Nothing ilegal under the law has been shown. Niji is just a shitty work place

then its revealed this was all a big PR stunt to announce a new nijisanji fighting game

>>68890687
It is, generally speaking, illegal to fuck with someone until they're so miserable they quit. Constructive dismissal doesn't require harassment based on protected classes.

Rrat here, Buddy has contacts in the criminal side of the world, contacts have been saying niji's been trying to do business with them, won't say for what.

This is what I know, do what you will.

being Calypso was indeed a bad idea
back to being anon

>>68890114
> You need to give 30 days notice
No you don't you can terminate someone on the spot. You can also quit on the spot.
>cannot deliver that notice to someone in hospital
Unless they're in a coma, yes you can.

>>68890218
>>68890232
I can create a hostile work environment in one fucking message, if the company is made aware and doesn't address it properly there'd be a case. If anyone feeds on that message (easy to do in a chat) that's it.

Like sexual harassment, literally one comment is enough for a case, if the company doesn't distance themselves from it they are now a part of it.

Again we don't have the specifics, literally a single interaction could be enough for a case.

> "Selen you fat bitch, put down the doughnut and take down that video!"
> "lol"
> "haha"

>>68890687
>Offensive conduct may include, but is not limited to, offensive jokes, slurs, epithets or name calling, physical assaults or threats, intimidation, ridicule or mockery, insults or put-downs, offensive objects or pictures, and interference with work performance. >Harassment can occur in a variety of circumstances, including, but not limited to, the following:
>The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, an agent of the employer, a co-worker, or a non-employee.
>The victim does not have to be the person harassed, but can be anyone affected by the offensive conduct.
>Unlawful harassment may occur without economic injury to, or discharge of, the victim.

>The employer is automatically liable for harassment by a supervisor that results in a negative employment action such as termination, failure to promote or hire, and loss of wages.

Now, this is JUST US law. Notice no mention of "discrimination under specific conditions."
Source: EEOC

tl;dr Kurosanji is fucked.

>>68891118
Why are you pretending to be me