/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68510819
Hooties

>>68511602
Alouettes

>>68511691
Is that french for backstabber?

Apparently Doki's stream was the 4th biggest EN stream of all time.

>>68511721
I keked

>>68511580
Suspecks
Hoomens
I like suspecks over freebird.
Or Dokimins

>>68511733
>Hoomens
Something tells me this one might not be accepted

Doki is a thief. Let's just be "thiev3s" or something. If you wanna be corny, we can be "treasures" or some other thing that refers to valuables.

Just make it freebirds!!

>>68511733
She doesn't want anything with doki in it

begone freebirdsbeggars

Lot of bird names...

>>68511733
Nightingales

>>68511802
No, it just doesn't work. Freebird sounds so...plain

>>68511602
Hooman here
I uhhhhh
Don't think you want that one
Hooties are a bit of a known entity in /who/

Lot of bird names... I clicked the wrong image

we wouldnt be having this naming problem if we had a 3K lore video to go off of

I fell asleep on the couch after the stream and had the most vivid dream I can remember having where I was fingering Doki while embracing her as she played games on my PC and woke up with my cat sleeping on my chest.

Did I miss something?

Freebirds fucking sucks.
I’d rather it take literal months for us to come up with a good name instead of being stuck with FREEBIRDS.

>>68511879
Sounds like you fingered your cat in your sleep, anon

>>68511879
you were fingering your cat in your sleep

>>68511879
>Did I miss something?
Not much, just waiting for an schedule
Also I wish I had those types of dreams

>>68511860
Doki and Mumei could open Twin Roosts

>>68511580
missed the shop url going live https://dokiworks.com
>unrelated
no posts about cheeps or peeps, docheeps/peeps being the obvious, but I'm too cooked to think of others

Aviators
And have all the fans wear the glasses.

>>68511602
She can't use hooties, it's already taken.
t. hooman

Birdglars or Beakons?

>>68511957
Mr. Man, your shop broke again...

>>68511906
>>68511910
>>68511879

>>68511757
but doki is our treasure anon

>>68511879
I wish I could have more horny dreams about chuubas. Closest I got was mating pressing Ina in the streets.

Doki's blue footed boobies!~

How about the titbirds?

>>68511984
Beakooons.

>>68511580
You know.. I listened to some of her older streams.. she used to sound not as deep, did her voice simply deepen with age?

Bird Up

>>68511984
also, as a liggerman with 987283947324 chat mascots under his belt, birdglars is god awful to say. beakons or suspecks stand out to me as the best so far

>>68511964
BASED

>>68512042
Hell yeah, what's going on muh coons?

How was the stream? Any juicy bits?

>>68511957
merch site updated
https://dokimerch.com/

>>68512061
you reminded me of this image

>>68512082
Maybe watch it instead of drama fishing
No, there's nothing juicy except her fat tits

>>68512086
probs not legit, use
https://43d9b2-2.myshopify.com

What about instead of B-Birds, it was D-Birds?

>>68511967
>>68511860
How is it taken?

Barknights -> Robbins/Knightwings
Pure kino

>>68511733
I personally vote for wingmen

Today I reposted the Hyte announcement tagging Family Mart and 7Eleven. And later Koshien too.

>>68512115
Anon
When you follow that link what does it say in your address bar

>>68512152
I'm not clicking that shit nigger

>>68511933
>>68512014
Thanks. I was worried because the thread was moving so fast earlier. As for the dreams, they are pretty rare for me too.

>>68511906
>>68511910
I did wake at one point and gave her a good rub.

>>68512162
I'm talking about the one you posted, retard

>>68511733
Freebird is so corny. Thank god she's too based for that cheesy crap.

>>68512056
no dude, she just stopped hamming it up.
But i mean don't let me break your immersion.
Just like Henya.

>>68512180
oh, shit.. well disregard my post I suck cocks

>>68512086
>https://dokimerch.com/
i found a canadian address on the whois contact and got excited
it was fucking tucows though lmao

>>68512086
thanks for the update, I checked the dokiworks, but not the other way around

>>68512123
Hooties are the undesirable humans
Disgusting creatures

>>68512121
Not bad, it rolls well actually

>>68512201
hot

BEAKONS

BARN OWLS

>>68512152
>>68512162

If it redirects to dokimerch
your already fucked

>>68512330
Oh no
I'm dokidone

>>68512330
see >>68512201

>>68511580
Beautiful Blonde Princess!

We lost...

>>68512303
What’s the pun with beakons? When I hear it I think of the word deacon.

They're going to collab, right?

>>68512361
Cons, as in convicts, I assume

>>68512369
No one wants to touch those damaged goods

Doki should join Phase Invaders so we can get the 100k sub feet reveal

>>68512369
I see no problem.

>>68512350
BBP > BBC
>>68512361
birds have beaks, we're the light in her life and she's the light in ours

Praise the Big Beautiful Doki Booba!

>>68512382
I still like the earlier suggestion for Robbins

what is the tomato lore

>>68512398
>birds have beaks, we're the light in her life and she's the light in ours
Oh that makes sense too I guess. I was thinking con-artist, fitting with the thief theme.

>>68512361
Someone is testing if Selen actually played palworld or if she just grinded levels like a dummy for 72 hours.

>>68512369
Maybe one day.

>>68512430
All of the tomato lore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Hgb2MZ-Q

>>68512369
Doki wants to stay out of drama and move on so no

>>68512384
Anon, this is vtubing. Everyone is damaged. If they weren't, they wouldn't be in this field.

>>68512123

>>68512369
Hell no, she likely hates Sayu

>>68512369
The collab that will make flocked with Dramanigs
They will reveal nothing and make them listen Yaoi tangents

>>68512361
beacon
beak
also pw as above

>>68512369
>Will openly talk about private conversations for clout

Haha NO, there's a reason people ain't rocking with her, dude

>>68512506
kek imagine the seethe

>>68512494
I doubt it. She never showed any hint of that while at Nijisanji. Plus they can now both bond over being terminated for bullshit reasons.

>>68512408
>>68512481
>>68512532
PRAISE!

>>68512506
Blueballing dramanigs is very funny so this gets my vote!

>>68512430
welcome to the farm children.
also, new tomato lore just dropped. check it out!
https://files.catbox.moe/hy5qxy.mp4

>>68512506
Nvm, thats actually genious.

>>68512369
All the ex livers are doing their own thing now, but she's still chasing that niji drama every chance she can get
Other livers were either silent or released very small statements regarding Selen. Sayu jumped into that shit and tried to make it about her
She can stay irrelevant

do you guys think the $200k was worth it? i did feel like she grew a lot in the last year.

>>68512466
The one thing I learned from this is that any time she kisses you, she will follow it up by blowing some cool air onto the spot so that you really feel the wetness

>>68512641
Yes!
>
The concert was kino as fuck and the artist got treated and payed well by her
Now that you mention it... we never got to see the outfit that was made by fans...

>>68512641
That was a long term investment. Her channel was growing a lot through last year with all the fun events, and a lot of the videos that came out of the money were well liked and monetized. The problem is that her long term investment got fucked by nijisanji. Also, that she shouldn't have had to foot the bill for any of these events, as pointed out by Mr Man.

>>68512652
fucking hot

it still fucks me up thinking that she actually tried to kill herself. when i was younger i was about to attempt and my mom caught me and i owned up to it. I was hospitalized for a week. i still feel like im living on borrowed time. i was really really hoping that the suicide/self harm rrats weren't true. please be kind to her forever. depression and suicidal tendencies have a way of creeping back up on you even when you feel like you are in a better place. and doki if you are /here/ for some bizarre reason just know that i will be grateful every day that you are still with us. sorry for blogging just need to get this out there

>>68512779
Dragoon...

>>68512227
went archive diving for it, but it was posted without source and hasn't been mentioned since, even went back to the start of #dokigallery and it's not there

>Doki didn't bother to clarify if the bullying was done by the management or the livers
LET THE HUNGER GAMES CONTINUE

>>68512779
Between all the various ex talents crying with relief when they find out they are not "nothing without the company" and people support them for who they are, I think she'll be fine going forwards. Those environments have a way of exacerbating any tendencies you have. She affirmed multiple times that she is who she is and nobody can take it away from her now. She won't take it away from herself, she's found her strength now, even if she stumbles and questions, hopefully she'll never be that far into the dark again.

>>68512856
Seeing as there's lawyers involved, she really can't say anything until the situation is resolved.

I just watched the debut, nice to see she's still laughing and is motivated to do more events
How are you guys feeling?

>>68512196
Well I didn't know.. I was just a bit confused when I listened to Dokibird's earlier streams. I didn't consider she was just playing her voice up and making it higher.

>>68512779

>>68512369
I'm sure they will, but not in the way the dramafags would like it. Doki wants to move on, and that's something that Sayu desperately needs to do too, so I can imagine them bonding a little over that.

>>68512894
She will be ok, but I hope she ends up valuing herself beyond that. Even if she lost her career by getting fired, she should still be nice to herself

>>68512903
Blessed, I missed her so much

>>68512894
>She affirmed multiple times that she is who she is and nobody can take it away from her now.
it's so weird how these anime-like character growth/development arcs happen on stream. i went my whole life w/o experiencing anything like this

So when should we expect a stream, again? The last 48 hours have been so crazy I'm not processing info. I remember her saying collabs next week for sure and I know LNY in a few days. Did she say anything for before that?

>>68512844
dude i hate search engines now.
theres a way to find it through reverse image search, but you need to disable google lens and its a whole thing.

>>68513049
think she said stream on friday and schedule next week

>>68513025
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

>>68513049
mumei just announced a collab w/ an unknown partner tomorrow. timing just fits given the circumstances (and mooms is supposed to be on break)

>>68513143
I think it's been established that will be Haato

>>68513080
even then, everything's so walled garden now that search is just fucked and of course those gardens won't implement their own reverse image searches because fuck us right

>>68512369
I can’t remember them even interacting in Niji, and they have completely different games that they stream. Is this just Sayu’s remaining fans or just dramafags trying to drag her back into being relevant?

>>68513025
It depends on your mindset and attitude towards life as well. For some people they slowly and surely drift into the best version of themselves, consciously or not. For most people we just do whatever and barely change at all, so it takes life-changing incidents happening in our life to jolt us out of the autopilot and make us think about shit more seriously.

>>68512779
yeah it's fucked. Niji threw their other talents under the bus to deflect and it worked, now instead of talking about the fact that we almost lost a life everyone is playing amongus trying to find the bully or dramafagging about stock prices and twitter reactions. The fact that a person could have died and was then cruelly silenced and shoved under the rug should be the main point here, it can't be memoryholed like niji wants.

As a tourist, I didn't fully appreciate that we could have lost her smile forever until watching her stream earlier. It's hard to imagine in another world I wouldn't have been laughing with her tonight or ever. I will kneel until the end of time as penance for losing sight of whats important.

Minecraft with dokibirb...

>>68513245
I don't think niji is the corporate mastermind you're crediting them as, here
If they were actually smart they would have taken her up on the offer to leave neutrally

>>68512903
Finally in peace, that month was terrible fo me.

>>68513192
Didn't she get fucked by niji before the collab embargo even ended? Regardless, I don't watch her streams. What are they like nowadays?

>>68513313
Do you think she will play with her members, even if she doesn't stream? I love the idea of interacting with her there. I realize it will just be a flood of people on the server attention whoring 24/7. But maybe I can just make something cool that she will love. That would be enough

>>68513245
>As a tourist, I didn't fully appreciate that we could have lost her smile forever until watching her stream earlier.
I could only tune in for the first hour or so, but it wasn't until you mentioned this that I realized that not only had I stayed up until 4 in the morning for her, but I also laughed quite a bit and slept peacefully afterwards. We really do take life's best gifts for granted sometimes.
I'm glad she's alive.

ohnononono…

>>68513313
all i want left in life is a notpomu and doki minecraft collab
those were my favorite streams back in the day

>>68513368
this is too abstract for me. someone dumb it down please?

>>68513354
I mean she did when she was indie. She would spend too much time in a short spurt building autism farms, then get burnt out and never touching it for the next 6 months... occasionally visiting for stream content.

>>68513399
no more selen means we are no longer dragoons, now we are nuggets or whatever the fuck she ends up picking

>>68512779
Don't worry, I'll always make sure that she knows that she's loved! I'll never take her for granted ever again, and I'll never complain about any collabs she might do with Apex "Pros" ever again, either (I still don't like those Apex "Pros", but I'm not going to let that get in the way of making sure my Oshi never falls down into an abyss of darkness ever again, and I won't let that get in the way of enjoying my Oshi's streams, either!)! No more bad vibes, only good ones!

Different company, same energy

>>68513333
Sayu? All I hear is things about her playing gatcha and sleeping streams. I assume she also plays horror and and flavor of the month stuff like most vtubers, since those were a part of her short Niji career.

>>68512270
I like it but I doubt she'll choose it.
Then again in order for her to choose it she'll need to see it and I also doubt she'll see it.

>>68513444
All I can think of with WWE now is how Vince shit on that girl's head

>>68512779
>>68513437(me)
Also, I hope that you're in a better headspace these days, Bro!

>>68513245
Imagining the hypothetical universe where she didn't make it is horrifically depressing. Imagine the fucking fallout, the grief, hate, finger-pointing, industry-wide mourning and shame, everything.

>>68512196
it's also the case that as someone uses their voice a lot for a long period of time it begins to change, most people don't speak constantly for hours multiple times a week the way a streamer might

>>68513368
AAAIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
We are becoming KFPs...

>>68513464
It's thread related

>>68513464
Bro, don't get me started on that. He told her how he wanted her to "get fucked by three big Black Dicks, in all three of her holes" and how he "wanted to turn her over and cum all over her" when they were done with her.

>>68513536
My voice got irreversibly fucked from working on a call center. I started with a voice customers called "handsome" with flirting here and there and nowadays i get called "ma'am". FUCK. So, yeah, I can easily see streaming changing people's boices over the years.

>>68513599
Holy based

>>68513582
>her top-tier banter partner is gone
I don't know if I can ever recover from this...

can I get a timestamp for shachi mention please?

>>68513445
>All I hear is things about her playing gatcha and sleeping streams.
Nope, she plays mostly JRPG, tactics games and anything that looks fun. She even finished RE4R recently.

>>68513674
it's like 50% of the stream where she talks about watching movies with a friend

>>68513366
she deserves everything we can give her and more. she is a genuine gem, if im being honest with myself i was there just out of curiosity to hear her statement on the termination but by the end i'd laughed for 2 hours and my cheeks were sore from smiling and didn't even care anymore. i guess i never fully realized what we almost lost until tonight.
i too am glad she made it and she's going to move on with positivity.

I should be going to bed soon but I don't want to leave in case the store opens

>>68513519
I don't think it's depressing at all, and that thinking like that is rather wishful. Not that I am wishing death on someone but it could realistically have happened, so I'm not even gonna use the word 'imagine' here. Lots of things built up to the incident and it's only a symptom of the problem. If someone is negatively affected from the fallout that is their own issue.

It's like binging on unhealthy food every day and having an unhealthy lifestyle and one day you go into cardiac arrest in a mcdonalds and the ambulance gets there in time and your life is saved, and after all that you're like "hoo boy, imagine if I died, anyway back to my unhealthy lifestyle"

>>68512779
You're not the only here who's been through that anon. It's...I want to say it's hell, but that somehow feels like it's understating it. I know what it's like to be at the end of things and wanting to just end it all. I hope you're in a much better place now. I almost didn't make it a decade ago, but somehow I'm still here. I got called a dramabaiting faggot back in December for being concerned that she might've tried to, Yet I have no regrets because most people here don't actually know what it's like to be in that mindspace. Fuck anyone who tries to downplay it. They have no idea what it's like to want to hurt yourself, to want to end it all. Be happy she's still around and continues on and support her the best you can. Any support she gets right now will help her move on and become stronger, and remember that she makes so many people smile, that she's an amazing person who deserves to be happy, that she means so much to so many people, and that it's always her, no matter what name it's been under.

>>68513674
https://youtu.be/J2YmJL0PX5M?t=5514
>>68513692
lolno it was like 5%. maybe 10

>>68512641
marine is probably the biggest spender in hololive in terms of MVs and somehow selen out spent her.
a random media studies major can probably make better use of that cash in terms of viral marketing.

>>68513720
>68513720
everything is pre-order except the bundle which has 100 stock, you wont miss out unless you want her signature

>>68513685
>There's a game named Re4r
I bet it's ass.

>>68513795
>you wont miss out unless you want her signature
Yes anon
I want her signature

>>68513822
just use the shopify scraper bot if you want to make sure you get it when it drops

>>68513822
well, shit, have a nap because I don't think Mr. Man will sort it in the next few hours, Doki also said she'd give some notice (twitter?) before it went up

Mr. Man is starting to look like inspector gadget in my mind.

>>68512779
The fact the we almost lost her will haunt me for the rest of my life. It's 4am here and I couldn't sleep because of the thought of what would happen if she actually died.

>>68512779
You're not alone anon. I almost jumped from a bridge in 2020 after covid completely destroyed my life, in a way it was vtubers that helped keep my sane at that time. We should never take these girls for granted, we have to protect their smiles too. I hope you're doing better now <3

>>68511580
>/HAHA/
Mommy...?

>>68513908
Are we really gonna look like marshmellow peeps?

>>68513620
She'll be back soon enough, she actually is taking japanese classes in japan. In a way Selen getting terminated was the only way they'd ever collab again. Maybe they can do stuff occasionally as indies, since I know them being in the same org again is kind of a pipe dream.

>>68513967
ハハ not 母 you silly retard. Your mom isn't coming home
but doki can be your new mommy

>>68512779
Jesus anon...

Doki, if you're here, let me quote a Canadian band to summarize what we all feel.

I stayed in time and watch you pass by
I draw this line and hope you'll take my side
You shouldn't have to fight alone
It's nobody's battle but your own

>>68513822
Ganbare anon. I missed Mumei's 2022 birthday merch signed bundle by seconds and it lives rent free in my head to this day, especially since I use that merch daily.

>>68513720
don't worry, you can buy the stuff from me after i buy out the whole store, for 10x the price.

>>68514020
Thanks for the well wishes anon. I'll give my hand signed mumei card a rub for you as thanks

>>68514002
I don't know but I can't help but doompost about it... I should focus on what's apparent and positive right now...

>>68514038

>>68513810
I mean, I get the joke, but I feel the need to point out that it stands for resident evil 4 remake

>>68514007
Thanks, but I'll wait for her new incarnation with bated excitement before I'll get truly committed. Doki is more of a sister type anyway.

>>68512844
Thanks for trying to look for it, Bro!

>>68513763
Gonna be honest, I have no idea what the hell you're trying to say here anon

>>68514076
>new incarnation
You're gonna be waiting a long, long time anon

>>68514006
I kneel Alexisonfire anon

>>68514082
I miss my Yacht Selen, I miss it a lot

>>68514082
>this document has been translated from the Japanese original

>>68514106
I can wait. Never watched Selen or Niji anyway, so that's why I'm extra interested if this could be a beginning.

>>68514082
Jesas...

>>68514138

So she has like 10 vods on her channel but is there any archive of her old stuff?

>>68514063
I think that's kind of natural due to current events, your mind is going to go to near-worst case scenarios since that's what's been happening. It could be a while before Pomu gets back to streaming though. In the meantime, Selen has usually done a good job when picking streaming partners, getting people that she gets along with and are also entertaining. So it should work out in the short term and the long term.

>>68514224
Unfortunately no, most of her older stuff was on Twitch as far as I'm aware

>>68514041
I'm seething. Hope you're enjoying it you lucky bastard. That merch drop was one of the best vtuber merch bundles ever, I use all of the items often. Even the pencil case, I use it as a makeup bag and regularly get compliments on it from my normie friends

I saw Kai Saikota in her chat earlier and thought it's kinda cool that she's also a tomboy dragon. I'd love to see them together but Doki is probably booked with collabs for months, with all her old buddies...

>>68514194
>rat is dying while IRyS just watch
No...

>>68514224
Twitch is the destroyer of vods. People who love twitch like to argue that it is super easy to archive your vods. But, it doesn't matter because basically nobody ever does it.

>>68514122
Glad you recognized.
If I hadn't fucked my career choices and actually pursued animation, I would have made a Selen video with that song as a way to give tribute.
The songs lyrics describes Selen to a tee.
For those who don't know, the song is called "To A Friend".

>>68512856
Niji's BS anyway for mentioning that to smokescreen for themselves. Now that I think of it, I think they propagated the clique shite so that they can turn it into smokescreen. Wouldn't put it past those villains.

>>68514310
it's never too late anon, I'm learning to draw right now

I want to have sex with Doki's diagonal mouth.

>>68514422
Heh, same
I wonder if she will get a better version of her avatar in the future

X be like: white washing

>>68514310(me)
If AI animation has progressed far enough to be serviceable, I might make an anniversary tribute animation a year from now and post it here, because I don't think I wanna post it at twitter or YouTube.
Or I can just start learning animation instead of using AI. Who knows?

>>68514310
They really do right now anon, they really do...

>>68514443
I hope she keeps the sidemouth.

>>68514259

>>68512779
>>68513777
I know you’re just faceless anons I’ll never truly meet, but I’m glad to have you guys around, honestly. This place can be shockingly genuine and sweet when it wants to be, it gives me a sort of hope in the world

>>68514259
>>68514473
Just reread and saw you said pencil case and realized we're talking about 2 different years lol, oh well

>>68513935
<3

>>68512856
The fact that she didn't clarify is itself a heavy suggestion that it was other livers. There's no way she wouldn't respond to that allegation if it wasn't true.

>>68513935
At the same time tho, we should never control them like some sectors in my company fandom do

>>68514410
I'll see what happens.
After everything that happened with her, I have so many pent up emotions that I need an outlet. I want her to know man.
I'm fucked up right now.

>>68514422
>>68514443
>>68514462
I'm actually really worried she's gonna be missing the sassy smug aura in the new one

Any other companies KRSJ collabed with so I can tag em with #SINKTHEYACHT?

>>68514477
Just because this board is overall shit doesn't mean there nobody here who genuinely cares about things, however small a minority it might feel like.

>>68514277
It's funny, cos I discovered that Vtuber recently, and thought that her design was really cool! I think Doki would get along with her really well!

She said she wanted to hit 500k subs by the end of the year. Bitch you getting that by the end of the month.

Ngl i still feel a pang on my chest seeing dragoon artworks like this, it's honestly one of the best fanbase design out there, and it has variety too, i just wanna gobble every single art there was of dragoons

>>68512779
I wasn't a dragoon but this situation really hits me hard. Just the fact she could have actually died... Its too fucking real...
The way Niji handled it just makes me feel sick, the way people are fighting over the wrong things when we should be focusing on mental health.
I just want to protect her any way I can.

>>68514774
I saw one redesigned that made the snoot into a beak and some other little tweaks. But probably can't use it.

>>68514547
>There's no way she wouldn't respond to that allegation if it wasn't true.
That's pretty much my take. She could have easily said that the talents are blameless, but she chose to stay silent and let Niji continue playing Among Us.

Someone should warn Doki about the CCP maliciously doxing vtubers on Bilibili please. They just recently posted a bulletin doxing vtubers like Hanser and saying "Happy Chinese New Year" at the bottom of their government IDs

>>68514885
She even came out and said the line
>d-dont harass any talent!!
so it's not like she forgot about it or something. It's pretty much confirmed. That said, barring any leaks it's probably going to be some between years and eternity before we get the whole story, so the narrative is essentially over.

>>68514885
It's possible that she got advice from her lawyer to not add a single thing. The whole livers thing was a fire that Nijisanji started themselves. I'm sure she doesn't want the ones she likes to get hurt by it, But I'm sure Niji would pounce on anything that she might say that's new, so it'd be unreasonably risky.

>>68514874
I also realized this when i tuned into that rpr stream, he was really upset that niji only cared for their reputation and not selen's wellbeing, a human life

>>68514082
This is perfect lmao

>>68514473
>>68514517
That's a nice moom regardless

>>68515032
But she did add things, like "everyone knew" and revealing she had zero profit because the company didn't support her projects. It's really just not plausible that she didn't address it for legal reasons.

>>68514963
I wish she backtrack from that shit and I have no problem of her telling her Honk Kong / Taiwan fans that she will do a full Chinese stream on YOUTUBE
Shit, even Twitch if she want or TikTok (lmao), everything but B2

>>68515194
IDK man, this seems like a lost cause. She fucking loves China. That's Chinese immigrants for you, not much you can do about it.

>>68515075
That stream was unbelievably based. It really put things into perspective for me what we should be focused on. Don't let the shitstorm distract us from the fact that we almost lost a life. The statement was disgusting already, but him putting it into context like that really made it finally hit for me how fucking callous and evil it really was.

The smart move here is letting NijiEN burning down on its own. No one can save them now, so why bother giving names?

>>68515126
Niji not paying for projects is a really common thing that everyone has talked about. Especially Selen, if you watched her. Saying everyone knew is possible, but since I am not a lawyer and don't know what could get her in legal trouble, I can't say if that's on the same level.

>>68515234
True justice would be making sure that the ones responsible are industry blacklisted. But there's no situation where Selen spills it without getting hurt. So either some whistleblower comes out with proof or nothing happens.

>>68514885
There are two things you can count on, drama comes back to bite you and NijiEN will punch itself in the balls. Being involved in drama for long periods never pans out even when you're in the right. It always alienates you and gets messy when names get mentioned. Plus I'm sure Doki has at some point in her life made mistakes. All that when tomorrow someone else will get terminated for sending butthole selfies or whatever. Just not worth it unless you wanna be a drama channel.

>>68515234
Because Dramanigs wanted blood
The thing is, she is in a legal situation against a corpo and even if she was allowed to name them, Anycolor would take this on their favor (because we both know that if she named them, dramanigs and a lot of Dragoons would start a harass campaign giving more points in favor to Anycolor)
What she did was smart and she can continue her normal streaming schedule Sayu made the mistake of being impatient

>>68515234
Definitely, definitely. She gains nothing by going scorched earth. But it's also annoying that people try to do this cope about how maybe Niji, gumi, etc. were just fabricating the bullying allegations.

Her face is even more smug now

>>68512369
>Bringing more dramaniggers to stream
Are you retard anon?

>>68515338
>But it's also annoying that people try to do this cope about how maybe Niji, gumi, etc. were just fabricating the bullying allegations.
It's the same group of retards who are doing mental gymnastics about how supporting the livers doesn't equate to supporting the company

>>68515299
If she wanted to minimize drama, the smartest thing to say would be "I was not bullied by any livers, nor did I ever claim that". She didn't say it because it's not true.

>>68515433
I am genuinely irritated at people who realized they were being manipulated and then immediately turned around to say matter-of-factly that all livers are innocent.
People don't ever want to face the possibility that someone they watched did this so they stick their heads in the sand

>>68515321
Doki and Sayu's situations were a little different. Everyone supported Doki, but no one even tried to take Sayu's side when Niji tried to kill her career, so I don't blame her for being impatient.

>>68515437
It isn't about minimizing but not getting overly involved. She's been forced into this situation, made clear bad things happened and past that she is no longer involved with the issue. Lying about the situation is more likely to cause blow back, when eventually we get more leaks and people ask hey why'd you say it didn't happen. Making her honest position clear then dipping is the best strategy for her career.

>>68515234
I'm happy she decided to just be positive and move forward. Instead of making her first stream back nothing but negativity and dramabait, she had fun and showed all the drama tourists why she was so beloved to begin with and that's the best possible impression she could have made and the best response to people trying to ruin her.
>t. a drama tourist who spent that entire stream with a dumb smile on my face and will now pledge my life to the bird in absolution

This girl is one of the few drama tubers that actually use 4chan to get their info
>https://youtu.be/RQnTfYzsSVk?si=ZnB_04bm_tz1GnsM
And she's using it to shit on Niji and promote Doki
Brown cat good

>>68515688
They all used 4chan. Even the ones that "don't use 4chan" rely on information that was originally leaked here and rrats spun here that get transferred to mainstream platforms.

>>68515487
One would think that seeing some livers more concerned about protecting their own reputation rather than siding with Doki, would have at least raised some eyebrows among their fans, but... it is what it is.

I'm not trying to single out anyone, but if I were in their shoes, I would have left Niji immediately. Or at least go dark until I could safely quit.

>In 1 fucking stream she made back the 15k Niji took AND more

Just off of her top 10 donators she EASILY broke 10k.
Some dudes donated 2k lmao

She also jumped 100k subs off that stream too

>>68515688
I make up half the shit I post here how are you going to use this place as a source

>>68515583
Yeah. You can contrast that with what Sayu did where she aired out all the dirty laundry and violated her coworkers' privacy with conversations they had with her without getting permission inside a Google document and how she spent her first stream as Sayu talking about that in her stream. She wanted to be an honest person but it didn't help her gain much traction publicly and clear her name other than with the people who wanted to support her and drama seekers. Yes, she was right and evidently moreso now than before but it has sunk and haunted her career and stunted her growth with that association with drama and needing to bring up the situation again and again. Doki made the right choice to basically state the minimum required legally without involving anyone else and then try and leave everything behind as best as she can. It may be inevitable that she might get dragged into court but when stuff gets revealed there, it's much more understandable to the public that it isn't a choice and more of an obligation when you have to release the dirty laundry and name people.

God, I hope Selen is employing her Manager, and not in a new contract.

The guy seems to be a member of a group that runs a fortnite esports hype house with 0 traction that's inevitably gonna go bankrupt

>https://twitter.com/BySovereign
The manager
>https://twitter.com/XSET
The weird fortnite group

>>68516055
I kind of appreciate Sayu's circumstance as she wasn't exiting a burning building. The minimum would've likely had the sisters just go oh she's lying jealous whore etc, not really pulling in the general audience. But sometimes you gotta accept you aren't the straw that breaks the camel's back.

>>68516204
The only thing he has to do is managing copyright shit and some annoying paperwork for a fucking vtuber
Nothing else, not that hard

>>68516204
>xset
>fortnite esports hype house
who is gonna tell him

930,000 Views

Holy fucking shit the algorithm she can't take much more of this captain!!!

>>68516461
I hope you like those view because she will be unable to break 2k because the dramafags left

The fan name should be Goons or Henchmen

>>68516461
Great first stream!
Lets see what she is planning with her own tournaments
>>68516489
Not now Nijifag

>>68516489
That'd be her old CCV, but she doesn't have to split revenue with the suits. Pretty fucking good deal.

>>68516557
>but she doesn't have to split revenue with the suits
Because she will burn it on things that flop from low views

>>68516055
i feel bad for Sayu, she was right about everything and no one went to bat for her at the time. If i was in her position I'd have been pissed and done the same, there's no way I could have been as professional about it as doki was. it's easy to say just let it go but when you're the one being character assassinated and having your career torpedoed it's probably a lot harder to just move on, i don't blame her for having a hard time getting past it, i'd be eternally seething too. But unfortunately, it's hurt her in the long run and probably will keep doing so until she's able to find a way to heal and move past it, no matter how unjust that is.

>>68516489
I'd be mighty fine with it desu.

>>68516584
go back to your low quality bait threads nijisister

why is this sister so mad at doki

>>68516584
Okay, whatever Millie. You should start thinking about a plan B, the branch won't last through this year.

>>68516405
He's close enough honestly
eSports aren't exactly doing too well rn, a hype house would probably be a safer bet.

>>68516584
>Because she will burn it on things that flop from low views
But enough about the last 3 Niji waves

>>68516584
Enna gets low views AND a small cut

kekrumao

>>68516489
Doesn't matter, she's just become an underdog story that even normies and casuals will eat up.

>>68516550
She nearly surpassed Advent in live watchers and she's nearly caught up with their debut numbers, all in one night.

This is one for the records

>>68516213
It would have been better for her career to have addressed the minimum and not leak a bunch of other stuff in conjunction with that because she would be receiving a much bigger boost now than what she got. The use of private conversation without the consent of other parties is particularly egregious from a relationship standpoint but I will be honest. I still make those kinds of mistake as an ojisan and I did something although not quite as bad, bad enough to end an online relationship in 2022 and 2020. Sometimes, you can't think rationally but that's why it's more than important to use time if you have it to apply some critical introspection as to whether you really have to do X or say Y to someone else.
>>68516590
I can understand her frustration now, and it's easy to say what she did wrong as a third party observer but putting yourself in her shoes, she probably thought she was doing the right thing and now isn't getting her dues. Hopefully she can take her break and come back from it better and knowing what she needs to do to move on like Doki does. I do hope they are able to do a collab together given the fact they never did one inside NijiEN.

Can this thread change for the better too and not reply to such obvious fucking bait?

I love watching the Niji defense force on this board seething right now.

why do fanartists keep drawing her with big boobs? it's completely off-model

>>68516730
some things never change...

>>68516709
Also with just how well she organizes stuff (look how much growth her selen acc was just from 2023) as well as her networking (future and current established connections), she probably will do much better now

>>68516648
Actually, the only profitable eSports is LoL
https://youtu.be/mf72jNoMqL0?si=PQu0mTJl0MtwCe72&t=231
>>68516730
Wont happen again sorry

>>68516751
the reference is more what you'd call a 'guideline' rather than a rule.

This might be relevant. Not a flesh streamer enjoyer with the exception of quin69 but this could be big.

>>68516751
I mean... the transition will be hard lmao
>>68516884
I generally watch his second channel sometimes because he is himself and not the funny malding guy, while I don't like much the reaction andy side of him, I will let this pass since he said a lot of true things there

>asmongold put Doki in his thumbnail

Collab when? Unironically, imagine the kino

>>68516631
>>68516644
>>68516656
>>68516702
As always the simps will attack anyone who point out why she was fired and try to end herself in hope for views

>>68516968
I hope she stays away from fleshies as much as possible to be honest. Yes it would help her career but I don't want her fans being replaced by cancerous normalfags.

Will her new/updated whatever model also have a long neck and nice titties?

>>68517028
Asmongold called out Pippa too, they are on good terms.
That is a magical trio in the making

>>68517018
Bro either has no idea that the corp is finished in the west, or it's actually millie, in which case lmao get ready to get JP management who doesn't even speak english.

Of all the fanname suggestions so far I only like Robins/Robbins.
Shame she didn't want Goons.

so was there any particular drama dropped in the stream, I havent had a chance to watch yet

>>68517117
>spoiler
oof
>>68517128
B-Birds and Suspecks are my favorites

>>68515075
>>68515233
someone need to clip and translate rpr streams to jps and ship it to them, its still mind-blowing for me with how nips reacted to Selen termination

basedmangold calling vtuber agencies exploitive bunch of japanese dogshit culture.

hes based because i have the same take. a management company sohuldnt be allowed to own every aspect of (You) and your IPs that you build up with your personality. sweatshop tier of dogshit

Management's probably treating all of them like garbage desu. Doki was just hammered down faster because of her ambition.

>>68517519
I agree with him 90% of the time, the other 10% being lolicon = pedo and trying to suck up D4 when it's clearly dogshit.

>>68517519
But you notice a noticable lack of quality in vtubers that leave their old corp. Look at Mysta, look at Nina. Their content totally changed for the worse too.

>>68517519
>>68517685
These 2 points of view are right, you hardly find a middle ground about a graduated chuuba going back to indie.
As long as Doki doesnt go to the reaction andy or go full retard like Mysta then its ok.

>>68517763
What is this, high school?

>>68517763
>Location
KEK

>>68517851
>>68517817

>>68517519
I hate these normalfag vtuber haters commenting on this shit like it validates their preexisting negative opinions on vtubers. No one cares that we almost lost someone's life or any of the context. These dramafags should play the video of doki laughing and maybe people would realize that she was a person who shouldn't be used to push shitty narratives

>>68517927
drama always attracts normalfags, this thread will probably still be infested with them for at least a couple weeks before they finally fuck off

>>68517519
There is good and bad, it's not as simple as corps just being bad.
Well, maybe it is simple with Niji but there are better places that really help.

>>68516786
What's the story behind this strangely ethnically charged video?

>I spent 200k in nijisanji

Means she had +200k to spend, yet she was begging for rent money after "losing" 15k, so in the end she is just another grifter, no big surprise.

How in the fuck are you guys still giving her money and attention after all this shit?

>>68518079
Didn't ask.
Still want to fuck Doki.

>>68518079
begone touristchama

jkterjter

>>68518079
>Company forces employees to pay all costs of vtubing, even models and debut
>They even have to pay to collab with other streamers under the same company
>How come they had to spend money???
Bruh... Every nijigger is suffering under this yoke.

I hope her new model will be drawn by Selen's mama, like what Kson and Mikeneko did. Makes this kind of transition much smoother.

>>68518348
I hope it's just Doki with a cute new outfit.

>>68518049
Last LoL world tournament promotional trailer.
Koreans vs Chinks, on Seul... hype was high since the Korean team named SK Telecom 1 (aka T1) not only was local but also facing a Chinese team... you know, they hate each other.
T1 won by a landside btw. (The guy posted there is Faker, the best player in the world)

>>68518328
>nijisanji is an even bigger piece of shit tho

That doesn't negate anything I said. She is literally just another twitch millionaire begging for rent money, and the morons are giving it to her.

>>68518348
>>68518398
Based, time will tell! sadly that mama likes her daughters with BIG MILKERS so no more perfect sized doki boobs

Bump limit....

>>68517156
She named (((them))), called Tazumi a nigger, and said she'd kill Xi Jinping with her bare hands.

>>68518007
I guess. But this guy is a borderline anti using the situation to farm views and push his uninformed takes about how vtubers are all fake and clearly not understanding how the industry works.
It just really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. He clearly doesn't fucking care about doki, he's just a normalfag drama orbiter with an agenda. At least the dramatubers like False genuinely care about the industry and understand what they're talking about instead of using a suicide attempt to anti without remorse.

Also ignore the NIJISEETHE

>>68518529
No...

>>68518348
I just hope they keep her smug face tbdesu. It's perfect as it is, I'd like the same artist who did the current doki model to redo it with more expressions and better quality. I already love this one.

So, you know how Doki said that Ember is now called "Ember" with an A, did she mean that it's spelt Emba or Amber?

>>68518694
Emba!

>>68518538
I'm amazed by all the people that expected anything other than a normal selen stream and are having a hissy fit all over everywhere. She announced it as normal stream...

>>68516751
Yeah, draw her with a big ass instead https://files.catbox.moe/ds6m0d.png

>>68518415
Damn this is some crazy lore I never would've learned otherwise. Thank you anon. I'm proud of those korean niggas for winning.

I love being alive, new obscure stories like this unfurling every day it feels like.

>>68518694
Eaber

>>68518694
Eaber

>>68518694
Embro

>>68518775
That's what I thought! I kept seeing people saying "Amber" a few Breads ago, and I was really confused because that spelling would make it feel like you're supposed to pronounce it as am-ber, as in amber alert.

do I need to bake?

>>68518490
Doki's original model had pretty huge tits, so it would be a return to tradition.

>>68518963
Not on my pc right now...

>>68516884
what are the chances doki will get any new genuine fans? because this just feels like dramatubers' flavor of the month
i want people to actually watch her and realize holy shit she's entertaining

>>68518963
Usual bakers are unavailable atmit seems

>>68519066
>>68519109
I'll get it then

>>68518977
Mid bros...

>>68518530
nice

did she post her schedule or say what she's doing the next couple of days?

>>68511725
What were the other 3 biggest?

>>68519399
Schedule in a couple of days was the plan, I think? Definitely a stream on lunar new year though!

>>68519399
Schedule Monday a stream for sure on LNY

>>68519305
idk who this is but based. This is now my position after watching yesterday's stream too. We've lost track of what's important.

>>68519305
Batgirl love!

>>68519305
Bat virtue signaling again? Real shocker.

>>68519305
>>68519510
Yeah, I'm not pissed at Niji because of some corpo pissing match, I want to burn it all down because they almost killed my oshi.

>>68511580
Guys I wish she doesn't spam more apex after this and do more variety please please please or I'll lose interest but I still want to support her aaargggggghhh

>>68519305
>s-stop blaming the corpo with exploitive behaviour just consume stream and dont think

we need to start calling these corpos the fuck out with these retarded sweatshop tier of contracts.

>>68519622
doesn't even need to be your oshi. I never watched her before today but hearing her laugh and realizing what we almost lost, yeah we need heads on pikes.

>>68519663
We will have some Apex but most of the time it will be variety, basically the same when she was on Niji.

>>68519729
This is bat from /lig/ vtuber what do you expect man?

>>68519663
She literally mentioned her first game stream back will be neopets. Variety streams will still exist

>>68519802
Thank you anon, yeah that's reassuring

>>68519857
Is she good? I lurked on /lig/ and I saw a lot of bat anons

>>68519902
>>68519802
Thanks

>>68519914
As a streamer? She's fine. But she also talks a TON of shit.
This is particularly annoying she's doing the same thing as every other dramaleech, just more smugly and pretending she's above it all.

https://youtu.be/J2YmJL0PX5M?t=9265

>Let's not harass or bully anybody

>>68519305
I also wanna take this time for salty 2view rejectees to eff off with the sourgrapes

>>68519914
I'mm not sure I don't watch her really but I don't hear bad things about her

>>68520000
But what if I want to bully Shondo with my dick?...

>>68520037(me)
Maybe I should take back of what I said kek

>>68518902
Pretty sure it's actually Amber. Rechecked the stream to be sure I wasn't misremembering. Doki2's full new nickname is "Doki-Amber-Doge" and Doki on stream realized the joke of it spelling out "DAD". Amber is more than just a human name. It's also fossilized tree resin that usually golden in color. In that regard I think it's really fitting for Dokibird.

batat just triggers some people because she's loud and wrong on the internet and doesn't care if she is, but she does care a lot about her community and is very nise as long as you don't say stupid shit to her
her specific brand of mumbly autistic tsundere gap moe drives some anons wild

>>68518977
Exactly! Let those Milkers be Big and Beautiful, Doki!

>>68519305
Far-fetched drama nigger

>>68520134
I feel like I want to say stupid shit on her twitter kek

>>68520134
At least she is not on THAT commie chuuba levels

Bread?

>>68520372
still three to go

Hopefully things die down finally since she clearly wants to move on from this

>>68519305
Hate this drama grifter /here/tuber. She's half right but we should also shit on Anycolor for treating their talents like shit.

>>68520476
It won't fully die down until at least after all livers return to their normal programming and niji stops being talked about
If there's anything we've learned it's that the people perpetuating this were never interested in Doki's wishes or wellbeing in the first place

>>68520501
Yeah that's the thing. If you care that a life was almost lost, that immediately begs the question of why it happened, and who is responsible. It's not like she was almost killed in a landslide.

>>68520612
>>68520612
>>68520612

>>68520476
To be fair, that's not quite true. She said she WANTS to say more, but can't.
I hope things continue to happen, just not in a way that entangles her.