/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>sister: its okay its not gura

>>68093178
Least obvious falseflag.

>>68093048
she survived the niji hitsquad but was left in the hospital in critical condition. if she plays this right she can come out on top

Imagine working for a company where you go to your boss:
>things aren't working out, I'd like to resign
>you can't resign
>wait, why?
>six of your colleagues are also quitting and you need to get in line
What a fucking disaster of a branch

>>68093428
least obvious ndf post

>>68093048
40 kg overweight

SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE COME BACK I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I MADE SURE TO PUT THE RENT ON AUTOPAY THIS TIME

>>68093610
>>68093610
This just in, Riku Tazumi, CEO of acclaimed entertainment company Nijisanji has been apprehended under suspicion of his involvement in disappearance of live talent Selen Tatsuki. Renowned celebrity Dragoon Christian Bale reportedly enroute

>>68093048
>40 days since last stream!
40 days since last stream!
>40 days since last stream!
40 days since last stream!

>>68093048
Does Gundo hold the record for the longest Niji suspension? Can Selen beat it?

>>68093048
She's gone faggot, cope and seethe
It was over before it even started

>>68096217


the longest nijisanji stealth suspension

>>68093633
>there's been a graduation this month already
>oops, no salary for you till March, sorry!
This has to be illegal. Can we make a lawyer fund for her?

>>68093048
They are seriously taking their time eith this.

>>68093048
>40 days and 40 nights since last stream

>>68096413
F

>>68094458
Okay, this NDF shit was fun at first, but it's annoying now

>>68093048
I just feel bad for her at this point
>couldn't graduate/get terminated in January because of Pomu's graduation
>now can't do that either in February because of Kyo's graduation
>probably won't even get the chance in March also
She either somehow survives this whole thing and comes back this month or stays in purgatory for a few months

>>68096413
She wasn't stealth suspended she was openly suspended so that Niji would have more of a case when suing one of their other ex-talents. It failed because they couldn't help but sell voice packs and merch and the judge asked why the fuck Niji stopping her from streaming was the responsibility of the menhera they were suing. No, really.

>>68104989

Does anyone believe it's not termination at this point? Normally it does not take this long.

>>68106166
Dragging it like this just feels petty.

>>68106166
Still technically graduation since they are waiting for the clock on her contract to expire. They just want to make her last weeks "in" the company as miserable as possible in order to make an example out of what happens to Livers taking steaming dogwhistle dumps on Kurosanji management in their final months of working for that Shakespearean tragicomedy of a company.

>>68093048
>35 days in a cold dark grave

She should just quit and start streaming as a new persona. What can Niji possibly do, terminate her?

>>68107274
Sue her.

>>68107274
Sue her for breaking contract? She is panhandling online while being suspended without pay. You think she can afford a lawsuit?

>>68093048
And she'll wait until March kek.

>>68107349
>uses her own money to heavily invest in large projects for NijiEN
>results in having less money for herself
>potentially gets sued by said company she has helped craft the image and good will for
deeply fucked

>>68107473
March slot is already taken.

>>68107581
I want to know what % the company gets out of those MVs, considering they're not investing a cent in them.

i feel bad for you dragoons seriously shits fucked. shit kinda happened to my oshi too. i hope selen gets her happy ending like my oshi

>>68106166
Half of /haha/ refuses to even acknowledge it's suspension.

>>68095333
A good start but we can do better.

>>68107612
God dammit, April then. I can totally see Nijisanji being extra spiteful and announcing the graduation on April Fools.

>>68108435
>Half of /haha/
One or two people who post a lot.

>>68093048
Anyone got a list of events that have happened since she last streamed?

>>68108385
much love! Been watching here since debut and the silence is awful. All the times she was on break or away sick she would retweet art just to let us know she was still around watching us. And now we are just completely in the dark

Sayufag here, I can relate to you guys all too well. Stay strong everyone!

>>68093048
They held Zaion hostage too.
Niji is incapable of learning because their fans accept such petty actions.

>>68107349
>Sue her for breaking contract?
fuck kinda contract is like "we will keep you employed indefinitely"?

Kyo took the February slot. Now Selen has to stay in purgatory until March. She'll probably need more help this month on Throne.

>>68109372
>While contracted for us you cannot stream for anyone else without permission (including yourself).
>If you break the rules we have the right to suspend you for as long as need, or terminate the contract if needed
>This is in effect for the duration of the contract between ANYCOLOR and [insert name here]
Seems pretty clear cut to me. I'm sure there's nothing stopping Selen from working retail.

>>68109510
>in purgatory until March
The sad part is that this might be the best case scenario. Because there's always a possibility there are more people "in the queue" in front of her. Or that it's not a matter of queue, but Niji spitefully making her wait out until end of contract whenever it might be.

>>68109562
>If you break the rules we have the right to suspend you for as long as need, or terminate the contract if needed
then terminate it
nothing about sueing in that statement

>>68098151
It is not illegal because there is no salary in the first place.

>>68109562
Tbf freezing and starving to death while playing Apex is probably a preferable fate to working retail.

>>68093048
>>68093633
https://open.talentio.com/r/1/c/ichikara-inc/pages/88030
>new director of EN is still being hired after they fired the old one
>Selen has to wait for the new director to terminate her since none of their managers are willing to take the blame due to their incompetence and office politics

Be the next agent of change anons

>>68109704
That just mean they broke more laws you can't just keep your contract workers from doing another job.

>>68093048
Why can't dragoons be more like chumbuds? They don't complain about long hiatuses.

>>68109886
Wrong position dumbass. That's the sale director position. Harry still keep his job.

>>68107612
But Millie is one of the biggest Niji bootlickers.

>>68110096
So was Kyo.

>>68110136
I think you're lying.

>>68110024
So true Nijisis

Being treated badly and forced to stop streaming is the same as taking long break out of their own free will

>>68110024
Why can't NDF stop whatabouting?

>>68110154
Considered she was in the hospital, there's no reason to think she was "forced" to stop streaming.

>>68110096
That's what makes the joke funny.
Although Millie has had some of her projects cancelled/delayed/in limbo, so she might just be the type of person who feels the need to defend her employer even if there are internal rifts. I doubt she'll be actually leaving anytime soon though, I'm just making a funny.

>>68110251
>was
That was 1 months ago anon

>>68110323
Just because she was discharged doesn't mean she's healthy. She could still be recovering in bed even now.

>>68110375
>"I got out of bed and play apex today"
ShE cOUlD sTill Be in BEd
>Grind apex 10 hours a day
ShE iSn'T HeAltHy

Can you stop with the easily proven to be false shit.

>>68110447
Playing video gmaes is both less stressful and less demanding than streaming.

>>68110375
She's not. She's grinding Apex and getting her non-Niji friends to leak her dissatisfaction about being silenced.

>>68110447
You must be a real stick in the mud if you don't think people should be allowed to play their favourite games whilst recovering...

>>68109886
>>68110070 (me)
They fired the passionate staff and kept the UMG contracted musician boss

>>68110540
She literally tweeted "I got out of bed" and you say she's in bed. Even if I'm actually a stick in the mud doesn't change fact that she's not on bed.

>>68110251
> posts a NY voice tweet on rm (which was barely active to that point) not on main account
> is active on rm before that conspicuously falls silent
> communicates via steam profile name changes before that also conspicuously falls silent, last name change seen is "help"
> rm asks for "bills and rent" money through throne, rapidly deletes it and replaces it with "donations" with ~$2k cap
> when explaining absence on AI Niji carefully avoids using "health issues" or "recovery" instead citing "unforseen" reasons
> Niji is being asked by fans on what is happening, could have quickly quelled the movement with a simple statement that she's still recovering after hospital but chooses to remain silent.
But sure, everything is fiiine, she's just resting.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se stealth suspension in Nijisanji.

>>68110624
"Out of bed" is a popular expression. It's not confirmation of anything.

>>68110624 (me)
I'm sorry for lying, she's on my bed right now

>>68111290
jesus christ stop the cope
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1743092433901199722
Yeah I built these set for her because I'm her boyfriend
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1743797023219052722
I'm also drawing emotes for her right now
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1742375951999389858
She also rewarded me with kisses for building her dog a set of stairs

>>68111441
You also made her Nijisanji return promi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXchspHrKZM

>>68111441
I can confirm she is healthy. She is bouncing on my cock playing apex everyday. This also why she is playing 10h per day.

Sorry for not informing you guys I told her to stop using Twitter to focus on the ride

>>68109510
>graduation slots
is that an actual thing or a meme? if your contract is up i don't see how niji can keep you, beside making your life shit until the end

>>68111679
It's an assumption based on observation as far as I know, unless there was something about it in Zaion's document. But so far it aligns too neatly with what's happening.
As for your other question, Niji won't have a choice once the contract ticks down (although I'm not sure if they're obligated to announce her departure straight away), but until it does they absolutely can hold her in limbo, unable to do anything.

>>68111812
is selen contract up in april/may ?

>>68111679
There were multiple leaks talking about it last year and so far it checks out.

>>68111255
They also prevented her from appearing on Pomu's farewell totsu, both in call and letter form, making her the only NijiEN who didn't appear at all.

>>68110154
>>68111255
She isn't suspended anymore if she was in the first place. EN suspensions have never lasted longer than a month. It is clearly her choice not to stream.. Maybe she's doing it in protest of the cover not being released yet.

>>68111812
>>68111926
Most likely in August/September.
She had a cancelled tournament around that time after which she went silent for a while, people were speculating possible graduation, and then suddenly she published the list of goals she wants to achieve in Nijisanji. Strap in, this can take a while before she's set free.
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1703915755576926321

>>68112119
You're not tricking anyone Millie.

>>68112166
Shut the fuck up retard. You're clearly not a dragoon and just a shitflinger if you can't see this.

>>68112137
gj black company, trying to make talent suffer from poverty all the while hoping people will forget about her as time goes on.
amazing how malicious it can be if true

>>68112201
Easy there sister, no need to lash out. Just because there was no suspension this long previously (in EN) doesn't mean it's suddenly not one. Trying to claim it's her own decision to stream is absolutely malicious corpo bootlikcing on your part.

i dont even know this Selen girl, but i feel sorry for her

>>68112245
decision to not stream*

They're taking their sweet time because they know the moment they officially announce she's gone, it's unironically over for the branch. NijiEN is never gonna recover from this, it's possibly the most retarded thing the company has done so far and with their sinking reputation, they know it's the final blow and are desperate for a way to soften things, and failing miserably.

>>68112245
Why would she stream if she is dissatisfied with how management handled her cover? It's probably a similar situation as Magni/Vesper and she's just waiting out on her contract to end. Very unlikely that it's an extremely long suspension.

She's def coming back tomorrow

>>68112474
Selen isn't THAT big and her fanbase is relatively insular from the rest of NijiEN (they were in good term with the Pomudachis). Her departure will hit the balance sheet a little, but won't affect the branch as a whole.

>>68112516
It's probably a little of both. I agree she's probably waiting out her contract/negotiating an exit, but they're also restricting her activities.
Every avenue of communication she's used has been silenced one after another, from her official Twitter to her PL Twitter to finally communicating with Steam alias changes, the final of which was, ominously, just "help". The #WhereIsSelen campaign started a couple days after that and people who know her are increasingly jumping on board with it.
In other words you're probably right, but there's been so many signs of the corpo muzzling her that there's more going on.

>>68096413
Last time I checked (around a year ago) she was still listed as a talent for Nijisanji. Was she really kicked out? I though she was debuted as an inside joke within the company

This only proves the temperance showcased by Chumbuds awaiting Gura's return , zero begging threads , only seething nijidrones with shitposts

>>68112516
>Why would she stream
To make money, you fucking retard. She whined about not having enough money multiple times over last weeks.

>>68112925
Wait, what happened with her Steam alias?

>>68107642
Probs nothing in the first place. MV has always been a way for livers to advertise themselves rather than making money.
Even hololivers has multiple times stated that they lose money while doing covers. Yagoo actually pays for ID to do original songs.

>>68113626
she reverted it back into the default name and stopped updating it a week ago.
And this is someone who was changing it multiple times a day

>>68113626
She changed it to a bunch of meme videos (mostly furfag shit and the ender dragon), used it to say she went hard on and quickly got sick of Palworld, changed it to "tomato time" and ":tomato_emoji:", then finally "help". Then it changed back to her normal Steam alias and hasn't changed it since.

>>68093048
She’s pagpag by now anon, you have to let go…

Finally found Selen, she's with (You)

>>68108701
Ike's been dropping hints as well, Niji might let him go fist to fuck over Selen more

I wish Selen hanged out with Pomu one last time, preferably while pic related happened

>>68114169
That's an Enna stream.

>>68113978
I mean, this could all have been resolved quickly and with no drama if Selen had simply resigned properly at the end of 2023. It's her pride that's keeping her digging her heels in and taunting Niji to terminate her so she can hurt their PR. Fine, if you are unhappy with your workplace you can leave, but have the courtesy to not set fire to the building on your way out.

>>68112474
I thought the majoroty of NijiEN viewers were now females? I think one of the most popular guys graduating would be the thing that kills the branch for good

>>68114350
>nijidrones keep sucking the companys cock even to this day
ayy lmao

>>68114414
It's not defending the company. They can do bad stuff, but Selen went out of her way to make this whole separation more miserable for herself than it had to be.

>>68108701
That would be a very Nijisanji thing to do. A handful of other dates to keep an eye on between now and then:

This weekend 2/3 and 2/4: huge anniversary tournament
Next week: 2/8 anniversary of Zaion's suspension notice; 2/10 Niji EN Mario Kart tournament, and also Chinese New Year (Dragon)
2/16: Kyo's graduation
2/23 or 2/24: Day 60 of Selen's hiatus which totally isn't a suspension you guys why do you hate the other livers

March, date TBA: Anycolor earnings call
3/10: Anniversary of Zaion's termination. Also the anniversary of Niji EN inadvertently confirming that they do stealth suspensions.
3/24 or 3/25: Day 90 of Selen's hiatus which is totally health related because she was in the hospital recently stop asking for her medical records you don't need to know if she's okay

4/1: April Fools Day, as you said. They WILL do something stupid that day. Whether it will be related to Selen or not is still TBD, but whatever they do will have fans angry that they did it on that day instead of any other day (in addition to being angry that they did it at all)

>>68114389
Check their ccv. Pomu, Elira and Selen were top3 of Niji EN in last months of 2023.

>>68114389
I didn't know niji en was dead all this time since mysta left.

>>68112800
Maybe back in 2022 you might have a point, but Selen, along with Pomu and shu are one of the few talents that have weathered the collapse of the chink fujo market so Selen is in fact one of the biggest talents in the branch. Not to mention the knock on effects from losing so many talents in quick succession might cause fans to give up on nijisanji altogether

my dream is selen getting picked up by holo and getting the queen treatment she deserves

>>68114389
That used to be the case from 2022 onto early 2023. But Luxiem basically killed most of their hype since they could barely hide the contempt for the audience they nurtured.

>>68115121
Phase Connect

>>68112800
>>68115034
Not to mention the fact that Selen was their most popular vtuber with streamers outside the company. The fact Nijisanji treated her like shit for all she did for them is going to have a massive chilling effect.

>>68114708
This is false, the boys are still heavy lifting the branches, the fujoshi is still there, the doxx sites still generate thousands of comments a day on Nina's page (They used her page as Nijigeneral because every single fujo used to shit on her)

Selen being top is true, the others not.

>>68115121

obese slampigs cheating on their fans with random ecelebs are not queens

>>68115656
selen isn't gfe. she's our sister

>>68113047
No, she wasn't. She just doesn't have to stream.

>>68115614
Yeah, losing selen is really going to hurt nijisanji

>>68115682
pigs are genetically similar to humans so I guess.

>>68115383
Nah. Selen (and Pomu while we're at it) have much better prospects by going indie and having 100% of earnings, and you just know they've been traumatized enough by Niji management to stay the fuck away from the corpo scene. Only Vshojo which is widely known for its very lax management could be of interest to them.

Only organ I could ever see joining Phase is Rosemi, and only because of the meme that the CEO is on a quest to hunt down all of Tsunderia's remnants. Even then it's a less than 5% chance.

>>68115614
Hmm sorry then, thanks for correction.
That said, looking at December, the boys were slightly inflated by their anniversary collabs. They probably still end up above Pomu/Elira but difference would become much smaller if those outliers were excluded.

>>68115973
>and you just know they've been traumatized enough by Niji management to stay the fuck away from the corpo scene
Holofags said this about
>Yugo
>Mysta
>Nina
>Luna

>>68115973
>and you just know they've been traumatized enough by Niji management to stay the fuck away from the corpo scene
Nah, Pomu doesn't mind sacrificing herself for corpos, what did her in was absolute lack of results for those sacrifices. If her efforts aren't wasted anymore, she would do fine in Holo. DOn't knowSelen enough to make judgement on her but she isn't a good fit for Holo EN with her FPS focus. Such interests could work in Holo JP but not in EN.

would selen fit into hololive

>>68116250
VSPO! maybe?

>>68116306
She would literally fit better in Holostars.

>>68116347
Yeah, I think VSPO would be the best for Selen.

>>68116347
>>68116434
VSPO would be terrible for Selen. They have JP corpo autism worse than either Holo or Niji, they suspend people for teabagging. Selen won't fit in their box. She also just doesn't have the mentality for pro esports, she gets in her own head and has menhera breakdowns when she goes too hard. Add to this thay Brave Group's ventures into the West have all been flops, literal 2views, she'd be sacrificing a huge percentage of her audience to go that route. It's actually the worst outcome, anything else would be better.

>>68116677
>they suspend people for teabagging
You can't be fucking serious.

>>68116080
Selen were also hard inflated by the apex tournament as the hololive audience came over to watch her. If you discount those you'd have to discount selen.

>>68116677
>>68116760
Was it teabagging?
I read that it was something about shooting a death-box in Apex.
Or was that a different suspension?

>>68116306
no way Dimitry Jap will let a homobegger in his CGDCT haven

>>68117060
Yeah, it was shooting a deathbox, but they also put out a survey where they asked if "friendly" teabagging (i.e. between members/their friends) was okay for EN. They ban any sort of BM, don't allow lewds, etc., no other JP corpo is this strict. The idea that Selen would fit in with this culture is ridiculous.

>>68117265
people can change and adapt anon.
Noone though Natsumi Moe would join a corpo and much less being able to pull of Hololive
People were doubting Luna would be able to last more than 1 year in hololive.

The teabagging shit only happened because the community blew up and VSPO caved. Overall they are way less strict than Hololive and Nijisanji even.

>>68117761
What evidence do we have that Selen is ready to "change and adapt"? She just had a mental breakdown and spent a week in the hospital over an MV takedown. Her most recent Apex ventures were a low point and ended with her shelving the game for months and becoming a variety streamer. Maybe if she's changed a lot in a year or two, and VSPO EN has proven it can get talents above 2view, it would make sense for her to join. But it makes zero sense right now.

>>68117983
>over an MV takedown
anon she wasn't offing herself over her MV getting taken down, she was doing it because she got terminated.
>Her most recent Apex ventures were a low point
How many years ago is this most recent, she successfully held TSB and it boosted her viewership alot
> What evidence do we have that Selen is ready to "change and adapt
Getting cucked by management time and time again and still pushing through instead of giving up like Pomu & Nina. You can literally pinpoint the moment those 2 gave up. And it's very visible that Selen went through at least 3 times the amount of getting fucked over by management.
>VSPO EN has proven it can get talents above 2view
Complete irrelevant. All I said is it's not as strict as people making it out to be. I don't care if she's actually joining or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aeqt90y3rrU
>Selen: Riku this is Dragoon requesting a graduation
>Kurosanji: Negative Dragoon the pattern is full
>Pomu: No, no Selen this is not a good idea
>Selen: Sorry Pomu but its time for the last cup of coffee
>YEEEEEEHAW

>>68117983
>>68117983
Btw there wasnt any evidence of her trying to off herself beside "72 hours"
She posted a picture with a white hospital band, something given to people upon entry. You can go in, not get diagnosed with anything and still get the band.
You can also order it off amazon.
Suicide prevention band are different colored, it's green I believe. At least that what people wear when I google "suicide watch experience"
Here are colored bands and what they means

>>68118451
She's not american.

>>68118451
What a shitty system.
It's no wonder there are so many medical errors.

>>68112800
Who else is going to carry the branch? Most of its other members are either 3views or widely hated at this point.

>>68118189
TSB was fine, because it was a casual/just for fun thing. I would instead look at anything actually competitive she did in 2023, starting with VSaikyo up to the OTK tournament, where she literally ended up in last place. If you actually watched her you'd know what a rough year it's been.
>>68118451
She didn't try to off herself, but these codes (which are from New Jersey or something) have nothing to do with anything. She hasn't chosen to speak about it but the most likely scenario is she had a mental breakdown.

>>68093048
Does NijiEN hate women? Biological, that is.

>>68120028
Difficult to say.
Yugo was fired immediately after deciding she was a man, so I'm not sure if that's a point for or against the theory.

>>68118451
Way more likely a panic/anxiety attack caused by what NijiEN built up. She was released early and not sent to a looney institution to protect herself. Her restarting commissions, sending Steam messages, and is frequently online with her game accounts. Selen is staying strong, despite NijiEN's tactics to keep her alone feeling suicidal.

>>68093048
Is this the record for NijiEN on being stealth suspended?

>>68120276
Maybe because she's not being submissive as they think all women should be?

>>68115542
They don't fucking care. It's what happens when you run a business like if it was a dictatorship. Anybody not in the clique is dead weight to them, cause they don't give a fuck about the business, they're only there because of the power.

>>68120787
>Nijisanji actually thought they could fight the Word of God

>>68123138
Thank you for giving us tomboys, based God.

>>68120770
Not just the longest stealth suspension, but also the longest suspension period. She already broke Zaion's record for most consecutive days suspended, and is rapidly approaching her record for most cumulative days suspended.

>>68117044
People usually use the median of peak CCV to get a more accurate representation of what a streamer is actually getting on a day to day basis as it mostly eliminates the influence of those one off big streams. But for some reason that guy is using averages instead. By median of peaks for December NijiEN is...
Shu - 3541
Elira - 3067
Luca - 3033
Ike - 3033
Pomu - 2967
Selen - 2687
Fulgur - 2445
Enna - 2444
Vox - 2376
Meloco - 2372

So the top 10 is basically even when you remove the influence of one off big streams, half and half male female with very little difference between the CCV of top males and top females.

>>68093048
When was last time YOU streamed?

>>68117139
Homostars already exists though

>>68126816
I went to work just yesterday. It's not my fault my boss isn't a psychopath that wouldn't even let me fucking quit.

>>68108385
Who?

>>68093048
I believe that with every day, her neck grows one inch longer

>>68093048
the good graduate young,
only evil lasts

>>68131249
>the good graduate young,
>only evil lasts
Objectively untrue and Selen is paying her karma for the lie during the Zaion incident. Selen-chan, if you're reading this know that you've paid for all the evils you've enabled - from now on live your life honestly and always to do what is good and fair.

>>68131711
Zaion had nothing to do with this and probably had no beef with Selen, don't drag her into this

>>68133189
Had to double check and you're right, the post is WAY before the whole Zaion fiasco. My apologies to Selen-dono.

>>68133189
The fag literally used Fubuki, why respond to bait?

>>68133952
I just don't want Sayu to get more shit than she already gets for stuff that she has no relation to. Every time Niji does a yab she already gets trashed just because people attribute it to her or mention her in some way and the sisters start attacking her reflexively and I'm tired of having to defend her all the time

>>68096217
No, Hajime beats her. In both cases the actual suspension was probably shorter though, but the length was extended because Hajiki is a lazy faggot and Gundou didn't want to come back.

>>68134244 (me)
Not to mention all the bullshit misinformation and rrats they keep spouting, it takes so much effort to refute all that crap every time

>>68110263
It's typical behavior for victims of abuse.

>>68135677
I think a lot of the differing opinions about NijiEN more just come down to the members and what they want to do as vtubers. If you go in wanting to do the normal vtuber things you are going to have very few issues there. Maybe the occasional issue with a cover or whatever but nothing major. If you want to do these ambitious projects that break new ground and do things differently your own way you are going to find yourself constantly butting heads with management and facing frustration with your projects getting canned and shit. Typical Japanese company mentality where they have their way of doing things and things will be done that way regardless of if the idea you have is better or not.

>>68113498
Gura wasn’t getting fucked by her employer everywhere she went

>>68137317
>can fuck Gura everywhere she goes
>doesn't
Yagoo confirmed gay?

>>68093048

Stealth suspension is kind at this point, this is a stealth graduation.

>>68138715
Nah, there are Vtubers that have gone for longer. If she doesn't make a peep in 365 days then we can say it's a stealth graduation.

>>68113498
Gura was away because she chose to be. Selen is away because she's getting fucked by Nijisanji.

>>68138715
It isn't stealthy when it is so obvious she got screwed over just because of one video

>>68093048
Dude, she streamed on her alt like a day ago.