/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68839684
>for whatever reason
You say that if there aren't plenty of reasons to dislike idol culture.
It's deeply mysoginistic
It's anti freedom
It severely damages the girls psychologically and emotionally
It creates leads to literal murder
It promotes dangerous delusions and world views

>>68839813
But those are all good things.

>>68839684
Anon they don't watch to begin with, they're just seething that their dying organs will never get the same chances and opportunities

>>68839813
Doesnt Enna manage to accomplish most in that list despite the lack of idol culture though...?

>>68839813
>deeply mysoginistic
just like aster
>It's anti freedom
well Selen was free to get terminated and attempt suicide
>It severely damages the girls psychologically and emotionally
insert petra's mindbroken tweet
>It creates leads to literal murder
Not even a month ago one of the nijifags had to come out and calm his tard audience because they were sending death threats to a girl who made a silly tier list
>It promotes dangerous delusions and world views
Imagine thinking that a woman who want's to become the best version of herself and make her fans happy is a bad thing

>>68840573
>insert petra's mindbroken tweet
NTA but qrd?

>>68839813
Average twitter user

>>68840719
Petra's rm

>>68839813
But Enna behaves like this in real life regardless of the vtubing gig. She would be exactly the same kind of bitch?

>>68840793
thanks anon and thats idd grim

>>68839894
what

>>68839813
based, we need more idol culture.

>>68840793
I hope Elira hugs her or something. That's how I feel when I read that.

>>68839813
>its mysoginistic
women being cute does not equal hating women
>its anti freedom
freedom isnt good, i would censor the shit out of faggots, communists and capitalists. I dont want pedos selling heroine to my 4 year old daughter.
>it damages the girls
They are women, portraying them as girls is more degrading than anything 'we' have them do. Women with freedom are more likely to go down a harmful, degrading path. Simply looking at Twitch, Onlyfans or other pornsites will provide ample proof.
>it creates/leads to literal murder
Werent you the one who was just 3 lines ago pro-freedom?
>it promotes dangerous delusions and world views
like?

>>68839813
You just listed a bunch of reasons why idol culture is based af

>>68839684
no

>>68839684
Or, here me out, they keep that idol shit in Japan where it belongs.

>>68840793
Poor penguin

>>68849055
You are the equivalent of a mexican wallclimber in this scenario

>>68839684
ah yes because you need to be in a company to do that.

>>68839813
Idol culture is inherently right wing because it promotes purity, order, beauty and everything nice, correct

>>68839684
based

>>68845222
>>its mysoginistic
>women being cute does not equal hating women
Skimpy outfits, jiggling boobs, and coomerbait swimsuit concerts. The JP talents might tolerate the lewd side of Hololive but it's not a mystery why that was more controversial on the EN side. The blatant sexualization was pushed heavily on HoloEN and some of them clearly didn't expect that when they joined.

>>68839813
>muh freedom
Where has all that freedom led you nijicuck? With half of your corpo quiting or being terminated and the other half MIA?

>>68856010
They signed up for it and make a bunch of money for it, if anything it’s empowering for women

>>68856010
Of course it all comes down to some twitter zoomer womanchild complaining about men finding attractive women attractive and picking apart any reason to make it "problematic". It always does.

>>68858104
>attractive women
>ugly enough they need to puppet an anime girl skinsuit to get male attention

>>68839813
>IDOL CULTURE IS BAD!!!
>meanwhile at niji the anti thesis of idol culture: bullying, suicide attempts, sexual extortion, sexual harassment, fucking slavery, backstabbing, cuck fetish promotion, game cheating, scams, leeching
No matter how much ill you spew about idol culture, actions speak louder than just plain words.

People also need to respect the opinions of those who want to do it (idol stuff). Also, some people want accurate translations of Japanese manga, while others want translations that are in line with a particular religion.
The important thing is that you can choose it.

>>68856010
>Skimpy outfits, jiggling boobs, and coomerbait swimsuit concerts
that is always the main choice of any women, all of them are naturally prostitutes, thats why freedom is bad for them, there have already been enough examples of vtubers updating their models to more revealing ones causing a massive backlash and not giving a shit about it

>>68839813
i know this is bait but it's pretty funny that niji disavowed idol culture and aimed to do the exact opposite and look at the state of it today

>>68839684
>Stop trying to change the whole company to suit your retarded sensibilities
No can do Yagoo, western vtubing will be warped and altered to suit the tastes of the Mythic king.

>>68859518
In the case of Nijisanji, male talents are strong and there are many female fans.
There are many collaborations between men and women.
And the voices of female fans who are jealous of female talent are astounding.
Selen's necklace incident...

>>68839684
I feel like if people actually did Phase Connect would be a major player in the West. Instead, the retarded unichuds just can't help it with their Stockholm Syndrome.

>>68839813
All of those things sound incredibly based.
I don't care about idols because I hate Asians, but I deeply respect idol culture now.

>>68860908
YWNBW

>>68861033

>>68857293
>They signed up for it and make a bunch of money for it, if anything it’s empowering for women
Anon you should watch Paripi Koumei and there is a reason several Hololive talents like that anime. Them putting up with coomerbait doesn't mean they weren't miserable and some of the EN talents were thinking of graduation.