/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68523419
>I'd say around 5% to 15% right now
That's too low of a chance. I wouldn't say 50-50 but I say 5% is the level of chance when they merged NijiKR and NijiID and probably considered merging them all into "ONE NIJISANJI"
>which I believe to be unavoidable now
but not in the immediate future

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://vt.poi.cat/

Hololive sites
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://holosongs.com/
>https://holo-spotify-stats.jirikunes.eu/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

>OHAYO GOZAIMASU, HITSUJI-SAN ... KOYO-SAN, it is I, your agent!
>Thanks for taking part of your precious schedule to meet me here
>As you both know, I used to represent both of you in our talent agency
>It might come as as shock for you but
>WE MADE A MISTAKE WHEN SUBMITTING YOUR APPLICATION FORMS!
>You were ...... how can I put it ..... SWITCHED AT BIRTH!
>You should have been the Koyori and you, the VERSEn Sheep!
>haha, silly mistake, I know!
>What did you ask, hitsuji-san? You would like to have it fixed and take the role as Koyori?
>Gomen, gomen! It is not longer possible!
>Better luck next time! I'm sure new opportunities will arise!

/#/ is a cunny general.

>>68523488
Recent clip numbers
>>68516250
>>68516422
>>68516455

As long as nothing more comes out I think it's over. I feel like almost everyone has got it out of their system.

>>68523485
Ok, realistically, which of the 2 can maintain their buff longer?

>>68523487
holy catwalk sex hopefully fauna plays her

>>68523488
Mika!

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>54,381: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>31,750: Miko (Hololive)
>30,683: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,821: Aqua (Hololive)
>15,639: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,491: Botan (Hololive)
>13,023: Korone (Hololive)
>12,813: Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,544: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,158: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,736: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,573: Kanade (Hololive)
>11,153: Roco (Nijisanji)
>10,749: Flare (Hololive)
>10,360: Aki (Hololive)
>10,338: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,113: Furen (Nijisanji)

>>68522940
>>68523402
Is this true?

>>68523450
is this a schizo clip or she sounds like her?

>>68523467
Yep. She had a model and cover ready for her redebut

*YESTERDAY’S EN TALLY OF THE DAY*
9,219: Ina (Hololive) | Choya Sponsorship/Drawing Stream
7,168: FuwaMoco (Hololive) | Metal Gear Solid 2
6,976: Mori (Hololive) | Persona 3: Reload
6,455: Vantacrow (Nijisanji) | Unarchived Birthday Karaoke
5,707: Baelz (Hololive) | Yakuza Kiwami


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2024
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 23,962 - Palworld
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,788 - Fuwawa's Birthday
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 27,322 - Mococo's Birthday
4) Gura (Hololive) - 29,818 - Palworld
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 25,503 - Sekiro
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 35,991 - FuwaMoco Morning
7) Ina (Hololive) - 9,219 - Choya Sponsorship/Drawing Stream

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
3x: FuwaMoco
2x: Bijou
1x: Gura, Ina

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
22p: FuwaMoco
11p: Bijou
9p: Ina
5p: Fauna, Gura
3p: Axel, IRyS, Kyo
1p: Mori, Nerissa

>>68523566
Hopefully, as much as I love to see Nijisanji immolate themselves, it got pretty boring already when there was nothing notable in her return stream but her numbers

>>68523574
I say neither and that both will stabilize close to their original numbers

>>68523634
Probably one of the most obvious bails I have ever seen. Didn't even bother to take a break between personas. I'm shocked she doesn't have more antis.

>>68523368
No

Why am I seeing so many okayu lactation r18 lately

>>68523566
There's still that document on Luca to come

FEBRUARY 2024 HIGHLANDER
>1) 44,878: Miko (Hololive) MioSubaMiko
>2) 31,376: Subaru (Hololive) SubaBota Street Fighter 6 [S]
>3) 53,120: Nijisanji (Nijisanji) Nijisanji 6th anniversary day1
>4) 59,524: Sakura Aoi (Indie) Debut stream [S]
>5) 42,247: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) LOL
>6) 36,058: Fuwamoco (Hololive) FWMC Morning episode 77 [4th]
>7) 16,821: Aqua (Hololive) Poppy Playtime [4th]


> PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
2x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>>68523621
That Kaela audience has a big EN component? Yes.

>>68523664
I know that they are going back to their normal numbers, anon, what I am asking is who can maintain it longer of the two

>PekoMari basically spend a whole week being sick after a trip
Are they...you know...getting old?

>「My Dearest」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxZeLM9rx7s
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>68523500
they're a publicly traded company, no? investors would murder them if they lost their only remaining overseas expansion branch

>>68523488

>>68523634
She started teasing the model the day her graduation got announced, absolutely boss move

>>68523735
If they both immediately go back to APEX spam, I say Dokibird.
It depends on their choice of content, really

>>68523763
Fuwamoco, Randen and Okayu are the only events that matter

>join hololive
>make friends
>join nijisanji
>make rivals
why is it?

>>68523664
I think doki will normalize a bit higher than her niji usual, not much higher but maybe like 3500 or 4000 or so.
Yes most of the people watching were drama tourists but she's always been seen as a holo-adjacent niji, and her being out will greenlight watching her for some holofans.

>>68523692
Her cover references the antis she had in niji

>>68523621
funny because ID probably has the most unrestriced access throughout all holoservers since they've been seen playing at minecraft EN server before the merge happened. in case of Kaela, she's just doing it so she can collab with beebs. i think Anya also joined the EN server once?

>>68523621
Kaela collabs a lot with EN because she is an EN fan(specially Kronii)
Kronii collabs a lot with ID (only Kaela) because Kronii is Kaela's favorite EN and she asks her for collabs all the time
It's an ouroboros (haha get it)

>>68523823
Fansa always has references to antis

I don't get it though, despite NijiJP and NijiEN having completely different cultures and languages they both ended up having the same hardcore bootlicking cult like culture? How did they both reach the same conclusion?

>people on the Hololive subreddit just outright talking about doxx info of Mumei and downvoting anyone who calls them out on it
KEK

Biboo streaming today? Why did she burn out already

>>68523736
Pekora can't even do her iconic laugh anymore, she's becoming a hag

>>68523745
>if they lost their only remaining overseas expansion branch
The thing is: it is very possible (and Hololive more than proved that) to expand overseas without necessarily having a foreign based branch.
Most of the initial Holo expansion into China, the SEA and North America came from their homegrown branch and only later, when the audience was already receptive to their brand of entertainers, they created their overseas branches.

With Nijisanji it was the other way around, they blasted the market with poorly conceived foreign branches
>Nijisanji Shanghai
>Nijisanji India
>Nijisanji Korea
>Nijisanji Indonesia
and finally
>Nijisanji English
and in each of these cases it failed miserably because, whatever was being provided to each of those markets had almost nothing to do with what Nijisanji was providing to their local market.
I say Nijisanji would benefit from a "reset"
>fold the EN branch back into "ONE NIJISANJI"
>try to cater to the foreign audience with THEIR OWN BRAND of content, instead of being "Holo-lite" or "Deuce Bigalow: male gigolo"

beggar sisters...how could she do this...

>>68523745
Idk if Riku is good at sucking dick or something. But I would NEVER entrust my money to a company who can't do basic PR like NijiEN did, shit scream incompetency

>>68523736
That's what hagfags like, sickly non-fertile women

>>68523547
It was from that day on that Hitsugi-san earmarked all of her pay towards hiring an assassin.

>>68523890
Both have the same goal: be a holoanti

>>68523903
god, thanks her collabs aren't on her channel because she really hates le wink wink doxfags
>>68523969
make them wear shinri's outfit, it will pass as HOLOLIVE ONLY

>>68523969
>HOLOSTARS IS HOLOLIVE
I guess is how they would respond. And they would be wrong.

>>68523822
>she's always been seen as a holo-adjacent niji,
She has NEVER been that. She has name recognition with the Holo audience but that part of the Holo audience is definitely not one to appreciate a FPS chuuba like Selen

>>68523916
Japan trip, sirs.

>>68523964
How's their chinese expansion fairing?

>>68523903
>Israel
Jesus...

>>68523547
Removing the agency from the verse sheep lower the final result, but a sliding doors moment once in a while is good enough

>>68523566
Well at least it's socially acceptable to claim that Nijisanji sucks right now. It was retarded that the Nijis and sisters were trying to push the narrative that it wasn't okay to shit on Niji because of mental health kek.

>>68523969
Is holostars hololive?

>>68523964
>The thing is: it is very possible (and Hololive more than proved that) to expand overseas without necessarily having a foreign based branch.
Explain Vspo

>>68523811
wouldnt call bullies as rivals

>>68524032
I don't see how people can like Mumei after knowing her past stuff.

>>68523903
you dont know what the word dox means

Doki has no lewds. Selen then?

>>68523964
>With Nijisanji it was the other way around, they blasted the market with poorly conceived foreign branches
>and finally
>>Nijisanji English
Let's be honest about NijiEN. They were fairly well received by the audience that bought in. Their biggest problem was that they have subhuman tier management of their brand and let the organs do as they please with little supervision, assistance or risk assessment. They would still be competitive today if the talent had been more mindful of the consequences of their actions.

>>68524109
AI

>>68523642
Anon, why the fuck do you just randomly post random images in /#/?
What's your endgame?

>>68524038
I hate "Hololive good Nijisanji bad" is now the new normal since Cover will lose accountability. Hard to chastise someone for slapping the homeless when someone else is raping the homeless.

>>68524046
What? They're doing the exact opposite, instead of making their homegrown chuuba palatable to the foreign audience, they
>impose draconian restrictions on clippers and fan artists
>tried to "crowdsource" the management of their intended EN branch

>>68524033
>How's their chinese expansion fairing?
Nijis? Poorly. VR didn't get a foothold, Luxiem lost the bridgehead they created there

>>68523964
>fold the EN branch back into "ONE NIJISANJI"
thats exactly the pitch AC would use to get the investors off their backs

>>68524032
Le forbidden knowledge strikes again

Gundou's revenue pools as an indie
>Amazon associate URL
>Twitter
>Twitcasting
>Merch
>Youtube
>Fanbox
>Sponsorships
>Fantia (where she does erotic stuff)
50k USD last september which was her biggest month. She also recently tweeted that her tax accountant was very confused when she said she quit her job yet her income has tripled

>>68524109
She does, she commissioned porn of herself 6 years ago

https://twitter.com/TostantanNSFW/status/974619063514099712
https://twitter.com/TostantanNSFW/status/976043138514010112

>>68523831
Palworld is CGDCT game of course they'll go to EN server

>>68524032
>>68524098
unironically this is the rule of the sub
>No personal information / doxxing. This applies to talents and Redditors alike. Don't even hint at it.
they are breaking the rules

>>68524109
No

>>68524098
Kys doxxfag

>>68523566
Good drama tourists and normalfags need to fuck off

>>68524090
Holofags are forgiving to those who wish to change. If anything, it makes their journey into wholesomeness all the more entertaining.

>>68524126
>They were fairly well received by the audience that bought in
For the 37 millisecond Lazudya remained as "HoloEN-lite" before they debuted Ethyria and started the slipperly slope of
>we're Hololive, but better and more unhinged
that killed them down the road

>>68523811
>Rivals
has a positive connotation
Better call them bullies or abusers

>>68524126
they had a good start with Lazulight and Obsydia. it only got ugly when Luxiem arrived.

>>68523890
How do you come to that conclusion? Westrannies aren't like JP fans at all. The tranny fanbase NijiEN cultivated is fully on Hoglen's side purely because they got emotionally manipulated by her bogus ACK attempt and shaky bullying claims she likely can't prove.

>>68524135
Cover interns lurk the threads

>>68524174
The ai one better.

>>68524170
>Twitter
Elon you fucking scammer

>>68523811
In Niji you have to fight for resources. In Holo everyone is well fed

>>68524206
>you live on earth
>OMGGGGGGGGG DOXXXXXXXX
dumb faggot

>>68524032
why are hoomans like this?

>>68523969
>Kronii in Vesper outfit
>Fauna in Shinri outfit
>Mori in Maglord outfit
>Shiori in Flaygod outfit
>Fwmc in Bettel and Bettel 2 outfit
Easy

>>68524187
Yeah they'll get removed when T-chan gets to it, they always do.
One of the few rules they enforce consistently.

INCLINING DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

After reading the discord leaks, I feel like Aster could fit pretty well in that grocery store copypasta

Oh

>>68523903
There was a bigger thread just about who Mumei's mysterious collab partner was going to be but I can't seem to find it anymore. Hopefully it got deleted

>>68524256
Go back
>>>/jp/

>>68523964
didnt they have a nijisanji taipei too?

>>68524143
I worry they’ll double down on homos with no regard of what they’re capable of. They could drag down the whole company if they end up creeps or even worse.

>>68524174
Ah this artist is gross
Changed into the same monster every Western artist changes into eventually

>>68524147
That's how Steve Jobs saved Apple, after the company lost their way in the eighties and nineties with a multitude of disparate products targeting no particular audience
>ONE PRODUCT LINE
Incidentally, it was his fault in the first place, when he started the whole "Macintosh vs. Lisa" internal feud, on purpose, in the company

>>68524032
>literally a min later
thank you jannies
tell tranny-chan to kill herself

>>68524149
>Luxiem lost the bridgehead they created there
Was Vox's outburst really that damaging that the Chinese Fujos really was done with him?

Klee sex

>>68524170
>quit Niji job
>triple the income
kek

>>68524046
>Explain Vspo

>>68524032
>>68523903
>comment removed by a moderator

>>68524032
Its gone now. Reddit internchama. Stop lurking here and do your job

>>68523695
Oh, so is she going for idol route or what?

>>68524308
Is this the blueray version?

>>68524322
Yep, got merged into Shanghai and then spun off to some other company

>>68524170
The meta seems to be: stick with Nijisanji for a year or two and then leave in a way where it's obvious that Niji screwed you over.

>>68524312
The OP deleted it after it got revealed who the actual collab partner was it seems

Nijisanji winning again
holokek can only create lies and support rogue ex organs
still no proof of selen's claims btw

>>68524135
Thread seasoning

>>68524170
>She also recently tweeted that her tax accountant was very confused when she said she quit her job yet her income has tripled
damn kurosanji..

>>68524267
Most likely a Dragoon trying to integrate to Hololive fandom

>>68524149
Luxiem really burnt out their popularity fast huh and unlike Myth they don't have extreme mindshare and merch movement.

>>68524231
...
How is slamming images into /#/ related to that in any shape, way or form?!

>>68524359
Nijisanji's cut is higher than 2/3

>>68524332
>>68524369
That was fast. Good to see doxxfags getting put in their place. They got an inch with Selen and Dokibird and have been trying to take a mile.

>>68524170
porn makes money

>>68518782
>Anti-Unicorn/Cuckposting Doki already
Do Nijisisters just have a template they use to copy and paste baits or something?

>>68524032
>saying selen is dokibird? :)
>saying mumei is shachimu? >:(

How quick will Doki's court case progress? How often can we expect to get the juicy details (including who did the bullying) as more and more evidence gets publicized?

>>68524332
I mean I think it just came down to insufficient reports, things need to get reported before they hit the moderation queue after all..

>>68524498
There won't be any court case. Doki won't take them to court. They won't take Doki to court.

>>68524170
She does ERP asmr iirc

>>68524326
If they are stupid, they'll do that until the girls can't bail them out anymore, in which case, deserved

>>68524170
>Fantia
I'd be curious how much that makes as a percentage.

>>68524392
nah she just wanted to put out a song

>>68524458
Luxiem burnt out a lot faster than Myth did and also started attacking their fanbase around six months after debut.

>>68523890
>despite NijiJP and NijiEN having completely different cultures and languages they both ended up having the same hardcore bootlicking cult like culture?
Despite having different cultures and different languages, the institutional foundations were exactly the same.

>>68524531
>They won't take Doki to court
don't underestimate the stupidity of anycolor

>>68524461
>>68524449

>>68523964
Wouldn't work, Niji En is the only reason anyone outside China or Japan cares about the company

>>68524476
This. We need to keep talents on a tight leash so they don't start getting any ideas just because Selen managed to funnel her fans to her old identity.

>>68524545
>if they’re stupid
I mean…

>>68524476
they think doxhinting is fine because they already do it in other places

>>68524481
They are called bots

Wasn't the NijiEN revenue the thing that pushed Nijisanji as a whole past Hololive? I know Nijisanji will do good revenue for Q3 but I'm worried about Q4.

What sort of CCV are we expecting for Doki going foward? 30k? 40k?

>>68524610
they already started it in the new post

>>68524610
God I hate tourists

>thread seasoning
We're Inclining DESU

>>68524493
Equating is not correct. shachimu is a literal who indie artist. Dokibird is a drama-boosted indie chuuba. Selen is a dead chuuba under Anycolor. Mumei is a popular EN chuuba under Cover.

>>68524429
> revealed
She had a fucking Red heart emoji with a finger pointing at it in her tweet. They just wanted an excuse to act like a bunch of retards

>>68524589
>outside China
kek, most of their audience back when anyone cared about them came from that place.
Right now, there are more people paying negative attention to them from the abroad pespective than people actually "caring" about them and with Selen and Pomu out that won't be any better

>posting real faces/real names of people
Doxx
>posting previous incarnations
Not doxx
This is Shiori btw. My post shouldn't be deleted because it doesn't violate the no "doxx/real life rule".

>>68524589
>Niji En is the only reason anyone outside China or Japan cares about the company
reminds me that lulu used to be the face of nijisanji in the western audience before, as the inevitable fate of liver organs go, being squandered by her parent company

>>68524498
She overwhelmingly has the public on her side. Niji won't do shit unless they're planning on absorbing NijiEN into the main branch because taking her to court will basically kill all western support.

>>68524498
Just because she lawyered up, doesn't mean she's necessarily going to pursue a court case. It's a precautionary measure, one that anycolor decided to go 'fuck it's and shit all over themselves while trying to shit on Selen.
At most, I'd expect an out-of-court settlement for 'failure to resolve workplace harassement leading to suicide attempt' to prevent the dread word.....
DISCOVERY.

>>68524636
See >>68523664

>ackshually rules are-
TRUE rule 2

>>68524358
Man, they have so many subsidiaries. They really need to consolidate a few of those.

>>68524429
>The OP deleted it
nope, it was the mod

>>68524170
Guarantee the whore stuff brings the most money

>>68524636
Reasonably? 3-5k. That's like lower holoEN-tier numbers anyway, which is impressive enough.

Reminder the reason nijifaggot ban selen song because she can't sing for shit too much autotune

>>68524586
Okay, fine, I was just wondering if this was some weird botting nonsense gone awry, but if you're present and just wanting to spice things up, why not.

Kaela finally no.1 ID took her long enough. ID4 has to kneel to the corn.

>>68524563
Ah. Doing things for the sake of it. Commendable.

>>68524636
Depends on the quality of bots. sub 15k. Honeymoon period buff for at least a week or so.

>>68524728
Based

another day where holoEN is mogged by an EN indie. this is becoming very common these days. should holoEN be downgraded to small corpo status at this point?

>>68524493
I mean, she herself already made the connection whilst Mooms never did to her roommate

>>68524636
For the next week or so, that's not impossible.
But longer term, lower end Holo is probably the likeliest answer.

>>68524765
Kobo still mogs her, quit being retarded.

>>68524728
Shouldve dished out bans. Dont know why they never seem to do

I think they filtered the reddit post. You can't find it on the subreddit unless you have the link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/s/9fjSbWK31g

>>68523664
Doki will have a 20k floor or more going forward. She's a very big deal.

>>68524665
ABAYO retardchama

>>68524531
>>68524574
>They won't take Doki to court.
I wouldn't put it past them...

>>68524728
I report it under doxxing.

>>68524683
They already have no western support. The SEA sisters and the few chinese left wouldn't care if Anycolor had Doki put in prison.

>>68524574
>The suspected bullies will get revealed.
I don't think the bullies will not try to stop them.

>>68524812
>ban the only 100 retards that still use that subreddit
The place would die

>>68524821
Slowpokechama....

>>68524765
we heal and protect

>>68524765
ID4 as the unicorn gen
It would be boring if they're just another homocollaber gen. ID unicorn is still untapped market.

>>68524046
Explain the third largest vtuber group in the world? Nah I'm gonna let them cook.

>>68524498
Neither party will pursue legal action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9mKs6WuBKk
Kino incoming

>>68524730
>3-5k
Her return stream got 120k. Even the shark couldn't dream of those numbers now. Doki should easily be 30k+ from now on.

>>68524730
What I'm not sure about is what she's gonna do going forward, I didn't watch her stream so I don't know if she mentioned it but AFAIK in Niji she did a bunch of collabs and events because she had a stable roster of people to work with, but I'm not sure who she's gonna collab with as an indie with a controversial background? Like, obviously Niji will be off limits to her, and so will Holo, most EN indies are cancerous grifters, the small corpos are somehow even worse, is she just gonna stream Apex with her fleshfag esports boyfriends every day?

>>68523547
heh

nijigods won
now if we can only get rid of the rest of NijiEN it would be wonderful
Riku should focus on jp only

>doxxnigger
What's with this autismo? Did some of the subhuman tourists get stuck on their connecting flight or something? Go back...

>>68524636
Well for one, anyone who believes she will instantly drop down to where she was is retarded. This drama and the outpour of support just about everywhere should keep her at 5view level for some time. There’s always this level of interest the moment someone is back, like Haachama getting all those 10-20k’s upon returning.
Seeing as how putrid nijiEN is, I do think that in itself was debuffing her too. Her freedom might net a lot more eyes so I feel like she’s going to easily be a 5-10k ccv streamer for a while after that buff fades out but 3-4k is just way too low for how much eyes are on her now. It’d take an atstonomical effort to fall to that

>>68524574
>>68524844
>>68524855
They have no grounds to take her to court given that they already terminated her contract.
The only one that would have grounds to sue would be doki, for "wrongful termination of contract".

>>68524636
Kiara/Pippa tier maybe

I should've taken a screenshot but I swear Enna's last stream had like, 120+ comments and now its down to 64. Weird

>>68524605
Don't jinx it

Kek, Aqua bugged again

>>68524811
the only metric in which she mogs Kaela is ID mindshare
and we both know how much that is worth

>>68524862
Based leddit bros

>>68524937
should we rename the cripple tally to the "did dokibird stream today?" tally in that case?

>Asmongold video is more "idol culture bad" instead of "niji bad"

>>68524906
Stop hiding behind your equally trash jp branch you dumb faggot.

>>68524636
>palwo and other buff game
~10k
>apex
2k max

>>68524980
literally who

>>68524980
>dramanigger is dramanigging
no way!!!

>>68524728
Thanks, FWMC

>>68524980
doesnt matter, everyone who cares enough to give a view to vtubing already know nijisanji is a black company

>>68523547
stop posting this

>>68524942
She ruined the company's reputation by forcing them to write a hit piece and call her existence negligible.

Canada is mostly Asian, right? Why don't they have Asian laws about saving face?

Kfp...

>>68524657
Yes, we'll keep inclining, friend

>>68524937
not instantly but eventualy, Kson was the same thing.
I wouldn't bet on 10k by the end of the week.

>>68524890
Vshojo and friends the en vtuber scene is pretty split at the moment from twitch and youtube

>>68524980
nah, is more like "grr japanese bad", you know, racism
>>68524481
So it was the nijifags who did all the holocuckposting huh?

>>68524862
I'm on my phone and I can still see and interact with the post kek

>>68524481
Tbf unicorns are the easiest target if you want to farm (You)

>>68524987
>t. ennacuck

>>68523547
QRD

>>68524980
Good we need to stonewall harder especially e-celeb audience

>>68524937
3-4k isn't gonna be in the next week, God no.
Next month, maybe not.
But by the end of the year, barring events, I'm expecting that.

>>68525040
What blonde woman

>>68525040
Every time I see a kfp get posted I wonder how they live like this

>>68525040
This is what happen when the boss is not around to crack the whip

>>68524937
I still go at 3-4k after two weeks. She is alone. She has shit management. She has shit stream content selection.

>>68525083
Is she in japan?

>>68524937
I think you're overestimating how long the dramaniggers and white knights will stick around for. And while I like to shit on NijiEN too I definitely don't think her numbers were being nerfed by her being in what is ultimately one of the most well known agencies in the scene. This isn't like Pikamee going from fucking VOMS to Vshojo.

>>68524574
I was about to tell you to take meds, but then ... You know ... They tried (And FAILED) to take down dramafag ...

>>68525037
Mio holo when?

>>68525040
It's funny looking at the oshi marks since we know Ame and Kiara hate each other.

Is Doki the top EN vtuber now?

>>68525115 (me)
But it could take long forma de Salami.

>>68525040
Their timings don't really overlap

>>68525155
Is this gonna be your new angle, fag?

>>68524170
>Fantia (where she does erotic stuff)
How erotic...

>>68525083
That's what "removed" means. It leaves the index but continues existing

>>68525038
Canada is just America in denial+contrarianism. After being constantly bombarded by American media day in and day out along with sharing spaces with the "enlightened" civilizations, it is nigh impossible to instill any semblance oriental values outside of the customary traditions. Social cues will never pass muster.

>>68525155
2nd biggest after FWMC

>>68524852
Not to encourage brigading or anything but good work

>>68524730
I think it'll gradually go down like, for months/weeks after this debacle, she'll have at least around 20~30K until it fizzle out to those numbers

>>68525110
Ame

>>68525040
euros...

>>68525111
Every time I see a person with kfp in their name get posted I wonder if they are actually kfp

>>68525196
So holoEN won't win a single month for the rest of the year, then?

>>68524498

>>68525179
Yes. As long as you keep getting mad and interacting with me.

>>68525137
The only two girls in Hololive that hate each other are Okayu and Korone. They are so sick of keeping up the act. But the fans love it so they keep it going.

>>68525092
It's the old gag about the VERSEn girl that supposedly had to choose between them and the VR Ping Pong company offering her the role of
>Ha-ku-i Koyori

>>68525155
Yes. And tomorrow, if she does not stream, anyone else will take the cripple gold.

>>68525249
Why they hate each other?

>>68525214
lol yeah that too

>>68525040
No Kiara around = KFP get more retarded unity-brained. Boss bird needs to come back ASAP and kick these chucklefucks to the usual room for a few weeks.

>>68525243
hot, now wear a dress for me

>>68525249
Pekomiko..

>>68525155
she is the biggest one for sure

>>68524890
this is why i think VSPO EN is the only realistic way for her to do things she used to do in NijiEN, since they already have other EN branches under the Brave umbrella she can invite if she wants.

>>68525285
cats and dogs

>>68524980
This is typical twitchfag brainrot. For how popular hololive is, it’s incredibly isolated to youtube and its viewers that the only things twitchtards know and hear are from seething pagpags and twitch whores. Not even a joke. I’m pretty sure the only things known from the rushia scandal was “they got mad and kicked her out because she was dating someone” like they’re actually retarded and have zero ability to get educated because the people who make content are niji shills and retards like depressed nousagi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRTnPoFuRvc
>holoshitters already leeching

>>68524874
So Mooms really did get back on college after she drop out for like a year for her Hololive job, good for her to have a plan B

>>68525285
They got married

>>68524170
>she quit her job yet her income has tripled
What is the fucking point of nijisanji?

>>68525285
Dog and cat

>>68524657

Okay chat, guesses on which NijiEN organs are thinking of trying to get fired and having an explosive RM comeback like Doki? You just know those motherfuckers are thinking about it

>>68524980
My problem with that is he talks shit but doesn't have a solution. Fucko, why don't you tell me what mythical group of vtubers has clean management that I should watch instead. If you don't have any recommendations, go make such a corp before you even think about chiming in. I'd like for him to see how hard managing vtubers can be.

>>68525285
Korone fondled Okayu one too many times and the catto got mad she wouldn't go any further
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8oUgIvfCwI

KORONETOMOS WILL CERTAINLY NOT DEFEND THIS!

>>68525329
Nigger VSPO EN is a retarded idea from the same Brave Group that's responsible for a million similar flops. If it ever actually becomes a thing it will be a complete failure.

Which Holo girl would make me dino nuggies (with bbq dip) and chocolate milk for dinner?

>Error: You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating /vt/ 2 - No Real Life.
>This block will expire in 15 minutes.
Mr. janitor. I believe you are wrongly deleting my post and asking me to get banned because it actually doesn't violate that rule:
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL")
Natsumi Moe is a vtuber, not a real life person. The rule shouldn't protect fictional characters.

>>68525181
Slighly more lewd then Not Noel

>Dokibird return stream 120k
>shark return stream 40k
They're not even in the same league.

>>68525135
we have Mio at home

>>68525390
No NijiEN organ could make this ever happen.
No one was cared about by people who matter as much as Selen.
Anyone else who tries won't have an audience big enough to make the critical mass occur.

>>68525040
KFP do themselves no fucking favors. Their only redeeming quality is they support their oshi but that's a low fucking bar for vtuber fans.

>>68525354
Her income has tripled because she started doing porn lol

>>68525339
nothing in this clip is about doki but the retarded clipper had to shove her in anyway

>gets ganked for being a retard
>gets ganked for evading
True rule 2 working as intended

>>68525420
What are you gonna do, sue him?

>>68525155
The biggest one for sure. Get it? I'm saying Doki fat.

>>68525354
To ruin vtubing so hololive doesn't become a religion

>>68525329
The EN are literal 2views. I don't think she'll have trouble finding 2views to collab with. No western company will blacklist her. I think it's More likely VSPO would decline to hire her than Holo would blacklist her either

>>68525475
Not evading. The block expired right now. I hope a mod doesn't ban me because it would be unjust since I didn't actually violate the rule.

>Doki almost at 500k already
She's going to overtake the botdogs in a week.

>>68525443
120k dramafags vs 40k pedophiles

what happened? why cover'stock is falling harder than the black company that having a meltdown eventhough their financial report was good? do investors tired of this fad

>>68525523
The true rule 2? Of course you did

>>68525354
To get famous in the first place

>>68525115
Her management apparently is the crem de la crem in the esports scene. She's be better supported for the content she wants to make and will be able to tap into the western fps market in a way vtubers haven't been able to yet.
And then vspo will come with their 11 million dollars.

>>68525040
What a fucking snake

>>68525037
Come on anon it wasn't even a credible rrat. Someone only came up with it because the groups debuted one week apart.

>>68525528
I love this nijikeks deflection posts lol

>>68524980
Fuck off, faggot. Kill yourself.

>>68525420
You really aren't very intelligent are you

>>68525546
>ESL
>Dumbest shit I've read so far
Every time.

>>68525443
>They're not even in the same league.
In terms of drama generation, yes.

>>68525546
Carrying Wantendly with them kek
>or it is just regular intra day variation?

>>68525155
I know I always judge vtubers by their top stream and constantly reference it to shit on others, even after it's been years since they were able to hit that high.

>>68525546

>>68525562
imagine if the shark gets another 3D live and doki decides to mog it by playing apex or something on the same day.

>>68525440
Oh, so she basically went full camwhore, of course she's going to make a fuckton more money if she's not getting milked by a corpo and is at least mildly attractive.

>>68525546
The financial report came at close lol

>>68525600
Based Reinaposter

>>68525523
Hello Eileen. Can you please rope yourself?

>>68525338
He claimed people not owining their characters is ilegal, and doesnt know why would anyone accept it.
>you get a huge audience built on the company reputation from day 1
>you get events and network in the company
>get models / outfits
People would kill to join if the company is good, like in hololive.

>>68525311
NTA but put on female underwear too

prediction for cover stock tomorrow?
can it hit 3k?

>>68525632
She got nice tits for an asian

>>68525460
Not if they succeed where she failed. You know what to do Aster.

>>68525546
Why are you setting up a grudgepost? Their financials just got released.

>>68525464
Nah, true diehard KFP also actually put their money where their mouth is, and Kiara has an outsized sales profile relative to her viewership, but unfortunately KFP on social media are also by far the most annoyingly unity of any HoloEN fanbase.

>>68525226
probably

>>68524170
>Fantia (where she does erotic stuff)
link?

SHUT UP MONGOLOIDS!
>Haachama is unveiling something ... New OP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbssbfxuSoI

>>68524980
The worse thing nijisanji ever did was bring in these retards that think idol culture is still getting your head shaved after fucking up. I guarantee these people dont even watch streams but they'll continue to talk shit.

>>68525546
>financial report
Oh yea that came out, did they hide the homostars again?

>>68525688
>You know what to do Aster.
sigh

>>68525746
I'll check it out later, I'm a bit busy
https://live.fc2.com/68548167/

>>68525390
They are already saw that nobody cares about them with the witch hunt that's happening right now
None of them have any mindchair in the holobox and they know it

My friends, it has often been said that I like war.

My friends, I like war...

No, friends, I love war!

I love all out wars.

I love invisible wars.

I love college girl wars.

>>68525523
The rule is, if the janny thinks you're breaking the rule, or just doesn't like you, then you broke the rule.

>>68525546
I almost want to laugh here cause what even is the logic?
>Nijisanji drama: People buy in more
>Cover seeing good financial result: People sell

>>68525751
>Advent broke records and revitalized EN!
>Armis debut
Prettt funny

>>68525681
Well, there ya go, the devil's in the details when it comes to these sorts of things...

>>68525746
>>68525773
I think it's a new song

>>68525746
costume probably
videoke at the start huh

Damn what is this? Chama Kingdom?

>>68525657
Rich people live in their own bubble and spout shit they know nothing about, a tale as old as rhyme.

>>68525751
They didn't hide the homos but did hide their numbers of course

>>68525751
>homo EN reached 10 members!
DORRRYYAAAAA

>>68525651
rratbooty

>>68525740
paywalled, fag

>>68525546
We are talking about a difference of 15 and 30 Yen, respectively.
Do you realize how much that is?
15 Yen is 10 cents.
30 Yen is 20 cents.

>Numbers
https://majeur.zawarudo.org/virtuelles/res/1557072.html

>>68525751
>Only 2 mentions of Holostars

>>68525750
It doesn't even make fucking sense to bring up idol culture. Nijisanji doesn't even advertise itself as an idol company nor do their vtubers advertise themselves as idols.

>>68525681
NotNoel or the other one?

>>68525554
Any NijiEN in the past year or so that could be even remotely considered famous? Well, I guess Aster is getting his spotlight right now.

>>68525814
forgor pic

>>68525805
>>68525635

>>68525812
Surely she wouldn't have a surprise outfit reveal....

>>68525805
The financial result is released after the trading closed though.
Expect a huge spike tomorrow.
There was this one guy who seems to be shorting Cover stock posting his shit.

>>68525854
Some fag in chat mentioned kpop idols which set him off lol

>>68525751
HolostarsEN managements to expand to 10 whole members, an impressive achievement (nevermind that they lost 2 members tho)

I wonder how many holoEN members tried begging Doki for a collab today.

Big ass 16yr old Haachama milkers...

>>68525866
Me in the back, hiding with my neck intac-
>oink

>>68525751
They brag about Tempus 3 debut. Expect Tempus 4 soon

>427k subs
>1m views
daaaaamn

>>68525852
ID4 and EN4 will replace this image next financial report

>>68525954
holoENshitter status?

is aqua colourblind?

How can she be THIS CUTE?!

>>68525854
Retards like him think that every vtuber corpo is an idol company

>>68525994
no, she's just dumb

>>68525852
Jesus that's bad, trying to use advents success to prop them up

>>68525967
Phasenigger status still sucking small fishman dick

>>68525852
>Advent debut
>THEY GOT 2.2 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS
>Armis debuted
>they are vtubers, they use live2d to stream ummmmmmm there are now 10 homos ummmmmm they speak english
the poor intern struggled with that small parragraph

>>68525920
Zero

>>68524170
Nijis can't run a fantia under anycolor?

>>68525957
Why would Cover bother debuting new EN members when the current ENs regularly get mogged by both Youtube and Twitch indies?

>>68526022
Not really, the only mention of them was
>they exist
>there are 10 of them now

Ok but think about it, if Vesper and Magni didn’t fucked off. There would be as many HomoEN as HoloEN at this point, and it would look embarrassing

>>68526039
no RM stuff of any kind unless you're kuzuha

Tick tock

>>68525751
>The number of HOLOSTARS English grew to 10

>>68526050
There would be more considering they're 100% gonna do Armis 2 before EN4

>>68525957
Cover HAS to debut ID4 or EN4 in 2024 because otherwise they will have jack shit to show off to the investors in their FY2025 reports.

[cute news] Aku-tan managed to solve the train puzzle

>>68525440
Kemono?

>>68526022
>Advent got 2M total subs!!
>Holostars has 10 members now!!

>>68524890
>but I'm not sure who she's gonna collab with as an indie with a controversial background
Everyone sides with her over niisanji though.

Was luxiem the nft of vtubers?

>>68526087
Shiori still sub 500k???? the fuck??

>>68526041
This must be a tough week for you sis
especially since Luca's probably gone now too

>>68526087
kek, I missed "tick tock" posting

>>68524890
>>68525329
But is her name recognition and connections enough to get a group setup under her irrespective of where she goes? I'm honestly thinking that Brave might risk the fall out if it means that they can get a foothold on the international competitive scene. Not that it would amount to much given that vtubers are kind of non-starter in the west due to past controversies involving cheating (unrelated to vtubers).

Also, she's not with XSET, right? Was the business email in her xitter profile a coincidence?

>>68526107
Sankisei big project definitely go into next quarter seeing how much Cover is going to shill it

Let's talk about patterns.

There was a NijiJP liver named Moruru who left the company in 2019. The exact circumstance surrounding her retirement aren't well known, but the rumor back in the day was that she suffered bullying from within her gen. Those rumors have never been substantiated; most people at time chose to believe that Moruru had personal issues committing to a streamer identity, that she had a history of false starts under various accounts, and dismissed the idea of bullying. Her career after leaving Nijisanji has not born out the idea that the problem was with her.

Then there was the Yuzuki Roa vs Kingyozaka Miero drama in 2020. Roa accused Miero of copying elements of her persona; Miero accused Roa of harassing her over the issue through private messages. The organization took Roa's side in the conflict and instructed Miero to change her character to be less like Roa. Miero ended up being terminated for breaking NDAs. Miero lost most of her credibility do to the NDA violation, as well as accusations of other kinds of misconduct in her past, and her claims about bullying were largely overshadowed.

When Zaion left the company last year, Anycolor presented a termination statement similar to the one they would later give for Selen, outlining that she had repeatedly broken the company's guidelines since her debut etc etc. The person behind Zaion released her own document describing the mismanagement, double standards and unfair practices she witnessed while working with Nijisanji. She described how she wasn't allowed to do things other livers could because of her background as an independent streamer. She has also talked about feeling betrayed by the other livers in her group, that livers had turned a blind eye to her mistreatment, and at least one of them has made damaging accusations against Zaion's character on stream (possibly at the company's behest). She felt that people she had once considered her friends had stabbed her in the back. And just like Selen, Zaion contemplated ending her life.

In each of these situations, fans of Nijisanji reacted by placing the blame on the person leaving the company, and refused to acknowledge the possibility of wrongdoing on the part of the other livers. In Zaion's case they accused her of lying about her situation and gaslighting her fellow livers, readily believing those who remained loyal to the company. All the claims about the abuse Zaion suffered were overwhelming dismissed- until everything she described happened to Selen.

Anycolor seems to have a history of favoritism and turning their talents against each other. They fail to mediate conflicts between the talents when disputes occur, they enforce their rules unequally from person to person, and they either tolerate or encourage talents smearing individuals who have displeased the company. What Selen called the toxic environment that drove her to making an attempt on her life was not limited to the management alone. I cannot believe it happened without any complicity from the other talents, unless dokibird talks about it again and says so her self.

People don't want to acknowledge this, they don't want to believe that one of the streamers they like and support might have played a role in driving a girl to end herself. But this is a real possibility, and it's not even the first time it has happened.

>>68526096
Sugoi

>>68526142
I mean, yeah?
Have you ever watched her?

>>68526175
EN4 SOON™