/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68817832
There is no way Yunii joins Niji. Probably not Holo either. She's just gone.

ACCELERATE INTO THE ICEBERG

Who is this fucking slut

>>68817832
Holy shit I thought this was koyori, false alarm.

>>68817832
I don’t think she’s going, but I do believe there was a wave to be planned soon. Lots of graduated indies. That’s what their Mario kart tournament was going to announce…and then all that stuff happened

>>68817832
fugly AI arter i hope you burn in hell

>>68817832
Either she's going to Hololive or she's just gone.

>>68817832
Wait shit, really? That's so sad, I barely had a chance to watch her.

>>68817957
>He forget pc the second largest corp in vtubing

EN4 is this soon? Feels like Advent are just getting settled in.

>>68817864
>I hope you can understand and accept this choice of mine, and maybe one day, our paths will cross again.
She 100% is reincarnating.

>>68817950
She doesn't do AI art, she does art streams.

>>68818000
Who?

rip italian dog

>>68817864
Doubtful that any corpo would want her anyway. not because she's bad or anything but she's the model artist for a lot of people in a lot of places. Way too much opportunity for corpo secrets to wind up in a bad place if she was to get hired by anyone.
>>68818028
Have you ever actually watched her? Listen to her speak sometime and tell me that an EN corpo would want her.

>>68818006
No way it’s EN4 already. She’s either gone or going somewhere else

>>68817871
Zentreya's main model artist. Pretty much did all of her models and outfits until her most recent one.

>>68817832
Hope she enjoys her 2% merch cut with no base salary.

>Italian
HoloEU is happening

>>68818073
She's still Zen's main model artist, just for the 2D cyborg models. The 2D dragon is where the artist is different. She's also done Captain Hannah, GX Aura, and a handful of other 2D indies. I know there was a new somewhat notable model she did recently but I can't place who it was now.

>>68818155
sayu

>>68817832
>Yunii joining Niji
Now THAT'S a good joke.

>>68817918
>Koyori, one of the hardest incliners in Hololive's history, will graduate to join the next Nijisanji ENGLISH wave

>>68818000
That is Vshojo.
PC is still place 4 after NijiEN

>>68817832
WHAT TEH FUCK KOYO NO !

>>68818199
Oh she’s the artist sayu complained about

>>68817871
sayu's new mom

>>68818370
*falsely accused

Man if both of recently graduating chuubas signed contract with niji before this shitshow happened then i feel bad for them. Can they dip like that dude before debut?

>>68818569
If you mean Grimmi then I doubt she's joining Niji. i also don't see her winding up in Hololive but I'd at least buy that over Niji. Yunii I don't see winding up in either place. No idea what's up with her.

>>68818569
In theory, they could get themselves terminated or outright scrapped before debut.

>>68818569
They can do what that other guy did and leak a bunch of shit and get terminated before debut

>>68818280
>when the game is too easy and you set it to Dante Must Die mode for an actual challenge

>>68818569
I don’t think Grimmi or this girl are going to Niji. The small indies that graduated recently, maybe.

>>68818569
The auditions started on 10th of December, right? I'd assume it's a done deal by now. Imagine the poor folks that have to debut in the middle of this shitshow,

>>68817832
She'll be better in corpo I guess. Her career as an indie wasn't doing good no matter what she tried.

>>68818613
Holo is just way too early for new gen, idk. Niji is more plausible because they release them frequently. Idk what other corpos can offer them more than they have now? PC, idol?

>>68817832
Why her mascot looks almost exactly the same as Pomu's mascot? Is she the replacement for Pomu?

>>68818370
>complained
Just to provide context, she was a retard and complained about her model taking longer than she expected. Yunii sent her a message immediately after seeing Zaion's termination and offered her a model to get her back to streaming ASAP, but she already had some work queued up, so she ended up pushing back Sayu's new model for a few months. They are still friends and raid each other when they can.

>>68818763
Both of them are already established 3view indies is the problem. Not many people in that size are willing to dump it all to join a corpo. Especially not Niji where there's a distinct possibility that they could wind up making less than they were as an indie.

She has one of the most ugly ESL accents I've heard, legitimately the only person who would hire her is NijiEN.
For some reason NijiEN puts massive priority on hiring people who know other languages, the result is that almost every single person they hire is ESL by some margin or another.

>>68818569
Yunii is one of Sayu's friends, I think she would know better than to join Niji.

>>68818569
I don't think Yuniiho is going to Nijisanji. I just checked her out and she seems to be doing very well for an indie. Mid 3view, 1000+ subs, main artist for a vshojo girl, constant art work. She would be dumb to join.

Zero chance of Yunii joining Nijisanji, that'd be a very stupid move and she doesn't even need it. Also, I'm pretty sure Sayu told her about every little shady thing that's happening over there.

she is joinin Holo for sure, she is obsessed with it

>>68818960
Maybe this is the actual reason Sayu has been sadge

>>68819114
Her accent would be a huge turn off for the EN market. HoloEU real maybe?

>>68818370
>>68818526
>>68818879
>throws her 2D artist under the bus
>throws her 3D artist under the bus
Sayufags?

>>68819139
What if she's faked it and is capable of perfect English?

>>68819153
Yeah we got nothing. She fucked up with Yuuni. She was in a really bad place at the time since it was the height of all of the bullying and harassment, and she lashed out in a public space. It's a stain on her but it doesn't seem to have affected their friendship at least since they worked it out in private.

>>68817832
Woman about to get on the Titanic after it hit the iceberg....

She can't be that stupid, right?

>>68817950
>>68818037

You guys really got my hopes up for second. I honestly momentarily thought she was a based AI Optimist.

>>68819153
>Stops working with the artist that punched his cat on stream while he was working on her 3D model
>The guy even said in the same stream that he didn't want to work with a specific vtuber because she was black
>Sayu went out of her way to ask everyone to refrain from harassing him
The Yunii thing wasn't even that bad, Sayu said something retarded when she was feeling down and they patched up immediately afterwards.

>>68819347
Why are you not in school?

>>68818569
Grimmi backed out, she isn't joining anymore.

>>68819448
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if the next wave is 1-2 people.

>>68819392
Because they are full of entitled artfags like you who are seething about how the 4th Industrial Revolution is giving them a wakeup call about how disposable they really are.

>>68819464
They gonna dig some apps in the trash to fill it

is this confirmation?
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1756975169804153031

>>68819448
Smart if true

>>68819448
They are quite persuasive. They convinced Pomu to stay an extra year. They literally dangle things like the prospect of 3D and other "rewards" if the vtubers will only stave off a graduation another month or another 6 months. Remember, Zaion said they were hyping her up in interviews and promising her a huge income if she would only sign up.

NijiEN in its current state is nothing anyone with aspirations should join. Look at the sad state of the latest wave, I feel bad for the girls. The next wave will be even lower, and the next one even lower....and so on.

>>68819526
Have you ever created something in your life with you own hands?

>>68819448
>They had to cancel the MK tournament because the new wave is graduating already

>>68819531
Quite the reverse. Mori would not be allowed to do this if her destination was Holo.

>>68819563
That's a good rrat

EN4 EN4 EN4

>>68819594
it's too early for EN4, next holo gen will be ID

>>68818056
> Have you ever actually watched her? Listen to her speak sometime and tell me that an EN corpo would want her.

???

>>68819635
Holo training period is quite long, if she recently got the offer then she would be ready to debut around Advent's anniversary.

>>68819527
I can't wait for them to just recast the now vacant spots for the models they created with chatbots. Just for them to get lower numbers than the leading literal 2view AITubers after Neuro-sama. Ex-Nijisanji staff have already done exactly the aforementioned scenario, so don't sell this rrat short.

>>68819531
If Ollie can get that Homo in....

>>68819531
no that's the opposite.

You guys want Merryweather's girlfriend in Holo?

God I hope not. She’s annoying and she would be a 2view without Dya’s buff.

>>68819818
Yo are they actually? That'd be amazing if Merry had some avenue to actually help with shit. I used to read the guy's comics all the time.

>>68819818
she is not dating Merry anymore, chill anon

>>68819818
Who? Isnt that an american black boxer?

>>68819448
wait holy shit kek, so she actually was in?

>>68817832
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1756975169804153031
twitter.com/yuniiho/status/1448245881522823168

Networking

>>68818903
Yunii's tweet reads way too corporate. If she just didn't want or have the time to stream anymore, she could just stop or go on an indefinite hiatus. The way it's phrased with details down to the date reads like it's definitely a contractual thing.
Mind, it could be something other than joining a Vtuber corpo. She could've gotten a well-paying day job with an exclusivity clause, for example.

>>68819543
Yes, but the more time that goes by the more prospective candidates can see them not deliver on anything like that.

>>68819982
No

>>68820072
Yunii did draw art for her in the past, so it's doesn't mean anything else that just being friendly

HoloEN4

She is joining Pomu's new company, along with Elira, Petra and Rosemi-sama.

>>68817832
So which holo girl is she the closest to?

>>68818328
Mousey can't barely win against pippa these days
And tenma is close to henya

>>68820296
maybe
https://twitter.com/yuniiho/status/1385314895848222728

The biggest problem with a girl joining NijiEN is
1) There are very few males watching it, so the prospect of gaining new fans is not so great
2) If you already have a pre-established male fanbase, they will be driven away by NijiEN's content

You will be transitioning to a female-majority audience, which has an unfortunate habit of not donating to female vtubers and mostly supporting them out of "pity", or as shipping adjascents for the guys.

Sure some girls have made it work, but the problem is that they're riding on an audience which isn't loyal to them whatsoever and is really just there to see the guys.

I think any indies joining up have to ask themselves a tough questions "would my loyal audience really enjoy seeing me in flirts and ships with various male vtubers"? If the answer is "no" I think they need to reconsider.
Furthermore there's no real telling how much longer the branch will even last at this rate, it's collapsing so fast, and the reputation is so toxic. Maybe it'll last another year, maybe 2 years, but at the end of it you'll be left with a ruined reputation and no path forward.

>>68817832
this is very surprising ngl. it must be holo

I hope I'm wrong, but it seems that she's gone foreva

I doubt she joins Niji ( even with her 3 view ccv she is 100% in better shape than being in Nijisanji). But she moved to Japan recently if I remember correctly. If she doesn't joing Hololive and I for sure she starts working for them as a rigger/artist because my god their models are so outdated

>>68818204
Vshojo then, got it.

>>68819818
I thought he's a faggot, wtf?

>>68821376
Is Holos models are outdated then the rest of the industry must be in the stone age

>Yuniiho is the designer of many Vtubers, like Captain Hannah, Zentreya, Selkie, Murasaki Hiroshi and Lily Sin.
What the fuck why would you graduate as a vtuber artist? Wasn't she listed on the twitch awards too?

>>68821474

>>68821456
>or them as a rigger/artist becau
Yunii openly said that she is not dating him many times and yes he is a faggot

>>68820182
Dyrbi?

>>68818000
Phase isn't hiring and Invaders will be a massive risk with heavily weighed options.

>>68821474
Or you have been living under a rock in your little youtube bubble. Go check, even indies have better models than most of Hololive. Just the face tracking alone is horrendous

>>68820279
Yeah, the new company is VAllure, and Yuniiho will not stream but be a full time artist

If Yuni is reincarnating, how the hell is she going to get a model better than her current one. Is she really going to fare better in a corpo?

>>68821538
Cope, show me a single vtuber with better rigging than Holos, you can't.

>>68821676
She fares better by not streaming and just drawing

>>68821687
good one

>>68819448
/lig/ are winning

>>68821687
Dude, Gura looks like Parappa

>>68821687
Just pick any random vtuber in the large indie general

>>68821548
na Invaders are less risky than new gens, considering most Invaders already have an audience. It's just Fish being autistic and wanting Invaders to redebut. As was the case with Lisa, most protentional Invaders want to keep their current model so some doesn't want to join.

>>68821560
>Muh random indie
Go ahead, name some. Everytime you fags say this shit you never give names. The twitch whore indies I always see have awful vomit inducing rigging on their models. Who are you referring to?

>>68821542
Yes because she's going to join my wife's corpo, not nijisanji

>>68821696
>>68821735
>>68821753
So no argument, pathetic.

>>68821876
You fucking idiot, all you have to do is go see Yunii's model herself, I don't even have to point to any better and there are believe me.

>>68817871
Long-time artist Vshojo orbiter

>>68818000
>he forget english the only language of value

>>68821542
Not one bit

>>68822052
>"Only"
NGMI

She's HoloEN4.

HoloEU confirmed

>>68818328
I'm pretty sure hololive Indonesia is a bigger english language agency then nijisanji en at this point

>>68821560
This is just a fact no matter how much the corpo suckling gaslight them self.

Is this real?

>>68821687

>>68818746
?
She's a huge artist who was always getting commissions and while her numbers aren't impressive she has a large enough and dedicated enough audience to live on her streams alone.

>>68819355
>punched his cat
kill him

>>68823349
nta but he didn't really punch it, he slapped the fuck out of it tho

>>68821474
>>68821560
>>68821814
We're in a thread about Yunii and she's live right now, just go look at her to see what an actual model looks like these days.

>>68821735
I'm still waiting for someone to get a PaRappa style 3D model

>>68821548
Phase auditions are open indefinitely

>>68818711
Kek

>>68819448
>>68819537
>>68819543
>>68819982
see >>68820182
Grimmi for those of you that don't know, is not a big niji fan. She's not joining niji. She was never joining niji.
She might however have other plans about other corpos.

>>68818763
>>68818068
'Already?' keep in mind that advent was mia for a while, Shiori was on hiatus in like November/December until debut in July; they had a super long time in the cell.

>>68821530
>why would you graduate as a Vtuber artist?
three reasons
>Health
>Better offer as permanent artist in a big company
>Retire for good

>>68817832
>NIJIEN

>>68817832
hmm.

>>68825478
How do we rate this generation?

>>68823237
Clearly this isn't enough for her tho?

>>68819392
kys

>>68825763
used whore/10

>>68817832
>NIJIEN
>From an artist who makes models for herself and others
lol
lmao
OP proves against that he's retarded. She's on Japan, so probably got a huge opportunity that would make her not able to do streams.

>>68820310
When looking at average CCV Pippa is ~1/2rd Ironmouse and Tenma is ~1/5th Henya. Their peaks are pretty high though and PC as a whole is growing pretty rapidly.

>>68817864
This is a sudden decision and the timeline matches up with niji.
>>68818006
Holobegger, go back to your thread.

>>68826279
You must be over 18 to post on this site.

>>68825763
missing one more/10

>>68818569
Yuniiho already gets mid-Niji CCV, so joining Nijisanji would just be a debuff.
Grimmy gets low-Niji CCV, so again probably a debuff but it'd be more reasonable.

Yuniiho is mid-high phase, so it'd be weird to graduate into it.
Grimmy is still low-Phase, but high enough that they'd probably let her 'invade' instead of graduate.

Really, looking at it, if you get 200 CCV as an indie then the only corps you should be looking at is Hololive or Vshojo right now.

>>68817832
>joining niji after all the shit that happened
Bait

>>68817832
Artist don't graduate, she would share a art only account or say she's just gonna stop being a streamer, the way it's written looks a lot like "yeah I joined holo". I don't see her downgrading herself to other company (even holo is a bit odd since she's already big)
>>68819646
EN corpos hate strong accents + Europe

>>68827097
>Nepotism > Her ESL
ollie got her in just like that homo

>>68821814
Every indie has better tech than Nijisanji or Hololive. At this point only the poor people that have to rig their own models are at corpo tier.

On the other end the higher tier is stuff like Limealicious and Girl_DM. It's worth noting that neither are using toggles in these videos.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8h6-rU13x40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944BE6_Brks

It baffles me that corpo tech is so bad. At least improve the mouth tracking you fuckers.

>>68825763
3 pairs of boobs and a half.

>>68820310
>And tenma is close to henya
Tenma is not even half as big as Henya.

>>68826715
Vshojo doesn't require you to graduate so that only leaves Hololive or retirement.

>>68821398
She would have just fucking signed with them instead of graduating then

>>68825478
>Pomu

>>68827585
Stepping away from the numbers, she could also be bored and wanting a change. Her art is her money maker, she can afford to restart if a corpo offers an interesting enough deal.

>>68817832
Isn't she /lig/? Meaning she probably makes more than most NijiENs as an indie because of Niji's 2% bullshit?
And she's the main artist for some notable vtubers like Zentreya, which is probably good money too.
This is either hololive or she found another great job outside of vtubing.

Wasn't she making bank doing models as a vyugen artist? Is she still gonna do that?

>>68817832
>>68818000
>>68826484
nijibeggars are so retarded. Why would she downgrade to niji en? Do you seriously think that, after the things they did last year and now the situation with Selen, she would want to join kurosanji?

>>68828198
vyugen disbanded and my first hypothesis, if she quits vtubing, is because she's committing to art 100%

>>68828405
Every single time people have said "she's done with vtubing forever to focus on her real career", the person in question redebuts in a bigger org a few months later.

Her ESL is too ESL for hololive. They might have taken her in because she's italian maybe? But even then, there are better options for italian vtubers.
Her only worth is being a good artist, but is that really something hololive is looking for? As a fan I would rather have a good entertainer, a good singer, and most importantly a cute voice, she has none of these.

>>68818569
easy way out is to leak any shit and be blatant, you'll be terminated before new wave announcement.

>>68828534
Hololive has a history of taking in artists that aren't good streamers.

>>68828405
Graduation is just weird if she's still going to use that account for art.
It should have been "I will stop streaming to focus entirely on my art" or if she were actually joining a japanese corpo, "I will be a lot less active on here"

>>68820987
There's a congaline of graduations happening once a month, and not to mention terminations.
Kyo is graduating, Luca is gonna get terminated, Aster will be offered graduation or termination for being a sexual harasser, Petra is disappointed in the current state of NijiEN and might graduate as well.
Selen's termination opened a pandora box and might have opened the eyes to some of the existent talents there and made up their minds.
The yatch is sinking and if things dont change and NijiEN pretend that everything is fine and that nothing is going on, at this rate they'll bleed so many talents and the branch will be underperforming that it'll be absorbed into the main branch. Just like NijiID, NijiKR

>>68825478
Who's the far left one? Gives me Hatoba Tsugu vibes.

Hopefully she makes a list of senpai that is her oshi so niji could terminate them on principle.

>>68828534
>Her ESL is too ESL
>As a fan I would rather have a good entertainer, a good singer, and most importantly a cute voice, she has none of these.
Perfect Nijisanji material.

>>68828900
And they should've learned it's a shit move.

>>68828534
Better options? Like who?

>>68829514
NTA but Panko. She's cute, funny, has a soothing voice, can sing, can draw, her content is not monothematic (ex. only art, only gaming), she can cook, she's witty. Panko has so much going on for her that it's hard to list it out desu.

>>68817832
>NIJIEN
Yeah, I doubt it

>>68818328
>PC
Isn't that niji lite?

>>68833692
No, they will never hire males

>>68833692
It's like night and day between those two companies. The CEO regularly gets on live with the talents and talks to them, amongst other signs that the company actually gives a shit. You'll certainly never see a "negligible impact" statement from PC.

On the other hand their livers are so fast and loose with their mouths you might hear one of them calling the departed a "total bitch" or some such.

>>68817832
>That voice
Too ugly for anywhere but niji

https://twitchtracker.com/yuniiho
those are her recent numbers, an average of 700 viewers this week, as an indie keeping all the profits from her own streaming activities + everything she makes with her art
she would be absolutely pants on head retarded to move to niji to lose half her audience and give riku 98% of her income
so it's either hololive or pregnancy

>>68817950
Are you retarded? I've been following her art carrier for almost 8 years, when ai shit wasn't even a thing

>>68836397
>so it's either hololive or pregnancy
>it's both
>Yagoo got her pregnant so she blackmailed him into getting her into Hololive

>>68817832
no one with a brain would join NIJIEN now

>>68836397
>Sana 2.0 with an even thicker accent
for what purpose

>>68837012
New home for the Sanalites.

Wave 10 will get less debut support than TTT got, and won't get any post-debut support after their first month unless they pull in Gura/Salome level numbers.
Remember that TTT got almost no pre-debut marketing, they didn't sing their own theme song, and they didn't even have an official name - the talents had to come up with the name themselves. Wave 10 will have it worse than TTT did, and that's even before taking Niji's self-inflicted shitstorm into consideration.

There will not be a Wave 11 for Niji EN. There might not even be a Wave 10, depending on how angry the investors are at Riku.

She just drew fanart of Dokibird. There is no way she's joining niji

>>68836397
I hope she will still make models for Zen.

>>68817832
I thought this was Koyori graduating for a minute and was disappointed when it wasn't.

>>68838042
She didn't make that model

>>68836397
That number is literally better than half of NijiEn, had to giga retarded if she's joining

>>68823481
cats are whores they love consecutive ass slaps

>>68827829
2% are from merch sales only. Meanwhile most indies don't even have merch.

>>68838393
You're probably not wrong in that most indies are 1 views with nothing really going on, but most 3-views do at least merch drops if not a full-time merch store.

If any of you had ever watched her streams, you'd know. She's always been clear about never quitting streaming without a damn good reason. She's said time and again the only thing that'd make her ditch Twitch is if she got into Hololive. That's the dream, right there. She's been cranking out Holo talent fanarts for years now, so yeah, it's pretty obvious. No room for doubt, imo

>>68817832
hope the NijiEN clique eats her alive

>>68836397
>>68839188
>>68837984
>last stream scheduled for March
So EN4 in the summer is confirmed, alternatively she’s giving birth (all me, all mine btw).

>>68839492
Kiara finally getting an EU buddy would be amazing, please Cover..

>>68818280
You jest but Koyori is fire and it wouldn't even slow her down.

She pulls in over 700 viewers and probably banks more than any Nijisanji. Jumping to a smaller corp than Hololive would make zero sense. I know Yunii, and she'd never bail on her community unless it was for Hololive

Is this going to be a repeat of that one Seraphine looking girl that was supposed to join holo (after mori called in to her birthday) but instead made some corpo only to disappear?

>>68827585
Hololive doesn't require you to graduate either, but it may be hard managing both lives at the same time.

>>68819526
>>68826279
Why are AIfags so menhera about not having any skills?

>>68839991
Yeah, people on this board are mind broken by corpo numbers. If you are living in the first world you can make a ok living streaming with a dedicated 100-200 viewers as an indie ( I know one that does off 60 because they are particularly loyal). 700 plus doing art for fairly large names? she is making a VERY nice living for herself.

would it even make sense for such a big indie (and artist) to go corpo now, even if it's hololive?

>>68841876
1-200 is probably "I can quit working at walmart"
4-500 is probably "I can quit working a real job"
700 is definitely a nice amount.
After you breach 1k you can retire early if you play your cards right.

>>68828966
The talents know everything we know, and they also know a shitload of stuff we don't know.
However bad things look to us on the outside, know that things are actually worse.

>>68839991
Most people on /vt/ just have no perspective on how much indies make, especially on Twitch where you have a lot of community overlaps.

Aethel made like 55k in merch in one week as a MALE vtuber as a 1-2k ccv streamer with absolutely 0 fujo pandering.

>>68842383
If she uses Holo connections to boost her artist career like Ina does, sure.
But Yunii seemingly leaving her entire art business behind wouldn't make sense. Does she have another artist handle?

>>68846892
She said she's still gonna put up art on Yuniiho and use it as a personal account, but she won't be tied to streaming anymore.