/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Cover was wrong to fire Mel. Niji was wrong to fire Selen but being free of that hellhole will be better for her.

guess who has the best vocals between those two

>>68407481
Hololive lucked out and hired mentally stable people who are professional. Imagine if vesper and magni just started dogwhistling about how bad some of the holo management was then it would be the same thing.

>>68407572
Can't spell melody without mel

>>68407481

>>68407481
Stop using Mel for you shitpost

>>68407615
they got big amount of dollars to shut the fuck up from yagoo

>>68407481
Niisanji being a scum
>B-but hololive

>>68407481
Mel get backstab by nijisanji EN kotoka
selen got bullies bu niji en enna,millie and the gang

>nijisanji termination
>channel silently scrubbed even before the announcement
>fired after over a month long suspension
>roommate immediately went to twitter to speak out about being silenced, harassed until the point of attempted suicide
>whole branch under a gag order not to directly speak about the issue, half of them go on breaks

>hololive
>talent is allowed to stream literally right up until the notice of termination
>roommate goes to twitter to apologize to her audience for making them feel distress, admits to making a terrible mistake at an emotionally vulnerable moment and makes zero effort to shift the blame or any negativity on the company
>fellow members, staff, and even the CEO aren't afraid to discuss the issue and lament her termination
>channel will stay up for over a month after her leaving

>>68407756
I mean hololive did it first in this case.

>hololive termination
>huge mistake, nobody wanted her gone, and she goes out of her way to tell everyone it's her fault
>nijisanji termination
>darkest point of my life

>>68407615
Oh yeah can't wait to hear Vesper talking about how he exploded and called his manager a nigger over not getting perms for his autist game.

All corpos are shit

>>68407639
Yeah and she's in VShoujo

>>68407915
>she goes out of her way to tell everyone it's her fault
Under threat probably

>>68407481
>holo
>said hey she messed up, its in the contract sorry.
>let gen mates say goodbye and talk about
>she even fucking admits it.
>niji
>rips down one of her projects because it has graduated people in it because no one checked it
>mad she told people to reupload it so prolly suspended her
>she puts her self in the hospital
>says nothing but says that's why she isn't replying on twitter
>fucking fires her ending the contract.
>tries to throw her under the bus because she stood up for her self
>entire thing backfires because she sees she's been fired and replies.
bruh

>>68407855
>>68407859

If nobody wanted her gone have they considered for example just not terminating her?

>>68407756
Yes but your hateboner for nijji is meaningless since all of you are just retarded tribalists niggers who see nothing wrong when it's hololive

Still wild to me that Cover actually went to termination for the breach when there is quite literally an endless spectrum of punishments for shit like that, doubly so considering the shit she went through and stuck with them regardless.

>>68407481
>>68407572
https://streamable.com/26fzn3?src=player-page-share

>>68407855
>hololive
>talent is allowed to stream literally right up until the notice of termination
>roommate goes to twitter to apologize to her audience for making them feel distress, admits to making a terrible mistake at an emotionally vulnerable moment and makes zero effort to shift the blame or any negativity on the company
>fellow members, staff, and even the CEO aren't afraid to discuss the issue and lament her termination
>channel will stay up for over a month after her leaving

LOOL

>>68408082
>she even fucking admits it
>take the blame, or we will blacklist you from the entire industry

>>68407481
I don't recall anyone being particularly happy about Mel's termination, more just a tragic example of Mel's low int fucking her over. Cover's red line has always been breaking non-disclosure and multiple talents have been instantly booted for it.

I don't like that she was graduated so unceremoniously, but Mel of all people should've known better considering Chris got capped for similar reasons.

bros...we are not gonna get new Meru reaction images, why even live? She was my favourite along with Ui posters. and Shion brats.

Yes, I just hate nijiniggers that much.

>>68408014
A lack of evidence is not evidence anon

>>68407615
>Hololive lucked out and hired mentally stable people
Lmao how new.

>>68407481
>All companies and situations are exactly the same
time to go back to plebbit, little man.

>>68407481
https://gofile.io/d/fmSsEz

>>68408214
>got herself fired trying to prove to a dramatuber she wasn't in a relationship with someone she was married to
lmao

Cover seems to understand that goodwill and reputation in the eyes of the audience is an important resource, and they put good effort into maintaining that resource

even if it's not genuine, the results show that they're better at playing the game in this industry than niji is

>>68408222
This. Nijisanji are actually the good guys for letting their terminated livers shit on them as soon as the contract is null.

>>68407855
>>68407915
>>68408082
>>68408386

B-but she took the blame! Actually nobody wanted her gone, they just terminated her anyway, besides they let her say goodbye, totally not the same!

lmao, cope seethe and dilate niggers

>>68407481
>Company A has the choice not to fire member but does anyway
>Company B has the choice not to fire member but does anyway
are asians literally retarded?

>>68408190
to be fair, after rushia fiasco, who would blame hololive for not tolerate woman's shit. We not kwon what happen in the roon where happen, until she was living like a hobo, married with a pussy boy and cucking him to the moon...

Is hard not take holo words in big regard here

>>68408190
>have they considered for example just not terminating her
Mel's case was simply an execution of a legal procedure.
If you breach the contract you get let go, that is legally binding and it has to be followed. Whats the point of having a contract if you're not going to follow the terms on it.

>>68407855
>roommate
I really hate this community

>>68407481
nevermind Mel, the fact that they let people cry about Rushia and never slandered her or anything actually speaks even more to how much better Cover is than Anycolor than the Mel situation does

>>68408778
dumb fuck

Terminations from both corpos are shit. Mel's termination is the reason why I dropped Hololive, but Nijisanji pushing Selen to attempt suicide makes them the new Berlin Wall, and this new Berlin Wall shall fall.

>>68408686
Yes, how new?

>>68407481
Cover was in the moral wrong for what they did to Mel and I have been saying it since the announcement. But the situations are not even comparable, Selen's was significantly worse in every regard taking into account the context of the past year of Niji mismanagement and yabs. At least Mel's termination was handled professionally.

>>68408724
If they didn't fire her, people (mostly fandeads) would be sperging out about favortism because "why did SHE get fired but not Mel!?"

There'd be plenty of bitching regardless of result.

>>68408724
Sounds like their contract was dogshit for having any sort of zero tolerance policy that mandates termination rather than having a lesser option like a large fine and long suspension. You know, enough to show the person whose info got leaked that you're taking it seriously while still being able to account for nuance in the situation.

>>68408686
This.

Case A - nevermind the mistreatment, she wants to leave? Just let her go on her terms without any drama to not lose any reputation or stock value

Case B - Punish her in different way (imposing a break or financially) and remind her of the rules - all behind the scenes. N-no b-but rules are the rules, she makes one mistake she has to go! So start the drama and kick out one of our money generators

What is their game?

NDF isn't really sending their best

>>68409525
>contract was dogshit for having any sort of zero tolerance policy that mandates termination
I want to work where the company can only punish me with suspension and can't fire me

>>68407481
>Cover: doesn't make their talent attempt suicide
>Nijisanji: does make their talent attempt suicide
That really says it all

>>68407855
>excusing mel's termination
Really nigger?

>>68410096
Break NDA, get terminated. That's how it works.

>>68410021

>>68408778
Go back tourist.

>>68410146
>pic unrelated

>>68410146
Good Point, Anon.
>Nijisanji & Nijiniggers: do make Vtubers attempt suicide
Like Company, Like Fan

>>68410136
Retarded corpodrone. We will see if your dumb mouth will be yapping when it's your oshi.
Cover fucked up. Nda is only for them. There was no need to terminate mel.

>>68410136
Is the NDA in the room with us right now?

>>68410266
Shhh, Niji intern. No more whiteknighting for your black company. Only dreams now.

>>68410389
>strawman out of nowhere
I accept your concession.

>Selen gets terminated
>Mel gets terminated
Clearly they’re the same, theres no other factors that matter here, nothing at all.

>>68410689
They've been doing it since 2020. you get used to it. Again and again nijiniggers couldn't differentiate what was happening and starts pulling whataboutism

>>68408879
Hell, they even gave people a month to archive Rushia's channel after her termination, unlike Niji who wiped the entire channel without warning before the notice even went out

>>68410689
Yeah when Mel got terminated she didn't talk about how she lived in China for a "large portion" of her life

>>68407481
It's almost like the facts of a situation influence the way people respond to it!

>>68408214
hololive didn’t terminate this retard, she terminated herself

>>68408208
This is membership content, delete this.

>>68407481
lets be real for a second here
the only reason we dont hear stuff like this from hololive is because hololive's chains are heavier
screenshot this, one day gura will do an interview and will tell how much of a burden was trying to do anything in hololive
>forced to rehearsal all streams before getting authorization to stream, because she is not japanese
>oh no, she said something we think could have been different
>time to rehearsal the whole 3 hours stream again
>repeat and repeat with fake chats
>finally able to stream, but all the emotion and will to try gone
then after giving that interview years after graduating from hololive, she will get sued for a gazillion dollars

>>68410146
Ironic you post her considering Nijifans were the ones attacking her because her PL dare to critizie the Chitose situation.

>>68411432
this. kson did not leave without any reason

>>68411467
Wrong, I'm not nijisanji fan, I watch hololive

>based and redpilled, talents fault
according to who? No one is happy about it.
>>68407615
>Hololive lucked out and hired mentally stable people
>mentally stable
Suisei is the most mentally stable there and she talks to dolls and tryhards in children's game, the people in there just got tardwrangled properly and have better therapy

>>68411432
Nice fanfiction can you back that up

>>68411432
>>68411506
lets be real for a second here
you two are retarded
There have been enough graduated/terminated holos at this point, or really holos in general even those still in the company, to where if there existed such a shit culture within you’d be hearing about it from nijinigs nonstop. Whistleblowers would be complaining even if they had to do so anonymously. You don’t think with some of the lazy retards in EN (both girls and homos) they wouldn’t be willing to come right out of the gate giving their former employer shit?

>>68411432
>let's be real
>proceed to write a fanfiction
Roru, also honestly if anything we can learn from Mel's case is that Hololive is too lenient and they should've trained their talent better and limit their interaction like with random e-celebs because most of them are dumb enough to not know that those e-celebs are bunch of vultures

>>68411992
nobody has a gazillion dollars to pay for the lawsuit, so they just dont talk

>>68412047
>>68408603

>>68412047
evidently niji organs have a gazillion dollars then because they sure love to talk shit right out the gate
captcha: G00N

>>68407556
>Cover was wrong to fire Mel.
no they weren't
she literally gave out company info to a "friend" who later decided to to rat on her to cover
how can they keep someone who can't tell apart trustworthy people from cunts when she also breaks NDA?

>>68412184
>nijisanji chains arent as heavy as hololive's
>>68411432

>>68412020
A company is too lenient because *checks notes*..
..they immediately resort to firing their veteran employee after they do one mistake unintentionally

>>68408214
This dumb whore literally gave japanese keemstar access to her discord account.
She's lucky cover didn't sue her after firing her

>>68412525
Get a job, basement-dwelling faggot.

>>68408190
I've heard a rrat that they've offered her an exeption due to being one of the ogs, but she declined, taking the responsibility.

>>68412573
Unlike you retard I actually have a real job in a company, mishaps are not uncommon but they almost never fire anybody because they value experience. There are other forms of reprimanding your employee, if you weren't larping and actually stepped outside you'd know that.

>>68412840
>at my job we break NDAs all the time and nobody gets fired
rumao sure

>>68407855
You forgot the part where Nijisanji makes merch love in public to the Vtuber corpse for their satisfaction (voice packs recorded in 2023 can still be sold at a later point following the termination, even if channel already got nuked)

>>68412840
Yes anon mishaps are not uncommon, and Mel also did some in the past. What's the point are you trying to make again?

>>68411432
>HOLOLIVE DOES IT TOO
Every time

> They told me to delete all the follows and replies on my sister's account.
> There's a lot of other things I wish I had control over.
> *sigh* I'm disappointed.
> There's so many things things I want to protect, so many things I want to save, so many management-like things I'd like to see (them) do, but...
> Honestly there's been so many times I thought of quitting.
> Lately some bad stuff happened to my sister, and I hoped she could get some energy by having fun with everyone
> *big sigh*
> It's kinda unfair isn't it? Only during times like these they say "It's to protect Chihiro-san!".
> In the end I had to do so many things myself, about the slander and other things..
> It's tiring to be told you're an "individual proprietor" only when it's convenient for them.
> I've been holding back on (saying) so many things, but..
> "sole proprietors" when it's convenient, and "corpo VTubers" when they need it.
> *sigh*
> When you're told that you can't (keep) twitter or Youtube, it's a bit.. y'know..
> The 1st gen contracts were changed around so much
> It's a wonder they still continued to this day... the 1st gen...
> We kept telling each other "I'm seriously thinking of quitting" and stopping each other and came this far
> Chihiro might have been the one that wanted to quit the most

>>68413056
he burned the fries at his job more than once and McD still thinks he's a valuable employee so cover is wrong

>>68412525
Yes, the mistake in question being that she gave a dramatuber access to internal company communications. If there is such thing as a fireable offence, this is it.

>Nijisanji does something wrong
>W-what about hololive
pc very much related

>>68413172
don't know why they keep making them, all it does is show how black kurosanji is.

Something I notice with lesser women is that they always lie and twist facts. You see this in hobbies and politics and companies a lot, when dealing with women you can have a paper statement that says one thing and the woman will twist it around to say something else.

Nijisanji fans are like this, likely because most are lesser women. Gnarled and seething, like a witch.

OP is like this. Nijisanji tries to bully a talent to suicide is the same as "we are sorry but must amicably cut ties, so sorry" with meru-san.

>>68412840
Sure, being janitor in a company technically counts as having real job in a company

>>68412020
Hololive is completely fine with management stalking and harassing ml, they sacks of shit too

>>68407481

Cover used their "the impact is negligible" on making the first day of their summer concert free.
Nijisanji used their "the impact is negligible" on Selen attempting to killing herself
We are not the same.

>>68412505
>using a post that’s pure speculation if not fanfiction as evidence

>>68413491

>>68413460
>Hololive is completely fine with management stalking and harassing ml
So is Nijisanji or should people memoryhole that Mito's poster stalker is still stalking her to this day because nijisanji would not file a case against him because he was some managements relative?

>>68407481
Mel's termination was ironically blacker than anything in niji.

>>68412561
No she didn't.

>>68408208
whore

>>68413684
Yes she did. This entire thing is a fucking court case now you moron because her ex husband is suing her.
In fact now he we know how cover knew about their relationship and told her to just fucking chill and wait for the thing to blow over instead of losing her mind and go running to a drama tuber to prove water isn't wet

>>68413460
>Fine
What's your definition of "fine" ? They fired the guy and they later cover the legal cost of Mel against the guy, surely you're not gonna try to bullshit me saying the guy still works there ?

>>68408208
Im really thankful for stuff like this since its much easier to paint enna as one of the bullies trying to hide the truth from clips like these

>>68413786
Ok let's see the proof. None of the streams around her firing had anything to do with her discord account and it's up to you to prove that they did.

>>68411992
Mike never said anything nice about holo and kson stopped two years ago when they started being evil behind the scenes. You didn't hear nijifags talking about it because there aren't any niji tribal monkeys like you seem to think. Maybe some japanese ones but not here.

>>68412525
How do you know it is one mistake. At least from Rushia situation NDA breach happened twice by korekore's account. One happened in November then again in February both times leaking things to korekore. I suspect there was also a breached in July in which Yagoo reprimanded Rushia on what she post on Social Media. That is 3 strikes.

>Cover
It's our fault Mel was terminated. We will do better in educating our talents in the future.
>Anycolor
It's Selen's fault she was terminated and bullied into hurting herself. Also her existence is negligible.

>>68413963
>None of the streams around her firing had anything to do with her discord account
????
The entire thing that drove her to go to drama tuber to prove her innocence was a discord notification from her husband
In what fucking reality do you live in

>>68414146
Wow epic own
discord notification=she gave full access to her discord account
So, where's the proof that this happened?

>>68407481
If you don't want to support corpos then watch indies. It's always the same with you weirdos. You think you have a clever point but everybody knows you're an idiot full of shit.

>>68414210
she went to the drama tuber in order to prove that she was innocent and was not at all involved with her husband
she showed him her discord account as a way to establish that
People known this part of the story for 2 years now, the only news is that she was actually married to the guy and they were living together

>>68411356

>>68414335
>she showed him her discord account as a way to establish that
She didn't. This doesn't come up at any point during any of the streams about her.

>>68413172
The best part is whenever anything from Holo has leaked, they've been shown to be nothing but professional and friendly. The internal company culture seems shockingly different.

>>68413300
>picrel
Holy shit, where is this from?

>>68411631
>Suisei is the most mentally stable there and she talks to dolls and tryhards in children's game
This is called acting, retard.

>>68414560

It's the same schizo as >>68411712

>>68409525
It could have bitten them hard in the ass later, if they didnt fire Mel for leaking info. As in legal battles and stuff like that.

>>68407481
What a retarded comparison. Cover handles their terminations roughly six billion times better and more professionally than Niji, and you don't have to be a tribalfag to notice.

>>68415069
nah no really. rushia's was so bad you have people unironically thinking that she caused flare to get raped. niji is vindictive but they at least lay out exactly why they did it.

>>68415153
>you have people unironically thinking that she caused flare to get raped.

Source: trust me bro

>>68407481
Which company released the 3 page document trying to castigate the person they were terminating?

>>68407556
breach NDA at your job (if you have one more important than a fry cook) and let us know how that goes

>>68415202
>advent child doesn't know rrats from less than a year ago
another good example of how cover gets away with shit, they have a revolving door of fans

>>68413218
but its only nijiEN management thats black!!!

False flagging nijisisters pretending they ever gave a shit about mel. Kill yourselves

>>68409525
>Sounds like their contract was dogshit for having any sort of zero tolerance policy
Are you willing to give Cover benefit of the doubt that it wasn't Mel first offense regarding the matter? I will do the same with Anykara, until Selen posted her attempted suicide tweet and many artist vouched that there were no permission issue.

>>68409703
I would assume the punishment for a contract violation is prescribed in the legal document itself and not left up to whoever to arbitrarily decide.

>>68415259
So you have no source to back it up. Good to know

>>68414560
Its from this guy: https://www.reddit.com/user/haberdashcollect/

Very interesting redditor

>>68407481
Didnt know Mel attempted suicide due to the abuse she suffered in the company
Oh and merch companies are tearing up their contracts with anycolor

>>68415525
retarded newfag
>>67788403
>>67651938
>>66864437
>>66398541
>>64048425
this is just some of page 1 of 9 when you search the archive for "flare raped"

>>68409525
You never had a job, did you?

>>68415626
So if I start posting a bunch of bullshit about nazuna leaving vshojo that means vshojo fucked up.

>>68415688
maybe you should start learning to fucking read holy shit

>>68415702
>rushia's was so bad you have people unironically thinking that she caused flare to get raped.
You pinned the existence of random bullshit on Cover. By your logic I can say whatever about any other vtuber's departure from any company and that all falls onto the company.

>>68415626
Thank you for the source.

>>68415153
I now have more respect for Mel and Selen than I do for Rushia. I can only hope Mel's yab was not as bad as Rushia's.

>>68415755
learn
to
read

>>68415777
>Cover handles their terminations roughly six billion times better and more professionally than Niji
>nah no
>niji is vindictive but they at least lay out exactly why they did it.

Holo earned goodwill by not lying about why they're terminating Mel, Mel herself confirming the reason why and letting her at least say goodbye. They're also not immediately taking down all her vods giving time for fans to archive what they want. NDA's are strict depending on what's being shared, especially if it's private information on other talents like in Rushia's case.

>>68415814
this is my first post, read it very very carefully
>>68415153

>>68415848
So it was Rushia who was the big bad, got it.

>>68407556
>Cover was wrong to fire Mel
No
>muh corpo bootlicking
Whatever helps you cope, you don't have to believe the truth, but you should

>>68415884
if you don't know what " 's " means you should really just leave this website and use filipino facebook instead. you can talk to people who you can actually understand.

>>68414606
act with this cock down your throat nigga

>>68415842
It pisses me off that they deleted Selen's content without warning. Sudden deletion right out of the gate. Two years of hard work, gone down the drain. At least Cover had more respect in announcing the deletion beforehand

>>68415848
Your claim was that Cover is bad because they didn't explain in great detail why exactly Rushia fired and it lead to speculation.

>>68415949
No, I understand it perfectly. Rushia was in the wrong.

>>68415998
correct, i made that claim and then proved it by linking people posting retarded speculation.

>>68407481
no one watches mel or knows who she is because no one speaks jap. as far as anyone on here cares hololive only ever fired coco, russia, sana and the faggots. everyone blames russia for being a retard, coco wanted to quit, sana was a lazy bitch and firing the faggots was based

>>68411432
Kiara who has more personal projects and streams more often has a bigger gripe and she aired out all the dirty laundry and didn't get an ounce of pushback from management. Gura's problems are personal, she's stated as much herself. You're delusional if you think the person who was allowed to do fuck all for months at a time is getting mistreated.

>>68410458
>gets insulted, declares victory
kek, I'd continue if it weren't your fetish

>>68407859
Hololive drove a woman to suicide? yes.

>>68413172
>Conclusion
should be that Nijifuck that was crying that maybe the bullying was getting a bit too much, the buff shiba and weak shiba one or the image of Kson/Coco?? asking Nijifags "isn't this what you wanted?"

>>68407481
I mean I dont know if Mels termination was justified or not. But Niji is catching flak because they are not treating their talents well. I was praying for Pomu and Selen to get out for so long. but I had really hoped they would both get to leave pomus way.

>>68416045
Oh, so you think it is Cover's business to openly announce Mafumafu and Rushia's marriage. Tsk tsk. Cover already made it clear they do not reveal the private lives of their chuubas. No one told Rushia that she had to try and cover up her rm marriage. Or stalk her husband for supposed infidelity.

>>68408603
>nijisanji
>the good guys
good one

>>68416045
And I said I can make up a bunch of bullshit about any vtuber and the responsibility for my posts falls onto the corp every single time.

>>68408222
Tell me all about how Mikeneko has been unable to find a job after getting the boot.

>>68411432
Did this revelation come to you in a dream?


>>68412047
Oh no, not the NDA! The invisible bulletproof NDA!

Come of it retard. NDAs have always been shown to cover less then most people think. If an ex-holo started doxing other talents or spilling the beans on when Cover is planning a stock buyback then they would have a case to sue. Suing for petty shit like talking about how they were bullied by an anonymous manager is a great way of bring about the Streisand effect.

What I'm saying is if the corporate culture was rotten and ex-holos said as much Cover wouldn't have a leg to stand on in a court case over that. And the fact the ex-talent haven't said as much tells you everything you need to know about how stuff works inside Hololive. If you would stop riding Rikus dick for 2 minutes you could see that.

>>68407481
it's different levels of bad retard.
Mel was retarded and accidentally leaked something major enough that despite not wanting to management had to can her and even then they did it in a respectful manner even letting her say goodbye to her friends and audience.
Selen gets fired because after being bullied for who knows how long and dealing with maliciously retarded management she breaks, tells her community to reupload what she thought would be the last thing she ever made because management was too retarded or malicious to clear a project she'd been working on for months and considering it got uploaded in the first place likely already cleared. She then gets fired and the black company attempts to blacklist, her acknowledging that she was infact being bullied but they didn't care and everything was her fault.
It's two entirely different scenarios and trying to equate them to make some both sides bad argument shows exactly how tribal you are. Go lick Riku's taint with the rest of the NDF niggers

>>68416133
no i think cover should openly announce what exactly she leaked and why it is bad, because that is the thing she was fired over. cover should not announce unrelated shit that doesn't matter.
>>68416187
there's a large difference between speculation born from official company correspondence and speculation born from the mind of a 30iq ape who just wandered out of the zoo

>>68408603
This has to be the most big brained comment I've seen from an NFD. Like, for fucking real.

Maybe there's a lead there. Maybe we should ask why Sana and Kson quit. Or maybe we should directly ask Mel why she was willing to take the fall. I'd love to hear the rrats from the Hololive side.

>>68411506
Don't use Kson for your shitpost, faggot. Months after Coco's graduation, Kson still - as she said it herself - spent a lot of her own time and money to sue people to defend Cover & Hololive. Unprompted, if I might add.
That must have been some really powerful brainwashing technique Cover used. Can you imagine Selen suing people to defend AnyColor or NijisanjiEN?

>>68414028
>here's my latest delusion, hope you enjoy

>>68407615
>mentally stable and professional

Good thing they got rid of Rushia

>>68416266
Because that was a joke you dumbass

>>68416319
>no u are wrong
Wow great argument, you convinced me with your compelling evidence.

Thanks for your unwavering support, Coverbros. Can you do the right cheek next, please?

>>68416331
Well thank god. With how schizo some of these rrats are, sarcasm seems hard to detect.

>>68416352
>interprets my post as evidence
no need to confirm your mental illness, anon

>>68416266
It's well known that Cover is backed by Yamaguchi-gumi. The graduated or terminated girls didn't want to get concrete shoes and go diving in Tokyo Bay so they had to obey

>>68416416
Why can't monkeys understand sarcasm?

>>68407481
Bait, Niji is so obviously worse as a company at this point you'd have to be blind not to see it, they're falling apart

>>68408214
Because this stupid girl, MEL get terminated...
If this girl just stay silent and take the vacation times, mel will not get terminated too...

>>68416460
oh no, you're hallucinating too... I'm fortunately not one of your own, anon. your family is waiting for you though, they're willing to help you through such mental struggles

>>68407572
Enna sounds atrocious

>>68415575
FUCK, my little sister wants a good computer this year and i was fucking going to preorder the rosemi set

>>68416260
>speculation born from official company correspondence
What part of Cover's statements imply that ANYTHING happened to Flare?
>speculation born from the mind of a 30iq ape who just wandered out of the zoo
That's exactly what "flare was raped" is. Maybe you're one of the people who posted that and you don't want to accept that you too are a 30 IQ ape.

>>68408222
Delusional

>>68414028
>Mike never said anything nice about Holo
Color me shocked that the woman who got fired, rather than most other ex-holos who left voluntarily or under mutual agreement, didn’t say anything nice about her former employer
not to mention she’s been proven to be a manipulator especially over the last 2 weeks so it’s a wonder she’s not trying to play the victim harder
>Kson
Even if this isn’t some schizoposting implying Kson now thinks negatively of Holo, the lack of defamation towards Cover by other ex-holos really only speaks about Kson’s opinion of them and not every ex-holo’s opinion as a whole. Even the Magni faggot, who complained not-so-subtly about his model on his RM twitter, hasn’t said anything bad about Cover. Hell even in that same tweet he said how he liked where he worked.

>>68408014
>REEEEEE hololive HAS to be just as bad as kurosanji AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEE

>>68416523
Hope it's better than what Selen's "family" could've provided at least

>"my black company is better than your black company!!"
corpo bootlickers are funny

>>68415946
>Whatever Cover says is The Truth
Amen.

>>68416809
Mel herself admitted she fucked up on her PL account. You ignoring what she herself posted is schizo behavior

>>68416765
Doesn't have to be AS bad to still be bad.

>>68416759
Kson likes the holo girls so she refuses to say anything publicly that could damage their jobs and livelihoods even though she very well can. Coco explicitly said that when she was graduating, it's why she made it a celebration instead of just leaving in march. Kson used to vaguely imply nice things about the company but abruptly stopped after a certain incident.

>>68408014
The infamous invisible gun

>>68416893
lol

>>68416214
Arguing aside that’s pretty cute Pomu art

>>68416790
wrong board hasan

>>68416635
>With respect to the above, we were able to confirm that she engaged in acts that: violated her contract by leaking information that she acquired from the company as well as communication over SNS
this is the official announcement. what did she leak? what communication? what did she do? did she leak a holo's name and address? did she disrupt business plans? nobody knows. hence the speculation. this is a shitty announcement. you can get much more specific very easily without turning into a schizo niji announcement.

>>68416866
the bad you mentioned was just your own speculation.
>under threat probably
which corpo is underfire for silencing their talents again?

>>68416848
This argument is absolutely retarded. Of course she would say the same on her official and RM accounts after they "agreed" on peaceful termination. Doesn't mean it's The Truth.
Obviously she did have some fuck up, the question is whether immediate termination was the only option, or was it another case of JP corpo autism. I'd bet on the latter.

>>68417035
>leaked something so bad that it waranted a instant termination
>"Hey cover can you publicly post what she leaked wink wink ;)"
Peak fucking retard

>>68417035
Yeah you really are one of those 30 IQ monkeys. You're not even from the zoo, you're straight from the SEA jungle.

ndf always works hardest at this hour, really makes you think

>>68417132
>We have terminated Rushia after confirming that she leaked upcoming collaboration plans to unauthorized parties jeopardizing our business.
wow that was hard

>>68417255
And Mel did the same thing. That wasn't so hard to understand, was it?

>>68417338
proof?

>>68417101
>Doesn't mean it's The Truth.
>The talent herself was apologizing in an account that cover has no legal power.
WHAT MORE DO YOU FUCKING WANT? You sounds like /pol/estinian, acting like they noooooootice something while arguing in bad faith

>>68417243
This isn't really a surprise to anyone.

>>68416893
>I have dirt on why working at Holo sucks and nobody should work there because it’s toxic
>But I’ll keep quiet because I want my coworkers who I totally consider close friends to keep working there at a black company. Obviously thats whats best for my friends
If by some stretch of the imagination this is somehow true she’s either retarded or considers them friends in the woman sense and not in reality

>>68417039
That was not me. But some "threat" was obviously involved. Do you think they just told her "could you please leave, but if you don't it's ok"?

>>68417362
>>68417132

>>68417385
She *literally* said this as Coco. Literally literal, not figuratively. She loves the Holo girls and wants everyone to support them.

>>68417408
if you weren't a jungle monkey you would be aware that there are varying degrees in which you can divulge information. you don't have to copy and paste exactly what was leaked in the announcement. you can be far more specific than "broke nda lol" though. i wrote an example how right here >>68417255

>>68417422
So she's a complete piece of shit who wants her "friends" to suffer but that's ok because she told internet strangers to "support" them.

>>68417422
I’m not doubting she said it, I’m doubting there’s actually anything wrong with Cover that isn’t just personal beef between her and Yagoo or the company itself. And she’s definitely allowed to have said beef but again as I argued before, if there was actually something wrong with Cover, regardless of her keeping quiet, some other ex-holo like Magni would gladly spill the beans as evidence by his willingness to discuss such matters even while he was in the company

>>68417374
Well, you just sound like a retard. Her repeating the same apologies on RM doesn't confirm (or disprove) anything, except that she doesn't want to burn bridges with Cover, which was already known. It is not the "case closed" final argument morons present it to be.

>>68417562
her friends aren't suffering they're making a ton of money. that's why she's not speaking out.

>>68417526
Market manipulation and insider trading is illegal

>>68417596
Money doesn't make up for mental torture that Cover apparently puts everyone through.

>>68417579
>>68417629
what's mel's final solution? I will judge your rrat closely

>>68417629
but enough about nijisanji

>>68417688
It's kson who said Cover is trash and no one should work there because they put her in the punishment room.

>>68417726
That image literally shows Selen being put in that punishment room. I said ENOUGH about nijisanji.

>>68410266
If my oshi gets terminated I'll just follow her to her new endeavors.
The point you're missing here is that cover didn't need to slander their talent during the termination.
Niji is not above such pettiness, even facing a suicide attempt.
That is the ethical difference.

>>68417374
There are burgers spending life in prison for crimes that they confessed to getting released after being exonerated by DNA evidence thanks to new technology. Why did they admit to something they didn't do? To avoid worse punishments. Mel isn't facing the death penalty but her professional reputation is at stake and she has a strong motivation to not dig in her feet and screech that she didn't do anything wrong and that Cover is overreacting. Japan is a corporate dicksucking country she can't pull a Selen over there. Kson had to do the same despite being openly annoyed that Cover changed her contract multiple times and she had no choice but to graduate or agree to worse terms than what she originally signed up for.

>>68417255
They did say why she was terminated Anon. Besides sending Korekore discord chat logs she was also sending/receiving private DMs from her biggest paypigs.

>>68417867
cover didn't say that and the latter was a fake rrat someone made with a video of a superchat reading that they later admitted was made up

>>68417912
>latter was fake
roru

>>68417596
Even if we pretend this schizo rrat that she has actual dirt was real, there are multiple scenarios to look at then
>She keeps silent completely, not even telling her “friends” how toxic Cover is
Not only is she a horrible person and has no right to call herself their friend, but then also Holos are retarded for not realizing themselves how toxic Cover is and/or speaking out about it, anonymous or not
>She keeps quiet publicly but continually lectures her ex-coworkers on how bad their workplace is and they should leave
Again, unless Holos are all retarded, at least one of them would have spoken out themselves by now about toxicity.

>>68417912
Nigga the smoking gun is still on xitter if you weren't too lazy to go look for it.

https://twitter.com/mattyarate0183/status/1497037327817838593

>>68417935
yes it actually was fake. a guy clipped a sc reading from a year prior and said she privately dm'd him a birthday message. it went viral and 4chan found it but nobody talked about when it was debunked because that isn't funny. this is why cover's announcement is garbage you believe so much dumb shit because there is nothing of substance in the actual announcement.

>>68417688
I believe >>68417629 is defending Cover via sarcasm, not shitting on them

>>68417744
kson said Cover is bad so it's true

>>68418070
obsessed chimp

>>68418095
So is Cover bad or not, kshitter? You can't seem to decide if you hate hololive or don't.

Guys stop calling it a black company, it's black history month this is very offensive

>>68418122
obsessed chimp

>>68407658
God I love this image

>>68418132
im gonna say the N word

>>68417579
So you really think there was invisible gun that forced her to release the same statement?
>>68417860
Cool analogy, until >Japan is a corporate dicksucking country she can't pull a Selen over there
Give me $2000 i can compile you a list of former JP corpo vtuber shitting their ex employer.

>>68418243

>>68418143
>kshitter shortcircuits when faced with having to accept it's true identity

>>68418357
obsessed chimp

>>68408190
>If nobody wanted her gone have they considered for example just not terminating her?
A-Chan said that if they weren't public it would be brushed off, but it's not possible to do it anymore

>>68409525
I think it’s fair to say it’s bullshit but I imagine this is industry standard. At the end of a day, cover is still a corperation, and that’s gonna bring with it a certain amount of shittiness. I may like all of the opportunities cover gives to it’s talents and the communities those talents have formed with each other, but it’s still a corporation at the end of the day, we’ll basically always be able to ask for better as long as they’re profit driven.

>>68418267
The important part isn't "talking shit" it's that they continue to get work after doing so.

>>68418370
cry kshitter cry
You hate hololive and everyone can see it.

>>68417860
You’re talking about the girl who’s previously brought in lawyers for a dispute with the company. If termination was unjustified, Mel absolutely would have fought it.

>>68418455

>>68418267
>Is this non-japenese ad? I'm going insane rn.
Japs are such cucks. Should I complain where my country's national pride because we have gov. officials drive Mercedes?

>>68418243
Nijisanji?

>>68418480
>numbers
You're going full schizo know, as expected of a kson fan.

>>68418243
FUBUKI NO

>>68418521
nta but identifying apes isn't difficult

>>68418564
But you're the ape
>claim kson said Cover is shit
>sperg out when asked if Cover is shit

>>68418602
are you still hallucinating? not everyone is your own kind

>>68418602
>give me information for my monkey war
no

>>68408190
If they didn't terminate her, Rushia would 100% be able to claim unfair dismissal (Why was she allowed to stay while I was fired?), their hands were tied legally, and at least the way Cover handled it was far better than Kurosanji shitting the bed

>>68407572
A flushing toilet sings better than Enna

>>68418640
What am I hallucinating?

>>68418643
The information is already here in this thread, ape. >>68417422
You're just sperging out because you can't answer if Cover is a black company or not. This isn't about "information" but about your mask slipping.

>>68418736

>>68418441
Such task can be done without her having to say anything and move on

>>68418736
>monkey war rambling
that's crazy

>>68418797
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/by7CfePGiIX73e6_ZVDwGA/
Interesting post history.
Why do you spend so much time in the number thread and why are you randomly shitting on hololive despite pretending to not hate hololive? You even name Pekora out of nowhere.
kson fans really do hate hololive and everyone still there.

>>68407481
nijiniggers trying their best to cope

>>68418876
>JUST SAY YOU HATE HOLOLIVE

>>68418958
>HOW DARE YOU SAY I HATE HOLOLIVE YOU- YOU- NUMBERCHIMP
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56452299
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56452456
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56452730
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56453064
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56453350
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56453425
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56453537
Not only do you hate hololive, you're pro-niji when it fits your anti-holo agenda.

>>68407556
>Cover was wrong to fire Mel
They were. But JP autism working laws say she has to be fired or spend time paying fines or going to prism
>Niji was wrong to fire Selen.
Yes but what can you do to a company who shits on their talents. Getting fired from a Black Company is a blessing.

>>68419039
lol, cope

>>68419039
None of these are even me

>>68419075
Cope with what? You pretending that you don't hate hololive?

>>68407615
NotMagni said he enjoyed his time there. Believed he wasn't going anywhere and management told him it was going to get harder from here on out so he dipped.

NotVesper wanted to quit vtubing. Not because of management but because of the what Cover required from them. He wasn't patient for that so he left. He got back into vtubing thanks to NotMagni.

>>68419039
ndf isn't bringing their strongest

>>68419153
He's not ndf, just anti-holo.

>>68419039
For the record I copied the monkey thing from other people. I used to just call you guys faggots.

>>68419211
Who asked, kshit?

>>68407481
Mel -
>admitted to fucking up openly and regretted it
>it was over something that basically cover's hands are tied on, they can't kowingly let a clear NDA leak go and didn't hesitate to fire their top earner over it before
>nobody hates mel, just feel bad for her being a bozo, literally all the hate goes to her shitty "friend" who ratted her out to Cover

Selen -
>was fucked over by management and blamed for it
>it was apparently a cumulative great many things that they seem to have very lax/wishy washy standards on between the branch and it's not clear why selen (and zaion) got axed over shit we know other livers did
>nobody hates selen, feel extremely bad for her situation and a fucking an hero attempt, all the hate goes to kurosanji for their bullshit

The only defenders of the Selen situation seem to be nijiJP fans. However we do see some attempt at pushback on Selen here it seems like a very small minority of NDF shills and the overall picture is a revolt against Anycolor (including here).

>>68419248
I don't even watch her, monkey boy. If you want to accuse me of being random people at least find one that isn't up 4 hours past my bedtime.

>>68419039
>monke reveals himself when called
crazy

>>68419298
You're not even who's being talked to. Shut the fuck up and sit down.

>>68407556
No

>>68407481
nobody is happy over Mel's termination but unfortunately cover had a reason to do so. selen's case was completely different, where she got bullied (nijisanji confirmed that) and tried killing herself but nijisanji wanted her to keep streaming and when she refused the canned her

>>68419322
Yea I am dumb chimp. You're just the dumbest fucking guy on this board you can't tell one anon from the next.

>>68419354
No you're not.

>>68419368

>>68419381
You're not >>68418643
Stop pretending.

>>68407481
Cover is a black company according to their former talents.

>>68419381
you've excited the monkeys, meru...

>>68419431

>>68419455
cool monke impression

These are shills right?
There's no way these posts defending Nijisanji are being made in good faith by real people

>>68419547
Aloe, Rushia and Coco all called them a black company

Why are kson fans so hateful towards hololive and their talents?

>>68419580
wait it's not just an impression?

>>68419594
>

>>68419620
Prove me wrong.

Pekora can't get the numbers anymore and loses all golds to niji.

>>68419686
wow she fell off

>>68419661
that it's just an impression?

>>68419712
That those three didn't call Cover a black company.

>>68419621
wow he is literally me

>>68419710
She hasn't been relevant for about a year now.

>>68419748
Aloe kinda did

>>68419748
your impression is very convincing I'll give you that

>>68419797
They all did.

>>68419858
your oo oos are a little off but you've got it down

>>68410146
You keep her name out of your mouth you filthy fucking nijinigger.

>>68407481
You must be be new here. This board spams the same shit against every company that loses or fires anyone. Our even says "no" to a talent.

>>68420011
She herself said Cover is a black company.

>>68419797
Aloe never did. She was mad about Coco's graduation and walked it back. Bit she never and has never called Cover a black company. Her gripe was that talents were still being harassed even after what happened to her.

>>68420083
No she didn't. Now provide proof or shut up retard.

>>68420011
>>68420105
I wanna huff her triangular cunny

>>68414210
>discord notification
honestly I can only commend someone that is denying reality this strongly

>>68420105
But Coco herself called Cover a black company. Aloe only walked back because she realized she had anti-holo chinks in her fanbase and didn't want tonappear like she was aligned with them.

>>68420105
>>68420148
She said management was shit which is objectively true if you look at how they handled her and coco

>>68420202
Which means Cover is black.

I miss creative writing general

>>68420226
so true oomfie, god if only selen's attempt was successful, our happy family would still be happy!

>>68418070
>>68418122
>>68418643
kson never said any of that tho

>>68420280
Stop acting retarded. I never said niji wasn't black.
Cover is a black company according to two of the most successful vtubers ever.

>>68420360
they didn't say that though. i'm starting to doubt your impression was only an impression oomfie...

>>68420359
I'm pretty sure she mentioned all the horrible shit hololive management put her through including the banishment room.

>>68407481
Showing the differences in management is startling.

>>68420410
can you stop bringing up nijisanji? thanks

>>68420185
>But Coco herself called Cover a black company
no she didn't

>>68420462
Can you stop rewriting history?

>>68420495
ironic

>>68420410
obsessed chimp

>>68420410
>>68420495
and you're free to source your claims that she called hololive a black company

>>68420518
>>68420532
>>/vt/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=banishment_room&search_ord=old&search_res=post
This was well known and accepted until recently when everyone started to pretend like nobody has ever criticized Cover after leaving for some bizarre reason.

>>68420567
>source is warosu
you already lost

>>68420591
How? All the posts are real. Coco was put in the banishment room according to herself.

>>68420567
so no source?

>>68420567
no but when did she say that Cover was a black company?

>>68420591
when has he won? kek

Stop insulting the billion dollar company

>>68420632
>according to herself
and instead of posting the source you linked random posts from warosu? >>68420633

>>68420681
The source was Coco's membership streams that are now gone.

>>68420632
>>68420718
Sure anon how convenience when external archiving exist. And this anon has gura GF

>>68420663
why? niji deserves it at this point

>>68420567
more proof than ever that monkes will not leave this site for even a second

>>68420810
Why can't you disprove the claim?

>>68420718
https://nyaa.si/view/1417994
let me know which one, so I can educate myself

>>68420810
it's been the Monke site for a while already. 4channel died for nothing

>>68420875
march or april zatsu probably

why does helmir hate kson so much?

>>68420983
Why do you always obsessively bring up some random holofan while sperging out over getting called a holo anti?

>>68418949
nijiniggers all want to see anycolor burn, theres no cope.

>>68421053
>any color
that is true

>>68421029
why do you always go to threads that have nothing to do with kson and sperg out about her?

>>68420983
>hate kson
No one has posted any hate towards her in this thread
Are you going schizo?

>>68420983
what lies deep inside monke brains is not entirely known

>>68421110
Where's is this sperging out about kson happening? Quote the posts.

I like the monkey pictures

>>68417726
the same kson who told haachama not to quit hololive?

>>68421146

>>68417726
>>68418070
>>68418122
>>68418357
>>68418455
>>68419594
>>68420185
>>68420410
>>68420632
>>68420718

>>68421207
monkeys are cool

>>68421245
Where's the sperging out? Not a single one of these posts is saying anything bad about kson. She said Cover is black and did horrible things to her.

>>68421121
>>68421146
>>68421318
you're blind and brown, a terrible fate

>>68421245
Yes. Why did kson quit hololive? Because she was being treated like shit.

>>68421318
you're lying about what she said and also implying that saying those things makes her a liar

>>68421335
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56452299
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#56452456
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/56447761/#q56452730
Why are you like this?

>>68421442
still blind and brown? that's crazy

>>68421407
What is she lying about according to me? Aklso if I'm lying about what she said it should be very easy for you to clear that up, but you won't do it because you're obsessed with "not giving information"

>>68421492
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
read a book muhammed

>>68421525
Yeah the burden of proof is on you. You're claiming I implied she's lying but can't prove that I'm doing that.

>>68421556
if you don't believe that kson is lying then you yourself believe that cover is a black company

>>68421624
I have called Cover a black company like 20 times in this thread but somehow I don't believe that Cover is a black company.
Are you ok, schizo?

I bet most of you faggots have never even watched a Coco/kson stream

>>68421814
monkes can't watch streams, that's ridiculous

Why did kson quit hololive again?

>>68421905
because of twink mainlanders
why did selen leave nijisanji again?

>>68420165
>imagine having your head trapped between Triangle and her lvl 50 Menhera wife as they violently grind each other to orgasm... man...

>>68422021
What do twink mainlanders have to do with hololive? Are they part of the management?

Some tribalist will tell you Cover was in the right - these retards are also newfags who forgot how incompetent management has been over the years

but thats the thing, they are incompetent not malicious like niji en

>>68422028
the only good post in this thread

>>68422028
Imagine the smell

>>68419211
Nta
>"i can't defend nor prove my arguement so im gonna call you a faggot"
HOLOLIVE WIN AGAIN BY DOING NOTHING

>>68413610
it's not called memoryholing when you just made something up in your head

>>68419455
Cool story bruh, proof it.

>>68416045
That speculation is so mind-bogglingly retarded that Cover's statement can't possibly be blamed for it.
>>68416260
"The thing she was fired over" was leaking confidential material. Cover very clearly said this. They aren't going to give more detail than that because it is confidential material, retard.

>>68422055
>Are they part of the management?
Is this how zhang cope?
>We dindu nuffin it's all their fault she should have tank the harassment 呵呵呵呵呵呵呵呵

>>68422021
I'll never forgive china for this

>>68420011

>>68422021
I guess because of china as well, in a cosmic sort of way

>>68422101
>>68422165
>imagine having you head trapped between Dokibird big beautiful milkers as she giggles about you smelling her... and then she kisses your head...
She's a theif alright... she stole my heart...

>>68422420
Nijinig and ndf is a cancer to society, the same cloth with wolf warrior.

>>68422444
There can be only 1 true Chinese.

>>68422471
she stole my semen, that harlot

>>68422471
doki's bbm...

>>68422637
She stole my semen... and my kokoro...

>>68422471
>>68422896
That was beautiful, anon...

>>68421905
Because that is Kiryu's destiny.
They died for whom they loved.

Yakuza6

>still no proof of any past holo shitting on the company
who would have thought

>>68424086
Why did Coco quit?

>>68424159
had to oo oo aa aa one last time? she said taiwan on stream and mainland china got angry with her

>>68424225
That's not why she quit.

>>68424159
because zhang's were harassing her
>STILL no proof
lmao

>>68424253
monkeys are a little too dull to understand I guess

>>68424267
Cover made those zhangs mods in her chat on purpose, blocked her from doing collabs and stopped her from even doing asacoco.

>>68424267
not just her but multiple other talents too. damn bugs

>>68408014
Proof next thread?

>>68424159
you know it's pretty funny that you have no proof that she shat on hololive but we know she called out nijizhangs
https://youtube.com/shorts/l9tfD1kwpiw?si=aD_GufDLqm3fwQ_D

>>68424307
without any schizo delusions next time?

>>68424307
and you can post proof any time. even better just post her shitting on hololive

>>68424368
You know what's even funnier? You shitting on Pekora and then pretending that you don't hate her.

>>68408222
Why are you quoting Nijisanji?

>>68424414
without schizo delusions, anon...

>>68424414
>You shitting on Pekora
?

>>68424398
>>68424408
Literally every single one of these things happened.
Are you unironically denying Cover modding zhangs?