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68496642 No.68496642 [Reply] [Original]

Reminder that corporations are not your friends

>> No.68496782

unless it's cover! Cover IS our friend! servility towards other corps is just japanese bootlicking, but not cover.

>> No.68496854

yell it louder for all the nijiniggers

>> No.68496881
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>>68496642
Fauna is a corporation

>> No.68496954

>>68496642
He says, as he posts the prime example of a corpo vtuber that was better when she was WITH the company

>> No.68497071

>>68496954
monkey opinion

>> No.68497191

And then she joined another corpo even though she said she would stay independent. I guess those superchats weren't as much as people made them out to be.

>> No.68497200

>>68496642
Why are you posting a corpo vtuber then anon?

Or did you forget Vshojo was a corp? Hell even her time at Holo us most known for having paved the way for corpos in the space, not indies.

>> No.68497312

>>68496954
Retarded opinion she was censored and bullied into graduation by Cover

>> No.68497321

>>68496954
She literally said Cover is trash and no one should work there

>> No.68497363

>>68497321
literally or "literally" (zoomerspeak)?

>> No.68497375

>>68496642
>>68496782
cringe

>> No.68497472

>>68497071
>>68497312
>>68497321
COPE

>> No.68497534

>>68497363
Literally but without naming cover

>> No.68497553

>>68497375
>its based to be loyal to a corp, bro. supporting chuubas independent of their management is cringe

>> No.68497566

>>68496782
blowing up your friends out of spite towards your former employer is peak selfishness and Coco agrees

>> No.68497609

>>68497553
I support my holo and I believe her when she speaks nothing but good things about her treatment

>> No.68497640

>>68497534
>Literally but without naming cover
So zoomerspeak, got it.

>> No.68497649

>>68497321
Except she has on record said she will defend them forever if you talk shit about them to her

>> No.68497662

>>68497321
obsessed chimp

>> No.68497731

>>68497534
zoomerchama...

>> No.68497803

>>68497649
Only because she is friends with all of the Hololive girls

>> No.68497810

>>68497609
would you drop her the instant she left hololive? or is the branding what matters to you?

>> No.68497953

>>68497312
>bullied into graduation by Cover
I have never seen the month long parade she was given, the sobbing and goodbyes from the talents over her departure, ever given to anyone else in vtubing. Even got to interview Yagoo as disrespectfully as she wanted to. This is not someone who was "bullied" into submission anon. That treatment looks more like the purple dragon from your black company.

>> No.68497980

>>68497649
She has never said that. She only said don't try to use her name to spread rumors about them. She still maintains that Cover is shit and that no one should work there.

>> No.68497983

>>68497312
t. bugman.

>> No.68498084
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>> No.68498136

>>68497980
Except she's said she will always defend them

>> No.68498179

>>68498136
what year was that

>> No.68498194

>>68497980
The irony of this post

>> No.68498244

SURELY you guys have a clip or a timestamp of her saying anything that could be interpreted as hololive bad right my little chinks?

>> No.68498278

>>68496642
Choose your evil

>> No.68498310

>>68497953
Meanwhile behind the scenes they forbid her from collabing with EN and turned Chinese antis into mods so they could ban her actual fans. Cover just went the route that got them the most money. All the goodbye merch and superchats went straight into Yagoo's pocket.

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>>68496642
You're right, but some are certainly better to their talents than others

>> No.68498340

>>68496642
…except Vshojo, of course! Zero downsides to joining them.

>> No.68498344

>>68498310
proof next thread?

>> No.68498383

It wasn't Cover, Coco took the fall to appease the soulless chinks to save the others

>> No.68498400

>>68496954
That company gave mod status to her antis btw

>> No.68498445

>>68497312
I'm glad she can watch Youtube videos and browse unfunny memes without evil corpo regulations

>> No.68498491

>>68498335
They're real quiet about this one lmao

>> No.68498507

>>68498310
Exactly nice job funding Covers next incompetent business adventure

>> No.68498514

>>68498136
Only against nonsense rumors using her name. Why did she leave again? Because it was a trash place to work at.

>> No.68498552

>>68496642
>The best nijikeks can do is resurrect a yab from 4 years ago
Grim

>> No.68498584

>>68498194
There are no rumors being spread about Cover in my post. What they did to Coco is all well known.

>> No.68498586

>>68498445
You’d eat it up if Gura started doing the same thing hypocrite

>> No.68498593

>>68498400
That was an accident you retarded nijishill

>> No.68498679

>>68498586
Yes, and? It's different when it's Gura.

>> No.68498681
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>>68497312
>by Cover
you mean by zhang

>> No.68498682

>>68498400
Yeah that one is just unforgivable, how could that possibly be a mistake and even if it was they’d have tried to undo it immediately

>> No.68498705
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>>68498593

>> No.68498708

>>68498552
The two things that happened too Selen and Coco are very similar and yet you’ll keep slurping yagoos cock

>> No.68498762

>>68496642
What if my friends are all one-man LLCs for tax purposes?

>> No.68498768

>>68496642
Reminder that (You) don't have any friends at all.

>> No.68498770

>>68498705
You lose all credibility when you post a grifting chink who failed to start her own agency twice and tried to make a living off NFTs

>> No.68498774

>>68498708
>yet you’ll keep slurping yagoos cock
proud of it too, nijikek

>> No.68498784

>>68498679
Only because Gura has the blue Dorito mark. Lol you hypocrite

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>>68498770
>i will ignore your post and criticize your reaction image instead

>> No.68498876

>>68498708
>yet you’ll keep slurping yagoos cock
Now say that without Riku's cock in yours.

>> No.68498903

>>68498784
Yes, exactly. I'm glad you understand. Your slop will never be able to do what Gura does, because your slop has no blue dorito mark.

>> No.68498907

>>68498860
>>/vt/?task=search2&search_filename=smug%20selen.jpg

>numbertroon

>> No.68498947

I'm using cyberpunk for this example fuck it
>Jackie if you work for arasaka Intel you're always fucked. -V

>> No.68498964

>they bullied her into graduating!
>they modded antis on purpose!
>she wasn‘t allowed to collab with HoloEN!
Any other nijilies I forgot?

>> No.68498966
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>>68498907
I know you are but what am I?

>> No.68499098

>>68498964
How is that in any way related to Niji. Holy rent free. Fucking newfag

>> No.68499107

>>68498964
How are any of those things lies?

>> No.68499157

>>68499098
You Nijikeks aren't subtle, come on now. By the way, who do you think is next? Will it be Aster, Luca, or Scarle?

>> No.68499177

>>68498903
Ok keep enjoying the Holoslop

>> No.68499210

>>68498708
There's nothing wrong with being submissive to a superior man like Yagoo.

>> No.68499242

>>68499107
>didn‘t happen
>wasn‘t on purpose
>she did collab with them

>> No.68499280

>>68499177
I don't even need to watch streams to enjoy my holos, nijikek.

>> No.68499293

>>68496642
>That corpo gave her the most glorious graduation ever

>> No.68499309

>>68499157
I’ve only watched Holo JP since 2019 unlike you newfag. I know all the fucked up shit cover has done. Do your research.

>> No.68499314

>>68499242
did happen
it was on purpose, you can't possibly mod people accidentally
only after she announced her graduation because if they kept her in the banishment room then it would have looked really bad for the corp

>> No.68499374

So best case is that Cover is run by total retards who fucked Coco over by accident?

>> No.68499396

>>68499309
I've been in this since 2020, sit the fuck down, you're not special. Now go on and answer my question.

>> No.68499424

>>68497312
Everyone have a good laugh at this lying faggot.

>> No.68499488

>>68499374
I'll take that over actual malice like what's been going on at Niji lmao

>> No.68499509

>>68498708
>>68499177
>t.Nijifaggot

>> No.68499524

>>68499374
No, because she caused an international incident. In any case, she is the idiot.

>> No.68499545

>>68498708
oh yeah, they're so similar! Funny how I can see all the videos and past streams posted in Coco's channel, yet Selen's channel has been scrubbed clean. So similar tho!

>> No.68499558

>>68496642
>Reminder that corporations are not your friends
https://twitter.com/LossThief/status/1755273672506384549

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68499576

>>68496642
Yeah just like vtubers are not your friends either

>> No.68499605

>>68499314
Keep lying, faggot.

>> No.68499617

>>68499374
The truth is that Cover is malicious.

>> No.68499625

>>68498708
Coco was attacked by outsiders and Cover supported her for months, even pulling out of the entire Chinese market, before having her graduate as a last resort.

Selen was attacked from within the company and Niji couldn't wait to terminate her and throw her under the bus to protect her bullies and their incompetent management staff.

You cannot be this retarded.

>> No.68499665

>>68499625
cover wouldn't let her have moderators until 6 months into the daily abuse

>> No.68499675

why cant people admit that cover did coco dirty
even some holos have shown minor dissatisfaction with cover you arent breaking some terrible taboo

>> No.68499683

>>68498586
Funny that you say this when Gura said she wanted to do this and all her fans told her to fuck off

>> No.68499687

>>68499576
Fauna's not my friend, she's my wife.

>> No.68499766

>>68499617
Proof next thread? or are you gonna tell me to "do my research" and leave it at that?

>> No.68499797

>>68499665
Kys nijinigger

>> No.68499828

>>68499766
Why terminate Rushia and Mel? Because they hated them

>> No.68499848

>>68499675
People can't admit something that is false.

>> No.68499852

>>68499797
not an argument. supporting a black company doesn't make you any better than nijifags.

>> No.68499939

>>68499828
They were terminated for breaking their contracts you fucking retard

>> No.68499974

Reminder that any of the girls still at the company are just ad bad as the management.
"Love the talent hate the management" is a fallacy.

>> No.68499981

>>68499852
>>68499828
Yes, I'm better than you faggots.

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>>68499675
the fandom has entered the cult stage. any criticism of the product is a criticism of themselves so they reject it.

>> No.68500015

>>68499852
"Maybe if we call Cover a black company enough times it'll become true!"

>> No.68500029
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>>68499828

>> No.68500045
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>>68499625
They’re already back in China you idiot. They got rid of Coco so they could eventually go back

>> No.68500065

>>68499993
Fuck off

>> No.68500074

>>68499993
and the brownvtm nigger finally reveals himself

>> No.68500083

>>68499939
Where's the proof that they did anything like that.
>b-but Mel said she was in the wrong
A japanese woman being spineless bootlicker is not proof of anything.

>> No.68500128

>>68496881
CEO of sex.

>> No.68500148

>>68500045
Not official retard

>> No.68500154
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>>68498708
>the situation where one talent was mismanaged due to sheer incompetence and retardedness and the talent got disillusioned and asked to leave, despite cover's attempts at mending it by getting rid of the entire CN branch and cutting ties with chinks altogether, and was given a huge sendoff where she got to play and chat with every single coworker in the company, make fun of the CEO for a few minutes, perform with her genmates and release her first and last original song, while keeping all her content up and all doors open in case she wanted to return
>the situation where one liver was being cockblocked by management for years over the most retarded shit, to the point the liver herself went ahead and did their fucking job for them, pissing them off in the process for not following their non-existent perms protocol and cockblocking her last project which she spent 15k on and wanted to release as a christmas gift and got her suspended, after which she reached a breaking point and tried to an hero while they decided to terminate her without letting her know, erase her channel before they even announce it, write a 3 long page explaining she sucks and they rock, and then say her termination is negligible on their finances
>these are very similar situations bro

>> No.68500172

Imagine simping for a corporation.

>> No.68500186

Thank you for reminding me that Cover made the best choice of leaving West Taiwan. Thank you Coco, get fucked bugmen.

>> No.68500196

>>68500148
that cope has been debunked

>> No.68500198
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>>68500083
>NO!!! DON'T TAKE MEL'S WORD THAT SHE DID SOMETHING WRONG!!!!!! TAKE MY WORD THAT THEY'RE A BLACK COMPANY LIKE MY NIJISANI!!! THEY'RE THE SAME!!!

>> No.68500231

>>68500045
Retard those are made by the community. No holomem is touching bilibili.

>> No.68500249

>>68500172
something that kson has done.

>> No.68500285

>>68500231
those are official translated clips, it's also monetized and cover is selling concert tickets on their channel

>> No.68500286

>>68498310
Try to make it believable next time, shitposter kun or NDF retard. Us oldfags are laughing at a lot of these claims.

>> No.68500289

>>68498708
Yagoo has the bigger cock

>> No.68500345

>>68500083
Well gee hmm, who should I believe? The girl herself, and the statement made on the day of her termination, or some brownoid on /vt/? What a conundrum...

>> No.68500364

>>68500249
sega is a white company

>> No.68500377

>>68496642
Corporations are not my friend, but you are my enemy.

>> No.68500379

>>68500198
Why are you acting like you didn't see all those nips saying Selen was in the wrong? Mel has that same mindset.

>> No.68500385

>>68500083
you're right, I'm better off believing what a dumb retard in an anonymous site says than the talent herself.

>> No.68500398
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>>68500231
>>68500148
This is like the 2nd thread you guys have been wrong lol

>> No.68500431

>>68500364
I was talking about vshojo,fag.

>> No.68500436

>>68500345
You could believe kson who made her reasons for "quitting" very clear.

>> No.68500445

>>68499828
>Because they hated them
Why would they hate Mel?

>> No.68500512

>>68500445
Hololive management and certain talents are evil

>> No.68500513

>Hololive never cockblocks anything
https://youtu.be/KGbugvZZT6g?si=BkjQSLsU6Rls9zNm

>> No.68500524

>>68500398
If you could read Japanese you'd know that's just an announcement that Bilibili can now rebroadcast events or something along those lines. Cover isn't "back in China" lmao, not that your EOP ass would know that

>> No.68500531

>>68500512
Proof?

>> No.68500537

>>68496642
didnt they literally kill an entire branch for her sake?

>> No.68500540

>>68500431
>i'm here because they gave me a good deal but would go somewhere else if they gave me a better deal
>simping

>> No.68500547

>>68498335
>>68498340
/thread

>> No.68500561

>>68500398
Hololivetv isn‘t run by cover you troglodyte

>> No.68500587

>>68500512
And yet which agency is currently up to its eyeballs in hot water due to confirmed (and admitted) bullying within the agency?

>> No.68500631

>>68500524
>>68500561
outrageously high levels of copium detected, someone call a doctor

>> No.68500635

>>68500540
Yes, you are a newfag who doesn't remember what he said when she joined.

>> No.68500640

Unions are the only way to protect yourself from being fucked by corporations that have no interest in treated you like a person.

>> No.68500681

>>68499828
>>68500083
Grab some rope for yourself, Nijifaggot.

>> No.68500688

>>68500513
Can't believe they stealth suspended Pekora over this, they even fired her without letting her appeal or know despite her wanting to leave on neutral terms if there was no agreement... wait...

>> No.68500692

>>68500587
Which agency knew a talent was married and still scammed fans into buying a engagement ring?

>> No.68500695

>>68500128
stop stealing titles, cuckling.

>> No.68500730

>>68500631
Knowing what they actually said is now "copium", got it

>> No.68500750

>>68500640
And who protects you from the Unions? I prefer corporations to those communists.

>> No.68500776

>>68500692
Is this the best NDF can do?

>> No.68500813

>>68500692
Answer the question, anon. Which agency? And answer without digging up holodrama that's more than a year old.

>> No.68500824

>>68500512
Your larp is boring, Nijifaggot.

>> No.68500854

>>68500531
Mel and Rushia's nonsense terminations.

>>68500587
The reason why it hasn't happened to holo yet is because they have not driven out anyone from EN yet.

>> No.68500891

>>68500692
>cover is just as bad as kurosanji!
>they let their talents sell any kind of merch they desire in spite of their personal life status!
are you fucking stupid? lol
the fuck kind of angle is this after you nijiniggers keep using her termination as a gotcha?

>> No.68500918

>>68500854
>yet
Is this version 2 of "2 more weeks" or something?

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>>68500379
>Why are you acting like you didn't see all those nips saying Selen was in the wrong?
Why are you acting like those posts weren't cross-posted from a NijiJP boot licking site? The average Nip neither knows or cares about NijiEN or it's talents and the ones that do are either HoloCHADS making fun of Niji or NijiJP bootlickers coping.

>> No.68500934

>>68500681
When did I ever defend niji? They're even worse.

>> No.68500937

>>68496642
Nice troll dipshit

Reminder that Cover dropped Hololive CN and all connections with China for her and Haachama's sake all because fickle Chinese losers couldn't handle them innocently acknowledging Taiwan is a country.

It was the absolutely most based thing a corpo could do. Go fuck yourself.

>> No.68500959

>>68500854
>nonsense terminations
Except that's not what happened.

>> No.68500961

>>68500891
If nijiniggers had a brain they wouldn't be nijiniggers

>> No.68500988

>>68500854
>terminating someone for breaking NDA is nonsense
Good to know you've never really held a job

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>>68500854
>they fired mel because they hate her
>why would they hate her?
>they're evil
>how do you know
>they fired mel
uh huh

>> No.68501004

trying too hard sis
everyone knows cover is a good guy here
and you can't change it

>> No.68501011

>>68500688
They made her waste a ton of money on something she was later told to drop.

>> No.68501012

>>68500937
No they didn’t you retard look above they’re already back in the Chinese market

>> No.68501051

>>68500934
Coco was fired more than two years ago, there is no point in talking about it now.

>> No.68501058

>>68500045
How retarded are you? You see the ching chong name has "official" next to it and you believe it lmao

>> No.68501097

>>68501051
The raffians need to know their history.

>> No.68501107

>>68500398
>>68500436
>>68500512
>>68500631
>>68500692
>>68500854
This can't be the best NDF has to offer, surely.

>> No.68501115

>>68501011
Not only that I remember she had Almost a full meltdown on a members stream because she wanted too do something nice for her fans but Cover said no because they’re greedy fucks

>> No.68501117

>>68499993
Kill yourself brownvt

>> No.68501122

>>68500854
>nonsense terminations.
You have got to be underaged, you dont break NDA its one of those few things that gets you instantly fired, no one can save you, even if they wanted to.

>> No.68501163

>>68500924
So all HOLOCHADS said "Yeah Mel is totally wrong and should have been fired"? Sounds awful lot like those niji bootlickers.

>> No.68501186

>>68501011
>>68501115
They can make it up to her by rerunning her merch, they have a revenue cut higher than 2% after all.
And most importantly, Pekora was not thrown under the bus nor driven to attempted suicide.

>> No.68501189

>>68501115
>defending the 2% company
>"Cover are greedy fucks"
Come on now, really?

>> No.68501218

>>68501115
>I remember
You don't
You don't follow her
You can't understand japanese
You can't even afford to spend 5 bucks a month

>> No.68501244

>>68500959
>>68500988
Where's the proof that she should have been fired? Nip groveling comments are not proof.

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>>68496642
You're brown

>> No.68501286

>>68500918
niji is only in trouble because they fucked over an en member. you can fuck over jp members as much as you want, japan has a bootlicking culture they will always side with the corpo. niji has been axing talents left and right for the past three years and nobody cares.

>> No.68501292

>>68501051
>Coco was fired
You mean she quit to pursue her "talent freedom" after the company killed a huge market for her.

>> No.68501291

*Charge up her mana*

>> No.68501330

>>68501244
Because that's how a fucking employment contract with an NDA works, kid. I know you've never held a job before due to being underage but surely even you can understand this.

>> No.68501438

>>68501292
You're right, I was confused for a moment.

>> No.68501473

>>68501286
And yet in these last 4 years HoloJP has lost only 4 members. How many NijiJP members have been lost in that time? Can you even name them all?

>> No.68501476

>>68501218
You don't need to do any of those things to be aware because the entire stream was leaked here and AI translators get past the language issue.

>> No.68501536

>>68501163
That's what Mel said, that she was to blame.

>> No.68501550

>>68501476
>not denying being too poor to afford $5/month
NDFbros...

>> No.68501567

>>68500750
>And who protects you from the Unions?
Question; why do you need to be protected from organizations who's entire goal is to make sure you get paid properly and are treated like a person by an employer?

>> No.68501589

>>68501473
no because i don't give a fuck about niji retard lmao. it's not a contest you illiterate ape i'm just explaining why it's blowing up now. the same will happen to cover whenever an en member breaks their hecking nda.

>> No.68501604

>>68501244
>Nip groveling
NDA is not a nip thing underage kun, burgerland has it europe has it, hell even SEA and china has it.

>> No.68501627

>>68501244
They don't have to prove anything to you, you're not even a fan.

>> No.68501663

>>68501476
I can't even grasp how someone can be THIS retarded, it's beyond me

>> No.68501674

So many retarded, seething nijiniggers in here. Retards trying their best to rewrite history on what happened to Coco and Mel

>> No.68501678

>>68501589
Sure, sure. You're all very subtle and have us all fooled. Good job. Just make sure you cherish your oshi, anon. Never know what might happen to them, or when, or by who.

>> No.68501734

>>68501567
because they are pure evil.

>> No.68501741

>>68501678
that's so true sister keep deepthroating black company boots

>> No.68501749

>>68501473
(me) I just looked, it's 22. 22 NijiJP members in the same time that HoloJP's lost 4. How about that?

>> No.68501761

>>68501734
Source?

>> No.68501765

>>68501589
There will be no shitstorm if there's no discrepancy, you fucking retard. The reason this Selen case exploded was because Selen was refuting everything Kurosanji was saying, and has evidence and testimonies that back up the fact she was being treated like shit. If Kurosanji had fired her over something legitimate and she had just moved on some people would be pissed but there would've been no shitstorm.

>> No.68501783

>>68500512
Hanlon's razor

>> No.68501830

>>68501761
I am the source

>> No.68501840

>>68501012
That image isn't proof of anything, and even if it was the case that Cover started doing business in China again, it wouldn't change the fact that they did drop China when Coco and Haachama were getting harassed by Chinese antis.

>> No.68501867

>>68501830
Cool, you sound full of shit.

>> No.68501892

>>68501589
>the same will happen to cover whenever an en member breaks their hecking nda
No shit retard. That's called being an adult with a job is. You signed and agreed to a contract that once you break, you get fired. Get a job

>> No.68502054

>>68501765
nah that's cope. en holofags had a meltdown when haato and coco got suspended and there was no discrepancy there. the en market inherently doesn't like erasing an entire talent's years of work without their consent and they're gonna be mad when it happens to a dorito chuuba.
>>68501892
thanks for the input big job boy that's some very valuable insight into this discussion

>> No.68502119

>>68501867
It's a shame that you can't accept the truth and all you can do is cope.

>> No.68502148

>>68502054
>the en market inherently doesn't like erasing an entire talent's years of work without their consent
This happens for terminations, of which HoloJP has only had 3 in the last 4 years, not suspensions. Try to keep up.

>> No.68502190

>>68502119
What am I coping about, you can't even tell me why i can't trust unions.

>> No.68502206

>>68502054
what discussion? all you do is lie.

>> No.68502261

>>68501589
you're a fucking retard if you think there wouldn't be a shitstorm if pekora or marine or suisei got fired over bullshit that's half as petty as the reason selen got terminated. luckily no such reason has been grounds for termination for any holo, did you notice how not even rushia with how fucked in the head she is and how trigger happy she is fought against the decision? i fucking wonder why someone would not bitch about a losing case.

>>68502054
the fuck does haachama's suspension have to do with terminations? if there was any heat about it it was because of lack of communication, nobody likes hearing about their oshi being suspended without being given a reason.

>> No.68502269

>>68502190
you can't trust anyone,kid.

>> No.68502352

>>68502054
>Proud of being jobless leech reliant on handouts
Kek. Don't forget to take out the trash and clean mom's basement

>> No.68502357
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68502357

Nijisanji lost. So now Nijifags have decided to go the Jihadi suicide bomber route and try to drag everyone down and act like everyone is as black as Riku.

>> No.68502381

>>68501567
No, goal number one is to protect the privileges and pay of the union officials and their personal friends. If you don't cross those guys hopefully they can be bothered to help you out.

>> No.68502383

>>68499828
There's plenty of legitimate reasons to criticise cover, the green hair cracked out psycho is not one of them.

>> No.68502405

>>68502148
very smooth goalpost moving attempt but i'm gonna have to say nah
>>68502206
get back to work old man you're out of your element
>>68502261
they would choose the boot if pekora or marine were fired. the company is always right. the employee is in the wrong if they don't work with the company even at their own expense. there's no excuse for getting fired. i don't think you understand jp culture.

>> No.68502541

>>68502405
>i don't think you understand jp culture.
You admitted back here >>68501476
to needing AI translation to understand a Pekora membership stream, shut the fuck up.

>> No.68502548

Anyway, don't get fucked by your employer. Your management has no interest in protecting your interests, maintain good relationships with your coworkers and know what your work is worth. Join or form a union.

>> No.68502604

>>68502541
>there's only one anon in this thread

>> No.68502624

>>68502405
Shut up you moron, no one believes your lies.

>> No.68502682

>>68502405
>they would choose the boot if pekora or marine were fired. the company is always right.
the only situation where they would choose the boot is if they were rightfully terminated if they violated their contract and they also admitted to it. did you ignore everything i said? once again, why the fuck do you think not even rushia fought against it when she's known to love getting into legal wars? and once again, you really think if the reasons were as retarded as selen's and pekora or marine spoke about it people wouldn't take her side? but you already answered that, so you are indeed fucking retarded.

>> No.68502691

>>68502604
>goalpost moving

>> No.68502743

>>68502261
>you're a fucking retard if you think there wouldn't be a shitstorm if pekora or marine or suisei got fired over bullshit
All of them would say they were in the wrong and accept their termination and the "fans" would agree. There are no vtuber fans in japanese corpos, only corpo bootlickers.

>> No.68502759

>>68502548
go back to r*ddit,newfag.

>> No.68502801

>>68502759
Fucking make me :^)

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>>68501279

>> No.68502812

>>68502624
it's literally happening right now in niji jp. they are melting down their own possessions to make riku's yacht longer as we speak. you can see with your own eyes what they're saying. they love boots.
>>68502691
that isn't what that phrase means

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>>68502743

>> No.68502879

>>68502743
>There are no vtuber fans in japanese corpos, only corpo bootlickers.
Nijibros...

>> No.68502884

>>68502383
She was fired unjustifiably. That has nothing to do with her being a bad person or not.

>> No.68502903

>>68502812
you gave me two (You), I think I won.

>> No.68502907

>>68502743
once again, then, you're a fucking retard. you think if pekora had been terminated after >>68500513 she would not cause a shitstorm and have her fans go on a witch hunt?

>> No.68502962

>>68502832
hololive just fired their third most senior talent and nobody cared. niji fired like a dozen gen1 talents and nobody cares. niji's star idols quit because the company is shit and nobody cares. in japan, the company is never wrong.

>> No.68502965

>>68502884
nope and nope

>> No.68502977

>>68502884
>She was fired unjustifiably.
Proof?

>> No.68503033

>>68502884
She broke NDA and leaked information to a fucking dramatuber, fuck off with "unjustifiably".
>>68502907
Your entire point is moot because Cover doesn't terminate over nothing, that's Niji's niche.

>> No.68503050

>>68502962
>hololive just fired their third most senior
false

>> No.68503062

>>68502977
she contested the details of her termination notice

>> No.68503067

>>68502907
Cover can just say she broke NDA and everyone would accept her firing.

>> No.68503082

>>68497980
She actually said it retardchama

>> No.68503092

>>68496642
Wrong.

>> No.68503126

>>68503062
So because she said "nuh uh", that renders the contract she willingly signed completely null and void? That's a hell of a trick, I'll remember that one.

>> No.68503145

>>68503067
false

>> No.68503153

>>68503050
Mel was the third member to debut in hololive.

>> No.68503158

>>68503126
i didn't read the contract. did you read the contract?

>> No.68503171

>>68498514
No and because Nijifags and Zhangs are randomly target her friends and sponsors

>> No.68503209

>>68503062
i don't remember those details. care to elaborate? i'll gladly concede.
>>68503067
you can't just claim someone broke NDA like that without expecting to get sued up the ass for it you fucking moron.

>> No.68503226

>>68503158
The contract isn't public you idiot, none of us have.

>> No.68503224

>>68503145
That's literally what they did to Mel and Rushia

>> No.68503267

>>68503153
nope

>> No.68503294

>>68503067
That's called a wrongful termination (as well as possible slander) and that is a lawsuit-worthy offense in Japan as well as elsewhere.

>> No.68503293

>>68503209
>you can't just claim someone broke NDA like that without expecting to get sued up the ass for it you fucking moron
Well Cover literally just did that.

>> No.68503319

>>68503209
>care to elaborate
no
>>68503209
>you can't just claim someone broke NDA like that
you can in japan

>> No.68503356

>>68503293
really? i don't remember any of the two terminated girls suing them for wrongful termination.
>>68503319
oh so you're just bullshitting? got it.

>> No.68503364

>>68496881
>>68500695
Sorry brownfeet, no matter how many times you ask, Fauna and I will NOT let you watch while we have sex. Now go back to cleaning your keyboard, it's filthy.

>> No.68503365

>>68503293
Ok so she didn't break NDA then, what did she do anon? Why did they fire her? And why hasn't Cover been sued up the ass for it?

>> No.68503378

>>68503224
Yes, but they did it. In your hypothetical case Hololive would be lying. Also the fans complained

>> No.68503416

I want Nijifags angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqTA58UkGkA

>> No.68503436

>>68503356
i'm not bullshitting i just don't care enough about this subject to spend 10 minutes searching through her twitter. she and her lawyer made a statement on her fantia or whatever that site she uses is.

>> No.68503459

>Act dumb get (you)s
The oldest trolling strat in the book

>> No.68503486

>>68503436
I dunno, kinda sounds to me like you're bullshitting.

>> No.68503494

>>68497321
>>68497803
>>68497980
>>68498514
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150

>> No.68503509

>>68497321
I remember a time when anons would bully you with image macros when you posted bullshit without evidence.

>> No.68503580

>>68503436
>I'm not bullshitting, I just can't be bothered to show proof of anything I say

>> No.68503589 [DELETED] 

>>68503494
What is this supposed to prove monkey

>> No.68503652

>>68503416
reminds me of when selen meme'd riku
>>68503486
>>68503580
sorry that you didn't keep up with the biggest vtuber news story of last year. search the archives for mikeneko statement if you are that interested

>> No.68503700

https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1755427988508926150

The real question here is what is kson hinting at?

>> No.68503713

>>68503652
I mean, you brought it up. Only fair that you personally show me what you mean, no?

>> No.68503735

>>68503700
hololive is trash meant for animals to play in

>> No.68503752

Yes Nijisanji is cartoonishly evil
Yes Cover fumbled the Coco situation
Both statements can be true jesus christ

>> No.68503799

>>68503752
Nijisanji is cartoonishly **more** evil

>> No.68503805

>>68503713
no. i do not have to spent minutes of my time looking through old posts to find basic facts that everyone knows because you want to play dumb.

>> No.68503828

>>68503752
You can't compare incompetence to malice, anon. That's what this thread was made to do, though.

>> No.68503886

>>68503828
this whole thing started over niji's gross incompetence by having no managers for the en branch

>> No.68503890

>>68503805
ogey

>> No.68503896

>>68496642
Isn't that obvious?

>> No.68503935

>>68503436
well i looked it up because those details are completely gone from my memory, and she contested it by claiming she had been mistreated internally and then backing off when her lawyer told her to quit talking, after which she held a short twitcast where she essentially said "i've been misunderstood".

>> No.68503945

>>68503805
So it was "basic facts" that mikeneko was unjustly terminated? There's a paper trail and tweets we can see that show this?

>> No.68503963

>>68503886
Agreed on that, I suppose. Their claim that Selen's departure is comparable to Coco's is simply not true though, for the reason I explained.

>> No.68504348

>>68503752
>Both statements can be true jesus christ
any retard denying coco being mistreated is a moron, however you then have actual retards like >>68498708 claiming selen's case was the same as coco's just so they can play their whatabout game.

corpos suck, but also they give you opportunities you normally wouldn't have, and contracts are involved. some people can put up with it. don't like it? go indie, it's a fucking risk vs reward game. that doesn't change the fact that your typical corpo bullshit can be at least handled humanely (mel, rushia and coco) instead of like a fucking cartoon villain (selen). nijiniggers arguing that the "wrongful termination" of some holos based on fucking nothing but "corpo bad" is the same as the extremely overtly vile shit that they did to selen makes me sick.

>> No.68504628

>>68504348
They were almost the same. If Cover was slightly dumber they could have fired her instead of suspending and the community's reaction would be pretty similar to how it is now with Selen. EN would seethe while JP would say "yea she lost them a lot of chinabucks" and carry on business as usual.

>> No.68504688

>>68496642
>>68503705
while the sisters are trying to turn Coco into an anti-Cover totem she is proudly posting about owning hololive merch
you just can't stop losing, huh?

>> No.68504723

>>68504628
NO and JP Holofags will burn Cover to the ground

>> No.68504732

>>68504628
This cope is hilarious lmao
>If Cover was as retarded and malicious as Nijisanji is then these situations would be TOTALLY the same!

>> No.68504844

>>68504628
For it to be even remotely the same they should've not only fired her but stealth suspend her while trying to delete all her content before even announcing her termination and airing all her fuck ups (imagine Cover writing a 3 page long about how she shouldn't have hurt the chinks' feelings by saying Taiwan), and not even tell her she got terminated, while she asked to be let go in neutral terms. But if you ask me that sounds incredibly out of character for them.

>> No.68504861

>>68504348
it was the same you moron they gave coco no chance but too graduate she was in her own walled off hole away from everyone else. devious but smart pr move

>> No.68504971

>>68504861
Stop pushing that retarded years old rrat

>> No.68505028

>>68504861
>it was the same you moron
Boy I sure do love watching Coco's old content in the year 2024, 4 years after she was GRADUATED. I even love watching the bittersweet GRADUATION stream where she was given a proper sendoff by all the other members, as well as the VODs for the streams leading up to it since she thankfully wasn't stealth-suspended leading right up to her departure. Thank god she wasn't TERMINATED otherwise we wouldn't have anything like that.

>> No.68505035

>>68504861
>they gave coco no chance but too graduate
coco LITERALLY talked about how cover were sucking her dick behind the scenes begging her to stay, and said she couldn't because no matter how well they treated her she wanted to do X while they could only compromise with her doing Y. she technically can still join back if she wants to.

>> No.68505214

>>68503589
>deleted
kek he noticed

>> No.68505255

>>68501097
Are you that schizo who thinks ruffians don’t know who coco is? I came here specifically to laugh at you

>> No.68505371

>>68503945
>unjustly
Fucking kek

>> No.68505537

>>68505028
Boy I sure love watching Mel’s old content oh wait. Boy I sure love watching old playthroughs before permission hell that cover said they would restore oh wait…

>> No.68505632

>>68505537
>Boy I sure love watching old playthroughs before permission hell that cover said they would restore oh wait…
You can unironically blame nijiniggers for mass reporting Mio on that.

>> No.68505669

>>68505214
OH NONONONO

>> No.68505814

>>68505537
>Mel’s old content
Again, that's the difference between a TERMINATION and a SUSPENSION/GRADUATION, fucking retard. And you can thank your fellow Nijikeks for causing Mio's permissions hell, given all the damage they deliberately caused her. Anycolor's lucky Cover didn't sue for damages.

>> No.68505885

>>68505537
>Boy I sure love watching Mel’s old content oh wait.
You really wanna play that game, nijinigger? lol

>> No.68506099

>>68504688
Kek they just can’t stop taking Ls.
It’s always during these hours that ndf awakens on mass, only to bring up coco and rushia and hardly actually talk about Nijisanji at all. The desperation is palpable.

>> No.68506294

>>68506099
deflection is the only way now.
>always during these hours
>sea hours have just started
is anyone really surprised?

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>>68506099
>>68506294
They're coming...

>> No.68506550

>>68497553
we get it, you dont like <company>

>> No.68506621

>>68506099
What is there to say about Niji? That you guys haven’t spammed the board talking about? I just think it’s funny how you think Hololive isn’t very similar

>> No.68506674

>>68506621
That's because they're not, regardless of whatever fanfiction you want to write up that claims otherwise.

>> No.68506774

>>68506621
let’s hope another niji isn’t pushed to suicide. Zaion was on suicide watch when she left, I hope this internal bullying situation is sorted out

>> No.68506862

>>68506674
Maybe if you keep repeating it will come true. We’ve shown you so many examples ITT but you keep sticking your head in the sand. Niji is bad and so is Cover have fun paying for overpriced merch and seething whenever holostars are mentioned

>> No.68506878

>>68506774
It won't be and you know it, because it's either the clique or management (likely both) that's responsible for it.

>> No.68506943

>>68506862
>Niji is bad and so is Cover
Maybe if you keep repeating it will come true, as you say. By the way, I'm not fucking poor so merch prices don't bother me, and my oshi ignores male streamers so I'm unaffected by that too. Let's hope your oshi doesn't commit suicide!

>> No.68506961

>>68506862
>We’ve
kek, sign your faction name faggot

>> No.68507118

>>68506961
Look at the apostrophe in your quote.

>> No.68507207

>>68507118
oh shit

>> No.68507567

>>68504723
no they wouldn't

>> No.68507603

>>68506621
>spammed
Now you’re just upset anons are talking about Nijisanji kek

>> No.68508180

>>68506878
They can change their ways, maybe. They seem to care a whole lot about money so if this “negligible financial impact” ends up hurting them, they’ll try something different.

>> No.68508300

>>68508180
they care about money out of asia. they probably wouldn’t change even if a liver was successful in their attempt if china bucks are still flowing in

>> No.68508384

>>68496954
absolutely true but still i hate you for saying it.

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>>68508180
Name a single corp who changed their ways for the better instead of just continuing beatings until morale improved

>> No.68509538

>>68508525
the one that destroyed their entire Chinese branch after talents were being harassed by angry zhangs.
Taiwan numba one btw

>> No.68509636

>>68509538
And left the Chinese market/stopped appealing to China in general. Coco showing taiwan on her stream became a horror story thanks to Zhangs. I’ll never be happier they dropped that shithole.

>> No.68509703

>>68508384
fair enough, I miss her dragon tits

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