/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68477826
im a drama nigger

>>68477826
I don't watch niji. simple as.

>>68477826
They were waiting for niji to crash and burn.

>>68477826
now that she's out of niji i will watch her

>>68477826
well, she was niji-affiliated so I unsubbed a long time ago because of that.

>>68477826
I always liked her but I refuse to watch niji

>>68477826
lol

>>68477826
vod watchers faggot.

>>68477826
I don't watch nijitrash, but since she's a freebird indie now, I will watch her.
Kill yourself Enna/Millie.

>>68477826
for her to leave ninji you retarded nigger

>>68478682
vodlords unite

>>68477826
Where did all the Nijisanji fans, sponsors and shareholders go in the last 60 hours, Millie?

>>68477826
I watched vods to workout to.
This is a special event so I wanted to see it live.

>>68478719
>>68478346
This. I will never watch niggersanji. But since Doki isn't niggersanji, I will watch her. simple as.

>>68477826
niji fucking sucks

>>68477826
>Out of Niji
I will now watch your streams.

Sayu never got this much attention when she left. Why the difference in treatment?

>>68477826
Nijisisters mad their company is going to shit kek, so they are spamming a bunch of anti-Doki threads.

>>68477826
I'm literally just watching to see if she spills anything. I probably won't watch her again.

>>68477826
Never once cared for EN niji, all of them can go die in a fire, but if they leave and they are good people then i'll follow.

my hate for nijisanji was bigger. I literally stopped watching her because I couldn't give niji a view, even if it was for her.
I wonder if there are any other viewers who did the same thing, if that were the case, then that would explain some of the viewers, plus drama buff and bots

I don't watch niji

Most of those are people who didn't know she existed a week ago and are just there because it's the big current drama on twitter

>>68478545
>hated Kurosanji before it was cool
I kneel

>>68478837
This boring cunt can't even make good ASMR after multiple years.

I only watch Holos and Indies.

Seems like I got a new indie to watch

>>68477826
I simply refuse to watch Nijisanji, now i can finally check her out

>>68477826
I am both a dramafag and casual Selen viewer; I normally don't watch debut streams, but im making an exception

>>68477826
I stopped watching when luxiem made nijisanji unbearable

>>68477826
I will not support nigger sanji in any way shape or form, not even for her

>>68477826
where did all the salome viewers go?

>>68477826
A mix of
Selen's own fans
Some Hololive fans who wouldn't touch Nijishit with a stick
A portion of the whole vtuber community
The former fans Nijishit bled over the years
People curious about drama
The audience of some flesh streamers and dramatubers who covered the drama.

>>68477826
Niji trying to burn her on her way out has been the most successful advertisement campaign for a vtuber ever. Really kind of them to give her such a big boost as a parting gift.

Seethe sister

>>68477826
Jesus Christ that number, can't believe how big this story must've got

>>68477826
I'd die before watching Kurosanji but Selen always intrigued me. Now I can actually watch her.

>>68477826
i dropped because i didn’t want to give anycolor metrics

>>68479522
prob almost every EN vtuber is watching this stream

didn't like her model plus midjisanji. I watch now

>>68477826
i don't like to watch corpotubers

>>68478168
fpbp

>>68479664
>my oshi was about to stream
>just announced a delay
Yep, kek

>>68477826
Even if Rosemi would stream dota I would never watch a nijisanji live stream

>>68478682
Selen didnt have a single vod that had over 100k views in the past 6 months

>>68477826
I don't watch nijis.

>>68479028
Try comparing the sub count.

>>68478346
spbp

>>68479315
She didn't say anything interesting so I stopped watching. I guess I'll wait for timestamps later. I thought she would go crazy but it's just a
>I'm back from break
stream

Most people watch Vtubers sporadically, so it is no surprise that the numbers are higher as Dragon and Nijifans have been starving without streams for over a month. I think she would peak at more or less 50k without the drama tourists tho

When is the drama happening. I'm getting bored.

>>68479028
Because she never tried to kill herself. Failed suicide attracts concernfags and normies like flies to shit.

>>68480358
at the end she said

>>68477826
wow op, nice detective skills, you've cracked the mystery of the huge numbers. At least 80% of the people here are from the drama. Who could have guessed this would happen.

>>68479028
Zaion's tenure in Niji was literally a couple of months.

>>68477826
can only watch live when I'm not working

>>68478168
Dramachad*

>>68480358
She can either focus on doing projects and new things which she wants to do or she can turn her focus on being vindictive to Niji, which honestly would be a waste of her time. I could be wrong but I don't think she's going to drop any new major drama. If someone steps in dog shit they want to wipe their feet free of shit and avoid it, not go stomping back in it.

>>68478168
Base

>>68477826
Not watching Niggersanji.

>>68477826
don't watch nijiniggers
do watch liggers
simple as

>>68477826
No one is pretending they were always her fans. Most of us are unashamedly here to see if the drama develops.

>>68477826
I only watch streams I'm interested in. Not interested in apelegs. I am interested in someone coming back after disappearing for so long.

>>68477826
Didn't like the Selen model, this one is sex.

>>68481481
Theres plenty of people pretending to be her fan.

>>68481481
Hi Rinku

>>68480556
>Selen was lying about the attempted suicide
>Kurosanji didn't take the opportunity to pounce on this supposed lie in their letter throwing her under the bus
Pick one, sister.

You know, all things aside, this is kind of a cozy stream. I was expecting way more awkwardness and jank. She's doing a great job

>>68481737
There are people pretending to support her, not pretending to be her friend. These people want to be in the stream to "feel good" about supporting a vtuber they believe was wronged.
After this stream or the next few streams, all these people will leave and go back to which ever vtuber they used to watch. None of these people are trying to be her fan. Maybe a few will get converted though.
>>68482058
Anon chama... your reading comprehension reps...

I'm only watching for juicy drama lmao. Don't care about this bitch or niji unless it's some yab

>>68481737
God i hate esl monkey shitstains so much.

>>68478168
Drama Nigs Represent!

>>68477826
I didn't feel like watching her much in the past though I did watch her but when something as fucked up as what happened to her happens most of us will flock towards her for support.
And we also got dramafags waiting for stuff to come out for example that she had to pay 200k on projects and had 0 gained income due to Niji's failure

>>68477826
OH NO SISTERS??

>>68478719
Same here.

>>68477826
We left cause she was Nijisanji, now she's not.

UNDERSTAND?

>>68477826
Rainbow Chain Chomp debuff

>>68482512 (me)
"pretending to be her FAN"
Sometimes I hate how I auto complete sentences.
Anyways, I'm also just here for the drama, even though I doubt any drama will drop because it'd be the stupidest thing for her to do.
We're not getting names or even hints at who the bullies were.

>>68477826
>Nijinigger
I sleep
>Indie with a negative opinion of Niji
Good shit.

Simple as.

>>68482883
huh, I couldve sword hololive did a world of warship collab last year but it was sctually in '21

>>68482058
When did I say she was lying? Point it out. Spell it out for me. Show me I said she was lying. Do it. I dare you, I double dog dare you. I Triple Dog Dare you. Do it.

>>68477826
i want niji to dissapear, simple as

>>68478346
This. She seems nice so I will watch her now that she is out of the nigger company.

>>68483768
calm down sister, no need to seethe THAT hard

>>68483991
Who will you shitpost about when niji is gone anon? Maybe you really need them after all

>>68484186
I will be at peace

>>68478168
based dramaCHAD

>>68477826
The fake laughing is annoying

>>68477826
You've never heard the term "making someone into a martyr"?

>>68478168
Literally me. I will NOT be watching her second stream.

>>68484153
By the laws of the internet, since you refuse to rise to my challenge, I have emerged the victor. Present your anus to me so that I may claim my prize.

>>68479028
Women made Sayu radioactive and unapproachable.

>>68483991
learn English and make this meme again.

>>68484382
>seething nijisister

>>68484382
It’s a mental disorder trust me I had it too for awhile when I was depressed and hopeless.

>>68483768
Come now, its obvious that anon can't read. They thought you were saying Doki never attempted suicide.You meant Sayu never attempted suicide so Sayu never drew in the concernfags.

>>68484497
I'm saving my anal virginity for Daddy Vox, sorry sis.. you know how it is.

>>68484616
lol yeah okay man, I highly doubt that it’s fake as fuck and the constant yelling. This bitch isn’t depressed lol

>>68477826
Anything crazy happen

>>68477826
drama buff

>>68485188
I’m just saying I had the same issue.
No need to be crude. Some people just try to laugh away the pain.

>>68484382
>>68485188

>>68484186
Phase and vshojo

>>68484807
Is Vox in to Bara men?

The way she laughs to keep from crying uuuuf she better keep going to the psychologist she is hanging on by a thread.

>>68478487
this

>>68477826
i've always been a niji anti so

>>68477826
This board before doki's redebut: "oh man she's gonna talk so much shit"
Her actual redebut: SCREAMING ABOUT NEOPETS

>>68477826
I dont care, i just want to see Niji burn

>>68486608
Anyone that thought she was going to go nuclear was retarded.

>>68485856
he doesn't have a fucking choice

>>68478346
Same thing, shit corpo dragging down their talents.

never heard of her until two days ago.

>>68477826
I was always watching her, so idk

Now that she talks about virginity... I can't imagine who got into that ...

>>68486786
This picture is fucking cursed.

>>68478168
Nijibased

>>68486771
bro wolf puberty

>>68477826
me see big number, me watch big number

>>68477826
Okay I'll be honest.

I thought Selen seemed like a cool chick, but her model was completely repulsive and unfuckable. What the fuck was even going on with that shitty hand and retarded looking face? She looked like she permanently had a down syndrome face.

Doki's model is better by a country mile, hands down without any question.
It's obvious why people would prefer to watch her over Selen based solely on what she looks like.

Purple dragon was fucking ugly and whoever designed her should be fired.
Doki is an angel that's begging for me to cum inside every living orifice.

>>68477826
If crying on camera is a woman's ult what is pretending to attempt suicide?

>>68487925
ult with limit break. And it worked.

>>68487907
My problem with it is that selen's voice and personality irradiates tomboyishness, and the doki model only fits because of the smugs.
I guess there's some level of gap moe but I want to see what she cooks next in terms of models.

>>68479522
why did i have to scroll this fucking far for a real non-spastic answer?
This board is so fucking bad.

>>68488076
That's a fair complaint, but if makes more sense if you look at her like animeified white trash.

>>68487907
>coom-only watcher
lowest breed of human

>>68488116
The answer you're looking for is tourists.

>>68487907
>reddit spacing
kys fag

>>68488116
What did you expect here?
This place is a little mad.

>>68479522
>The former fans Nijishit bled over the years
this is me.
Niji chased me off with their constant fan hatred and on principle i refused to watch any of them.

>>68487907
>>68488076
>>68488225
1 minute apart kek

>>68477826
when she stopped streaming good games and would only do apex and other boring slop maybe without permissions autism we can see other classic fps games, if not, then I will go back to not watching

>>68488293
Yeah, because that's what the space between her pussy lips will look like once I'm done with her.

You can keep your tiny 4chan spacing, the spacing I leave her with will be wider than an underachieving high schooler's English essay.

>>68477826

I see these dokibird fans jizzing about how everyone came together to support her, how her future is forever bright, and I'm saying 'bitch I came to see drama, I aint comin back'.

She's gonna be 5k daily in a few weeks, back to 2-3k in a few months.

>>68488479
I don't even know what are you trying to imply besides samefagging.

>>68487907
On one hand, you're right. I'm weak to that long blonde hair and that hat she wears and that perpetual smirk.

On the other hand, and I know this will get me called a gay faggot, but Selen dragon futa cock is the SHIT.

>>68478168

>>68488846
>futa
faggot
the only acceptable futa is futa on female.

>>68477826
No longer nijisanji, I'll sub.

>>68487907
Immensely homosexual post.

>>68477826
Most of them are tourists. Their attention span is so short and will leave in a few weeks.

>>68487925
That's what the instructors in vtuber school call the "Deltaya maneuver."
>>68487907
Absolutely.
I never liked Selen and thought she was kind of annoying, but those blonde twintails and that bitchy smirk activates something primal in me.

>>68479028
Because Zaion spent in niji a fraction of time a foundation member of nijien like Doki was

>>68477826
>i was builled uwu pwease pay my went
>doesn't list names, doesn't have proof
>now everyone is caught in the crossfire

>>68488846
Lord gay faggot.

>>68477826
mid 2023 i stopped watching any and all niji. I will be there for doki, and i'll be there for when rosemi eventually quits or gets beheaded for the investors

>>68489022
few days, maybe hours if she doesn't bring up the drama fast enough.

>>68487907
kys, please

>>68489232
It was kurosanji who leaked that she was bullied by other livers

>youtube will be my main platform
Alright there you go platformschizos

>>68489681
oh nice, I hate twitch

>>68477826
I only ever watched a few of Selen's streams and I liked what I watched along with a few other Nijis. I never really got too into Niji so I just watched when I felt like it, but I'm happy to see her get out of a bad situation. It seems like she really cares, so I wish her the best.

>>68478719
i'll give this a try.

>>68477826
She will be back to niji numbers in a couple of weeks.

>>68489391
Do disloyal viewers like you even actually support them? Or are you one of those who just sit back and watch for free pretending you're helping without spending a cent?

>>68479028
>Join company
>Get suspended literally a week after debut
>get suspended again a week after you're finally able to stream
>get fired
>vs
>highest subcounted female in the company for 2 years
yeah it's pretty obvious who would get more attention.

>>68490800
nta but i usually keep one or two memberships up for my favorites, and buy merch i like.

>>68477826
up my gaping anus

>>68477826
This can turn into fate worse than being nobody. Everybody recognized your name and just don't care anymore. Leaving you with no room for improvement streaming career wise. One way for her to avoid that is to branch out early toward the twitch mainstream audience instead of just sitting there on youtube slowly drowning.

So did anything interesting happen?

>>68491402
Yes. Watch the stream.

>>68491402
Nope. Just Doki trying to move on which is exactly what should be happening.

>>68477826
Working 9 to 5 in fucking Europe.

Oh shit, here it comes

Ill watch her now shes out that shithole

>>68486608
Don‘t forget her announcing that she‘ll stream on bilibili
That‘s gonna filter anyone with even the smallest trace of moral integrity

That was about what I expected.

wow its fucking nothing

>>68477826
I didn't watch every stream cuz of timezones and life simple as

literally an anime troupe.

>MC GOT BULLIED
>WORKED ON THEIRSELVES
>FORGAVE THEIR BULLIES AND MOVE ON

>>68477826
because i hate Nijisanji and the absole retards that defend it, i naver had anything against Pomu and Selen.

>>68493648
>>68493921
What the fuck did you people expect?

>>68477826
>Where did these "fans" go during her previous streaming career?

>>68491402
Unfortunately not, at least nothing interesting enough to meaningfully perpetuate anything

/vt/ should require an english language test

Funny things is this is about the size of the Advent debuts which shows roughly how big the En audience actually is overall

>>68494055
>Zaoin route

Well, shit. I was just tuning in to see what the fuss was about and I left a fan. What the fuck.

>>68494055
if i was bullied to point of suicide attempt and while losing 200k while getting fucked over by the people i work for by no fault of mine
guess what i would do ?

statements by her people around her were incredibly damning to the point a large corporation will loss huge amount of money and her co-workers of whom some might been her friends will be colossally fucked over while she will profit financially a lot
and we get this nostatement statement
and this makes me believe water are way muddier that i thought

>>68494518
This. I don't even watch streamers of any kind.

>>68494946
>guess what i would do ?
Maybe this is why you're a colossal faggot and why Doki/Selen is pretty beloved.

>>68477826
She dropped down to 80k and then back up to low 90k when she got to her statement. Most of us aren't fans.

>>68494946
She ran this statement through her lawyer.
She's trying to not run up against a large corporation and burn every single bridge in and out of Nijisanji.
You're thinking like a dumbass and not someone who still wants to have a career ahead of them

>>68494946
she's a dork who likes to stream, not a unibomber righting the wrongs of the world.

>>68477826
Dunno about others, but I hate youtube as a streaming platform. Twitch isn’t great either, but at least it’s ostensibly designed for finding and watching streams. Youtube is a video platform that they jerry-rigged to have streaming capability, and it shows with how bad it is for actually searching for and finding streams to watch, even if you’re subbed to the person streaming.

Even with that, I’d generally tune in to her streams on the rare occasions where the youtube algorithm decides to be generous and actually do its job, and I’ve also gone back and watched more than a few of her vods over that time, which is honestly more than I can say for most Youtube streams.

>>68494946
It‘s obvious that cou care more about drama than her
Hopefully idiots like you get filtered quickly

>>68477826
>Support the talent, not the company.
>Why was nobody supporting the company when she was streaming over there?

bro, it shouldn't take that many braincells to figure this one out. I'm sure you can do it

>>68490893
Not only that, even people who don't watch Niji liked Selen. She made a huge name for herself in VTuber tournaments and had friends on both of Cover's EN branches. Can't say how many are going to stick around, but a lot of people who don't normally watch her were obviously going to support her through this.

>>68495969
Even kf we‘re being generous there were at most a couple thousand people who wanted to watch Selen but not support anycolor, Doki‘s return was massively boosted by people who were never all that interested in her before and who‘ll probably abandon her soon.

>>68494946
>nostatement
It was a very strong statement. She reaffirmed that there was bullying and that she got documental proof of it. So, good luck. Maybe tell nijisanji corpo to bring the case to the law, if they feel being defamed (they won't). Very good lawyer. She won the case in the public opinion court without having to go to a judge, plus she can move on with her life. Honestly, what do you want her to do? Get into a court battle against a billion corporation in a process that can take years and will stop her from doing her job just from the stress alone?

>>68496809
NTA but it was very weak and she is probably going to lose the lawsuit. The other one they just lost a few months ago was a much stronger case. The main outcome from all of this is going to be that they don't have enough resources to pursue all the legal action they want to against everyone.

>>68477826
We’re gonna fucking kill you, thats where we are.

>>68496578
It's not about her much either, it's a protest sub against NijiEN for most people. She could have been anyone else.

>>68497308
In what country was the other lawsuit presented?

>>68477826
i was put off by the agency she was working for

>>68497544
Sure I agree with that, I just find the notion that there are tens of thousands of people who would have totally watched if she had been in a different corp silly. Nothing wrong with not having watched her before or even becoming properly aware of her due to the drama, as long as you actually support her for her own sake rather than some tool to hurt nijisanji any new fans are good.

>>68497679
Japan.

>>68495416
Well at least her idolEN friends can raid her...

>>68498015
Sorry, you're expecting too much. Nothing against her but she isn't that unique or even a good content creator from what I can tell. I bet she has her fans and will have a niche for herself, but someone like her is never going to be a unifying super star talent. It is what it is, and I'm sure she understands that and is making the most of it.

>>68478168
Move over clipwatchers and vtweeters, vdrama chads are the new hotness

>>68477826
I will go back to not watching her once she spams apex with males.

>>68477826
Where did Gura get her 4 million fans from?
Streisand Effect.

>>68496578
Is it so hard to grasp that VOD watchers will go out of their way to show up live for a big event?

>>68500020
This. I'm even more one-off; my only watched Selen thing was a VOD of her playing Tetris Effect. I barely even watch anyone live (excepting not-Kalbolive 3.0...) and I still came for this.

Expect a bunch of oneoffs that may or may not stick. Either way, it's a damn good start.

>>68477826
Don't want to support a black company.
If still watch NijiEN, you are part of the problem.

>>68477826
>>68477826
HOLY SHIT GURA BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!!!
THE NEW QUEEN OF EN VTUBERS!!!
You retards know that shit wont last, right? lmao

>>68479028
Because Selen was ome of the biggest NijiENs with years on Zaion in the company. Also, Selen is beloved.

>>68477826
I'm part of this group >>68496043