/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68341687
boyfriend mention incoming

they had sex

>>68341687
>Made her watch Twilight
What a fucking monster

oc its my little cute owl

>>68341687
>>68247067

>>68341687
>she even made me watch twilight
JESUS CHRIST HOW TERRIFYING

Who that? Looks like an amateur artist.

>>68341687
But anons kept telling me they're barely acquaintances??

>>68341794
I.... I kneel

>>68341834
Yes, the ones who knew each other before Mumei even met council, who stay up to 4am playing fps games together, and who DM'd each other in excitement about making it into a corpo are barely acquaintances.
That rrat was always doomed to fail

>>68341794

I'd like to think of them as a cute yuri couple that had lots of girl-girl sex.

But unfortunately Doki was kinda uncute in the photo of her around.

>>68341794
I kneel.... Selemoom is endgame...

>>68341687
I fucking kneel. Owl is so based

but never collabed with her during niji

>>68341794
>every rrat was true....all of it...

I kneel

>>68341794
>>68341885
Genius anon-chamas...

Awww... Moom having gex with Doki to calm her down.

>>68341976
ENTER NEWSHART

>>68341687
>she even made me watch twilight
poor girl

>>68341794
Holy fuck. The rrats are actually real.

>>68341687
Oh for fuck's sake. The rrat about Mumei's sudden break has also been basically confirmed.
RRATGODS, I KNEEL.

>>68341687
>>68341794
Meanwhile all of her niji "friends" were streaming and having fun as if nothing happened while she was in the hospital.

>>68341914
I honestly can't help but think you people have been jerking off to anime women so much that you've forgotten what real attractive women look like. Doki is cute as fuck in her pics.

>>68341687
holy fuck, this based fucking owl. I kneel!

>>68341687
Is this THAT shachi that have almost canceled Selen for wanting to play the wizard game?

>>68341794

>>68341999
>having gex with Doki to calm her down
She really should not have taken career advice from Joe Piscapo

rratmancers, I kneel

>stayed over at shachis and watched twilight

>>68342212
Oh wait that's owl. Apologies.

>>68342212
????????
Wrong game and wrong person lmao
Selen never liked Harry Potter

>uses her million wish to bring her in EN4
Rate rrat

Mumei stays winning.

Could've picked any movie and she picked Twilight....

>>68341687
I fucking kneel.

>>68341687
>she made me watch twilight
this shachi sounds like just another bully baka

She was just sitting in the room after a suside attempt watching mumei reach 1 million while her company terminated her.
That's fucking brutal.

Imagine your own corpo being so bad you need someone from another corpo just to show you a modicum of human decency.

Every single rrat, each and every one of them, is real...

>>68341976
Does nijiEn have a "getting to know" stage before they debut? Like 2-3 months preparation?
Why do they have these cliques and the not-in-cliques? Feels like highschool bullshit.

>>68341687
>she made me watch twilight
we found the bully

>>68341794
Start of the break doesn’t line up at all, but it explains why it dragged on as long as it did.
>>68341834
They didn’t have much public interaction before Selen joined Nijisanji, so they assumed the two didn’t interact much at all because private conversations apparently don’t exist.

>>68341687
>watch twilight

It’s not that I didn’t respect her before, but my respect for Mumei really went up. She was there for a friend that needed someone, especially after an attempt. She prioritised that over everything.

>>68341794

>>68342400
>Does nijiEn have a "getting to know" stage before they debut? Like 2-3 months preparation?
Both Niji and Holo has those yes

>>68341794
They called him a mad man.

>>68342444
Then that preparation phase fell off, management's fuck ups started way before their debut or just that nijiEn accepted a bunch of bad apples.
I feel nauseous whenever I see nijiEN news these past 2 months.

>>68341687
>twilight
maybe nijisanji isn't that bad after all

>>68341687
>takes someone to do an attempt for UNITY
At this point I'll take anything I can get

>>68342309
It strikes me as something that they might have done before, like see it at the theater together. Gives her a moment of nostalgia to ground her and remind her what she still has around her.
they probably rifftrax'd the whole time; laughing at how bad it is, curled up in a blanket, drinking hot cocoa together as animal played by their feet.

>>68341794
SchizoCHAD?

>>68341794
imagine all the hot sex
explains why Mumei has a thing for asian women like kronii

>Wasted her break to save a fat chink whore.
Fucking retarded owl. Should have just let the nijinigger die. The only good nijinigger is a dead one. Selen, Enna, Millie, all of them should be dead.

>>68341794
>>68341885
>one of the few correct rrats were ridiculed in their time
I kneel

>>68342068
>>68342309
>>68342329
>>68342421
>>68342428
>>68342581

>>68341687

>>68342378
>>68341982
>>68341982
the EN4 rrat...

>>68342304
Told you niggers every Holo has a nepocard/10

This vtuber world is really small isn't it? This is like a TV show where some random stranger turns out to be a friend or uncle of the MC

>>68342762
So you're saying Fallenshadow will be in EN through Fauna?

>>68342782
I mean their friendship has been known for a while

>>68342444
Niji EN DID it, now they're kinda plopped in for a couple or so weeks.

>>68342574
Early Niji were literally just 80% Elira's old friends.
Nina already revealed what happens if you weren't part of the friend group, you got excluded.

>>68341794
They say it's the year of the dragon.
They never expected it's the year of the rrats.

>>68342782
A couple years ago you could basically trace any 1view dying channel to any 4 digit big name within line three steps

>>68341885
>something "embarrassing to explain"
They had sex
Pity sex

>>68342794
And the Holo said:
>"A husband should be able to beat his wife if she cheats"

>>68341687
Silly funny owl truly is a gift from a higher being

>>68342840
Cute

>>68342840
>this fan art is canon
The Dragoon in the left is me btw

I bet she’ll be proven a nonce like the last guy she defended

>>68342304
>>68342304
>You just broke your Dokibird out of a Nijisanji Black Site where you found her weak and malnourished
>Nijiniggers are chasing you down
>you are calling in /vt/ for back up
>the Freebird riff just kicked in
>https://youtu.be/tvkxupwbFLk?si=3p5Sw4_iNDmJN3x2
>You're name is Nanashi Mumei

>>68341687
How exactly did they become friends? Does anyone know? Mumei isn't chink right?

>cheating whore who cheated on her bf
>menhera BPD whore who cheats on her fans with Nocturnal
A well made match indeed.

>>68342733
he like me fr fr

>>68342972
That bf. Me.

>>68341687
respect for her skyrocketed, she was always one my favs but this just further cements it

>>68342972
Kys

>>68341687
those are my girlfriends.

>>68341982
>>68341976
>EVERY RRAT IS TRUE ALL OF IT

ENNA MILLIE RRAT IS REAL

>>68342972
That bf, the guy she cheated on her bf with, and Nocturnal? All me

You could make a movie about this shit, it fucking writes itself

>>68342972

>>68342972
N I J I SEETHE
I J I SEETHE
J I SEETHE
I SEETHE
SEETHE
EETHE
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THE
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>>68341794
Has Selen secretly been updating us /here/ ever since the suspension? How the fuck are ALL the rrats about the whole situation true??

>>68342972
Still trying to push old dead narratives? Keep paying real money for those ban evades like a good cuck lmao

>>68342928
I think someone said Doki commissioned some art back in the day.

>>68343057
Ngl it wouldn't be weird

>>68342130
>cute as fuck
Fat as fuck actually

>>68342794
Perhaps, I think Fauna could that. In addition there's Pomu who's a prime candidate. Seeing the rrats about Jap creating HoloEN Gamers makes it more believable that more ex-corpo chuubas will brought in and we will see EN4 as probably the craziest gen to debut. Fuck we might even get Miori in EN4

>>68342762
i will believe you when milkyqueen gets in

>>68343026
You’re not gonna believe this

>>68342794
I thought they hate each other now

>>68343050
Sell it to hallmark or great american network
it'll do gang busters.

>>68343099
Imagine if gen 4 was:
Pomu, Shondo, Doki, and Miori

>>68342733
Everytime I see this I'm reminded that I really need to track this down.

>>68341794
w-why twilight tho?

>>68343137
RUMAO. This is now all but confirmed

>>68341794
Hats off to Moomers

>>68342840
Yeah, with me

>>68342304
Plausable, but given her experience with the retards of Niji's management, I doubt Doki is willing to sign up to another corpo anytime soon, even if a guaranteed slot was on the cards

>>68342928
My guess is doki commissioned shachimu for her OC and they become friends

>>68341687
That is very nice of mumei, but I hope selen eventually gets her shit together and doesn't rely on mumei to get her indie career going

>>68343195
Would you prefer The Room or Ancient Aliens?

>>68342304
>>68342304
Fuck off, she's done with JP corpos. She does not want some retarded nip manager standing over her shoulder telling her what she can and can't do. She'll most likely stay indie for the foreseeable future.

>>68341739
yeah me

>>68343281
Seeing as how she went from 20k to 250k subs in less than 24 hours, I think she'll be ok

>>68343137
People already figured it out

>>68341794
I will not kneel, but I will stand at attention and salute. She started the break before the incident, and took more time during it to take good care of a friend. Very sweet.

>>68343265
https://twitter.com/shachimu/status/1357171616300503040
So they know eachother for 4 years, at least

>>68341687
Nijibros, are we the baddies and are holofags the goodies?

>>68343185
Anon literally search "genderbent twilight". It's the first result.

>>68343406
At the very least pre corpo. They have a cute story about it too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj2vUMd1F2A

>>68342972
welp, looks like it’s time for me to go spelunking in the archives to figure out what this is all about, wish me luck

>>68341794
I cannot be the only one that thought this was obvious right? Maybe I've been here too long and I've become one with the rrats...
But seriously, I just couldn't picture Mumei being able to stream in peace after knowing that Selen wanted to kill herself. It was just a 2 + 2 situation for me.

>>68342309
They're millennial women you dingus. They love that twilight shit

Has there ever been a case of a terminated Niji or Holo being able to collab with Holos or Nijis after reincarnating? Is a Doki and Mumei collab even a possibility in the future?

>>68343329
>>68343242
>her best friend can take breaks for however long she wants
>her best friend's corpo doesn't have cliques of nasty whores who bully each other
>her best friend get more than 2% from merch sales
>her best friend has better management
>doki never had any of that
I'm sure Doki would rather become an indie than go to company where her best friend is treated well and can vouch for them. You retarded vshojofags kys

>>68343438
No holo is the baddies we are the worsedies

>>68342359
Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure she said during the shill stream that she wasn't going to do a 1M stream, what are the chances Doki convinced her to stream it?

>>68343242
>a slot in hololive
>nah dawg, pass on that
Absolute retard

>>68343441
Anon, I can just search the name thats clearly visible on the image. I was talking about finding an actual copy.

>>68343541
You’re assuming the thought process is going to be entirely rational.

>>68343593
Ptsd does a lot to a person
Doki might be super fucked mentally now when it comes corpos

>>68343593
I said anytime soon, I never said it would never happen

>>68343541
Doki seems really happy to be free of Japanese perm autism.

>>68343570
She said at the time she wasn’t sure. Maybe she got that push, but it probably wasn’t the only thing.

>>68341687
>Doki goes yandere for mumei
You rike

i will masturbate to mumei from now on

>>68343735
You'll have to put in extra hours to catch up to the rest of us

>>68343702
ME RIKEY

>>68343593
A Hololive slot wouldn't open up until next year anyways.

>>68343242
Judging from her tweets it seems to me that she just wants the freedom to do what she wants for a while. She is talking about doing Neopets, and members Garfield kart streams which indicate to me that she just wants to be unbound by corpos for the moment.

>>68342837
You can probably still do it.

>>68343540
in niji yea, chiichan (also recently graduated and reborn as indie) collabed with a bunch of former nijis

>>68341794
Everything we rrat about nijisanji becomes true

>>68343804
>He doesn't know

What if the opposite happened?
The owl graduate and return to indie to be with her friend

>>68343365
>The WWE stream
QRD??

>>68343540
there's always a first time for everything.

>>68341794
rattbros...

>>68343896
Dmitrichad I will kneel so hard to break my kneecap if you manage the assemble the HoloAvengers team

>>68343949
Enna was a massive bitch during it iirc

>>68341794
RRATDEITIES I FUCKING KNEEL

>>68343679
yeah, and she can enjoy them for the months it takes for the cooling off period of her non compete and gen4 being put together.

>the most unlikely rrat became true

>>68341687
>>68341794
I just wanna clarify anons, Pomu was not part of any of the bullying right?

>>68344010
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?

>>68344090
Pomu is a victim herself.

>>68344090
Pomu was Doki's best friend while in Niji so no. She was also the only one to mention her on her graduation stream iirc.

Maybe this really is the final yab. Every rrat that was posted turned out to be completely true. We thought the final yab would claim hololive but actually it's going to claim niji?

>>68344090
Nothing is confirmed, but we can make assumptions. Selen and Pomu had some of the best chemistry in the company. She's pretty much off the list

>>68342760
That is the one that WILL NOT HAPPEN

>>68343147
Renewed their friendship over an year ago iirc. There's rrats that shondo applied to EN 3 but gave up

>>68344090
https://fxtwitter.com/dearsqn/status/1754666273252982829?t=NPjU9WwvfqXtHLXZiFVjeg&s=19

>>68343939
Mumei just got 1 million subs, and Doki wouldn't want her to sacrifice her career like that

>>68344090
highly unlikely.

>>68343281
Selen seems to be looking forward to being an indie again. If anyone's going to try to make the jump to hololive it would probably be Pomu

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>>68344142
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>>68344213
cool

>>68344201
That means Suisei rrat too.

>>68344090
Nope >>68344247

>>68344201
Gods is a holofag
So most rrat only work on niji

>>68344247
So...
She only stand by and watch selen getting bullied
What a great friend

>>68344090
Pomu is the sweetest person ever and was way too good for this garbage corpo

>>68343679
What’s funny is that hololive does at least try to get the perms for random shit like that if a member really wants it, she truly was fucked from the start with niji

>>68342794
>>68342762
EN4
>Mumei - Selen
>Fauna - Shondo
>Bae - Miori
who does IRyS and Kronii get?

I guess it's time to unsub mumei then

>>68342762
Who is nepohire of Advent?

>>68344201
The final yab will be the Enna / Millie being the bullies rrat turning out to be true. Once exposed the entire branch will fall apart

>>68344510
me (twice)

>>68342304
Not gonna happen
Even Mori cant shove Milky into hololive
The same with Kiara

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>>68344466
what was she supposed to do? plant a bomb in nijihq?

>>68344495
Yeah it's weird seeing Korone, Kronii, and Gura playing some random retro game or horror kusoge

>>68344090
Here’s a plausible list of the clique and it’s members.

>>68344590
Sana...

>>68344510
Kronii was forced to use her leaf nepocard on the leaf twins. As a result Irys didnt get one

>>68343541
I unironically don't want her in holo, good luck to her but a spot shouldn't be wasted on a apex spammer that's not acceptable.

>>68344590
Did she even try?

>>68344615
Every time I see this it makes me wonder how elira could be the leader and pomu somehow had nothing to do with it or just completely ignored it.

>all the rats are real
That means Mumei and Selen are cuddling kissing RIGHT NOW

>>68343896
I like you jap sama but no please

>>68344299
I don't think Holo would hire any former nijis. They are too well known (as a Vtuber) to begin with and people already have expectation of who they should be.

>>68344741
Naaaaaa....

>>68344741
Don't look up Himemori Luna

>>68344510
Kronii gets her lesbian friends in, Yuria I think it was the name

>>68344700
All it start from that 4chan parody stream.
Can you believe that?

>>68344741
>Da Baby

>>68344466
shes not even in north america currently what did you expect her to do

>>68344466
Where in the tweet says she didn't do anything Nijitard

Did your cock master Riku teach you his Yatchpanese to understand wish I could do something more as doing nothing

>>68344741

>>68344741
That's doesn't stop Luna though.

>>68344776
Hey newfag
That was when cover still a small corp
And before making allias with niji

>>68343162
You forgot Aura

>>68344090
No, she left because they stink. Even though she's earning easy $$$ just by streaming, she still decided to leave

>>68344741
Do your Reps anon

>>68344859
that's wrong though, in fact back in gen 3 Hololive had much stronger ties with Nijisanji

I like Selen but I'd rather not have her join Hololive. Her joining would allow Holostars to get a foot in the door on doing collabs with everyone in EN, she's already friends with some of them like Axel and Altare. Selen is a rampant male collaber and tournament planner, she would end up planning mixed events and it would create pressure for others to join. That danger would be even greater for Mumei and everyone else close to her. No thanks, don't want that threat to start looming over everything. She'll be happier as an indie anyway.

>>68344741
I think they have some non-compete agreement between them that says they won’t attempt to hire any talents associated with the other company.

>>68344894
Literally no different than Bae who you can safely ignore if it's not your thing

>>68344894
This so much, I love Selen and I never minded her collabing with rpr,ipn etc. But that wouldn't sit right if she was in holo.

>>68343540
Mumei is too much of a pussy to go through all the necessary red tape to get off company collabs by herself

>>68344752
>>68344776
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>>68344823
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>>68344893
See >>68344859

>>68342259
my fucking oshi is a goddam furry

Selen is branded. she'll always be a nijiwhore

>>68341794
RRATGODS I KNEEL

>>68344860
Story of her career.

>>68342400
Hololiv does yes, which is why their gens are so spread apart.
As per Zaion's twitlonger, Nijissanji gives their livers generally about a week to two to get to know each other, then make a wave collab song. Noone in XSoleil even knew who the others were when they were forced to give their samples for their debut collab song.

>>68344803
Aww
Can't even bother to try asking for her jo senpai for help
Nice friend

>>68344812
>CLIQUE clearly bully across selen time in niji
Pomu suddenly stay quiet and hang out with the clique
Guess she was part of the clique

>>68344872
She left because she had enough of all this niji management shit. Probably the Selen thing was the final straw now you think back.

Harry the savior of Hololive ensured that Pomu doesn't get what she want in Niji

>>68344240
Shondo said it herself on stream, she got partway through the audition process and backed out.

>>68344894
we already went over this with Kronii and particularly Mori and nothing came out of it
It's very funny how terrified of men unicorns are lmao

>>68343541
>>68343593
You're completely ignoring that to join Holo she'd have to abandon her IP - which is currently soaring - *again*. And then hope that her fanbase survives another transplant in short timeframe.
You're also ignoring that at 250k subs and climbing she's in position to comfortably live without having to join *any* corpo. She's way out of "Holo ticket will make or break your career" numbers zone.

>>68345089
She was part of the clique
Stop pretending and coping that she a saint

>>68344894
>Does he knows about Towa?

>>68344985
If you had said "non-compete clause" it would have been believable. But being a known vtuber did not hold back Holo from hiring Gura, Kronii, Bae, the BauBaus or Shiori

>>68345142
Towa can sing

>>68344653
Kronii making reluctant choices and panning out well? My god she is a genius.

>>68345062
holy shit, can you type any less like a retard?

>>68344859
Goalpost: missing

>>68344247
There's something endearing that she's as much of an autist about JP idols as chuuba fans are with their oshi.

>>68345122
NTA but let's not pretend that holo isn't a free ride to an easy 400k+ subs right around your debut. That's almost double dokibird's current count
I'm under no impression that she plans to join hololive or any corpo. But it would be an easy win for her and the dragoons who care would find her

>>68345121
>and nothing came out of it
Anon it was a dumpsterfire for the better half of a year - and not just here.
This is one timeloop I'd rather not repeat, you little dramawhore.

>>68343070
dead narratives as in proven false?
or dead as in just grown old?

>>68344894
She's not going to join

>>68345019
As much as I'm sure you wish that was the case, it's not and also you're a fag

>>68345183
Asking a retard to type better difficulty level: IMPOSSIBLE

>>68344653
>>68345179
It was not her choice. She was forced to do it, losing her nepocard. As revenge she streamed over both of their birthdays

>>68345237
Hey retard look at this
>>68344495
>>68344608

>>68343137
This must be some sort of once in a millennia event we're witnessing. It's like the planets aligned to bring about the rratpocalypse that was talked about in some ancient prophecy, that day that all rrats become real.

>>68343896
is this real?

>>68345142
Towa literally manipulated her fans into accepting the male collabs.

>>68342304
>hey you know how nijisanji had cliques because they had a fuck load of nepo hires and in group vs out group
>yeah what if hololive also got that
>inb4 sana
That was a mistake and will never happen again, not least because her and ina were held to a higher standard to not exclusively collab and shut others out.
Mori has not gotten milky into hololive, Kiara has not gotten any of her friends, same with Watson, it is literally just ina.

Managers are actively looking for this to avoid because allowing people to get their friends hired leads to entitlement in the talents and cliques forming.

>>68345230
Considering one of those things is literally the doxschizo’s fanfiction, a bit of both. He likes taking a small piece of info, then making shit up about it.

>>68345217
I dont give a shit about /here/ drama, much less twitter or wherever the fuck.
There's no pressure for the other girls to join male collabs if they dont want to and there never was, that's all that matters.

>>68345201
Harry did hit the jackpot

>>68343853
Let me test this. my rrat is that Maria is preparing herself to become my wife

>>68345371
When did i type this

>>68345302
Yes but Jap removed the repost. Which means he's /here/

>>68345302
Yeah. It was linked in the sticky. You can visit his linkedin and find it

>>68344690
Milky is too attached to her model, if she wanted to join Mori would of got her into council same way Ina got Sana.

>>68341794
So basically what we learned is that Holomems care more about Nijis more than Nijis cared for their own?

Seriously? That's how bad Niji is?

>>68343949
Enna acted like she was having her teeth pulled the whole time she was on stream. It was a major collab project of Selen's and she acted like having to be there was a cruel punishment, this was way beyond Enna's usual bitchy gimmick antics and was genuinely uncomfortable to watch.

>>68345328
There was A LOT of pressure on the talents whether to collab or not.
It ended with omega gone and Vespers/Magni finally put it to rest for the forseeable future.
If you're the kind of fan Selen brings over to any company she might apply for, then it better not be Hololive. Your kind is insufferable and braindead, why else did you support that company for so long, if not because you are an utter retard?

>>68345316
>not knowing Biboo is Kiara's nepohire
Looks like somebody failed to do his reps today

>>68345393
He has always been /here/. Deleted repost, CGDCT, leaking himself, etc.

>>68345432
Take your meds retard

>>68345277
Kronii is a walking comedian understood.

>>68345463
Don't get mad just because you're out of the loop

>>68345432
Biboo was actually my nepohire

>>68345121
Kronii and Mori don't get joy out of planning big tournaments that require large numbers of participants. The biggest they'll go is a four player Mario party game. Selen likes big events like the Apex tournament she planned with Altare a couple of months ago that was advertised as a mixed event that included HoloEN, but fortunately did not. One of her complaints about Nijisanji management in the past was that they didn't let her do more of these things. If she joins Hololive, she'll want to continue these sorts of activities and she'll have greater influence in actually getting some EN members to join.

>>68345393
Judging from the number of /here/ tubers he manage, he got to keep himself informed of the latest rrats as the good manager he is
> he posted all the insider rrats

>>68345481
>t. Made it the fuck up
Like I said, meds, now

>>68345205
You're not wrong, but number of subs has to have diminishing returns. Going from 10k to 50k or from 50k to 250k has to be pretty impactful. From 250k to 400k? Maybe not so more from practical perspective, feels like we're entering ego stroking territory here.
There's also two other factors to consider:
- from purely cynical money perspective each indie sub is "worth" more simply because you're not paying a cut from anything theyight send your way
- Doki's number is still climbing, the fallout is still in early days. Selen had around 800k. Even accounting for dead subs and Niji worshippers it's not out of realm of possibility she'll settle somewhere in the 300-400k range even as indie

>>68345142
Towa doesn't drag holos in her shit, she even criticized the management for HLZTL project which did something similar.
She knows Hololive very well, her numbers for fps are shit she does it because she likes it, that's not her main content it's her music and the Hololive related things.

>>68345316
I mean Ame's other friend is already in Hololive as a genmate

Is there a single rrat about this whole saga that hasn't turned up to be true. lol

>>68345427
I dont even watch Selen, retard. I only watch hololive and have no interest at all in watching males.
I just find funny how frightened you are by the idea.

>>68345504
>If she joins Hololive, she'll want to continue these sorts of activities
Or like Shiori she'll understand that intergender collabs are unwelcome in EN and not do them.

>>68345572
The only one left is that Mumei's 1 million wish is for doki to join hololive. I'll believe anything at this point

>>68345584
Ok cool.
You still have to get a grip and see the bigger picture.

Literally the only two positive things about joining any corpo for a vtuber are
1 - Get an instant following via being associated with a big known brand
2 - Easy collabs since you're in the same corpo as bunch of other vtubers
There is honestly no other benefit.
Selen doesn't require any help with either of these things at this point in her career, signing up with literally any corpo now would do nothing but constrain her and bring no benefit at all.
She's honestly better being an indie, any sort of help she might need, legal or otherwise, can just be hired.

>>68345537
If she can do it, why can't selen

You know she will have a capable manager under Holo right?

Don't use your Niji knowledge here Nijisis

>>68345489
fuck off Mori

>>68345432
Forgot to take med again?

>>68342919
/wg/, get to it

I just remembered that one Enna story she told about being a bully in either elementary or middle school, the rrats are all coming together.

>>68345063
>As per Zaion's twitlonger, Nijissanji gives their livers generally about a week to two to get to know each other, then make a wave collab song.
What?
In Hololive they get the girls together for 6 months. Six fucking months and they actually get to live together. During those months they get training on what to follow and everything else needed, like collab songs, etc.

Niji only takes 1-2 weeks? They are crazy.

Mumei's 1 million wish required
>time
>cooperation from different groups
What could it be?

>>68345611
Really? You don't see the 3d lives and opportunities to be on stage with expensive tech performing to sold out stadiums as a benefit?

>>68345599
I would start anti-ing Mumei

>>68344090
We don't know for sure but I really doubt it.

>>68345611
>There is honestly no other benefit
I know you vshojofags are retards but it seems you people don't know how much of a difference good management can make.

>>68345427
>There was A LOT of pressure on the talents whether to collab or not.
Maybe if you hung around /here/ all day.

>>68345654
>Hire homo collabber after Vesper shit show
It means nothing, EN3 already proved that they dont want homoshitshow to happen again

>>68345663
It's only a benefit if that is your goal, or part of your goal. If you're not interested in any of those things then it's just a lot of work for something you don't care about.
Selen doesn't seem like the type to be honest.

>>68345731
in what universe is the person you responding to a vshojofag?

>>68344985
People are always desperate to post this "gotcha", as if the situation between the companies is remotely the same as it was in 2019. Nijisanji have shed plenty of talents since then and unsurprisingly none of them have shown up in Hololive.

>>68345679
It's actually insane that people want Selen to join hololive...

>>68343949
>>68343365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixGLWafROTc
You can check Enna's opening part too, this one is after the match. It's Selen's big event and Enna's character fucking won the tournament. Selen will even ship her the physical championship belt she commissioned... but just look at her reaction. It's like she's really reluctant to be there and doesn't care that she won at all.

>>68342130
she's not gonna fuck you, anon

>>68345599
Pretty sure Mumei said she knew what her wish was going to be way before any of this happened.

Nepohire or not, nothing's happening any soon in my opinion. The stove's still hot, and with the amount of drama that the situation brought, Hololive will probably play it safe and wait at least a couple of months to even consider the possibility of a new generation.
Waiting for EN4 while Advent is still young is absolutely retarded.

>>68345663
Pre-recorded once-in-a-year shit yawn
Indies do more 3D stuff, and genuine interactive ones at that, than corpos nowadays

>>68345593
It's funny how he's memoryholing the whole furore over Selen 'baiting' everyone with holoEN involvement and how Mumei would OBVIOUSLY be unable to say no to her friend
>Huh? Of courseee I have holoEN in the tournament. The holostarsss are holoEN, right???
Like, come on. Obviously she knew. If you buy she was deliberately doing that, it directly implies that she knows exactly when not to shove people together.

>>68345795
This one.

Do people really believe Selen gonna do idol rep????
She would have an easier life and more time being indy and play games all day

>>68345746
>if you hung around /here/ all day.
Or on reddit
Or on youtube
Or in the EN discord
Have you already forgotten the cursed myth collab?
The air was straight up radioactive around that time.
Are you even arguing in good faith or playing everything down for funsies?

>>68345642
I don't think they actually live together for 6 months, that would be silly but probably daily discord meetings

>>68345731
>any sort of help she might need, legal or otherwise, can just be hired.
Just as it was mentioned before, you don't need to be part of some huge corporation to have a manager or legal consultant, you can simply hire somebody for that role.
Considering the fact that an indie vtuber doesn't have to split her profit with anybody else that shouldn't be a problem.

>>68345864
All of this was by
HER
design

>>68345888
And what metric exactly are you using to determine that someone who is staunchly being anti corpo would like vshojo?

>>68345889
But ain't that the beauty of the idol journey?

>>68341794
Rratman, I kneel.

>>68345850
It's obvious beggars, wll never happen, holo would be retarded to get into this drama.

>>68345944
The fact that you got defensive

>>68345611
Yep, she'll either be an indie or go to Vshojo where she can own her persona, no reason to deal with Japanese corpo bullshit anymore. Same with Pomu.

>>68345868
Luna had about 6 months before she joined so it would ne about the same for any ex talents looking to get hired on

>>68345679
>>68345850
Why? Nonschizo answers only pls.

>>68345896
>The air was straight up radioactive around that time.
Again, that's if you're brainrotted by rrats from /here/. Do you still believe in the HoloEN civil war between the homocollabers vs the CGDCTers?

>>68346017
>you
my post was a new IP you brainless zombie. why would a post explicitly saying selen shouldn't join ANYTHING be pro vshojo? You dumb chimp.

>>68341750
>>68341914
>>68341999
>mooms after the fact

>>68346056
Only worth joining a corpo if you're a 2view.

>>68346041
2019 was 40 years ago.

>>68346094
Thanks.

>>68345615
The jp seine is a lot bigger then en, don't kid yourself en can't do the shit Jp does, and a holo organising tournaments with vshitshow, twitch whores and small corpos makes me vomit, just no.
And if she is just going to integrate in JP fps box I don't see the point of wasting a spot on her. HoloJP has 40 members some of them can afford to do whatever the fuck they want and not cater to the wider Hololive audiance, EN dosent have that luxury it still needs 2 more gens before it stabalizes.

>>68345949
Yeah it will be totally ugly, just like Sana, Vesper and Magni
They got out because they dont want to do idol rep

>>68346094
>going from 200 viewers to 8000 is a waste of time

>>68346083
So crippleschizo was Bad Future Mumei all along?

>>68346169
>ESL paragraph
kek

Mumeisanji... disgrace. Get her out of hololive

>>68346056
Mainly it would torpedo anything left of Anykara-Cover relations. You might take a graduated talent but taking a terminated one is as good as saying you think the other side are fucking retards and would inflame fanbase wars. Not in the stupid internal way but in the 'you're either a Niji fan or a Holo fan, no more fence sitters'. That's bad for business. There are also still JP relations that Cover cannot carelessly cut off. It's difficult to see how one talent justifies all that. Even if you were getting a talent as big as Kizuna Ai it would still be difficult.

>>68345593
Or she will keep giving zero fucks to the unicorns, after all they are not her target audiance

>>68344894
She was terminated, not graduated. She will be blacklisted anyway

>>68346065
>>68346065
>Do you still believe in the HoloEN civil war between the homocollabers vs the CGDCTers?

That's absurd. The talents AND managements disagreements about the future direction of the EN branch ran way deeper than just that.

>>68341794
I wrote this rrat, because it was revealed to me in a dream. Dogeza non-believers.

>>68346083
Retard mumei is the one bouncing on selen dragon dick not the other way around

>>68346200
If you already have some sort of following then all you're doing by signing up to a corpo is being lazy.
You're literally letting someone take half(best case scenario) of your money just so you could put less effort into growing on your own.
The hardest part about being an indie is distinguishing yourself from a sea of retards trying to do the same thing as you. Once you're past that hurdle you're already ahead of 99% of people in the sphere.

>>68346333
>Mainly it would torpedo anything left of Anykara-Cover relations
Anykara connection is pretty much useless these days so no loss there

>>68344247
Wow didn't know about this account

>>68346350
ogey keep believing what you want to believe

>>68346333
>taking a terminated one is as good as saying you think the other side are fucking retards
I think that's an apt description of whoever let this happen.

>>68346400
if it was a retarded corpo like nijisanji yeah
but hololive can get you much more despite being somewhat sucessful before like with gura

>>68346404
NTA but they have a cooperation agreement already

You faggots are talking about some worthless drama while Haachama is doing a bathing stream.

>>68346547
NTA, but firing a talent on leave for a suicide attempt due to workplace harassment is enough reason for them to reconsider the relationship.

>>68346404
Even if that's the kneejerk reaction, if you're in Cover's shoes you want to salvage as much as you can and reduce shock. You have things like Toko-Suisei and Haachama/Matsuri-Hoshikawa to think about. You might have future joint collabs in the works that you now need to plan around. You need to see if maybe NijiJP is about to cut off EN like a gangrenous limb, so you don't have to hastily burn all your bridges and can just pretend everything doesn't concern you.

>>68345142
The whore that literally said she loved niji too much that she joined holo instead to not lose that magic? What about her?

>>68346547
>NTA but they have a cooperation agreement already
The statement back in 2022? the one where gwelu broke days after it got announced
as i said anycolor useless and even konami now thinks so since they removed the nijinsanji only licesnse for their koshien event

>>68343365

>>68345302
>See photo
>See https://vtubernewsdrop.com actually exists
>See this post
>See this poster being a fucking retard

>>68345773
Vesper literally did nothing except sperg out in japan because he's a retard and decided not to bring his meds but you autistic faggots still think he's some kind of sex pest prime. You people have always been fucking insane and spinning unsubstantiated rrats. You believe anything that fits your own narrative like the retards defending niji like all those japs applauding them shit canning selen. This board was a mistake, allowing legitimate brain rot to fester in broken retards.

>>68346655
kek im glad that the rpr discord larp i made is making rounds

>>68346654
And they almost fired gwelu for it, he was crying about it in his rm. he got the one month suspension instead.

>>68346683
The difference is that Vesper's graduation only had positive consequences for eeryone.

>>68346655
>bussy gyaru god
FUCKING KEK

>>68346462
In Gura's case, in my own personal opinion, it was the fact that she was simply socially retarded, and didn't have the ability to network properly, which is one of the most important things when it comes to growing bigger - making connections.
Selen doesn't have that issue.
Basically, as long as you're not lazy or socially incompetent you can grow your own brand without having to rely on some big name corpo if you're at least a 3view.
Gura also wanted to "be like Miku" and perform on stage, which I don't think is one of Selen's goals.

>>68346683
kek people still love to peddle the rrat that Vesper and Magni were terminated when they're in the Alumni section while Mel isn't

>>68346718
>And they almost fired gwelu for it, he was crying about it in his rm
he was sperging on his rm about getting shafted with sponsorship and collab opportunities over other livers which he ranted in 2022 and ranted again in 2023 with the whole "i quit my side job to focus on niji and my family supports my decision" arc

>>68345089
QRD on this Harry guy?

>>68341794
>>68342718
Because this board is filled with mindbroken braindead tribalniggers. Remember to never join them. Holo is better sure but don't completely shut off your mind.
Anyone with a working brain knew these two were friends and Mumei's break had high chance of being related to helping Selen recover

>>68346683
>still think he's some kind of sex pest prime.
he literally admitted on stream that he used to get harassment and sexual harassment complaints from his co-workers in his office job way before hololive due to how much of a social retard he is
it wouldnt be much of a surprise that he got a sexual harassment complaint while in holo that resulted in his suspension for something he did or said which he didnt think was harassment

>>68345642
Yeah, and NijiEN were debuting waves every three to four months. There is no time for the livers to spend 6 months getting to know each other with a turnover that fast.

>>68341794
ALL THE RRATS ARE REAL. RRATGODS & RRAT MASTERS HAVE WON

>>68343443
That's really fucking cute, asshole. Now I'll have to sign in and save it in my playlist.

>>68346953
>He's part of the reason why the stereotypes about "IT guys" exist.
He deserved to graduate.

>>68346348
Dimitri Jap begs to differ anon.

>>68346953
This is an example of why I liked watching Vesper but I can't stand Randon. The corpo filter was actually good for him.

>>68346056
As has been said 1000 times, nepo hires at vtubing companies makes cliques and that's the entire issue.
The entire thing that causes this whole situation is nepo hires and cliques bullying non clique members because previous friendships mattered more than genmates or collab partners

Adding that into the mix at hololive is nothing but trouble.

>>68345599
What if Mumei orchestrated the entire bullying clique just to get her friend to join her?

>>68347159
Not a fan of WoW or Warhammer?

>>68347202
I watched his streams as zatsu bgm anyways, but some of the stuff he shares/talks about now turned me off from him. Just doesn't feel the same.

>>68342718
>one of the few
Is there a rrat about this whole shitshow that DIDN'T turn out to be true? Even the apostropheschizo got vindicated in the end.

>>68347194
>nepo hires at vtubing companies makes cliques and that's the entire issue
No. The main issue is management not being competent. Hololive until 3rd gen was essentially nepohires galore but you never saw any issues beause:
a) Hololive picks mentally ill women
b) Management is super proper and hardass + willing to adapt and improve (Coco Taiwan incident)

>>68347194
Sana was literally a nepohire and she collabed with Ina like 3-4 times in total

>>68346953
wow
he is retarded
you could maybe get away with that joke with friends (still depends on the person/people) but it's absolutely retarded to say something like that to a coworker during a meeting

>>68347321
I mean one of the few rrats posted here that was right not one of the few rrats about this specific situation

>>68347371
Sana also spent a fourth of the one year she was active in traction because she broke her back.

>>68346953
I'm not going to hate the guy because offices have been hiring women to pad out their ESG scores and Pikachu face when they don't separate the two genders. He also comes from an older office work environment. He was definitely filtered during his time in holoSTARS though. Magni on the other hand(s).

Selen's REAL friends picrel

>>68341687
>>68341794

>>68347662
This but only the two on the left

>>68344615
Enna just wanted to be the most subbed EN female and harness more power. For that, Selen and Pomu needed to be out the door. It's very simple how it could have started

>>68344901
This is as retarded as the cope that was popular while GoT was airing that the reason Gurm wasn't writing anything was some mysterious non-compete contract between him and HBO that prevented him from releasing anything until the show was done.

>>68347613
>I'm not going to hate the guy because offices have been hiring women to pad out their ESG scores and Pikachu face when they don't separate the two genders
problem is that this has nothing to do with ESG scores or genderless bathrooms but with him being a social retard who thinks that shaming a coworker of something very embarrassing they accidentally did is funny without reading the room
guy basically has non existent social cue reading.

>>68347257
That's fair. I've been playing MMOs for decades, so his streams are like chilling in vent with the guildies.

>>68347842
you sound even more clueless of social cues than he is
he didn't shame her in that example, he acted like a fetish weirdo

>>68347935
>suddenly shouting chair seasoning instead of just keeping quiet
>not shaming her
guy is a social retard with 0 understanding of social cues
this is the same guy who thought it was ok to drop everything in a moments notice and then go biking for weeks leaving his co-workers to pick up the mess

>>68344894
you should kill yourself, but do it properly unlike her

>>68342309
>>68342667
>>68343472
I know you fags don't watch Mumei.
So FYI: It's her favorite "so The-Room-tier bad it's god-tier good" film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPdpFx-0NM

>>68348013
He's just like me

>>68348013
>acting like an idiot is shaming someone else
keep trying you'll crack the code eventually

>>68343540
Not Niji but close enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXDwfJXESPg&pp=ygUJaW5hIGhlbnlh

>>68348130
>he thinks idiots cant shame somebody else
what you think being an idiot is a victimless crime?

>>68348148
Henya wasn't terminated.
She left on her own

>>68348178
Yes. Otherwise, you wouldn't be allowed to post.

>>68348234
Yes, after being cancelled on Twitter
As I said: Close enough