/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>67833153
Considering how active she was before and during Niji I'm more surprised people didn't expect this to happen sooner.

>"Bigger"

If selen was his "friend" he should contact her privately lmao. Then again I will never defend kurosanji so based I guess.

Pretty sure rpr can contact her with ease

>>67833153
>friend
Just send her a DM? But props to him for adding more fuel to the fire

>>67833153
>friend
More like his blood bag

>>67833153
Hahahahhaha

>>67833153
Did Selen commit suicide?
Last time she was heard of was when she was in hospital or some shit and having a fight with the management.

Nijisisters, it's not going away. What do we do?

>>67833153
Please be dead please be dead please be dead please be dead please be dead please be dead

>>67833427
Kill yourself instead sis

>>67833153
>400 favs
>big

>>67833153
Based. Don't let kurosanji get away with stealth terminating Selen.

Uh oh, the NDF won’t like this.

>>67833258
bigger than (You)

>her friends are even starting shit on twitter
Damn did RIku actually fucking cartel'd her.

>>67833261
>>67833287
you are under the impression that he doesnt have selens blessing in that tweet

>>67833153
She's long gone. Kurosanji just can't cut her off because they have already lost 3 members this january

kek retard gonna get banned from collabing with other vtuber companies, good riddance, i bet he also gets dropped from his job

Uh, sisters, he can't even contact her privately?

>>67833153
>reply at only 454 views
>immediate screenshot
OP is rpr kek

>>67834307
More like based for willing to potentially burn bridges for a friend

>>67834321
he is getting ghosted why is he surprised bet its not his first time

>>67834321
riku literally killed her

>>67834321
That's the least believable part of his story, Selen is a single phone call away and it's pretty much impossible he doesn't know her apex alt. Contacting Selen is the simple part, he probably already did, has heard Selen's side and is now making it public to make Niji take action and/or be held accountable.

>>67834445
not complainig he is gonna get blacklisted so its all ok i guess obese people stick together

>>67834825
>blacklisted by niji

>>67834825
>blacklisted by niji
And nothing of value was lost.

>>67833258
Yes a frequent Homostar collaber is big enough to draw attention in the scene. Tribal shitposting aside, this matters as not just the fans anymore but other streamers too.

>>67834908
>>67835112
this guy's entire shtick is getting into jp servers that include nijis and following e-celebs around in a desperate hunt for views
if he got blacklisted his career would be over

>>67834825
doesn't matter, the twitch chuubas he usually collabs with have 3x the ccv, and towa 10x.

>>67834307
You think vshojo who has poached from niji twice and possibly more cares about that. He only collabs with vshojo and holostars and holostars are shitters anyways. Nijien has such a garbage rep for hurting their own livers so much that every other streamer, and even other companies, mock them with impunity.

>>67833332
Las time I checked she was playing apex and doing emotes and then radio silent.

>>67834908
>>67835112
surely only niji and not every event that includes nijis
>>67835142
this, that mouthbreader isnt relevant enough

>>67834736
>>67834272
Based if true

She's in the fucking hospital you fags

>>67835260
>>67835328
i only know that retard ruins vcr and sutogra
hope he gets blacklisted so i can watch in peace

>>67835606
Retard

>>67835476
depends if you believe that holofag narrative about kson being blacklisted from those events because of niji

>>67835604
>Niji takes all of Selen's social media to silence her until graduation.
>Gets rpr to speak out and make the situation public
Nijikeks, you get what you fucking deserve

>>67833258
he's bigger than a vtuber he's a competitive fps player.

>>67833153
"hey selen, how are you doing?"

>>67835820
idk what narrative is that cause i dont watch her but why would other companies let their employees work/collab with a dramafag

She's in the hospital again if this guy is not larping as a close friend. She wouldn't ghost anyone when people are worried.
Or maybe she's intentionally fanning the flames

>>67833153
>Bigger
You mean in body size?

>>67833258
Come on man, you can hate him, but he IS bigger than most

>>67834321
Well that's another rat killed quickly
>>67833261

>>67835606
She was discharged long ago
And we know she's been playing Apex and stuffs off-stream

>>67834825
>blacklisted
>by Niji
>oh nyo
Anon it's not 2022 anymore

...who?

>>67833287
I think that is the point, add fuel to the fire

>>67837343
This
Maybe this would be of worry if they werent nuking their public relations

Why do you need to invent fantastical stories about 4D chess moves? Online friends don't usually have each other's private contact details, especially when public channels are sufficient. Giving out your phone number is an opsec nightmare for the little benefit it gives.

>>67833153
This is what needs to be done. Make it trend and spam the other talents chats/SC's with it until management is forced to speak up. I'm willing to bet Niji is planning on stalling the news for MONTHS which is why rpr is speaking out.

>>67833153
>Bigger vtubers
Some random Fleshtuber Fps Twitch streamer

>>67838496
based niji management

>>67838279
She doesn't need to give him phone or anything. Her rm account would be enough for a contact. And if they really never talked through those, her rm is probably in contact with other notable Apex players who could get them back in contact.

Thanks rpr
free material to cover

>>67837224
>>67833823
>size shaming

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1752179999246000425
The replies to them selling Selen merch

>>67839099
>Screaming into the void
I doubt niji management even checks the replies and this hashtag will lose traction in like 2 days anyway when people stop caring.

>>67839099
One more hour...

>>67839164
>this hashtag will lose traction in like 2 day
sounds like a challenge

>>67838897
Why is this dramafag so obsessed with Nijisanji?

>>67839557
because nijisanji is a neverending drama factory
he just consumes the content you give him freely

>>67839557
They tried to kill his career, but they failed. Now he's on his revenge arc.

>>67839557
Man if the same house burned down every week in my town I’d be exploiting it too.

>>67833153
>Bigger

Her coworkers needs to speak up

>>67839785
Bro you can just increase your volume if you can't hear the stream.

>>67839557
Well first of all, Anycolor sent false claims to his videos and got his channel on the edge of being deleted (since YT shoots first and asks questions later) and secondly... Niji has at the very least a minor yab weekly, and people click on Niji drama so it's a win win situation for him.

>>67839824
Funny but unironically now

>>67839740
in perimeter area and volume

>>67839557
he covered holo dramas too, or any other one really. It just happens that one house burns brighter than the other.

>>67833287
Niji locks them out of their accounts when they are stealth suspended. He probably already did.

>>67833260
>>67834321
I'm sure rpr knows how Selen's rm is doing, however the point of the tweets is to put pressure on kurosanji to do something about Selen.
Also I read that 2nd tweet in his voice.

>>67833287
anon you dont need personal phone number to be friends, they could have talked on discords/twitter dms for several hours a day off stream and never felt the need to ask for her facebook account/personal phone number.
Regarding her apex alt, she only played it once a year to queue with her nijiEN low rankers. Rpr is not in this list.

>>67839557
Well first of all, Anycolor sent false claims to his videos and got his channel on the edge of being deleted (since YT shoots first and asks questions later) and secondly... Niji has at the very least a minor yab weekly, and people click on Niji drama so it's a win win situation for him.

>>67834736
Agreed. Obviously they can contact each other, there's no magic wall stopping him from it. This is a public-facing decision he's making.

>>67833153
oh boy rpr gonna get some grotesque spammer from nijidrone in xitter, nijidrone avert your eyes!!

>Tomorrow is January 31
>Selen's account's last tweet was December 31

>>67840142

He can't contact Selen but he can possibly contact Dokibird. Technically not a lie

>>67839926
Retard he meant her other account

>>67833260
so you manlets can start crying about males? kek

>>67840338
they locked her out of the other account too anon
3 weeks since last tweet.

>>67834908
Getting blacklisted by Nijisanji is a badge of honour at this point

>>67839557
Why are people here so obsessed with dramafags?

>>67834908
Getting blacklisted by Nijisanji is a badge of honour at this point

>>67834321
Management controls all her socials, so ofc he can't contact Selen

>>67839557
>why is the milkman so obsessed with cows

https://www.twitch.tv/rprx/clip/AbnegateTastyGnatPeteZaroll-oBEHLSXcA05oYJOn?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time
BASED BASED BASED

>>67833153
As Selen released the cover without permission, Nijisanji asked "Did you release the cover because you lacked permission, or did you lack permission because you released the cover?"
Selen simply replied "Nah I'd reupload", for unbeknown to the Nijisanji, Selen didn't just upload the cover alone, and has tweeted dragoons to reupload the video as they wish.
But she didn't know 2 key things:
1. Always bet on the corpo
2. Nijisanji knew Selen remaining streams reached zero
Stand proud Selen, you were strong

>>67840576
Even her non Niji ones? isn't that illegal?

Please somebody think of Luca and Millie!

>67840648
it wasn't funny or clever in the other thread either

If gura streams more than your oshi it's time to move on tbqh.

>>67840780
>>67840648

>>67834825
He has publicly shat on Niji and talked about how he doesn't want to collab with them

>>67839989
>the point of the tweets is to put pressure on kurosanji to do something about Selen
Pretty sure they already took care of her

>>67841619
what?

>>67841659
She's dead, Jim

>>67833153
turns out rpr is not as close to selen as nocturnal, wtf
how the fuck does rpr not have a private contact channel with her????

>>67841962
leech european neckbeard

>>67840650
Why did I say "Selen" instead of "her RM" or anything else? Why does rpr say "Selen" instead of "her RM" or anything else?

Please use your head

>>67841962
You're retarded jfc

>>67842051
https://twitter.com/rpr/status/1752305095981535553

>>67840604
Unironically based never thought I would be kneeling to a professional Apex player. 2024 is truly wild.

>>67842288
Or perhaps he wasn't telling the truth there and Selen herself greenlighted his original tweet.

>>67842288
selen is currently building out an epic redebut collab schedule with a ton of pro players but left out rpr
the real rrat might be that selen wants to go fleshy and rpr is too 2d for her now

>>67842379
>rpr asking for permission in the first place
this is more believable if he wasn't so retarded at reading the room that selen cut a collab with him short and cried afterwards.
probably the only such collab ever for selen. the only reason she's still "friends" with him is for the clout of having pro friends. he's a toxic piece of shit

>>67836867
If wants her to stay silent, she’ll stay silent kek.
Get hoisted by your own petards, you black company shitheads.

>>67838897
I can't wait for niji to die so these fags have nothing to cover

>>67833153
Do these people really have no idea about Nijisanji's stealth suspensions, even after what happened with Gundo and Zaion?

>>67840226

>>67839557
Kurosanji tried to false copyright strike his channel, he won on appeal with YouTube and he's been on a path of revenge ever since

>>67833332
All we know is she reported having an "accident" and her stay at hospital was confirmed. The fight was she very publicly went against management when they privated her new song cover. The removal was because of some permissions bullshit but Selen mega fucked up because the two things you don't do in a JP company are arguing with management and violating copyrights. Selen told her followers to infringe on the song's copyrights by reuploading it themselves. Nijisanji might be silent right now but you can be sure that this is as bad if not worse than Gundo making a joke about bean balling baseball players.

Baseball and copyrights are the two real religions of Japan.

>>67839557
The same reason why America nuked Japan twice after pearl harbor
If Japan had perhaps kept onto that cultural memory they would not have awoken the sleeping giant a second time and filled him with resolve

>>67840226
Imagine if she retardedly decides to stay with niji after all this. Then she also has to deal with shit like this tweet and have to lie to rpr about how she was "hospitalized" for a month and not suspended

>>67839923
sure, he covers them but he doesn't focus on them the same way he does Nijisanji because cover didn't try to have him killed

>>67842989
I don't like niji but come on man, your not in the minority if you say niji bad at this point lmao

>>67841619
I mean make a public statement.

>>67842288
Bro literally just check his follows.

>>67842989
>Career turn to shit
>have to find something to leech
>Thought of selen.jpg
>Acting like he care
>Profit
i kneel
LEECH GODS

>>67839557
It's free real estate man. Like a fat man in front of an all you can eat buffet.

>>67835201
most of the nijis who play apex worship apex pros you stupid mongoloid

>>67833258
Big enough to enter an invite only vcr server as an indie

>>67843217
>>67841996

>>67837224
Not bigger than Selen
Not bigger than Fulgur

rpr went to japan and hung out with vtubers/ecelebs irl
i don't fucking believe he doesn't have their contacts
i know his shtick was always being the "model vtuber fan" where he keeps his distance from his oshi, be a safe male, don't doxxfag, etc etc. but not having selen's contact or knowing where to find her rm twitter????? i don't fucking believe you. this is kayfabe for white boy

>>67843366

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2048020441?t=00h24m36s

lol
lmao

BLACK COMPANY
>BLACK COMPANY
BLACK COMPANY
>BLACK COMPANY

>>67843602
rpr called selen his oshi
towa is shambles

The shit thing is that Selen has battered wife syndrome and will go back to niji even tho she shouldn't.

>>67844276
If Nina's comments are accurate, most of the livers have been actively gaslit into having battered wife syndrome.

>>67839557
Nijisanji is damaging Selen's career by delaying her termination. Rpr will likely get blacklisted from collabs by publicly asking management why she has been radio silent for over a month. Things aren't looking for NijiEN when indie vtubers are no longer afraid of burning that bridge.

>>67835435
Some people said she is still playing I think and giving "status" updates via her Steam profile, it's just that her personal Twitter has also gone silent. She's likely been told to shut up by Anycolor.

>>67834275
I think probably what they're going to do is just keep her on indefinite hiatus until her contract expires, which will unfortunately probably be quite a few months still.

>>67844499
i can't think of anyone in niji that rpr actively collabs with nowadays. it's all vcr stuff

please Selen why won't you give me your personal contact information

>>67844756
projecting much?

>>67844628
>I think probably what they're going to do is just keep her on indefinite hiatus until her contract expires, which will unfortunately probably be quite a few months still.

I hadn't even considered this. Yeah, this is evil enough to be a Nijisanji plot

>>67843366
He didn't follow Selen's PL until after the Christmas drama. And she's forbidden from using that account anyway, she hasn't Tweeted or done anything except follow accounts since the 12th. He could probably use behind the scenes connections to get in touch with her, but I guess he went the route of making a public statement instead.

>>67833153
Selen!? There's no such thing as Selen! Selen is just a myth!

>>67844955
what's her incentive to not break her contract in that case? it's not like they took zaion to court or anything, and if she's already at the point of having to ask for rent money on throne it's gonna be a rough few months

>>67833153
>bigger vtuber
Literally who?

>>67833153
>bigger

>>67843094
okay list holo dramas in last 4 months that should be focus worthy outside of mel's termination
no, current michael x mafu drama doesn't count

>>67845338

>>67845194

>>67834736
Still technically true though. Even if he can contact her, he can't contact "Selen Tatsuki"

>>67844955
by the by, this already happened with Gundou.

>>67845526
funny reddit meme
i tip my hat good sir

>>67845845
why yes this is a very reddit board, why do you ask?

>>67844628
>Some people said she is still playing I think and giving "status" updates via her Steam profile, it's just that her personal Twitter has also gone silent. She's likely been told to shut up by Anycolor.
She's not changing her steam name any more. Management has clamped down on that.
If they don't Zaion her this week, they're gonna Zaion her the day before her contract expires. They're not gonna let her "graduate" on good or even neutral terms.

>>67839557
He also covers non-drama niji news from time to time.

>>67845175
>niji can ban you from using personal accounts
Is that a thing they actually do? Sounds extremely evil.

>>67833287
>>67833261
This

>>67843366
>rpr went to japan and hung out with vtubers and e-celebs irl
This guy seems sussy as fuck now that you mention it.

>>67846215
Sayu talked about it happening to her, seems likely it's happening in this case too.

>>67846463
rpr moved to Japan to be the Director of Public Relations for a Japanese Apex org. Nijinigs are coping, don’t fall for their bullshit.

>>67845277
>what's her incentive to not break her contract in that case?
Financial damages and getting blacklisted by other Japanese corpos that have connections to Nijisanji. Selen might be okay with that if she was leaving the vtuber industry but she obviously wants to redebut either as her PL or in VShojo. The steam messages from her RM is the modern equivalent of a POW blinking out a message in Morse code. The Niji shills are pretending like desperately calling for help is normal but she is worried that management will keep her trapped in legal red tape for months. The reason that rpr is publicly making a big deal of her radio silence is to encourage management to more quickly announce her termination.

>>67845920
the fucking image
bro it'a not that deep

>>67846983
>POW blinking out a message in Morse code
this is funny because all her hidden messages were shitposting about furries. imagine a POW doing that made me ROFL

>>67846983
Says a lot about her current situation when getting fired with cause, and not being able to file a wrongful termination suit or collect unemployment benefits due to the cause of her firing, would actually IMPROVE her situation.

>>67845920
the fucking image
bro it's not that deep

It is really ironic that the most powerful weapon a talent has to cause a shitstorm, is just staying silent.
Imagine the leverage they could have if they just unionized and all went on radio silence for a month.

>>67847135
>it's not that deep
that was used to protest pogchamp face being removed, it was never deep to begin with.

>>67839557
He used to be pretty chummy with Niji, specifically NijiEN, but then Niji tried to take him down and since then he's been on a warpath with them. Anything that can make Niji look bad or make people see what a black company Anycolor is he will cover it.

>>67834307
Only Nijifans think his tweet is a bannable offense.

>>67833287
I see you stupid fucks ALWAYS dismiss the silence and implications from it with "just DM?" like no shit maybe they already chatted. Maybe he's fucking concerned about her absence in the public, aka her job? How about you sisters think beyond the surface for once that when something is concerning, you should look into it. Maybe you just don't care about Selen at all, maybe that's why you always dismiss concerns because she doesn't matter to you. Her absence ruins your favorite company and by extension, your favorite livers. This is why people call you guys the Nijisanji Defense Force, you oshi the company that abuses people

>>67833260
>>67833261
>>67833287
I swear you guys get dumber and dumber by the day.

I'm going to tell you all a secret - every single corpo vtuber in this industry has a second, if not more, discord account. It's really easy to setup, and they always chat with their friends USING that account, then when they do collabs they "leave" the groupchats and invite their corpo account to it, to prevent it getting leaked. RPR 100% has Selen's other discord account, and he's causing drama on purpose, whether through leeching the drama, or trying to put more of a spotlight on Selen's firing/suspension before it's even announced. RPR is the same guy who shat on Niji while in the same breath going "omg Hololive and Holostars their fans are so amazing", so really I wouldn't count him out on just being a leech, since nobody at Niji is his friend anyway besides Selen

>>67847518
>but then Niji tried to take him down and since then he's been on a warpath with them
You say that like they didnt try and take him down because he was shitting on their black company bullshit

>>67833332
She's been playing Apex and Palworld but it looks like she's ghosted everyone outside of her closest friends.

I don't know if this thread (and whole board) is just filled with corpo bootlickers, but I cannot understand dismissing Selen's disappearance, even if this guy is just leeching or whatever cope you can think of, using his platform to call out a black company should be the main focus of the discussion.
Wether it's true or not he's actually in contact with Selen doesn't matter, calling out this stealth suspension seems to be a good wake up call to anyone that cares about Selen.

Give props to nijisanji for coming out with unique yabs all the time
No pussy shit the real stuff

>>67847906
They were taking him down because he reported on Vox being doxxed, should have they just ignored it?
>>67847947
Literally not true. She's been playing Apex almost non-stop, and was even doing it during Pomu's graduation and AI

>>67847135
>>67846994
Are you guys damage controlling with bots now

>>67848059
>Literally not true. She's been playing Apex almost non-stop, and was even doing it during Pomu's graduation and AI
You just reworded what I just said?
Also she wasn't playing Apex during Pomu's graduation. I dunno about AI

>>67846983
>blacklisted by vshojo
>the corpo that hired fucking miguel gato

vshojo will hire anyone if they bring numbers and have someone to vouch for them, I guess she would be giving up any hope of a sanrio collab but that's a long shot anyway

>>67847605
If he DMd her and she responded she would have told him why she’s not posting publicly idiot

>>67848028
The only reason why some fans are dismissing Selen's disappearance is because they don't want to accept that this is potentially another Yugo or Zaion situation waiting to happen. And that would mean acknowledging that you've sunk your time and have been giving money to a company that can fuck over their talents on a whim.

>>67840385
They physically can’t do that

>>67848028
The average IQ on this board is unironically in the low 80s, even ignoring the unironic shills.

>>67848028
it's just nijifags invading from their threads to shit on selen because she's almost out the door

>>67848538
It's not just that. They consider NijiEN to be a friend group experience (FGE). It leads to extremely flawed logic where people will blame the livers (like Selen or Pomu) for supposedly shit stirring, when the livers themselves have brought up legitimate concerns or vented about the company.

>>67833153
>a kenzokuck
It's always holofags, isn't it. Absolutely toxic.

>>67849108
I don't know man, it is super weird. I unironically believe that their managers are /here/ trying to fix pr really hard. There is no single corporate fanbase that would defend company over vtuber. Like, imagine Fishman said that he didn't approved Lia's song and deletes 15k$ worth of work. Everyone will shit on him equally. Same with Hololive, vShoujo and IdolEN.
NijisanjiEN is retarded and I refuse to believe that management has any kpop stans behind them.
But on the other hand most of their fans are Chinese and women and it speaks for itself

>>67833153
>vtuber

>>67850043
it's also really easy to troll by pretending to be a management-defending nijifag but there are real ones out there and they're usually JP fans "In Japan they take IP seriously" "they do it like this in Japan" "Nijisanji has always been like this EOP newfag" etc

>>67833153
She got Epstein'd.

>>67850263
People do falseflag but if you actually watch /NijiEN/ there are genuinely a ton of people who do NDF shit. They don't want stuff thay embarrasses the company to go public, even if it's just repeating the livers' words, because it makes them feel bad.

>>67834463
It isn't his first time. He has said Selen is notorious with not responding to direct messages over Discord, and that was said about two years ago.
>>67834825
When was the last time he collabed with Niji EN? Literally no skin off his nose.

>>67850426
I'm gonna confirm that as a (primarily) holofan that had a friend(well kind of at this point, whatever) start watching ninji, and I just want to say it's really concerning. Seeing a dude you thought you knew going off on a tirade about how "everyone angry about Selen is a false flagging holofan" and "Well Selen always speaks/acts before she thinks so she kind of deserves this" makes me really what the fuck is going on in Niji fan communities because I felt like I was talking with a cultist.

>>67849108
Notice one thing in common about the shit stirrers? They're all the girls. There's hardly men in the fanbase so the girls in the fanbase keep on saying shit like this about the Niji girl members. If you go into /NijiEN/ you hardly get girl posting unless Rosemi, Elira, and MAYBE Vivi is on. All the other girls get little to no discussion when they're on because almost all the men in the fanbase just up and left. Pomu leaving took a massive chunk out of it.

>>67833153
I get rrats and stuff but I can't help but imagine a scenario where she asked for this because she's going through something horribly personal and this hashtag is destroying what remains of her mental health
Not NDF at all, I just think of a lot of different outcomes

>>67850871
for some strange reason, nijifans all end up acting the same way, regardless of if they watch jp, en, id, or their countries of origin. For hololive it's sort of understandable because the en community took alot of cues from the existing JP one, but the niji en and jp communties are very distant from each other, and come to think of it so are the CN ones, but they all end up acting the same way. There has to be soimething about nijisanji that turns their fans into blind corpo loyalists, because that's the only commonality

>>67837516
unironically this. i've heard the name when people are trying to insult one of the homos. I thought he was a flesh tuber until right now.

>>67850928
Yeah, having your bosses fuck you raw for an year and then slamdunk on you with the biggest meme suspension on the planet is probably a very personal experience.
If Selen wanted to say something - and there was nothing stopping her - she would have. Although if nothing is done in the next few days the situation will probably snowball into something that only a full blown stream can save.

>>67851243
>If Selen wanted to say something - and there was nothing stopping her - she would have
she literally doesn't have access to her accounts. her manager changed the passwords. and her RM twitter is now monitored and she can be sued if she say anything there

>>67838279
Not private information but most likely knows at least one of her alternate, non corporate accounts.

>>67851309
>her manager changed the passwords. and her RM twitter is now monitored
Honestly that's to be expected from a corporate entity after all the scandals and public freakouts of the last two years. Doesn't make it good or fair, it's another reason for her to walk out ASAP.

>>67850928
She probably started the hashtag via proxies. The people involved in the initial tweets are all doxxfags, they probably got a message from her through backchannels telling them to do it, or at the very least approving of it. Almost anyone who's anyone among dragoons has participated at this point.

>>67851526
>selen is lighting the fires of rebellion in an underground proxy war
Now this is a rrat I can get behind

>>67851309
So there is something stopping her? If so then rdr is doing the Lord's work.

>>67850043
>>67850426
When this kind of drama happens it changes the context to what the fanbase has celebrated in the past. They're defending the company all the same, but ultimately it ends up protecting the brand's image as a tight-knit, outgoing friend group. If the image falls apart, there's no reason to be attached to the brand. I don't think fans see it that cynically, but that's what's happening and that's why they make excuses for the decisions management makes. I think you get fervent types everywhere, but it's distinctly more common with the NijiEN fanbase and there's a very specific way they make excuses that's unique to how the NijiEN brand grew.

Part of it is how segmented NijiEN's fanbases are now. There's just too many livers. That sense of actual unity isn't there, so people have to defend the brand rather than the actual group of livers. You have people who are now dedicating themselves to just the girls or the guys—just Rosemi or just Ike. This anon (>>67850875) is completely right. I still remember way back when fans on Twitter complained that Puchisanji was only including the Luxiem wave. Heck, even some of the boys' fans on Twitter tried to complain too—yet the majority of the fanbase stayed quiet about it. If you looked in /NijiEN/, there were fans of the boys who were complaining about the people complaining on Twitter. They were posting screenshots into the thread complaining about them.

After they got some slight pushback, they pivoted to blaming the girls (low numbers) or saying male fans were unicorns. They should have listened to the lesbian Pomudachi.

>>67850928
Selen had no problem sending messages on different PL accounts until Nijisanji realized what she was doing and shut her down. They don't want fans making any noise about her suspension and Hololive does the same thing. A "health" break can excuse a vtuber going radio silent for months while corporate shills can gaslight fans into believing they are bad people if they don't accept the obvious lie.

>>67851779
>something bad happens to niji
>B-B-B-But what about hololive!
like clockwork

>>67839557
for some reason the catalog did a total 180 on this guy ever since his arc of attacking nijis started. that's probably the real reason, legitimizing dramafags and their parasitic "content" style because drama-obsessed tourists care more about dunking on niji even if it's coming from someone who hates vtubing and just wants to burn it to the ground.

>>67851970
1/10 try harder.

>>67833258
Is this a fat joke

>>67852037
The NDF approves of this post

>>67852025
shitting on nijisanji covers a multitude of sins

>>67845755
What this anon said. He probably can contact the person behind Selen, but if Selen is completely locked out of her accounts then "Selen" can not be contacted. Technically it's semantics but if rpr wants to do an event or a collab or something it's Selen he has to do it with, not her PL.

>>67852037
You try harder, expected an example at least.

>>67850875
They protected the livers from criticism to the degree where any negative digs reputationally were seen as trolling, direct criticisms towards the boys (they took it personally), and that by not being happy enough for the boys that you were just a Holofan.

>>67852243
Hey, I recently saw a screenshot that showed she apparently had the steam name “help” that looked like it came from steamid.uk, but are we sure that was real? Because when I go to her history it’s not there while everything else is

10K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>67852884
I just checked the niji reddit and it's blown up and is at the top with a big support for Selen on it

>>67853271
that's pretty big usually anything even remotely criticizing niji get's downvoted or deleted there.

>>67852243
That's a good point. She probably had a lot of plans/collabs still planned and people can't contact.

>>67853668
Filian couldn't even contact her

>>67853271
>1.5k updoots
Man, I'd hate to be Niji's community manager

>>67853858
Solution = don't care and ignore because people are going to buy and donate anyway, push Noctyx and Ethyria down everyone's throats

>>67853858
just lock the whole subreddit so you don't have to deal with it, works for t-chan

I'm gonna laugh at you lot after a few weeks when its revealed that this is a nothingburger

>>67840604
>superior white man got confused by nijifags licking the corpo boots
I kneel

>>67854171
that's a gypsy anon

>>67854134
in your fantasy world, what can possibly reduce this to a nothing burger?
she's clearly not hospitalized given how much gaming she's doing.
she's clearly blocked from her accounts given that she needs to resort to steam id name changes to give status updates instead of just posting on RM twitter.
she's clearly suspended given that she wasn't even allowed to say goodbye to pomu.

given all these facts, i don't see how she can come back and pretend nothing happened.

>>67854257
still white to me, I am Chinese

I bet now this man is shitting in his pants after RPR made his speech

>>67854134
There is absolutely zero scenario where this is a nothingburger you retard. The only difference might be the outcome. Either she complies and shuts up and suffers by falling back in line without a termination or she quits/gets fired. "Nothingburger" implies that nothing happened which is already not true

>>67854581
What a retard. He's rushing to be a white knight without spending a single electron of brain power to think of why people are upset. No one needs Selen to be forced to come back right now or interrupt a break. We need niji to be fucking accountable because they've broken trust too many times. Selen can do whatever she wants, it's her employer that people are demanding answers from

>>67854581
What kind of a faggot puts six emoticons in his name?

>>67854689
There's a different emoji for each pronoun

>>67854689
never heard of oshi marks? though i don't recognize those

>>67852742
what are those random letters and numbers?

>>67854303
They're probably just NijiEN fans that still want to believe that the branch can still be salvaged, and that if that liver somehow gets in trouble then they somehow deserved it.

>>67854581
Oh man there's going to be so much grudgeposting.

Is no one else hoping that she comes back and does a suicide stream? That would be fucking amazing- just a trademark laugh and then a gunshot.

>>67854777
>posting in a NijiEN thread
>doesn't recognize lazusydia oshi marks
yeah that sounds about right for this board

>>67852742
if it's not on steamid.uk then it's probably fake

>>67854303
>she's clearly not hospitalized given how much gaming she's doing.
No one thinks she’s still hospitalized. Could still be recovering mentally. Pomu herself said we should focus on her getting better
>she's clearly blocked from her accounts given that she needs to resort to steam id
Rrat with no basis
>she's clearly suspended given that she wasn't even allowed to say goodbye to pomu.
Rrat
NTA and I’m not denying the possibility but you all will look very stupid if she comes back and nothing happened

what is going to happen with this: nothing
they will just announce whatever it is in a few weeks. No social meda pressure is going to change that. and rpr is for sure going to be blacklist from all jp events when en calls the higher ups

>>67854777
>>67854902
>five oshis
>putting the marks of five livers in your name
Dude's a faggot and a half. People like him were lynched back in the day.

>>67854902
Amazing.
Nijifags branding themselves like slaves.
Simply amazing.

>>67854785
Youtube links

>>67855064
The longer this goes on the more their brand is hurt. I don't doubt they will sit and do nothing because they obviously give zero fucks about brand image.

>>67855078
NTA but you... you understand that hololive also does this...?

>>67840366
NTA but anyone crying about males from Selen of all people are just complete newfags. she had a male collab in her 2nd week FFS.

>>67855027
>Rrat with no basis
nta but no she's definitely locked out of her accounts. That's standard policy for both Niji and Holo when someone takes an actual vacation from the job. Because things like tweeting or interacting with management in discord/slack is considered "work" it wouldn't be a true vacation if you're still working.

>>67855078
Holo has oshi marks too...? Do you guys really find it shocking? This has been a standard part of both vtubing and idols forever. What the fuck where do you newfags come from?

>>67855117
yeah no matter what they've already decided their focus is on JP and the EN fanbase could be completely burned down and it would change nothing
they'll just fiddle with some numbers on the next quarterly report

>>67855117
They don't care about their brand outside of japan where its 90% of their revenue and this brand is already terrible here, they value more the punishment.
expect only anything after february 10 aka the mario kart en tourney. they wont release something negative between many positive things imo

>>67855230
They can’t deny her access to her personal accounts, no time in the history of either Nijisanji or Hololive has there been any indication of that happening during a suspension. This rrat that she’s using her Steam names to communicate with her fans because she’s banned from posting on her PL is based off of nothing but schizophrenia and for all we know she could just be taking a break from Twatter

>>67855410
Lmao they absolutely can threaten her to stop saying things that spread rumors
Even US employers monitor people's social media. Get a job and learn these things

>>67855474
What the fuck has she posted that could spread rumors? Telling people to donate to an Earthquake foundation? The only thing she posted that could even apply to was the 15k in debt thing which is still up and she posted fine for a while after that. See, it’s literally just schizophrenia

>>67855410
They literally had them private their PL accounts in the past you stupid nigger.

>>67855351
That's a recipe for stock price stagnation. They already had fielded questions from prior shareholder meetings about why their overseas operations is declining in profit and people are graduating. If you think the company won't get more questions during their shareholder meetings about EN going down and dying without Pomu and possibly Selen if she has to or decides to leave before the first earnings call this year, then the shareholders have to be the dumbest monkeys alive to keep holding a stock paying no dividends in a financial environment where interest rates are no longer zero.

>>67855615
The fuck are you talking about, don’t tell me you’re talking about the members themselves privating their accounts before they debut

>>67855410
They can't deny them acess but they definitely monitor their PL socials and can give them a stern warning for stepping out of the line.

Hell, Zaion got a bullet point on her list of crimes for liking comments on Sayu's youtube community

>>67855604
Retard, this entire board's catalog went up in flames for weeks because of her PL tweets. The fuck do you mean what has she posted?
I'm not fucking defending the company or saying she did anything wrong, so put your limp dick and white armor away. I'm explaining to you what is actually happening.

>>67855834
You don't know shit, faglord.

>>67855874
ogey
let us know when you get your first job

>here’s how Nijisanji can still win

>>67855684
they didn't ask about overseas graduations but overall graduations and it was just one investor, not multiple questions. it seems only one cares about that.

>>67855410
Most digital companies have some variation of this in their contracts:
>Your online activities can link your personal and professional identities. Be mindful that your actions on social media can reflect on the company as a whole.
>Before you share any content, consider how it could affect the company’s reputation. Realize that senior leaders, due to their prominent positions, may face more significant consequences for violations of this policy.

I'm pretty sure that she's not technically 'locked out' of her account, but Niji probably activated a contract clause where anything she posts will spark a legal nightmare.

>>67855770
Of course they can monitor them but why would that stop Selen from posting completely especially when she hasn’t posted anything incriminating?
>>67855834
/vt/ catalog overreacts to literally everything if it lets them shitpost, doesn’t mean anything

>>67856016
>/vt/ catalog overreacts to literally everything if it lets them shitpost, doesn’t mean anything
ogey
now explain twitter exploding
and reddit exploding

>>67855996
It’s not just her posts that have stopped though but also her likes which leads me to believe she’s just staying away from twitter

At what point can you get mad at Selen for literally ghosting her supposed friend Pomu on her graduation? Like she couldnt even bother to write the tiniest little message and was playing apex during her graduation? At what point does some personal responsibility come in and not literally every single thing is big bad black company nijisanjis fault. Im not even really defending anykara, fuck them they ARE shitty, but if Selen is ghosting everyone people thought she was close to, maybe some fault lies with her?

>>67856057
None of those exploded over her PL tweets

>>67856104
If I can get sued for accidentally liking a 'bad post' while scrolling, then yeah, I'd not login to twitter either.
Like I said, not 'techinically' locked out, but if you stay away due to legal threats then what's the difference really...

>>67856157
good, now go collect your gift card
I bet the NDF discord is giving bonuses today

>>67856120
It's morally right to get mad at Jap corpos.

>>67856203
Damn I didn’t know you could get sued for liking Sanrio fanart and random meme videos

>>67856157
Dude, if I got a dollar everytime someone brought up the tweet where she said she lost $15k, I'd have enough to buy my own yacht

>>67833153
Why are we pretending that we care about nijisanji and their kidneys?

>>67839557
Why are nijisisters so obsessed with him? He gets attacked by nijifans all the time

>>67856057
reddit is exploding? there's only 100 comments about it in there

>>67856297
She posted that right at the beginning of the fiasco and was posting fine for a few weeks, so I don’t see how that could be the link

>>67856016
>Of course they can monitor them but why would that stop Selen from posting completely especially when she hasn’t posted anything incriminating?
Betch when the bar is so low as "making statements that could lead to speculation" and "potentially causing issues for stakeholders" (as taken literally from Zaion's termination) anything is fair game.

I wouldn't be surprised if she got an email from management over her being 15k in the red tweet and decided not to give Anycolor any more ammunition for a dishonorable termination.

>>67856415
>>67856397

>>67854581
This is one of those people that is going to turn in to a hardcore anti when she gets terminated.

>>67856388
this true for any social media, but views are roughly 100x the number of upvotes/likes. so that post reached roughly a 100k people.

>>67856388
170 actually. And go ahead and ignore the 1800 upvotes

>unironic redditors
Go back

>>67854581
>wildnexus
That's a famelira btw. And since Elira is the queen bee of the clique she's been getting whatever she wants from management.

>>67856397
Huh, strange, in a well-run company they should've acted on that in a matter of days, not weeks.
Oh wait, it's Niji we're talking about

>>67856551
I brought up reddit. I don't use that shitbox of a site. I checked it to gauge public perception outside of this place. Learn how statistics works and come back here when you're old enough to use 4chan

>>67856603
Cope

>>67856606
>taking reddit opinions
This is why this board is the laughing stock of the site, worse than /v/

>>67856397
I mean, we are talking about the same company that took 7 (seven) fucking days to issue a correction on a mistake they made Pomu's graduation announcement tweer.

>>67856736
>unironically thinking /vt/ is the silent majority
Reddit represents the brainless masses who follow along whatever the newest trend is. AKA 95% of the population. You're a retard if you don't see what they are saying to have a full understanding of a situation

>>67856016
>Of course they can monitor them but why would that stop Selen from posting completely especially when she hasn’t posted anything incriminating?
The problem is that the nature of her "hiatus", especially after having been hospitalized, means that the act of posting literally anything at all, in and of itself, is incriminating.
They'll have a hard time claiming that she can't tweet or play Apex due to recovery from her recent hospitalization, if she's been spending her "recovery" time tweeting and playing Apex. They're gonna have a hard time explaining why she was completely radio silent on her business account but not her personal account, especially if they want to keep her "secret" suspension a secret.

One of the things they fired Zaion for was making incendiary comments of social media which fanned the flames of fan speculation. Selen has spent a good chunk of the past month doing exactly this, mostly just by the act of playing Apex, and occasionally by changing her Steam name (until management stopped her from doing that). They simply cannot not terminate her at this point, as that would open them up to a wrongful termination suit from Sayu (read: not firing Selen for doing a thing that Zaion also did would mean that Sayu got fired for doing the thing, but Selen did not get fired for doing the exact same thing)

At this point the best we can hope for is that Selen gets terminated sooner rather than later, so that she can return to streaming as either an indie vtuber, or an agency vtuber for a different agency.

>>67856388
>>67856519
LMAO I went to reddit and some redditors are concerned she'll violet her contract by not streaming for a month.

>>67856736
Yeah it has nothing to do with the third-world children and educationally subnormal retards, reddit is to blame.

>>67856736
>"this is a nothinburger, no one outside of /here/ cares about it"
>ok, here is a post on Niji's official subreddit with 1.8k upvote
>"yeah, but that doesn't count because something something reddit"

>>67856665

>>67856871
>violet
LA DRAGONA VIOLETA????

>>67856814
They don’t think like dramafags, just because she’s been playing Apex doesn’t mean she didn’t have a mental breakdown and needs to step away from the general internet, do you know how mental breaks work?
I want you to explain why Pomu said we should focus on Selen feeling better. Why would she say that if she’s completely fine?

>>67856958
There's a lot of people co-opting this situation as an opportunity to make niji look bad who don't actually care about Selen's well-being

free my big homie

>>67856903
>redditor getting mad because of his irrelevant site being called out

>>67857007
Niji management IS bad.

>>67857007
Does any part of the situation make niji management look good?

>>67857007
"Never let a good crisis go to waste."
still based tho, Niji's shitty behaviour needs to be pointed out

Imagine bitching and moaning about Reddit opinions whilst posting in a Twitter screenshot thread.

>>67857007
Yes and? Doesnt change the fact that niji's management is utter garbage

>>67857056
>>67857085
Thinking that and wanting the best for Selen are not mutually exclusive
If you did care about her, you would not be "correcting" me. Which tells me you're exactly who I'm talking about

>>67857126
Yes, I don't care about Selen.

>>67857126
Ironic to try this when your post says you're more concerned about the billion dollar corporation than it treating her like shit.

>>67857126
Where is selen
> You just want to make niji look bad
We know niji is bad
> Aha you don't care about selen you just want to make niji look bad.

Try a better bait next time

>>67857007
I like how they mass replied to you in a knee jerk reaction but couldn’t be bothered to address my actual question about Pomu, kek

>>67857263
Because they're ESLs who think wanting Selen to be ok = NDF somehow

>>67857126
Except that asking where she is (which is akin to asking if she’s alright) is treated as though you just attacked Nijisanji.

>>67857308
Literally no one said or implied that. Maybe you should try to master one language before throwing around ESL as a pejorative.

>>67857351
Literally the only point I am making is that a percentage of people asking this couldn't give half a wet shit about "where she is"

>>67856903
>>67856606
>>67856488
no really even more in r/nijisanji which is barely active and only ever has activity when its drama related. you should look at vyt which barely talked about it

>>67857400
Damn it's almost as if the shit she's going through because of management makes them worried about their own oshis or other talent they like to watch...

Almost like... things don't exist in a vacuum. Retard nigger.

>>67856958
>I want you to explain why Pomu said we should focus on Selen feeling better. Why would she say that if she’s completely fine?
Pomu said that only a few days after Selen was discharged from the hospital. Just because she was discharged doesn't mean she was 100% fully recovered at the time. It often takes people a few days just to recoup from being in an accident, even if they only had minor injuries.
But that wouldn't explain Selen's current silence. The initial shock of the accident is now over. The fact that she isn't tweeting at all now, means something else is going on.

>>67857463
Lmao you're a fool if you believe this

>>67857494
I'll use smaller words for your FAS addled brain to try and understand.

when thing happen to person
it's not only about person
also about other person who also relate to thing or cause of thing

Stay in school.

>>67857263
Reply to what?
> Pomu said we should focus on Selen feeling better
This?
There's nothing to reply to. Selen having a mental breakdown is your rrat. Asking someone to take care of someone else doesn't mean that person is in need of care, it's more of an emphasize of the importance the other one has in that person's heart.

>>67857400
That’s the problem: Automatically assuming it’s character attacks against the company instead of genuine inquiry as to her wellbeing.

>>67857569
You are such a retard it's not even funny anymore. Someone should investigate your primary education institution for criminal activity

>>67856814
>If they don't fire Selen, Sayu can sue Anycolor for wrongful termination and become a millionaire
>If they fire Selen Zaion-style, she and Sayu can sue Anycolor for defamation and become millionaires
Oh lord I hope Anykuro is ready

>>67857477
>Pomu said that only a few days after Selen was discharged from the hospital
No she didn’t. Selen was discharged around the 31st of December, Pomu said this on the 11th of January because she was talking about her absence at Anime Impulse, almost two weeks after the discharge. You don’t even know what you’re talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch/FbDaHSwGOEo?&t=4180

>>67857630
You're seething and screeching into the void because that's all you can do. Your neurons are physically incapable for formulating a coherent thought.
Do not reply to me again unless you get someone else to write an actual argument other than "n-n-no YOU'RE a stinky poopoo head".

>>67857642
LMFAO meanwhile in reality: Anycolor puts an arrest order for them if they ever set foot in Japan like they did with dramaniggers khyo and false

>>67857720
How many fingers were massaging your prostate when you typed that

>>67857729
You know False and Sayu have visited Japan already, right?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>67857759
proof next thread right?

>>67857704
> "A lot of people are disappointed at her now showing up"
Yeah pomu definitely didn't say making selen feel better as a response to the first half, no, Naha, nope, nada, it's totally about selen having a mental breakdown, Totally.

>>67857605
Generally when we say we hope someone feels better, it means they’re feeling unwell

>>67857729
>he doesn't know

>>67857775
Right after you homie.

>>67857818
The mental gymnastics are through the roof with you buddy

>>67857775
AAAIIIIIIIEEEE SIS DONT LOOK

>>67857860
>no proof
I accept your defeat kek

>>67857902
>>67857907
BTFO nigger.

>>67857907
>>67857902
BTFO LMAO THE STATE OF NDF LMAO

>>67857866
Yeah look at this complicated mental gymnastic

People disappointed in selen -> don't be mean to her

Unlike your straight forward
mental breakdown hospital discharge date apex in hospital pomu cryptic message

>>67857907
>>67857902
KEKAROOO

>>67857642
None of those two will happen.

>>67857775
Arrest doko

>>67857997
Learn english before you try to argue with me

its so clear its a falseflag. anycolor isnt the fucking government to put an arrest for anyone in Japan lmao

>>67857907
>>67858056
OH NO PLEASE TELL DOWN PICTURE!!

>>67858077
Ok I'll borrow from the master then

*Ahem*

I like how you replied to you to assault my English but couldn’t be bothered to address my actual response, kek

rpr in the news!

>>67858138
kek, gottem.

>>67833153
I'm sure he has Doki's discord since he follows her on twitter, but he's creating more fire for Niji so whatever I guess.

>>67858138
You don’t even know what “feel better” means because your English is so shit

>>67857907
>>67857902
>>67858056
AAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DELETE IT SISTERS

>>67858302
Oh please educate me, does "feel better" is used specifically when somebody has a mental breakdown and has to be restrained from using social networks?

>>67858435
It’s used when someone is in a state of being unwell such as being struck with an illness or mental burden and you want to show your sympathy for them. There’s your english lesson for the day

>>67853451

>>67857902
>>67857907
fucking kek

>>67856120
>At what point can you get mad at Selen for literally ghosting her supposed friend Pomu
This is just dishonest. No one knows why Selen didn't say or do anything for Pomu's graduation. We don't know if it's just because she ghosted or what.
You're just trying to run a narrative that Selen lacks

>personal responsibility
Alright. Let's assume for this hypothetical that Selen ghosted everyone and no one can get into contact with her. Selen is under immense pressure as a content creator to push out content.
Contract employees have little rights. They don't have normal paid time off or vacations like full time employees do or salaried employees. I don't think any of her fans would give her any shit for doing that after being hospitalized.
You may be thinking to yourself, "Well. Selen is a grown adult. She signed this contract. She's needs to follow that contract. She needs to communicate with her employers."

She breached contract. Terminate her. If your logic is that business-oriented and cold-hearted just terminate her. None of this faux-concern for her having a mental breakdown.

>>67858793
She's not your girlfriend, she's not your friend, she never will be. You need to stop being so defensive and hostile if you want to be taken seriously.

>>67857818
You misheard the video. Do you need a transcript?

>>67858886
I'm an aloupeep.

Nothing burger, she will return to her activities after her vacation is over.

>>67858886
You have to go back

>>67833153
>Bigger vtubers are starting to ask about Selen.
>It's Over
No, this means it is finally beginning.

>>67858886
O god please be in London ill treat u right bby. Ill cum inside you for every day Selen doesn't stream

>>67848394
>nazuna if off
MAYBE they are a tad more strict in regards who are hiring now

>>67855027
>No one thinks she’s still hospitalized.
Yeah fuck off millie

>>67840426
they are cocksuckers from their discords trying to install the rrat that dramafucks are welcome
>>67847518
guy boasted on his streams how he had access to information of NijiEN, this was before Luxiem debut.
>>67845362
all drama content creators are using Rushia to sell the drama, fuck them all
>>67852025
No one did a 180 on falsefaggot

>>67860294
Are you retarded?

>>67860548
So TRUE sister, tell them.

>>67833153
>literal who
>bigger 'chuuba
Lolwut

>>67839557
they swung at the king and missed.

>>67847906
The only video of his that they took down was him encouraging people to doxx Vox. Which is a really shitty thing for him to report on. Guy is a complete dickbag that will say anything if it gets him views. Catalog faggots who enable dramatubers should kill themselves.