/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68295801
No it will too late for me but I'll watch the vod.

>>68295801
Of course

>>68295801
Yes, I will.

sure, why not.

>>68295801
yea

>>68295801
Yes.
I want to be there when she namedrops everyone who needs to be eliminated.

>>68295801
Yeah.

>>68295801
Lmao no, I didn’t watch her before, why would I start now?

>>68295801
I'm going to get really drunk early so I can pass out and wake up hungover at 1AM to watch it yeah.

>>68295801
I'll definitely check in. But my oshii is streaming then so I'll have to watch the VOD

>>68295801
maybe, her model isn't interesting enough for me to be invested long term I think

>>68295801
ask again in two days

Yes, because she said she will drop the names of the bullies

>>68295801
>chink this, chink that
uh not really

Maybe, depends on what else is going on at the time.

>>68296401
She won't. She'll bitch out and say something along the lines of "let's not talk about the past and move on".

>>68296602
that is not what going to happen
she will go down with violence
she was already on the verge of death she fears nothing

It really was her last cup...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L88r98G4YiM

>>68295801
If biboo not streaming then yes

>>68297094
biboo isn't streaming till at the earliest Friday

She's not a Niji anymore so yes, i give her a sub, imagine giving a view to Kurosaji

>>68295801
Of course, I'm all in for some drama

>>68295801
Sure, she's a friend of my oshi so I gotta support her.

>>68296602
Selen was already unhinged when she was stuck in Nijisanji, and coming back from a suicide attempt and seeing people offering her support and wanting to know who was responsible is going to empower her even more to call them out. She has nothing to lose.

>>68295801
I'll be there.

>>68297272
she has potential offers and collabs to lose, it burns bridges even worse than the current events, i honestly don't think it's worth it to air the baggae and name actual names.

A bit over a month ago, she tried to take her own life. Assuming it's true, I don't think she's in a state of mind to start up her activities this soon. It's good that she has fan support but is she even mentally stable enough to not make another attempt? Different people cope with attempted suicide in different ways, hard to know if she is still manic or not from it.

If people had turned against her today (technically the JP side appears to have), is she able to tank that right now? The entire experience of surviving an attempt isn't just some 5 week break, a termination and then a few days later to proceed with streaming in front of thousands again.

Isn't this insane?!

>>68297518
i guess she just wanna open her emotional floodgate by talking to the ppl who care for her
since making a tweet isnt good enough

>>68297518
You sound nervous.
Elira? Millie? Enna?
Maybe one of the other suspects like Rosemi or Uki? Or maybe you're Kyo. Don't worry, you're off the hook since you got out just in time.

>>68295801
She better spill the beans… one last yab towards Niji.

>>68297518
woman suicide attempts aren't real. a nice stream will be good for her.

of course

>>68295801
if gura isn't streaming, yeah.

i wonder what Mumei thinks of all of this.

>>68295801
Yes

>>68295801
Of course! I hope she cries, woman tears get me hard.

>>68297518
maybe if we're lucky she'll try again while streaming

>>68295801
absolutely

>>68298018
Okay calm down Vince, before you poop on someone's head again.

>>68295801
I will be there no matter what.

>>68295801
>from dragoon to chicken
I don’t know how to cope with this… but I’ll support her no matter what.

>>68298525
Honestly, she should have spent the last month planning for this eventuality and thought about a branding reset. Dokibird is kind of lame.

>>68295801
yeah out of curiosity to see if she'll go in details about the bullying she received

>>68297457
Niji was so incompetent and petty they drove one of their strongest EN talents to termination. There's nothing to lose the company would never approve collabing with her. Meanwhile the company already fought tooth and nail against her external projects like the host job iin january EA had to scramble to get a new host. Without niji in the way it's only improved.

>>68295801
I just hope she actually moves on instead of becoming Zaion 2.0 and making the termination thing become her whole personality.

>>68295801
Absolutely, my reminder is set and my schedule is free.

>>68297694
>>>68297518 (You)
We've been found out again! How did you know!? We are having an offline emergency orgy/meeting trying to make targeted comments specifically on /vt/ to prevent her from streaming!
We were almost successful if not for your vigilance!
In all honesty, did my initial comment really sound that pro Niji/Anti-Selen?

>>68295801
Absolutely. Selen and Pomu were the only NijiENs i watched

>>68295801
>2AM
Sure, I can give her 1 hour and some of my money.

>>68295801
I don't like pro china people but since she hid it well enough i'll probably drop in if i remember

>>68299949
she speaks cantonese and if anything that points to her being child of hong kong expats, and if there's anything i know about them, they hate mainlanders.

I don't even watch Niji, or any of their livers. I watch shit like Pippa, but for this, I will be in chat, and I hope to god it gets spicy so we can watch this anime woman rip on a corpo like never before!

>>68296980
https://twitter.com/HexHaywire/status/1754652121503608993?s=19

>>68295801
I'll check it out just to watch the car crash, then remember I how much I hate her and my sympathy will evaporate in like 5 minutes as soon as she starts her obnoxious hyena cackling, then I'll probably never watch her again if I'm lucky.

>>68295801
I didn't really care for Selen, Apex is a hard filter for me and shitposters here made me tune her out.
But fuck, I'll at least give her a subscribe and a watch, and I hope she has a solid career after that shitshow. She's got my tourist ass interested.

>>68296980
You fags said Zaion would do the same thing.

She's going to be at least ~250k subscribers by Wednesday's stream if not 300k.

The community note is back

>>68295801
No. Just because she got the boot doesn't mean I'll suddenly start caring about her.

I hope to god she tears into niji and exposes the livers who bullied her, or management, maybe names. They caused someone to try to slit their fucking wrists. Let's see how they like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

>>68297850
>you now know why Mumei has been absent all this time.
It was to help Selen/Doki.

>>68300758
Mumei and Selen barely know each other.

>>68297518
I knew it was only a matter of time when the NDF switched to "concern troll" mode.

>>68295801
If I rush home after work... Sure

>>68300684
Yeah, too bad Selen consulted a lawyer. She won't name names. I wish I can see your face when you inevitably get blueballed.

>>68296602
This, dramafags will be left wanting

>>68301238
I hope she does it anyway as a fuck you.
She has peoples support no matter how high they sue her for.

>>68301238
>>68301426
If she wants a future, even as an indy, it's better for her if she doesn't. Just use the limelight to establish your new channel, rebuild, and go on. Any chance there might be of future collabs with say holo, or even corpo offers, those bridges would be burned completely if she aired all the dirty laundry.

>>68295801
No I will wait for a catalog fag to give me incorrect information so I can use it to shitpost even further.

>>68295801
No. I will be watching whatever HoloEN member is streaming at that time. Hopefully IRyS or Gura as they are my favorite.

>>68301612
>Only barely got zeta and mumei at the very last second
There's nothing left to lose.

>>68295801
i will, yes.

>>68295801
Bro she's going to go full scorch earth on their ass, all of the artists she's ever worked with are breaking NDA to shit on Anycolor and her friends clearly did this whereselen shit to fan the flames preparing for this

>>68297518
People who want to die don't attempt, they succeed

>>68301612
Indie here, and you don't know what you're talking about. Every fucking indie I know about is shit talking Anycolor and supporting her

>>68295801
Maybe to see what the fuss is all about. Thousands or tens of thousands tuned in for those guys a while back and then that ex-niji neonazi. None of them stay though, all their viewer and sub numbers tanked in the months since.

why would I watch a fat zhang that only plays shitty FPS while laughing obnoxiously?

>>68301612
Yep, not even speaking of potential legal issues or financial penalties outlined in an NDA she undoubtedly signed, this would be a bad move for her future prospects. Niji has been pretty vicious in trying to paint her and others as the sole wrongdoers, but it's mostly backfiring - she could probably get into another corp gig that isn't a fucking nightmare if she doesn't burn the bridge as hard as she can.
Hard to really say how it would affect her potential future as an indie, it could give her a boost in the short term but being known only for the explosive drama of your contract exploding probably isn't a healthy audience to cultivate.

>>68295801
I've never liked Niji, always thought Selen's design was awful and her laugh was annoying. That said, I'll tune in

>>68295801
Yes
It's what she would want

>>68301961
Technically Niji's fault. Niji didn't pay them which makes Selen their contractor. They had to follow the money haha. Sucks to suck

>>68302385
Which? Cover wont let her do half the stuff she wants to do. She's going to get dragged into idolshit she's uncomfortable with. Phase is a dumpster. Vshojo is going to also drag her into a bunch of shit she doesn't want to do. Indie is the best spot for her.
People will support her as she finds her footing again. She'll get jobs as a host and announcer she'll get to organize all the tourneys she wants. Her career is about to go into overdrive with no dead weight holding her down.

>>68299727
>In all honesty, did my initial comment really sound that pro Niji/Anti-Selen?
no that guy is just a schizo

>>68302814
That's probably fair, I'm a complete fuckin tourist so I don't know her shit beyond laughing a lot and enjoying Apex. Indie may well be the right place for her to be, and while I'd normally say that can be a hard place to be when you're successful due to having to manage all your connections and events solo, it seems like she was already pretty much doing that anyways with Niji's management being the shitshow it is.
Still though,
>organize all the tourneys she wants
would definitely be hampered by blowing up her previous company too hard. Would lead potential people she'd network/organize events with/for to be iffy on buying in due to her appearing volatile towards corporate types. People are already on her side here, feeding into the fire to be vindictive just doesn't seem productive for future endeavors, even if Niji deserves to be torn to shreds.

>>68295801
Her model is so cute

>>68295801
Why are chinese allowed to LARP as blonde aryans?

>>68303289
Cover already didn't work with them and Niji sought with Selen tooth and nail so once again there's nothing there to lose.

>>68302814
>Vshojo is going to also drag her into a bunch of shit she doesn't want to do.
Haha yeah, like all the shit they drag Hime into doing that she doesn't want to.. Wait.

>>68300854
stupid newfag

>>68300854
>He doesn't know

>>68303501
You are thinking way too exclusively to Niji. By going nuclear on them, she would be showing that she will go nuclear on anyone who wrongs her. And for corporate interests, they would be very likely to consider that maybe those slights were perceived, and that she'll air dirty laundry on anyone she works with over little to nothing.
Not everyone will look into it and forgive the whistleblower, in fact, most won't.

>>68303659
>>68303746
>haha we thought we were going to be in the same company, but then we didn't talk to each other for over a year until this collab

>>68303774
It's okay Millie. If you did nothing wrong you have nothing to fear from Discovery in court. Oh wait~

>>68302134
why do you sound fat?

>>68295801
I'll tune in for old times' sake. I unsubbed from Selen a long time ago, but I used to enjoy her Apex streams and her collab dynamics. She really had vtuber energy. Nijisanji did my girl wrong.

>>68300854
Go back, don't even do your reps poser
I hope your oshi ghosts and never comes back online

>>68303822
Clip GOD

I just want her to know that she's great and people love her like your (that's all of you) oshi loves you. I'm happy she's alive and that people are still cheering for her. I hope she prospers. I hope she's well. Not because I have any particular bond to her, not as much as some others here at least, but more than anything because she deserves it.

>>68299727
>offline emergency orgy
my sides. Fucking hell this place is awful as ever, but doesn't stop anons like you from being funny.

>>68297518
>HUR DUR IT'S NOT LIKE I'M THE MOST OBVIOUS ASTROTURFING RETARD IN THE WORLD OR ANYTHING
Maybe (You) should show her how to do it properly

>>68303822
Nice self-report, tourist

>>68303774
death to corpos

>>68303468
>Why are chinese allowed to LARP as blonde aryans?
For the same reason Japanese and Indonesians are. Do you know what a fucking vtuber is anon?

>>68304508
She knows. Show up to the stream on wednesday and remind her.

>>68295801
I don't watch indies

>>68295801
why is she ripping off Kiara's fan mascot?

>>68303822
based super retard

>>68295801
I cam make it on the 7th

>>68295801
No. I don't like Chinese new years.

>>68305280
>t. Vietnamese

>>68297154
Pretty much this.

>>68303892
I was not kidding about being a tourist, so I had to look that up, is she one of the potential bullies? Speaking of discovery though, it's gotta be a fuckin quagmire to pursue action about unlawful termination/harassment for a foreign company, and especially when a lot/the majority of communication is over channels like Discord/Twitter, with both sides' accounts owned and operated by the defending party. Seems like a really easy situation to get bogged down in technicalities/waiting games, while the evidence disappears, unless Selen thought real fuckin far ahead and archived all communications on her end.

>>68304822
Anycolor probably deserves to go down, but corps have a lot of power in entertainers' lives. They make their living streaming shit owned by corps, and thus need to play some level of ball.

>>68303774
And nothing of value would be lost

>>68295801
Probably? It's been ages since I watched her but eh I can come back to vtubers for her

>>68299949
>pro china
She identifies as cantonese and lived in hong kong when she was a small child, she even says "lunar new year" instead of "chinese" new year. She literally avoids associating with ch*na anytime she talks about it.

>>68295801
Absolutely.

>>68295801
I thought she was going to redebut in Vshojo or something.
You know, with a new model and all.
This old pre-Niji model ain't it.

>>68305514
Yeah. Niji is entangled with canadian law due to its employees working there. She doesn't have to clap niji so much as just get Niji thrown out of Canada for a laundry list of violations which would flatline half of EN's breadwinners.

>>68300341
Looking at the replies and quote tweets I'm reminded why my use of twitter is confined to just reading updates from my oshi and her ramblings on her alt - and avoiding any replies or quote tweets. The man quotes a well known and often used bible verse and 'people' are treating him like some deep fucking philosopher.

Jesus

>>68295801
For the juicy menhera traumadump

>>68305514
>They make their living streaming shit owned by corps, and thus need to play some level of ball.
See that's where you're wrong, Fucko. Numerous gens had to self-fund their debut all out of pocket. Self-fund birthdays out of pocket. Self-fund projects out of pocket. Self-fund assets, VR, chibis, skins. Management frequently didn't get perms for games and projects. Niji management even ghosted the talents often for months at a time

>>68305844
She was just starved for a month and a half then got blindsided by a termination notice she found out about when it went out on twitter dawg be patient.

>>68302114
Dunno, I offed myself a few years ago but somehow came back after they had given up on me and were going to take me to farm my organs.
Kinda glad I didn't return mid organ removal.

>>68295801
is this the part where everyone's going to pretend that they even gave a shit about selen?
she hasnt been relevant since 2021

>>68306636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8-Yn48xy9w

>>68295801
Not really a fan of Selen, but I'll 100% be there

>>68306025
Now that's an idea I can get behind. I hope she did archive the shit out of all communication, from what I've read just today if half this shit can be substantiated it should pretty easily meet the bar.

>>68306371
EA is a corp. If she wanted to do, say, an Apex tournament, she'd have to get permissions on her own from EA, as well as permission for participants. If half the people she'd want can't participate because their corpo overlords consider her a risk to associate with, or EA just pulls the plug to begin with, she's kind of losing out by being seen as volatile. I am not defending Niji, or Cover, or whoever the fuck, just trying to say that fire you start from burning a bridge can spread a little farther than just that one bridge, and that I hope she can be judicious in her telling for her own sake.

>>68295801
I'm not even a niji/selen watcher but I'm definitely tuning in just because of muh happening

>>68305844
She is almost certainly going to start putting money towards an updated model with possibly a new look asap. Wouldn't be surprised if that model's eventual debut takes place in VShojo, but her departure from Niji was completely not planned so she's getting startred asap before moving on.

>>68307001
Niji fucked over EA who was going to have Selen host an event in Jan. EA and many companies reached out to Selen offering perms and coordination directly because kusosanji's shitcunt managers were worthless and were holding things up because they can't fucking handle something as simple as faxing and e-mails. I cannot stress enough that things have only gotten better for literally everyone but Nijisanji.

>>68307066
you could just say youre a dramatourist anon

>>68297457
Not unless she has no intention to collab with said individuals. But generally, I see what you're saying.

>>68307327
lol alright replace my example of EA for any other corp, or just the idea of collaborating with any vshojo/holo/whoever non indie in the future. I mostly say this as someone who works for a game studio and knows how risk averse we can be when working with content creators, not as someone super deep into Vtuber corps.
I am slowly discovering across the day as a tourist the extent to which none of this was apparently a secret and everyone already fucking loathes anycolor, potentially including other corps. Hard to divorce that from the talents themselves retaining popularity though.

>>68307412
They already posted the fwmc image to announce it

>>68296401
according to the statement by Niji she has legal counsel
I don't think they would advise naming individuals since I doubt she has nearly enough money to afford doing so

i just want Selen to thrive and hopefully get a new character design/introduction on her own or with a new corpo

>>68307848
Between Selen and Niiji, Selen is the one with the larger draw. The corps she did projects and collaborations with weren't working with others in Niji. They were there for Selen. Not only were they were for Selen but Selen often initiated and did all the legwork for it from which Niji reaped all the rewards. As they got tired of Kusosanji fucking everything up all the god damned time they did theything they could to route around Niji to work with Selen directly so things could actually get approved and done in time for whatever it is.
Even now Selen and the other Livers don't have their play button from Youtube. Riku is still holding them on his Yacht while the company burns down.

>>68308113
She could have ripped the server, had them look at it, then they took it pro-bono due to being a slam dunk case. Unlikely but possible.
Zaion's nuclear football is always in play even if Selen didn't rip it to have proof of the harassment before she got locked out.

>>68300758
>>68300854
Mumei didn’t give a shit about Bae and she sure as fuck isn’t selfless enough to give a shit about someone she ghosted for a year.

>>68308235
>Holding them on his yacht
It's disgusting how you talk about this shit without knowing anything about it. Do your reps: The yacht is MADE of the buttons.

>>68307327
I'm surprised after that sort of shit EA didn't just pull the plug on their perms. Fucking over another corp over doesn't look good.
That said they probably worded it that Selen declined participation instead and put the blame on her, like usual.

>>68295801
I'll start watching her now that she isn't adherent to that dogshit company. I just hope she doesn't do what every other recently fire/graduated talent does and immediately get poached by Vshojo

>>68308235
We have straight dumped content creators and will never work with them again because they breached NDA for someone else, not even us. Just being seen as a risk means you lose some opportunities. Probably not to the point that you can't stream the game or whatever, but potentially losing sponsorship type support to put big events together.
Also not arguing that anycolor's yacht deserves to sink to the bottom of the sea by all means, but it's hard to encourage someone to potentially martyr themselves just to hurt a company whose reputation is already in the dirt. Better to take the legal route and try to fuck them out of English speaking countries entirely.

>>68295801
Nah. The stream is dead on arrival. The last time a big VTuber got fired and redebuted their indie channel they got 2 million subs, going on 3 million. This is just hyping up someone that's mid because of the salty drama.

>>68309411
which vtuber was that

>>68308858
Good for you senpai, sadly for you, you're not them. And this wasn't even an NDA breach. It was management not doing their job for over a year and a half, not paying artists, fighting her paying the artists on niji's behalf with her own money, fighting her paying the contest winners out of her own pocket, ghosting her, and then some fucker backstabbing her at the last second to get the MV buried all the while she endured harassment and bullying in a company that abandoned her any time it wasn't fucking her up. It was management asspulling rules no one even heard of prior and didn't even follow for their own content both in the past and content she knew was coming later. It was management skinwalking on her twitter after locking her out. It was management starving her for a month and a half. She'll come out of addressing the defamation by kusosanji perfectly fine.

200k subs.

>>68309574
Deus Vult!

>>68295801
Who is this?
I only watch vtubers from big high quality agencies like nijisanji.

>>68309455
Kaguya Luna.

>>68309641
Chibidoki's new model.

I certainly hope to, but I'll be on the road team driving at the time.

>skinny model
No thanks

>>68295801
Doki's design is a lot cuter than Selen's desu. Love cute blondes.

No. Once a niji, always a niji

>>68295801
Yes but probably short term with that model.

>>68309574
you dragoons are alright

>>68311111
try refreshing your page

>>68311272
no huefag

>>68311272
Not that anon but I'm not originaly a dragoon however I did like Selen enough to watch her from time to time and at some events.
She's fun and now that she is free from Niji's retardedness I wanna see how she does now.
Also looking forward to her getting her silver button.

250k subs before stream seems a lock, 300k seems possible

>>68312352
God just imagine 600k subs in 3 days

Did the rule about past lives just disappear because the drama is just too juicy, you diva queens?

>>68312783
There's no past life rule, only "no IRL" one.

>>68312783
Past lives doesn't apply to graduated/terminated vtubers.

>>68295801
To scrap some ammo lol

>>68295801
I have a feeling that it’s going to reach 100k viewers

>>68295801
yes ofcourse

I'll open it in another tab

>>68295801
yes if possible

>>68295801
Doki's design has Saberface energy

>>68295801
I sure hope she updated that model from fucking three years ago.

>>68312783
"DiD tHe RuL" nigga stfu that rule was stupid to begin with.

>>68314436
Retro is making a comeback some come back for the race to 800k subs

>>68295864
fpbp

>>68295801
I will be there no matter what.

>>68295801
Absolutely, I'm going to wake up just for it even.

>>68296401
Literally where?

>>68295801
Hell no, I'm not into Nijitrash.

>>68317070
What the fuck does Nijisanji have to do with this cute indie girl, you retarded schizo

>>68309574
For perspective, she was at 9,000 before the termination letter dropped.

>>68298525
You're not a chicken, you're a bark knight. This thing that looks like Sif

>>68295801
She better spill the beans… I WANT JUSTICE!!!!!

>>68309574
At 216k now. Interesting is if you look at the Selen channel, it's only dropped like 11k subs since the drama started (was 808k last time I saw). I think I saw her at above 20k for dokibird so doing a little math that means at minimum 5% of the subs unsubbed from Selen to sub to Doki and the rest of the 95% are new people or people that forgot to unsubbed from Selen.

>>68319503
>Mr. Tazumi, a third liver has struck the Yacht

>>68312783
The rule is there to protect privacy, which is a courtesy afforded to vtubers by default. It's not there to protect corporate interest. Now that the Vtuber has EXPLICITLY said that she gives no fucks, it's fine.

>>68297694
I'm 98% sure that Rosemi, Petra, and Vivi are on Selens side privately.

>>68321911
Gods poor Vivi... She's growing up in an abusive broken home.where Dadmu left to get a gallon of milk and a maid cafe stamp card then never returned.

>>68295801
Thinking about drinking to celebrate her return
any ideas?