/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68683887
Imagine if they all quit simultaneously

>>68683887
You know what, why not. I can entertain this rrat. Works with my mass graduations one.

If vdere could pull it off I don't see why they can't pull it off themselves and re enter the indie market.

>>68683887
elira needs to leave so I can truly enjoy watching her without bringing up males

>>68683887
>Someone is cooking.

>>68683887
Vshojo negotiations

>>68684038
Anon... as an indie she has even more liberties to get her male friends on stream

All I'm seeing is Finana is a cunt for not standing in solidarity and trying to save herself.

>Elira, Rosemi and Petra simultaneously leave
>Anycolor suddenly announces that Nina is back
>The name "Finana" is never mentioned again

>>68683887
>notPomu is making her own Diamond Dogs
KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO

>>68684154
She tried to book a flight too, but her card got declined.

>>68684154
>Finana is a selfish cunt
shocking truth!

>>68684154
Finana is a filthy NEET and she knows that without the company she is nothing.
Just look at her numbers

>>68684154
It's not her fault, the rest of Lazusydia gaslit her

>>68684154
Finana will quit for sure if Elira graduates. She is not strong enough to be alone.

might be unrelated, but kuro is also in jp and matara will be soon. surely it's just a coincidence though.

>>68684684
Kuro also unfollowed Doki and Matara never followed her, they're being called for testimony against Selen

>>68684684
> surely it's just a coincidence though.

>>68683887
Elira is the clique queen. It would just result in the same fate

>>68683887
If I were management, these three are not livers I'd want to collectively piss off. Petra and Rosemi may not be that close with each other, but they're both close to Elira, and if they're all talking with each other about the state of management, and their own possible futures in NijiEN I'd be shitting my pants at the possibility of NijiEN without Elira, Rosemi and Petra in the very near future. That would be almost the entirety of the foundations of NijiEN gone. It's a non-zero percent possibility, and that's fucking wild.

>>68684038
Anon.... half of elira's male coworkers are her friends pre-niji...

>>68683887
Mysta, Yugo and Nina are in Japan right now too.

>>68684848
>Hey Pomu, do you mind if I invite a couple of friends to our new agency?
>Yeah, sure, why not

>>68684111
>henya had to cut her stream yesterday short due to a "meeting"
What is backpack man cooking?

>>68685003
>people still shitting on them
I honestly think they did it in good faith wanting nothing more than success for them and the whole branch

>>68685024
a power move could be a buyout of nijien
does he have enough money for that?

>>68685176
I mean he's loaded but not THAT loaded...

>>68685242
easier to buy a couple of talents then

>>68684154
Pomu would never do anything with Finana and for good fucking reason

>>68685468
Why?

>>68685540
>pomudachi doesnt know that pomu had to bankroll finana during the infamous uki cuckening off collab because finana maxed out her creditcards on stupid shit
oh and she acted like a brat too the entire trip and ryugards sent pomu akasupas and shit to apologize for their retarded oshi
she sounded so fucking done with finana after that
pure 100% emotionally drained after that trip

>>68685695
oh and it was fucking expensive since finana refused to walk anywhere so pomu had the pleasure of paying for taxis during the trip too

>>68683887
Contract renewal is probably coming up for Lazulight and Obsydia and these girls are discussing with their good friend "not pomu" whether to re-sign or not.

>>68685540
Why did her hair turn gray?
Did she get stuck in a tentacle pit for 3 years?

>>68683887
It will be so funny if all that is left from lasuzydia is fucking finana as a 300ccv shitter
it would be so fitting for nijien and for the retarded fish

>>68685887
>re-sign
kek

>>68685887
Honestly, right now the smart thing would be to quit, ride on Doki's wave and go back to being indies

>>68685176
Even if he had the money, why would he waste it buying a failing company with terrible brand reputation instead of just swooping in to secure the talent that is leaving?

>>68685695
Pomu makes my cock erect

>>68683887
If Elira is involved, nothing good will come of it

>>68684154
>solidarity
>all but Pomu still in the company
>Elira is the queen bee of the clique; Enna is just the face
>0 Obysida unity
>Petra and Selen have always had tension, Enna says Petra lets people bully her on stream but that off stream she is a savage; all the times Petra "jokingly" wanted to not be in Obsydia to part of Lazulight or Ethyria
>rosemi is supposedly her friend, yet streamed thru all this bullshit and wasn't there for her the same way Mumei was; obviously got closer to the clique and stopped collabing/interacting with Selen as much
Solidarity lmao
They are cowards afraid of backlash for still working under a company that pushed an alleged friend and coworker to suicide and because out of everyone in the company you'd think they'd be the closest people to Selen; you might even have retards that unironically think Elira is her actual sister.

>>68686510
Just because they weren't close friends with Selen doesn't mean they're ok with the shit joke the branch turned into. Let's see how it turns out. All rrats are true until proven otherwise.

>>68686692
They are ok with it because they are still there, and sadly you didn't need Selen's suicide attempt to know this.

>>68683887
>all of first wave leaves
>leaving Finana
What the fuck…

>>68686858
Bitch deserves it.

>>68686858
as it should be

Midsemi Midlock

>>68683887

>>68687083
Not as Mid as Finana.

Hopefully Harada will give Rosemi's new life a boost in attention and the collab she'd never have gotten in kurosanji.

>>68683887
notnina notmystia and notmika is also in japan atm staying at giri’s

>>68687264
>hopefully rosemi gets saved from her own mediocrity
lmao she is sinking with this ship and once the ride ends she is becoming a twitch thot because the biggest takeaway from rosemi is not anything about her personality or taste in anime/games, but how attractive her coworkers say she is

>>68684154
Unlike the other Lazusydia members, Finana has no talent and would not survive without the company.

>>68687656
Lol this is only true for Selen and Pomu.

vshojo is becoming outer heaven

>>68687753
Holy cope.

>>68687837
Who, yours?
I agree.

>>68687264
Y'know Zen has been spamming Tekken recently aswell... Was kinda hoping for a collab before shit went to shit

>>68687753
>>68687886
Ah, just realized what I am saying isn't clear.
>no talent and would not survive without the company.
Pomu and Selen are the only ones exempt from this. The rest absolutely need kurosanji more than it needs them.

>>68687900
bro zen is dogshit at tekken all hes fighting are bots and just mashes
rosemi would open up his ass and obliterate it 0-10 matchup

>>68687900
It probably could still happen, but after all the shit that went down in NijiEN this past week, it is perfectly reasonable for Rosemi to want to take a break from it all.

>>68687955
Damn thought I was going to get into a fight on the internet today

The glaring problem is that the girls already see the dead end in Nijisanji. Some of them may feel they won't grow any larger, or don't have anything to lose changing to Indie because NIJIEN TAKES AN UNHOLY CUT of the profits.

>>68688424
Management outright lost them sponsorships and subscribers with their stunt. It's worse than a simple dead end, it's become actively detrimental to be part of NijiEN.

They’re refilming Obsydia 3D and Elira is there for moral support or a duet

>>68688737
It would be funny if they just had Elira redub all of Selen's lines and used her model instead of Selen's, without actually recording new movements for it.

>>68683887
>Someone is cooking.
hopefully not Rosemi

>>68684154
Finana is nothing without nijisanji. She is literally an Ogro de horribilidad that only the USA can produce.

>>68687955
Isn't Elira a decent singer in her own right? She's also clearly capable of networking if she managed to find herself at the center of a clique.
Petra too, now that I think about it.
Also while I agree Selen can survive without the company I'm not entirely sure what her talent is.
Rosemi I'm kind of torn on, she had that "it" factor of being really cute and helpless but it faded over time.

>>68689666
>I'm not entirely sure what her talent is
Same as a lot of Twitch streamers. Good at maximizing the algorithm and appeals to younger kids humor

>>68689666
I would't really call Elira being friends with two virgins, one a vindictive cunt and the other a dumb autist, and having a simp as "networking." She always talks about her not being nearly as social in IRL interactions.
You have more of a case with Petra, but really the best she can hope for is being in Nijisanji JP proper, because as an indie she'd probably be forced to choose between a EN or JP audience as all she does is mostly zatsudans.
Selen and Pomu are driven and like organizing projects - something no one else in NijiEN shares a passion for on the same level as them. That's why management fucked them over so much, because they tried to stuff beyond streaming.
Rosemi is a mediocre talent propped by delusional fans. Do her and Vivi share fans /here/? Both fanbases seem equally delusional about how these two unoffensive girls are.
>>68688737
Lmao, Nijisanji really speedrunning their demise. Realistically tho, I think they will modify contracts to cancel 3D and anything that isn't streaming, sponsored streams and merch for EN, since clearly this is where a lot of issues with management arose.

What if Nijisanji is trying to convince all the girls to play ball and deny a history of management discrimination for a better deal?

>>68690448
0. Nijisanji will never, EVER admit that they fucked up. They already denied the claims of mismanagement and bullying, and they are never going to address them again. Not even ask the talents to talk about them to exonerate them. It didn't happen. End of the story.

So that official tweet was another lie and the girls are actually looking at their options for escape.

>>68683887
I would assume anyone that's gone radio silent is trying to "work with" Anycolor to get out of their contracts.

Wait, why is Rosemi in Japan? Are they recording the Obsydia 3D streams? Did the ask Elira for help to replace Selen's part or something?

>>68690317
>Rosemi is a mediocre talent propped by delusional fans
That's most corporate vtubers, Rosemi is no better or worse than the majority. Strip away the corporate affiliations and numbers and look purely on what they do or bring to the table.

>>68685695
>finana maxed out her creditcards
Post your receipts

Realistically, can NijiEN survive if Elira, Petra and Rosemi graduate?

>>68686692
Are you talking about the same obsydia girls that didn't pay shit to Selen for the Obsydia World?
https://youtu.be/Y9SCKuMJtmM?t=94

>>68690979
just go type "pomu finana credit card" into the archive
>b-but I need a clip
ogey find it yourself cuckguard

If they're in Japan they can just consult their JP senpais about this.

>Aster just did a stream practicing for the tournament
>Petra and Elira ghosted management and refused doing the stream
*sigh*

>>68691118
>all the founding members gone
No

>>68691118
Relaistically, Pomu leaving was all the indication you needed that NijiEN was dead.
>>68690892
To the insane degree rosefags prop up Rosemi, being willing to shit on talents of the same company? Idk. I get your point and I do agree, corpo chuubing is the golden ticket but some vtubers really do grow as people and entertainers. And few in NijiEN have, Rosemi included.

>>68691118
If it became male only streamers, everyone will assume they are all sex pests whenever collabs get mentioned + ratio defbuff against unicorns audience.

>>68690979
stop being a newfag

>>68691245
Good one. You actually made me look it up.
Hope you feel proud

>>68690979
>>68691245
>>68691473
>>68691604
>yfw no receipts

>>68684910
>I'd be shitting my pants at the possibility of NijiEN without Elira, Rosemi and Petra
Really?

>>68691279
Which JP liver would be best to consult with?

>>68686858
Finana doesn't have long either

>>68685954
Stained from spending time in the jar.

>>68686510
Selen isn't anyone's friend in Nijisanji, she views them all as competition.

>>68692077
I am sure she did intern-kun

>>68692077
This
Management will be exonerated soon after it becomes apparent that Selen was a cold bitch who was actively trying to ruin everything for everyone in the EN branch.

The radio silence is the weirdest part about this. I'm sure that one or two livers are already making plans to get out of the company ASAP, but I thought they would all play ball while they get everything ready for their indie redebuts.

>>68692077
try harder sister

>>68692236
She said it herself, but as always management is from another dimension and nuked all her videos.

>>68686046
>

>>68687225
Finana isnt mid
She absolute bottom of the barrel
Her career would be tagged as ryona

I can't imagine Finana surviving without Nijisanji if she doesn't become a literal twitch whore.

>>68692586
>twitch
fansly or onlyfans

>>68692350
If she had a deep friend group in Niji EN she wouldn't have withdrawn from the Discord. Nina talked to Selen about not being present there during her graduation stream.

>>68685107
Explain all the other nepo hires than

>>68691420
>To the insane degree rosefags prop up Rosemi, being willing to shit on talents of the same company? Idk.
Admittedly I don't pay attention to fanbases if I can help it so I'm quite oblivious to this.
>some vtubers really do grow as people and entertainers. And few in NijiEN have, Rosemi included.
I already admit Rosemi has actually regressed as an entertainer since her debut. However, I think very few vtubers actually grow as entertainers. They may find their niche and dig their heels in, but I don't think you really see tangible improvement. Being stagnant or even regressing due to behind-the-scenes work eating up their time and energy is far more likely.

>>68692282
If I found out that the management of the company I work for had pushed my friend of three years to attempted suicide and then tried to drag her name through to mud to save face I sure as hell wouldn't try to play ball with them.

>>68693013
Selen doesn't have any friends in Nijisanji.

>>68693013
none of them are friends with selen, colleagues at best

>>68693013
What? you mean that you wouldn't just post a few vague tweets about how sad you are and then go right back to streaming and keep earning money for the black company?

>>68693013
I've asked this before, but the fear everyone that wants out in NijiEN has right now is getting blacklisted. But at this point, with how shit NijiEN's reputation is, would anyone really take their word for it? Plus, this blacklisted thing is only for JP companies, no? Let's be real, no current NijiEN female talent is making it to Hololive. Maybe some guys could go to Homostars, but they could just as easily stay indie, or do something else.
Them taking a break but not outright leaving is what I consider to be "play ball."
If the girls wanted out, I am sure some EN corpo would take them. If they're banking on time making people forget, idk, I think that's hubris; to me, the ones that stay until they can leave without their name tarnished by NijiEN already tarnish their goodwill among fans. Talk about bring stuck between a rock and a hard place. I do not envy any NijiEN talent, truly.

>>68693013
Even if they don’t really give a shit about Selen, I think the company publicly saying that the top girl is worthless to them stings more.
>If they think the top girl is worthless, what does that make me?

>Nina fucking hated Selen (see Nina's graduation stream)
>She posthumously disapproved of her appearance in LCoC leading to perms issues
>She never followed or interacted with Doki on Twitter
>She persuaded Kuro to unfollow her on BOTH ACCOUNTS

It's amazing how people are willing to over look just what a snake Nina actually is

>>68693090
>>68693121
She had Pomu. Rosefags swore Rosemi is her friend. Rosemi told Selen she loved her and gave her a fucking speech about how special it is for her to say something like that and that she doesn't say it lightly yada yada

>>68693013
Imagine how Vivi feels, seeing all of that done to your oshi with your own eyes...

>>68693479
It's the other way around, Selen is the snake.

>>68693479
Yeah of course Nina is a mean girl, she got bullied by Ethyria but then joined their gang and everything was water under the bridge
that screams bully behaviour

>>68693537
Vivi is a fucking greek tragedy, she made it in only to see her efforts and loved ones be withered away while unable to help them
Wish that girl the best

>>68693479
Pomu being friends with Nina is literally the only thing that makes me think she could be a good person.

>>68693460
the problem, anon, is that most of the en dont have the same problems as selen. petra, elira, rosemi, finana just to mention the first gen never had the same problem
>but petra pl screenshot
no real proof that is even real, others following her account didnt find the tweet and the anon didnt even sreenshot other tweets along htat one. but lets assume its real, it wouldnt be about her own problems but her being useless to others, which anons assume its about selen but its about her own worth

>>68693479
Why is Nina's graduation being brought up?
I doubt Pomu would be good friends with two people that hate each other. That's awkward and uncomfortable as hell.

There are people who unironically worship the company when the talents themselves have TOLD YOU of their problems in order to get things approved or timely organized.

>>68693602
The thumbnail looked like a big ass.

>>68693479
Vshojo made a mistake hiring her and if they get Kyo too it's actually over.

>>68693700
Only one person in the company mentioned that there is a problem which clearly points to that one person being the problem instead of the company.

>>68693660
It's very easy to be friends with people who hate each other. When they try to use you, you put both their bitch asses in place. You are actually the top dog in that dynamic.

>>68692738
It's almost as if she was being bullied or something.

>>68693479
honestly? i believe it. i'd rather imagine nina as a stone cold fox than an autistic hag.

>>68693700
This was happening all the time in HoloEN too back during Omega days. Kiara or Mori vented on streams so many times.

But while they got a bit better NijiEN keeps getting worse.

>>68693787
I don't think Pomu was ever the problem, I could show you... O WAIT. The VOD was privated. Not like there are a thousand other examples of Niji talents having trouble throughout any given year.

>>68693479
>Nina fucking hated Selen (see Nina's graduation stream)
Not true, Nina was just trying to make conversation and rizz up Selen based on something Selen herself made up.
>She posthumously disapproved of her appearance in LCoC leading to perms issues
True, she did that, to make Selen graduate it, all part of her plan.
>She never followed or interacted with Doki on Twitter
Yes but she talked with her behind the scenes.
>She persuaded Kuro to unfollow her on BOTH ACCOUNTS
Yep, just like she won't let anyone follow NotPomu, because they're both joining VShojo.

>>68693700
>Yugo is forced to graduate
>Zaion gets assassinated
>Mysta and Nina jump ships immediately
>Pomu Fucking Rainpuff graduates
>Kyo nopes the fuck out when he smells the blood in the air
>Selen almost kills herself and Nijisanji fires her ass because of it
>Luca breaks his NDA multiple times over the years and nothing happens to him
And even so, the sisters still worship the company.

>>68688424
Nevermind that the company put all their lives in danger on a whim, after driving one of them to suicide.

Citing that, it'd be pretty easy to break contract with no penalties.

>>68684038
Bro you know she scaled BACK since joining, right?

>>68692399
I'm a woman and I unironically believe in this. Being raised by trad parents actually made sure my life wouldn't become a dumpster fire in the 20s

>>68693853
Gura we giving management a ton of praise yesterday in her members only and talked about how management has improved a ton (since omega got fired).

>>68694173

>Come to Japan

>>68694284
Mumei seems pretty happy with them too.

>>68685003
You know Pomu played with Millie before Niji, right?

>>68694385
Anon, everyone from 2017-2019 interacted and played together at least once, western Vtubing crowd was small enough. Even fucking Finana engaged with Doki and Elira before.

>>68694465
Finana never interacted with Elira before Niji.

>>68691315
Why is he the only one that didn't get the memo

>>68691118
NijiEN's days were already counted but Pomu leaving only accelerated their slow death. You don't even need for those three to leave; one more Lazusydia member graduating/getting the boot should be enough to trigger the final wave of mass graduations before the branch ultimately implodes for good.

>>68693996
Kyo should be renamed Kys for being a retard

>>68683887
All the pseudo-idol/cgdct-ish girls from NijiEN forming their own new group actually sounds like a pretty good idea. The time won't ever be better than now for it either.
They need to not repeat the mistakes of NijiEN if they're going to do it, though. NO GODDAMN MALES, DUMMIES, THIS ISN'T HARD

>>68691118
NijiEN is already a rotting corpse, if they happened it’d just cause a total collapse. I think Anycolor will just merge them with the main branch and then focus on individual members.

>>68684154
Finana's too retarded to understand what to do in a situation like this. Her friends are MIA and NijiEN is her only income. She's probably just as upset as everyone else which is why she hasn't streamed but only made a couple appearances like Vanta's Birthday or Kyo's last big collab.

>>68694920
This would actually save them. Won't do it tho because they don't believe in cgdct and excluding males

>>68694920
Yet doing your reps you'd know this could never be possible. We gotta learn from Rushia's retardation going forward.

>>68694920
They would never do that because they'll bring in Luca too no matter what.

>>68691344
>all
There'd still be a Lazulight around anon.

>>68683887
Imagine a NijiEN where Finana is the only remaining ultimate senpai.

>>68695645
>Finana is literally the only NijiEN remaining liver
>She is still a low 3view streamer

>>68683887
They're starting a new four person unit that will operate as a sister company under Vshojo.
All of their new designs are Liz recolors.

>>68694920
Why do you let cock live rent free in your head

>>68695917
Honestly I personally don't care, I wouldn't watch either way (nothing against them, I just have a full schedule and my vtuber time is taken).
It's just plainly good advice. you know it, I know it. They can take it or leave it.

>>68693609
She was also friends with Luca.

>>68695966
Homos are literally not a problem. If your oshi can interact normally with a male for the purpose of entertaining then that's cool. If she's a whore who wants to be flirted by males then it's better that it's in the open
Either way vtuber relationships haven't been confirmes between people of the opposite sex in the same company. Fancucks got cuckes by an alien who isnt a vtuber. The vshojo girls all have boyfriends who arent vtubers, only exception is Batel from Holo but even then his gf isn't in holo either
Again, there's, so far, a 0% chance of really getting cucked by a male in the same company as your oshi

>>68696159
That one doesn't count

>>68696159
>luca
*mizuchi

>>68696159
She fell in love with a dude that turned out to be a christmas cake, it is just like my yuri manga

>>68696326
So timeline is:
Kyo graduation
Luca termination
Aster stealth suspension into termination
Scarle graduation
Rosemi/Petra graduation

>>68696159
Yeah, but because she tought mizuchi was him.

I love Pomu, but she has terrible taste in friends. I'd give to her that she at least kept her distance with Enna and Kyo.

>>68696322
It's not about getting cucked, stop thinking about cucking. It's about content choices.
Men are watching vtubers for cute female "company". Having other men on the stream fucks up the entire illusion. And yes, entertainment is an illusion, all entertainment, it's just a fun fantasy. When you play COD the fantasy is that you're a badass soldier, when you watch vtubers the fantasy is a cute girl talking to you about Palworld for 4 hours. Neither will ever happen in real life for most people, and that's fine.
But they key aspect is the male presence in the stream being (you).
The fans of the girl don't want this cross-gender shit, they TOLERATE it. The person benefitting is the dude, it's parasitism.

>>68696496
He is not even locked out from his twitter account, nothing is going to happen to Luca

>>68696496
>Luca termination
GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL MY BABY BOY WILL NEVER BE TERMINATED BECAUSE HE'S MANAGEMENT'S FAVORITE

>>68696653
lol
Yeah no big deal, just gave access to his shit to a stranger

>>68696569
NTA but lets put it this way, it would be like going to a hostess club and watch the hostess chat up one of her guyfriends. who the fuck would like that

>>68696496
>Luca termination
They aren't going to terminate anyone else, specially not Luca. If they admit that he broke the NDA, then the next questions would be
>Wait, did Aster bully the new girls?
>Is the Zaion screenshot real too? Did they really ghosted her?
>How many knew about Aster bullying the talents?

>>68696712
nigga speak correctly

>>68696785
So you're saying Luca is invincible right now.

>>68683887
they're having sloppy depression sex right now between eating junk food and figuring out what to do

>>68696897
he has the power of crashing stonks on his side lol
not indefinitely though

>>68696785
It is a bit weird, its like Nijisanji HQ sent half competent people to NijiEN after the sacking of Selen so they are sacrificing principles in favour of not torching their entire branch

>>68696653
I unironically believe management contains at least one actual Luca gachikoi/fan and I've believed it long before this incident. He'll be insulated from anything until the entire branch is gone.

>>68685767
When Finana joined the antarctica stream, she sounded like such a princess during it all, asking questions such as if it was some luxury experience etc.

>>68696738
You’re not wrong, but you can’t talk about this shit outside of /here/ because normalfags refuse to accept that the vast majority of vtubers (of either gender) are essentially hostesses/hosts/geishas/whatever.

>>68696983
>competent
>make a decision to force that Aster/scarle collab
Lmao

>>68691915
Moruru

>>68696796
I did.
Parse correctly.

>>68696496
Luca is Luxiem, management's golden goose, nothing is gonna happen to him. Meanwhile if one of the non clique girls did something similar they'd have been immediately suspended an then terminated.

>>68696738
>>68697084
I don't know what you clowns are smoking but I'm just here to see a comedy show

>>68697218
Unhinged and chaotic interactions being your favorite, I assume

>>68697096
I said half competent for a reason

>>68691118
>Elira
Clique queen and merch fav. Niji give her all the benefits and nobody has more sponsorships/collaborations than her. Even the males. I can only see her leaving due to a better monetary backer coming in for her (Myth or Night Media). If she was to leave, they'd transfer her perks to whoever they deem next in line. What would harm EN is if information about her clique is connected to her in the graduation report (which only helps Doki) and the sheer amount of art she gets.
>Petra
Atypical Asian parents pressuring her to get a husband and a real job, fled to Japan to "study" with it liking being corporate work on behalf of Niji. Out of everyone listed here, she is the most likely to transition to an industry job in Asia. Streaming wise? She is forgettable. Would continue as normal.
>Rosemi
Her family already want her to move back home and has connections in the indie space as is. Harsh reality is she isn't as big as this board likes to think. She like Selen would see a bigger boost without the corporate backing considering her tastes. What would suffer here on /vt/ is the /nijiEN/ general that has byfar the most vocal Rosemi fans.

You really want to kill NijiEN? It's Vox and Enna you need to remove.

>>68696785
>Firing Luca right now would be a terrible bad idea
So you are saying he is getting terminated this monday right

>>68696569
>Men are watching vtubers for cute female "company".
Idk man they are playing anime girls and there's males in anime too. If a chuba wants to be females only or mix gender thats up to her, but people bitching and crying over it in the catalog for months is annoying as fuck and I dont understand why every vtuber discussions goes back to cocks for people like you. Just leave the kroniis and moris of the vtuber world alone do their own thing. And if their numbers tank who cares. Just stop pissing on every discussion and the catalog

>>68694465
the only thing Finana did was a amongus collab that her and doki happened to be part of(haruka did alot of those)
Millie played L4D2 with Pomu, Elira and Henya pre-niji, they did the same thing when Pikamee graduated

>>68697680
kek

>>68697724
Why bring up Kronii or Mori, either of whom have had men on their streams for nearly a year?

>>68697618
Hasn't Vox fallen off in views lately?

>>68697773
Because I dont keep track of who collabs with men anon. I dont think about cock

>>68687753
Selen made so many connections and was very honest with everybody. Wore her personality on her sleeve. No amount of slander from the company could touch her because of that. Pomu doesn't have as many connections but she was similar to Selen in that she was very open and honest and everyone knows who she is. I honestly think that only the culmination of this drama and the fact that everyone believed Doki instead of the company with all of the connections that she has is how she was able to get such a big indie rewelcoming. I think if Pomu goes indie, she would probably keep her viewer base, but maybe not exceed what it was before, which would be a huge win for her in terms of financials.

>>68683912
If they all signed up together somewhere else, or on their own, that'd be fucking awesome.

>>68684259
HAHAHAHA HER GACHA HABITS ARE FINALLY COMING TO ROOST!

>>68697848
>Hasn't Vox fallen off in views lately?
If viewership determined everything anon, this board would constantly be about ShyLily and Vshojo, not HoloLive. Vox and Enna are still big merch movers, constantly sell out for convention appearances and international sponsors (who Niji depend upon the most, not western) love to use them often. Much like the Pokémon company not needing the games, Nijisanji doesn't outright need the live numbers. It's the external factors that maintain profits.

>>68698084
>Selen spent her money on projects
>Finana just threw her away down the gacha sink

>>68698164
>viewership determined everything anon, this board would constantly be about ShyLily and Vshojo, not HoloLive
Shylily and Vshojo don't beat Hololive's viewership, FYI. Let alone HoloJP or Gura (either of which completely eradicate them) but just normal holoEN. Shylily averages like 7k, Ironmouse 8k. Not bad, but definitely not beating the upper crust of HoloEN.
If you're going to numberfag, let's at least be real about it

>>68683887
They're all auditioning for Vspo En, trying to create a new home and a new start where they are the daisenpais.

>>68691123
Selena's the type of person to say "don't worry about it it's on me". For Selen's last concert that she had she bought and paid for a Rosemi model matching her and Pomu's out of her own pocket.

>>68692249
Like after every single one of her investments into projects that would lift up the entirety of Nijisanji to the point where she made $0 last year. Right.

>>68698723
Nijisanji isn't known for their well-crafted business decisions, after all

>>68693121
Even as a colleague it's a dark thing to behold. That kind of character assassination when she's been there so long and organized different events is bleak.

>>68693853
The thing about Hololive is that they actually try to fix their mistakes. Mori stopped complaining when she was capable of being her PL personality at the same time as well as getting the universal records deal. Kiara still likely has complaints but they have dealt with one of them recently by limiting solo concerts to free up studio time to non JP talents. I also remember her pretty recently being shocked by the numbers when streaming at us prime time so she might realize that Europe is the problem for having too many languages to support a large streamer in their time zone.

>>68698397
Petra in VSPO is hilarious

>>68699733
Those killshot montages don't edit themselves.

>>68696322
Nyanners groomed herself a boyfriend while in Vshoujo. He is entertaining to be fair.

>>68683887
Rrat: all 4 of them are currently in the hololive offices, offering to defect in exchange for asylum from the Niji assassins. Yagoo is considering their request and told them they need to stay silent. In June a new EN gen will drop of all of NijiEN's top players.

>>68699733
I'll never forget the Petra stream that mindbroke some /nijiEN/ anons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN_8SqJEncw

>>68699796
>He is entertaining to be fair.
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2054336997?t=00h05m54s
He is pretty cool

>>68683887
also don't forget they literally postponed(cancelled) the mario kart

>>68700157
Has any postponed/delayed event in Nijen ever actually been rescheduled instead of outright cancelled?

>>68698026
Just need to figure out which is the Benoit

>>68697145
>>68696785
>>68696674
They will terminate the sexpest. The more people make a fuss about what he did, which is literally break NDA and actually endanger the brand or whatever, the quicker he will be gone.
So again,
Kyo graduates
Luca is terminated without a stealth suspension
Aster is stealth suspended and graduates
Scarle graduates because of the drama and a lot of *sighs* directed at her
And by maybe July, either Rosemi or Petra jumps ship, my guess being Petora as she finally lives in Japan and actually has an education beyond an associate's/bachelor's

>>68699733
She got Champion without getting any kills or dealing any damage, and it was her first time ever playing Apex. The Jackie Chan of pro gaming.

>>68700236
only in Nijisanji JP

>>68699832
I want to believe

>>68695208
Are any of the ones who left still in contact with Luca? Is Pomu?

>>68696674
>that chibi model wouldn't have been possible without Selen, because she paid for all the unofficial 3D stuff while waiting 4 years for Nijisanji to do so

>>68699832
lol
also the irony that out of al these hoes finana of all people was the closest to getting in HoloEN

>>68684287
all she has to do to pull numbers is lewd ASMR but the feesh is retarded

>>68700236
I mean, I think the only event "postponed" prior to this was the AR Live
and the reason AR Live is the only cancelled event, is because nijisanji EN has not done another event since the "Final Answer?!" Gameshow on Feb 14, 2022 (of course not counting debuts as events)

>>68700824
>also the irony that out of al these hoes finana of all people was the closest to getting in HoloEN
I seriously think she was lying about this.

>>68700922
There's literally no such thing as being "close" in a job interview. You either make it or you don't.

>>68700413
>Luca is terminated without a stealth suspension
not way they public suspend Luca before terminating him
remember that every termination had a suspension, Public for Zaion, stealth for Yugo and Selen

>>68700824
just because she openly said that, doesn't mean others didn't as "close" as her
or you really think holo scouts considered Finana more than Pomu and Elira?

>>68701005
This is cope. Getting call backs is certainly more than applying and just getting a thank-you email.
>>68701105
I do think so, because they haven't talked about it. Not that it means much either way since they all ended up in the same shithole. I just find it funny you think any of them would make it to Hololive, and that the one people put down of the walled garden days, is, AFAWK, the one to almost get there.

>>68699764
>>68700432
Dont worry, most vspo haven't touch FPS in months. Some just play street fighter, lol or even genshin kek.

>>68701005
Yes there is, basement dweller. There's multiple interviews and if you pass the first one, you are literally "closer" to it.

>>68684259
And (You) believed her

>>68696569
I'm a man and I'm watching vtubers because I like watching anime people being silly. Not everyone is watching vtubers for the same reason you are and there are plenty of both anti-male and pro-male vtubers that appeal to men and women. Nijien ended up with more cross-over with the twitch audience that doesn't care about male collabs than the Holo audience that does, and anyone leaving there would have content in line with the former, especially Elira. They'll be plenty successful, just like how Dokibird will continue to be successful even when she's playing with RPR and other men in the future.

>>68701105
>or you really think holo scouts considered Finana more than Pomu and Elira?
This is how you know Finana did not make it far in auditions.
Pomu was rejected on the grounds that she didn't have enough experience for HoloEN.
When Finana auditioned for NijiEN, she only had three or four collabs under her belt as her experience. She had no solo streams and didn't even debut as a vtuber yet. And all of that was after HoloEN already came out.
There's no way she was ever considered for HoloEN, and her resume was thrown out when they first saw it.

>>68696549
Pomu hangs out with Enna and Millie more than she did with Finana

>>68684684
kuro is fucking shoto in japan

>>68701710
Nope, different interviewers. What Pomu said doesn't invalidate what Finana said.
Maybe both could have made it if they persisted, like many Holo talents.

>>68701823
Enna? no. Pomu and Enna are incredibly awkward together

>>68702218
>Pomu and Enna are incredibly awkward together
They had a pretty good zatsudan together. Then again, it was mostly Pomu reacting to Enna being a crazy bitch.

>>68702323
Anytime Enna has mentioned that stream she says it was so awkward.

>>68700922
They could have thought there was enough to mold into something decent, with the right guidance.

>>68702218
Dont think they coulda had the kino steam review stream if they were that awkward round each other

>>68685695
>he acted like a brat too the entire trip and ryugards sent pomu akasupas and shit to apologize for their retarded oshi
I had to look this up, and to my surprise you are not making shit up

Imagine having to have your fans apologize on your behalf for poor behavior

what was rosemi reward for 500k? did niji take it away

>>68700413
Unless management is skinwalking Luca on twitter, they would never, ever terminate him. We know they play favorites, other talents get way harsher treatments despite only doing a fraction of what he did. And they didn't even leak compromising information for nearly 2 years either.

>>68703282
All expense paid dinner with Riku on his yacht. After Rosemi's subscriber count fell back down to 500k, the Nijisanji Task Force reached down her throat and pulled back out all the food she ate.

>>68703004
>That first guy
https://twitter.com/Chris_Flandre/status/1492980216297361408
https://twitter.com/chris_flandre/status/1542258019282653185
https://twitter.com/Chris_Flandre/status/1473805106063847446
What kind of parasocial levels is this shit? No wonder Finana didn't wanted them

>>68703525
>he has retweeted FWMC garage kit
lmao
advent really stole the males from niji

>>68696496
bleh.. all this gay noise when all i care about is rosemi happenings. guess I can wait.

>>68703605
>FWMC
Fuwawa did, not Mococo.

>>68703690
>rosemi happenings
i think you'll die of old age waiting, then

anons dont know petra. if she ever graduates, shes not going back to another agency or even indie. she only ever streamed as cierra and in nijien. she most likely would just be back as a singer, do some covers here and there and work in her job after finishing university. petra graduation with o without the drama is coming one timr or another because this always has been a part time job for her

>>68685003
I don't even have a stake in all of the drama going on and still hate their faces every time I see them. I don't know what it is about them.

>>68703347
Why would management favor an australian flip? What's the logic behind this?

>>68701823
Pomu made Enna shut the fuck up for 10 minutes during a collab and since then Enna has been acting nicely towards Pomu. Enna is a paper tiger.

>>68703690
>luca's cocksleeve
Reimu saying that Rosemi and Luca were shopping for underwear together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py00rvy7Kqc&t=4958s

>>68701457
VSPO just stands for Virtual eSports PrOject, as long as the game has some esports scene they probably don't care. FPS is just what's popular in Japan. So SF6 or LoL are probably fine as your main game of choice.

>>68704442
I think its because he made a shitton of money for management, enough to convince them to look the other way.
It's also because Nijisanji is not a serious company. Even though Cover is flawed, a more serious company like them they would take those kinds of situations seriously. Especially if a renegade mod were to come forth with nearly 2 years worth of receipts proving that they were responsible for doing half of what people loved about their character, and ousted one of their talents as a harasser.

>>68704750
it's really hard to imagine a worse response to the aster-scarle situation than forcing an impromptu collab where they repeat how they're best friends over and over but that's what they went with

>>68705028
It would make sense if they were operating on some vague "innocent until proven guilty" assumption, but Nijisanji had access to their accounts so they could have easily fact checked it. And Scarle and Aster seem to be mostly solo streamers anyways, so they could have easily just laid low and did their own thing, and no one would really be any wiser.

>>68705636
They are probably on their own. They are scared and they can't stop reading /vt/. They saw the screenshots, panicked and tried to do something to control the narrative.

>>68704442
Who fucking knows? Money is only part of it (almost all of it by the same "group" of women), but even before that they always played favorites with him. If what the mod said is true and he really was sucking up to management and yes-manning them on every decision despite his own unit being against it, it makes a lot more sense.

>>68683887

>>68705920
Aia cancelled a stream that was about to go live, it wouldn't make sense unless management called a meeting and that cringe as fuck collab was the end result

>>68706633
Management being /here/ and reacting to everything we do would be funny as fuck.

>>68689666
>Not sure what [Selen's] talent is
She's a non-hag, more autistic EN Botan if you think about it

>>68707213
>She's a non-hag, more autistic EN Botan if you think about it

>>68684237
WE ARE DIAMOND DOGS

>>68707414
without the skills of Botan, who was former pro R6S i heard.

>>68683887
It's very simple:
>Elira, Petra, Rosemi and Nina met Kiara in Japan last year
>they exchanged info about their workplaces and the Niji side realized that the grass is indeed greener on the other side
>Nina left in the summer, Pomu who is also close to Kiara left last month
>now that things irreversibly changed, the remaining three remembered how things could be vastly different and now they're contemplating graduation if they didn't decide to do it already

>>68703690
If you were a real bud you would know that bitch has updating her fans on the bottom of her list of priorities. If you want to do her a favor drop a dono on streamlabs like some other buds have, it helps pay for her ubers.

>>68707945
To be fair, comparing FPStuber and their related peoples skills across games is impossible and (mostly) irrelevant. None of them are going to be playing at a professional competitive level so being a step or three down still makes them fun to watch in basically every game they have a handle on the basics of, and even the people who were pros like Daruma or Arisaka are simply way more entertaining to just watch than they are at the top 0.01%.
And that's all that matters as a streamer.

>>68707945
tbf Botan is hard to top, every time she shows her fps skills she stands head and shoulders above anyone who's not a pro gamer streamer.

Selen/dokibird being not as good as her is normal.

>>68705636
yeah I really do feel nijisanji management saw the jabs and got scared, and forced them to have a stream, on aster's channel no less. I went from 'let's see' to 'hmm this seems suspicious'. nijipajeets are stupid indeed.

>>68684111
GUNRUN I KNEEL

>>68684154
>Solidarity
>I won't stand for this and I'll quit and Pomu's friendship will put bread on the table
You are being unrealistic.

>>68702218
and they both say they are much better together off stream when they hang out. They just can't match each others energy on stream. Remember Pomu's first kiss in EN was Millie, Elira, then Enna.

>>68685003
>MLP
>Millie was a honorary guest in her 3D debut
>Luca most likely had a threesome with both

>>68713393
I don't think Finana is a particularly good streamer, but she could definitely survive on her own and make more money than she does now.
>Will she do it?
Probably not. She drank the kool aid and will go down with the branch.

>>68713565
>Luca most likely had a threesome with both
it's ok though because he probably had Raziel fuck them for him

>>68713565
>turns out that was also his sugar mommy in a dark room with a strap-on because he’s too lazy to even fuck his coworkers

>>68683887
huh those are the three who i want to escape from niji too. especially rosemi.
hope they're working on a plan together right now

>>68713565
why are all mentally ill phasecucks having ntr fantasies?

>>68686858

>>68713980
>>68713851
God Luca's entire career being skinwalked by a VR chat hag is the funniest fucking drama ever, you could have given a team of highly trained catalog shitters a month to manufacture their most powerful rrats and no one would have come up with something as funny as the reality.

They'll do their own EN version of NijiResistence! You'll see! They will get better treatment and it will all turn around!

>>68683887
The jenga tower is almost going to topple but the most important of the trio is Elira because she is the linchpin holding down a lot of the talent on the EN side and if she goes, there is actually going to be a mass exodus guaranteed. Secondly would be Petra not because of her prominence as a talent but because she does so much stuff on the backend of the branch like video work for others and translation back and a liason for the other talents for the actual JP managers and actually got shit done unlike the ESL EN management who can barely speak the language. Her leaving is equivalent to the entire branch getting crippled functionally. Rosemi is only because she's the last person in the first 3 waves as a talent that has some of the highest growth, you basically reduce NijiEN's growth to nothing and probably negative if she leaves.

>>68709235
Welp, im a real bud hoping for happenings so she can begin to afford her ubers. Personally i hope dizzy nepohires her.

>>68717420
She'd do well as an indie. There's no need for her to end up a coffee peddler.

>>68696159
She got catfished

>>68717758
she wouldn't. She'd go back to her wagie job at the bank where she interned to make ends meet. the bright side is that maybe she'd regain the passion she had in vtubing and find joy in it again
or maybe she should stop fucking around and give us what we want - the twitch thot arc showing us her slutty maid shuten-doji cosplay