/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>she wasn't worth much anyone
so petty, what kind of company is this?

they should use her mental illness against her like what selen did to them

>>68411194
>Nothing of importance happened today
based

>>68411194
It sounds like they really scared this time

a random screenshot of a totally legitimate document
may I see some receipts

>>68411194
Nothing happened.

>>68411415
Anycolor's website containing the statement is literally linked in the OP you triple nigger

>>68411415
You are an actual retard faggot

>>68411415
You literally just open the link and scroll down a bit, how retarded are you?

>>68411415
>Be spoonfed
>Still can't eat the food
Click the link and use your eyes, retard.

Surely the stock will rebound if we ignore the elephant in the room, right?

>>68411194
nothing causes investors to panic as reliably as releasing an official "don't panic, investors" statement

https://youtu.be/Trs-SFvMtYo?t=227
Thread theme

>>68411194
They really did the jjk meme
>Nah I'd win

>>68411609
>the elephant
THEY FIRED HER ALREADY OK

>Selen you are worthless

>>68411194
>impact of this decision on our financial results will be negligible
>btw she did irreparable damage to us

>>68411698
lol

>>68411698
You clearly can't read. It's financially negligible but irreparable to their reputation

>>68411918
Oh so if irreparable reputation damage has no financial impact what's the problem then? Why did they care so much?

>>68411918
Surely reputation and finances are not linked

>>68411918
Financial results stem from reputation, if the reputation of a company is harmed that effects the financial sector too.

>>68412003
Like Disney's reputation lately going down the drain but they're still making tons of cash

>>68411629
I didn't even need to click on the link to know what this was going to be.

>>68411415
retard

>>68411918
Bitch, their worth is public on stock market.
Anycolor had major collapse literally at the moment they published that announcement and still are going down. Selen's graduation being financially negligible is bullshit because we literally se its results.

>>68411194
enna agrees it isn't a big deal either

>>68412054
Disney is a megacorporation, they've got a ton of different investments for different reasons. The only hits to their rep are really their movie sector.

>>68412163
could add a bit more jpg artifacts to that image I can almost still read it while zoomed in, need to fix that

>>68411698
They were talking about the decision to fire her having a negligible financial result. They were wrong, 100% mistaken even, but it's different from the irreparable damage they were talking about. It's basically:
>She did irreparable damage while working with us, so firing her will have a negligible financial impact
Yes they should've hired a proofreader.

>>68411194
This is almost comically evil at this point, two entire days of people losing their shit and criticizing Nijisanji, only for them to release a two sentence statement that's basically "This means nothing to us." It's like they're TRYING to make everyone in the world hate them. Is this some kind of Zero Requiem thing where they're focusing all the hate on Nijisanji and then they die and it just dissipates? I cannot imagine anyone seeing this and having any sympathy for them.

>>68411918
>A talent ( people ) managing company
>Somehow their reputation wouldn't have any fiscal effect on their talent ( people )
Rumao

>>68412410
The supacha & merch money that's supposed to go to Selen will simply shift to other talents'

>>68411194
>Terminating the overall best performing nijien liver of 2023 is negligible
Wow that must mean to them all the leftover organs are even lower than worthless

>>68411698
>we did not delete a video that we deleted

>>68411194

>>68411194
They released a note with just that? One meager sentence?

>>68413002
Yes. That is the entire statement.

>>68413002
>>68413029
I looked at the other statements to see if this is common practice and the other ones are much longer. Someone in Nijisanji management is extremely petty and vindictive towards Selen.

>>68413002
yeah, even JP investors are fucking pissed at it kek

>>68411918
Those are the same thing

>>68411698
>Literally all of this could have been avoided if they kept the fucking video up and chewed her out behind the scenes

>>68411194
>Statement with 2 paragraph
What is this trash?????
This is the worse damage control I ever seen

That they rushed to get this up on the Investor Relations portal and it's the only announcement of it's kind since 2022 says a lot. Companies have to release statements about events that might materially affect the next quarterly earnings for a company to investors - if they don't do this they could get sued. By staking the claim "didn't matter lol" quickly they are trying to establish a defensible argument that they "didn't know" this could have happened to them and their shareholders when EN goes down the toilet and craters 30% of revenue.

Given that they (by this point) likely *do* know it will have material adverse impact however, they are now in a situation where they are directly making materially misleading statements to their own investors, making their liability 10 times worse if something does happen and giving activist investors a solid footing for suing the company for damages.

IANAL etc but well done niji, you played yourselves

>>68411918
Number 1 liver of December and one of the strongest female livers along with Pomu. Both are now gone. Don't sweat it everyone, it's all under control.

>Doesn't look like anything to me

>>68413520
God the people who abuse the legal system like that are the scum of the earth. I absolutely despise them.

>>68412681
You honestly think Selen fans are going to continue supporting Nijisanji after all this?

Wasn't Selen the most popular nijien?

>>68411194
reminded me when Putin bombed some non-strategic Ukraine city to the ground for no reason, this kind of thing doesn't make sense because it's caused by temper tantrums

>>68414226
Of the girls, she was the most subbed, most viewed, and shifting top 3 viewership and merch sales.

>>68411415
>Spoon already in front of his mouth
>Still asking to be spoonfed
Not just their stocks, even the quality of NDF also going down...

>>68414226
its still Luxiem but of the girls yes. and her and Pomu were definitely the two most respected in the wider vtuber community

>>68411194
>it's real

>>68411194
OP purposely didn't include the full version of the document

>>68414740
TOP KEK

>>68414740
If only they were this terse when they were firing her, their reputation wouldn't be half as burnt.

>>68411194
Negligible organs

>>68414855
gallbladderbros...

Looking at their Yahoo Finance's page is fun
everyone is saying that they're retarded for releasing this after a termination, and that making overseas fans their enemies will only make things worse
also, they didn't know about AC not paying artist and giving wrong NDA

'Several creators (illustrators, music rights holders, etc.) who had transactions with Seren and actually suffered from late or unpaid payments rejected the statement of Niji-sanji EN management and supported Seren's (Doki's) statement and showed their solidarity with it.

If this is true, that's checkmate.'

Negligible bros...

>>68415002
They haven't even learnt about the suicide attempt yet
This shit is a rolling bomb

Merch companies are pulling out from working with Nijisanji

>>68414831
Yeah, that is one of the things I don't understand about Nijisanji. Why do they have to go out of the way and write a novel about how much of a special cursed creature their liver was every time they shit can one.

>>68412163
He is not wrong, but he doesn't get that this boycotting is about the awful treatment to their talents, who just keep leaving or getting terminated and there will be consequences. Enough is enough.

>>68414740
>*translation notice*
>"Okay, so, we're fucked."
>*gigantic blank*

>>68414740
>it's not 3 pages long
lame

>>68414740
LIKE BLEACH FOR THE SOUL

>>68415423
funny you say bleach
>>68414740 reminds me of pic

>>68411415
The air right in front of your nose, nigger. Do you actually need somebody to shove it into your nose because you don't remember how to breathe?

>>68411194
They won't need to pay out her 2% anymore so that statement is true

JUST DON'T LET YOUR AUDIENCE TO DO AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES PUBLICLY.
READ THIS SELEN. POWER YOUR BRAIN SOMETIMES.

>>68416305
>an illegal activities
>>>>>>illegal

>>68416305
>Illegal
like niji failing to pay artists?

>>68416305
>MA'AM DO NOT REPOST!
तुम्हारी माँ सेम के लिए कुत्तों से चुदाई करती है

>>68416598
I don't read spaghetti letters go use google translation pajeeet.

>>68411194
this is the most unprofessional childish behaviour i ever seen from a big company
you can tell they are absolutely seething and desperate to sound like they won.
beyond pathetic

>>68416538
You are still in the company
Then you post something on public to encourage your fans to the illegal copyright or piracy.
How fuck up is your head?
You just want yourself to be in a mud actually, so you can get sympathy.
You can actually stealth everything so your fans can still enjoy your MV since it was made by genuine love for fans but no, she'd done this just to rebel and actually burn the rest because of bruised ego.

>>68416982
We value people over corporations, thirdie filth

>>68416982
both the singer and producer gave her the permission
it's not illegal

>>68416982
>illegal
Nothing about the video was illegal. Nijisanji retroactively revoked permission because it had two frames of vtubers they didn't like.
>piracy
It was free to view.

>>68417074
Theb why did she applied for corp? You fucking twat brownian

>>68416982
you will never ride Riku's yatch

>Selen wanted to have the cover out by Christmas (a significantly important date)
>Apparently permissions were handed out since 2022
>But no the cover had to be privated last minute anyway
I refuse to believe no due diligence was made on Selen's part, someone from management sabotaged her
Millie's braindead response was just Millie being braindead

>>68417117
>>68417084
Didn't passed to release?
>illegal
You all like you won't work for any company. It's simple, why you make it harder to undesrtand? Oh yeah? Cause you all woke.

>>68417166
Who's that? Your dad? I will ride your mom tonight.

>>68417209
>this faggot is bootlicking niji and calling others brownoid third worlders but his English is disintegrating right before my very eyes
Pathetic

>>68411415
The state of Nijinigger IQ

>>68411194
>Selen is a nobody and she doesn't matter
I guess its true but it's still funny considering it was a corpo statement

>>68417251
This motherfucking female likes to lurking here but her banter it's just adhominem. I see

>>68416982
Both the singer and producer have verified they have had permission since LAST YEAR to do that, August 2022. Its only illegal since the company she worked for wanted it down, for those same reasons of permission.

If you can read between the lines, there was something else they are upset about in that video, perhaps that some of the old graduated talent was in it, and so some middle manager somewhere freaked out and told em to can it?

>>68417209
Care to try typing that again and making sense?

>>68417206
Millie is the core of the clique with the evil managers (she probably fucks them too)
she was clearly trying to defend them while shifting the blame on Selen with those tweets
stop pretending that she's just le dumb girl, everybody knows she's a fucking snake

>>68415122
lol nijisanji is done

>>68411194
>it's real
holy fuck

68417322
68417311
This close minded people will never learned how to work for a company. I just hope they can get the job they would like knowing that business is a business and to actually enjoy the working environment is to learn to adapt to any situation.

>>68411194
kek

>>68417206
Selen is not mentally stable though, and she hasn't been mentally stable for over a year now. I think Selen messed up but all her friends are covering up for her

>>68417430
>>68417209
>>68416982
What the fuck is this? Some autistic third world retard? I dont think its a troll, it has to be a legit brown.

>>68414831
They literally just had to go with Selen's plan of separating amicably but they decided to be fucking retards.

>>68417430
kek I refuse to believe this guy is real. You guys are just falseflagging to make nijifags sound brown and retarded.

>>68417430
HOLY CHINESE
Zǎoshang hǎo zhōngguó xiànzài wǒ yǒu BING CHILLING wǒ hěn xǐhuān BING CHILLING dànshì sùdù yǔ jīqíng 9 bǐ BING CHILLING

Thank you for You's
>What the fuck is this? Some autistic third world retard? I dont think its a troll, it has to be a legit brown.
Learn from Selen Termination fucktard or just go woke and broke.

>>68417505
The reason Selen was mentally unstable is because Nijisanji is such a dogshit fucked up company. She has always had enthusiasm for large projects and handled them well.

>>68417311
The whole "we took it down for legal reasons" is so fucking retarded. Niji owns the fucking IP. What are they going to do, sue themselves for not getting permissions from themselves?

Go with the drama you all but that won't last forever. The buff is ticking

>>68417430
>DO NOT REDEEEM THE BLACK COMPANY MAAM

>NO DONT REDEEM NOOOOOO

Seriously? She has been "adapting" to the situation for years, has had multiple projects shot down and is so upset by it she made a suicide attempt after trying for years to do more for her company.

>>68416982
>>68417209
If I may be so bold, I gather that there may well be subtle nuance surrounding recent occurrences which have escaped your notice owing to your tenuous grasp of the English language. I would advise that you revisit the particulars of this scandal some months hence following rigorous study of the relevant vernacular, as such undertaking will doubtless elucidate the misconceptions under which you currently labor.

>>68417594
Both things can be true at the same time.
>Niji is bad
>Selen made a mistake

>>68413002
>>68413068
lol be sure to alert the whole of the internet to this fact if they aren't already.
Clearly they want the world to know - let them know how much they value Selens life.

>>68411194
PR team doko?

>>68417710
I chuckled, thanks anon.

>>68417566
>You guys are just falseflagging to make nijifags sound brown and retarded.
you really dont need to falseflag to make nijifags sound retarded when they do it themselves very easily
Pic related

>Say retarded shit
>Brag about getting (you)s
>Is still retarded, but now with the attention of random anons on a shitty internet board

>>68417710
If Selen do the dogeza in front if Riku I might try. But thanks to your google vocabulary Ma'am.

>thank you for you's again.
>Do it again Anon
>i'd like to see you try.

>>68411194
Waht about Pomy AND Selen. Is that a big deal?

>>68411698
lol what a clown

>>68411415
>>68416982
>>68417143
>>68417209
>>68416305
>>68416598
The NDF really aren’t sending their best.

>>68417710
Please anon he’s already dead!

>>68411619

>>68411415

>>68418531
What the fuck is NDF mean X-tard? Another script from dramafags? Oh okay.

>>68411415
https://ssl4.eir-parts.net/doc/5032/ir_material1/223224/00.pdf

>>68418531
those are their best anon

>>68411698
The absolute state of nijisanji

>>68412163
This is actually a pretty reasonable statement though? It even starts out by criticizing management. Not saying I agree but it's not particularly bad.

>>68417430
社畜お疲れ

>>68415002
any normal human with morals would side with selen although nijinigs are exception to that

>>68419216
>Any normal
>vtubing
There are no normal people here.

>>68418679
Go away newfaggot brownoid

>>68413002
Not only that, they only do this for Selen, no other graduations or terminations make them do this.

>>68415002
Reading through JP twitter during the first day of the termination, I lost all hope thinking that nearly every person in Japan was a corporate bootlicker. But reading that yahoo page has restored my faith somewhat that people can come to their fucking senses when money is involved. There's actually people posting comments with info from the western pov and roasting the shit out of kurosanji. And them questioning necessity of the IR. I can't believe it.

>>68417206
It was delayed twice before, my rrat would be no one in the management bothered to check anything regarding the MV (perms, videos, etc) and kept delaying it. Selen then forced them to release it on Christmas, and they were forced to review it at that time. Perms were fine on the first and second time but probably something changed after that Christmas release.

I bet they're scrambling so hard to damage control this entire situation. Coming up with fucking anything to save face with viewer and share holder alike and to make them look like the good guys in the situation. This was the best they could come up with; a cope. "Everything is fine, don't worry, everyone." While wiping their brow of sweat and holding back tears. After years of bullshit and the Selen termination is what really sent people over the edge. They lost their best asset among the EN audience and think everything will be okay. Sure they have a bunch of livers, but do they even compare to Selen's numbers (not to be a numberfag)?

>>68420854
JP fans don't give a shit so I doubt management cares as much as you describe it.

>>68420854
>Selen's numbers
A 2k shitter? Yes they have a lot of people in their recent (JP) waves that get more viewers than her.

>>68411194
>Talent tries to commit suicide
Stealth Graduate them for optics
>Talent is Terminated, because many reasons
People are upset
>People make stock go down, other talents get irritated and withdraw from social media
This was no big deal for Nijisanji

The fruits of Riku's tree is rotten.

>>68421299

>>68411415
I want to believe this is a false-flag because the alternative is this guy really is this retarded. That's just too cruel.

>>68420465
Too bad you can check comment history there holobrony. It's a mix of people who usually only post on Cover's page and people with no other comment history.

>>68421299
>A 2k shitter? Yes they have a lot of people in their recent (JP) waves that get more viewers than her.
>(JP)
I'm pretty sure he meant in (EN)

>>68421299
What about people in her branch, you know, EN?

It's very interesting seeing them flop around like this

>>68411194
Nothing says more how big deal it is, than denying it's a big deal publicly

>>68412163
>Enna getting mad about 'justice boners' and 'virtue signaling'
Turns out it isn't so fun when the shoe's on the other foot, huh Enna?

>>68416982
Hello future suicide victim a la Japanese net failure! Be sure to take a boot with you to lick on the way down the building!

>>68420338
Has any other graduation or termination caused an internet wide mutiny though?

>>68411194
Just HOW...HOW FUCKING PETTY can this one company be? Holyshit. Dancing on their ashes will be sweet asf.

>>68411918
> financially negligible but irreparable to their reputation
So their reputation is worthless?

>>68417430
I'm sorry that your fast food place doesn't value you and makes you think like this, hopefully things can improve in your life soon!

>>68411415
wtf you're right I love niji now

>>68421851
Based logicsister

what's his endgame?

is there a compilation of all nijisanji drama anywhere?

>>68422457
https://boards.4chan.org/vt

>>68422457
There was a rentry with a bunch of shit and Enna even had her own page within that. Sadly, I don't have the link saved.

>>68419022
It's neglecting the pattern of incompetence and malice the management has had for years now. They regularly make their talents break down in tears, ffs. It'd be better for all those talents if EN was dissolved, as the only possible out would be to sack all the management and fold them into JP.

>>68414740
Oh boy am I ready to see investors sue Anycolor for this

>>68417209
The company got permissions from both Lily and the producer in 2022.

The only other possible "copyright issue" would be with their own IP. (Though it turns out that discord pic is fake, so it's not even that.)

Either they forgot they had permissions or chose to ignore it. So it's either incompetence or malice. Much like their implying that someone's oshi was bullied to the point of suicide by some of their talents.

>>68412163
She was giving hearts to every comment. Nice try satan.

>>68421637
You have no idea wtf you're talking about lol.

>>68421851
They might just choose to axe EN altogether and go all in on the Chinese market.
Their reputation in the anglosphere may be unsalvageable, but financially, they'll end up doing just fine.

>>68421851
Always has been

>>68422888
you know maybe the management is so terrible that they forgot that they have permission for the song since 2022.

>>68422946
The comment talk about pain and suffering of Selen didn't get heart tho.
Nice try nijinigger

>That's all the document is
Is Nijisanji actually retarded? Don't answer that.
If an investor saw the shitstorm happening right now and the document comes out with only
>Uhhh it wont actually effect us financially. Pinky swear.
I'd pull the fuck out in a heart beat.

>>68411194
How hard would it be for a Gaijin to buy AnyColor stock on the Tokyo stock exchange, and sell it off for a single yen? I've got some money to burn and I'd like to do something more destructive with it than just donating it to Dokibird.

Is there a website one can go to in order to buy and sell small quantities of Japanse stock? I mean, Dokibird went from 10K to 300K in less than four hours. What would happen if 5% of them or so purchased 1000¥ worth of shares and sold them for 1¥?

Maybe something to ask >>>/biz/

>>68423053
Yes, again, either extreme incompetence or extreme malice. So either they deserved to be sacked or they deserve to be prosecuted.

>>68423209
200K*

>>68423209
I don't think any broker allows you to sell stock at below market value.

>>68423209
Literally impossible, there are regulations which prevents that from happening

>>68423209
Difficult because thats illegal.
Instead, short the stock as its falling then buy enough to show up to a shareholder meeting.
Make sure you bring ALL your pomu and Selen merch, and even a dokibird T-shirt or something and then just go off king on all of them. (Do it in mandarin for bonus points)

>>68421851
look at Nike, EXXON, Apple, Nestlé, etc
corporations can be as openly corrupt and cartoonishly evil as they want and still roll in money, it doesn't matter

>>68423590
These companies are not only WAY bigger and sell WAY more important products ingrained in our society, but their business model doesn't rely on direct donations from their customers.

>>68421423
>even in JP, holobronies pretend to be disgruntled nijisanji fans
Good grief.

>>68423731
Nijisanji is big in Japan. The thing with this drama is at worst it's only going to kill the EN branch. JP will continue to exist, same as ever. But that will be enough for this board which is a bunch of EOPs that only watch ENs anyway. They don't care if Nijisanji as a whole dies. They just want NijiEN gone and they'll be satisfied.

>>68417209
Song Producer Perms check
Artist perms check
Appearance of certain livers? FAIL
if this is what really happened then the situation is as grim as the rrats as this indirectly proves that there is bullying inside the company and one of the livers did not agree to be featured in the MV which leads to the possibility that it is an active talent

>>68411194
How do you work as a screamer for Nijisanji, see this and not think you're just as negligible to them yourself?

>>68423324
300K*

>>68423209
You can't buy fractional share in Japan.

>>68411698
>threat to the ongoing activities of other affiliated livers
Absoloutely insane wording, makes her look like a terrorist or cm punk beating the shit out of people backstage

>>68414740
Seriously though, what the fuck were they thinking?

>>68411194
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca

>>68423993
>JP will continue to exist, same as ever.
Not so sure about that - although Selen's firing will have zero impact on the JP branch, they just had a high profile graduation from a talent who said their whole gen was thinking about quitting. Their management style seems completely unsustainable to me.

>>68421107
Management definitely gives a shit when they are releasing statements about their financial wellebing. EN is only about 20% of their revenue, but that's still fucking 1/5th of your entire company. That's your profit margin for the year.

>>68425197
>their whole gen was thinking about quitting
I mean, they had a good run
But if it's because of negligence and mismanagement rather than just getting bored of streaming for too long, then yikes

>>68419022
The thing is that boycotting NijiEN is very simple. You just don't watch them and don't support the new talents. Which I started doing years ago. As people get more and more pissed off with managent, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect more and more people to just start watching other vtubers, especially former NijiEN chuubas that go indie or to vshojo. The branch has completely kneecapped their own growth potential at this point.

>>68413068
The pettiness is unbelievable. If hololive did this the board would be on fire for months.

>>68425319
All the big streamers graduating from Nijisanji carry on to keep streaming after leaving it. The company is the only problem.

>>68423209
You could short Anycolor by bying Cover stock

>>68423993
EN was responsible for something like 20% of their revenue and was a key part of their growth strategy. They were already getting questions from investors when EN missed its revenue projection last quarter, torpedoing the entire branch via management stupidity NijiKR-style would be really bad.

>>68411194
What's the score now?
>Western fanbase in outward revolt against the company
>Multiple positions for EN management suddenly open up meaning a bunch of people just got fired
>Multiple artists, animators and other creatives blacklisting Nijisanji
>Big and small creators all coming out with their horror stories confirming what we all knew
>Stock price taking a hit
>Nijisanji tells investors "Everything is fine" as the flames grow larger

If only their termination statement was as short and sweet as this and quite literally none of this would have happened. Doki would not have felt the need to correct the record. Nijisanji could have played the part of ignorant but ultimately innocent company with plausible deniability. If only fucking EN management wasn't literally the most incompetent, petty and childish retards on Earth who just wanted to put one more knife into her back even as they were firing her.

I feel bad for all the genuinely good ENs who are caught up in this shit storm like Ren, Vivi, Reimu and Rosemi. They mightn't have a job at the end of this quarter.

>>68425603
Despite what the console wars on this board might lead you to believe, that is not how things work. In fact bad news for one company in a sector often results in everyone else's stocks also going down if it's seen as hurting consumer confidence

>>68422521
I laughed

>>68425882
I'm fully aware but this is closest thing any non-JP anon can do if they want to short Anycolor.

>>68412054
Disney has been going to shit lately too

>>68415122
Poor Rosemi.

>>68422332
Suffering and financial loss for anyone associated with him.

>>68417430
This would actually blow his own brains out because his McDonalds manager told him to do it
Actual subhuman slave race

>>68421637
Nobody who uses “virtue signaling” sincerely is a good person.

>>68415122
What the fuck

>>68423096
This is how Japan works. Investors like to see the dishonorable pigs who leave their soulless corporations humiliated and dehumanized. And even that’s because they can’t ritually kill them and get away with it anymore.

>>68425865
Reimu is part of the clique and i read earlier that she backed Enna and Millie in their bullying.

>>68426415
Clearly even JP investors know that JP corporate culture does not fly outside of Asia.

>AnyColor
>they chose red

>>68423048
Apparently vtubers with over 100k subs will have to doxx themselves in public registries if they operate in China according to a new law by the CCP.
I expect the vtubing industry in China to be dead within a couple months if it turns out to be true.

>>68426727
ACCELERATE!

>>68411194
This looks like a fucking shitpost there is no way
>isreal

>>68426431
Reimu is 100% confirmed with Nina, as for Selen I do think Reimu kept some distance from it but her involvement I don't know. She escaped to JP for a bit which was a smart move by her.

>>68425197
Yeah it doesnt make Niji look good when your no.1 talents graduate, pop up a few days later without losing an audience and then mock how shit your management is while other people who did the same join in.

>>68426536
I remember when it was only a 2.5% drop and people were coping about it
>2.5% is nothing
>totally normal market fluctuation
>you think japanese investors care about en drama?
>anycolor will just do a stock buy back anyway and keep the price stable

Now it's fucking down 10%, holy shit that's emergency meeting material

>>68426899
Nina, Mysta, Selen and even Zaion are doing great outside of Nijisanji. Pomu will kill it wherever she goes. I don't know how EN, who already had a problem with talent retention is going to survive this.

>>68425440
Bullshit. Where did Gibara go?

>>68411464
NOTHING HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 5TH 2024
NOTHING HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 5TH 2024
NOTHING HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 5TH 2024
NOTHING HAPPENED ON JUNE 4th 1989
NOTHING HAPPENED ON FEBRUARY 5TH 2024

>>68427053
I give them a year tops before they end up merged into the main branch. I expect a lot more graduations going forward.

>>68426536
Don't worry, they'll just do another stock buyback like they've been doing the past few months

>>68426887
KEK

>>68427211
Oh, you don't know? She got married to me

starting to feel like an all out war

>>68427324
NijiEN didn't do as well as they expected

>>68426926
I wonder how sisters can claim 2.5% is nothing when that's more than their talents get.

>>68411415
how did we get to the point where people are spoonfed information and are still this retarded to look into it?

>>68427324
If Doki says a name it's fucking over for Niji. If a liver says a name it's over. Civil War is also happening internally right now while they are shadow suspended.

>>68427433
It's the low ball shit posting method of defense. It doesn't work, just proves they are going stupid.

>>68427394
Just feeling a bit down and depressed recently.

>>68427433
unironically it is zoomer attention span

>>68427211
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdUpvKm_lTc9w9fy7HdrR9g

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>68411698
Nijikeks I cant

>>68427438
If Doki says a name she's getting sued for defamation. And in a Japanese court she'd lose.

>>68427438
I doubt Doki will drop any names. It'd maker her liable, and she already lawyered up.

>>68411415
Brain of an average nijinigger

>>68425388
You say this as if the board will not be on fire for months. This isn't like politics where one side gets a free pass for anything and the other has to walk on eggshells. Whether it's Hololive or Nijisanji, their mistakes are not forgotten easily.

>>68427661
Sadly, this means she also can't claim anyone is innocent, thus removing them from danger.

>>68411918
Sure all their EN audiance has started watching their JP vtubers, the 14% YOY decrease is a nothingburger.

Anyone still staying in nijisanji is morally compromised.
A talent WILL survive off the goodwill of not only their fans but the people who just want nijisanji to suffer.

>>68427644
I don't think opening the door to lawsuits is in Nijis best interests considering Canadian law

>>68427794
Trudeau will extradite Selen

>>68427741
I've only ever cared about soulful nijihags like Anke, Furen and Toko, but the EN branch drama is like food for my soul.
I hope it continues.

>>68416598
>सेम
GTL isn't helping you here nijinigger

>>68411415
It is right in front of you. Do you want someone to shove it down your throat? It's probably filled with someone's dick already but I'm sure you've got room for more.

>>68427589
Yeah that's on your side, it's still there.

>>68428012
If it's only blocked in SEA then that's kinda based

>>68423993
JP is being hard carried by Kuzuha for 2 years now, the retarded management is slowly poisoning the brand chis graduation means the cracks are forming at their foundation.

>>68427324
Year three of NijiENs two week special military operation.

>>68428038
Someone should archive it regardless, who knows if they might take it down at some point.

>>68428012
>>68428038
nvm I had noscript enabled

>>68427644
>>68427661
Far enough, which I agree with too. This gives the livers room to maneuver. Crazy bozo was right that the Truth will set you free. The livers have to pick a side and most should honor Selen. What's crazy is that I have a strong feeling Elira had a falling out, I wonder what she will do.

>>68411194

>>68427741
I hope some of the good ENs see the writing on the wall and jump ship before they get dragged through the mud.

>>68427564
Thanks. What about Mayuzumi, did he ever come back? I feel like I should start subscribing to ex-Nijis and support anyone who had the sense to get out of there.

>>68427644
Canary bird method.
Just say the names of everyone who didn't bully you and let people put 2 and 2 together.

>>68428204
I'd be shocked if we didn't see a bunch of graduations starting within the next month

>>68425865
Reimu is one of the bullies

>>68428276
I've been predicting this will be like AkioAir 2.0 where the company pisses off way too many people at once and the talents say "fuck it" and get out. I have a feeling I am going to be right and then I will repeatedly point at my own post and say see? I predicted it.

>>68428252
That's still liable.

>>68427238
I wonder how the clique will fare in the bigger branch of JP lol.
Will be fun seeing scum like Enna and Millie at the bottom of the totem pole.

>>68428366
Situation kinda reminds me of Game Club Project it's so bad. Absoloute shitshow.

>>68411415
PROOF? PROOF??? MAY I SEE THE PROOOFS?
DOES THE DOCUMENT HAVE A FINGERPRINT OF THE CEO WITH HIS DNA ON IT? DIDN'T THINK SO!

>>68428366
I don't want graduations. I want more spergouts and terminations, enough that the cracks could reach all the way to JP. I just want to see more proof that we live in a comedy timeline rather than a serious one.

>>68411194

>>68427794
At that point it becomes a battle between which court awards more money to the winner. Still likely not a fight she'd want to fight.

>>68428458
God that's a name I haven't heard in years

>>68428225
https://www.youtube.com/@Yamien

>>68428407
I seriously doubt you can get sued for defamation because you didn't say something. But I don't really know.

>>68421299
2k places her top 5 for NijiEN. So yeah, losing a top player in what's supposed to be a strong growth market is a big deal.

>>68428625
Dang he is kind of an uggo. Oh well, still subbed.

>>68428225
Some Anon just recently gave me Yago, who is surprisingly successful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrIs26bEKOvA_lRnO2Hgscw

And of course Zaion, not so much so:
https://www.youtube.com/@SincronisityYT

Go give them some love.

>>68428709
NTA but I think it depends how you say it. If you just say "HERE IS A LIST OF THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T BULLY ME" then yeah it's liable. If you're more like "oh I'm still really good friends with x" and then later you're like "i was actually talking to y a few days ago" and play it out over time then obviously it shouldn't be.

>>68429112
Zaion became a Twitch streamer, then started dual streaming when she was allowed..
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu

Didn't pick up as much as Yugo but definitely not as bad as the youtube indicates.

>>68428509
>which court
What do you even mean? A canadian citizen isn't subject to japanese court jurisdiction while living in Canada, but in order to operate in Canada and employ canadian residents, Anycolour has to willingly subject itself to Federal and provincial regulatory jurisdiction. They can be audited for their finances here. They can be sued here.
There's no 'competition' between different legal systems--that would be insane. This is far from the first time there have been transnational legal issues like this. It's easy for Japan to employee Canadian citizens and vice versa because both countries agree to binding treaties that mediate these relationships and employee right enforcement.

The cut and dry truth is that if Selen has a case she can pursue it, and such a case would be pursued behind closed doors in order to protect the privacy of those involved. If Anycolour is subject to legal action, their recourse would be to defend their innocence or settle out of court, but they may still be subject to punitive charges for violating the binding regulations they agreed to when they decided to do business in Canada.

Where the truth lies and whether Selen has a case or not is not something we can possibly know. But even just reading the publicly available information on the BC gov website about employee rights and employer responsibilities makes it clear that Anycolour has been accused of something quite serious.

>>68429112
Is Yugo a Twitch streamer now too or does he really just stream once every few months and that's it? I don't see a lot of streams on that channel.

>>68429247
>>68429112
Oh nice, subbed.

>>68416598
>सेम
What did you input to the translator?

>>68429273
The nit and gritty doesn't even matter. The hard facts we have alone are enough.

Selen suffered workplace harassment period, and that environment is reflected on her mental and physicial health and it's something echoed in other former employees who have "escaped" the company.

No matter how NijiEN may try to spin this, the fact is that a good portion of VTuber news in 2023 were dedicated to exposing NijiEN's mismanagement and mistreatment of their talents. And this alone is all anyone needs to know.

>>68411194
time for management to whip out the ol reliable
https://youtu.be/FcP0jFLHenA?si=9nw1L3jIvfSvMe6l

I hope they are preparing someone to come out and accuse Selen of sexual molestation. The only way to win this PR nuke war is to pull out the sexual molestation nuke before she does it and blocks nijien from doing it.

>>68430063
Sexual molestation accusations don't work against women.

Did you know that if you click the link in the OP, and go to "contact", you can leave Anycolor a nice message to get them through this trying time

>>68430063
finana is keeping selen on a tight leash so that could never happen

>>68429747
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove in court.

>selen breaks the rules
>selen lies about bullying
>selen lies about attempting suicide
Why does everyone believe an obvious grifter? It doesn't matter though, all of the unsubs were dead subs anyway. The rest of the talents will be fine.

>>68418719
grim...

>>68430514
Riku, this won't make your stock go back up

>>68417307
>likes to lurking here
>her banter it's just

They struggle with third grade English, folks, they're not sending their best.

>>68430514
>all of the unsubs were dead subs anyway.
???
If they were dead subs they wouldn't be able to unsub.

>>68411415
Is this really the quality of people left after the great Nijisanji exodus from the NDF? Goddamn you're stupid

>>68420465
Too many people have been portraying the Japanese as corporate worshipping space aliens in the last few days. The reason so many are supporting Nijisanji is because of a mix of the language barrier keeping them from knowing what has really been going on with the EN branch combined with concerns that bad things happening to the company might harm their own Niji oshis.

However, it seems like as more details about what happened to Selen have filtered through the language barrier, some of them have started to turn against the company. I think the more they come to understand what happened, the more they will turn on Niji or at least stop actively defending them.

>>68422946
Ah yes and that makes it better

>>68411415
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink I guess

>>68423522
kek

>>68411194
SELEN WHO?

>>68430836
It's basically impossible for the NDF to defend this because it's just so awful. The best they can argue is "nothing happened she's making it all up" or "maybe something happened but she shares part of/most of the blame."

The problem is the stories of other graduated Livers all also say the same kinds of things. It isn't just one person who can be handwaved away as a menhera. They tried to do the same thing with Zaion but it's impossible to do with Selen.

>>68419022
is never a big deal when is not his oshi getting fucked
Just like people that didn't watch Yugo or Zaion gave no fucks to their termination

>>68411415
Its all FAKE. DO NOT FALL FOR SCAM SIRS. ONLY I WILL PROTECT YOU. SEND GIFT CARD NOW!

>>68430851
The language barrier shouldn't be that big a deal. There are tons of English people who are fluent in Japanese, and vice versa. This is something that should have been communicated on the very first day. I am tired of treating the Japanese as innocent babies foiled by that pesky language barrier.

Enna did nothing wrong

>>68433642
she didn't sit on my face with her femcel ass

>>68428458
Nothing. I mean NOTHING can top Gamebu shit. That shit literally killed the WHOLE VTUBER INDUSTRY.

>>68429112
>>68429247
Wait wtf Sayu is Zaion?!

>>68436529
Yeah? I'm guessing you knew Sayu but never watched Nijisanji or something, because it was pretty well known.

>>68427644
Canada is not going to extradite one of their citizens for a defamation case in another country

>>68411194
can't you get a hefty fine for releasing false statements to shareholders?

>>68437332
it's a negligible fine

>>68411194
Negligible?
Yes.
Negotiable?
No.

>>68429283
Most likely the latter but I think Yugo prefers to focus on music. Also Yugo's doing a concert with Shxtou which is surprising.

>>68437332
It has to be knowingly false. So you have to have emailed someone saying that you knew this would have a large impact.

>>68437332
Knowingly lying to investors is a crime, being wrong because you're really stupid isn't, and we've all seen how they've handled things recently so they have a good defense there

>>68417307
SEAnigger

>>68425319
>But if it's because of negligence and mismanagement rather than just getting bored of streaming for too long, then yikes
That OG niji graduated and immediately debuted as an indie afterwards.
It's not smooth sailing for nijisanji regardless of this en clusterfuck. They all know it's bad.

>>68437332
There's no way a court of law could directly connect this statement to falling stock prices even though it's obviously at least a part of it. Even if it dipped to 1k yen.

>>68433321
I mean, look at how many people thought Rushia got fired for having a boyfriend instead of breaking NDA. It’s easy to dismiss someone who knows both languages and did the research as just some obsessive playing defense for their own reasons.
There’s not much incentive for most people in Japan to care about what’s going on in EN. If you haven’t been following this drama (which you wouldn’t unless you were following EN vtubing more generally) you’re not going to have the context to immediately realize that yes, the EN branch really is that badly run.
Look at the number of anons /here/ who think the Selen disaster is reflective of how the JP branch operates. They suck too, but anyone with even a little knowledge of the JP scene knows it’s nowhere near as bad as EN (at least, not in the same ways).

>>68411194
I don't get in, what the fuck were they thinking? It's an investor relations report, when something shit happens you go
>regrettably we had to do X, but income from X was declining from A, B, and C and only made up % of overall revenue whereas we are confident that recent growth from Y and Z will continue and offset the loss from minor X
not just
>X doesn't matter, believe us

>>68438190
I am upset at how plausible an income that is

>>68422946
>like all the mean comments
>like all the positive comments
>secretly agree with one of them but won't have it be known to public cause all comments were liked
yeah, this is some sociopathic behavior.

>>68438651
The drop wasn't caused by the statement, the statement was an attempt to get in front of any drop that happened.
They're a growth stock, they've been saying overseas is their best opportunity for growth, and after a quarter where EN missed its projections by a mile, they've lost two of their most popular overseas talents and torpedoed their reputation in the process. Any investor with a brain can see this will have a negative impact.

>>68439080
That's what makes no sense, look at the other reports on the website, they're more along the lines of the first example you gave. It almost feels like deliberate sabotage, or gloating, like they're saying "We feel so invincible that we're rubbing it in your face that nothing is going to happen to us."

>>68414740

Telling investors not to panic is a guaranteed way to make investors panic.

The TSE opens again in roughly five and a half hours, for those tracking the stock and message board. Coincidentally, Doki should be streaming shortly afterwards.

How do I short Niji stock?

>>68442425
stockanon...