/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68754124
I don't she she ever said she tried to commit suicide did this? She certainly implied it for pity points, but she would't say it.

>without permission
https://twitter.com/LilyPichu/status/1754736476762640409
Fuck off

>>68754124
retard

>>68754184
Without permission FROM MANAGEMENT. It's an absolute minimum requirement in working in any corpo, you illiterate monkey.

>t. picrel

>>68754162
Oh, she said "there was AN ATTEMPT" in one of her streams and she never denied when people said it's a suicide.

>>68754124
>Imma ignore all the bullying and stuff

>>68754124
So true sister.

>>68754124
I don't doubt she had a menhera fit and tried to suicide. I also don't doubt she intentionally used a method infamous for failing and resulting in a stomach cleansing and a tongue lashing from the nurse.

>>68754255
Proof of the bullying next thread?

>>68754124
Learn from the deadbeats and wait 3-6 months before you try to astroturf and make up newfags minds with lies, sister

>>68754124
There is a timeline out there where that black corpo didn't reject her neutral graduation and every one just move on without batting an eye

>>68754124
Did you finally stop coping and seething about Luca and his discord mommy, sister? Kek.

>>68754305
That's literally a description of events.
>>68754307
Unless you know that her contract allowed for graduation at any time she requested it, any claims that she was held down against her will are just narratives.

>>68754307
>didn't reject her neutral graduation
Proof of her talking with management about the neutral graduation next thread?

*sigh*

>>68754162
Women weakly "attempt" suicide for attention, men actually finish the job seriously.

>>68754124
>Nooo she broke the RULES! She disobeyed the MANAGEMENT!
Female or Asian?

>>68754433
t. has never been employed and lives in mom's basement

>>68754433
female, its a cuckub.

>>68754124
have fun sucking corporate dick and getting ignored for the rest of your life

>>68754124
>a $5 steam gift card has been added to your account

>>68754208
No, OP said "without permissionS", not "permission". Fuck off, you disingenuous little weirdo.

>>68754506
>he says, while defending an online grifter getting obscene amounts of charity money from horny weebs

>>68754467
Been employed in several differnt places, live alone. That aside, the issue here isn't that breaking the company rules can get you fired (which is true) but that the mentioned groups of people tend to equate company rules with moral rules, and think that breaking them makes you a BAD PERSON.

>>68754124
1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre

>And a day after the """suicide attempt""" she was already playing Apex
Proof for this claim?

>>68754651
Do you have hospital receipts that she attempted to off herself? Then it's as valid as saying she was playing Apex a day later.

How long will you guys be seething about her mogging your entire branch after slandering her

>>68754651
Reimu's stream. She appeared in her friend list, online, playing apex.

>>68754704
Gotta take what you can get.

>>68754124
Okay, now type this in your native language next
Deepl will translate it better than you've ever could

Lucucks aren't taking the news well huh?

>>68754255
>oh no I was bullied : (
>but no I won't reveal who or why, I will just continue to let them abuse others

Did we forget that Nijisanji is the one that threw themselves under the bus while trying to smear her?

>>68754307
>Unless you know that her contract allowed for graduation at any time she requested it, any claims that she was held down against her will are just narratives.
>>68754419
>Proof of her talking with management about the neutral graduation next thread?
Millie, ask your management about that, not me. Oh wait, they're silent as fuck

>>68754847
they are both shit, NIJI is worse but Selen is a NIJI thorugh and through.
She sure as hell doesn't belong in hololive

>>68754558
you cant kiss corpo ass this hard and then call people disingenuous. on the other hand, every single thing that has been said to disparage what Doki has said is disingenuous. non-retards have known something was up with nijien's management since at least yugo's termination, it just got worse and worse but then there are still faggots like you simping for a brand to the bitter end. Why? if Doki is full of shit you can just let it go and wait until the truth comes out (tho she has the receipts for her side of the story), but instead you seethe and rage for the sake of defending a corporation worth billions of dollars, dont you think that kind of weird?

>>68754924
That guy isn't sucking corpo ass at all though? The guy he's responding to is

They do it for free, btw

>>68754924
Friendly fire

Hi OP, I know who you are. I rap a song for you
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>>68754923
Desperate falseflagging.

>>68754124
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>>68754841
Niji EN is dead and there's nothing you can do about it, intern. Selen won.

>>68755051
go back to /v/ tard

This endless niji drama has showed me just how many women post on this board. We must be 50% femcels which is an incredible amount. How did so many pimply faced Asian bpd femcels get here?

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>>68755221
Unironically Luxiem is the only reason.

I'm just waiting for a lawsuit. Then counter-lawsuit from Selen/Doki. And only then all the dirty laundry will be revealed. As long as there won't be a lawsuit that forces it no names will be named and no more wil be revealed.

>>68755093
Niji does not send their best anymore, please understand

>>68755221
nijien thread is quite literally 90% femcels and they also have their own split thread

>>68754924
PUT THE GUN DOWN THAT'S A FRIENDLY YOU'RE AIMING AT

>*bullies Selen*
>NOOOOO WHY ARE YOU BETRAYING US? YOU DUMB MENHERA IS YOUR FAULT THAT YOU TRIED TO COMMIT SUDOKU

What a way to showcase an entire train wreck by only describing the caboose.
It’s self apparent that she’s a very ambitious person, constantly pushing the limits of what she can do.
After having the door slammed shut on her face last second so many times for questionable reasons beyond it simply being limited to the legalities, by an upper management of a company known to play favorites.
That she would resort to kicking said door down after having her trust and faith eroded to such a point is to be completely expected & predictable.
Niji should’ve forseen how things would of played out, and dodged this PR disaster by preempting it with proposing to her an amicable graduation back in AUGUST.
After running so many livers through the meat grinder, it was only be a matter of time before one for the livers haphazardly spat out of the machine at such a weird angle that despite said liver’s intention they’d become the proverbial wrench.
Njij has no one but themselves to blame for what became a inevitable result of continuing to play their stupid myopic game.

>>68754236
I believe it was an attempt on her life by an assasination squad sent by Riku, and she survived it. She's never explicitely said it was a suicide attempt.

>>68754124
At this point I can’t tell if this is a bait thread or the NDF being too damn predictable. Either way, OP is a faggot.

>>68754124
based selen

Based

>>68754124
fuck off millie

>>68754124
More like all Nijisanji had to do was write a termination announcement as terse as their IR letter and barely anyone would be talking about this

>>68756516
>Niji should’ve forseen how things would of played out, and dodged this PR disaster by preempting it with proposing to her an amicable graduation back in AUGUST.
I like how many of these posts defending her boil down to Selen being a literal retard with no personal agency. The company should have given her a therapist. The company should have told her to quit if she doesn't like things are run. The company should have reminded her the rules in the contract she signed apply to her. The company should have wiped her ass for her.

Ff: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CL7SHoB_T0w

there's literally no point arguing with nijisisters because they will move the goalposts until the heat death of the universe, other schizos are like little babies compared to women

>>68754124
seriously Millie... just stop

>>68754124
Fuck off millie

>>68754307
>neutral graduation
She wanted AC to pay her damages in court.

>>68759145
You mean basic PR and competence? yeah no wonder those concepts are foreign for you NIjisisters.

>>68759736
Considering that they covered up bullying and she was willing to keep quiet about that AND the suicide attempt and they technically owed her more than what she was asking for on top of what they eventually lost in stock prices (Over $120 million) I'd say that's pretty fucking neutral all things considered.

>>68754124
Show us your tits Millie, you angry bitch!

>>68754124
shut up Millie, nobody likes you

>>68754124
When you put a talent into a black hole for a over a month until fans and friends start a hashtag to ask questions, you've already lost the PR game. She fucked up at multiple points not securing the green light from management, and the company had every right to terminate her contract. They just went about it in probably the most retarded self-sabotaging Wile E. Coyote way they possibly could. That raises broader questions of administrative competence and process that I imagine the leadership will respond to with more layers of bureaucracy to choke creative output, which is what led to this in the first place.

>>68760280
and you posted this with the most retarded intent.

She HAD permissions you absolute faggot, the issue wasn't the song or the music, the issue was Niji not giving her permission to use graduated vtubers in the video. No matter how you fucking look at it she got the perms for everything, it was THEIR fault it happened because they took too fucking long to give her the perms.

>>68759736
>She wanted AC to pay her damages in court.
are you retarded?

>neutral graduation on 26th JAN
means they're just gonna shake hands and move one

>if the negotiations did not progess, she would proced to realase a statement regarding her "claims" to the public

She did released her statement & "claims" on her PL account after they fired her.

She didn't mentioned or ask for any damages fee from kurosanji either

and yet we're not hearing anything from Kurokara?

Selen won. Cope harder nijisister, you lost.

>>68760471
>the issue was Niji not giving her permission
I'm glad we agree, not sure why you're angry.

>>68754124
I do not get how people even consider arguing along the lines that she hid this video from management to upload it without approval.
Work on this was public knowledge since she was open about it on streams, wasnt it?
Also the artists expected to be paid by management (and apparently getting contracts from them). How could management be unaware?

>>68760805
Because you blame Selen for "not getting permissions" when Niji have every ability to give her permissions with zero issue.

>>68759736
>harassed by other affiliated Livers due to mismanagement
>due to mismanagement
What? How?

>>68754124
Why do you work for a company that drove one of its talents to suicide then put a target on all of the rest of their backs by pointing the finger their way?

I mean, I get the liver's situation, their job pays a lot of money and they can't quit on the spot without being in violation of their contracts. But you? This is a pump and dump job at best. I dunno, maybe you do social media campaigns for a bunch of other companies too, or maybe you are someone with a decent job at AnyColor that just got stuck with this task, but either way, you don't really have to do it. You can pick and choose jobs without being fired, yes?

Do better.

>>68754124
jesus fuck OP, how much money are they paying you to keep rimming riku's dirty asshole, you filipino motherfucker

>>68761020
>What? How?
"Now other talent is harassing me for not getting permissions when that's only because you didn't send out contracts even though I asked you 6 months ago."
A made up scenario but this is how

>>68754841
Meanwhile OP
>I have all this weird headcanon with zero proof that you must believe instead of this other stuff where there's a ton of proof just not enough to satisfy me!
Bruh, what's with the inbred-fuckwit level double standards? Are you OK?

>>68754124
shut up millie

>>68754124
Typical seethpost made by a hardcore Niji bootlicker.

>>68754124
her manager didn't do his job. she tried to do a lot of stuff, and almost all of it was sabo'd by her manager.
and this isn't the first time niji's management does jack shit instead of their work. remember the secret chat stream? that should've been stopped by manager, and yet it wasn't.
and to top it all off, niji wants numbers from their talents. yugo didn't get the numbers, so he was fired. but how the fuck are you supposed to get those numbers if your management does jack shit?

>>68760805
Don't expect the power of some NijiEN fans to deny reality. Management knew about the video being made for about a year or two, Selen probably sent them WIP stills for ages. Its just that whoever was in charge was incompetent and probably didn't even look at any of the drafts, they probably just said
>yup looks great
and only took it down after they got into trouble with their boss over some arbitrary rule.

>>68754718
why aren't there clips circulating, this is big if true

>>68763176
You don't even need clips, we have apex tracker.

>>68763344
Diving into video games, hard, is the first thing I did after my last bout. It's escapism, and thus to be expected.

>>68763344
whats strange about playing games after you get discharged from the hospital?

>>68763534
Three straight days of Palworld.

Yeah, that sounds like the act of someone who's suicidal.

>>68763665
Yes, escapism to escape the thoughts is an extremely common thing to do when you're suicidal.

Seriously anons how fucking retarded are you guys?

>>68754124
Take your meds, faggot

>>68763665
do you know what escapism is?

>>68754124
Even if she did attempt you could claim it was a huge overreaction like a teenager suiciding because they got rejected by their crush, not fault of those who reject them

>>68754124
It was the four page termination notice from Kurosanji that claimed the bullying was coming from the livers you dumb shit.

>>68764042
every single suicide attempt is an overreaction, what are you even arguing here?

>>68754124
The cover was on her schedule. It was approved by Kurosanji managment but then they changed their minds.

>>68754813
should change it to
>Whoever signed this was definitely a woman, right?

>>68763589
I guess because it a competitive game so that you can't have fun while playing it
dunno, anon, I have trouble figuring out a better argument nijijtards can came up with.

>>68754572
>online grifter
I don't think Riku would like you calling his internet black company that, sister

Deleting her channel shows how Nijisanji have purely malicious intentions.

>>68754124
>Selen is a passionate personality, sometimes to a fault
>got bullied, wanted to graduate
>made a goodbye video for the ones she felt closest to
>ergo video has sentimental value to her

If you can't understand that the video was meant to be a personal message to some of the other girls, and that she got denied showing that to everyone because of managerial incompetence, you're a fucking retard.

>>68754124
Why are you so upset? Sis? Enna?

>>68754124
>your dogshit management takes 500 weeks to get even the smallest thing done but you MUST wait for them and don't dare to get permissions yourself within a day easily
>you MUST turn down and all deals, offers and sponsorships because, well just because okay!!!
>no we wont fund any of your projects, make do with your 2% lol
shut the fuck up lmao. she was in the right, stop hamstringing the fuck out of your talent. literally zero point to being in that fucking corpo, not only do they do nothing for you they actively hinder you every step of the way when you want to do anything and delete any opportunities that come your way

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>>68763887
I forgot my sarcasm tag.

I do mean that locking yourself into a video games for days straight is a clear sign of depression. Though, hell, three straight days of Palworld is enough to make someone suicidal in and of itself.

>>68754124
>interns are this bootyblasted that she's keeping "dragoons"

>>68764657
Its really disturbing how Nijisanji EN sabotages some of their talents to a nonsensical degree. You grow at the rate they want you to grow or else. Its like the worst parts of an actual real life entertainment industry, but worse.

>>68764042
she was bullied on several occasions for months, I think it's an appropriate reaction even if I think it's wrong.

>>68765011
oh, you must grow, or they kick you out. see yugo. but then how the fuck are you supposed to grow if the management kicks the dick?

>>68765137
Care to provide proof that she was bullied? She quite clearly had a positive relationship with the people you retards keep pointing fingers at. She was doing collabs with Enna and Millie all the way into November 2023. Who collabs with people they don't get along with?

>>68765011
nijisanji is literally a cartoon villain, its action doesn't make any sense
Some real villains would exploiter her hard work with minimal support so she doesn't leave
Nijisanji wants control first, money later, but after money, comes more money.

>>68765295
If the recent Aster-Scarle situation is any indication, management wont do anything to actually try to intervene, they'll just try to force the people to get along for the sake of NijiEN's "Family" image and pray it works out.

>>68765295
The proof is her own testimony and nijisanji termination notes.
You are the one that doesn't have proof about her NOT being bullied, having collabs isn't proof because they are coworkers

>>68754124
The funniest bit about this NDF cope is that her initial statement included none of the information people claim she was using to fish sympathy with.
We know about her attempted suicide because NIJIEN made a statement saying she tried to kill herself.

>>68754295
What the fuck so you mean by "proof"? Both Niji and her have mentioned it. Do you want a 4K recording of other livers bullying her?
>>68754400
Source: (You) made it the fuck up

>>68765938
Nijisanji's statement says that she claimed she was harassed and would put out a statement making those claims public if they didn't give her money. They never said that she actually was harassed.

>>68763344
>just after she got back from the hospital.
So... not a day after the attempt.
Literal nothingburger

>>68763344
>Oh no, a person is playing a video game after hospitalization!
Not every one of them plays only for the job.

>>68766193
Of course they won't say she was harassed. They aren't retarded. My point is, what do you even expect as "proof"? Nothing she could do is going to satisfy Nijisisters. However, if Niji thought this was bad enough and that she was lying, they could very well sue her for defamation. They aren't doing that, though, which speaks volumes

>>68754124
And it wasn't even an original song.

NDF here OP is a falseflag.
NDF solemnly vows to support Selen now Dokibird in all of her endeavors.

>>68765938
>Both Niji and her have mentioned it
>gets proven wrong immediately
>>68766408
>OF COURSE THEY WON'T SAY SHE WAS HARASSED
Moving goalposts much?

>>68766193
>if they didn't give her money
If they didn't let her graduate quietly.

If they had, they would have been completely successful in covering up the suicide attempt, and impersonating her to do so would have paid off.

If a NijiEN talent actually succeeds in sudoku, we might never hear about it. They might be posting in their socials for months afterwards. Think about that.

>>68766503
Notice how I said "mentioned" instead of "confirmed" retard.
It's pretty obvious that NDF ran out of capable soldiers and are being forced to send bench warmers out

>>68754124
You don't show proof of your suicide attempts so why should she?

>>68766453
Yellow Selen, my beloved

OP IS A FAGGOT!

This is now a Selen/Dokibird thread!

>>68766589
Notice how you also said that them merely mentioning the bullying claim was strong enough evidence that no further proof is required, in other words a "confirmation"

>>68754124
She was leaving, that mv was meant to be her graduation song just like it was her graduation song for doki , management planned to never release it an keep it in production hell till she was gone and it wouldn’t matter anymore