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https://cover-corp.com/en/ir

https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/2eced6e9/cb1c/46c1/af96/0fb860877c84/20240208140638447s.pdf

>> No.68505458

Nijibros.... It's not looking good for us...

>> No.68505469

AAAAIIIIIEEEE RIKU DON'T LOOK

>> No.68505523
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TL;DR
They did better than they thought

>> No.68505552
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wowie zowie what a coinkydink

>> No.68505562

>>68505375
>Impressive Achievement by Overseas VTubers
nijisis... they're laughing at us...

>> No.68505585

I'm not the least bjt surprised

>> No.68505644

>>68505375
Now that's how you write an financial report. Not that 1 page nonsense.

>> No.68505699

COVER CORP COMING WITH THE STEEL CHAIR

>> No.68505742
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68505742

>104% year on year increase

>> No.68505750

NIJISANJI FINANCE IN SHAMBLES
THANK YOU SUISEI

>> No.68505754

>>68505375
>20%+ growth yoy
Holy shit they're monsters, there's no stopping them

>> No.68505759

>>68505375
did they omit mentioning how the homos are wasting money and resources again

>> No.68505805

>>68505562
>Accelerate Overseas Expansion
they know

>> No.68505830

>>68505759
Are you gay bro? Honest question

>> No.68505847
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>>68505375
>English -speaking female unit “Advent” that debuted in Q2 continued to
acquire fans strongly. In Q3, we debuted “ARMIS,” a new English -speaking
male VTuber unit, thus expanding fan base overseas
>"advent debuted and gained a lot of new fans. oh and uh, armis debuted too i guess."

>> No.68505858

>■ Increase Overseas Expansion
>• On U.S. SNS Reddit, the official subreddit of “hololive production” exceeded 1 million subscribers
Why didn't they mention /vt/...

>> No.68505876

>>68505375
Don't watch em, but I think it's dope seeing the Holostars kick off.

>> No.68505900

>>68505742
>>68505754
>~20%+ sub growth
>100%+ revenue growth
How tf is this even possible? Did they scoop up a ton of whales with Advent?

>> No.68505907

Ironmouse on page 8

>> No.68505942
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>>68505900
gee I sure wonder what happened

>> No.68505952

>>68505699
No "steel chair" moment ever surpass this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

>> No.68505954

Both Advent and Armis did well? That's something I did not expect today. Cheers to the both of them.

>> No.68505978

>>68505742
Would have been 500% if not for homo

>> No.68505990

>>68505942
many semens stealed

>> No.68506001

>>68505900
>he doesn't know
Advent did better than expected and so did Regloss, people meme about them but they are doing what they sought to achieve with them.

They probably wanted to debut advent earlier but by talks it seems cover wants a slower approach

>> No.68506037

>>68505375
Bae mention
Towa mention

>> No.68506043

Purge homos

>> No.68506049

>>68506001
ACCELERATE IS BAD

>> No.68506060

>>68505742
>312 million jpy per vtuber in 1 year (assuming revenue)
>19.2 million jpy total revenue in 1 quarter
Am I missing something? Isn't this totally wrong?

>> No.68506063

>>68505900
>Did they scoop up a ton of whales with Advent?
Unironically yes.
>Twin doggos with a reputable history
>VSinger who brought in her whole family for content
>EN Kaela/Gaming Goblin
the odd one out is Shiori but she still fills a niche that attracts a certain demographic that's perhaps not very prevalent in the industry.

>> No.68506073

>>68505942
>>68505990
Fuwawa please stop stealing my semen I need it

>> No.68506082

>>68505942
mococo carry

>> No.68506119

>>68506001
i know they did better, but you're telling me the new gen revenue is equal to all the past gens for entirety of 2023? The others are that subpar?

>> No.68506141
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How are the plushies so strong?

>> No.68506147
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THANK YOU REDDIT

>> No.68506163

>>68506119
RetardGOD...

>> No.68506165

>>68506060
nevermind I'm retarded, they used a FUCKING COMMA to separate decimals

>> No.68506173

>>68506063
Unironically this. There is no Shiori in HoloEN, while the rest bar FWMC has an equivalent.

>> No.68506184

>>68505742
For comparison, 20% yearly growth for an established, profitable company is great. This is fucking insane.

>> No.68506226

>>68506060
>>68506165
It's 19225 million, or 19.225 billion

>> No.68506242

>>68506184
Great is an understatement. Most companies are satisfied with just 3% growth

>> No.68506252

>>68506141
It's by far the best kind of merch for everything. Any company, any medium and any IP

>> No.68506259

>>68505375
black company confirmed

>> No.68506268

>>68505742
>An average of a million subs per vtuber
Jesas, and this is with homos included even.

>> No.68506290

>>68505375
>Houshou Marine topped 3.0 million YouTube subscribers in January 2024 as the third VTuber to do so
LIES. CookieSwirlC PLEASE SUE

>> No.68506295

>>68506119
Anon, past gens could and are still growing, too. It’s not like that 100+% increase was all thanks to new members

>> No.68506315

>>68505847
It's clear the intent with shotgunning 3 male gens in a year and a half was to essentially to quickly establish a community that expanded the overseas community (to a certain extent) by targeting a certain niche. I imagine they're going to heavily slow down on Holostars EN gens now that they've secured a foothold within that niche, however small it may be.

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>ITT

>> No.68506318

Niggers in this thread can't be happy for Holo's achievement and instead like to talk about how FWMC mogged the other talents.
Stop fighting amongst yourselves and be happy.

>> No.68506322

>>68506242
I'm used to looking at Microsoft's financial reports, so my view is pretty skewed.

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>>68506141
Takodachis are the strongest mascot.

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>>68505375
Not looking good bros...

>> No.68506363

>>68506184
That's why they don't pay dividends. They can tell their shareholders 'take it or leave it'.

>> No.68506391

>>68505375
THANK THE FUCKING INTERN FOR PLOTTING HISTORICAL QUARTERLY CONCERT REVENUE
NOW IN ORDER TO PAD THE NUMBERS WE WILL HAVE YEAR ROUND HOLOFES

>> No.68506403

Negligible

Sent from my iYacht

>> No.68506455

Nijisanji in shambles holy shit

>> No.68506469

>50% YoY
There's no way this is sustainable for a business model reliant on gachis.

>> No.68506475

>>68506403
>sent from my iYacht
my fucking sides

>> No.68506491

>>68505375
>First, “Smol”, a morphed hololive English “Myth”, appears
ame invented this btw

>> No.68506536

>>68506469
You'd be surprised how many gachis want to fuck Kanata.

>> No.68506558
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>>68505375
The baubaus saved HoloEN, unironically. After StarsEN's graduations, much of Myth tapering off (and Gura dropping the ball harder than perhaps any Holo in fucking history) and Promise also winding down, it's amazing Advent managed to pull things back together. Imagine if half of Myth/Promise weren't fucking shitty garbage NijiEN wannabes - which fucking especially looks like a short-sighted goal now that the thing they were so envious of is going down in roaring flames.

>> No.68506561

>>68505942
Fuwawa has raped us far too much...

>> No.68506618
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>>68506403
>Sent from my iYacht

>> No.68506619

>>68505375
kek, advent impressive achievement: big numbers, big success, yes yes

holostars impressive achievement: w-we uh... added more of them

>> No.68506623

>>68505830
Is pope a catholic?

>> No.68506626

>>68506315
pretty much. Holostars EN doesn't have to be successful(although it's obvious they do way better than their JP branch), just gotta exist and bide their time until the Nijimale fanbases collapses on themselves/they get their Roberu.

>> No.68506631

>>68506558
Adventfags are a cancer, support all the girls you dumbfuck

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>>68505742

>> No.68506665
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68506665

Man they're really all in on that metaverse shit nonsense huh, I wonder what they expect the thing to pull in once it's up.

>> No.68506681

>>68505375
They have been watching Niji's downfall. Based. Let's fucking go!

>> No.68506682

>>68505742
Oh dear jesas

>> No.68506709

>>68506631
I'm not gonna support fucking cancer that tried its fucking damndest to kill the branch in favor of hot garbage nijien lite. Neither should you if you have a single molecule of testosterone in your body.

>> No.68506730

>>68505375
Everything thanks to Fuwawa the semen stealer, everyone should bow down to Fuwawa

>> No.68506731

>>68506623
Good to know that you think about men on the daily.
And yes he's catholic. I don't care much about religion.

>> No.68506745

>>68506665
>put on your apple vr glasses
>get unobstructed view of shion's panties during the concert
just imagine

>> No.68506768

>>68505375
>Lunaito concentration camps planned
uhh, what the fuck bros?!

>> No.68506778
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68506778

>they had to revise their predictions by 20%
suffering from success

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68506783

Spit on Kizuna AI's grave

>> No.68506793

>Development costs for “Holoearth” are estimated to be JPY 2-2.3 bn until FY2024/3
there are triple A titles with a smaller budget

>> No.68506809

>>68506558
stop falseflagging

>> No.68506820

>>68506709
Advent wouldn't exist without Myth, your EN teletubbies would still be air flight attendants by now if they never existed. Kiss my ass you fucking idiot.

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>>68506317
t.

>> No.68506844

>>68506793
The really sad thing is they could have licensed out the IP to some random gacha card pulling mobage shit and made billions off it by now. Cover seems keen on trying to prove it's some kind of tech/game company overall however.

>> No.68506868

>>68506290
>convert shitter
>real vtuber

>> No.68506871

>>68506165
it's good to catch the signs as early as possible

>> No.68506877

>>68505876
I'm fine with Holostars existed as long as Holobegga didn't shit the board everytime.

>> No.68506883

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw1Mx8nXub4

>> No.68506885
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>>68505742
Nijicucks had a bigger net profit as of last quarter, per their financial report for Q2.
2% just goes that hard I guess?

>> No.68506914

>>68506623
The current pope? I'm really not so sure sometimes.

>> No.68506924

>>68506063
Considering Shiori has the second most SCs in the gen, I think she’s less “odd one out” and more of an exemplar (after the twins) when it comes to whales.

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>>68505900
see their report later on, they do the pokemon strat where merch sales are a big chunk of the profits
>turns out when you have LESS livers, your market spreads more evenly, making less losses in unsold merch

>> No.68506946

>>68506665
>I wonder what they expect the thing to pull in once it's up.
Can take half of Hologamers and Matsuri's menhera ass to dates (they can't refuse).
You are lacking vision.

>> No.68506947

>>68506631
Except Mori of course

>> No.68506950
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68506950

Why the fuck is Niji still more valuable? Has anyone investing in the company even looked at how stagnant every branch is? Are they unaware of the insane competition Hololive is?

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>>68506809
It's too easy for Nijiniggers to falseflag as "ruffians" and sow holo v holo garbage. It'd be nice if people stopped falling for this cause it's so obvious.

>> No.68506953

>>68506820
Your EN branch would be fucking dead without the "teletubbies" who made their fucking living reviewing porn games prior to this.

>> No.68506964

>>68506001
In Cover eyes, if ARMIS have more than 500 members per person then it's enough to be count as success.

>> No.68506976

>>68506793
>JPY 2-2.3 bn
the yen is falling hard. by the time it's FY2024, that'll be worth as much as a bag of trail mix.

>> No.68506984

BUY BUY BUY
Also, the English in this one is pretty bad compared to previous ones, did they change the translator

>> No.68506993

>>68505375
>Establish a process for creating and nurturing
VTubers IPs
this is a niji jab. the whole document might be

>> No.68506994

>>68506885
>More for stockholders, less for talents.
>Talents don't get paid enough, they leave.

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>>68506665
Although, looking at this I didn't expect the Metaverse team to be so small comparatively.
>21% Agency Management
This is definitely way too bloated for the # of talents they have.

>> No.68507039

>>68506783
Marine is miles better than the undead queen.

>> No.68507038

>>68506950
2.
fucking.
percent.

>> No.68507064
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>3 quarters
Total of $21.7m net payout to talents in FY 2024

>> No.68507073

>>68506793
>Palworld 1B yen
What other game?

>> No.68507096

>Number of cases in which actions were taken against defamatory acts
toward affiliated talents: 116
>Legal Action Against Harassment Directed at Overseas Talents
who?

>> No.68507107

>>68506924
Shiori practically turned the doomer predictions on her not being worth watching by just being herself. She was always weird.

>> No.68507108

>>68507032
that's what Riku thought that that's why he's eating shit right now

>> No.68507122

>>68506745
SHION CUNNY?
ON MY FACE?
VIRTUALLY?!?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHH

>> No.68507126

>>68506994
They pay no dividends, so not even that.
More money to fund the yatch.

>> No.68507129

>>68506783
Did the translator have a fucking stroke or did they rush it? Or they slapped on deepL?

>> No.68507130

>>68506950
Because they don't pay their talents shit.
During the first investor meeting one of them complained that they pay Holos too much and to do what Anycolor does instead.

>> No.68507137

>>68506953
>Your EN branch would be fucking dead without the teletubbies.
Roru, rumao... Has your IQ dropped so low anon? Or were you born stupid?
I'd rather watch a shork play Palworld than learn ABCs with your doggy kindergarten teachers.

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>>68505375
Do they come up in the report?

>> No.68507167

>>68505978
That would reduce their growth, retard

>> No.68507184

>>68506665
>strap on your isekai goggles
>loading screen is the Risu truck
>first thing you hear is PEKO PEKO PEKO

>> No.68507187

>>68505759
It's under "black budget" secret projects

>> No.68507195

>>68505742
>FWMC counted as one person
Mococoe...

>> No.68507217

>>68507126
I wonder if it's in gold yet

>> No.68507222

>>68507151
Do you have eyes, anon? Just click the link

>> No.68507229

>Year 2024
>Hololive still mogging Kurosanji
>They get richer

Tokyo Dome for Holofes 2025.

>> No.68507237

>>68507032
21% agency management is too bloated

in an industry where reputation is king and drama is rampant? Nah, and the results speak for themselves. We've seen the opposite extreme of terrible, underfunded or underperforming management in the other corpo

>> No.68507238

>>68506793
>>68506844
Funniest part to me is that Palworld came out and it has everything holoEarth is supposed to have with a fraction of the budget and manpower

>> No.68507242

>>68506558
keep gloating the dogs numbers when they are an easy 4 digit shitters without bots. also don't forget the dogs have twice the quota to fulfill.

>> No.68507244

>>68506950
>2%sanji
Meanwhile at Cover
Investors: Can you pay your talents less
Yagoo: No

>> No.68507283

>>68506165
Real countries (like USA and Japan) use a comma to mark the the thousands/millions/etc place (i.e. 1,000,000)

>> No.68507293

>>68506950
TBF, if China cracks down on VTubers (they will, they are just bidding their time like a cat playing with captured food), NIJISANJI will crashland like a moon colony over a city. And as their JP branches stagnate, it means that if the worst happens, they will lack the safety net to fall back to unlike what happened when HoloCN got axed.

>> No.68507300

>>68506953
Get a load of this guy kek, sure man whatever

>> No.68507306

>>68507137
That's not a good example considering Gura is 110% going to just vanish again soon. If she didn't already. That's probably all the Palworld you're gonna get, pal.

>> No.68507340

>>68506119
You do realize that they were still growing super fast even when Advent hasn't debuted, right?

>> No.68507349

>>68506953
>living reviewing porn games prior to this
Cease, I can only get so erect

>> No.68507391

>>68506924
Yeah I don't know why that post implied what it did. She has less subs/viewers than the other girls but has a shitload of whales.
FuwaMoco captured the gachikoi ojisans who want to be comforted by two cute, affectionate hags. Shiori got the gachi whales who want an affectionate autistic rambler.

>> No.68507392

>>68506950
They payback to their livers less hence more profit margin.

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>>68506665
>those ballooning holoearth costs
bruh
unless this pops off like palworld it's going to sink the company

>> No.68507420

>>68506141
Wait until the great perocinno gets his plushie. It will be over you hear me, over

>> No.68507439

>>68506626
>>68505876
If the Stars's marketing team is smart, they'll take a glance to how Nijimale audience is slowly hemorrhaging itself into a shell of what it was and capitalize on whatever they're missing. The existing guys are tolerable enough for men but not enough for women, might as well and see how implementing a gen that specializes in BFE would work in converting people. Granted, I would never watch any of those guys, but they would net in some serious money if they played their cards right.

>> No.68507462

>>68505759
I checked the report for you, the only mention homos got was their 2nd en gen and it was sold as "expanding recognition." The rest of the report omits them. There was more info about Holoearth than homos in there.

>> No.68507469

>>68507306
>Gura is 110% going to vanish again.
Proof?

>> No.68507491

>>68507401
If I could not wear lamy's clothes here, this would be a flop.

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>>68507469

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>>68507420
Disgusting. I don't want that fat fuck in my house.

>> No.68507516

>>68506793
>Holofag money Is being used too make vaporware
Yikes maybe keep dropping those akas so it can come out this decade.

>> No.68507522

>>68506184
They need to have that kind of retarded growth to justify their ridiculous P/E-ratio, this is par for the course for successful, young tech companies. But yeah, Cover is one of the few that actually manage to do it.

>> No.68507525

>>68505375
>492 employees
how is this mathematically possible. you're saying each holomem can support the salary of 10 people including themselves? To not be in poverty in tokyo those staff need at least $50k usd per year

>> No.68507534

>>68507462
One of them were in the slide about the cons, apparently he did a concert there?

>> No.68507554

>>68505375
EN4 getting expedited. I was thinking maybe Winter of this year but now summer is not unrealistic

>> No.68507566

>>68507237
>>68507108
So I did the math and that's 103 "managers" for 86 talents and I suppose for all the other staff as well? Not too bad but likely there's at least a couple guys who have to do jack shit all day hidden in there.

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>>68507229
Plz kamisama let Sora-chan have a solo bit in said event if the opportunite arises. Full circle.

>> No.68507580

> Yearly Revenue Per VTuber
312 million(JPY)

What the fuck? And that's with mans dragging the numbers down.

>> No.68507585

>>68505375
Based
Imagine not supporting the best sports team
Couldn't be me lmao

>> No.68507608

>>68507401
anon, dont you get it.... all the development costs are recorded now and they still had 100% increase in profits.... from now onwards its all profits

>> No.68507613

>>68507401
All the costs for Holoearth development through 2024 are already included in the books.

>> No.68507612

>>68506844
>Cover seems keen on trying to prove it's some kind of tech/game company overall however.
Well, they are. Hololive is just a branch of it

>> No.68507615

>>68506141
>How are the plushies so strong?
cheap to produce
easy to sell

>> No.68507616

>>68507401
>2.3 billion yen
how much is that in real money?

>> No.68507623

>>68507516
>t. StarCitizen supporter

>> No.68507640

>>68507522
>P/E ratio almost at NVDA levels
Is it just fucked?

>> No.68507653

>>68506403
>Sent from my iYacht
Kek the last few days have been rough, but funny fucking anons have made them better

>> No.68507658

>>68507566
let me introduce you to the concept of middle managers: managers that manage managers

>> No.68507664

>>68507616
1 Palworld development cycle

>> No.68507689

>>68507439
Is Bettel the only Homostar that's watchable? Why is everyone else so boring?

>> No.68507695

>>68507616
Google it you lazy fuck

>> No.68507714

>>68507032
dont forget that the 21% includes both talent management and company internal management like HR/IT.

>> No.68507717

>>68507616
15 million USD? Pretty cheap honestly.

>> No.68507724

>>68507469
She does it every time she "comes back"

>> No.68507729

>>68507401
They're going to use Holoearth for concerts and shit. It is going to pop off once it's done.

>> No.68507738

>>68507640
you gotta believe in the vision
soon you can fuck gawr gura

>> No.68507748

>>68507525
Check the revenue breakdown. Merch is a big source of revenue.

>> No.68507756

>>68507439
As long as they don't make the same mistake and let the two genders mingle and have sex pests running rampant. Actually just to keep it safe they should make it so the two groups can never directly contact each other unless at least 3 staff are present during the interaction and maximum of 15 mins once every week. I would rather they just block each other but I'm willing to be realistic and compromise.

>> No.68507765

>>68507616
at the rate the yen is falling, about as much as a lunaito's chastity

>> No.68507779

>>68506793
Isn't this project an actual waste of time and actual resources? I've yet to see anything genuinely exciting/innovative about the project, I'd rather have that money goes towards the talents' primary activities.

>> No.68507780

>>68507469
Past behavior being a predictor of future behavior.

>> No.68507790
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68507790

Are these things good? They look kinda neat. Have they even come out yet?

>> No.68507793

>>68506885
Similar revenue, higher profit due to putting significantly less percentage wise back into the business. I guess shareholders probably enjoy that, workers/talents less so.

>> No.68507808

>>68505375
Bros we didn't have enough faith.
Practically every tech company kept hiring and expanding when the COVID boom subsided, and now they're all hitting mass layoffs and bankruptcies.

Cover on the other hand had the longest gaps between debuts in the company's history and doubled their revenue.
This is what it looks like when company leadership actually gives a damn about long-term stability over a short-term cash grab.

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>> No.68507821

>>68506793
>>68506844
HoloEarth is basically the logical extreme of what the original Hololive app that Sora was promoting was (before the entire VTuber phase kicked in)
A metaverse is versatile, even then HoloEarth will likely not displace... Fortnite... Yeah, Epic is trying to make people's attention switch from the BR to Metaverse focus but I doubt they will manage to kill the BR without killing Fortnite
Wasn't I talking about Hololive?, ah yes, Okayu is lovely!

>> No.68507827

>>68507032
Talent management is a subsection of that and with ~90 talents, it means that basically every talent has one personal manager. I don't see anything wrong with that.

>> No.68507840

>>68505375
OH NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

>> No.68507850

>>68507790
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololivecollection_vol1

>> No.68507859

>>68506924
Part of the reason shiori gets so many superchats is because she almost always addresses them straight away. It pisses a lot of people off to have the stream interrupted for a few seconds but makes people WAY more likely to send them than if they just get buried in a sea of 2 hour monotone boredom of the streamer reading them one after the other. Especially since a lot of them relate to a certain thing that happened in the stream and by the time they get read any fun or impact of the supa is totally gone. Sisters seethed and called it a 2view mentality but it clearly works.

>> No.68507863

>>68507717
Jesus fucking christ what the hell are those ""AAA"" games spending their $300 million budget on then?

>> No.68507881

As usual why do Ruffians want to make it all about themselves?

>> No.68507900
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>>68505375
>releases the bait for investors while Anycolor is at it's lowest

>> No.68507935

>>68507738
fuck it, I'm all in.

>> No.68507937

>>68507863
half is marketing

>> No.68507943

>>68507827
>it means that basically every talent has one personal manager
But we know this isn't the case for them all though? Quite a few Holos have talked about sharing their manager with another talent.

>> No.68507944

>>68507863
Realistic graphics

>> No.68507954

>>68507469
There's no proof, just theories that she's just streaming because of the Gurarium collab and once it ends, she's out of the picture by own volition again.

>> No.68507957

>>68507689
I'd say every boy (sans Flayon) has a specific niche that they do pretty well in terms of games/content and are decently entertaining. Ironically Bettel has actually fallen off, he's gotten quite boring.

>> No.68507960
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ACCELERATE

>> No.68507959
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>thread about Cover's outstanding financial performance
>faggots from other corpos try to falseflag and shit it up with holo vs holo
>fail

You're alright, /vt/. Sometimes.

>> No.68507967

>>68505900
Youtube doesn't count every viewer but unlike them Cover's bank account doesn't discriminate.

>> No.68507972

>>68507863
Most of a game development costs is pure payroll. A 100 people office in San Francisco during 5 to 6 years will cost you a lot, and that's just paying salaries.

>> No.68507995

>>68507469
Chumcuck....

>> No.68508016

>>68506147
hey it's us!

>> No.68508026

>>68507863
100k per person in annual salary multiplied by 1000 people for a big studio and a 3 year development cycle, you're over 300m for salary alone

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they really thought to post these together as equals

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Wonder if these niggas are getting paid...

>> No.68508127

>>68507863
Hush money after sex with young interns

>> No.68508141

>>68507401
>thinking HoloEarth is a game
NGMI

>> No.68508144

>>68507972
Especially with all the diversity hires and sensitivity managers who are just tagging along to tell you it's sexist if a woman can't kill a grown adult with their bare hands.

>> No.68508150

>>68507821
Huh, never knew that. And til you can download hololive for free on ios

>> No.68508155

>>68507808
>Practically every tech company kept hiring and expanding when the COVID boom subsided, and now they're all hitting mass layoffs and bankruptcies.
Honestly now that you mention it
It is impressive that Cover didn't lay off anyone given the current state of the tech industry

>> No.68508172

>>68507032
I haven't looked at last year's numbers but I think this went way up recently, and that's a good thing.
My Japanese isn't good enough to follow zatsus but EN used to complain a lot about about a lack of support. In the last year or so, the branch got a lot more managers and there was a noticeable difference in both the talents' satisfaction and the quality of their projects.

>> No.68508182

>>68507525
Merch has always been the main revenue source of most anime derivatives or around the otaku culture surrounding our subcultures
Ever heard of Date a Live and Kurumi?, there's a recurrent meme that all of the anime sequels and the spin-off is funded by Kurumi statues. And that might be true. Everything HER related sells out.
Now imagine how much money a succesful group like Hololive prints with their talents.

>> No.68508184

>>68508141
anon, you should have learned from laplus.
it is HoloAss

>> No.68508194

>>68507863
"AAA" games do not have a studio anon. They basically draw up a design bible and send them out to 3rd world country studios to produce the 3D assets, and maybe hire bunch of contractors, already have a "template" for the UI design. Then some of those budget money went to a bunch of private contractors for the music and sfx, and a bunch of voice actors. Even the engine is already homogonized across the studio with UE4 or Unity, all the "AAA" studio have to do is to cobble them up together into a working videogame. And finally they'll add their shitty writing.

There is no new game development nowadays. Only a reskinned game from Vietnam you have played before, with a different bitch on the writing team.

>> No.68508204

>>68507756
If it helps, Gen 2 and 3 are not making the same mistakes as Gen 1 and only play with the girls if they are specifically invited by them, they don't each out to the girls with fervor like the Gen 1 boys did. I can see a theoretical Gen 4 following the footsteps of their senpai and keeping to themselves.

>> No.68508225

>>68507957
I'm not gonna watch red homo. Something wrong with him internally, he's having a gender crisis compared to the rest of them

>> No.68508241

>>68508118
>5 employees
>46 part timers
Well they don't call the volunteers so I assume so, probably not as much as the employees though.

>> No.68508264

>>68508155
Cover is more of an entertainment company with a tech division

>> No.68508301

>>68508241
You're an intern, okay, but you get to sniff the talents chairs after they leave the room. Worth?

>> No.68508303

>>68508026
>100k
>in gamedev
Lmao, unless you live in SF and are still below the poverty line

>> No.68508307

>>68508184
She loves that project

>> No.68508309

>>68507525
>To not be in poverty in tokyo those staff need at least $50k usd per year
Anon... Japan... It's not 1985 anymore...

>> No.68508311

>>68508204
>they don't reach out to the girls with fervor like the Gen 1 boys did
You got your history backwards, there
It was the girls who reached out to them with fervor

>> No.68508313

>>68508264
Well, entertainment companies also took a big hit after COVID ended (netflix, the streaming industry in general)

>> No.68508322

>>68508155
Layoffs aren't common in Japan

>> No.68508337

>>68507401
if they weren't working on metaverse or AI or w/e, they would be compared to and valued as a talent agency. Same bullshit uber did with "self driving". Not just a taxi company my ass.

kudos to the CEO for this big brained move even if it's vaporware. that P/E is mouth watering

>> No.68508357

>>68506793
>“Holoearth” are estimated to be JPY 2-2.3 bn
They seriously should just put that money on STARS rigging instead

>> No.68508395

>>68508194
>t. has no idea what he's talking about but hates gamedevs for making his favorite game "woke"

>> No.68508400

>>68508322
isn't it straight up illegal to do layoffs in Japan unless you've exhausted every other option?

>> No.68508453

>>68508301
They farted on those chairs

>> No.68508466

>>68508400
Pretty much. It's also why they try to work their employees to death hoping they quit or fuck up bad enough to warrant getting fired.

>> No.68508482

>>68507863
Hiring sensitivity experts and other ESG experts

>> No.68508501

>>68508241
Moderation seems like a sensible thing to hire part-timers for, the full employees are probably the managers.

>>68508264
This includes the video game and streaming industries. Whatever you want to call it, VTubers were subject to the same boom.

>> No.68508512

>>68508303
i work at google and make more than the talents so i unironically can't tell if you think it's too low or too high. this is poverty level in my eyes but i also have a friend who worked for 10x less than me for a game studio in a fly over state...

>> No.68508533

>>68508400
Yeah, which is why they don't happen unless the company is fucked. Meanwhile in the West
>Oh fuck, our profit growth is going to be smaller than expected, we'll only have $20b in net profit and the shareholders are gonna be pissed. We gotta fire 500 people right now

>> No.68508543

>>68506141
uhh easy to install flashlight.

>> No.68508547
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>OUR IDOLS?
SHINING
>OUR CONCERTS?
UNFORGETTABLE
>OUR PROFITS?
STELLAR
>OUR TALENTS?
RESPECTED
>OUR TECH?
THE BEST IN THE WORLD
>OUR REPUTATION?
WORLDWIDE APPRECIATION
>OUR SMILES?
PROTECTED
>OUR CULTURE?
STRONGER THAN DIAMONDS
>HOLOLIVE?
NUMBER ONE!!

>> No.68508556

>>68508395
Yeah you're right dude the reason games have gone to shit is because of microtransactions, not because game studios are infested with dick chopped trannies and outsourced third world garbage or anything.

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>> No.68508623

>>68508311
Ironically what I think caused this is that Tempus was formally introduced to all the EN girls pre-debut back when EN management was all one big unit, it allowed them to get the ball rolling on friendships that would've never existed if they did it now where Holostars and Hololive are clearly managed separately and they only get introduced to their direct senpai.

>> No.68508632

>>68508589
>I don’t think so
KEK

>> No.68508639

>>68508556
NTA.
Meds.

>> No.68508644

>>68508400
Yes. That's why they have those shame rooms they put workers in where they try to encourage them to quit

>> No.68508675

>>68507439
They should've swooped in to get female fans after Vox fucked up and fell off instead of trying to push mixed gender collabs.

>> No.68508693

>>68506953
FWMC are not even top 3 in EN in viewership. They’re hard mogged by Gura, Mumei, and Fauna.

>> No.68508737

>>68508644
Would you rather be put in the jap room of dishonourabru shame or an Amazon wellness booth(tm)?

>> No.68508741

>>68508675
>get the CN leftover fujo females
No thanks

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>>68507401
HoloEarth is:
>Part game
>For concerts
>For exclusive Hololive media
>There's room for even more things to get added to it
Anon, there's zero chance in hell this won't be up there in the charts unless the launch has ransomware or some bullfuckery never seen in the modern age
Not to mention, the fact that people could theoretically get a chance to actually virtually interact with the talents in-person, makes this every whale, unicorn and gachi's wet dream and it makes COVER's life easier by not risking exposing the talents IRL with some fan meet n greet.
Also, it's considerably more interactive than just talking to a static screen in a Con.
I'm still curious as to what will happen if say, you buy some holomember virtual merch or item like a coat or hat or even a costume inspired on but not actually the one the talent uses and BAM, she gets terminated, will they delete your previously bought stuff?, thought about it considering that if this came out earlier people would have likely bought Mel-related fashion in-game and now she's fired, I don't even want to think what would have happened to Hololive if Rushia was never caught and she was there like usual and would have stayed long enough for her and stuff about her to be in HoloEarth, can you fucking imagine if she pushed for her stupid wedding merch in-game?, how do you even recover from that?
One thing is clear, they will make their screening process even tighter because as the company grows and everything gets more and more connected, there's considerably more to lose if a talent has to practically get banished from the company.

>> No.68508756

>>68508693
>muh viewership
ultra retard

>> No.68508780

>>68505375
>launch a mobile ritm game with gacha to pull for holos
>double profits
why hasn't Cover done this yet?

>> No.68508804

Even if holostars doesn't share the same core audience as hololive does. Their existence still steals audience off nijiEN male members and they basically pay for themselves to run.

>> No.68508821

>>68508780
Integrity

>> No.68508834

>>68508693
Post sc revenue brown faggot numbermonkey

>> No.68508845

>>68508780
Already juggling too many plates. Not taking on too much despite the allure of more money is also a skill.

>> No.68508852

>>68507469
what is pattern recognition

>> No.68508900

>>68508693
>Gura, Mumei, and Fauna
who the fuck cares about viewership. you didn't even correctly list the top 3 revenue earners of EN. It's either mori for her music or kiara for her small but loyal paypigs (even in gura's prime she didn't make more SC than kiara)

>> No.68508901

>>68506665
>expand capital investment
Hmmm think a certain competitor should consider this?

>> No.68508945

>>68507863
I work for one of these studios. Just straight burden is the biggest one (payroll, other expenses employees require like health insurance/benefits), then following that is infrastructure opex, shit like the physical studio, the datacenter space, the servers to put in said datacenter space, the fucking huge power bill the aforementioned things require, lifecycle on all that, as well as general increasing of capabilities necessitating new tech every few years. Then licenses for all the software you're using, general workstation costs for devs, and lastly - snack budget.
Lot of beancounters work on reducing those costs via outsourcing, cloud migration, contract labor, etc etc but the main thing is just that more people requires more bureaucracy. It's pretty easy to keep 7 guys in a garage aligned with each other on who's workin on what, but when that numbers balloons to 300, you need a good percentage to just exist as people tracking work, running your scrums and all that shit. And management.

>> No.68508950

>>68507439
Maybe the branch's overall reputation just hurts exposure to that audience, but this doesn't seem to be working. Flayon isn't exactly doing the hearthrob routine but whatever you call what he does seems to be aimed at women, and Shinri manages to toe the line without putting male viewers off completely, and they're not exactly seeing explosive popularity.

>> No.68509006

>>68505375
Guidance is pretty bad, holobronies.

>> No.68509024

>>68506141
I have spent more money on merchandise than everything else in Hololive combined and it's not even close. I'm guessing there's more people like me who don't like to super chat and don't join members and just buy merch when I think it looks good. I have 3 Holo dakis, 2 necklaces, 2 mousepads, 2 albums, a bowl, a bunch of figures and I'm probably missing something. Instead of having them read my name I'm getting stuff I want.

>> No.68509045

>>68505952
This was the knife wound that killed Xbox. It took them just over ten years to bleed out from it but they're dead now.

>> No.68509050
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Our competition is growing AND profitable!?

RELEASE THE NEXT GENS!

>> No.68509061

>>68508901
1 yacht = 1 investment

>> No.68509069

>>68506141
They sell this shit for like $20 and they cost $1 to manufacture

>> No.68509082

>>68508644
Isn't that what they did to Coco?

>> No.68509083

>>68506290
While I do think she should be in top metrics and stuff, but she didn't top 3 million as a vtuber anon.

>> No.68509099

>>68508845
It's also why NIJI could reach critical mass if they keep accelerating as usual.

>> No.68509106

>>68507244
Based honestly, I want my chuuba taken care of.

>> No.68509123

>>68508945
How much do you hate your life? Are you glad plenty of people got laid off recently?

>> No.68509177

>>68509082
I don't think they really wanted to shame Coco to force her to leave. They did limit what she could do but I don't think it was malicious.
I think in their ideal world she would just go full Shion and exist as a face they could sell merch of. Coco just wanted to actually do shit

>> No.68509178

>>68508693
Why does chumcuck bite bait so easily? Stop replying to Nijisister please

>> No.68509190

>>68505900
>subs mattering

>> No.68509192

>>68505830
If I was then maybe I would actually like homostars

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>>68506141
I haven't been watching hololive between Sana's graduation and the Regloss debuts but I have two of these chonkers, one in the sofa and another on my bed
Plushies are great
I'm just waiting for Raden to get one

>> No.68509228

>>68508589
The strongest Japanese Copium, folded over a thousand times!

>> No.68509232

>>68506141
Do you prefer the usual keychain+arcylic niji is selling? I actually bought the Dino Gura plushie and so far its my favorite purchase ever.

>> No.68509257

>>68505847
>we debuted “ARMIS,” a new English-speaking male VTuber unit
What, really? I thought their male vtubers all quit. There were more than 2?

>> No.68509296

>>68508780
Yagoo doesn't want to compete with already existing product, collaboration with them is wiser. The metaverse is not just video game but also an alternative streaming platform.
Yagoo has been answered it in multiple interviews.

>> No.68509306

>>68506558
Congrats Ruffians, a lot of fanbases competed to be the worst one. I'll never forget the impressive lengths that chumbuds, deadbeats, saplings, and irystocrats went to to shit up shit board. But you have absolutely run away with 1st place. Everyone one of you needs to be tossed into a woodchipper.

>> No.68509328

>>68509024
I'm the opposite but you're probably right. A lot of people want to support the talents but it feels a lot better to get something in return. Then there are the ones who just have too much social anxiety to participate publicly but are still willing to shell out in private.
Last but not least: The oft-forgotten VOD gang. A quick glance at CCV versus VOD gang tells you that the majority of fans do not watch live and can't SC.

>> No.68509364

>>68509024
i watched hololive since 2020. never subscribed, not even to my oshi (don't want yt algo to know i'm a degenerate when logged in). So obviously never membered or SC either.

But I have spent several thousand on concert tickets and their related merch as a memento. That's not counting flights/hotels to get there. With how competitive the overseas tickets were for holo fes, i suspect there's a ton of people like me.

>> No.68509377

>>68509050
Quick, release the ILN (short for I Love Nijisanji) wave, with Smelen and Promu and Mister in it, who clearly are not remotely as talented or likable as the replacements their scab asses are covering! JP shareholders won't know the difference!

>> No.68509393

>>68507032
how do i have sex with every single person in this image?

>> No.68509400

Going full retard into metaverse
Yeah it's going to crash hard like META

>> No.68509410

>>68509177
idk, I always felt they kinda wanted to force her out because of everything was going on.
The way I see it, Coco was kind of like Selen in the way she was so outgoing and maybe not follow all the protocols because of gaijin blood, but with the added Taiwan drama that cost Cover a lot.
The difference was in how each company dealt with it, Coco asked to leave because they were basically cutting her wings and isolating her and as a reward she got the most beautiful graduation she could get. Anycolor chose public execution.

>> No.68509416

>>68508623
Based Same-chan held the line until Advent debuted

>> No.68509462

>>68507863
It takes 10 diversity hires to handle the workload of one competent developer

>> No.68509463

>>68508950
Flayon is emotionally unstable (not in a cute way, but annoying and offputting) and thus only has a very small but tight fanbase, and Shinri put down a hard stance on not wanting to be seen a "sexy daddy" so only folks who stick around for the occasional VP can enjoy that content.
The problem in general in that StarsEN treat fanservice/BFE as something for once in a blue moon tucked away behind merch or Tier 3, where casual watchers do not see. We gotta get someone who proudly does it in public, seeing that kind of content as a strength like the girls do. A random horny fangirl looking for a male vtuber to watch wouldn't be aware of a Shinri's occasionally sexy content since it's paywalled, but having a public ASMR rp stream recommended to them would definitely catch their eye.

>> No.68509510

>>68509410
I agree with you that I don't think they liked her much at all, but they definitely would have wanted her to stay so long as she would be compliant and in the background. People like Shion or others that barely stream are like free money to cover

>> No.68509523

>>68506783
I'll spit in your mom's cunt again, keep AI-chan out of this

>> No.68509522

>>68509257
It's honestly not a bad thing that they exist but just kinda do their thing on their own without being forced into the fandoms for the girls. That's the way starsJP works and what we had fucking expected in the fucking first place from a starsEN. If they are successful then good for them, it shows they have an actual fandom they built themselves instead of tried to guilt trip fans of the girls into watching by association to vaguely "support" them or some shit.

>> No.68509527

>>68509106
Same. It's the least they deserve for the work they put in.

>> No.68509537

>>68509123
Not really, while I don't like what we make, it's still interesting work. And also not really, layoffs hit the lower performers mostly, but the ideal would've been replacing those people with someone who didn't suck, not just nixing the position entirely. I wish all these tech companies could've dodged the classic
>Surely covid conditions will last fucking forever
mistake, that would've been cool.
Cover seems to be doing good though, I think I'd like to work on HoloEarth, as they're probably in that interesting state where they're considering how hosting will work for an inherently multiplayer experience. Like people are citing Palworld as costing peanuts, but there's also stories about them paying out the ass for hosting because they probably had no properly scalable plan for the numbers they got.

>> No.68509552

>>68509393
That's gonna be available in HoloEarth in 2025

>> No.68509560

>>68509024
>I'm guessing there's more people like me who don't like to super chat and don't join members
You certainly nailed me on the head, except I do have one membership to my favorite Holo.
But yeah, no supers, but a whole lot of plushies, CD, keychains, and even some pins. And a necktie, for some reason.

>> No.68509564

>>68509400
Those free concerts alone provide way more value than the METAverse shit ever did.

>> No.68509596

>>68509400
it'll probably be fine, but I don't see it blowing up at all.

>> No.68509624

>Yearly Revenue Per VTuber 312 million(JPY)
wtf that's 2million usd.
selen spent 200k last year and ended up with no money, so it's safe to say that was her entire salary.
mooms is probably at least average in hololive, so she probably cleared 2mil.
how can two people of such different financial status still be friends?

>> No.68509698

>>68509232
keychain and acrylic is a purely japanese phenomenon. i have no idea why the western vtubers try to copy that shit. i don't fucking want it

>> No.68509700

>>68506141
I'd buy all the plushies if the shipping wasn't out the ass

>> No.68509814

>>68509410
Nah, I don't think so. They made some mistakes, sure. The suspension was an attempt to appease the antis, the limits were to stop it from spreading to other talents, and with both they were hoping that having her lay low would ride out the storm. Then there's just the unfortunate human error with the mod incident.
It didn't work, but they wouldn't have pulled out of the entire CN market to the point of closing an entire branch if they weren't legitimately trying to fix things for her. It was a fucked-up situation and the bugs were never going to settle for anything short of termination. They threw her a party on the way out anyway.

>> No.68509819

>>68509698
Keychains are alright.
Small enough, it's a good balance between individuality and subtlety
I don't want all of their merch to be keychains though... but I want Cover to consider selling stuff like keychains, posters and stickers as permanent merch

>> No.68509841

>>68509624
look at how much star players and their teammate are getting paid in sport teams

>> No.68509861

>>68509624
>how can two people of such different financial status still be friends?
Jesas anon, have you ever had a friend

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>>68509624
that's gross revenue. net payout covering 3 quarters is $21.7m. And ~60% of that belongs to top 20 talents.

>> No.68509874

>>68509024
>>68509560
The yen free falling and the strong USD conversion rate has led to me buying so much of my oshi's merch that I'm starting to worry where I'm gonna put all this shit. Oh well that's a problem for future me lol.

>> No.68509886

>>68505952
>See a reddit-ass comment from 10 years ago under the video
>It's my own comment
>I have no memory of making it

>> No.68509934

>>68509624
>how can two people of such different financial status still be friends?
The fuck does one thing have to do with the other?

>> No.68509964

>>68509874
Same, this shit has me actually buying new shelving and cases and rearranging my place just to accommodate all this lmao

>> No.68509966

how is cover staying aflot taking less than 98% of the merch sales? I thought that was impossible

>> No.68510005

>>68509966
Tazumi, omae...

>> No.68510037

>>68508900
For revenue, Ina is probably in the top 3 just for her takodachi merch, no joke.

>> No.68510040

>>68508900
You're right about viewership but I'm sorry but there's literally no way Gura isn't one of the top 3 revenue earners of EN, let alone Hololive.
You have no idea what you're talking about if taking superchats as the main revenue earner
imo Gura and Mori are top 2, but who knows after that
>>68508834
dumb numberfag tries to call out another numberfag when he's equally retarded

>> No.68510047

>>68509874
Stop taking advantage of poor countries

>> No.68510084

>>68510047
>typed from a device made in a third world factory

>> No.68510091

>>68510040
Post the numbers brownoid (you won't)

>> No.68510098

>>68509700
It's gotten better. Last year shipping was absolutely ridiculous. I bought Polka's Birthday Merch last year, the full set was $114. I had to pay $111 in shipping for it!

Cover must have renegotiated their freight rates because everything has gone back down to ~$25 for even full merch sets with large bulky items. (At least to the Western US.)

>> No.68510113

>>68506994
>Talents don't get paid enough, they leave.
>Get more talents from poor countries
>They kiss your ass and thank you while you pay them in coins
>They go crazy, they leave
>Rinse, repeat

>> No.68510140

>>68509874
Even my turd world currency's stronger than the yen, when I went there the food was cheaper lmao
I mean, ignoring the plane ticket and hotel costs

>> No.68510162

>>68506778
the stock is going to soar
would be funny if they beat Anykara market cap tomorrow

>> No.68510178

>>68507859
Shit, that's exactly why I hate sending supas
Maybe I should send one to Shiori

>> No.68510179

>>68510098
>renegotiated freight rates

No, they just realised they would make more sales and gross profit by cutting back on the insane """"shipping"""" prices they were charging.

>> No.68510198

>>68509874
I've bought so many fucking anime figure lots on Yahoo Auctions JP because the yen is so weak that I'm pretty much out of room in my garage to hold all that shit.

>> No.68510227

>>68510091
I'm not the faggot numberfagging, that's you.
Anyway, we just saw Selen say she spent 200k in a year, but her superchat revenue isn't anything special in NijiEN. Most of that money is coming from somewhere else (membership, merch, etc.)
That's why I put Mori near the top since she has tons of high profile sponsorships on top of all her other output.

>> No.68510236

>>68509624
>>68509873
More specifically it's Cover's base revenue. Assuming the 50% kson mention applied to all income (big assumption) that would leave them with something like 600k-700k after taxes.
200k vs 600k is a big difference of course, but it's not a huge difference in lifestyle. To some extent six figures is six figures, especially for young singles

>> No.68510308

>>68510198
leech

>> No.68510332

>>68505375
>indonesia alone is half the overseas fanbase
I knew there were a lot of them but damn...

>> No.68510344

>>68507130
when did that happen, how do you know what happens in cover meetings?

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>>68509393

>> No.68510403

>>68510227
You were numberfagging, I told you to post the numbers and you didn't. Why are you even talking about niji in a holo thread? Kys shitskin

>> No.68510427

>>68510403
I'm not the first guy you responded to who was a retard, you should be able to tell just from the typing styles.

>> No.68510429

>>68508900
>>68510040
I don't watch Gura but you you have to admit she's the face of EN. She has a fucking army of casual fans who rarely show their faces, and those are the people who quietly buy merch but never send supas or even join membership.

>> No.68510473

>>68509861
NTA but i have a cryptobro friend who doesn't understand why i wouldn't want to spend $100 on a meal every time we hang out. even if the food is indeed marginally better.

>> No.68510496

>>68509400
>Exclusive VR dates with the girls
I WANNA
I WANNA
I WANNAAAAAA

>> No.68510514

>>68510403
anon...."sc revenue" are also numbers
aka you're also numberfagging
both of you should kiss and go to the numbers thread, im sure you'll enjoy it

>> No.68510562

>>68507525
I visited Japan recently. It was the cheapest place I could possibly be without being in a third world country. The international plane ride was the only expensive thing at $1200. Their hotels were cheap as hell, their food was even cheaper, the transit other than the shinkansen was really cheap. I make 60k and I was able to live like a king in Japan while not losing money. Train station sushi in Osaka was 500 yen for eight pieces of nigiri sushi. A hotel directly next to a train station was about $250 for a week. Only things that were actually expensive or tourist trap snacks and art. Also I was alone and every hotel was a shoe box for two people. I took public transit everywhere or walked.

>> No.68510582

>>68508780
Just like niji did with their merch? rumao

>> No.68510618

>>68508118
I'd work for 6 months for 10ml of Raden's saliva. Actually make it 5ml.

>> No.68510653

Apparently the loss of day 1 Holosummer ticket sales on Z-an was around 160 million yen. The price for one day was 5500 yen. So roughly 29,000 people had bought tickets for day of Holosummer on Z-an.

>> No.68510655

>>68510562
>A hotel directly next to a train station was about $250 for a week

Wtf have things gotten that bad? I was there only like 8 months ago and a not disgusting hotel was still like $80 or more a night.

>> No.68510662

am i seeing this right bros? on average a talent makes roughly 300k usd?

>> No.68510702

>>68510562
>$250 for a week
hmm i'm staying at the apa hotels for holofes and cheapest i could find was $60 per night. did you stay at a capsule hotel? or i'm just unlucky in sakura bloom season

>> No.68510727

>>68510662
Checks out, that's about how much it would take for a westerner to put up with JP corpo fuckery.

>> No.68510753

>>68510655
NTA, but they mentioned Osaka which is way cheaper than Tokyo.

>> No.68510784

>>68510662
More like average male talent 50k, average female talent 400k

>> No.68510798

>>68510653
More like Zamn.

>> No.68510802

>>68510662
Yes, but it's skewed pretty heavily by the top performers and the shitters.

>> No.68510862

>>68510784
>>68510802
how does that work anyways? do different talents get paid differently by the company?

>> No.68510897

>>68510784
should also split it by country. if you made 50k in indonesian you're a queen.
hell even kiara is somehow a huge player in the real estate market in austria now.

>> No.68510896

>>68509045
I mean, Xbox no longer needs anything other than game pass now.

>> No.68510927

>>68510802
You say that but even the lowest ID must be making 200k

>> No.68510930

>>68510862
Yes welcome to capitalism

>> No.68510982

The game part of Holoearth will flop, Everyone has already accepted this deep down, The concert part will probably be a success.

>> No.68510998

Unironically Cover is running a very intelligent business strategy. Seeing their work collated into this presentation really puts into perspective how well they are doing.

>> No.68511004

>>68509874
Did you know they make hammocks for plushies? I didn't until pretty recently. I hang them up with command strip hooks, solved one of my biggest space problems.
For now.

>> No.68511038

>>68510236
yeah it's also on the report, their profit margin was actually lower this quarter around 45%, down 2% I believe

>> No.68511056

>>68506941
>the pokemon strat
they are set for at least 20 years, lmao

>> No.68511061

>>68510927
lowest ID is probably iofi or anya right? their ccv average is barely 4view. you're saying that they are somehow extracting $100 worth of value off each viewer?

>> No.68511063

>>68510862
The talent gets a cut of whatever revenue they bring in, the cut % is the same for all but obviously the revenue each one brings in is different so the net amount they'll get is also different.

>> No.68511076

>>68510982
Digital accessories and skin will be doing well supporting game.

>> No.68511090
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>>68510862
Talents get a basic salary and % cuts of their YouTube revenue, merch revenue, sponsorships, and performance fees for stuff like HoloFes.
There's speculation that merch cuts differ based on how much they contribute to the merch and how personalized they are.
There was a discord leak where we could see managers posting sponsorship bounties for Amongus - stream a sponsored collab of Amongus for $500 per participant.

>>68510927
Eh, the lowest shitters like the Stars do have trouble making it their full time job.

>> No.68511094

>>68511004
Command strips are a scam, I hope you aren't renting. Every single one from every brand I ever used pulled paint off no matter how careful I was taking it off.

>> No.68511113

>>68511061
Through merch and other shit? Yeah I'd say they do.

>> No.68511133

>>68510982
I don't give a shit about the game part. Give me more awesome events like Yamato Fantasia.

>> No.68511162

>>68510927
They couldn't afford 10K USD for 3D live, I doubt it.

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>>68511094
>I hope you aren't renting

>> No.68511232

>>68510982
Palworld is basically the best version of what the Holoearth gameplay could have been, but I doubt Cover could execute at that level. Now we are in a world where Palworld exists and the game design for Holoearth is already dead in the water.

>> No.68511250

>>68505375
Wow!

>> No.68511277

>>68511113
You have no idea how insane an $100 ARPU is, especially since they are indo only.
If you look at facebook, their ARPU is $53.56 in US/canada but drops to $4.05 for asia pacific:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/251328/facebooks-average-revenue-per-user-by-region/

>> No.68511302

>>68510897
Don't underestimate Kiara's income based on sub count. Sheer numbers count for something, but Kiara's ratio of dedicated fans to casuals is remarkable. I doubt she's anywhere near Gura and Mori, but she's making good money.

>> No.68511303

>>68509624
>how can two people of such different financial status still be friends?
lol, are you from a poor country or something?

>> No.68511307

>>68511162
No way 3D Lives cost that low.

>> No.68511348

>>68511307
Cover subsidizes

>> No.68511368

>>68507863
Payroll + marketing is like 90% of it AT LEAST

>> No.68511422

>>68511303
Smells almost like caste system to me

>> No.68511470

>>68510562
Yeah, Tokyo has expensive real estate and Japan is obviously much more developed than somewhere like Indonesia, but as a westerner I found everything very cheap there.

>> No.68511568

>>68510927
Don't be dumb anon. Living in SEA is cheap as fuck. That's what's sustaining the ID branch.

>> No.68511592

>>68511470
Tokyo is very affordable compared to hellscapes like LA, SF, and NY but also has superior safety and amenities.

>> No.68511677

>>68511470
>>68511592
It's mostly that they actually acknowledge the problem and build dense housing and public transportation, while everyone in NA still wants their white picket fence.

>> No.68511680

>>68510927
doubt it. the most successful ID member was caught couchsurfing at holomems' mansions to save on hotel costs

>> No.68511720

>>68508337
And how do you explain Nijisanji's similar valuation?

>> No.68511853

>>68511720
unironically they get compared to cover. but cover won't get compared to niji because they are the top dogs. so they get covered to other tech or entertainment companies, and it's clear which side they want to be categorized as.

>> No.68511865

>>68511680
Kaela was couch surfing?

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Nijisisters...

>> No.68511939

>>68511890
>そう思わない 40
kek

>> No.68511980

>>68511720
Companies like Niji prioritize short-term gains because investors prioritize short-term gains.

>> No.68511982

>>68511232
The smartest thing Holoearth could do is to look at Palworld and see what people are criticizing and learn from that.
Stardew Valley was made by a Harvest Moon fan who added and improved a lot of stuff people wanted in the Harvest Moon games and it's now one of the best-sold indie games.
Get ahead of your competitors

>> No.68512044

>>68510429
I only found out recently but even Gura's nendoroid has a bootleg, it isn't just Dino Gura that got bootlegged.

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>>68510562
it's less with being cheap per se and more with yen is aproaching ARS levels of devaluation

>> No.68512092

>>68511890
そう思わない

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>>68511982
They can just copy their homework and replace the pals with fan mascots
I for one would like to breed an army of deadbeats, and work them to the bone

>> No.68512126

>>68511890
Imagine they raiding biz...

>> No.68512127

>>68512046
It's not even close to ARS yet but will be soon. They are in the fiat currency endgame, desperately trying to yield curve control and do everything to pump the yen but there is not much left in their quiver. 300%+ debt to gdp is catastrophic, you cannot recover from that. Even 100% debt to gdp is terminal.

>> No.68512150

>>68507238
Palworld has livestreamed mocap concerts?

>> No.68512166

>>68512099
Kek, im gonna chase sapling and slap them.

>> No.68512245

>>68511422
Yeah, such a mindset is completely alien to me. I'm friends with someone who's quite rich and there's no issue. I would never beg money from him because I have enough money to get by and because I have some self-respect and no interest in ruining our friendship. I mean, I've never even considered it before.

>> No.68512259

>>68507863
kinda funny when you realize that video games back then during the SNES/ Genesis era were only done by a small team of people no more than 20.

>> No.68512276

>>68511677
>while everyone in NA still wants their white picket fence.
That's only retarded boomers. Anyone with even a tangentially functioning brain is scrambling to grow a food garden on whatever land they can.

>> No.68512336

>>68510473
The top holo JP still eats McDonalds to this day.
You're only going to see the behavior that you see from your cryptobro friend in those that only got in on this knowing that they will be extremely rich.

>> No.68512356

>>68512336
To be fair, McDonald's in Japan is far above the standard elsewhere.

>> No.68512380

>>68512356
It doesn't cost $100 and is in fact pretty damn cheap.

>> No.68512509

>>68512276
>on whatever land they can
Which isn't a lot, because boomers still have a stranglehold on government and finance. You're not allowed to build anything but single-family houses, and those will be bought up by speculators instead of letting anyone actually live in them.

>> No.68512520

>>68512245
I wanted to say I know what he means, but then I thought about it and my friend makes 10-15 times more than me and I've never really thought about "we shouldn't be friends", at most I thought I should get my shit together and that I'm slightly jelly of him.

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BLACKROCKED

>> No.68512712

>>68505759
It will pay off. Free real estate after NijiEN leaves. Yagoo thinks long term.

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>>68506403

>> No.68512793

>>68508589
Anycolor's Q3 includes November, December, January. Including NijiFes and the New Year event, I think they will earn more than Cover Q3. But Cover will earn more in Q4 with Holofes (expected to earn more than 9 billion Yen). Cover might make more money than AnyColor first time this year

>> No.68512798

>>68512694
LGBT march promotion happening this year then? All good things always end like this.

>> No.68512826

>>68512798
Hololive's already a gay vtuber group

>> No.68512834

>>68506403
KEK

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>>68506820
> EN teletubbies
imagine being a teletubby-anti

>> No.68513113

Kronii could have been a money monster but she had to throw away everything for her homo boytoys, only for them to fucked off after less than 6 months

>> No.68513121

>>68512694
Reads like efforts to protect the talents. Don't get triggered by headlines, read the words below.

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