/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nijisanji de retard

>>68245072
Does this make any more sense in the Japanese version?

this company is as black as the black hole.
Who's next after Selen and Kyo? The EN branch is beyond saving.

>>68245072

>>68245072
Nigger cant read anything

>>68245072
Why would she private her own song and claim the company did it? Are NIJI actually retarded?

>>68245072
Nijisanji copy pastes graduation announcements without checking them, they can be this stupid

>These actions led to ANYCOLOR and NIJISANJI EN damaging their own reputations again.
It amazes me how unprofessional this company is.

"Misleading" is just pr bullshit

>>68245422
Millie was mocking her. That is clear now.

>>68245072
This trannygger intentionally "OMIT" the part "..that OMITTED essential context"

Sasuga, schizo trannynigger.

Jesus fucking christ, man.

>>68245422

>>68245422
Millie is fucking disgusting

>>68245072
>"We privated the song, she lied and said we privated the song"

>She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a Liver due to the decisions made by ANYCOLOR, was being harassed by other affiliated Livers due to mismanagement, etc., while refusing to acknowledge her responsibility for violating the Activity Rules. Moreover, Selen Tatsuki insisted that if the negotiations did not not progress, she would proceed to release a statement regarding her claims to the public.
>was being harassed by other affiliated Livers due to mismanagement
>she would proceed to release a statement regarding her claims to the public
Is it really a good idea to put this in the statement?

>>68245072
sue her riku you fucking pussy

>>68245913
>harassed by other affiliated livers
just one big happy family, right?

>>68245913
Nijiniggers are always so naive and emotional they cant accept a business-like simple statement so they had to explain all contexts and you didnt understand it either.

my condolences /HAHA/ bros

https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1754398295051399532

>>68245412
ROSEMI SAMA GOD PLEASE

>>68245753
>>68245578
>>68245422
I don't watch any EN and have no idea what has been going on with them. But it looks like Selen was just being a dumbass and blaming management for her own stupidity. So the mocking looks totally justified.

>>68245913
It's so funny how they bring up the harassment and make no mention of trying to resolve it, just "suck it up".

>>68245509
You'd think they'd know what a terrible fucking idea it is to drag their talents through the mud like this. They learned absolutely nothing from the Zaion situation blowing up in their faces.

>>68245072
kek nice

>>68245369
I think so. They are more different than I expected.

>>68245412
im happy tumblrinas keep being fired.

>>68245913
I'm convinced this statement was made by a saboteur. It makes them look so fucking bad lmao

>>68245913
>Refuse to solve your company problems
>When negotiations go sour, she tries to brute force them by asserting she'll go public
>Fire her
Okay, so now she goes public, and we already know from Zaion and Nina that the NDA is unenforceable.
The best they can do now is try to minimize the impact doki has with her statement, but considering Doki's tweets have as much exposure as the Niji announcement, good fucking luck with that one.

>>68245913
""Schizos"" once again right for seeing the obvious.

>>68246194
Never use Iroha again nijifag.

>>68246639
Yrah because they cant enforce their shitty and selectively enforced NDA outside of Japan. Imagine them coming over to US/CAN and trying to sue someone because they said "not nice things" they'll get laughed back across the pacific ocean.

>>68245412
Vox.

I'm just waiting for one of the livers to drag Selen's name through the mud just like they did with Zaion. Maybe Finana will come up with another story on how she got gaslighted by her.

>>68246258
Also having no grasp on the EN market to understand that Selen is a beloved figure. Maybe in Japan you can bury talent publically like that--but in the west, people tend to support the talent over the company--this will be a PR disaster unlike anything we've ever seen.

>>68247463
It's going to be hilarious because it's not going to go down like it did with Zaion. Selen has a better reputation than pretty much anyone left at Niji.

>>68245422
>You're unable to view this post
So you weren't even following her?

>>68247634
Niji privated her entire account, anonchama.

>>68246258
Do you live under a rock? It worked with Zaion.

>Niji's chink management is so fucking sociopathic that they don't even realize how evil they look to everyone
They think they can just Zaion her with their little booboo statement KEK
>uuhh how dare she claim she's being bullied!
Wait for their lapdogs Kotoka, Millie and Finana to try to dogpile Selen

>>68247552
wasn't niji management the ones who were telling selen "you aren't special"? or maybe it was her coworkers

>>68245913
Japan will eat it up.

>>68247955
seethe more, dramanigger. you must be the chink

>>68248393
>seething
heh you sisters spam this word so much with a smug while sniffing nijipoos to the point you don't know what it means anymore

>>68245072
Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
>upload song you have no authorization for
>management privates it until they sort things out
>instead of waiting for them to do their thing go to xhitter to tell everyone they privated it for no reason and encourage people to reupload it
>get rightfully fucked

I don't get what problem nijiniggers have with this. Then again, nijiniggers are amongst the lowest lifeforms on this planet so it does kinda check out.

>>68246639
Then again, what do they stand to lose? Can't go darker than black

>>68247803
No it didn't. Because of Sayu confirming things, we got stuff like the 2%, no salary, stealth suspensions confirmed, and more. If they didn't drag her name, we would have to rely on Mysta's words only about merch.

>>68248870
Can't you read nigga? The issue is that the directly contradict themselves within the same paragraph.

>>68248870
>go through all of this trouble
>management makes a new rule mid-production just to fuck you over
>there is no way to get the video back up due to the new rules requiring permission from management to use graduated/terminated livers, which they would never give

>>68249034
The problem is that (You) can't read. That's not where the sentence ends.
>UNTIL ALL AUTHORIZATIONS WERE CONFIRMED FROM OUR END.
The clear implication of the statement is that they privated it for a good reason but Selen told people they just privated it for no reason and even encouraged people to repload it, further emphasizing that management privated it for no reason but why bother with reading when you can just take half a sentence out of context and start seething at it like the subhuman monkeys you are.

>>68249296
So we agree they lied in that "management privated it" is misinformation?

>>68249296
the last authorization came from a last minute new rule from niji mane btw, which is the permission from their fellow liver organ employees.

Lick that arse harder, nijifag

>>68249286
not to mention, none of these issues were raised prior to the video being posted meaning it would be extra work (and even more money out of selen's pocket) to fix management's complaints

>>68249794
Pretty sure you would need a lot more than 2 doctors to pull a nijifags tongue from riku's asshole

>>68246194
It looks like that to you because you have no idea what has been going on with them.

>>68245072
About the level of reading comprehension expected of people who exclusively think Nijisanji is at fault

>>68250126
ok retard.

>>68245072
They're saying that she didn't provide context for it to make them look bad. Basically they're claiming that she withheld information in her tweets to make it look like the move came as a surprise when they apparently told her before she uploaded it to wait a few days so they could get permissions in order. One scenario makes them look worse than the other. Not defending how they handled this or anything, but what they're saying here isn't contradictory.

>>68245072
She lied by not mentioning why it was privated which lead to speculation even from others within the company.

>>68249548
Jesus fucking Christ.
That's not the point of the statement. The point of the statement is that Selen, by only saying "management privated it," and also encouraging people to reupload it insinuates that management privated it for no reason.
"Making misleading statements" is also not where that sentence ends; it's followed by "THAT OMITTED ESSENTIAL CONTEXT" which is what leads to Selen's post being misleading.
The point is that Selen made reckless statements without context, much like how you subhumans take 2 halves of 2 different sentences out of context and latch onto them like retarded fucking subhumans as if it was some sort of "gotcha" when ANYONE with above room temperature IQ is able to clearly understand the underlying problem here.

>>68249794
I don't give a shit. Nijishitji, their subhuman "livers" and their subhuman audience should
all get gassed. I'm a completely disinterested party, I just hate it when retarded pieces of shit take things out of context and try to create a false narrative.

>>68247055
Nina/MataraKan lives in Japan now if I remember right and she still doesn't give a fuck about any possible "NDA"

>>68250554
It's selectively enforced. I imagine that the NDA holds legal weight in Japan. Unless it doesn't and they're just using it as justification for terminating their talents and nothing else.

>>68250506
>>68248870
Finally someone with above average iq

>>68246194
Having no idea what's going on is precisely what niji management and the EN colleagues hope for, so well done I guess

>>68250885
if that's above average iq, then society is truly doomed.

Suggesting that management is in the clear for privating a video 'while waiting for perms' that had already fully arrived is some msnbc npc shit

>>68247697
You can still see her tweets if you're following her anon

>>68245889
>Did I private the song?
>No, she omitted essential context behind my decision to private the song

>>68247955
>bullying, etc.
Lmao are they serious

>>68246194
Imagine being proud of this level of ignorance

>>68247803
How the fuck do (You) even manage to use a computer at this level of retardation?

>>68246133
actual giga-stacy

>>68245072
Of course it damaged your reputations, you're claiming you didn't authorize all permissions by the day you had planned to release the cover.

>>68251193
It's just as everone already knew. She used imagery of ex talents whixh Nijisanji wouldn't allow.
The entire crux of the issue built upon some retarded rule because an executive was butthurt about talents leaving and wanta to pretend that they never existed.

>>68248870
Holy bootlicking

>>68246194
That's my impression as an outsider too. When you peel off all the layers of the story, isn't it pretty obvious she was in the wrong to begin with? No matter how shitty management was.

>>68245072

>>68252646
kek

>>68252619
It's gotten to the point where it's just a mirror of politics now.
>If you don't instantly side with me you're on the other side
>If you even dare to question anything I claim then you're on the other side
>Don't think, my side is always right
>Don't read what is actually written, only read what I choose from the document
>Anyone who doesn't side with me is an X, Y, Z

>>68245422
uwu just wemembew to have the owkey fwom the management next time uwu Smile ;)

>>68250506
>saying "management privated it,"
So you do agree that kurosanji lied about not privating it?
If they are telling one lie, they can tell other lies. That's how evil liars work.

>>68254305
>kurosanji lied about not privating it
This never happened.

>>68252463
That was never a rule until they made it up after the fact and everyone knows that including liars like you.

>>68254359
>Kurosanji released a statement lying about never provating it
>Kurosanji never released a statement
Here we are

>>68254593
Quote the part where they said they didn't private it.

>>68245422
Fucking bitch

>>68250506
>>I'm a completely disinterested party
>Missing all context surrounding this
>Proceed spew retarded bullshit
You're even worse than JP Nijinigger.

>>68245422

>>68247628
Good, let the dumbasses out themselves as the bullies

>>68254593
KEK
The first line states they made it private >>68245072
I get that Niji is a black company but the anti niji force is looking just as stupid. Can't read and makes shit up. I don't think acting like a niji manager helps you at all.

>>68245422
absolute stacy

>>68245072
the absolute state of blackisanji

>>68245412
Please let it be Ren. He's actually just a normal guy. He'd be better off as a fleshtuber or go indie.

>>68245422
I thought Selen was the one meant to resemble a snake geeeeeeez

>>68254427
When did I lie? You're agreeing with me

>>68245422
>getting mad when you dont know shit
yup, it's /vt/!

>>68246194
its a screwup from both sides

>>68245072
when something like this is fucking 4 pages long, you know a company fucked up hard

>>68250554
She better. Japs are crazy when it comes to that shit. Fuck it, they as a company could sue the fuck out of an individual for hurting their feelings, even if whatever she says is 100% correct, as long as they did not break any laws and sustained any measurable loss of revenue.

>>68246194
>have no idea what has been going on with them
We can tell.

>>68245422
what a fucking bitch, man some women are EVIL the fuck

>>68252619
As an outsider looking for drama, that is not the impression I'm getting. This reeks of company incompetence to me. Even in their statement they keep saying how the talent didn't do x, didn't do y... what the fuck were they doing? How the fuck can the management not even get an OK on using their own IP shit? This legit seems like they were extorting her behind the scenes, ala do us a favor and we will move the project along.
On top of the flimsy "she got harassed by livers....so what... did she tell you how she didn't play ball with management tho?!?!!?!?!?"

>>68252619
she's in the wrong for paying for a music video and management being faggots about it? you think she deserved getting fired over a music video? funny how niji has to write 4 pages of filler trying to convince us that they're in the right for axing one of their biggest streamers over a minor quarrel. meanwhile she's going to rake in her fanbase again without the bullying, stress and pay cut of corpo.

>>68246105
FUCK I LOVE MY NIJI FAMLIY!

>>68246930
Iroha?

>>68245422
So I think we can all agree that it's clear now why Millie made this post-- she was mocking her right to her face. That's why the tone of the post was so weird and why it was made publicly. Wow.

>>68262408
Yeah, that's basically what it looked like was happening from my pov. Selen would set something up weeks/months in advance, then 3-4 days before the stream/event management would go "lol sry no perms cancel strim plz". I have no clue how Selen acted off stream, but I can understand how stupidly frustrating that would be for anyone to deal with.

>>68252619
1. Management should be reviewing their own content their company is releasing.
2. Management should not treat their prominent talents as contractors merely when it is convenient for them to avoid being held accountable.
3. If management was competent at their job, the costs would have been covered by them so they can review if they want this representing their company and avoid liable situations like this.

Tl;dr u r retard no gud busines u wil nvr b richu

>>68246194
>the mocking looks totally justified
The typical response from a NEET

>>68245913
>>68246639
Looking at it like this it seems like they know she's going to make a statement, so they're trying to drag her name through the mud as hard as they can to try and deflect. If that's their strategy then honestly its backfiring because they're coming out of this looking like an incredibly shitty company. I imagine they're hoping to hook people who aren't familiar with the situation.

>>68246133
literal psychopath lol

imagine still defending nijisanji. it's not like this is an isolated case at this point. it's a pattern of behavior from a black company that neglects every nonJP liver. pretending otherwise is incredibly bizarre when it's clear for everyone to see.

>>68263713
I don't think anything about whether she deserved to be fired or not (though I do think it's a retarded/incompetent move by niji). It's all a shitfest of conflicting versions, as these things always are, and I don't really have any reason to side with anybody. I'm just watching the building crash and burn. Also
>convince us
lol no, they obviously know that's a lost case. They're concerned with the legal battle that's to ensue.

>>68264589
>1. Management should be reviewing their own content their company is releasing.
Didn't this issue start with management reviewing the content, saying it wasn't ready to be uploaded, but Selen going against that instruction and uploading it anyway?

>>68246258
But there was no zaion "situation" blowing up because zaion was a nobody until she started actually doing shit wrong.

>>68250506
That's some mental gymnastics alright.

>>68254736
>"making misleading statements"
>"management has privated a song"
They are calling the factual 100% true statement from Selen "misleading"
No amount of context would make the factual statement untrue. They privated it, saying that they did so is not misleading.

If I say America dropped nukes on Japan, would you call that a misleading statement just because I didn't hand over a history book when I said it to give you context?
>She said what we did! We don't want the public to ever hear what we did unless it's in a way that benefits us!
This is the more truthful statement from black company corpo that abuses employees.

>>68245422
So the queen of flips acted like any other snake flip. Nothing to see here.

>>68258630
If it was a black company they'd either be keeping her and working her to death or going to lengths to kill her future employment possibilities like saying she's a pedo or summat. Y'all really don't get how black companies operate. They don't let you get away, they destroy you thoroughly.

>>68261791

It's maybe 10% on Selen and 90% on the filthy dirtbags running NijiEN. Selen probably should have known that asking people to re-upload the song would get her fired.

But on the other hand, she spent $15k on this song after fighting for a year to get it approved, got the okay, and then management capriciously yanked it AT BEST because they didn't like ex-Livers being in the song, and at worst because they disliked Selen and just wanted to fuck with her. And this is on top of the other shit they did to her, and on top of the hostile workplace enviroment they fostered.

None of this would have happened if EN wasn't run by people with the maturity level of a high school girl on a power trip. It's clear this is a pattern, because ALL their ex-Livers have made similar kinds of claims - vicious clique infighting, toxic workplace and harassment, and deliberate sabotage of projects by the management.

>>68267588
Seeing how they Stalin'd Zaion out of a certain Identity cover following her termination, this degree of pettiness would be on-brand for them.

>>68267588
No one's actually running NijiEN because the director quit. There's a new opening if you want to apply
https://open.talentio.com/r/1/c/ichikara-inc/pages/88030

>>68246194
Wow, Ken-sama is even groveling to the corporation's word and firmly attaching his tongue to the company's anus. Just as it's supposed to be in Japanese culture. That's commitment.

>>68267588
this is WWE levels of sabotaging your own talent KWAB

>>68267952
>there are people who flew out to Anime Impulse just for this "concert"

>>68245422
May Millie rot in pagpag hell for eternity.

>>68245412
Rosemi probably, the only female liver after her who’s even slightly tolerable is Scarle i guess, don’t have any idea about males though since i don’t watch them at all.

>>68265808
You are irredeemably retarded. This point was explained perfectly clearly in >>68250506 .

>>68246194
Kys falseflagging NDFaggot, go suck shit directly from Riku’s rectum.

>>68246133
Listen I know nobody will pay attention, but not only did this tweet go out before the announcement (which probably nobody was told about in advance), she's singing The 7th Element
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=989-7xsRLR4

>>68245798
Mr. Wright, I think the witness might be digging their own grave against your defendant, shouldn't you say something?

>>68245422
What a viper

>>68267588
>Selen probably should have known that asking people to re-upload the song would get her fired.
She absolutely did and absolutely was saying fuck these niggers I'm done both literally and with the company.

>>68245913
Imagine going to management for help when harassed by your coworkers and they use it as an excuse to fucking terminate you. Disgusting.

>>68245412
>kyo
is the faggot leaving too? wasn't he a part of the "clique"?

The irony of Kyo leaving because the company was too black.

>>68269221
I couldn't care less about Niji, it can burn to the ground and I'll just enjoy the fireworks, maybe hope that Mito makes it out alive.

It's just that Selen and her simps look kinda stupid through just her tweets alone and the reactions to them. Like how nobody even calls her out for making the company she works for look bad or the "attempt..." bullshit which is a major red flag.

>>68271584
Trying too hard anon

>>68265510
Pretty sure it's the opposite. Management OK'd it, but then changed their mind (or in all likelihood didn't review it properly), then took it down without notice.

>>68270635
Yeah and it came out of nowhere
rrat is that he's one of the bullies but he was smart enough to leave before the finger pointing started

>>68245913
>>68264689
>>68270485
I feell ike this was done entirely for Japanese audiences. Nijisanji in general always seemed to me like they do things primarily for the Japanese and downright ignore the English audience.

>>68246194
Na, you are right. Niji is a black company but Selena fucked up and didn’t have the mental to cope with it. This fact also makes it pretty likely that the “bullying” she received was just normal counsel/advice that she interpreted as bullying and decided to keep playing the victim card.

>>68249296
They knew what she was doing months in advance. If they needed to check perms for themselves, why did they not do it in the months leading up to it, but waited until there was no way to release it without a giant wait period that didn't need to exist.

>>68245072
This is why you don't let AI write your termination notices.

>>68272332
Imagine if this is true. Now think about how guilty your conscience is if it literally told you to run the moment you found out your victim made an attempt. Fucking grim

>>68272332
damn, what a fucking rats!

>>68264572
When all the colors leave, all that's left is black

>>68272298
If that's the case then they're telling a pretty egregious lie in their statement. Did Selen ever tell her version of this timeline?

>>68274090
She only found out about her termination the same time as we did. She will talk soon.

>>68246194
Failing to ask permission from management before uploading a music video is equivalent to jaywalking in terms of crimes. It's not something you should do, and it's a crime according to the letter of the law, but if a cop saw you doing it, they would be more likely to just ignore it entirely and let it slide instead of giving you a ticket.
However, the Nijisanji cop would pull over, beat the shit out of you, handcuff you, and drag you to the station.

>>68248985

>>68274968
In that metaphor what she did is more like being caught jaywalking right after being told she shouldn't be doing it, then after being told to get off the street, telling the cop to fuck of and starting to dance in the middle of the street while inviting everyone around to join in.

>>68272332
It's very believable.
He has a physical disability, meaning he's never been intimate with a woman, and a mental disability, so he's easy to manipulate.
Couple that with the fact that Enna, a known manipulator and leader of the clique, was the one who spent the most time with him and even held his hand in the off-collab.
Everyone joked about Aloupeeps getting cucked, but there's a very high chance that she at least gave him a handjob in order to seal the deal and ensure he'd remain on their side.

>>68277365
Weird post

>>68246194
>>68252619
I believe she probably screwed something up as well, but no matter what way you look at it there's no fucking way they should've been reviewing the materials one day before upload when it's a longform multi-artist commission piece that must've been in the works for weeks if not months. What's even the point of having a manager if not to handle situations exactly like this?

>>68245072
kek

>>68274090
From what I can remember imagine relying on something so unreliable she's had a few stream ideas and events in the past where she's announced them way ahead of time, implying implicitly that she's already cleared it with management, only to have them pull the plug at the 11th hour. CBA to find specific sources (especially with her ch being nuked) but I'm sure there's some dragoon lurking in this thread who remembers the specific events and has timestamps to her complaining previously. Might not be remembering correctly so feel free to shit on me if I'm wrong.

>>68281838
See even if we be as charitable as possible to Niji and assume she announced things in advance WITHOUT approval to try to do an “ask for forgiveness, not permission” thing, they still should have been monitoring her enough to pull the plug immediately. Even if we assume she fucked up as often and hard as possible in every situation, it’s STILL on them for abysmal management. And that’s only if we give them as much benefit of the doubt as humanly possible (undeservedly so).