/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Chinese.

>>68725446
>sentence
>fake laughter
niji won

>>68725446
being too based

>>68725558
28k… fuck you.

>>68725446
Based

>>68725446
Mumei’s piss is laced with stupid bitch juice

>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
based

>>68725446
a strong case of middle finger

>>68725446
total niji death

>>68725446
>spends the entire stream shitting on corpos
>shamelessly talks about her PL
>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
How is she so based?

Nijiseethe

>didn't go with freebirds and calls them dragoons
Uhm based? She built that fandom from the bottom up and spent more money on Niji and her own community than the limp dicks in management.

>reclaims her oshi mark
>reclaims her fan name
based

>>68725446
>shamelessly talks about her PL
whats even the point of going indie if thats still taboo?

>>68725446
Imagine kicking out your streamer, but she takes back everything and grows even stronger. Embarrassing.

>>68725558
>31k
Please die.

>>68725446
Her PL is pretty public record. Is this new model a jailbird? She can call her gang dragoon's if she wants.
I don't see a problem with shitting on corporations like that. What's YOUR problem, OP?

DID ANYONE SAY BASED

>>68725446
uh BASED? Why is anyone staying in nijisanji to get shat on

>>68725446
yeah, I'm thinking based

>>68725446
>shitting on corpos
>28k easy
Duh

>>68725446
>what the fuck is her problem?
Her problem is called being based as fuck

oh no oh no riku isn't going to like this
NDF, I pray for your safety

>>68725446
>MFW i gave up Freebirds for Dragoons
fuck me

>>68725446
isreal? based if so and nijisanji can only seethe

SISTERS' STATUS?

>>68725446
Being too based

as a holofag, I found her pretty fun in that collab with mumei, even though she's not my cup of tea I genuinely hope she stays as successful as holos by herself

Total Boomer Victory

How does anyone give even the slightest shit about PL, ever

>>68725446
To be fair, all the other fanbase suggestions were trash

It's official. Dokibirb leads an army of 32 Dragoons.

>>68725446
>what the fuck is her problem?
months of abuse working for a shit corpo that led to an attempted suicide and corpo trying to make her tell people everythings fine while at the hospital and then just being blindsided with a bullet points termination notice while she was trying to leave on amicable terms.

not enough for you?

>>68725446
Why this model fits her better than the old one?

>>68726610
31.4K to be precise

>>68725446
>spends the entire stream shitting
Say no more babe I'm cummin

>>68725446
Sounds pretty based. I'll check out the vod now. Thanks for the heads up.

>>68725446
Uh yeah that's pretty based

>>68725538
fpbp
her whole surprise was lunar year merch.

>>68725446
>>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
We gonna be Nesticles now.

>>68726968
that was something she announced in her return stream lmao, it wasn't a surprise

>>68725446
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>68725446
*sigh
boot licker.

>>68727087
And the merch won't be released for awhile because they have so many orders for the other merch

>>68725446
>>68725538
>>68725558
link your shitty raid discord I have some gore to spam

>>68726005
What is Niggersanji going to do, fire her?

>>68725446
BASED ALERT

>>68725446
>what the fuck is her problem?
The problem is she's too based.

>>68726726
Going from about 125,000 on the comback stream and now only around 30,000. That's a 75% drop already. Not looking good for the long term. A few male collabs and she'll be right back to her old numbers.

>>68725446
nijiseethe, sister.

>>68725446
>Can't copyright "dragoons" since it's an actual word
Actually smart thinking

>>68725446
Based, she's still the same person and shouldn't pretend otherwise.

>>68725446
>dragoons
Before it was a play on dragons now its a play on drag and goon

>>68725446

>>68725446
>calls her fanbase dragoons
wdsmbt?

>>68727733
She played the long game and won!

>>68727733
She meant TOTAL NIJISANJI DEATH

>>68726376
Freebirds was good for a day but it's dumb if you're not gonna build your image for years to come just on shitting on niji

>>68725446
>leave my multimillion dollar corporation alone!

>>68727733
Giant middle finger to nijisanji, and fuck those faggots. Dragoons aren't copyrighted, she built that fanbase FROM THE GROUND UP and if she wants to keep it, name and all, she's damn justified

>>68726685
I want her smug face on Selen's model, then its perfect for me.

Being too based is her problem

>>68725558
https://streamable.com/2qgth0
Don't you have little Japanese boys to rape?

>>68725737
Doki ought to have a Mumei pee drinking stream

>>68725446
Wow, acting like a pathetic bitch really is the cheat code to success. Already immediately shilling as much merch as possible despite apparently nearly killing herself. She learned from Mouse.

>>68727966
>from the ground up
Just like every other corpo tuber

>>68725446
jannies are deleting her general on sight, numberschizos are losing their minds over her ccv for some reason

>>68725861
npbp

>>68727966
>Dragoons aren't copyrighted
Depends, did any of her Selen merch use that name? If so then they were created under NijiEN's IP and they own it. Not saying they'd do anything about it but gotta parse these stuff out before she assumes the wrong thing and steps on a landmine later.

>>68727881
still the same name as it was in nijin and we can make it our own thing AND still poke fun at nijin. come on

>>68725446
BASED

Total niggersanji death

>reclaims her oshi mark
>reclaims her fan name
>shit talk on Corpo
Based

>>68728237
That's not how trademarks work

>>68728490
its over nijisisters
https://files.catbox.moe/0vh63r.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/0se8jm.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/pt2yb9.mp4

>>68728522
You're right, it gets contested in court when money is involved and they figure it out there. Just saying she's taking a stupid risk just to flex.

>>68728237
>Dragoons
>they own it
Does Anykara own Europe and its’ people’s history?

>>68728195
Uhm, yeah, why do you think someone's CCV is 1k when the other is 10k, even though they are in the same company?

>>68728237
don't know enough about trademarks but they have used "dragoon" in official merch before

>>68728490
Totally trying to let bygones be bygones and look to a fresh new start. Definitely not a vindictive bipolar bitch

>>68728616
>esl recorded himself
Based for shitting on niji, cringe because you're esl.

>>68728237
At worst she can do Dokibird Dragoon for merch.
It would still be different then the Nijisanji ones.

>>68728237
They own the character that was created for them. They don't own the name 'dragoon'. They don't even own it for mascot characters. If they were going to go that far, they'd have to trademark it, which they didn't.
As far as copyright is concerned she's free and clear.

>>68728522
"Dragoon" is just a fucking regular word, you can't trademark its use.

>>68728787
Yikes. I hope they just stay quiet then.

>>68725446
>shamelessly talks about her PL
The age of PLs being a taboo topic is all but completely gone at this point, way too many high profile reincarnations for people to keep pretending that they don't know who everybody was already

>>68728673
They can't contest it in court unless they applied for a trademark on the word "dragoon" in the context of streaming.

>>68728237
>Actually implying that Niji can copy the word "Dragon"
Are you fucking retard ? Holy shit please kill yourself uneducated faggot

>>68727435
The return stream had one of the biggest drama buffs ever in the VTuber sphere. I'd say that it's a good sign that she's still holding onto 30k at this point.
>male collabs
Anyone who cares about that does not care about this situation.

>>68728849
Design can be trademark

>>68725446
None of this ever happened btw
NDF are shameless in their lies

>>68728237
>>68728787
>>68728673
>I have to share the board with retards like this

>>68729121
So she makes a new design, easy.

>>68728818
>>68728828
Don't be retarded. In the miniscule chance it ever goes to court it's not gonna fly that she just happened to name her new fans amd merch the same thing as when she was working under a corpo's IP. Like I said it's a stupid flex.

>>68729079
*Dragoon

>>68729148
The NDF know only to attack, not to think.

>>68729121
Good thing the design is different then

To be honest, she held the Dragoon to the end, so I suspect she probably sought some legal council beforehand.

>>68728784
You refuted nothing, monger. If they’re in the corpo, they’re benefiting from exposure and playing a pre-designed character. They can’t say that it was something they built from the ground up by themselves.

>>68728907
PL taboo was only ever for the benefit of corpos anyway.

>>68729121
she's making a new design rn

>>68726685
Same. I think her old model filtered me, but this one...

>>68729121
The design is copyrighted, I doubt they trademarked it. Trademarks are explicit, you have to file them and, if accepted, they have strong protections. Copyright can be implicit and the strength can vary.

>>68728907
It should be gone at this point, it was one of the dumb made up things Vtubing agencies in Japan put up and it's not even part of idol culture, idols can talk about what they did at different companies. Should be no different for Vtubers unless we're talking about company specific stuff and stuff you can't legally talk like any other job but you should be able to talk about what you streamed and events and what was done publicly.

>>68729271
She has a pretty solid case, dragoon is just a regular word, a type of soldier. If she makes a distinct design to go with it it's no more copyright infringing that the thousands of screeching content creators calling their fans "armies" or "squads"

>>68728907
Unless it’s about behaviors that would make their fans leave in disgust, then quintuple standards apply.

>>68729271
I hope so. This would be a stupid way to get bogged in legal problems if it comes to that. The shitposts over it would be endless.

>>68729189
It'll fly just fine since they have no grounds to complain, but I do agree it's a poor idea to antagonize a big corporation needlessly. I still love that it's happening though.

>>68725446
I won't watch Doki much longer because I assume she'll male collab soon... But Holy fucking shit that's utterly based

>>68729592
She plays Apex so yes expect male collabs

>>68728207
You're in a Doki thread, not in a Mike thread.

>>68725446
>>68725558
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike

>>68729270
Just like everything else? Do you think Twitch streamers build the fucking website?

>>68729414
Corpos don’t want people to be aware the demure little girls are all hags with miles of dick. People tend to resist spending money on proven used goods.

>>68728787
Dragoon is a real word. Is final fantasy gonna sue Nijisanji because they use the word dragoon?

>>68729592
She is the most fun to watch when she is having fun with friends, coincidentally that is also when she is playing apex with other people

>>68726046

>>68729896
It's a type of soldier, calling her fans her "Dragoons" is no more a violation of trademark than calling them her "Army" or something generic like that

I happy Nijicucks are getting what they deserve, and recognizing her old fanbase is pretty sweet
but le corpo bad mentality is such a retarded westoid faggotry, I'm afraid something similar is going to happene to hololive at some point and suddenly twitter trannies and justice warriors are going to team up against cover and there that's it vtubing in the West, a new era of twitch thots with no sense of direction or mission, just a bunch of faggots and trannies without the intellect or the will to create something bigger
vtubing is never going to become a big industry and the reason is Americucks are more commies than chinks at this point, and I'm sure you think that's good but that's because you're too short-sighted, you don't know what you've got until you lose it, I'm not saying corpos are always good, I'm saying they're necessary

>>68729793
You’re an imbecile if you can’t differentiate between being handed over a corporate designed gimmick and using a streaming service, the only similarity is that both have terms by which streamers have to comply, which apparently doesn’t seem to apply to your based bipolar cunt.

>>68729764
Still better than sighposting

>>68729807
Like any NA/EU woman that doesn't look like an actual bog witch makes it into her twenties untouched, get real.

>>68730067
>I happy
The esl is cooking!

>>68730094
Clearly, the design is debuff, looking at her number now. Maybe look before you talk, retard. And I like how you already ignored the exposure aspect because it didn't fit your narrative.

>>68730271
Exactly, but the difference is the sort of people who watch this shit want to believe otherwise. They don’t want to get evidence rubbed in their face that would break the suspension of disbelief.

>>68730249
So true sister!

if you’ve already landed your grift better then anyone could have hoped idk why you’d keep escalating it

>>68730437
>gets exposure from corpo by way of drama
No one would know who the fuck Dokibird is without Nijisanji creating a Selen and mismanaging her to the point of suicide, you don’t operate in the real world you whining, brainfuckedness-worshipping cunt

>>68730067
The last corpo Doki was in made her try to kill herself. It's stupid to think all corpos = bad but I'm totally letting it slide in her case

>>68728791
>Totally trying to let bygones be bygones
She tried that. she asked niji to give her a short graduation stream on the 26th of january.
They responded by quietly removing all content from her channel and firing her without even notifying her she was fired.
at this point they're just getting exactly what they deserved. they chose war and are finding out they have no soldiers worth a shit to fight it.

>>68725446
>what the fuck is her problem?
Nijisanji.

>>68728791
bpd is borderline personality disorder not bipolar disorder (usually)

>>68728784
She built her fanbase, just not from the ground as she was given free public and adversiment as her debut as a corpo should. Doesn’t mean she didn’t work hard to earn this incredible fanbase, but it wasn’t from the ground.

Anons, I'm new to this drama and is always wondering who was/were the bully/ies in niji EN livers? I hope someone can answer with at least mediocre evidence. Thank you.

>>68731336
>just not from the ground as she was given free public and adversiment as her debut as a corpo should
Didn't Kurosanji make its livers pay for their debuts?

>>68730908
Just keep ignoring things that don't fit your narrative I see. Where is Zaion's or Yugo's big numbers, then? Keep name-calling; maybe you'll be right some day.

>>68729414
>>68728907
I mean it’s partly a privacy thing if they had personal social media that showed their face, etc but I kinda agree also about the reincarnation part.

Ennaschizo this anon here >>68731430 needs your assistance.

>>68731336
Nigga, please, it was taken out of their pay. And even then, the company got big because of other talents hard work not the souless corpo structure. If you want to name contributions, give it to them.

>>68726639
If she was treated badly she could have left the fact that mysta got out first speaks about her lack of character and problems yes yes niji sucks but she has a mental illness

>>68731667
Fairly certain it's more along the lines of a non-compete/anti-moonlighting clause in the contracts.

>>68731667
Just follow the talent lead; if they want to talk about it, then it's fine; if they don't, then don't; it's that simple.

I am the storm that is aproaaaaaching
Provoooooking

>>68732438
who cares? Doki made and will continue making more than Enna tenfold every month even if she has less subs

>>68731985
Nigga niji gave them fame only a gullible moron would think the company doesn't want to benefit, there are thousands of good streamers out there and they will never be famous, she wasn't going to get to these numbers without niji stop being silly like streamers are 5 years old and don't know how to read contract and that you are selling your soul to them.

>>68728237
>mfw
We should've dropped two bombs on Mist.

>>68732563
You're so stupid that you didn't understand that the anon says that doki almost hit enna, anyway, good defense attempt, you're never going to fuck her.

>I'll not be silenced anymore
>proceeds to not reveal the bullies or how she was bullied
Is her strategy drag(o)on the drama as long as possible?

>>68732754
kek

She's still in the grief and coping stage.

I think calling the fanbase Dragoons is absolutely stupid and kicking the bees nest for absolutely no reason. If she wants to move on and heal, she needs to actually, you know, move the fuck on.

>>68732438
Enna on attempt watch

>>68732939
Maybe she just likes the word?

>>68731430
So is this just a hoax made by the kurosanji?

>>68725999
Kek now this is pretty based

>>68732939
I think it's more like realizing
>Hey, I don't actually need to change anything
like what are they gonna do? Sue?

>>68732939
Maybe she doesn’t move from the fans she loved. My oshi was also a corpo vtuber before and she kept her oshi mark because it was precious to her.

>>68732939
>hurr durr move on
>reddit spacing
cope and kill yourself, you're not as smart as you think you are for holding that sentiment, nijifaggot

>>68725446
It’s as lame as rich musicians shitting on record labels, the reason why they are famous in the first place. She would be a 2view without the corpo.

>>68729414
Vtubers were supposed to be playing characters, so it made sense to ban them from talking about PLs. The thing is that nobody cares about the character.

nijisisters nijicoping and nijiseething

>>68732836
I think that was in reference to just the tweet it was in. She pretty clearly said during the first stream that she was going to make one statement, the one she was making, and then move on.

>>68733134
I think she just hates management and the bullies. Not her fanbase or any friends she made in Niji.

>>68732598
Ah yeah, the yearly contract that they can fucking change and destroy everything that you have built if you don't sign it, that one?

>>68733303
In the retards defense, that's basically every vtuber contract. Not many places will let you Patra it.

>>68733303
you mean the one that they can do all that and none of it is properly regulated by the governments they operate in? those?

>>68732598
Thanks to people like Mito and Toya, Chihiro, and Kazuha... not Riku and his lackeys.

>>68728787
>Dragoon

Would Niji still fire her if she had announced the attempt as clearly as possible on that day instead of waiting? Would things be worse for niji if they did?

>>68725446
She shouldve also kept the moniker 'Selen' as part of her nickname.

>spends the entire stream shitting on corpos
>shamelessly talks about her PL
>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
She's trying to filter the drama and holo fags on each stream 1 by 1. She's smart i can tell you that

>>68732939
Its just lipservice. As you said, if she actually wanted to move on, she would try to move on completely.

>>68725446
>She could take Selen
>She could take dragoon
>She could even redesign herself to be a dragon

This is why corpos should put more effort in being unique then being generic.

>>68733511
Most places don't fucking start privatizing their talent channels before announcing that they will terminate them either.

>tfw she gets a round yellow bird with a bangaa dragoon helmet as her mascot

>>68725446
>>68732939
>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
based
i think it shows she actually appreciates her old fans who bought her old merch

>>68732939
Birds evolved from dinosaurs. They're just evolving into birds. Also niji doesn't own the word dragoon so who cares, sister.

>>68733577
>A veriety of pigeon
NO WAI

>>68732939
All of the other names were genuinely terrible.

>>68725446
Utterly based, she built the fanbase not fucking Kurosanji.

Just rename it to Semen Titsuki.
Then every friend she makes will have to say that they like Semen.

>>68725446
once a grifter always a grifter. to steal her old fanbase name is so low brow and shitty.

>>68732754
This dude can't stop being cucked.

>>68728791
Why should she give up the things she worked her ass off for? Kurosanji doesn't own a fan name or an oshi mark and they deserve to be shit on.

>>68734526
Apparently her fans do, because she constantly collabs with males.

>>68728787
A dragoon is a real military unit. There are dragoons in many games and other media too. They can't trademark fucking Dragoons...

>>68734789
I don’t even know who’s behind this post. Can’t be NDF, given the glass houses. Maybe a sister?

I wonder if Niji will start putting in their contracts that they own fan names, pet names and that if you try to suicide while working under then you need to pay restitution.

>>68734885
You lost nijisister, give it up.

>>68734102
I'm not going to disagree with you about Kurosanji, I'm just saying saying your contract example is explicitly true of 99% of corpotubers. Hell, Patra didn't even leave with her rights, she bought them outright which is outside of the scope of the contract itself.

>>68734817
Dragoons are just mounted infantry. Effectively, all modern mechanized infantry and air-cav are dragoons.

>>68734563
Steal? The thing she made? How the fuck is that stealing you retard

>>68734257
Legally distinct dragoons (Archaeopteryx)

>>68734980
But it can’t be the NDF. Every single girl in Kurosanji is mandated to interact with men via collabs.

>>68734817
I mean, you say that, but Sky Technologies can apparently own the word "Sky", and has sued other companies for "infringing on their trademark". So it's unfortunately not out of the question, because IP law is a fucked up legal quagmire.

>>68734817
Tell that to Bethesda or James Cameron. Scrolls and Avatars

>>68727435
Yea... anyone thinking otherwise is just coping.

>>68725446
>Why don't you follow my retarded made up rules?
based if anything

>>68725538
Was going to jump on this, but found that she's from hong kong? There's a huge difference between mainlanders and HK.

>>68735475
Yes, she is from HK

>>68735475
>>68725538
>there's a huge difference between sparrows and robins

>>68729764
NICE COPY PASTED MESSAGE YOU KEK

>>68735415
Just like Henya would be a 3view in 2 months, right sister?

>>68725689
>>68726071
Why are you gloating about an obvious drama buff? The numbers have been dropping every stream

>>68735475
Not really. Look beyond the whole we want democracy thing and they are exactly the same.

>>68727435
40k yesterday, 30k today. I’ll be surprised if she stays above 20k next week

>>68735475
Holy projection. You are no different than the mainlanders, chink. Same goes for Doki, at least she embraces who she is.

>>68726685
Blonde bimbos are always good. Also a face that screams "correction".

>>68725446
>corpos
She was thinking about a specific corpo, anon. Singular, not plural. Pretty sure she has nothing against, say, VShojo. Stop grouping other corpos with yours to get people to attack Doki

>>68735783
all that exposure going to waste, baka

>>68725446
>calls her fanbase dragoons just like the old one
and thank god for that, because every last suggestion from chat was omega retarded.

>>68735762
Depending on how old she is, there is a massive cultural difference. All the grifters, scammers, and just general disrespect for civil society are a legacy of communist policy failures that HK was insulated from because of British rule.

>>68735008
are you retarded? thats like if Mori went back to her PL and called her fans deadbeats. Of course t hey dont legally own fan names but its still a dick move and makes her look like a cunt

>>68735756
Ever since Luxiem lost their Chink fujo / yumejo, 0 NijiEN member has gotten around 30k viewers (give or take few thousands) for their solo streams outside of debuts, graduations or special events, with or without drama buff.
It will indeed stabilize over time, but I'm pretty sure she will still beat her former 2k viewerships in Niji. She should land around HoloEN level (mid or lower)

>>68729293
Nah it benefits the talents just as much since they can run from their past yabs

>>68727435
Good, I want the dramaniggers (like you) out

>>68728237
I, for one, love being a Dragoon.

>>68728616
Parrot put me in the video

>>68727435
I think I see this exact post every time a vtuber reincarnates.

>>68737033
and its true every time. 2k ccv a few months from now would be a huge W for her

>>68728055
what happened here? did she send them a picture of a kid?

>>68737307
it's not that it's false, it's dishonest. no shit 90% of those viewers from debut + drama buff will drop off and she'll be left with at most a thousand or two above her old CCV. no one pretends otherwise, at least not in good faith.

>>68728055
This shit still makes me laugh so hard. Their reaction are so good, while Enna is completely unware.
Also love the one with Enna saying she is the queen of spades and Nina laughed her ass off.

>>68736269
Mori could totally do that if she wants to burn bridge with hololive

>>68737468
multiple kids. I think some were naked? she's a pedo and it freaked them all out, because they *weren't her kids* She just keeps folders of pics of children.

>>68728791
*sigh
sister, you've lost

>>68733577
>OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Is the EU gonna sue NIJI???? AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEE SISTERS WE LOST

>>68725585
ÞPBP

>>68732754
>Two Carnelian Signets weren't enough, Cecil.

>>68728237
Dragoons were originally a class of mounted infantry, who used horses for mobility, but dismounted to fight on foot

>B-B-B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE COMPANY'S FEELINGS?
The company can collectively kill itself.
>But what about-
Kill. Itself.

>>68727733
she's a big fan of mounted light infantry

>>68730916
The normie audience already thinks Hololive is like nijisanji thanks to Asmongold and critikal, I just want to believe Doki is just shitting on Niji and didn't choose her words wisely instead of just malicious and wants the normies to destroy Hololive.

>>68730033
smugger.

>>68730916
She clearly didn't think "all corpos = bad", anon. She was just thinking about Niji. Don't fall to sisters' trick of grouping corpos together to get people to shit on Doki

>>68740529
then post doki tits

>>68725446
enna you have to let this go its not healthy girl

>>68740196
she brings great honor to the protoss

>>68736269
>its still a dick move
the company bullied her into attempting suicide and then fired her over nothing
I'd say that's a little worse than using the same name for your fans

>>68736269
Selen gives no fucks and takes everything she was meant to have. Nijisanji Livers realize life can be better. Has a nice ring to it.

>>68725446
Finally I can insert myself without turning into a plushie

Fuck em
Glad to be a Dragoon again

>>68740140
You first Doki. Oh, wait...

>>68731456
They weren't as big as her to begin with, plus they didn't fake a suicide for pity views, stupid. that gets way more tourists than simply being fired. Plus, Selen gets all the Pomu graduation buff niji-haters, everyone is whipped into a niji-hating frenzy already. She strategically picked the perfect time to maximize views. Very shrewd.

>>68740940
Cope harder NDF Faggot

>>68740940
Nobody bullied her into anything. If you are that much of a thin-skinned coward that you'll kill yourself because your job wont let you do what you want to do, you probably would have found an excuse to do it anyway. Come on, fuck. Imagine if you kept running ideas by your boss at work and they kept turning you down, would you go jump off a fucking building? No. Normal people get a new job, only mentally ill halfwits try to kill themselves.

>>68741572
I'm sure you wish she had succeeded. Too bad for your organs that she’s still gracing the world with her laughter.

>>68742152
>gracing the world with her laughter
She's a braying, retarded mule. Her laugh is the worst part about her, if she'd stop cackling every 5 seconds she might be watchable

>>68728791
She's borderline, comrade. But look how she can't stand on her own 2 feet without using stuff she got famous for her in Niji. Putting the past behind me? Yeah right.

>>68740529
Huh, the only corpo I heard her shitting on was Disney, I must've missed the part in which she shat on Niggersanji

i like how the ndf shitters just conveniently ignore that Doki is acting like she is because she has enough material to proove all her claims are true and got the ok from her lawyer. keep seething tho

>>68730391
>esl
>hates america
Pottery, pure pottery. They always out themselves as well.

>>68742295
it sounds like 95% of the "work" she's "done" has been taken care of by this mysterious new manager that just showed up out of the blue and is doing everything for her..for free I guess? Since she was broke, allegedly. Funny how she found a god-tier manager who works for nothing right when she needed one.

>>68741237
>Not wanting to be a fat fuck marketable plushie

>>68740940
You really believe this petty ass bitch? If the livers believed her and it was management harassing her, where was the refusal to stream protest? How about Ike Eveland, one of her best friends continuing to stream and not even a hint of an acknowledgement toward what happened?

>>68742415
None of her managers are mysterious, and connection is trivial to track. Do your reps first, sister.

>>68742222
But enough about Enna.

>>68742295
You’re only upset because your den of snakes have revealed their hand. Cast a thousand admonishments upon those you’ve marooned, but it won’t recover your optics. Doubly so after Luca receives zero punishment over matters far more damaging than either Sayu or Doki ever did.

>>68742415
This manager doesn't know what he's in for. She's gonna need 2 managers to keep up with her bullshit.
Also, before anyone gets started on merch profits; she ain't getting a 100% cut unless she produces, designs, acquires the raw materials out of thin air, manufactures, promotes, manages the website, and ships them all herself.
ALL of that is stuff the Niji Livers don't have to worry about. Now all that logistical nightmare is on her and her managers shoulders, so she can't even devote 100% of her time to streaming.

Speaking of her manager.... did Niji livers need to pay their managers salaries? NOPE LMAO, that's on her shoulders too.

She probably wants a new updated model, that's gonna cost a bit too.

Oh dear, I hope she thought all of this through........... but when does she not make impulsive decisions?

>>68742549
He's not getting punished because he didn't do anything, it was that groomer bitch. And what does it matter if it took place years ago? Is it ongoing? Why would they hand out an arbitrary punishment for something that happened a long time ago and is not ongoing?

If you ever worked a job in your life, maybe you'd understand the difference between a "a coaching" and a "write up".

>>68742821
why do you think livers only got like 2% from merch and supers?

>>68725446
She has a diagnosis of being too based

>>68742549
Dookie is the only one who revealed her hand. All of the passive aggressive tweets about not getting merch, her TSB pout tantrum, and more all have new context now.

>>68742821
>She's gonna need 2 managers to keep up with her bullshit.
she already hired 3 people

>>68743109
Yeah, me and two nannies for our hockey team of children.

>>68742821
Retard.

>>68742821
>Also, before anyone gets started on merch profits; she ain't getting a 100% cut unless she produces, designs, acquires the raw materials out of thin air, manufactures, promotes, manages the website, and ships them all herself.

Damn, you are really stupid. Ever heard of Kson? She did exactly the same things Selen is doing after leaving Hololive, and is certainly managing to continue to put food on the table without any real difficulty.

And Doki has sold her own merch in the past as well, of course she knows what is involved in producing it. You really don't know anything about her at all, do you? Do you even watch streams, or are you just parroting something that somebody in a Discord told you?

Was she shitting on Hololive too or just Nijisanji?

>>68742960
>he did nothing
Yeah, he totally didn’t have her skinwalk him on a potentially untold number of occasions beyond the known. Didn’t additionally have a relationship with her, either.
>groomer
Only matters if you’re a yume who thinks he didn’t benefit from this. Unless management wants to go ahead and reveal the nature of how giving access to your mod (who you are dating) isn’t compromising to their NDAs versus the acre of supposed wrongs done by those they’ve terminated, he’s obviously being protected for monetary reasons.

I love all the tourists in this thread giving away that they haven't even seen the stream, because they're totally off about what corpos she was even shitting on

>>68743164
With line changes?

>>68743364
Neither, it was some other corpo, not Vtuber related. Just normal banter that ain't supposed to take seriously

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>>68735867
t. mainlanders who want to steal Hong Kong

>>68736269
>abubububu hububububu won't someone think of the corporation's feelings? what a bitch!

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>>68742507
>You really believe this petty ass bitch?
Yes. Otherwise why pull this shit now? Nijis have this entire grand theory about how she planned everything from before she even released the coffee MV but the giant hole in their case is that she has no fucking motive. Why does she want to live niji, and why did she choose to do it now?

>>68743269
Good counter argument, guess I made you upset

>>68743280
Answer me this geniunely. Does Kson have any mental illness, any problematic behavior?

Selling her own merch when she's a low 3 view is different compared to where is she now.
https://twitchtracker.com/dokibird/streams

>>68744136
>Does Kson have any mental illness
she's a woman, so yes.

>>68744136
she's in vshojo anon, it's a given.

>>68743909
What was Niji's motive to fire their best EN Female streamer? Too much money?

Honestly explain what evil Nijisanji's motive was to "harrass" and "bully" her, and then fire her, because I haven't heard that yet. Did they start hating money?

Must have been racism... oh wait, Petra, Enna, Maria, Victoria say hi

>>68734443
>dragoons were birds all along
POTTERY

>>68728237
> If they use the word on merch
> They must own it.
You are the dumbest person here. Do you think hololive could own the term ruffian?

>>68735313
>he thinks Nijisanji even remotely cares enough about fan names let alone the English fan names to trademark them
>he thinks Nijisanji is even remotely competent enough to trademark fan names
LOL
LMAO

>>68744333
>>Did they start hating money?
>The losses will be negligible

>>68728673
> She could be taken to court because she used a normal English word!
Everything you do could be contested in court if you're afraid of lawsuits without basis. Stop breathing to avoid a lawsuit! You do not get to call any other act stupid when you are too dumb to be human, easily the dumbest person here.

>>68744333
It's a black company run by petty faggots (which is why you, a fag who is petty, are defending it so desperately) who wanted to punish the squeaky wheel for demanding grease. It's not complicated, you're just stupid.

>>68728237
If official merch uses the word "ahoy!", does the company then own that word? According to your mouth breathing logic, it does. You do know that the word is far older than nijisanji, right?

>>68728673
Nobody would contest it in court, retard. Nobody else is as dumb as you.

>>68744333
Well, she lawyered up and threatened to go public when they were attempting to yugo her, so they could replace EN's management and clean house quietly. I imagine someone high enough up the chain got angry or scared.

She's going to get sued

>>68729189
The chance of her getting sued for it is zero. The risk only exists in your retarded mind. You do not know what will fly. You do not know if nijisanji owns it. You do not know if something is a stupid flex.

You do not know anything at all, you dumb motherfucker.

>>68745282
By who, Europe?

She should out the people who bullied her this is reddit tier shit

>>68729569
Only the stupid would believe this could possibly bog someone down in legal problems. You have to hope because you are retarded.

>>68727435
Still mogging most of niji

>>68727435
Please, someone chart the CCV graph, if they like posting graphs, lets post fucking graphs

>>68725446
What can one say which hasn't been said already?
Pretty based.

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>>68745282
Wrong. Kurosanji has zero basis to sue her for anything. They literally can't do it.

>>68727491
LMAO, What is this? Making fun of his handwriting? GOTTEM! Post your "manly" handwriting?

>>68745680
>”his” handwriting
Anon, I...

>>68745609
I won't lie I am a Robe Enjoyer for life. I'm honored you think I'm on Millie's level, that's nothing but a compliment to me.

>>68735313
> apparently own the word "Sky"
They can sue if they believe another company being named sky confuses their customers, but that doesn't mean they own the word sky, retard.

>>68745680
Luca was getting his secretary or whatever Raziel is to ghostwriter all his signatures and messages
Who made that image was a dumbass who doesn't know the value of context.

>>68745282
By whom?
Square-enix? Activision blizzard? Webster's?

>>68745774
Thanks for telling me, because you're right that image doesn't tell me anything. Is it implying that what he wrote on the wall is not the same on his card?

>>68726005
Kson doesn't, but people think that's the rule not the exception.

>>68728237
I can't believe these are the people I'm spending my time to anti against. I could do nothing and you would fuck yourselves over.

>>68725446
the normies are on this bro it's over for nijisanji lmaooo, selling how good she is and how bad nijisanji is

>>68742821
Mr Man managed XQC. Your retort?

>>68746006
He's implying that Nijisisters are a bunch of cucks. Cucked by his woman.

>>68746208
>XQC
I mean, not that I think that's actually relevant, but that could be a retort all on its own anon.

>>68746281
>manages the biggest streamer of 2020-2021
>can fire him whenever
>works for her not the other way around
I'm sure he knows what he is doing

>>68746347
So do I, it's just that if you're trying to get him not hated on XQC is like the worst defense to use and not bait more shitposting, is all I'm saying.

>>68745282
>the same company that gives 2% and is too cheap to give livers a second play button suddenly now has the time, money, and care to trademark fan names let alone sue others for using those names
anon you cannot be this retarded

>>68725446
She's too based for your smol brain

>>68746381
how are you not supposed to trust that the guy knows what he is doing when you have eyes to see how successful xqc
she already got like 200k on a single stream already she has more than enough capital to fund cool good new things

>>68746381
Anon is saying that if the manager can tard wrangle XQC he can tard wrangle anyone

>>68746196
If they can't think for themselves, they are perfect fans for her. I'd rather have 1000 dedicated fans show up to every stream, than 10k fairweather masses.

Speaking of which, if you go into lets say,
Gura's stream and 30k people are there, does it every bother you that she'll probably never read your individual chat? I'm not even trying to provoke you here, I just wanted to know. If you're happy just to give her support without being noticed, I respect that. Because in Niji, I've had almost every streamer read one of my comment out loud at some point, even Pomu, Vox, and yes, Selen.

>>68743908
Wait, this >>68739867 isn't normal?

>>68746621
Her manager used to be XQC's manager? I didn't realize that. Well, okay, she certainly has a chance. But there is no way he wasn't cheap.

The AVERAGE content creator manager salary is 98k in Canada according to a quick google search, so whatever he costs is gonna be upwards of that.

>>68746833
probably why she is releasing merch non stop.

>>68742987
2% for near zero effort. A background 2%. Not even agreeing it is actually 2%, but whatever the % is, it is free money trickling. You get that right?
Whatever Doki's final cut is going to be, you gotta factor in all the people's salaries who are doing it for her. And don't tell me her manager alone is handling it all.

I wouldn't be surprised if Doki tells her cut, just to start a new firestorm for Niji. We'll have to look out for that.

>>68747040
was Hololive merch cut ever leaked?

>>68725558
u fucking pedo

>>68747218
I don't think the cut was leaked but they released the revenue from merch and the vtubers' pay so you can probably extrapolate a gross approximation.

>>68725999
fucken lazy

>>68742987
Also, they don't get 2% from Supas. Its widely agreed they get (100-30)/2 = 35 % from supas.

30% being youtube's cut, and 50% of the remaining 70% going to Niji, so

30% - Youtube
35%- Anycolor
35% - The Vtuber

>>68728193
Keep on raping the multi-billion company for me anon, I'm sure that'll pay off

>>68747540
Keep on trusting this problematic, borderline vtuber, I hope she doesn't let you down.