/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

they are graduating or terminating the whole branch

She is...
>Busy recording stuff, management told her to not use twitter or stream for a while
>Ghosting management, she realized she is working for a black company and wants to get out asap
>Making future plans, NijiEN is getting folded into the main branch and Elira doesn't know what to do

She realized her non jrpg streams are worthless and gave up

>>68846218
Finana stays. She's getting ready to shit on Selen.
Rosemi made a members post today.

>>68846153
I need to know her thought process when thinking Enna would be a good hire.

>>68846153
And nothing of value was lost

Life has never been so grim I’m fucking dying

>>68846153

Elira, Petra, and Rosemi all have been completely radio silent since the white paper dropped, with the sole exception of "Rosemi" announcing her "hiatus". No streams, no appearances in other livers' streams, no tweets, no liking or retweeting fanarts, NOTHING.
They're never gonna return to streaming as Niji vtubers. Their roommates might stream some day, but they won't. They're gonna be the next to get sacked, and there's no guarantee that management will wait until after Kyo's graduation to terminate or "graduate" the three of them.

And even if they're not leaving, Rosemi would need to get a new intro video made, one which does not feature Selen's likeness.

>>68846218
>they are graduating or terminating the whole branch
Yup. Doki aired Niji's laundry, because they rejected her offer of keeping it to herself in exchange for getting Yugo'd. The branch is floundering, and will sink before the end of the year.

>>68846153
Good.
I won't accept anything other than a total nijinigger wipe, hopefully if this one does an "attempt" she'll actually succeed rather than reincarnating as some "edgy" dogshit indie for annoying retards to latch onto.

>>68846218
>>68846887
I would bet on them just keeping things going and folding EN into the main branch after several more graduations/terminations. In the end it's just another foreign branch and they can't be bothered to treat it differently.

People joke about it, but I'm starting to seriously get worried that this might end with livers loosing their livelihood.

>>68846153
She's busy licking Riku butthole

>>68847138
based
holochads stay winning

Did they know the big defamation letter and termination was coming? I would find it pretty hard to stream if that happened to someone I worked with for years.

>>68847396
They don't tell basic shit to their EN branch. No way they tell them about this shit either. Anycolor just shits this out the door and expects everybody to deal with the mess.

>>68846887
Didn't Rosemi financially gut her previous corpo? What's preventing her from doing it to NijiEN?

>>68846887
Petra has been namedropped in Maria and Kyo's schedules for this week, they have a valorant collab this thursday. Then again, management waited until the very last possible moment to cancel the MK tournament that Elira and Petra were hosting...

>>68847396
From what doki has said it sounds like selen was in talks with management until the day they published the termination letter.

>>68847343
>I'm starting to seriously get worried that this might end with livers loosing their livelihood
You say that as if Hololive rejects losing their jobs isn't a good thing.

>>68847555
QRD?

>>68847582
>MK tournament
It took me several moments to realize you weren't talking about Mortal Kombat.

>>68847582
Those collabs were set up way in advance. Kyo's final gameshow had a few unnamed NijiENs drop out. Wouldn't shock me if those were any of Petra, Elira, or Rosemi.

>>68846153
Someone post THAT depressing Petra roommate tweet

>>68847685
>Wouldn't shock me if those were any of Petra, Elira, or Rosemi.
Yeah, Rosemi was supposed to appear in that Kyo stream, some sisters were coping until the last moment

>>68847396
Everyone except Vivi probably knew that Selen was toast the moment she made that tweet telling people to reupload it, they just didn't know everything that transpired behind the scenes and that, they just didn't know how poorly Niji was gonna handle it.

>>68847138
only good post in this thread
the vtuber community is finally healing

>>68847954
Doki said
>Everyone knew

>>68846368
>She is..
>...
Testifies to japanese police on an even bigger yab.

>>68846153
They are in Japan to testify against Selen and were told to stay off media to avoid being influenced or swayed by public opinion.

>>68847138
BASED

>>68846153
Anyone know what the NijiJP livers think of this?

>>68846887
They probably threatened to quit if Selen was fired and so are now looking at their options for graduation while management tries to bring them back into the fold.

>>68848410
>nijiniggers
>in it for anything other than a paycheck
you're writing fanfiction anon
if they were capable of actually gaving a shit about their coworkers they'd have gotten into hololive

Lazulight and Obsydia are probably very depressed about the direction NijiEN took
They had a nice thing going and then endless chuubas got shit out, internal drama happened with unprofessional retards and sex pests, management couldn't deal with then properly and it imploded
Riku ACCELERATED into a wall

>>68848545
Elira must be taking it pretty hard, with so many people essentially blaming her for all this with the whole clique rrat.

>>68848658
Only way Elira is getting it hard is by being the VIP on Riku's yacht.

>>68848529
Mom and archaeopteryx proved that there is more money to be had outside the 2% company. Niji cancelling the 3D concert also shows they have no future there as actual entertainers.

>>68848545
Losing both Pomu and Selen pretty much in the same month was a crushing blow, not to mention all the other damage their departure caused. I don't think it has to be necessarily the end for NijiEN yet but they're probably all looking at alternatives now.

>>68848658
Can you imagine getting a call from management, being dragged into a dark office with nothing but a single light and then the managers drop some screenshots of 4chan on the table and asking you to explain them.

>>68848529.
Elira and Rosemi would have been better picks than Sana

>>68848898
idk man she streamed for a few months and people STILL won't shut up about her, even being remembered when replaced directly by councilrys. She must've been special to leave that kind of impression.

>>68847555
No she just left. Did she screw them out of the cost of her model? Arguably yes (unless she had to pay it off as part of her contract termination) but other than that she didn't cost them anything else.

>>68848410
Pomu is the only one who would have actually threatened them with quitting for what they did to Selen. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't take the offer of staying a few days more because she didn't want to keep giving them any more money.

>>68848981
She wasn't bad per se, she was cute and a very good artist. But they could have picked someone who actually committed to the company.

>>68849044
This pomudachi is coping. Pomu knew everything and didn't do jack until the day she left.

>>68849044
How long does a graduation process take?
I am wondering about the possibility she heard about Selen and noped the fuck out.

>>68848981
Sana was an entertaining streamer that sadly hated streaming, pretty sad, but it is what it is.

>>68848981
>idk man she streamed for a few months and people STILL won't shut up about her
Actually, people usually just made fun of her low subs/viewcounts, heavy accent and model while she was still active, on top of joking about her back injury and her dog dying. It wasn't until she graduated that people switched gears completely and pretended to have cared about her all along.

>>68849120
I heard here that Pomu made her mind about graduation a year ago. If Selen was gonna quit on her own it would have been months after Pomu probably.

>>68849117
To be fair, I don't think anyone really knew how bad things were until it was too late. It's literally high school again.

>>68849258
Pomu submitted her graduation in August of 2023. Way before any of the Selen shit started happening, and even considered calling her graduation off even at the last minute.
Selen had plans to stick with Anycolor through 2024 until it all imploded.

>>68849258
Maria mentioned she knew since last July. I assume that is when Pomu decided and told her close confidants in that company. Selen was probably in queue or close to being in the graduation queue but it would've had to have been after she made her new goals plans last September because around half of those goals were made with the assumption she would have some need or want to be still inside the company itself to want to accomplish them like learning Japanese and improve her singing.

>>68849939
Oh yeah, wasn't there this entire time where Selen was on the Apex grind and she worded it really weirdly?
What was it.
"My last chance to hit Predator in Niji"?
Something along those lines.

>>68850071
To be fair, that apex season was very "special".
>Treelen, my beloved

>>68849874
>>68849939
Imagine being the manager that fucked this up.

>>68849258
She made up her mind in May, when Niji took the Metal Gear collab away from her.
She was literally the biggest Nijisanji fan in the world outside of Japan and Korea and SEA, right until the minute they rejected her hopes and dreams without even trying to negotiate. She was gonna leave anyway, regardless of what management did to Selen (which incidentally started right around the same time)

>>68850141
I remember reading, the woman who sings Snake Eater came out as a Pomudachi and even has a plushie of her.
Cause a few ideas that maybe Pomu doing a Snake Eater cover or duet with her could have been in the works but it got shut down.

>>68849258
>I heard here that Pomu made her mind about graduation a year ago.
I can believe it, I wasn't a member but after she released all her member streams I started going back through them. She sounded very tired of it a long time ago and you could tell she wasn't happy about things she couldn't talk about. I was honestly surprised because I don't remember as much negativity from her general streams. I guess she felt she could open up more there.

>>68849939
Now wouldn't be some crazy shit if Doki manages to do all of that! We've got 10 and a half months to make the 1m goal happen, people!

>>68849874
August sounds late. Maria said she know Pomu was graduating in July. I guess she could have just been spreading the news before formally submitting it?

i don't think these bootlickers will actually quit, they don't have the balls

>>68849939
>Selen was probably in queue or close to being in the graduation queue
Shortly before the drama, Selen talked about having a lot of plans for 2024.

>>68848831
That probably unironically happened to Scarle with the Aster leaks. Poor smelly girl doesn't deserve this shit.

>>68849939
The monkey wrench in this is that Selen was involved in all the Japan recordings they did through the end of 2023 and would have been onboard until they came out.
If she had plans to graduate in 2024, I don't think she had the chance for it to leave the planning stages before she was terminated. Once all the 3D stuff came out, there'd be a short window until Obsydia's anniversary. If she was going to leave, it would have probably been after that.
Basically I don't think she was in queue yet at all when she got terminated.

>>68850469
Yeah, I would assume until the release of the MV, she was fully on board to still being in Nijisanji even while probably knowing Pomu was leaving which probably played a part in her wanting to release that song ASAP as a parting gift of sorts to Pomu. What happened after the MV released screwed everything up.

>>68846153
Are people forgetting that Zaion called her a backstabber for a reason?

>>68850698
I suppose we will never find out what the hell went wrong with the MV for things to escalate this bad.

>>68850858
That didn't happen.

>>68850858
Very sure Zaion was referring to Kotoka.

>>68846153
Good, I hope she never streams or tweets/xeets again.

>>68850421
>I guess she could have just been spreading the news before formally submitting it?
Yeah it's probably people considering different points in time as to when they knew about it. Someone refers to when they knew about it based on when they talked in private, while another person responds with, "I knew she officially submitted her papers in August" instead of mentioning their private talks.

>>68850875
If it ever escalates into a legal matter, the court involved would probably make it public but otherwise yeah, there's too many conflicting details in the narratives from both parties here to know what was actually happening and who is wrong here. But given the fact that artists already refuted directly Anycolor's claims about Selen never paying her artists, Selen's narrative is holding up much better here.

>>68850939
Nta, but I think he’s recalling the time that zaion label both Kotoka and Finana as backstabbers after she got terminated

>>68850141
>She made up her mind in May, when Niji took the Metal Gear collab away from her.
>Metal Gear
No way it was Metal Gear. Konami already has a business relationship with Nijisanji. If they wanted a Pomu collab, they would have gone through the official channels like they had done a thousand times in the past.
The NijiCon theory holds much more weight.

>>68851168
Considering how Sayu trashtalked her mama, I wouldn't put much weight to that. Probably salty they weren't willing to self-immolate.

>>68851380

>>68850141
>She made up her mind in May, when Niji took the Metal Gear collab away from her.
All this could have been avoided if they pushed harder for that MGS colllab. I am sure Mori would have agreed to a duo.

>>68851523
>All this could have been avoided
None of this could have been avoided with the people in charge.

>>68850141
>>68851523
Friendly reminder that Niji is directly responsible for the absolute travesty that was SNEAKY NEAKY

>>68848658
I fuckin hope she is because the collapse of NijiEN is all her fault.

>>68851211
>NijiCon theory
Idiot here; could you explain this? I know she wanted to meet Mito at one point. Would it have taken place there?

>>68850875
The alleged discord leaks is the best explanation, even though people assume it was fake. Management invented the excuse that she needed approval from all talents shown on the MV, and someone said no just to fuck with Selen.

I think it's clear management was fucking up with Selen as revenge for humiliating them. She hosted many events and even made a pretty good 3D concert featuring a lot of Niji talents. They should have done the opposite and upgraded her to Ame status.

>>68846368
She speaks Japanese. She will be fine. If anything it's her, kotoka, and meloco that could've been liaisons since none of their current managers even speak English.

>>68851998
QRD on the alleged leaks?

>>68846506
If she's to be believed, she honestly didn't know Enna and Millie applied and got in. And then when it was time to meet the new debuts there were like surprise bitch, we're in. Maybe she foresaw all this and that's why she made a big deal when ethyria first debuted.

>>68849166
Making fun of health issues and pets dying was pretty exclusively autistic 4chan retards and not the general audience

>>68847555
There's nothing to guy, my guy lol

>>68851998
Unless she was doing a Finana the discord leaks are fake as fuck, not to mention now we know she was locked out of her Selen discord account when these leaks were supposed to take place.

>>68852186
2 of her real life best friends joined the same company and even joined together in the same wave

Yeah, right. She didn't know.

>>68847624
>>68852141
stfu

>>68848981
How Sana sleeps living rent free in /vt/'s heads

>>68852141
Someone probably saved them. From what I can remember one was about people in Niji hating her, and the other was the perms issue.

>>68847555
kinda i guess since they paid for her debut MV and tsun always barely stays above red at best
>What's preventing her from doing it to NijiEN?
she is also a huge numberfag and nijien still have tons of blind defenders. sure she can go indie but she still loses good % of viewers

>>68852413
I thought they were fake too but Doki's discord avatar has the same (?) accessory as Selen's in the leak:
https://x.com/BySovereign/status/1756951410716062155
Of course if Selen's avatar was shown in public with that accessory before then it could still be fabricated but I haven't seen evidence either way

>>68846153
I want to think its because she feels responsible for getting her friends involved and then them running rampant and being assholes and bullying someone to suicide which she probably did not forsee. I hope so because then maybe i'd gain a little respect for her after everything thats happened. So many women just never take responsibility

>>68853228
It still makes no sense, that would have required Selen to join a server accessible by someone /here/ with her official account, and if she was not only pulling a Finana but leaking stuff there, you can bet your ass Niji would have included it in her list of crimes.

>>68846153
Elira please rescue Petra too when you leave. Please...

>>68852690
>Channel is wiped
>Twitter is wiped

>>68853680
Petra died while crying in Elira's tits seven days ago. The accident wasn't your fault you have to let go.

>>68853583
And what exactly would they be able to do with that if she's set to only receive DMs from friends, and it's in a private discord with nobody unrelated to the project? "oh no she has a discord account that we can't interact with"?

>>68853583
What if management doesn't have access to their discord accounts? We know they use Slack to communicate with the talents, the discords are an unofficial thing. In fact her Doki account could even be the same one and she just changed her username and pfp

>>68853583
It might not even be the same account. Display names are not unique. She could have a personal account with the same avatar and name that she uses on private servers. It could also just be fake. There's no way to truly know until/unless someone in the know corroborates what was said.

>>68853583
Indeed it makes no sense. It is certainly not a thing that has happened numerous times in the company by various menhera livers /haha/

>>68853228
It's fake, someone literally workshopped a bunch of different versions of this in the numbers thread. The first ones were stupid and full of /vt/ lingo and shit and they finally refined it to something at least semi-plausible.

>>68854165
Surely it's in the archive then?

>>68853998
>What if management doesn't have access to their discord accounts?
DYRBI.

We also know from Filian and rpr that she was locked out of her Selen discord account too

>>68854429
ALL OUT WAR, Aster-Scarle, Luca having his ex do his job for him... if management actually monitored their discord comms none of this shit would ever have happened.

>>68854803
Bunch of management literally didn't understand english at all.

>>68854978
They're probably having a hard time even understanding half the stuff that's come out.

>>68854803
I wasn't implying they monitor 24/7 (they obviously don't, not even hololive does), I was just saying that they obviously must have audited her discord after locking her out to see who she had been talking to and if she had yapped her mouth about Niji's internal approval process they would have put it into the termination tweet.

>>68854429
If we work one the assumption the (?) stayed on the SAME account which she now uses, which is her personal one, and which she used back. Sure as hell she wouldn't use corporate account for leaking stuff.

>>68855512
>https://x.com/BySovereign/status/1756951410716062155
Honestly, I don't even think that's a safe assumption to make. If she likes the flair she could put it on any account she wants.

>>68852482
Selen and Mumei didn't know about each other. They knew they were auditioning but not to which company.

>>68855616
Either way, does anyone have the second screenshot that allegedly exists? The one where she tells that "people want her out" or something along these lines.

>>68846153
So which EN's are most likely to be terminated and which ones are most likely to be kept as management pets?

>>68856515
throw a coin for Luca.

>>68853583
Why are you assuming this was her official account? There's no basis to that. I think it's pretty obvious it was her private discord server.

>>68856515
Who cares who is next. It's delayed for a month because of Selen's termination and Kyo's graduation. It's going to take most of the year to get through all the terminations over this mess at this rate.

>>68854429
>>68855181
Those are just your schizo assumptions. We already know from Finana their discord activities aren't controlled by management.

>>68854250
Yes

>>68857114
Feel free to link thread

>>68856841
I honestly love that they are stuck with a known leaker and NDA breaker for the foreseeable future because firing Luca right now would cause another shitstorm.

It really is fucking funny that Selen was going to stay for at least another year only for Nijisanji's ego filled manager(s) to fuck up everything.

>>68857370
I'll bust a gut laughing if defending luca of all people becomes the hill NijiEN will die on after letting the talents get their shit kicked in by anyone for nearly 3 years.

>>68857478
I hate so much that we'll never know just how much of it happened cause of JOP motherfuckers on Niji's end. The whole thing was so avoidable top to bottom by Nijisanji not being garbage.

>>68848282
>NijiJP
>thinking about en

>>68857370
I'm aware of the Luca situation, but who's the other person?

>>68857330
No idea which thread(s) it was, back when everyone was sitting around waiting for something to happen with Selen. Feel free to look through a hundred numbers threads if you really want to find it.

>>68851969
Niji no Conquistador. Unrelated to Nijisanji.

>>68857504
they probably would have done it anyway, he's one of their golden boys and the others tried to play hardball with management but he always sucked it up

I wish all dark mode users a very blindness

>>68858271
kek

>>68846153
she's fucking Petra in Japan

>>68858271
I can save this sassy latina, or at least pump and dump her.

>>68857942
They lost like 10% of their stocks. So I can assume they think of selen

>>68849166
This is what's always been confusing to me. She had barely any viewers and almost half the subs as the next least subscribed member, but suddenly there's a massive fanbase that appeared the moment she announced graduation. If these people actually gave a shit about her, why didn't they watch/sub to her when she was "active"?

>>68858822
She had a very dedicated fanbase on /nasa/, and SEAnigs keep bringing her up to shitpost so sleeper sanallites keep popping up too.

>>68858271
Live solar durrgin

>>68858822
>Cover misleads her in auditions
>Worst model ever made
>Cover doesn't get perms
>Hires her after the audition despite knowing they can't get perms
>Doesn't want to drawfag over Ina
>Cover literally can't spend 5 minutes figuring out what the actual fuck she's going to do when she can''t do anything she wants to do
>Shoots down your stream projects like it's DOOM (1993)
>Forces her to do stupid shit at gunpoint for the corpo
There was always hope things could get better. Instead Sana was murdered so EN could revive.

ITT people forget that Cover lost chink gacha perms in the gap between Council auditions and debuts.

>>68859837
What perms? There's 10 thousands things they can play and all Sana ever did was stream the Nintendo shit she already played in her offtime like Animal Crossing and Pokemon.

>>68846153
She tried being a good big sister and following in Selen's footsteps.
Sadly, her attempt was successful.
RIP Elira. Even though many people thought you were the leader of the clique, you proved you were one of the good ones.

>>68860086
There was other nintendo stuff she wanted but never got. It's been so long I can't remember.

im sure they're fine

>>68860005
They lost Chinese game perms in October 2020 they didn't even open the Vsinger auditions until December, and the Council auditions after that. If you're implying Sana thought she could stream Genshin or Arknights, she knew full well that she could not.

>>68846153
Personally, I would say the reason those (and anyone else that also went radio silent since the termination) are probably stealth suspended while management is internally reviewing the branch for all those name-dropped by doki's lawyers so they somewhat look like they're taking this all seriously, lawsuits are always serious.

>>68860290
They're likely doing corporate projects they can't talk about. Meanwhile management forced borderline every EN liver to tweet that they're going on a social hiatus telegraphing that corporate is investigating the situation they clearly knew nothing about until the jp notice blew up slapfighting actual Selen watchers and EN notice got community noted 5 times.

>>68860394
She's never said but it's reasonable to believe the lawyer was brought on when Nijisanji was hounding her emergency hospital contact after she tried and failed to cook nikujaga.

>>68846436
>Rosemi made a members post today.
Like, a relevant member's post? Or a boring member's post?

>>68846153
https://twitter.com/EliraPendora/status/1757201436016824482

>>68859837
Sana didn't even have the worst model in HoloEN

>>68861627
Ruh roh

>>68861627
BRANCH IS GETTING FOLDED LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I also love how they scheduled overlap Doki's stream, kek

>>68861627
Oh dear

>>68861627
>Streaming at the same time as Doki's stream
THE CLIQUE ARE OUT FOR BLOOD

>>68861627
OH NO NO NO

>>68861749
Same, I noticed it and cried a bit. Guess I'm opening two windows.

>>68861627
>The final yab is actually here
I can't believe it's actually happening.

>>68861627
Everyone is gonna be disappointed as fuck for this. They're gonna suck off niji and talk about how they're a family or some shit

>>68861534

Nothing interesting

>>68861627
It has never been more over

no matter what she says, this will go down in history as the stream that ended the war

definitely gonna be a corpo bootlicking stream

>>68846153
Realistically, what did Gura mean by this?

>>68861627
What level are we going with this?

>>68861627
>At the exact same time as Dokibird
lol

lmao even.

>>68861627

>>68846153
Nice jinx fag KEK

This could be Niji finally admitting they lost, but let's be real, it's just gonna be the usual "uwu niji did nothing wrong" written by staff, except it's just the big names reading a text.

>>68862994
I don't know, this came out with such short notice it could unironically be a "Managers are asleep, sink the yacht" stream.

$1,000 that it's a surprise collab with doki and elira, the former "sisters"

>>68863327
its gonna be either a "throw zaion under the bus" situation but for selen
or
a "nijifamily sticks together!" corpo script

>>68863327
I wanna hear Elira cackle as she goes rogue and shits on the management because the branch is about to be dissolved anyway. I want to hear it so bad.

>>68863327
Would be the funniest shit ever but it's 100% not gonna happen.

>>68846153
btfo?

>>68862994
Called it.

>>68861627

HAHAHAHAH THEY CANT BE SERIOUS

>Selen is a huge drama queen and menhera
No new info so far.

>>68862994
They are tossing her under the fucking bus factory.

>COMPLETELY
>UNTRUE
Oh boy.

That's a line in the sand.

>>68861627
DAMAGE CONTROL

my fucking sides

>>68865737
Nah, vox chose to say it. He picked his side

>>68861627
I cant believe that elira is actually a man with a deep voice

how could you guys be tricked so easily.
nijikeks cope

>that pause to audibly flip the page
lmao

Vox did the smart thing at least.

why would the livers have access to the legal documents presented by the lawyer? lol?

>>68865996
he even laughed a few times...they didnt even want to read this crap

>>68866291
They're involved with the court case.

>>68861666
Sana's was much worse than irys

why did you do it elira.......
I liked you.......

>>68865996
It might be schizo, but I choose to interpret this as malicious compliance. Mostly because its funnier.

>>68866291
They are named parties in the lawsuit.
If you listened, Elira mentioned that tbecause they're named and part of it their full legal names and address are going to be part of court record and they're scared shitless of doxxing.
But also if you're named in a lawsuit you have a right to see what you're accused of, usually they even serve you.

Nice sister you got there selen

>>68865996
How do you expect them to improvise this without getting terminated on the spot for saying something wrong?

>>68866559
fag

>>68866658
Weren't Selen and Elira sisters in their lore or something?

Dont EVER claim that Elira is a good girl again after this. This just confirmed the Clique shit in NijiEN is real.

Fuck NIJIEN!! I am never ever supporting any of these assholes or their PLs and their content ever again. Disgusting. Sink that fucking yatch!

>>68867185
I genuinely believe it was a miscast and someone else was supposed to have Selen's model since Elira is much closer with Rosemi and Petra and them being "sisters" would've made sense.

>>68867067
I don't like clown tits and anal beads.

>>68866742
it should be trivial for Niji to seal that part of the records with how many past incidents of stalking in the industry and even the company.

>>68867185
Yes.
>Niji doesn't tell anyone anything
>Doesn't even do some basic interest compatibility testing

Crazy how they start this at the exact same time as Doki's first scheduled stream

>>68866470
>>68866742
apparently not, doki just ended stream early but she mentioned that its not information to have been shared with the livers and niji illegally shared the documents meant for their lawyers, she ended stream because now she has to go speak with her lawyer kek

never trusted this backstabber. her own SISTER

>>68861627
>exactly 15 minutes long
>airing at the same time as doki
>shitting on selen to save face
Is it fully corpo scripted or is everybody in the EN branch compromised at this point?

>>68867901
So apparently Selen recorded conversations without others knowing, ghosted people and now turns out these documents involve real life info on multiple livers, she better talk fucking fast.

her lawyer is going to make bank holy fuck

>>68868626
kys NDF

>>68867308
I bet the Scarle getting gaslit shit was also real, FUCK.

>>68866559
based and true, sana's model always looked cheap and 2 view indie tier. no opinion on sana herself, just the model.

Welp Doki is fucked

>>68868626
>now turns out these documents involve real life info on multiple livers

All legal documents contain your real info, retard. It's literally illegal for them to contain false information.

>>68868760
>Hey Selen you okay why are you not responding to our messages
>HELP I'M BEING HARASSED I'M GOING TO KMS I SWEAR TO GOD HERE GOES NOTHING

>>68846153
why does everytime a Elira post like this shows up at a comedic timing last time it was during the "I'm not your friend" incident

>parasocial sisters on full damage control trying to defend what little this dying branch has left
>acting like they know somebody they've never talked to
What will happen to the NDF once EN implodes due to the entirety of the branch being a bunch of snakes?

>>68867901
Don't know Canadian or Japanese laws, but here in the land of the free lawyers are free to share voluntary communications from their opponent's lawyers with whoever they want. It's only discovery materials and some accidentally disclosed material that have restrictions.

>>68846153
I preferred when she didn't stream or tweet

>>68868101
>backstabbed by her sibling
>Niji in shambles cuz of her single actions

Unadoki is real

Hey I think it would be pretty cool to have a bunch of our talents read confidential legal documents and then publicize that information on one of their Youtube channels so that they can all be directly involved in the lawsuit instead of just tangentially involved, what do you guys think?

>>68846153
should have waited longer, dear lord

>>68846153
What are the odds these snakes try to lawsuit Niji after their shithole branch implodes and they're left with nothing after all their bootlicking and backstabbing?

>>68868914
No, NijiEN is fucked
They breached legal confidentiality, that's fucking illegal

>>68869216
its one thing to share it with the livers but, to then publicly disclose the contents of the documents to a live audience is just lol

i bet her lawyer is absolutely ecstatic at the easy win

>riku's face when his corpo puppets continue to play ball for him despite being on a rapidly sinking ship
What a bunch of fucking idiots. I can't believe I liked some of these people.

>>68870106
>>68869216
i also forgot to say, doki specifically mentioned on her streamed just now that there was a signed NDA regarding the documents due to personal info attached, so they're all mega fucked

>>68868564
>Is it fully corpo scripted or is everybody in the EN branch compromised at this point?
Chuubas are histrionic sociopaths without exceptions, wouldn't surprise me that they genuinely cooked this up together with the legal team rather than being forced into anything. Like they said on the announcement, graduation is always a possibility, they chose to deliver this statement trying to save their brand and careers rather than declining or quitting

Selen isn't completely pure either. There's no good parties in this mess, or anything related to vtubing in general for that matter

>>68868984
And what happens when one side is willing to release them into public because who's gonna stop her, retard?

>>68870436
Fair point. I'm not even a fan of Selen but have been sympathizing with her more throughout this entire thing due to Niji's history. All I hope for at this point is that NijiEN implodes and all the current employees besides the brand new ones go back to being 2 view losers while Niji's brand is damaged forever.

>>68868626
>Real life info
It is a revelation to literally no single person that millie and elira are cucknadians Elira is drama whoring with vague statements at the literally stated lawyerspeak.

>>68869051
>Don't do your job to the point that Selen has to do most of the legwork all the time
>Ghost her for a year of MV production as she assembles perm bingo
>Stab her in the ass last minute over a rule Niji didn't follow in the past and isn't following in the future and brought up for literally no one else after a year of harassing and failing her for over a year and a half of conflict.

>>68870470
>And what happens when one side is willing to release them into public because who's gonna stop her, retard?

That's not an argument. She didn't do it.
>That guy is a criminal because he has a hammer and maybe he will hit someone with it.
Doki doxxing would have actually left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths, so them being anxious about it is retarded.

>>68869492
>Liver supas for the next seven months will all go towards rewarding Selen's lawyer for raping Niji's ass raw.
The ultimate cucks.

>/NijiEN/ is slurping up all of the slop from the video like it's gospel
Are sisters really this worthless?

>>68870302
>People here always try to hype up how corporations totally take NDAs super seriously and if any chuuba even speaks a word of anything that was even kinda implied to be a secret then every company on earth will blacklist them forever
>Anycolor agrees to an NDA and then intentionally breaks it the millisecond their dumb lizardbrain instincts think it might be convenient
You can not make this shit up.

>>68868626
Canada is a one party consent state you fucking shill.

>>68870983
>left a pretty bad taste in people's mouths
Yeah I'd say it'd be pretty fucking bad for people being doxxed.
>them being anxious about it is retarded.
"Yeah you guys are getting doxxed but it's no big deal because that'll show everyone Selen is a meanie! Have fun."

>>68868564
They made it clear that they had a lawyer go over their totally natural "statements". It's just like the funny apology corporate made Selen read in the past over the tournament.

>>68871428
It's that bad huh?

Wouldn't it be smarter to have just graduated and get a "survived nijisanji" boost than doing whatever this is and being seen as a corpo footlicker?

>>68871428
The other side is slurping everyone doki says as gospel, they're worth each other.

>>68871566
Take a look at their thread. It's full of people either slobbing over the statement being so ebin and zased or saying that Selen deserved to be bullied to suicide. Sisters are really worse than I thought and I can't wait for their branch to burn.

>>68868626
There isn't a single person that doesn't know they're from cucknada.


>>68870470
Niji lawyer spends two minutes filing a motion to seal that irrelevant information you retard.

>legal documents that have personal information for court reasons, that were never intended to be public in the first place counts as "doxxing"

>>68871791
Chat reflects the streamer.

>>68871762
Most likely Elira is stuck in if she is part of that court document to feel "unsafe" so she has to lick Nijis boot at all costs. Dunno about the other two dumbfucks but hey maybe management promised them the fabled 3% raise.

>>68861627
holy fucking damage control

>>68871873
>Chuuba not lawyer preasue ohnnadastuando
It's even better cause they already talked with a lawyer that didn't tell them it's fine stop being retarded you retard. It torpedos the integrity of the hit vod.

>>68849166
>people usually just made fun of her low subs/viewcounts
enough about number monkeys. nobody likes them

>>68872100
Don't reply to me bootlicker.

>>68848658
>>68860181
CLIQUE CONFIRMED NEVER DOUBT A RRAT EVER AGAIN

Dang I like Elira

>>68872027
My rrat is that management/corporate deliberately leaked parts of these legal docs to the livers to make make it look like Selen was targeting them and try to get as many talents as possible on their side.
>Look, Elira! This meanie Selen is trying to *DOXX* you! Look at all these personal details about you she is releasing, doesn't that make you upset??
But the fact that they took the bait is just pathetic.

>>68848750
Not like Riku has enough inches to get it hard

>>68868626
>these documents involve real life info on multiple livers
mane-san you won't get sympathy here because of this. this is basic stuff that all official documents like this need. it was also never shared with the public and was just internal stuff

>>68860181
good. drama niggers like you should leave. honestly the whole drama is fucking irrelevant for every other niji fan. they are busy supporting their own oshi.

only you dokiniggers are trying to get everyone involved in your all out war bullshit. dokiniggers are the worst.

>>68871442
>>68870302
We're in a heavy speculation zone but, based on some light experience with NDAs in another industry I'd only say that it's likely the NDA was drafted to prevent external leak, not to prohibit being shared internally. In the event of part of her documented recounting of events involving other livers, they'd want to be able to cross reference. Doki's expression that it was meant to be kept to the legal department does not sound ironclad in this regard.

If they didn't redact her identifying personal information from the document that's still a bit fucked, but it's unlikely the corporation stepped out of line by internally sharing a document that was sent to them.

>>68871777
>everyone doki says
ESL

>>68862184
>Pigs
>Paypigs
>Hugged by Paypigs
>Rosemi is being bought out
>Rosemi Is Being CONTROLLED By The Corpo Overlords
>ROSMEMI HAS BECOME LIKE A PIG CONTROLLED BY COPORATE
>ROSEMISIDG IS A PIG OH GOD OH FUCK OH SIHT

>>68867585
Homosexual.

>>68872027
Vox is in there because he is living proof of a perceived inequality in the application of the (((rules))). Which is fully accurate and correct as in the past rules were not enforced fully and equally while Selen got her ass beat like a drum for a year and a half over literally anything then gets rugpulled last minute by a unheard of new rule not even Niji followed. He also doesn't understand that different countries exist and he didn't spend two minutes googling to learn that the one-party consent rules exist so it's just ridiculously scummy for Selen to have recording him to keep as a bullet.
Ike's there because he was her friend but is apparently a total mong. They're trying to dismantle the perception of the company being wholly abusive or indifferent. It's a bit weird because you would think he was smart enough to recognize the horse shit Niji is pulling to cover its ass but here we are bellyaching about contact information for the purpose of a lawyer in a lawsuit in a document being illegally shared to third parties they aren't supposed to be given to because holy shit it contains the contact information.

>>68872314
What part of Elira, Vox, and Ike are retarded and the niji lawyer facilitating that for the sake of producing a hit vod is bootlicking?

>>68872950
I mean, disclosing the information contained within the legal documents LIVE ON THE INTERNET is probably where it becomes an issue

Here’s a Rrat for yall
I don’t think ANY of the voices in Elira’s video are real! In fact I’m willing to go as far as to say they are AI generated by management.
The numerous artifacts and semi-monotone nature of the voices compared to how they talk in previous streams just doesn’t add up!
There’s no way in hell the entire video is not AI generated damage control by management

>>68873534
I thought I was the only one that felt this way watching it.

>>68873534
The video is edited to hell and back. Didn't you notice that the duration is EXACTLY 15 minutes long?

>>68873534
Reading the script does this to you especially when you're actively aware you WILL be witch hunted for this and nobody will believe a single words you say. It's like reading your own sentence sitting on the electric chair, it's must've been terrifying.

>>68873378
I might be wrong but I don't think that's what they did, at least not in an infringing sense. Each talked about their own experiences with the same circumstances.

Think OP wishes it was still 10 days since her last stream?

>>68873534

>>68866918
How about just not getting involved at all? Just say nothing and the whole situation gets resolved behind the scenes.

>>68870470
>And what happens when one side is willing to release them into public
...You mean like what Nijisanji just fucking did by leaking documents for a private case?

>>68874113
Considering Doki's lawyer started blowing up her phone after their stream started, they definitely fucked up

>>68846153
I wished it stayed that way...

>>68873534
I choose to believe this because it would make the whole situation even more funny.

they're retarded to comply regardless, but niji is clearly throwing them under the bus to try and cover its ass

>>68874247
Funny of you to assume they had a choice.

>>68846153
I hope this bitch gets cancer.

>>68874633
Except they do, they very easily could have just said no, and NOT read the fucking self-nuking PR statement on stream. What's the worst that Kurosanji could do? Fire them? Now her having no integrity and snaking a former talent is exposed to the world, and it'll follow her forever.

>>68873271
Its also worth stressing that Luca's ex-mod leaked shit, and yet Luca did not get into trouble. If that's not a sign that Nijisanji is heavily biased towards favoritism, I don't know what is now.

KOMM, SUSSER TOD

>>68872950
>to prevent external leak
and this was just externally leaked

>>68873267
>off-model
>enhanced rigging
Her base model and rigging were still shit.

thread aged like milky wine kek

>>68875485
>just be a rat and flee every sinking ship
"Integrity" you say. Maybe she should've suicide-baited as well to gather some sympathy while at it?

>>68875485 #
Except they don’t, not if they didn’t record the video in the first place. You really think Kurosanji is above AI generating their talents voices and using it to mislead fans?

>>68875942
>if you leave abuse, you are a RAT
>muh fake suicide!!
you're toxic

>>68876136
I mean it clearly works, right? Why won't everyone just always play the victim if it means people will side with them?

>>68876013
A part of me wants to say that it's bullshit because Elira, Vox, and Ike seem to be very complicit in this. Vox even seemed to be cracking up for what is a serious moment. But then again, there are reported incidents of scammers using AI to impersonate a loved one in order to bilk people out of ransoms that don't exist. So its just as likely that they faked Elira's voice, but I think the more realistic option is that she's just a slimey backstabber, and tonight alongside her friendship with Enna and Millie just cement it.

>>68872950
Someone with an actual job here: contested legal documents are fucking never shared outside of people who 100% need to handle them directly. I have been in situations where they literally describe how I specifically need to do my job, but I still wasn't allowed to look at them and had to get things filtered through the legal team. It was a pain, but there's always a bunch of out-of-text negotiation going on that necessitates it.

the fact that vox, ike, and elira were listed in the documents only proves they were part of the bullying

Reminder that NDAs cannot be used to conceal or cover up illegal behavior and if workplace harassment (aka bullying) did take place then it doesn't matter how many worthless pieces of paper were signed.

Guys...

...What if Enna really is innocent?

>>68877645
Does it really matter at this point? The masses have already decided on what they believe.

>>68877441
>the fact that vox, ike, and elira were listed in the documents only proves they were part of the bullying

This is what drives me fucking insane about this entire fiasco is that NOBODY WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE BULLYING if Nijisanji had just shut the fuck up and took the L instead of corporate schizoposting. Nobody would have known! Doki was keeping it on the downlow! It would have remained a rrat forever if they could have just SHUT THE FUCK UP but they couldn't because their feelings were hurt that they got called out for being black company by a bunch of gaijin

And then to make matters worse not only does Nijisanji confirm that Doki was getting bullied by their livers, they break an NDA to CONFIRM WHICH LIVERS DID IT

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, what the fuck are they THINKING

>>68877960
>what the fuck are they THINKING
Easy: there was no bullying and Selen overreacted.

>>68878427
Brother I'm only out here for quality bait tonight, get the fuck out of here with that weak shit.

>>68846153
>>68861627
Did (You) get what you wanted, OP?

>>68878502
Would you say I'm bullying you right now because my post isn't to your liking? Have you tried attempting to kill yourself yet?

Well if Nijisanji is going to pour gasoline on this shit, I'll at least hope they accidentally leak the bullying incidents of the accused livers too soon.

>>68877441
I honestly forgot that Vox and Ike were implicated, I thought it was just Elira, Enna and Millie whose addresses were requested in their legal document.
Said legal document which nobody else has seen outside of Anycolor's legal team, Selen's lawyer, and Selen herself. The fact that Elira acted like the whole world saw it and that she "felt like she was in danger" raises a lot of questions about her character now.

>>68872719
kys Riku

>>68877960
>they break an NDA to confirm which livers did it
what when spoonfeed
does elira admit to bullying in the video?

>>68871480
>state
take a hike eh

>>68879143
chinky troons like you never realise none of the existing liver fans support this garbage anymore. you just want to destroy their oshis and their fun. then its a different story

>>68872950
are you stupid? A legal document between two parties, ie. Dokibirds representation and Nijisanji's representation is confidential. There is no way in hell these livers should have seen that document even if they are mentioned in it. Not to mention the fact that if this document was kept confidential in the first place there would be zero risk of doxx,

Real talk, out of the accused livers who had bullied Selen, which ones do you think were forced into making a statement and which ones willingly went along with it? Or do you think everyone involved willingly went along with this shit.

>>68878427
Yeah that is probably exacly what they think and that she should be silence which they are made at her for failing

>>68879601
The fuck are (You) talking about anon

>>68861627
Ok, legit question:
Who is she banging behind the curtains?

>>68879985
I think every liver wants to take shelter from this shitstorm but management wants to borrow their credibility while they double down.

>>68880304
yeah, me

>>68860220
Sana's biggest issue was her other job, everything else are just minor irritants

>>68877638
this

>>68846368
I bet you didn't expect option 4 lmao

>>68879985
Ike didn't really have any reason to be there from what I remember. It just felt like he was forced or resigned to his fate as being part of NijiEN. Elira willingly went along with it because her and her friends are now implicated as bullies and thought it would somehow clear her name like a dumb sociopath, Vox on the otherhand probably got gaslit.

>>68875942
Then I'd rather be a living rat than a dead snake.

>>68880248
you dokinigger troons are now trying to destroy all existing livers and their fans and their fun. you actually start to accuse them of siding with the management or something. every liver work in the niji en now is your dokiniggers enemy. its simple. you are now moving to the phase.

>>68881206
Trying too hard, ESL sis. Go back to your doxxsite