/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68594293
Jesus if this is true everything makes sense now

No one cares you disgusting fuck, give Shiori her channel back.

>>68594293
*sigh* Going to need a better explanation of who and what this is, in order to care as much as you presumably want me to...

Yandex translation 1/2

>>68594293
Does he think this will somehow gain traction due to all the shitting on that niji is getting? He's clearly not understanding what's going on.

>>68594467
2/2

>>68594449
OG vtuber, former owner of Mirai Akari and Natsumi Moe among other things.

>>68594293
Motherfucker still thinks he's relevant lmao

>>68594293
If he's already given up on pursuing a legal case, why isn't he naming names here?
The dude's name
The dude's parents names
The state-run company
Hard evidence of at least one of the many threats made

Where is any of it?

>>68594293
based chinaman

>>68594293
abayo

>>68594532
Because of the one sidedness of Chinese law vs anywhere else. If the buyer is truly someone with ties to the government, he won't be able to sue that person on Japanese or Chinese soil but that person definitely has the resources to sue him back on Japanese soil.

>>68594293
This is why you don't do business with China

>dealing with the Chinese
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

>>68594293
This cunt really said "with all this stuff coming out about Mikeneko and Kurosanji, it is time to remind everyone who is the original control freak megabitch of vtubing."

>>68594593
he has nothing to lose since he's already contemplating suicide

>>68594593
I doubt Chinese courts would ever do anything to their own citizens even if they don't have govt contacts if the complaints come from some just as irrelevant foreigner.

If true this explains everything about H.Live

>>68594293
so how do we link this to niji?

He made and deleted tweets about killing himself last month too, but this has much more detail.

>>68594635
BUT BUT THE CHINESE MONEY AND CHINESE MARKET THOUGH. THEY HAVE 1 BILLION CHINAMEN THEREFORE 1 GORILLION $$$

>>68594293
>Trusting the Chinese, ever

New anon here. Can anyone explain the backstory of this guy and why he deserve karma ?

>>68594293
Suddenly, but this is a farewell letter. I believe I will die soon. I have been defrauded by a Chinese man and subjected to threats of over 20 million yen in unpaid amounts and 40 million yen if I don't quietly accept it.

Due to numerous threats from this Chinese man, I can no longer live without medication. While the medication is effective, I feel drowsy, and when its effects wear off, I am overwhelmed by panic and anxiety, leading to suicidal impulses.

[Details] In 2022, I established a VTuber agency called "H," and the agency's annual revenue reached 100 million yen. However, I fell seriously ill and sold the agency to a man I met in Shenzhen, China. He belonged to China's super-rich class (his father is the head of a state-owned enterprise, and his mother is one of the leaders of the Fujian Provincial Government), and I trusted him.

However, after the sale (post-closing), for a year and a half, he continuously withheld payments from the livestreamers (I was covering for him) and consistently insulted them. (Examples: "All livestreamers have small brains, stupid pitches. Trash like them can't survive in society." "Small-brained." "These people have low EQ." "I want to fire them," etc. Too many to list, so please forgive the omission.)

Moreover, until now in 2024, despite promises and signed contracts, he has never provided me with a profit and loss statement. Currently, he owes me over 20 million yen. I have urged him several times due to financial insecurity, but he has consistently evaded with excuses like "Wait," "In a few days," "I caught a cold, wait a few days," and recently, when I demanded payment again, he resorted to threatening me.

Examples: "I will make you suffer." "I hate you, so I'll do anything." "I'll make a big fuss." "Do you know what will happen?" "Don't think it'll be over even if you go to court," etc.

Afterward, he added, "If you don't like that, settle for half," "Come on, decide quickly, or the amount will decrease rapidly," and other threats. I have completely broken down mentally, and now I can't survive without medication. (The worst condition in my life, and when the medication's effects fade, suicidal thoughts arise.)

He has previously mentioned things like "Using a slightly expensive method, making companies write defamatory remarks on bulletin boards" and "manipulating public opinion." Feeling my life is threatened in an unsolvable way, I have sought advice from several lawyers.

They have told me that it is "very advantageous," "there is little the other party (Chinese man) can do," but also mentioned that "even if you win in court, you cannot seize assets," and questioned, "Is he even at his address in China?" "Is that address genuine?" Essentially, I am told that I have no choice but to accept the situation. I can no longer live. I can't protect what needs protection.

I am consulting the police about the threats, but I don't know to what extent the Japanese police will respond. Surely, no one will help me. I probably won't be alive soon. Some may say, "This is China risk," "This is what Chinese people do," but it's not that kind of issue. By exposing his actions, anyone could potentially suffer the same harm. I hope the information can be useful even after I'm gone.

In conclusion, even if I succumb to the threats and end my life, my only regret is my family. Please, if there is someone who can help, help.

Eileen

>>68594666
I only expect it once he does go through. This is not that.

>>68594593
It's still important he names the dude at least.
There's no reason to trust a one-sided account without knowing the side of the person he's accusing of scamming and threatening him.

>>68594707
We don't. It's time to turn the guns on Hololive.

Shiori is the Chinaman who stole H.Live and Eilene's money. That's why she ran to Hololive who can provide her legal protections.

>>68594624
>>68594635
I still don't understand why business want to do business with obvious communistic country that is China

>>68594666
Inshallah, this will be a case of equivalent exchange for Selen surviving her attempt.

>>68594293
>Making a deal with chinese people

>>68594774
it's Communist but it operates on Capitalism in a contrarian way. Money is all that matters in China.

You never ever make business with CCP. You only put a factory there like everyone else to slave them with low salary and labor, then export it for 900% to other countries = profit.

>shitposts like a seething shitter about shiori since her debut
>Take away her channel and makes her sad
>Gets death sentence
BASED DESU

All I can understand from this is "Chinese" and "suicide"

>>68594774
The sheer volume of consumers. It’s never a good idea, but businessmen still see the volume as the most important factor.

>>68594293
>chinese
of course

There’s must be shit you can do, but Japanese police is also famously garbage and would use any chance to avoid actually doing work. Their whole system is based on socializing everyone into following rules to begin with. And what trash lawyers are those? If you have doubt about basic info like address, hire a PI. Whole thing fucking reeks of ineptitude. Already lost interest

>>68594293
Does this mean Shiori have had sex with chinamen for money?

>>68594774
What greater rationale than the Root of All Evil our Lord and Saviour warned us of two thousand whole years ago.

>>68594822
>>68594881
Unless you're too big to collapse, it's so fucking retarded for small businesses to deal with China.

If he dealt with Jews, he would have at least gotten the money.

>>68594917
She's been with 4 guys so it's statistically possible, she loves black guys so the probability is on the lower side

>>68595005
lmao

>>68594992
Oh I agree, I'm just talking about why people with money who want more money would stick their wad in that.

>>68594293
Shiori and Mirai Akari dodged a fucking train holy shit

>>68594730
what the fuck did he get himself into

>>68594774
Chinamen regularly reach out to people who are public about having stuff and offer them access to the big markets in China to hijack their brand later.
They even approach random indie vtubers with offers to run bilibili channels for them.

https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1755882973747175854
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1755882973747175854
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1755882973747175854

>>68594293
you just don't do business with zhang recklessly, they can scam you as natural as they breathe

Any one can fill in the back story of this I read the whole thing and still don't understand cuz I don't have the prior context and how does shiori fit into this?

>>68594293
Just ran off to SEA or something

>>68594449
he made this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FY6gxJEMVY
eilene is also responsible for Ebola-chan and Isis-chan.

>>68595042
Akari never belong to him in the first place. He sold his channel before Akari existed even if it took a while to become obvious.

>>68594858
>shitposts like a seething shitter about shiori since her debut

So it was him making all those bait anti threads this whole time? I should have known, had his irrelevance not slipped him from my mind. Got any screenshots of him chimping out in envy, per chance?

>>68595111
eilene was one of the most autistic things on the internet

>>68595084
>やべえw
>translates to "Oh my gosh lol"
bro...
that's fucked up coming from him

>>68594774
unironically it's all noombers autism, retards bought into the kumbaya we're all the same meme and think they'll be able to turn on the eternal growth cheat code and coast on chinese money but the chinese will just copy what you do and sell it back to you once they get the chance

>>68595152
Eilene's family helped spearhead anime autism, it only got faster once Natsumi joined and translations came out.

>>68595111
He didn't make those memes, he just jumped on the bandwagon when they were popular. It's really all he ever did.
You notice that his OCs besides the Eilene character itself never got popular. Akari was made as a collab with the company that later kicked Eilene out.

>>68594293
So basically what you are saying is
China is the biggest plague of vtubing? I thank Coco every day for pulling hololive out of that shithole

*sigh*

Captcha: K0XS

>>68595111
>eilene is also responsible for Ebola-chan and Isis-chan
actual newfag moment

Just when shiori got her collab outside of mori and advent. Do god not want my archiver to be happy. She's already the last in niji en :( , she must atleast be left alone

>>68595291
that collab is with hachama tough.

>>68595084
How can anyone possibly hate this man? He clearly has the power God and Anime on his side. Dare you defy the will of God?

>>68595290
to be fair she was only very popular here, until everyone started making rituals and crap.

It's funny when I read about chinese scammers complaining indians scammed them.
>when you think you're the final boss of ripping people off, but there's a secret boss

I pray this somehow affects shiori but I doubt it will

>>68595291
What are you talking about, she already moved on after that deleted tweet about her book being taken away.

>>68594730
>sold the agency to a man I met in Shenzhen, China
>he continuously withheld payments from the livestreamers (I was covering for him)
Fucking why. You sold the company, retard. Let the chink deal with the mess.

>>68595291
Before she was Shiori, she has mentioned multiple times, since people asked during her streams, that she was never close with the jp side of things, I doubt this will affect her at all

>>68594730
>Moreover, until now in 2024, despite promises and signed contracts, he has never provided me with a profit and loss statement. Currently, he owes me over 20 million yen. I have urged him several times due to financial insecurity, but he has consistently evaded with excuses like "Wait," "In a few days," "I caught a cold, wait a few days," and recently, when I demanded payment again, he resorted to threatening me.
Lmao

just.. non-stop crap this year huh. wonder if he has something to say about akari or moe. hope not.

>>68595349
t. Chinkoid insect

>>68594730
Whay does it reads like he got scammed by a Nigerian prince of China than actual CCP

>No public press
> Sounds like he's dealing with a single dude
> Not even sure if the address is real

Like holy shit man I know chinks are not trustworthy but with all that he has mentioned the scammer might not even be a Chinese.

>>68594467
Why the fuck do people on this board still use this
You can copy text from images nowadays, like from an iphone, tidy up any errors if you’re able to spot any, then use deepL.

>>68595348
kek

It's ovar

>>68594730
>I am consulting the police about the threats, but I don't know to what extent the Japanese police will respond. Surely, no one will help me. I probably won't be alive soon. Some may say, "This is China risk," "This is what Chinese people do," but it's not that kind of issue. By exposing his actions, anyone could potentially suffer the same harm. I hope the information can be useful even after I'm gone.
>shoganai wa ne
The chinese are cunts but the japanese are frustratingly useless.

>>68595421
I don't have an iPhone.

>>68595417
im more concerned about the livestreamers he mentioned, specifically the group 'H'. where are they?

>>68595434
What do you expect them to do, invade China?

>>68594293
Wait so this ISN'T related to niji?
Who fucking cares, then

>>68595436
Why?
Girls must not like you very much, lmao

>>68595434

This is china do is such a fucking useless excuse, bandai namco and Hasbro both got Chinese pd to bust the counterfeit ring, for them. Bandai even gave the Shanghai PD a fucking gunpla as a thank you gift.

>>68595436
You can do it on a computer too.

>>68595291
Oh fuck i actually said niji en. I'm too embroidered into the shitty niji drama my brain is now mush

>>68595498
Are you a lost nijisister or are you the mysterious China man

>>68595508
Yea but that's Bandai. This is just some guy. They're not gonna do anything.

>>68595291
She already cut connections with eilene a long time ago, dont worry. i just hope she doesnt dip her toes in this mess behind the scenes.

>>68595451
Most of them are out of there, namely, Akari, Moe, Etra
Not sure if Moemi is still connected to Eilene, Yumemi hasn't been active for years
Other ones I don't care to look into

>>68595508
>Comparing Bandai Namco and Hasbro to a person like Eilene
Please

>>68594293
lmao faggot get rekt get what you fucking deserve
SHIORI DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM. I KNOW HE TRIED TO CONTACT YOU MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER JOINING HOLOEN. YOU OWE HIM NOTHING. IF YOU HELP HIM OUT HE'LL KEEP COMING BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN USING EMOTIONAL HOOK DON'T DO IT.

Does this dude mention Shiori at all? If not, I don't care.

2024 has been an interesting year thus far.

I am calling bullshit, considered he came back and managed to take back his old channel from (formerly) Natsume Moe.

>>68594293
>>68594467
>>68594494
a good reminder to NEVER trust the chinks.

>>68595560
that reminds me, Their official discord is still active.

Never deal or trade with the Chinese unless you have dirty on them and can blackmail the fucker when they inevitably try to scam you

please drag shiori down that would be so funny lmao

Give me the tl:dr

>>68595666
no

>>68595614
Bitter sister spotted.

>>68595457
JSDF will be our Vanguard when World War 3 arrives. Russo-Ukrainian Meme Warfare will be but a taste of the fury that will be unleashed when Vtubers both Corporate and Indie become the marshals of the Propaganda wings of the Hybrid Warfare Complex. Nijisanji of course, will be collaborating with the filthy scheming Chinks this time around. History is ironic, like that.

>>68595666
Sold all rights to ultrarich chink with CCP background
Chink refuse to pay anything
Now suicidal

>>68595666
>>68595262
Dont forget to thank Coco

>>68594293
That's exactly the Chink risk. Quite exactly. 100%. I won't criticise her but she shouldnt cry and should give it up. It costed her a lot but she has to learn from the chink experience. Also no way chinks assassinate her in Japan, and she can obviously live by a part time job.

Suddenly /pol/

>>68595721
A classic

>>68595568
She isn't that stupidShocking, I know. She hates their guts.

>>68595560
i looked into their official discord, the H seems to refer to an old group of H vtubers. H, Ecchi. yes Adult themed vtubers. here's a wayback machine of the site. https://web.archive.org/web/20220331081552/https://hlive.online/

from the looks of it, it was popular at the time. here's one of their talent's youtube page. its inactive but it has channel links.
https://www.youtube.com/@whitehlive8553/featured

they moved the site to a new domain called virtualhlive.com but it seems a lot different now.

>>68595834
Kefillia and Angelica seems to be active just recently.
https://www.youtube.com/@Kefilia_main
https://www.youtube.com/@angelicahlive/streams
someone correct me if these arent the H eilene is referring to.

>>68595748
Or maybe people are sick and tired of these chinks ruining vtubing
If that makes you /pol/ them I am gladly going to call myself a /pol/fag

>>68595666
ching chong ding dong

>>68595568
>Happiest she's ever been in Hololive
>legit friends with her genmates
>rakes in SCs pretty hard
Why would she do anything?

>>68595834
>an old group of H vtubers
I was referring to the pre holoEN members; Moemi, Yomemi, Moe, Etra
Couldn't give two shits about these newfags

>>68595950
>Moemi, Yomemi, Moe, Etra
they were called eilene family, not H

>>68594730
this reads like a pasta

>>68594494
Wait she takes drug?

>>68595834
> Selling H vtubers to Chinaman, a country notoriously know for not allowing H content.
What is he thinking kek

>>68594293
deal with the chink
it's gonna stink

>>68595896
im fucking sold on kefilia

>>68594293
Give us a name, woman

>>68595946
Because at heart she's a saviorfag

>>68595104
lol there are literal mainland chinese mafias doing illegal businesses here

>>68596077
didn't she vent for days about her alcoholic boyfriend once

>>68595834
I think we all now be confident in what Mikerushuna's final stop on the washup whoretuber train will be.

>>68595834
Huh, I occasionally watched these girls a few times, I like them but I had no idea H Live ended up getting sold to a Chinese guy spending his time making them miserable.
That sucks.

he's trying to get korekore involved, also he mentioned the recent mangaka who committed suicide.

>>68595457
a man can dream

If they wronged you it's impossible to get back at them through the legal means, never trust the mainland chinks, ever.
>>68595748
>he thinks racism is /pol/ exclusive

>>68594730
What kind of contract this woman signed with the chink? No punishment for delayed payment? No lawyer to confirm the threat?

>>68594774
Capitalist think they are powerful, but in reality no one is stronger than ccp in chinkland

>woman
>he
Is Eilene really a man or a women? Make up your fucking mind.

>>68595666
This is hot

>>68594293
>Selen "attempts" suicide
>OMG NIJI EVIL SHUT THEM DOWN
>one of the pioneers of vtubing - regardless of past transgressions - is publicly contemplating suicide
>lol good riddance
Expected, but still disgusting

>>68595111
I remember those

>>68596451
Eilene is a female vtuber character voiced by TTS
The person behind her is a man

>>68595381
You give chink an inch chink will take a mile

>>68596268
Fun fact. He was probably on the spectrum. He was rather aloof from government affairs and kept to preoccupying himself with his own devices. That's why he was hardly ever intimately involved in Sino-Japanese War crimes beyond absent-mindedly rubber stamping the greenlight to massacre chinks.

>>68596456
>regardless of past transgressions
So Sayu and Doki are fine, too?

Did I just start watching vtuber at an interesting time or this is the normalcy of vtuber? So far it's roller coaster of death.

>>68596456
>regardless of past transgressions
Please explain.

>>68595395
Will she answer in eigo? Or I have to translate to jp first?

>>68596451
Eilene is a proto-vtuber that is basically hatsune miku with extra steps. The creator is male.

>She is also known for her money problems (to the point of eating the grass of her backyard) and her unstoppable lust for kawaii and moe girls.
>Is now contemplating suicide due to being 40 million in debt to China
You are what you eat

>>68596535
He is talking about eilen neglecting his company and letting it get hacked by NFTfags and not giving a shit, going after shiori you retard

>>68596456
In case you're retarded it's because it's all about how you exit. Eilene had a good thing and sold the entire thing to an obvious con man despite the group warning her not to do it and is crying about it only because shit didn't pan out after telling her group to fuck off after disbanding.

>>68596456
>Nijishill deflecting by defending with waste of a human global footprint

Gotta give you credit. This is fairly inventive spin-doctoring, even if by mere NDF Hasbara standards.

>>68596530
Royal blood always respected, unlike chink who ruled by invader all the time

>>68596539
I don't know how else to put it, vtubers are all retarded. Do what you will with that info.

>>68596605
Which would’ve been fine to bring up alone, but he also wove in
>>OMG NIJI EVIL SHUT THEM DOWN

>>68594730
"This is what Chinese people do" Someone post the don't do learn Chinese greentext

Eilene never read *do_not_learn_chinese.png*

>>68596752
The one about the guy selling steel? he was an idiot who is trying to shift the blame to the chinese, I guarantee you that.

>>68596752
One of their mottos is literally "If you can cheat, cheat"

>>68594293
Always remember:
>>68595091
Even on Aliexpress, where they are forced to uphold their end of the deal, we still have a lot of shit happening there, imagine when there isn't anything forcing them to.

>>68594470
>he
>>68594527
>he
Is it a tranny? Because there's no way a man can be such a pathetic drama whore.

>>68596752
here? >>68595091

>>68595091
>sigh

>>68596819
>being sent death threats after selling your company to a chink (when you need medicine) and they never pay makes you the dramawhore
Can you guess how I know you are chink

>>68596456
It's because this one actually deserves the rope, sister. I would think you would be able to relate to that.

>>68596066
>woman

>>68596784
>I guarantee you that
Not again, bugman.

>non nijidrama
sorry it's nothingburger

>>68596784

>>68595137
Anti bait threads?

>>68596203
I swear to god if these snakes somehow involves Shiori and Hololive somehow to conflate and ,make this drama big for clicks

>>68594293
Where I come from, we call this justice. Eilene, I genuinely hope whoever's after you finds you.

>>68596605
>>68596648
Suicide is still suicide, if you're mad about Selen's then you should be mad a ching chong bang born is making someone contemplate it. But no, of course since she's isn't part of the tribal wars no one cares, unsurprised but still ickier than a pedo's basement.

>>68594293
What's with the Chinese defense force suddenly coming in?

>>68596998
>involves Shiori and Hololive somehow
Shiori genuinely doesn't deserve this shit. If someone can make some concise videos that put all the information in one spot, people won't fall for it. Otherwise antis are going to try to make this a big deal when it shouldn't even involve her.

>>68597048
>>>>she

>>68594293
Deal with the bug
Pulled be the rug

>>68597096
She has said multiple times on stream, as raven manor, that she's not even familiar with the jp side of the eilene family

>>68597048
Yes anon, shitty people deserve the rope. Not shitty people deserve steak and wine. How is this even an argument?

>>68596784

Shiori Tax

>>68596984
>>/vt/thread/68339130
>>/vt/thread/67097887#p67098901
>>/vt/thread/67103009#p67103118
>>/vt/thread/67049072#p67050407
>>/vt/thread/66648949#p66651095

These things have been a dime a dozen the past 6 months. Who else could it be?

>>68596819
No he's not a tranny.

>>68597297
>Who else could it be?
this board is filled with nijiniggers that hate HoloEN's success, are we really asking this question? Eilene doesn't even speak English.

>>68597269
I see potential in this. Please flesh out more fully and report back.

>>68597095
Because everything sounds so retarded, like if you replace Chinaman with Nigerian Prince it honestly read like a shit post.

Like how TF do you sell away your business to a fucking chink without consulting a international business lawyer who'll put a hard stop to this. Having no way to secure the payment. Not to mention it's a fking Ecchi group what's banned in china. Cherry on top being he doesn't even know if the dudes real or if his address is real.

>>68594752
>Shiori is the Chinaman who stole H.Live and Eilene's money. That's why she ran to Hololive who can provide her legal protections.
I always knew my oshi was based!

If only he took the four boyfriends runt of a whore Shiori with him. They should both an hero.

>>68597048
Not even Christians are mad about Judas roping himself, Anon.

>>68596896
Concession accepted.

>>68597427
All he had to do was keep the gravy train going and fucked it up thinking he'd get a quick pay out.

>>68597334
Are you sure about that?

Eilene IS the chinese, these are so many lies holy shit. I don't buy any of this.

>>68596998
>if
I have a sinking feeling it's not an "if", anon, and I say this as someone who dreads this more than anybody.

>>68597549
His angle is 100% trying to rope Shiorin into his machinations again. If he mentions anything related to Hololive or Natsumi at all that'll be all the proof you need.

>>68597613
This thing (I refuse to call it a person) is the closest thing to Satan I've seen when it comes to vtubing, if true. Shiori's finally something close to happy for the first time in her life, she has done NOTHING to deserve anything like this.

>>68597613
I'd really rather he just kills himself and leaves Shiori out of it and that's not something I typically wish on anyone. Shiori probably would be upset even if he did kill himself though.

>>68597549
If you want to check presence in china you check bilibili

Unfortunately there's none, none of them are official upload

>>68596023
This. They only thihk of exploiting people

>>68594722
Whatever happened to the old adage of "lurk more"?

>>68594293
>spills the beans
Pick up your beans then. They're in the way

>>68597757
Not sure if lurking would help all that much in regards to the old guards. He could do a deepdive on archive but the info there is pretty scant too. One of those "'you had to be there" kind of things

>>68596456
The difference is that Eilene is a bad person.
A pioneer? Sure.
A terrible manager and businessman? Oh, absolutely.

>>68597520
Yes. Him operating the Eilene "anime girl" account doesn't make him a tranny.

>>68597427
>he doesn't even know if the dudes real or if his address is real
GRIM

>>68597843
That's how the other side views Selen.

>>68596456
fuck off cumrag

>>68594774
I also don't understand this considering when you have any legal trouble with them you instantly lose, sueing someone in China is borderline insane.

>>68597682
>steals his company and funds and doesn’t do anything with it
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKsPnGRy0A

>>68597095
Nijisanji Defence Force has been patrolling /vt/ ever since that thing that just happened recently
They happen to be Chinese, so might as well, you know?

>>68597613
Fagoo will protect her, everything will be fineI hope so

>>68597297
Are all Shiori fans as schizophrenic as you? I get that a select group of people on this board like to assign every single negative post to their favorite singular boogeyman but that doesn't mean you should start doing it too.

>>68598183
How many of those were (You)?

>>68596203
Ah yes, let's contact KoreKore, this will be certainly a good idea. Fucking retard

>>68598228
All of them. I'm Eilene by the way.
Feeling like an epic winner detective now?

>>68597613
Cover is going to sue the fuck out of him if he even tries to say anything

>>68597613
If Cover doesn't have an army of lawyers for these exact situations, I will eat my shoe.

>>68594730
normally i'd kek at people who still trust chinks just like that but this guy introduced me to vtuber scene and his videos are kino
i really wish he can find a way to fix this but this looks so fucking over bros..

>>68594293
Whats the equivalent of nigerian prince, chinese emperor?

>>68598032
his suicide note everyone

>>68594730
>panic attacks from thinking about a fat chinese man
Couldn't be me.

>>68598382
Let's hope it is over, this bastard doesn't deserve anything resembling success.

Looks like he's getting scammed, just cut the contact with the chink prince, he can't do shit. Forget the money, it's gone.

>>68594293
This is the second time something has happened to those that have talked shit about my oshi and I'm loving it.
Karma really does exist. Watamage brings me divine justice.

>>68598773
I KNEEL, WATAMAGE

>>68594293
>That one voiced web comic featuring one of "H"s debut talents and not-Shiori
>There is a timeline where she would have regularly collabed with them
>There could theoretically also been a timeline where Shiori would have joined their group and produce adult content with them
What a wild world.

Also, the timeline Eliene provided is wrong. While she did create the company, it was already debuting to the world their first 2 talents mid-2021. It was severely mismanaged and had several nepotism hires, including fucking Comdost for an upcoming English branch, which never happened.
They still had enough VC to get their talent numbers up to 7, but the first 5 all fucked off after witnessing the absolute state of their management, having gone indie since then. Purges were made after the company did change management, which also lead to their talent base somewhat stabilizing and even flourishing.
It is possible though that this elusive China man also sold the company down the line as there is one link suggesting them being currently owned by another company who already had a vtuber brand under their hood with similar content.

>>68597297
Anon holo's have a shitton of antis, people don't like her and think she used Eilene's channel to get into hololive. I'm not sure I agree, but I doubt Eilene visited this shithole more than a few times.

>>68594293
There's so much wrong with this. Started with a suicide threat indicating malice as a motive for publishing the content. If the story is true, Eilene would win any court battle. Since he might not be able to seize assets, he shouldn't think of paying the fraudulent debt as his own assets likely wouldn't be seized either. This is dramaposting at its worst. It reminds me of Rushia style suicide baiting.

>>68598032
This is some next level grift, trying to bait his followers to spread the vid with the pretense of cincern that others don't fall for the same scam. Gee, I wonder who he hopes the vid will reach if enough people spread it. SHIORIN DO NOT FALL FOR HIS BULLSHIT

>>68597338
Since their old videos had english subs and regularly referenced 4chan, I assumed they spoke english

>>68598272
No? You obviously are at least one of them though.

>>68599050
No, I am all of them.

>>68599005
Yes, this is true. Legally speaking it doesn't make sense. No need to suicide bait if you're in the right. Eilene should be angry instead. Something doesn't add.

>>68598924
This is also true. Eilene was in charge of h.live for a long time.

>>68598924
Whatever happened between Dost and Natsumi? Did they have a falling out?

Who the fuck is this and why should I care. I only watch Hololive. Is this niji related? Because if I can laugh more at Niji, that's Hololive related for me

>>68599118
Comdost is a walking fucking vtuber curse. Any project he gets involved in fails miserably.

>>68599128
It's neither holo neither niji related, as they were a vtuber before even kizuna AI

>>68594635
someone post THAT image

>>68599210
Oh okay, he got the note already, he should be done with it

>>68599095
The part that doesn't add is he's supposedly so stressed and in debt but took the time to make and edit a vod about it and upload it still using the tts, and saying people should spread the vod out of some altruistic concern for others. This is not the behavior of someone at the end of their rope.

>>68599247
read the thread my nigga
>>68595091

Eilene's post is blowing up on Japanese twitter.
Not sure anything's going to happen, but I hope he gets the help he needs.

>>68599006
Shiori already told him to fuck off the last time he held her old channel hostage and tried to land in her DMs
She would be really stupid to associate with him now

>>68599274
Yes, seems like an attempt to bury the reputation of the H company so that Chang leaves Eilene alone, gaining sympathy in the process.

>>68599274
I think the translation isn't the best. It reads more like a "in case I die" letter. He's probably unable to pay and he's gonna get merc'd by the chinese.

>>68599358
The problem is, he never named the company explicitly.

WAIT WAIT WAIT SHIORI IS NATSUMI MOE????? WTFFFF

>>68599342
No, fuck this faggot. He knows exactly what he's doing. Suicide my ass, this bitch is planning to go on JP Keemstar? For what purpose? The whole thing stinks like dog shit

>>68599387
And still as boring.

>>68599387
That was obvious from her voice lol

>>68594293
>Lost Akari and Natsumi due to a bad deal gone wrong
>Vtuber corp failed heavily without anyone knowing it existed
>Made the oh-so clever decision to take the chinaman deal
Name a more unlucky vtuber than Eilene

>>68599402
I assume you've never had to deal with actual untreated mental illness. Ok, maybe you have /here/, but this is just them being desperate to get help for something they've been facing on their own. They're not asking for money and only put into words how they felt. It's not abnormal to want to end your own life when dealing with very stressful situations (to yourself) that you don't see an escape of. That's how suicide works.

I know you don't have sympathy for the man, but I hope I at least explained why people ARE supportive of them right now.

>>68599533
>unlucky
Also, it's still funny to me how his face is the one retards used for the vyt wiki. That's like f/a/gs praising jewkob for saving manga.

>>68599533
They've always been a very hard worker, but also made very poor choices.

>>68599533
If you have to take meds, you don't deserve to run a business. Simple as.

>>68599210
Then what the fuck does this have to do with Shiori, i could be shitting up niji reddit instead of this

>>68598924
Wait is there any truth to the whole Shiori anti thing?
I thought the whole thing was just completely a meme but did Eileen actually have any connection at all to Shiori?

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14623520903309503
>when Chinks are so universally reviled you don't even need to rescind your peer-reviewed genocide denial

He did nothing wrong.

>>68599575
I understand why they're supportive because they're retards that don't truly understand how people like him operate and only know the vods.

>>68599420
>>68599474
dude I used to watch her back in the days, then she disappeared and I didn't care about advent. She was there all along. I need to process this holy fuck

>>68599575
Retard, they could easily seek legal counsel if their story is true. This is a grift.

>>68599699
It's a meme. Anons who don't like Shiori used the stolen valor argument and holofans called them Eilene.

>>68594293
>selling something and hoping you get the money later
What a bad idea under the circumstances.

so is eilene really a he? its been almost a decade of me believing it's a chick that talks really fast

>>68599752
It's okay, anon. Shiori would be happy to see an old fan return. You should watch her debut stream and first few streams if you want to get some lore.

>>68599718
Because his humor was fun and engaging? It still is, from the one or two AI videos I saw. It's like a shitpost SoL.

>>68599699
>any truth to the whole Shiori anti thing
You gotta be a bit more specific as there are multiple anti things going on that come to my mind.
But to simplify things, Shiori was essentially part of Eliene's vtuber company/grift/multiverse/whatever you want to call it. She fucked off and went indie after getting tired of dealing with their bullshit and eventually found her way to where she is now.

>>68599762
>they could easily seek legal counsel if their story is true
He already has with no success. At least read the damn thing.

>>68599718
Because concerntrolling is a classic Nijiflection Bingo square. Look at how they used it to derail this thread by whatabouting Selen too.

>>68599784
It's either retarded or a lie, and eilene admitted to not have been involved in the new videos at all so there is little reason to believe.

>>68599840
That's a clear indicator that the story is bullshit.

>>68599829
Doesn't take away from the fact he's a grifting pos

>>68599876
Eilene probably lied and can't get the authorities involved or his lies would be exposed too.

>>68599813
It's should be fucking obvious, but continue to believe while you still can

>>68599876
>an unmedicated mentally ill person didn't document everything needed for an open and shut case
Don't be a retarded faggot just because you hate them.

>>68594293
In cases like these I always wonder why the person immediately jumps to suicide. I mean, if you're planning on dying either way why not at least take the motherfucker who put you in that situation with you?

>>68599954
It's a cry for attention

>>68599954
They've been thinking about this for a long time now, I'd wager but finally decided to tell everyone.

>>68599932
I don't even know this retard, but, unless they did everything face to face, there's going to be records.

>>68599993
From what I've heard, Eilene has always been naive and trusting, which let people take advantage of him. So yes, I'm almost certain their agreement for payment was verbal while the documents for ownership were not.

>>68599993
If the company was registered legally, there should absolutely be records.

Which makes me question, if H is a japanese company the government should be able to intervene, so it doesn't add up.

Unless Eilene registered in China in which case lol retard.

>>68599752
She even still sometimes talks about old chat members and history. She went off for like 10 full minutes about an old viewer that stuck with her in one of her needy streamer overdose streams. The stories this woman must have...

>>68600033
The man says he has contracts. You are retarded.

>>68599954
If you fall into massive debt that you can never repay, what else can you feasibly do?
Pic related for example actually done it after losing a huge countersuit.

>>68600055
Did they specify what the contracts were?

>>68594293
I have zero sympathy Eilene, you're still a piece of shit that fucked-up and ruined a lot of young talent.

>>68600101
i don't know, suck it up, develop some survival skills and go off the grid?

>>68594293
EAT SHIT EAT SHIT EAT SHIT THIS IS YOUR FUCKING KARMA BITING YOU IN THE ASS YOU CHINK FUCK

Something everyone is missing
>china
You think they're going to listen to a Japanese court of law? If they have control over all the accounts, it's over.

>>68600115
He said they were signed contracts. But at the same time doesn't know if the guy was real. Don't believe this bullshit.

>>68600101
File bankruptcy

>>68600158
this, china isnt going to do fuck all to eilene, yeah its a huge money loss but she's in the safest country in the world

>>68594408
Wait what happened to Shiori?

it's depressing how quickly people shun not even a pillar of the vtubing world but the fucking foundation of it just because of some lies and misunderstandings caused by some grifter e-whore whose only achievement in life is gifting her way into the blue dorito heaven. Most people seem to have caught on but sadly the ones that didn't are too fsr gone too be rational

>all these newfags ITT incapable of reading the thread before asking retarded questions
LURK MORE

>>68600251
>Leave Shiori's RM to fend for herself under the shittiest manager possible
>Shiori finally gets something nice in her life by getting into Holo
>Immediately comes back after being gone for years and tries to leech, get's rejected
>Seethes eternally and forcibly takes back the RM channel without permission despite it having nostalgic meaning to Shiori
>Anti posts about Shiori in anonymous places like 2ch and 4ch.
>Shiori felt incredibly upset over this, had a silent piano twitter space for an hour and you could hear sniffling in the back every now and then. Eventually got over it while having fun with her new fans by playing A hat in time multiplayer with them.
>Fast forward to now, karma is eating away at Eilene

>>68596451
Eilene is a dude.

And now you know why you involve a competent lawyer in a business deal like this. Things like escrow exist.

>>68597673
No, she wouldn't. She'd probably dance on his grave.

Yep, typical Chinese businessmen will fuck you over if there's profit in it. This is nothing new. Even if you think of them as a friend or family, still nope. They only think of whatever they can get from you and they are more than willing to abandon you if you have nothing more to offer. It's a shame that they discovered it too late and in a hard way but I wish that someone will help this poor soul. And remember guys, never ever do business on communist Chinese soil if you're not big enough to handle the risks.

>>68595017
When was this said?

>>68600684
its bait anon

>>68600508
lol now can some counter-autist write the greentext where eilene is dodging triad death threats and shiori blanks him

>>68600684
Just more anti posting from scorned nijiniggers / phasekeks, disregard.

>>68594293

>>68599118
>falling out
I'm not sure there's anyone that Shiori despises mote than Cumdump. They were never friends, just someone that Eilene forced her to work with.

>>68600783
why would they attack one of their own lmao

>>68595436
Android does too. Use Google translate with camera.

>>68599050
NTA but is the idea that it's just a bunch of people that just hate hololive instead of a single person so wild to you? You people embarrass me

>>68599128
OG VTuber, that collabed with Hololive and posted in 4chan a lot circa 2014.

>>68599006
Also doing that when there is a lot of eyes on vtubing in general because of what happened to Selen, and what's going on with Michael The Cat.

>>68600508
Jesas
Now i feel happy this nigga get fucked by chink

>>68600295
For what it's worth, I couldn't give two shits about her. Her only real achievement was getting into the industry before most people.

Eilene on the other hand? He might be a retarded fuck who made bad decisions, but he built most of what he had on his own, although who knows if he'd be as successful without Moemi.

>>68596539
This year has been specially wild

>>68601104
>One of their own
>A holo
Rumao, you fucking wish. And even if you somehow don't think this, just look at all the nijiniggers attacking selen / doki.
What a fucking retarded statement, I don't even know why I'm replying to such obvious bait.

>>68600295
Nice try Eilene, go eat grass.

>>68600047
Probably registered in China where he conducted most of his business.

>>68600508
When did that happen? Fuck, how did I miss it. October, November? I wasn't paying attention to /vt/ubers in general those months.

>>68599876
It's China, dude.

How the fuck can she even drag shiori into this you retards, didn't they cut ties ages ago? If she manages to do it I'll definitely sub to her channel though, absolute madwoman

>>68601420
In Nov, yeah.

>>68601420
We don't know if that actually happened, Eilene tagged her in Twitter, Shiori had her mope session, and nothing changed while Eilene went on to make his own channel using AI to make videos. Natsumi Moe's channel is unchanged.

>>68601352
Chong ching pong

>>68600508
>Introduced the idea of GFE into vtubing thanks to the talents that worked under her
>Gets screwed by the GFEtuber of HoloEN
This is pure irony years in the making

>>68601583
I swear it always happens to the good people and people who actually deserve bad things never get their comeuppance

dont ever trust the chinks

This thread is so fucking yellow, it reeks like wet rice right here.

>>68601502
>>68601493
I see, anything noteworthy to go and look into archive, or greentext anon summarised it well enough?

>>68601776
Not at all. It's full of nonsense /vt/ rrats.

Chinks do this to their own.
Just watched businesses that are failing taking the money and run, leaving workers begging the govt to do something about it.

>>68601818
Be careful with calling our rrats "nonsense", didn't you learn anything?

>>68601851
Housing collapse is happening right now in China.

>>68594730
>Sold a company to a zhangman
>kept using own money to run company you just sold
>get depressed when he don't agree with your expense, use medicine as a cope
Count it as loss and be over with it. That company is no longer hers anyway why bother running it?

>>68601776
nta but the green text is accurate enough. shiori made a vaguepost about it, equating it to her losing a treasured book, but deleted it after the hat in time stream. the difference between the start of the vod and the end is night and day.

>>68601880
You have a point, but that's because kurosanji defied everyone's expectations.

>>68594730
It doesn't matter, Moemi doesn't count as virtual youtuber.

>>68601451
If you're selling a business, no matter the size, without consulting a lawyer, you are beyond help.

>>68594293
Kinda sad that the newfags aka /vt/fags slander Eilene with shit he hasn't done, he never harassed Shiori or abused her, she left on her own without any problem. Kinda funny how schizos are claiming he was making shiori anti threads here, lmao, we all know is hololive fans that love to shit post about other holos.

I hope Eilene survives this, he deserves it, he was the pioneer of vtubers.

>>68594730
>you sold but still pay the liver with your own money..?
My question "WHY..?"

>>68599813
It has been proved for a long time in /jp/ now.
Link it may count as dox in this shite board but you can easily look for it in 3rd party archives.

>>68595137
every advent member got anti'd on debut, it was a concentrated effort by a not-rogue twitter unit that so happens to support phase talents.
i dont think this eilene character, is so related other than doing what she did to a PL's channel.
fucking stop taking everything some anon shitposts with as gospel.
even this thread has no proof if this person is a man, woman, telling the truth or whatever.

>>68599954
>immediately
Just because you only learned about it today doesn't mean it materialized into existence today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKsPnGRy0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKsPnGRy0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKsPnGRy0A
he posted his suicide note

>>68596456
I'd make fun of you for being commietkrust but even he's probably fucked off from being a shill. I just find it hard to feel sympathy for a faggot who put multiple innocent people in a financial deadlock before the starting line for Vtubing even truly existed.

I'll remember Moemi's Amazon wishlist until the day I fucking die.

So far from what I’ve read, out little Archiver is fine and shouldn’t be dragged into this. That’s all I care about.