/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>67477529
She was in a hospital, in fact we don't know anything about her health right now, and all you do is shitpost and make anti threads.

>>67477624
And?

>>67477624
She's fine dude, she's just suspended and in the graduation pipeline.

>>67477624
I know she's been playing Apex for many hours a day.

>>67477529
She never existed Comrade

>>67477624
>can't stream
>can do 10 hours apex sessions

>>67477624
She's been out of the hospital and posting on her PL for almost a month and has been since New Years. She's suspended is going to graduate/be terminated, whichever one Anycolor is in the mood for.

>>67477624
ok, mr underhill

>>67477529
There never was a dragon girl in nijisanji

>>67478139
Not entirely true, she's been silent since Jan 7.
Management most likely threatened her and put a muzzler on her, so she resorted to communicating with her fucking Steam name history.

>>67478266 (me)
silent since Jan 9*

>>67478266
I really hope she can break lose from those chains somehow. There comes a point where it just doesnt seem to be worth it, staying at NijiEN.

>>67478266
Holy shit, I know Niji is a black corpo but wtf

>>67478266
Jesus fucking Christ, did she murder a member of Riku's family or something to get this type of treatment!?

>>67478266
fucking hell
this is like that prisoner of war that was forced to praise Vietnam during a propaganda interview, while he blinked "TORTURE" in morse

I wonder if she can go to another corpo or if she's stuck in Niji. I can't put my finger on it, but I have a feeling she wouldn't get an immediate ticket to VShojo / Holo if she quits.

>>67478814
she said pirate my song
but its not her song
its nijis song
she just paid for it and sung it

that 15k was supposed to be for the yacht

>>67477529
ANOTHER WAVE!

>>67477529
Damn, a /pol/ tourist in /vt/, now that's new.

>>67478266
We are rapidly reaching "blink three if you're being held prisoner" territory.

>>67480388
>but its not her song
>its nijis song
retard, it's a cover not an original

>>67477624
she been out of hospital for weeks now faggot and posting on rm.

>>67477529
Reminder that Zaion was MIA for 3 months between disappearance and termination

>>67480700
kek

>>67478266
what the fuck is happening in nijisanji?

>>67481511
They wouldn't be stupid enough to try. Zaion is one thing, but Selen is one of the biggest NijiENs. They'd be inviting a shitstorm.
Betteer to just get the one month suspension done with and announce the graduation quickly, before it gets worse.

>>67481714
You say that, yet here we are

>>67480700
hahaha holy shit

>>67481511
They announced a formal suspension before doing a termination in Zaion's case. If they were going to can Selen, they can't do it out of the blue after putting her in the hospital and out.

>>67481511
Not true, she disappeared on February 7 when she didn't show up to a scheduled stream, before her 2nd (not stealth) suspension was announced on February 8. Termination was on March 10. So it was around a month, which is the point we're at now.

>>67478266
>Make-up pic without any indication that it came from Selen (rm)'s privated steam profile
>No verifiable source
>Holofags kept biting
Not the brightest bunch, aren't you?

>>67481511
Zaion was month.
Gundo got 3

>>67481714
>They wouldn't be stupid enough

>>67481856
So the formal suspension was announced in february when she vanished in december. So the timeline still lines up
>>67481861
February 7 was their suspension announcement you retard. She was gone since December. If you were actually here you would have known since the catalog was filled with speculation for weeks. When the suspension was announced everyone basically went "the rrats were right"

>>67481926
>a month
December to march is a month, now?

>>67481976
I thought Zaion was originally suspended for two weeks, and then was suspended in February - March before being terminated.

Just a friendly reminder that the next Selen we will hear will certainly have a much more chaotic tone

>>67481936
>If you were actually here
I was watching her you dumb faggot, she was not gone since December. Zaion was streaming throughout the majority of January. The two week stealth suspension was at the very end of December. She came back and streamed for most of January before getting formally suspended again in February. Dumb fucking threadreader, at least try to get your facts straight.

>>67482210
What the fuck is this pathetic attempt at revisionism lmfao

>>67481874
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/uid/PC/2287813609
https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/dokibirdo/matches

>>67481874
>As if her RM's steam profile is some big secret that's hard to verify the name of.

>>67481714
>They'd be inviting a shitstorm.
they don't care, the internet doesn't stay outraged for long and unless they try to Zaion her most will be like "Oh, sad but can't be helped :( Thank you for all you have done for Nijisanji!"

>>67478255
>elira was never real
dragonschizo was a real schizo all along...

>>67482463
Well to Selen viewers she's definitely not real considering how hard they try to not speak to each other

>>67482254
>no argument
You're a larping newfag or a catalogshitter with the memory of a goldfish
Kill yourself

>>67477624
Yeah! People need to stop criticizing our oshi, nijisanji, all these threads are going to make our oshi nijisanji cry. I hate all these people that support these usless vtubers that only exist to prop our oshi nijisanji up.

>>67481636
Making an example out of her for all other livers do see. This is a rrat
>>67481714
>They'd be inviting a shitstorm
>before it gets worse
Yeah, the fuck you gonna do? Spam twitter? Leave an youtube comment?

I hope telling people to reupload the song was worth it lmao

>>67482291
Oh no no no dragonbros

>>67482704
It was done in the heat of the moment I feel but the fact she couldn't even make a slide to show her appreciation pulicly for Pomu's NijiEN sendoff powerpoint for her graduation was criminal. I get not being able to do the totsu and other festivities but not that.

>>67482704
that's not something you say unless you're already halfway out the door and are quite content to burn the bridge

>>67478266
>>67482291
Very sad but also kind of cute

>>67482609
I really can't tell how this rrat got started. They either mixed up her story with Gundou's or just somehow forgot about the entire month she streamed between suspensions.

>>67482704
>RM reveals the thing costed 15k
>which she paid out of pocket
>Niji yeeted it, with 0 return on investment
Now, I've been noggin'[ joggin' a bit here and I can help but ask the question - how often has this happened? Talent invests who-knows-how-much money into a project only for it to be cancelled / denied at some point.
Who knows how much money Selen actually lost through her career because of this. Nijisanji deserves the biggest, fattest, slimiest middle finger in the active VTubing industry. If this is how Selen goes, at least she went swinging instead of kissing ass.

>>67482825
Bold of you to assume she was allowed to do such a thing.

>>67480934
nijisanji could still get vod revenue from it

>>67482952
I think there's just people mixing the two stories up. Zaion was suspended, but not for a full 3 months like Gundou was. She was just suspended for 2 weeks after debut, and then Nijisanji dropped that bombshell a month after her other suspension in February.
It still shows how badly the company is run though, since they let Zaion on to begin with and were clearly okay with her pre-debut. If there were issues, then they shouldn't have hired her on to begin with to not waste each other's time or gave her a different manager that probably could have helped her out.

>>67482704
Any action that leads to her getting removed/fired is a good one. I say this because she needs it for her own sake. They don't deserve her and she doesn't need to take more abuse

>>67483077
>I can help but ask the question - how often has this happened?
Fairly sure both Nina and Pomu alluded to having projects cancelled while they were already being worked on.

>>67483297
>alluded
Not much of an allusion when it's directly stated

>>67482704
Getting forced out of the black company when you didn't have the will to do it yourself even though you wanted to? Yeah.

>>67483077
Happened to Pomu back in February 2022. She got approval to cover a song (Fukashigi no Karte), she did all the work on it, and right before release, management pulled the plug on it.

>>67481714
>They wouldn't be stupid enough to try.
>The same company who thought privating pomus vod 3 days after it spread was the smart thing to do

>>67481874
Get btfo retarded whore. Kill yourself lmao

>>67482952
They're trying to run the rrat so people don't think Zaion did nothing while in NijiEN instead of the truth that managment and clique were out to destroy her for whatever reason, most likely for hurting Kyo's feelings.

>>67483297
Nina said that she was going to release 6 songs in 2023.
Not a single song made it out. At one point she went on stream and said she is not going to do any more projects and just gonna stream
Pomu only song Akiberse. Took two year until it was released.

>>67477529
If she comes back as Selen that means she agrees with being nothing without the niji brand and is nothing more than a black corpo bootlicker

>>67483077
She's a coward if she bows out cowardly, she should pull a Zaion and permanently nerf their HP and Stamina.

>>67483579
>Not a single song made it out. At one point she went on stream and said she is not going to do any more projects and just gonna stream
Combined this with the things NotNina has said regarding her previous management and it paints a very alarming picture

>>67483579
It wasnt even perms problem. She said she was taking on projects that management/staffs were supposed to do in hope of getting her project started. After pulling several allnighter finishing though, she came forward with her project proposal and management said fuck off

>>67483425
Cover and anycolor lost perms for that song. Fauna's 3D got nuked for singing that song too

>>67483650
Typical corpo black balling, keep telling you to revise the plan hoping you take the hint and fuck off, then just tell you directly when you don't take the hint.

>>67483667
Two NijiJPs released short covers of the song a couple months ago, so it doesn't seem like there are perms issues.

>>67477529
Still wanna stick out your GYATT for the Rikuzzler?

>>67482704
Sure hope it was worth it for Anycolor to do all of the following:
>Release gen after gen of mediocre, forgettable talents who can barely pull 3-digit numbers with no support, no marketing hype, no scouting, and no investment
>Have an internal culture so noxious the entire EN branch is fractured into high school-tier cliques and where the whole "niji family" illusion is completely shattered
>Put every single one of their eggs in the fujoshi and chink markets just for market conditions to 180 leaving Luxiem stuck with a schizo fanbase with dry wallets that they clearly despise
>Overpromise a massive 3D live event featuring all the talents, just to rug pull them at the last second wasting all of their time and investment
>After 2 and a half years, only having 3D models for Lazulight despite several JP members who debuted after them getting theirs and NotMysta getting his within months of him joining VShojo
>Stonewall and stifle the literal first EN vtuber they've ever debuted until she cries in a membership stream that they would later go on to memoryhole
>Somehow manage to fuck up that talent's graduation by posting her graduation notice two hours early
>Wait for an entire goddamn year for one of your talents to spend 15 thousand dollars of her own money on a cover project and for her to negotiate permissions and terms with you over that entire span to rug pull her hours after the song's release on Christmas Fucking Day

>>67483650
Isnt that the same thing with Reimus latin american song project? last i heard about it was way back in 2022 when she said management told her to put it in the backburner

>>6748377
I was talking about nina projects which were likely to be originals. She said she had 3 originals planned 2 months before she made the 6 songs claim
Proof of previous claim:
https://www.youtube.com/live/CWzJ_MOgRb8
>For about four days I had to do work for staff, and with staff. It's work that I cannot tell you about, but all you got to know is that I was busy.
[...]
After all that work that I had to do with staff, I was working on a personal project for management. I brought up this personal project to management, along with other previous projects, and... it was not accepted. Which happens right, like, everybody has brought up things up and those things were not accepted. It happens to everybody. I was-I-I had a really hard time about it.

>>67483804
>Overpromise a massive 3D live event featuring all the talents, just to rug pull them at the last second wasting all of their time and investment
I remember when I and pretty much everyone else thought this was the absolute lowest they could sink. Boy they proved me wrong

>>67478266
How the heck did you find this anon??

>>67483804
>Release gen after gen of mediocre, forgettable talents who can barely pull 3-digit numbers with no support, no marketing hype, no scouting, and no investment
honestly this
no offense to dragoons but everyone after lazulight was a disappointment partly because support kept getting lower and lower

>>67483876
>https://www.youtube.com/live/CWzJ_MOgRb8
Timestamp?

>>67480700
Accelerate? ACCELERATE!!!

>>67483667
More accurate to say Sony nuked all perms outside JP

>>67484001
3:40 my lazy guy. There is even a guy who fully stamped everything in the comment if you spent more than 20 seconds looking

>>67483962
selens rm has been mainstream knowledge for almost a month now
i saw some people referencing it on clips of her

>>67481874
You sure are lookin' mighty dumb.

>>67478266
>>67482291
>It's real
Wow, I... don't know what to say.

>>67484031
And why the fuck do you think they would do that? Especially when they've taken no action on covers being uploaded to Youtube over the past 2 years.

>>67481874
>inb4 "it's fake!!1!11!!!"

>>67478266
No fucking way
>It's real
holy shit

>>67484260
dude it's Sony, they do a lot of fucked up perms stuff.

>>67478266
This type of behavior should honestly result in scorched earth responses. Just let all of the skeletons out of every closet on the way out

>>67478266
Btw on what ground did niji management took away her pl tweeting term that she had to resort to steam names to say "I've played enough Palworld"

>>67484471
On the "if you keep doing this we'll just make it worse for you" grounds

I'm looking forward to Pomu, Selen, Nina, Mysta and Zaion collab where they all shittalk nijizhangji

>>67484471
i would bet "inciting speculation through use of her personal social media accounts"

>>67484521
Hopefully Pomu becomes an indie instead of a vshojo whore

>>67483629
>trust me guys, NotNina has said A LOT of bad things about niji management
>>ok wheres the source?
>FUCK YOU HOLOBRONY
it's so tiring

>>67484471
probably inciting speculation like what that other anon mentioned or the zaion one which was making shareholders nervous
they actually do this in nijijp regularly btw monitoring rm accounts to check for any dissident tweets or messages.
its one of the reasons why gwelus stealth suspension back in jan 2023 became an actual one because he sperged out in his rm account

>>67484521
>Pomu, Selen, Nina, Mysta
I'm not sure these four are on good terms with Zaion. Or that Zaion wants anything to do with them. Also VShojo might prioritize having a working relationship with Niji over a shittalking stream.

>>67477529
I never really watched nijiEN, but it's incredible how mismanaged that branch is. It's completely baffling how they've managed to bleed most of their top members over the course of a couple years. It would be like Hololive losing Marine, Pekora, Suisei, Miko, and Gura all within two years.

I'll tell you why this is happening, because the answer is very simple: Anycolor holds the opinion of stockholders and investors in too high regard because they are greedy as fuck. They are afraid of any one talent or a group of talents becoming the face of their brand and gaining too much influence because they know that will lead to better conditions for their streamers (and a slightly lower cut for their investors) just like with what happened with the "Nijisanji Resistance" many years ago in NijiJP lead by Mito.

>>67484707
Watch streams.

>>67484707
nta but he was probably talking about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvIwpSrTgiw

>>67484755
Hololive did lose Coco and Rushia over a short span of time.

>>67484733
>Also VShojo might prioritize having a working relationship with Niji
dont think thats actually possible anytime soon nor would vshojo want anything to do with niji

>>67484707
You're a fucking retard

>>67484824
Clipwatcherchama?
https://www.youtube.com/live/5EAwv7k4XvI?si=ZgRetD_eBvz_XxXy

How long was Zaion suspended for again?
I think till early January she was stealth suspended, and got actually suspended on early February, before getting canned in early March.
So 2 months maximum I would say.

>>67484792
They had the highest superchats, yes, but I don't think they were the highest earers at the time. Pekora, Miko, and Marine have always had higher CCV and better merch sales. They were also different situations, with one being caused by external (and possibly internal?) pressure from china, and the other was terminated for presumably accidentally leaking management private information to a third party while trying to clear her name. These aren't the issues that NijiEN talent are facing, although the Coco situation might be similar depending on the internal decisions at the time.

>>67485042
Stealth suspended for 1.5 weeks, came back and streamed a bit before getting officially suspended for a month then terminated

>>67484995
talking about post pomu and selen graduation anon especially with all the vshojo should get pomu/selen post that has been growing louder and louder

>>67485042
stealth suspended then came back for 2 weeks but got suspended for her termination
but all her sins was pre stealth suspension so the final suspension was just the waiting period

>>67484733
>Zaion started following Selen's RM right after the twitter meltdown
>She likes Pomu and Pomu never stopped following her niji twitter account
>She was friends with Nina, but got into a fight with her and they are probably still mad with each other
That's about it.

>>67484784
>twitch
nah I'm good

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that all NijiEN terminations/graduations have been over conflicts with management, correct? Just from what I've seen from the catalog over the year, hasn't every talent that's left mention how poorly they were treated at their last job? I know that's the case for Nina and Mysta and over in JP, it seems that was the case for Gundou and Gibara as well who equated their time there to a prison.

>>67485454
also with Akane and Mayuzumi if i recall since their rm got into a small drama last year when they commented about the state of the company

>>67484521
Not sure about others but fairly sure Matara wouldn't want any of that - it's one thing when we infer things from her reactions, but openly shittalking Niji would only bring drama and haters to her, and she quit in large part to escape said drama and haters.

>>67485454
What about pomu

Is there a reupload of Pomu's removed Member's VOD, by the way?

>>67485545
It's been less than a week, she hasn't returned to streaming yet. Probably won't for a couple of months. Wouldn't want to risk losing the final big graduation paycheck.

>>67485560
https://gofile.io/d/D7fgxi
https://files.catbox.moe/iklz8n.mp4
first link is the whole vod, second is a clip of her talking about the "once in a lifetime opportunity"

>>67483716
actual darth vader stuff

>>67484694
Pomu will be in DEV_IS EN

>>67478814
worse, she failed to meet the target. Riku needs a new yacht you know

>>67478266
It's fucking insane that Niji is also holding her PL hostage. There's now way in hell they'll recover from this once they announce her termination/graduation.

>>67483077
damn, 15k? if that's happen to me, i'd turn into Klebold and Harris combined on NijiHQ,

>>67485545
I don't think she's said anything yet, but from what everyone is saying about canceled projects from that one member's stream, it seems like it was something similar to the others.
There was one time when Pekora had the project she was working on canceled and she got the phone call live on stream and she broke down crying, so these things do happen, but from the Selen, Pomu, and Nina stuff, it seems to be a reoccurring pattern. Not to mention their 3D live concert being canceled. I won't go as far as to say it's done out of malice, but it definitely seems to be an issue for NijiEN, and I think it might have to do with the people running the branch.

>>67484792
Except that their loss wasn't caused by a systemic issue with the company, but isolated incidents.

>>67485921
DEV_IS will just be another failed attempt at a project that will be ultimately merged into another hologen, as it should be. Just like INNK. Just like Project Hope.

I don't know why they're still attempting this shit, even if it's not necessarily a music label

>>67486035
>announce her termination/graduation
Everyone seems convinced it's over for her, but what if she just takes it, comes back like a beaten dog and starts apologizing for harming Nijisanji's reputation?

>>67486199
It's possible but I don't see it. Her PL posts were way too defeatist and depressed. But if she does, I'll probably just stop watching her. I like Selen but I don't want to see her destroy herself like that

>>67486199
Hot
Sounds like those idol exploitation doujinshis

>>67482291
owari da

>>67477624
this, it's all holodrones trying to start drama

>>67486199
Normally I would point to RM activity and predict it off that, but like others have suggested, she might have some kind of deal or contract term that she's still beholden to. So it's anyone's guess.

>>67486362
>start drama
There is no planet where what already happened isn't considered drama you sack of dehydrated donuts

>>67486362
>The fact that she has the ability to grind Apex 10 hours a day on her RM and take art commissions after only a few days after going to the hospital isn't relevant. We have no way of knowing.

>>67486549
>the fact that she's inactive on her corpo account while being active and making more money on her rm account are completely unrelated events

>>67484471
Lawsuit for unlicensed use of nijisanji characters in her cover video that she paid for.

>>67482379
They won't stay outraged for long because everyone will cancel them and then move on.
By moving on I mean viewers will dry up and applications will also dry up even more than they already have. People don't stay mad for long but they point score and keep grudges for-fuckin-ever.

>>67486362
They don't need to start the drama when Niji does all the work for them.

>>67477529
Where's the stalin meme with the dude they deleted?

>>67486742
they already have for a long time, they're just barely tolerating Nijisanji and all of the livers with a box aren't the ones that Selen leaving would hurt. They unironically can't keep getting away with it

>>67486549
People keep pointing at Apex but really, for me the biggest giveaway is the fact that she posted New Years voice message on RM and not corpo account.

>>67487607
Nah biggest give away is the fact that she is making money on her rm account which is the big no no in niji

>>67487794
Hana...

>>67487794
she was still doing some emote commissions for old clients back in 2022 so not really

>>67487866
id already got the notice that they need to graduate anon since a ton of them got depressed simultaneously

>>67477529
>Meanwhile
>Days since last Gura stream: 0

>>67487794
>which is the big no no in niji
I think no one talks enough about this. It's specially fucked up given the risk of the stealth suspensions and the 2% cut for the merch

>>67487978
>she was still doing some emote commissions for old clients back in 2022 so not really
not 15k worth and not doing emotes of other vtubers
niji is ok if you are making chump change but the moment you are making actual money you get put on notice just like muyu from jp who was stealth suspended for months because of it apparently

>>67486316
>Niji is more true to idol roots than holo
holoPoser

>>67485824
Cool

>>67482379
>>67486742
>>67487561
you clearly dont know how the company works. They will do what they think its right regardless of any reaction. They care about their image as far as hiding things but not to the level of changing their own objectives and mentality. If selen graduates they will do it, regardless of suspension which would happen in any place for insubordination, even more in a jp company.

>>67483716
This story sounds familiar, and the funny thing is it's Niji too, but I don't remember who it was, maybe Selen about a voicepack or some shit? It's the same scummy tactics from management staff.

>>67482698
they think anycolor cares about twitter comments and yt or even their reputation in the west, its cute. they only care about jp

>>67490724
reimu with her song project

>>67490926
you should actually go to the niji jp sites because its hilarious since some of them are scared of the future merger and the drama nijien will bring to the main branch

>>67483804
I agree with everything here, but let's be real nijifags are just gonna ignore all of this, as they have up until now

>>67491004
I don't think a merger was in the cards anyway, since unlike with ID the audience is mainly foreigners and unlike KR the talents are all over the timezones. Maybe they can fold Tempesta in since they're already JP. But if it happens it's probably going to be a clean termination - would probably be cheaper too than keeping an infrastructure to keep the few remaining talents afloat.

>>67491390
>I don't think a merger was in the cards
thats what they said about id and kr but they got merged
if weve learned anything with anycolor its that theyd always go with the option that has less overhead cost or more income and merging them would do just that

>>67491493
merging them would mean no investment to make money and to just give up. EN problem is mismanagement not investment which they still have enough to exist as a branch and make money

>>67477624
Nijisanji and Hololive both cover up their suspensions with "health" breaks and "vacations". What Selen is doing on her RM account though makes it obvious that she was suspended. There is a good chance that Nijisanji will soon announce her graduation/termination.

>>67478266

Selen (let's be real, it's not-Selen) playing Palworld?
That would explain why the other Niji EN livers aren't allowed to stream it.

>>67494027
>That would explain why the other Niji EN livers aren't allowed to stream it.
No, no it wouldn't.
The others can't play it because the managers are completely braindead and can't figure out that a blanket permission for everyone applies to them too.

>>67491906
>merging them would mean no investment to make money and to just give up.
no they can still invest in them even when they are merged anon theres no reason to stop
merging them can actually cut cost because they can just fire the remaining en management they have and combine them with whoever is in charge of exid or exkr

>>67493299
Dont remember any proof of hololive doing stealth suspensions anon only nijisanji

>>67495051
While mergers can sa e money and increase revenue marginally it's still a bad signal to the industry as a whole that your customer base is shrinking. Good for short term but ultimately bad for the long-term without a better strategy.

>>67495051
>they can just fire the remaining en management
So what happens when someone streams outside JP hours?

>>67495235
>Good for short term but ultimately bad for the long-term without a better strategy.
Kinda fits Riku's mindset with regards to vtubing since he is on record saying that he basically just wants to pump and dump
>>67495260
they stream anon, some of the id's stream outside primetime hours. I remember layla having a couple of 4am jst streams

>>67495260
The existing EN management only works JP hours anyway. There's a reason EN livers' meetings are at like 2AM EST

>>67477529
>3 days special nijisanji operation
kek

>>67493299
>Nijisanji and Hololive both cover up their suspensions with "health" breaks and "vacations".
Proof?

>>67485545
She literally had to graduate for akiberse and the antartica cover to get out of hiatus chamber my guy.
On her 3D debut after talk she promised akiberse to be out on july and that she finished the song a year ago. The antartica cover came from an art contest that was supposed to be her 2 year anniversary
For someone who was known to love singing and dancing, pomu released a grand total of 6 covers, 1 group song and 1 original in her lifetime. I could imagine she has at least 5 songs cockblocked by management and managed to get 2 out by killing the pomu character

>>67496668
>For someone who was known to love singing and dancing, pomu released a grand total of 6 covers, 1 group song and 1 original in her lifetime.
See, that's why Holo would be a lot better for her. It's a shame she's most likely joining Vshojo instead, though it's still better I guess.

>>67494198
It's actually probably a Nintendo thing.
The fact that on top of everything else including unlimited permissions Nintendo actually allows Niji to use modded 3/DS for streaming Pokemon when they also made console modding illegal in Japan specifically because of Katsukity and 3ds capture cards.
So there's a very deep relationship there.

>>67498718
But Nintendo loves Palworld...

So Umi really is using a temporary model too

>>67477624
She was out of the hospital and posted proof of that on her PL account like a few days after christmas. She has been playing Apex on her old account pretty much constantly this month too. It's obvious shes either suspended or terminated.

>>67477529
so she's totally fired right

>>67501751
Either that or she's going to break records on suspension.

>>67483961
nah, selen was great. she carried obysdia in her early days when she didn't just spam apex and played stuff like starcraft, serious sam, quake. Things really started tapering off after that and when the homofags debuted it went off a cliff. I already tuned out after Ethyria and was only watching pomu and selen and sometimes elira by then

>>67478266
I wonder for how long will this be a meme.

>>67504927
Until the announcement of her termination

>>67478266
This makes no sense anon. She probably did the name change as a joke because she knows people are looking at her profiles. Nijisanji can't stop her from speaking on her non-company account because that's not part of the contract. The only things she'd be forbidden from discussing on her PL are things related to Selen or Nijisanji. Outside of like top-secret government shit nobody has NDA's that are capable of completely silencing someone in all forms of communication.

free my big homie

>>67505871
>She probably did the name change as a joke because she knows people are looking at her profiles
She's been changing her name like 10 times in a month.

>>67483579
6 songs sounds ambitious for Nina considering she just made her 2024 goals for VShojo and said she wants to get 4 out this year. The big thing that made me sad with her was when she did an entire stream where she went to the Steam Christmas sale and had chat suggest her games to buy so she could stream them. She ended the stream with something like 30 games bought, and Niji was only able to get perms for a single one. I wish I had the clip but I remember Matara talking about how she had "a whole list of games I wanted to stream earlier this year" shortly after joining VShojo so that's been cool.
>>67484707
That other anon posted a Mata clip but Kuro's echoed the same sentiment so here's one with both of them together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuH4_xj7qsQ

>>67505871
it's a little weird that she only started doing this after she suddenly went completely radio silent on her twitter, after she was tweeting and liking tweets nearly every day. surely just a coincidence.

>>67477529
two more weeks, trust me bro

>>67483077
i don't understand how the economics of that shit works
why are they dropping so much money on MVs? do they really make that much back from ads?

Name literally just changed again. That's funny to me.

>>67507199
What does the tomato mean?

>>67507199
>>67507290
Her period?

>>67507290
>>67507451
Its not too late to catch up on kino, her stream is still up on her channel.

>>67507290
tomate :)

>>67507012
It's a passion project. Saying how much money she lost wasn't an "I'm broke, please bail me out by buying my merch" call to action, it was to let people know how much she'd sunk into the project that was just being thrown away. Selen knew she wasn't going to make that money back. She was doing it because it was a show of love to her community and a song she genuinely liked.

>>67507290
IM A TOMATO

>>67507505
doesn't seem to be up anymore

>>67507982
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Hgb2MZ-Q

>>67507686
funniest shit I've ever seen

>>67508162
>her laugh

do you guys say Se Len or Sel En

>>67508455
suh len
suh leeeeen

>>67508299
I hope one day we get to hear her laugh again.

>>67508455
onions·len

>>67506590
this is funny and sad

>>67508455
Ssssloon

>>67477529
GIve her time to recover

>>67478073
>uses mumei
>barely streams

>>67515996
retard

>>67481511
I feel bad for Friend, is there nothing he can do?

>>67486176
Project Hope failed because IRyS just isn't that good of a singer.

>>67482825
>but the fact she couldn't even make a slide to show her appreciation pulicly for Pomu's NijiEN sendoff powerpoint for her graduation was criminal.
>knows about Graduation coming up
>Does some stupid shit, which she knows will get her suspended
I mean thats on her. So again like the anon said, was it worth it? Probably

>>67477529
Who is the Prigozhin of Nijisanji?

>>67507199
Is this shit actually legit?

>>67499015
Nintendo and The Pokemon Company are seething that they can't do anything to stop Palworld.

>>67518211
The graduation was a full month out, it wasnt even announced yet.

>>67517405
No it didn't? It failed because management didn't do anything with the project. Pretty much the same situation that suisei had going early on in her hololive career. Fucking faggot

>>67518990
It's just ennaschizo trying to start shit again, no point in wasting time on someone shitting up the board.

>>67518907
But she submitted her graduation request all the way back in August.

>>67518907
Kiara herself admitted she knew well ahead of the announcement. You think Selen didn't know?

Speaking of Pomu actually, has her RM been active since graduation? I want to make sure to follow so I dont miss her

>>67520286
Based loyalty chad

>>67507505
>AcidReignz
Absolutely disgusting

>>67520418
Wouldn't really say I deserve that compliment mate. Just started watching since friends were sad she was graduating so I wanted to see what she was about, now I just stand here waiting for her.

>>67477529
>Eh, Selen, your suspension was over 2 weeks ago. Would you mind strea-
>[laughs in Selen]
>user has disconnected

>>67520286
@dearsqn

lol idiot

>>67507505
She's a... tomato now!?!?!?!

>>67508162
She has a Youtube channel!?!

>>67524862
Desperate times call for desperate measures

>>67480700
And dubs? Truly a blessed post.

>>67496668
Those aren't good examples; Koko Kara, Koko Kara wasn't held back by management, and AKIBerse is by her own admission a 50/50 (the last few days aside, that's actuslly 100% managemrnt fuckery).
Better examples would be the completed Fukashigi no Carte cover that is now forever lost media, the Flos cover she wanted to do, and all the songs she wished she could sing in karaoke (or cover, in some cases) but lolnoperms like Snake Eater and later on boar.

>>67480836
We're all anime fans and there's hardly an niggers in vtubing. It's much more likely than you think.

>>67477529
She got Stalin'd, it is what it is

>>67526001
But there are creppy pests like Luca so...

>>67477624
We know she's been grinding Apex and playing Palworld.

>>67529506
Se know she's being grinding nocturnal too

>>67507199
So it's all but confirmed she's coming back as the tomato after graduation/termination.

>>67507199
The FBI would kill for this schizo level of tracking.

>>67531637
Oh, yeah you're right
>Can't come back as a vtuber because of a non compete clause
>But since she's using a tomato model it'll work

>>67522222
>"Ah yes good day Selen, you can stream again"
>*No further response from management despite the shitshow*
I can picture Selen just slowly starting to laugh at the computer screen, laughter rises in intensity until it also becomes a mix of crying and laughter as she realizes she can't physically accept this anymore but this shit is arguably so stupid laughing at the whole situation isn't something you cannot stop when thinking about it. And then the Dragon just crumbles into a ball in her chair or into the ground.
Someone's going to hell.

>>67520286
She's decently active on her roommate account. Followed a bunch of idols and started tweeting again, but nothing beyond that

>>67532544
She also followed gunrun.

>>67477529
>NIJI and HOLO practically now have 2 terminated/graduated Dragons
>Ex-Holo is just herself
>Selen either has to use a tomato or fleshtube using some 2.5D legal hole to avoid the compete clause
Gonna be honest, at least this could lead her career into a more comfy direction as long as she knows what she's doing.

>>67532635
thats seems interesting. is there a way to figure out who she started following after niji silenced her?

>>67531951
It's SteamID anon. All it takes is a search to find and sometimes interesting things can be found that way. It's how people confirmed Nina was joining VShojo, since she was using the same account. By contrast, Pomu's Steam account appears to have been created specifically for Nijisanji since they dummied it out after she graduated https://steamid.uk/profile/76561199167120961

>>67532736
There is still no good evidence to suggest there's a noncompete after you leave. most people simply don't stream because they want to take a break, or because they don't want to stream until they have a new model ready since graduating then returning with a 3 year old jankass budget model would be a weird look.
>>67532635
And Zentreya followed her.

>>67532841
He's lying by the way>>67532635. She started mass following a bunch of idols after graduating, and the only Holo she followed is FuwaMoco. So when you see them, you're probably close to the end. Her latest follows are Blue Archive and some PNGtuber

>>67483961
>>67502649
Rosemi...

>>67533079
Go look at gunrun's account, it says she follows him. Twitter follows aren't displayed chronologically.

>>67533079
??? They're not lying. I see her in Gunrun's followers you know list. If you're following her you can see her too.

>>67533350
>>67533342
Can confirm. They're listed in seemingly random order because there's no way she followed him before Matara and Kuro, but she's there and censored because I'm a coward.

>>67533775
thats so weird. I looked at her follows and she gunrun wasn't there.

>>67534161
ignore the "she"

>>67507012
>do they really make that much back from ads?
There was a discussion a few days ago that ads generate something in the ballpark of $18 per 1k views. So when you factor in the percentage that goes to Nijisanji she'll need like 1.6 million views to make that money back.
But the MV also has some non-immidiate benefits, like new people find out about you, keeping existing people excited about your stuff, etc.

>>67478646
True but I wish her model didn't die if that happens. She's perfect.

>>67537592
Who knows. Matara's model is a major improvement so whoever she commissions might cook up something good.

>>67532922
Wasnt sayu pissed niji stole her steamaccount from pre niji? Cause she didnt make a new one just for niji.

>>67539472
Nina left on good terms, Sayu was booted out. They'd be treated differently. I'm sure there was something in the contract they could have screwed Nina over with, but chose not to. On the other hand Sayu got the full blown rawdogging.
It'd be interesting to see if they'll get petty if they decide to terminate Selen, instead of an amicable graduation.

>>67539576
best case scenario for all parties is a silent graduation like yugo's.

>>67539305
But I love her...

>>67539703
I was being facetious, imagine if she came back as a fucking bug.

>>67477529

Return stream today

>>67532126
nah it's really hard to enforce a non-compete in Candada, courts throw them out the window all the time.
iirc Ontario prohibits them by default even

>>67493299
>nijinigger projection

>>67507012
You get a huge boost in exposure but you effectively pay the price. But it's not just an exposure thing, there are plenty parts of the business that helps create your image and just the general type of vtuber you want to be. It's a present back to the fans whenever a major project gets released. It also is almost always a cost sink investment financially, that's why companies don't really enjoy sinking into these investments unless they understand the good will it generates between company, talent & fans.

>>67542137
Depends on the type of non-compete
>Can't work for company X after leaving company Y
Most places would tell the company to fuck off
>can't work for company X while working for company Y
Different story

>>67542451
To add, generally a larger company should be covering these costs from the revenue made through numbers and merchandise. That's what Hololive does but Niji pockets way more of the earnings instead of these projects.

>>67542528
I don't think Hololive covers any of the costs for MVs that weren't done on the company's initiative.

>>67507199
Oh no don't let nijisanji see her supporting those devs

>>67518485
Zaion

>>67543691
Prigozhin wishes he was that successful

>>67539576
God I want to rawdog sayu and then cuddle while watching a dumb k-drama

>>67532534
>Selen your suspension has ended and by the grace of Lord Riku you are allowed once more to stream for the glory of Nijis... hello you there?
>Selen hangs up and sits out her contract playing apex

>>67544481
Just say the word, I'll do whatever needs to be done.

>>67544481
3 name changes in one hour is wild lmao,
would be funny if she's an anon here watching

>>67544481
>help
Hi Selen, glad to see you're in these threads.

>>67544481
what the fuck, you good selen? hang in there.

>>67544924
>you good selen?
She is literally doing >>67479006

>>67544481
>help
SELEN I WILL GET YOU OUT I SWEAR I WILL GET YOU OUT GIRL

>>67544481
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I PROMISE I WILL HELP YOU GET OUT OF RIKU'S YACHT TORTURE CHAMBER

>>67545378
Why wait for reply?

>>67544799
>>67544902
I mean, I wouldn't put this one past /here/ schizos, but someone leaked the fact she was unprivating her PL's videos almost immediately.

>>67544481

getting strong DDLC vibes from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNPMTtWZTCo

ḣ̖̻͛̓ẹ̿͋̒̕l̙͖̑̾ͣp̞̈͑̚͞ ḿ̬̏ͤͅẹ̿͋̒̕

>>67544481
You know, maybe posting this /here/ where we know Niji management is monitoring activity isn't a good idea?

>>67544481
>>67545378
Not many livers are given the honor of boarding the yacht... willingly or otherwise. She should be grateful.

>>67545447
It makes sense because this is one of the few avenues talent have to advertise their roommate activities or at least spin a rrat, without management finding out. Pomu was one of the people spamming her doxx leading to the graduation.

>>67477529
Are there any predictions on when something will happen with her?

>>67545480
Management is probably monitoring every place that is big enough to matter - including the discords.

>>67545521
Who else has gotten on your yacht? Millie? Kotoka?

>>67545564
>>67545480
You bet. During Zaion's suspension they were monitoring her PL discord

>>67544481
oh my god, someone save her this is giving me the chills

>>67544481
Maybe she is trolling. I wouldnt take it so seriously

>>67545644
Good evening NijiEN manager

>>67477529
Day 31 is still technically not a month because there are months with 32 days.

>>67545531
What's the odds of her *not* graduating?

>>67545747
45%

>>67544481
how do i find this?

>>67545903
See>>67484348
I'm also pretty sure links to her steam account were posted in one of the recent threads. There were also

>>67545528
>Pomu was one of the people spamming her doxx leading to the graduation.
take your meds retardochama

>>67545747
Pretty high actually. She has nowhere to go and is nothing without the Nijisanji brand and knows it. When she comes back she will become a huge bootlicker, on the level of luca and millie.

>>67545903

https://steamid.uk/profile/76561198017633398

>>67546225
>She has nowhere to go and is nothing without the Nijisanji brand and knows it
notZaion is now streaming to more people than her genmates in XSOLEIL with management taking a 0% cut. Whatever brand power Niji had is dissolving.

>>67546533
>notZaion is now streaming to more people than her genmates in XSOLEIL
She's a 5view? Becaue Kotoka and Meloco are 5views :)

>>67546225
>She has nowhere to go
She can always go to university

>>67546604
No one in vshojo even cares about Selen. The only one that seemed to was Froot but they had a falling out 2-3 months ago when Froot decided to never play Apex again and became a variety streamer. Pomu is the one with connections. Henya, Matara, Kuro, Ironmouse, Melody will all vouch for her if gurnrun shows interest in scouting her.

>>67546561
>5views :)
In vod format only. When it comes to live views they're behind (because people on twitch don't watch vods)

>>67546713
>twitch
So the reality is that sayu's ccv is around 10% of what twitch shows kek

>>67546742
Time to face reality Kotoka, you sold your soul for pennies.

>>67546832
>meanwhile sayu has to whore herself out to random z-tier fleshies to be able to afford food
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>67546832
I miss zaion...

>>67545531
Probably around 31st or even early Feb, given that a voice pack is running until 30th. If nothing happens around that time then it's probably long wait until her contract runs out naturally.

>>67546871
She's not the one whoring herself out in offpakos and Riku's yacht parties to curry favors from JP chuubas though?

>>67546950
>headcanon
>whataboutism
I accept your concession sayutard. BTW even ex-nijis hate her. Matara straight up said she will never collab with sayu KEK

>>67546980
>Matara straight up said she will never collab with sayu
If you're gonna lie, at least say something mildly believable

>>67546980
I'm not a sayutard you obsessed schizo, she's fucking living in your head rent free clearly. your backstabber whore made Mel lose her job

>bringing Zaion out of nowhere
Actual Sayufag here, stop using her for your retarded war against kurosanji and move on

>>67547392
>This is how the Kotoka surrenders
As expected

>>67546932
>If nothing happens around that time then it's probably long wait until her contract runs out naturally
Waiting that long would suck ass

>>67539576
Sayu wanted to leave and was punished for it.

Selen will graduate in Febuary
Hana in March
Who's next?

>>67547736
It would suck ass for us, but it would suck even more ass for her, so let's hope things aren't heading that way.

>>67546980
>vshojo face-revealing "vtuber"
Who gives a shit?

>>67548030
>graduate
I see you're still optimistic Anon if you don't consider Kurosanji going full termination mode

>>67548030
Ah, we're having a repeat of the 2022 arc, then.
Hana, I know you're here. Please just rip off the band-aid.

>>67548665
Hana fucking his girlpussy soon

>>67546225
>Has connections to hololive, vshojo and multiple indies and Apex streamers
>No where to go.

Rushia is actually a conniving bitch personality though.

>>67548030
hana is not graduating she is just playing league of legends