/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>68048210
>Got compared with Kobo, Twitter called out their EN bias
What's this one about?

Don't worry, chammers has this shit covered

>>68048334
Never change, Chamois, never change.

>>68048210
That isn't "bullying"
Stop warping language.

and
>"Okay okay find.

>>68048281
They pointed out that Kobo got that shiny image when she reached 1 million but Mumei didn't. Hence they (Hoomans and Promise fans) think Cover has EN bias

>>68048210
>pull pre-made drawing from internal asset bank
>select font, create three blurbs in different colors
Yeah you really made them go all out

>Hololive trannies kicking and screaming over the most inane shit
You people are the biggest bitch babies ever

>>68048698
>can't even do that by themselves
TMD Total Manager Death

>>68048971
its funny after taking a break from holo for half a year and checking up to see this board to see how cancerous vtumor fans really are

>>68048408
mental illness
Now there is no difference between twitter and 4chan

>>68049170
In the present day it's really just fans of female "vtubers" i.e whores. Vtubing would be amazing without them

>>68048971
Someone's still mad about the FWMC mic muting, I see.

>>68049314
sorry who?

>>68049358
Godness the fucking seethe is palpable. No wonder you get absolute zero respect, pitifull.

>>68049314
>>68049579
NTA but what?

>>68049579
*Goodness
*absolutely
*pitiful
Also, I don't know why you're so angry at me not knowing about your whores. I don't watch females.

>>68049657
>>68049358
>>68049281
>>68049253
>>68049170
>>68048971
Aww, look at 'em go. holostars EN fans have no choice but to shitpost /here/ to entertain themselves because their oshis' streams are too boring, even for them. Here's a (You). Have fun seething about unicorns on twitter!

>>68048210
>homo being under the ID made sisters piss and shit their pant on twitter
>they fix the image
>moomer 1m sub being ignored
>holofags piss and shit their pant on twitter
>they give it a(week late) proper post
Yeah I think we know what to do the next time they ignore the girls.

>>68049924
Nice projection, threadwatcherchama.

>>68048210
If we unsubscribe en masse to get it below 1 million and then resubscribe, will they do it again?

>>68049645
NTA to your NTA but essentially during a quick summer outfit showcase where some of the EN girls were reacting to each group shown on screen. Both FWMC were ooooing and cheering each groups reveals until manstars showed up. Both then went silent until all the male groups were gone and then started talking again in the call. Unicucks took it as a supreme victory and claimed FWMC as their messiahs while homobeggers & twittertrannies declared them literally satan for daring to not be just as excited for males on screen. I personally couldn’t give a shit either way, but yeah that’s what happened.

>>68049924
I'm sure watching what other fanbases are doing is much more enjoyable than watching your dumpster fire of a branch imploding, nijisister.

>>68050117
>homobeggers & twittertrannies declared them literally satan
And funnily enough, I didn't see a single starmin on twitter (Holostarfan) actually call FWMC anything. They were too busy gushing over the Stars in the Hawaiian shirts. All the replies on the actual vod were from faceless profiles which leads me to believe atleast some of them were unicorns sockpuppeteering.

>>68050245
>All the replies on the actual vod were from faceless profiles which leads me to believe atleast some of them were unicorns sockpuppeteering.
It seemed pretty obvious to me it was just outsiders trying to stir shit up since it was picked up by some drama channels. I could see a few who were very obviously from /here/ but that's about it.

>>68050245
You need to understand homobeggers and twittertrannies are not actual Stars fans. They are clipfags who would much prefer making “le incel unicorns seethe” than actually watching streams.

>>68048408
>They pointed out that Kobo got that shiny image when she reached 1 million but Mumei didn't.
EN management does seem to have a pattern of being uninterested in HoloEN. Could be other things going on behind the scenes but management did the same thing in 2023 when they didn't make a single tweet for Ina's April Fools collab or her cover song.

Yesterday when they put out that little survey I called their EN social media manager an embarrassment and used this as an example so I'm going to give myself credit for getting them to do it properly

>>68048210
>Bullying actually works
>https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1752611355830731112
Yeah right, it totally works.

>>68048210
Meds. now.

>>68049170
Holy shit you absolutely triggered them

>>68054111
Holy shit unicorns are a fucking disease. Suisei has accomplished too much and been here to long too deserve this kind of behavior from fat terminally online incel trannies

>>68048210
Can someone translate this gibberish into a format that makes me care?
Thank you!

>>68049934
>>homo being under the ID made sisters piss and shit their pant on twitter
>under
You mean how they for some reason poorly cut the image in half only showing the ID members when doing the marketing for the Holostars live?

>>68055837
The mentally handicapped retard that idls OP thinks the HoloEN twitter account only exists to shill holostars and that they didnt make a tweet congratulating Mumei because they hate her

>>68054111
>>68054615
It's just that one indonesian retard Zoki with his multiple accounts, acting like it's plural is giving that subhuman way more credit than he deserves

get new material already

>>68056339
You’re probably replying to him.

>>68056716
so he's just pissed his "bullying" doesn't work? kek
how long until "it's not faaaaaaaiiiir!!"

Yes I AM a hooman.
Yes I WILL make sure my oshi is treated well and fairly by management.
How could you tell?

>>68048210
Fuwamoco had to make their own reddit posts for their birthday, otherwise management would have skipped them and posted about Homo3D.
And remember Gura's 3D Live? They had some old homo post up and refused to unsticky it until the last second.
For some reason management hates HoloEN, but the only thing I can think of that would cause them to hold such a massive grudge is that they were caught embezzling money and had to stop because of those meddling kids.

>>68048210
>blatant sub buyer who complains about her company's policies and her streaming obligations crawls her way to 1 million subs between constant hiatuses
>Cover is in no rush to celebrate it
I wouldn't even post that shit if I was Jap-sama

>>68053846
They were definitely told to focus more on the homos because they need the extra help

>>68057348
pic unrelated

>crybullying some faceless corporate account run by some unpaid jap intern because of a hecking jpeg

What a weird thing to victimize yourself over
Meanwhile the ID twitter never retweets ID streams until theyre over and the JP twitter mispells shit all the time and people laugh
ENfags are so fickle, oh man millions of subs, these girls are so oppressed and neglected. Theyre allowed to ignore their job for weeks at a time, hololive please do more to save them

>>68048210
>"bullying actually works"
>they still shove the females in with Holostars despite no one wanting that

>>68053846
>>68057935
I said this in the last thread that cried about this shit and I'll say it here too: Hololive has a million things going on at any given time. It's not impossible for some stuff to slip through the cracks. Especially since the EN page also shares and posts JP and ID stuff too for some reason. Besides, nothing that page has done to Hololive is even close to the blatant disrespect they showed for Holostars by badly cropping them out of their own Countdown.

>>68059506
Its a page thst exists to translate the main japanese account not appeal to your mental illness

>>68057018
Biggest problem there is thinking he can bully Suisei of all people. She don’t give a fuck.

>>68059512
>constant promotion of them is outweighed by cropping a picture that probably would have made more people tune in to the event
You’re joking right?

>be the marvel of vtubing
>bitch cry and whine about a twitter barely anyone follows compared to the girls twitters themselves
I wish I had time to bitch about something so minute everyday

>>68059512
Anon. That is really fucking stupid when we have seen them immediately make the same post for other holos. The fact it took 3 days for them to make a half passed attempt is the problem especially when Mumei WAS HOLDING AN ENDURANCE KARAOKE AND REACHED 1 MILLION LIVE ON STREAM AND THEN HAD A 2ND AFTER PARTY!

Don't defend management being shit. Even if it is a small thing you need to hold them to the flame or you end up with a Nijisanji situation where the fans defend the managers over the talents.

>>68060288
>management
Some 22 year old office worker runs the twitter or some shit, stop shitting your pants over something so insignificant when millions saw her own post

>>68060288
If you're trying to convey Mumei deserved any sort of laurel after the dogshit that were her 1M celebration streams, which were plural only because she had to save face after the absolute clusterfuck that was her "endurance" stream shorter than most current HoloEN streams, you need to GSH

>>68059940
If this happened to one of the girls you would have shat out your colons at Management.

>>68060288
Then criticize them genuinely instead of somehow mental gymnastic-ing your way into making it the Holostars' fault. Your fellow hololivefans shitting up the page trashing on Holostars for no reason isn't going to make anyone take you seriously

>>68050117 >>68049314
I watch holostars and I think that's based. Female talents should never occupy the same space of Male talents and vice versa. Everyone who opposes this is retarded and/or doesn't know how idol marketing works

>>68060765
This was to promote the company expo, if you cant handle basic PR reps then dont show up to work PR

>>68060608
I mean if we're going by quality logic then cover should never promote stars anywhere ever again

>>68061281
I agree. Cover should unironically fire the homos and the lazy whores to make room for more motivated cute girls.

>>68060710
Yeah but the difference is that no one gives a shit about holostars and management might have tricked some people into tuning in by editing them out. You need to think about the big picture, editing them out was a good idea until you retards made them put them back in

>>68050117
As someone who literally doesn't care if girls collab with boys or if girls don't collab with boys, I just found it to be extremely unprofessional of them to literally mute, just a quick throwaway of "and as you can see holostars is also represented, this is a holopro event" INTO a mute would be fine, it at least acknowledges that these people exist, work for the same corporation, and are part of the event. If you get called to promote an event and when a part of the event comes you just mute, that would be extremely unprofessional. Could be anything, a sponsor, a game reveal...

>>68048210
wee live in a moomciety

>>68061442
>as someone who doesn’t care if they collab
I don’t believe you

>>68059512
>a million things going on
So you're saying they should trim the fat so that they can keep up with a quality, in-demand product

>>68061410
Sorry, the disrespect isn't worth having a few hundred extra gross hololivefans watch the countdown and then promptly never care about Holostars ever again after that. Your kind needs to be gatekept outside the fandom.

>>68061524
>western vtubing
>in demand
Kek
Shits dying outside of Japan

>>68061524
Retard.

>>68061543
*our kind is the hololive fanbase, hololive fans don’t give a shit about them, that is not an insult, it is an objective fact

>>68061543
this all happens because some upper managers are creaming themselves at the thought of holofans opening up their wallets for holostars and vice-versa
they probably think they would unironically double their money

>>68060608
Not her fault she reached 1M too quickly for a proper endurance stream.

>>68061410
The fact that Hololive fans would be retarded enough to actually be tricked by something like that is very believable actually

>>68061442
Good girls ignore homos existence

>>68061498
well my oshi (and only EN vtuber I watch) is Ina, if I cared I'd have dropped her already. But at least, when put into an event where there's a male involved, she acknowledges their existence and that's literally enough for me. That's just being a good, empathetic human being, it's about acting with empathy and regards for fellow people even if you don't want to work directly with them in any projects. You don't need to collab with them, or directly interact with them, but you also don't need to act as if they literally were not a part of the same company as you.

>>68061681
More like they have a lot to hide

>>68061442
I agree. I don't hate them for it because I'm not a diseased catalog tranny, but it did come across as unprofessional. I wonder if they'll ever get any future gigs with promoting Holopro stuff now.

>>68061646
She didn't fucking prepare anything for her bought subs. She's done both karaokes and endurance streams many times before. Yes her fucking fault. This "endurance" shit would only mean something if she wasn't under 4K away from the magical 1M. Stop defending her taking lazy shits in your mouth.

>>68061597
I'm a hololive fan and I care about holostars and yes I buy merch from both branches and am members of people in both branches and I recognise I am a minority, but so are the people who scream about their oshis interacting with men. The stars will always be smaller because the core audience is more into the girls, but they can still compliment each other. I hope there is more collaboration between the branches so it eventually hard filters faggot unicorns so they finally go the fuck away and let everybody get along. Being upset you occasionally have to see a man is literally the most schizo take.

>>68061752
You have no clue how hard the average holotard willingly forgets yabs short of Mori 1.0 yab congas if that's an honest opinion.

>>68061825
This isn’t the place to discuss your scat fetish.

>>68061442
Yeah, whether you like the collabs or not it was an uncomfortable moment that came across as petty and kind of mean. My smile was not protected.

>homobeggars still at it
this will be a conflict until the end of time as long as they try to have some sort of crossover

>>68062151
You will never be happy nigger, this discussion isnt for manchildren like you

>>68062083
faggots don't deserve smiles

>>68062207
>me me me me me me me

>>68062195
>You will never be happy
Projecting much?

>>68062151
It will be a conflict until crossovers are so common that nobody gives a shit and unicorns leave the fandom. If you can't handle seeing a cartoon boy for five fucking minutes, it's not about "escapism" it's about "you are mentally ill"

>>68062285
No youre just another NPC on this board who says the same buzzwords and phrases ad nauseum, I know youre a miserable wank

>>68062207
incels don't deserve oshis

>>68062195
I'm not the one seething at FWMC lmao. If chuubas do something I don't like I just unsub. And guess what, I'm subbed to most of them, in fact I resubbed to a lot because of the respect they've shown.
>>68062331
>we totally don't want to turn it into niji!

>>68062384
we've got two

>>68062456
>If chuubas do something I don't like I just unsub.
No you sperg about it on 4chan for hours every single day

Sweet invisible gun thread

lol poor holostars, they truly are Schrodinger's Femboys. They are somehow constantly either huge faggot homos or they're literally fucking your oshi. It can't be both, folks. Gachikoi are wild lol

>>68062456
No actually you just shit your pants on this board for days at a time and think anyone cares because you think this board is your mental illness blog

>>68062514
now this is projection

>>68062540
Whats funny is even the japs think the retarded twitter LARPers are going to far with their hate campaigns

>>68059940
>constant promotion

You guys gotta stop confusing your nightmares with reality.

>>68062456
lol such a lazy and disingenuous incel argument. Niji doesn't suck because there are boys. Niji sucks because it's a black company dumpster fire run by retards with like maybe 4 talents that don't suck ass. All of cover's branches are on a whole different level.

People call it bias, the reality is nobody in HoloEN fucking does anything worth promoting lol
Wheres the cover songs? Wheres the original music? Sorry I need another 4 months to get back into even basically streaming

>>68062695
That and it has boys with former k-pop stans as fans

>defending a faceless corpo in any capacity
Opinion automatically discarded

>>68062861
>defending lazy freeloaders
Opinion discarded immediately

>>68062901
Good thing fans buy merchandise and watch ads and as such arent freeloaders :^)

>>68062901
yeah stars need to stop leaching off the girls

>>68062962
How do you watch ads on someone who doesnt stream

>>68048210
Congratulations to the Hololive_EN twitter account for posting about HololiveEN talent!

>>68063039
Hololive EN talent should start working :)

>>68063028
>vods dont exist
Bad faith speaker, typical of corpo bootlickers

>>68048210
it's not bullying, it's correction

>>68063149
Youre bragging about watching 25 Genshin ads on a vod?

>>68062695
I never said anything about it being "good" or "bad" you deranged -cel

>bad faith speaker moves the goal posts
Only a matter of time

Why does HoloEN need to share their social accounts (both Twitter and leddit) with the homoshits? They don't even collab anymore. Is it because the fags desperately need the Holo clout to keep their already meager viewership?
And if the leeching wasn't bad enough their mentally ill fans are attacking FWMC for DARING to do what they want and ignore the faggots.
That shit branch will always be a tumor to HoloEN no matter what.

>>68063392
Because they're incapable of reading the air and somehow think forcing people to look at shit they don't like will make them feel good and positive about it and their company

>>68063392
The company doesnt acknowledge your mental illness for something as minor as public relations on a dying platform such as twitter as something worth factoring in when it comes to growing their brands

Go write an email, write a 100 emails, they’ll all be discarded

>>68063392
tranny

>>68062795
Yeah but the stars are like night and day when you compare them to the weird fucking fujo-bait niji guys. They're just little guys, see?

>>68050809
>homobeggers and twittertrannies are not actual Stars fans.
Well, yeah, obviously. This is evidenced by the fact that they actually exist.

>>68063539
>>68063547
>definitely stars fans and not dramatourists

>>68063550
>They're just little guys
you're making me dislike them more

>>68060765
I like you :)

>>68057348
I could tell by your deformed, ugly face and body that has somehow been memed into the ideal through the power of sheer irony.

>>68063607
And youre definitely a mentally sound person with a dick who doesnt shit himself over other men

>>68062966
Where do you actually see this happening? Every time I have seen a collab the girls had a great time. That's the thing about gachikoi, the girls' actual happiness doesn't ever matter to them. They think of them as little talking fleshlights who should shut up and giggle on command.

>>68063550
Trying to be a weirdo pickme but shitting on the Nijiboys to try and appeal to catalogtrannies doesn't work you retard. They hate male vtubers, not for their content or what they do but because they are males and trannies hate men. Get it through your thick skull

>>68063550
>They're just little guys
that phrase has been permanently tainted

>>68063707
>Where do you actually see this happening?
starsEN not having their own Twitter and being shilled on the main HoloEN one
>wordswordswords
nigga I'm talking about leaching for clout not anyone enjoying collabs

>>68063392
"they don'tr collab anymore" lol what?

>>68063706
I enjoy a product and don't like it turning it into some other trash. Sorry this idea is too complicated for you.

>>68062331
You're not subtle, Nijisister.

>>68063921
Where is this change happening? In your head?

>>68048210
Gross, this thread smells like nasty unwashed fat women. Must be Stars fans around.

>>68063730
nah, that anon is right I hate the homos but nijis are just fucking garbage humans

>>68062724
>Wheres the cover songs?
Advent is right there bro, come on.

>>68063946
You're too retarded to realize you're proving my point to that, anon. Lmao.

>>68063730
>holo fans are the real trannies
>just ignore Finanas groomcord

>>68063943
It isn't because it's being protected by girls who understand and respect their audience

>>68060765
"female talents should never occupy the same space as male talents"

There is literally no reason to hold this opinion other than being mentally ill.

>>68062627
>even the japs
>implying western fans aren’t always worse
The obsession with idols and hatred of males is completely insincere. It’s western fans doing their misguided impression of what they think Japanese fans are like because they think it’s the correct way to engage with vtubers.

>>68050117
Watch it turn out that they just thought they were being polite and letting Altare talk about Holostars' presence at HoloExpo.

>>68048334
Congratsration

>>68064025
Doesn't disprove my point at all. Large proportion of fans of female vtubers are trannies. The consequences of having your hobby invaded by fucking love live fans

>>68063921
>some other trash
>same product but sometimes a boy is there

You are mentally ill.

>>68062331
>If you can't handle seeing a cartoon boy for five fucking minutes, it's not about "escapism" it's about "you are mentally ill"
>>68061973
>Being upset you occasionally have to see a man is literally the most schizo take.
If you can't handle seeing a cartoon girl avoid interacting with any males in the pursuit of their own comfort and monetary gain, it's not about "crossovers are fun" it's about "you are mentally ill"
Being upset you never have to see a man is literally the most schizo take.

>>68064109
>says others have mental illness
>acts like a complete schizo

>>68064041
Okay so how is this something to be feared? Sounds like you dont trust the vtubers

>>68064089
It's hilarious seeing the postMyth EOP newfags that never find out all the kino cross gender collabs their biggest oshis were a part of with either male vtubers from Niji or fleshstreamers.

>>68064219
Youre never going to convince COVID tourists theyre wrong, theyve gaslit themselves into thinking vtubing started in Spring of 2020

>>68063933
I don't like Niji at all, but I will agree I am not subtle. I want gachikoi and unicorns out of my fandom. Fuck them, they're subhuman filth that wants for burning.

>>68064173
Holy retard, even women instinctually understand this. Why do you think, EVEN among homo collabers, none of the holos have ever said they're in a relationship? Just a coincidence, right? They're not stupid, stop trying to play dumb and call everyone who's "in" on this understanding about not "cheating" as "mentally ill."

>>68064109
Fucking where Twitter? I genuinely never seen a tranny Hololive fan I'm sure some exist but they aren't as prominent as your making them out to be.
Plus Altare is the type of nigga to go in the women's bathroom

>>68063730
But I watch a fuckton of male content creators tho? From podcasts to brotubers playing some niche autistic game I really like. I don't like male Vtubers because they are talentless retarded manchildren and that's proved by the fact that they can only succeed by leeching from autistic womanlets or doing gaybait content for third world sisters.
Calling others troons while defending Nijimales is on a whole other level of delusional. Then again you watch the entertainment equivalent of pagpag.

>>68061973
Most Holos will never care about the Stars and will avoid them like the plague. Unicorns aren't the ones preventing them from collabing, Holos just gain absolutely nothing from talking to or interacting with a Star when there's already 100 Holomems they could collab with

>>68048334
Haachama is one of the greatest gifts we'll ever get from Hololive. A true unity Chad with the biggest red heart.

>>68064385
That's exactly my point, weirdo. You can still play dress up barbie with your pretend cartoon girlfriend even if the boys are there. They aren't going to start pairing off and getting kayfabe married. Just pretend its a girl one you don't like and ignore it and let the grown ups enjoy it normally. If you can't admit the TTRPG Calli ran for Kronii, Vesper and Dez was funny as fuck, I don't know why you are even watching this shit in the first place.

>>68064511
You dont get it bro theres a little psyop oppressing girls who make six figires
This twitter account its the reason why Guras mental illness has declines how could Cover do this

>>68061705
You act like they murdered your cat, it’s not that deep

>>68061973
But why? You have NijiEN and Vshojo for that crap. Hololive was the first to go hard on CGDCT and the reason why most people even got into Vtubing in the first place. So why the fact do you tards are so hellbent on turning HoloEN into NijiEN instead of just accepting for a different niche to exist?

>>68064600
Ok so how about this
>collabs with male
>unicorns cry for a day but move on
>don't have to deal with unicorns but also don't get their money
fair trade imo

>>68064629
It's insane seeing everyone screech at unicorns when it's 90% a monetary and career thing. I love Bae but she is never going to be the most subbed/watched promise member because male collabs will hard filter a lot of people. Kiara put it best when she just openly admitted she won't male collab because it would hurt her career.

>>68064600
The Kronii Vesper collabs were kino and I will die on this hill

>>68064763
Why has Bae passed Fauna
This argument alone kills you, you nitpicking numbertroon

>>68061705
Ina has only ever collabed on a single project with the boys, and she's shy as fuck, but she definitely handled it way more classy than Fuwamoco. I still like them, I know they have their reasons (related to sucking money from mentally ill men) but I wish they could have just given those poor fucks in holostars a half-assed "bau bau" or something.

Why are sisters do mad in this thread lmao, you people did the same thing with the new year's countdown when it was just cover trying to use the girls influence to give your homos some views by only having them in the picture

>>68064600
>they aren't going to start pairing off
but statistics about relationships show that the workplace is where most people hook up

>>68064845
Why are you so desperate for them to have female validation? It just makes them look pathetic as fuck, like the guys who grovel at a girls feet for a crumb of pussy.

Hololive is the only company ive ever seen where people look at some autistic guy playing dwarf fortress or another eating hot sauce and also be x100 less popular, yet somehow, they are ruining everything by sitting in their own little pocket. Hell, they even have their own mini 3d studio they use.

>>68064848
After Magni and Vesper retired they snapped

Fuwamoco ignoring all the homolovers creating drama was the best shit ever, look at all this rage

>OP thinks "4chan bullying" accomplished something relevant to a major vtuber corporation
tortanic.jpg

>>68048334
Based

>>68064824
I don't give a fuck about numbers I literally said I'm a brat. Fauna has taken 25 breaks while Bae has grinded like a maniac and gotten song collabs with numerous huge JPs and despite that she still has less viewers than everyone else in Promise and only has more subs than Fauna.
My point is that it doesn't matter how good the actual content is male collabs hurt audience, growth, and SC/merch revenue. There is a monetary incentive to not male collab.

>>68064905
What workplace nigger? The discord chatroom with managers?
Whose transatlantic cock is fucking your oshi?

>>68064730
My oshis are in hololive. I like cover as a company. I buy the merch and have memberships. I'm not going anywhere else. Hololive has always had collabs with men. The current meta of making a big fucking deal about it is the result of mental illness. Nobody should care if their favorite cartoon person sometimes speaks to boys. That is mentally deranged behaviour, it's not a niche. It's like diaper fetish porn.

>>68065014
Youre not a hololive fan youre a numbertroon with a headcanon like the rest of the apes, also youre such a big bae fan, wow those 2 collabs a year, what a filter

>>68060765
This is definitely the best post in this shitty thread

>>68065021
I only mentioned workplace because homobeggars love using the argument that male and female vtubers are "just coworkers"

>>68065100
Yeah because it highlights how EOPs dont know what the fuck idols are, they know the mental illness version this board created

>>68065091
She brought up Roberu as her oshi in her debut stream newfag

>>68064959
I think it's more of a management problem ever since that autistic Omega lore comic posted before their debate

>>68065150
Based, winning son is great

>>68065150
Everyone likes Roberu
Take your mask off numbertroon, its slipping with your recycled talking points

>>68064748
Yes, absolutely, that's fine. We need more diverse and sustainable revenue strreams for the girls than sad mentally ill men. Smaller individual investments by larger numbers of more stable fans, sponsorships, new merch opportunities. Yes, I want unicorn money out of hololive very much so the girls can finally *actually* be free to do what they want. Did you not learn anything from Rushia?

>>68065151
“You want to watch females ASMR?” “Have these boys instead, they do ASMR too.”

>>68061442
Keep crying tranny, nobody owes your homofaggots a damn thing

>>68065257
>freedom means whatever I want the girls to do

>>68065289
Anon learns what capitalism is

>>68064938
It isn't "female validation" it's normal professional behaviour. If someone did this at ytour workplace they would be fired.

>>68065151
You mean the idol companies that have no dating rules (恋愛禁止条例)? Those ones?

>>68065233
Holy fuck you're retarded
I like Roberu and the Stars, I'm explaining why most girls don't male collab as it filters a lot of big spenders and hinders their growth, not because they're scared of unicorns screeching into the void on this board

You EOP newfags would've popped a blood vessel if you were here during the Subaru Miamoto collabs lmao

>>68065362
Bae is in the upper echelon of superchats in hololive
You havent seen a stream in 3 years numbernigger

>>68065257
>Did you not learn anything from Rushia?
Don't be a bpd whore?

>>68065257
>don't get their money
>a corporation making a decision that does not result in increasing their profits
doomed to fail
sorry bro just how it is, just enjoy the show while it lasts

>>68065257
Why do you think men want to watch a woman be terrible at games for hours again?

>>68065404
Well, yes, that too actually.

>>68065399
Hololive itself fostered this. They were Nijilite back then. They PURPOSELY changed expectation. No one cared back then because there was no expectation. You wouldn’t cry over a Vshojo girl doing male collab.

>>68061705
>That's just being a good, empathetic human being, it's about acting with empathy and regards for fellow people
You need to go the fuck back to your hugbox redditard

>>68065402
Look who knows all about numbers now

>>68065473
Because they're awesome? Hilarious? Cute? Talented? Loads of reasons, none of which is "because I need to pretend one of them might fuck me and nothing must ruin that immersion" unless you are very mentally ill.

ITT : Faggos justifying their conformed cuckholdry fetish.

>>68065257
Meanwhile Cover is heavily pushing wedding/valentines/date/xmas voice packs and have said that they’re the most profitable merch they sell.
>>68065521
Reminds me of Vei being pissed that her oilers left after she started dating Soda

ITT: niggers shitting themselves they have no argument so they post like women

>>68065579
There are bigger principles in place that idols defend and represent. If you don't care about that, it's fine, but you shouldn't try to destroy that for people who appreciate and value those things.

>>68065550
Yeah because i watch streams and can smell a retarded faggot such as yourself
Update your script troony

>>68065014
Bae has less viewers than Fauna because most of Fauna streams are FOTM and Minecraft while most of Bae streams are JRPG Stream #435.
Also different vtubers have different target audience sizes, nobody in this site takes this obvious fact into consideration. Fauna inherently appeals to more people so she has more viewers, simple. Using your same argument Kronii should have even worse numbers than Bae but she doesn't.
Not saying that collabing with males will not affect your viewership, but you are giving it more weight than it actually has.

>>68065257
>so the girls can finally *actually* be free
unless it's FWMC ignoring the fags, then you'll screech about them being unprofessional and make seething bait threads on cooldown
>Did you not learn anything from Rushia?
you're such an obvious Twitter troon tourist lmao. Do you really think Rushia was fired because of unicorns and not the fact that she has obvious mental issues? Proved by the fact that even outside of Hololive she keeps getting involved in retarded drama and lawsuits?
>Yes, I want unicorn money out of hololive
And I want you mentally ill Twitter troons to go back to your shithole while actual fans can just keep supporting the girls and enjoy their wholesome hobby.

>>68065579
>one of them might fuck me
Ok sister, that's your idea of unicorn motivation?
Holy shit, stop talking about things you have 0 clue about, don't think a single unicorn ever expects that, the motivation is pretty simple, unicorns want to support someone they like, or just want to watch cute girls on stream without wondering if they are sleeping with other dudes with your money.
It's all about peace of mind, as soon as a male is involved it's over, also on top of that vtuvbers track record is TERRIBLE, there is always a cuck scandal or sex pest behaviour behind most homo collabs, there was an indie girl recently that said people do use collabs as speed dating behind the scenes.

>>68065906
>wholesome hobby
Its always funny to see the mentally ill cry

>>68065257
>We need more diverse and sustainable revenue strreams for the girls than sad mentally ill men.
Mentally ill men build the whole industry, faggot, you're the one that needs to get the fuck out, we were here first and without us the whole thing crumbes to nothing.

>>68065925
Lol thats a lot of words to out yourself as a dramanigger who is chronically online
Do yourself and unfollow brown vt memes on twitter and youll realize vtubing isnt a giant orgy

>>68065809
Counting every SC on those streams you're watching numberfriend?

>>68048210
>bullying
???
They have done it for every 1 million, even the faggots reaching a 10k.

>>68066057
watch bae in an hour, oh wait you wont because Roberu was mentioned 3 years ago

>>68065828
Bae was behind her genmates from the beginning, she's worked very hard to get to where she is now but she started from a huge deficit compared to the other girls.
My whole point is that the girls who don't male collab appeal to more people as Kiara has openly said on stream before

>>68066031
>vtubing isnt a giant orgy
The whole world is exactly that, I wish it wasn't but women cleary cannot ever live without some dick, just by your fierce defense it proves that very point, it's a supreme sacrifice to not suck dick.

>>68066160
Youre a fucking retard nigger, Baes debut months sucked dick because of her stupid fucking voice and her trying to be some sort of kayfabe shit was not
Not because of this everlooming fan fiction you decided to invent in 2022 you dumb nigger

>>68066104
surprised you don't forget to breathe
I haven't said anything bad about Bae at all you moron and I will be watching as I usually do

>>68049314
They didn't mute their mic retard, they just stopped speaking. Why would they even need to mute themselves?

>>68048210
>bullying the Holostars account into shilling the girls
Why are Hololive fans so toxic??????

>>68066104
>Roberu was mentioned 3 years ago
She just did a homo shill stream, she is incorrigible, I forgave Kronii and even Mori, don't act like we're holding a grudge, act right and collect the rewards.

>>68066259
Whatever troony, post your fan fiction in her thread and see how normal you look compared to her actual fans

>>68059512
>Hololive has a million things going on at any given time. It's not impossible for some stuff to slip through the cracks.
Cover has 500 employees so I am skeptical when people say HoloEN gets overlooked. Ina rarely hosts collabs and the April's Fools collab was the biggest collab she hosted in 2023 but didn't get a single tweet from the EN staff. Her recent cover song was ignored by her manager and her outfit merch was delayed for over a month. After her 3 month radio silent "health" break management was far colder. The same thing is happening with Mumei and her 1 million subscriber celebration was reluctantly tweeted by management only after several days.

The homotroons turning this thread into a cry session for no particular reason is pretty funny.

>>68048210
I’m glad unicorns can proudly express their discontent with Holo management bias. Holostar fans are worthless and is actively trying to hurt the girls. They want to force every girl to do a one on one collab with the homos. There was no talent choice. You either support homos or you’re the enemy

>>68066346
Your forgiveness is worthless, no one cares about your opinion on this board. You dont superchat, you dont buy merch, you have no value

>>68066243
>Refuses to see what is clearly in front of his face.
Nigga... Holizontal failed hard, even Regloss failed hard from them following and interacting with homos before debut.
There is plenty of proof that homos are poison for holo, why Bae would be any different. She had the best model and was supposed to be the top of her gen, her connections to homos killed her potential.

>>68065962
It is. Just a bunch of cute girls having fun and making a fuckton of money, with a passionate community providing high quality fan content.
And here you are seething and acting like the girls are slaves and said passionate community is just a bunch of mentally ill schizos because enjoying cute girls makes you troons insecure.
Meanwhile the rival corpo that is specifically appealing to YOU and doing what you say is imploding with constant drama and abused talents leaving en masse.

>>68066508
Wow youre a cockobsseed retard nigger and a dramatourist and a catalog poisoned retard rolled into one

>>68066548
Lol didnt read, wipe your tears

>>68066397
I'm actualy the only one superchatting daily between the 2 of us, I'm the real target audience sister.

>>68066612
Post your receipts so I can laugh
And if its monopoly money Ill laugh even harder

>>68066555
I'm stating facts, you're malding without a single argument, keep on it, the girls already saw the writting on the wall, at least they are smart enough to see that, except for Bae.

>>68066508
There is LITERALLY one homofag streaming right now for 400 viewers. Beggars are just too clueless and they'd rather spend hours arguing about numbers being wrong or them evil unicorns instead of supporting the talents. What a joke.

>>68066679
Your headcanon isnt a fact

>>68066555
>homobeggar seething because unicorns won
Many such cases

>>68066555
>Buzzword cope because you have no rebuttal
Looks like homosisters lost again

>>68048334
I wonder what a person fluent in english like haachama thinks about the fact she always has to pretend to be retarded because her reddit fanbase expects that.

>>68066742
You just spoke in buzzwords

>>68064653
I agree with you, I do not believe FWMC are mean girls, I do believe they acted more in fear than anything else, but again, as you said, just acknowledge they are there, preferably in a non-condescending tone, and that's it. You don't need to be as enthusiastic as Ollie or Bae would, I am not asking for that (and most reasonable people aren't asking for that), just be, y'know, polite and professional?
>>68064938
If they did this to a female talent they had any bickering behind the scenes, it'd be every bit as unprofessional. You really don't need to be throwing gender at everything. Fuck me, feels like interacting with humanities uni students.

>>68066609
Sorry, my bad for trying to have a normal discussion with a troon. Cope and seethe sis, your homoshits are a failure and unichads won.

>>68066649
Your homos will still not get views sister, regardless of your laughter or cries, try farting and bleeding too maybe that one wll change things.

>>68066690
It's all a vocal minority can do.

>>68066508
>Holizontal failed hard
True. That being said, most of the big holos nope out of it

>Regloss failed hard from them following and interacting with homos before debut.
They failed because they weren’t Hololive proper. They should’ve been labeled as Gen 7

>There is plenty of proof that homos are poison for holo
Proof?

>She had the best model and was supposed to be the top of her gen
Kinda subjective

>>68066794
Wheres the superchats big guy? Too afraid to share the ARS? Your forgiveness sure must be worth a lot! Sad!

>>68065653
>Reminds me of Vei being pissed that her oilers left after she started dating Soda
Sounds hilarious is there any clip of that?

>>68066849
>proof
ADVENT

>>68066690
I don't watch Flayon solo streams. I'm waiting for Hakka, then for Armis. Just because I like the boys doesn't mean I want to watch every stream the branch does.

>>68066771
No one in the homostars fanbase would care. Same way no actual hololive fans cares about this nothingburger. They aren't scared they are just indifferent like 99% of hololive fans.

>>68066913
Numberniggers dont realize Flayon carved out for himself and hes fine being where he is, they look at a chart

>>68066891
Advent debuted after a long wait for Gen 3. They bring back dead and former fans. Them no collabing with males isn’t the reason they’re successful

>>68066771
NTA but the homostars are pathetic worms crawling in the dirt who cause problems for any girl foolish enough to acknowledge their existence, so Fuwamoco ignoring them was totally justified and morally correct.

>>68066852
Stop being obessed by my superchats tranny, already told you, your homos wont get views regardless.

>>68066968
It must be weird to live everyday living in your own fan fiction
Vtubing outwest is dying, advent didnt change shit

>>68066943

>>68066968
>every homo shit does bad
excuses
>every girl only thing do good
excuses

HOLY COPE, LMAO

>>68067016
Aww look at the fragile snowflake, I guess you really dont support the girls after all since youre so embarrassed by being asked to show proof
Sad!

>>68066968
Yeah, there's the homocope.

>>68067033
>Vtubing outwest is dying,
Correct. Everything not associated with Hololive is reclining hard in the West. Hololive English didn’t grow but it didn’t shrink either.

>>68066943
>>68067035
>448 viewers
>he's doing fine

>>68067085
What about you sis, homos are waiting for your view, the poor things are unde 1k right now don't you pity them?

>>68067134
Yes you can make a living streaming to 500 people, many on twitch have done that for over 10 years numbertranny

>>68067171
>Doing fine
>Axel have to beg for a PS5

>>68067140
I dont watch holostars nor am i a fan im waiting for you to show your loyalty or drop the LARP, troon

>>68067171
That's sad brother. when your coworker gets 30k, you should get a hint that nobody wants you.

>>68067171
Lol alright sis stop coping here and go watch your flop.

>>68067171
>Yes you can make a living streaming to 500 people
But can Flayon? Probably not.

>>68066757
>fluent in english
is there proof of this somewhere that isn't ">he doesn't know" and ">do your reps"

>>68066925
I do wish they had joined Bae in laughing at Bettel wearing gloves to the beach. Making fun of Bettel is pretty much a bonding experience.
But it isn't that deep. I don't watch Fuwamoco anyway, so although I was momentarily disappointed I won't hold a grudge or anything.

>>68067197
>we dont watch holostars
>watches holostars

>>68067220
>troon homobeggar calling others troon
that doesn't help the cause sister.

>>68067220
>I dont watch holostars nor am i a fan
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>68067291
Eat your pagpag for dinner and retweet brown vt memes and dont pretend youre worth more than the sticks above your hut

>>68067276
>Watches Homos
What’s next? You’re gonna say I watch Nijis liver failure because I used a Selen image?

>>68067383
You clearly stated something a homo watcher would know

>>68067337
Call me canibal and hitler too, what else? doesn't change any facts, Advent and rest of EN will still ignore homos.

>>68067430
Okay cool, and youre still poor, once again youre worthless, pennyless, and your mother likely pays your phone bill

>>68067398
NTA but that was a bait thread topic like a year ago. It doesn't mean that anon watches shit. It only means he is a bait thread reader.

>>68067494
>Bait
>Implying it’s false

>>68067337
Ironic considering that dogshit page and every other third world dramatuber shills the homos and shits on idol culture.

>>68067337
brown SEA chuubas are the ones who colab with males

>>68067274
These are hardcore otaku/idol weeb hags who are big hololive fans and fans of other indie female vtubers. They sincerely would not get that. It's not them being malicious in any way, it's just their tastes. I think it is better to be left to Bae who is actually familiar with them.

>>68066346
I think there was a response for people like you
Selamat pagi!

Can’t wait for SEA anons ITT to do a complete 180 when they introduce StarID

>>68067479
Like I said, I do more than you, proven by the direction they are going.
Money talks.

>>68067659
You literally cry when asked for proof, so based on that alone Im going to continue to assume youre broke as fuck
Poor little boy
No merch

>>68067629
Great response SEAfriend, care to never reply to me again?

>>68067655
>StarID
lmao, they'd be 2views and on top of that the latest homo gen is like 3/4 SEA anyway.

>>68067655
they've been buckbroken and colonized 2x over they will welcome them with open arms

>>68067710
As you wish my brown sir, I myself wouldn't waste anymore time with a primate like yourself.

>>68048210
Now if only people would bully her into streaming like she's supposed to

>>68067827
This

>Homobeggar sister called out
>Cry and call everyone SEAnig
Every time

>>68067827
Sorry asking the girls to do their job is anti behavior and not very unichad of you

>>68048210
Mumei just tweeted a response to this
https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1753550400207384985

>>68067892
Just sit back and enjoy the infighting

Quick reminder.
This thread was raided by a Phase Cuckers larping as a Nijikek larping as SEA anons larping as Holofags larping as Homobeggars

>>68068154
we just call those the people who post in the number thread

>>68067265
It's called having an IQ greater than 100.

>>68068246
translation: "i don't have proof"

>>68068328
Hey, 80 IQ faggot, this isn't reddit. No one is going to give you an academic citation for things that aren't academia, the fact that idiots like you were unfortunately sent to university is more an indictment of the failure of the system than you being a special boy. Now shut the fuck up and learn to punctuate and capitalize your sentences, you blithering newfaggot moron.

Permaban anyone on this board who complains about "unicorns" or "homobeggars"
By far the most annoying culture war on this board and these two groups of people will just talk past each other and call each other numberfags when they're just different types of numberfags both from third world countries
God please give us flags and thread IDs. Literally no reason why these don't exist here yet. It's insane how much even just flags can help because they help you realize that sometimes it's literally one or two people spamming shit repeatedly. Shoutout to der chikaner, DSL, bahamas Tua fan, and many other board schizos on /sp/ who become easy to mentally filter out once you recognize them. We should be able to do this on /vt/ too instead of letting people fight wars against invisible "sisters" and "unicorns".

>>68068503
>this isn't reddit
>unironically calls me a "blithering moron" and complains about lack of punctuation/capitalization in casual forum posts
i dont even really need to say anything lmao it's obvious you're a miserable and unfuckable nightmare of a human being as-is

>>68068547
This but unironically.

>>68068547
Youre speaking gospel but the people in charge hate this board and it likely has the highest janny turnover on the entire website

>>68068547
Base and true
>t. Beggar or Unicorn depending on mood

>>68068547
Unicorns did nothing wrong and are the rightful owners of the board, homobeggars are the invasors that need to be expelled.

>>68068547
range ban all SEAnigs and bomb anyone found trying to VPN their way around

>>68068547
Nah, just ban homobeggars
>give us flags
Also do this

>>68067560
Bait doesn't have to be false. It just means its a trap. Sometimes its a real worm, but it still has a hook attached.

>>68053846
Its also coincidentally always bias against the EN girls who are openly against male collabs

>>68067612
Yeah fair enough. It could have been funny instead of just kinda sad though. But I don't fault them, not everyone is good at improv.

>>68064748
>cry for a day but move on
Well, that’s absolute bullshit. Unicorns still seethe over Kronii to this day and if she collabs with a Holostar again they would continue throwing a fit. Grown men that behave like actual toddlers.

>>68068547
probably the best post I saw all week.
>flags
yes please

>>68064845
People tend to forget that Ina has never had an issue bringing up Holostars/Tempus. She drew Shien on stream before. But, as for Fuwamoco, I agree. If you want to target a specific audience that’s fine but then keep your asses off streams that you know are going to have Stars representation if you’re too cowardly to say a word.

>>68068328
NTA but I recall Coco saying something along the lines of her english being better than what she lets on and the Cover she did on her RM has an arguably better english pronunciation than her Holo songs, but first hand proof of her not spigging but speaking is, to my knowledge, not in circulation.

>>68053846
Cover treats the EN girls like a fucking plague, ESPECIALLY Myth and CouncilRyS/Promise. They seem to be nicer to Advent but treat the previous girls as if they were a mistake.

>>68048210
You live in a world of your own creation, anon.

>>68048210
Wait, they really did it with no picture the first time??? I had no idea
I’m not even an EN fan and that’s pretty fucked, they always do pictures like this for 1M milestones

>>68053846
The person who manages the twitter account for EN is the same one who ran the subreddit and they were already well known for forgetting to sticky HoloEN threads but being punctual for the homos

>>68068328
Linguist and long time Haaton here
There was a minecraft stream I think around the time before or after she made the church for Watame, and it was possibly either a VC or collab stream (or maybe even a Watame stream) where she said something like she heard Haachama talking to her dad or relative in full English. So, a few years ago Haachama would use English a lot more than she does now
Now that she’s been back in Japan for a while she hasn’t really gotten to use it as much

>>68070620
Ame and Kronii have been strong advocates for Holostars but they were having issues for most of 2023. The mood in HoloEN didn't really improve until after that December management meeting. Kiara wouldn't have considered graduation unless something bad was going on that was burning everyone out. Cover allowing talents to commission models and outfits won't be the only contract related change in 2024. My guess is the life changing announcement that Mori hinted at will be another major change though management will likely not announce it until after HoloFes.

>>68048334

This is the most retarded fight I have ever seen even for 4chan standards