/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No she didn't, she still gave them ooos and wooows
I won't shit on her, but what she did was not based. She just did the normal thing most would do.

She still made noises of praise (woaaahh, cooooool, etc). It was something I expected fwmc to do but they went the extra mile and muted themselves lmao.

>>67487469
If noises is all she made, I think she still if ignored then, just was more subtle about it. Good for you Ina, fuck homobeggers.

>>67487692
words are just noises that other people understand

>>67487386
Ina prefers it that way.
Not being dragged into drama is a win for her

>>67487386
She made a song with them

>>67487469
>>67487528
Yeah, Ina's way of handling it was the best. Apathetic enough to not upset unicorns while not making things awkward by completely shutting down.

>>67488096
And then realized people disliked it, and then she hasn’t done anything with them ever since

>>67487386
Ina did react when Holostars were shown and unicorns were shit posting when they claimed everyone went silent except Bae. While Ina hasn't done any Holostars collabs yet she used to chat with them on their channels and early on made a drawing of Shien.

>>67488139
Nah fuck the homos, FWMC handled it incredibly

>>67488194
this

>>67488139
No, they should make it more awkward. We need action, not apathy. Cover needs to learn what we the true fans really want.

>>67488186
Yeah because people didn’t know who stars were. EN stars then debuted, made people realize who they were, and then they started to dislike them, so then ina stopped.

>>67487386
She handled it the least autistic way. Clearly not very comfortable promoting holostars, but still put in some effort once she realized Fuwamoco completely stopped talking and Bae was the only one saying anything.

>>67487386
too profesional, should have said something like "gee there is like too many people here, amirite fellas?" instead

>>67488139
Ina's way is just sitting in the back of the bus. Sometimes you need to disrupt things to create change. FWMC is that disruption. They stood up for their principles and did not bau.

>>67487386
She quietly answered Bae so it wasn't just Bae talking to herself kek

>>67487386
Her half assing it was somehow more cringy than if she just let Bae take over and fill the dead air.

>>67487386
>Forgetting that Ina has a collab song with them

>>67488526
this

>>67487692
She did what was expected, Fuwamoco did what we wanted.

>>67487386
Fence sitting cunt she deserves the inattention. I hope she streams and nothing bad happens, that tako stoking bitch.

>>67488737
>Inattention
Takodachi?

>>67488286
Ina has been distracted by other things but she appeared in the first HoloPro EN song. While it might not happen soon it's obvious she has the same opinion as Bae and Mori in terms of Holostars collabs.

>>67488153
I thought the song was well received,

>>67488737
Based takodachi.

>>67490051
You're fucking delusional, homobeggar. Ina doesn't have the same opinion as Bae or Mori.
Also, Mori changed her mind on homos last year. She didn't even acknowledge dumb and dumber getting removed, homos don't exist to her anymore. You only have Bae left.

She supports China.

>>67492562
China supports her bank account.

>>67490051
Ina opinion is whatever let's her stay out of drama

>>67487386
I'm sorry Ina, but the brown monkeys have a new toy to shitpost with

>>67492530
so thats why mori is the only holoen that participated in a homo3d solo last year. dumbass

>>67488526
it was more cringy because the dogs have to be autistic about it.

>>67492562
Cover supports China (again)

>>67493157
pretty much this, i dont think ina cares really about anything, unicorns, homos, i think she just wants to stream when she wants to, get a decent paycheck, and do art when she's contracted to
she wants a mostly carefree life where there's just enough structure to give her something to look forward to but not enough that it inconveniences her

>>67487386
picked a side with that song when everything was at its worse, it's too late now

>>67487386
Ina has been very Switzerland in her approach to the Homos. She won't pick a side and has both worked with Homos but also more or less stopped interacting with them after Tempus dropped. Her noncommittal responses were par for the course.

>>67488139
>not making things awkward
not making things funny as fuck you mean

The truth is that no one knows if she was being apathetic because of the Stars, or because she was just being Ina.

Ina was professional, the dogs were awkard. Just have management give them a light tap on the wrists or talk to them about not doing these large scale announcements that include the homos.

>>67492530
Considering the rrats I'm not surprised.

>>67494777
>awkard
hilarious

>>67487469
>>67488139
She kept it professional as best she could

>>67487386
>helped Tempus with their music
>Wishes them well
And if we can dig into the far-gone past
>snuck off into that one artist's twitch stream and was in VC with him during the art festival

>>67494777
Golden silence was golden

Did you know Ina can draw?

>>67494777
>Just have management give them a light tap on the wrists
You faggots keep saying that but if FuwaMoco is ever punished for not promoting holostars then japan better prepare itself because that's worse than Pearl Harbor in my eyes

>>67494777
Why should any of the girls be asked to stick out their necks to shill the homos?
If Cover wants to raise the visibility of holostars, then they should have put a rep from holostars on that stream to speak for his own branch.
That would also have given the girls a fair chance to decide whether or not they want to participate in a promotion that includes holostars instead of putting them on the spot like that.

>>67495061
It is perfectly reasonable to not collab with homos or even talk about them on thier own streams. However they are coworkers in the end and doing something like that during a stream for the broader audience was just a high-school level of pettiness. If they can't manage even what Ina did they shouldn't be in a stream even showing the homos for both thier and the homos sake.

>get asked to do an event that showcases the entire company for the companies big expo
>shit the bed when youre face to face with the companies assets
Lol what happened? They do this every year now, some seasoned vets they are to following Hololive

>>67494948
rrats qrd?

>>67495340
>no you can't stay silent you must scream for joy when you see the men, scream in ecstasy as you see the better sex
man homobeggars are deranged

>>67495484
They literally stopped talking, they likely even covered their mouths, they are afraid of their own fans theyve culminated. They are literally cowards

>>67495360
She did a Pixv promotion with one of the Homos... Shien I think in early 2021. Nothing too serious.

>>67495527
I don't know if I'd call it cowardice as much as I'd call it bag chasing, they're here to make it big enough to coast by and possibly even take constant breaks like gura.

>>67495360
She was in a PIXIV art festival thing, and late into the 2nd or 3rd night so takodachis found out she was in one of the other artists VC on his stream

>>67495484
You sure make up some odd things anon.

>>67495527
You're retarded if you think anything would have happened if they made generic noises like Ina did

>>67495527
>noooo you can't just respect the audience spent 6 months fostering! You have to fuck it all up like Kronii AIIIIIIIEEEEE

>>67495484
>scream for joy
>scream in ecstasy
I haven't seen anyone ask for that, just for them to be professional in an official shill stream and give the mildest of cheers.

>>67495340
>the girls can be free to collab with the homos or not
>however if they don't collab they should be banned from all official events and only the girls who do collab should be allowed
This is the "freedom" you think is fair.

>>67495742
Being insincere shouldn't be lauded or put up as a goal, they did the professional sincere thing which was to not say anything.

>>67495733
Being terrified of the mentally doesnt mean you respect them
They respect their money and their latest mengen had to tell people to stop harassing their top piggies for hogging all the attention

>>67495783
>the girls can be free to collab with the homos or not
>however if they are incapable of freezing up when a man appears on screen they should be banned from all official events and only the girls who can act professionally should be allowed
FTFY

>>67487469
/thread

>>67495783
>however if they don't collab they should be banned from all official events
NTA, but there were definitely more homo-friendly talents they could have put in, for a homo friendly announcement.
Like asking a Hamas soldier to read at an IDF banquet

>>67495906
>only the girls who will slurp homodick should be allowed
thank you for confirming your "freedom to choose" is just "collab or be exiled"

Can you fucking retards have one fucking thread where you aren't talking about cocks?

>>67495742
They were professional by ignoring the wishes of people like you, who never watch them, for the sake of pleasing their audience.

>>67496002
Yes actually, if you cant be a professional you dont deserve professional opportunities. That is how the corporate world works, glad you grew a brain stem

>>67494777
Good chance they told their manager they don't want to do anything with homos, and they failed to confirm on this, like issue with kanata's manager fucking up

>>67496048
>You have to slurp homodick otherwise you're not professional
yeah no, good try though

>>67496002
I specifically altered your retarded "quote" to erase the collab portion of it, retard. I don't give a shit if they collab or not, but if they're gonna apppear in official shilling streams and go autistically silent when male coworkers appear on screen then they shouldn't be allowed in them.

>>67496083
Oh now its not their fault? What happened I thought theyve been watching hololive since 2018? They must have gotten amnesia and never seen a holo super expo stream then. Those poor girls

>>67495783
>however if they don't collab they should be banned from all official events and only the girls who do collab should be allowed
Who said this? Why are you making things up on a reply? You do know that people calling you a retard doesn't mean you are trolling them right?

>nooooooooo you can't stay silent for 10 seconds nooooooooo you need to please meee do what I want mee mee meeee
Pathetic.

>>67495995
They picked FWMC because they're the top of their gen and frankly that's worth more than them not being willing to cheer for homos to make it a "homo friendly announcement", the homos are literally irrelevant from a money perspective.

>>67496162
I've been watching since 19 and I've never bothered watching the shill stream for it, yeah

Ruffians arent antis btw

>>67496276
They aren't, but the people attacking the dogs are.

>>67496162
>fault
No fault, they made a brave statement to protect hololive as a girl's club which certain people want to change into nijisanji.

>>67496276
Neither was Kiara, until Vesper raided Kiara's stream and KFP was on full meltdown for about 2 days, some even going so far as to call their own oshi a whore because she welcomed his fanbase and said hello

>>67496276
being the popular ones just means the numberfags flock to them, just like how every shit stirrer claimed to be a chumbud back in the day.

>>67496232
>nooooooooo you can't be cordial to your male coworkers in a shill stream nooooooooo you need to please meee do what I want mee mee meeee
Pathetic.

>all this coping and defense force being run for not even doing the bare minimum and instead muting their mics
Lel, theyre mentally illl and youre mentally ill. This may not have damaged them financially but it sure opened some eyes to people who thought they were LE HECKING WHOLESOME DOGGIES

>>67496327
They did what they want. Not me. Not you. Them.

>>67496123
Maybe those male coworkers shouldn't appear on screen. Maybe they should have their own announce- oh wait only 5 people would watch it guess that's why they have to leech of the girls

>>67496347
Seethe more sis

>>67496232
It makes sense when you realize these people care because they need fwmc to submit, they can't stand someone that stands against their ideology.

>>67496442
Ill be laughing my ass off when they abandon you for their out of character activities, thanks for the easy grift money

>>67496467
This but about the unicorns

>>67496347
Dogs are for protecting my smile, it's been pretty big watching all the seethe honestly

>>67496383
Good for them. Maybe they should try keeping what they want to their own streams and not the official ones.
>>67496417
>Holopro expo
>Not including every part of holopro

>>67496499
Unicorns just watch someone else, it' homobeggars who need to people to publicly submit to holobeggars and cheer them on

>>67496467
Yeah, it's really obvious by the twitter rhetoric they use that it's not really about the homos, it's about being a control freak trying to force your own views on others and getting assmad when they don't bend over backwards to follow your will. The worst kind of anti behavior filled with nothing but malice.

>>67496547
>Unicorns just watch someone else
haha, good one

>>67492346
It was posted on the homos channel, however ina saw that people were negative towards male collabs, and as we all know, ina has other shit going on aside from hololive, so she definitely just took the path of least resistance, which is not collabing with them anymore

>>67496547
Kek youre a delusional fucking retard

>>67496503
Maybe they should just do a hololive expo and a seperate holostars expo for the 5 peopl- oh it got cancelled because of no appeal

>>67496593
>>67496612
How many unicorns still watch kronii?

>>67496324
One guy sperged out on twitter and caused you Homobegging faggots to overreact with shitty art that made Vesper look like he was a good old man and not some mentally ill loser, you revisionist fuck.

>>67496619
Its the company corporate expo not the Incel Unicorn Gathering
You will watch the main channel stream and then shit your pants when theres stars segments like a troon does

>>67496672
how many unicorns still make threads demanding Kronii to apologize before they give her a view?
I see at least one daily

>>67496685
>Make up a narrative to shift every iota of blame on a singular nameless person
>Call other's revisionists

>>67496732
Those are PC fags making the threads.

>>67496672
Surprisingly a whole bunch still, hatewatching is very popular.

>>67496619
Sure, let's follow that logic. Hololive expo, Stars expo, Regloss expo, HoloEN expo, HoloID expo, just milk all your fanbase with 6 fucking expos until they can't afford anymore when you're a company who's biggest currency is reputation. Are you retarded?

>>67496712
And you will not watch either because you clearly don't care about FWMC and I'm willing to bet you wouldn't be able to name more than 3 Holostars. You're just a faggot who's been keep making the same thread and posts the exact same shit using the exact same words since the stream ended. Your life is clearly no more than a constant state of misery, so consider putting an end to it.

>>67496785
>see that bad thing done by people whose opinions align with us? it's not us
t. both extremes of any given retarded internet debate

>>67496585
Pretty much, they care because fwmc dares to not play along with the idea of "hololive should be mixed sex" which they think should be forbidden, you can see it in how they even want management to punish fwmc for disagreeing with them.

>>67496819
Kek cant handle the truth huh

>>67496327
>be idol
>take your idol job seriously
>this is somehow bad
lmao

>>67496796
hololive jp, en , id and regloss are all under the same hololive umbrella retard. It's just the stars that aren't yet keep leeching around for these expos yet luckily they haven't yet managed to leech off holofest or holo summer festivals.

>>67496913
You cant even name a real idol group

>>67496913
>be idol
>shit your pants on anything official
Yeah it's pretty bad.

>>67496857
Funniest thing is that we don't even know if it was intentional or they weren't talked about this with the management before the stream. Bae clearly didn't seem surprised, she just went along, and Ina did what she always do. The dogs stopped talking for no more than 10 seconds which could very well have been because they simply have no idea about who the fuck those guys are and couldn't contribute anything. It's just utterly autistic people blowing things out of proportion, people who watch neither the dogs nor the stars, people who care about nothing but tribalfagging on /vt/ for 20 hours a day.

>>67487903
that's a cool line

>>67497042
They know who they are, they unfollowed all their accounts manually when they debuted on twitter

clearly whether we like it or not, holostars still have some fans and a very vocal one. none of this shit will happen if the dogs wasn’t such a fucking sperg and give respect on the holostars (even if they don’t interact with them WHATSOEVER). when you sit beside a stranger in an airplane and they sit on the inner side, you fucking let them scooch rather than do nothing because “who the fuck is this guy”.

>>67497097
based

>>67497042
Bae was clearly suprised also wdym

>>67497097
Exactly, they unfollowed the random people they don't care about and never thought about their existence ever again. Why should they be up to date? There's 70 Hololive girls, even keeping them in mind is difficult.

>>67497122
>holostars still have some fans and a very vocal one
Eh I bet you half of them are shitposters getting you's out of ruffians

>>67497189
I didn't notice any change in her tone and after that segment they continued talking just fine. The only people who find issues with this are some actual unironic autists who have never had any human interactions in their life.

>>67497192
Dont care if ya dont know them, getting cold feet on the big stage shows you clearly cant conduct yourself if youre afraid of internet words. What happens if they ever get the chance to appear on a japanese main channel show with some comedian or celebrity but they have a dick? Gonna stone face them too?

>>67497097
Probably because they actually want to use their twitter without a bunch of male literalwho's appearing in their feed

>>67497231
nah this are the regular shitposters. pretty easy to tell when its a woman’s hand that types a post

>>67497122
I don't fucking care. Cry more subhuman Femcel/Troon.

>>67497286
Maybe. What's wrong with that?

>>67497286
They can interact with men just fine, they chose to be silent to the homostars because they are antithetical to hololive as a female idol environment.

>>67497264
I did t. brat
also going from their reactions, this was definitely their first time seeing the visuals

>>67497122
Oh they definitely vocal ones. They so vocal that instead of watching streams they sperge nonstop everywhere

>>67497344
> I dont care i want shit flinging while watching my chuubas
retard

>>67497349
Then good luck ever getting invited back you dumb fuck
Oh man I burned opportunities because the big bad internet walls of text are threatening that I dont know basic human interaction with someone who gave their time to go on a retarded vtuber channel
Ironic, they claim they look up to Fubuki but they sure as shit didnt get inspired by her

>>67497371
Maybe she was staggered by seeing the Holostars unannounced, because I'm fairly sure she also knows FuwaMoco's stance on Homostars, which is why she tried to carry that part as hard as possible. Regardless, it's all just theorizing. I think Bae handled it great and FWMC did nothing wrong, they did what their audience expects and if anything that makes them professional as an entertainer, pleasing their own audience instead of retards like this, who just self admitted to be a faggot anti retard >>67497485

>>67497579
You dont get to rewrite what professionalism is schizo

>>67497425
Rope troon
YNBAW

>>67495340
It's not pettiness, it's fear. I doubt she hates males anymore than they hate the average Ruffian, but this is them erring on the safe side for the lowest common denominator: autists who can and will have a shitfit and say their smile wasn't protected. Fearful inaction isn't the same level as petty action.

>>67497645
And you don't get to force them to do what you want Twitter immigrant retard.

>>67497645
pot meets kettle

>>67497702
Proof they did it out of fear? Did you notice how bae and ina are both still alive?

>im a real ruffian but if they so made a noise i wouldve dropped them
This is most of you claiming to be a real fan by the way

>>67497702
>they do it out of fear
We are genuinely reaching Twitter troon level derangement on this board.

>>67497790
real, I dont fucking like homoshit but its obvious the real mentally inept fans are on the unicorn’s side rather than the annoying beggars

>>67497790
Who are you quoting?

>>67497579
Bae did her best but without a good conversationalist to even fill the void with her it fell a little flat. Even if we had one more Ina it wouldn't have been as awkward.

>>67497704
And you do? By what metric, thinking your reddit essays on a member post mean anything? Youre an delusional as a Kronie was in 2022, literally no different

>>67497904
He doesn't need to force them they already do what he wants, it's you who are unhappy with their behavior.

>>67497904
I have no idea what you're rambling about, but they clearly made you mad by doing what they want, so I think you're the one who's trying to be an oppressor here. Fortunately, you've failed miserably.

>>67497870
both sides have dumbasses and bad faith actors. It's all so tiresome, unicorns usually come out looking worse due to overreliance on buzzwords

>>67497976
maybe am also just biased because am always on 4chan and never on twitter

>>67497790
>>67497870
>>67497976
Can you stop making up people in your head anon, or at least do not samefag as them

>>67497965
>>67497968
Troonies 2.0
Ill be laughing when they break your hearts and kiss the corporate ring

>>67498032
Uhhuh

>>67497579
>they did what their audience expects and if anything that makes them professional as an entertainer, pleasing their own audience instead of retards like this, who just self admitted to be a faggot anti retard
I wonder if you defended Calli pushing for the Critikal collab as vehemently, because it hinges on the same logic ('what my audience wants' taking priority over 'company image')

>>67497976
i always see way more containment breakers in the comments sections of the talents crying about homos and leaving anti comments

>>67498032
sorry i forgot, level headed observations are not allowed here

>>67497781
Brats and Takodachis have had their expectations set. I doubt they would have had real problems either, doesn't change their choice to shut the fuck up because man = unicorns mad.

>>67498128
are you sure its not just confirmation bias? because i see both sides pretty often

beggars - asking for homo collab
unicorns - shitting on homo collabers

>>67494777
I am a chumbud and give 0 shits about any of the other holos other than jps that have helped out gura directly, but I would unironically consider kyoaning cover if they even THOUGHT of punishing fuwamoco for that shit
Fuwamoco are standing for what their fans want, and if cover punishes that shit, they clearly are not fucking sane anymore and no longer deserve what they have

>>67498049
Thanks for admitting that you were never arguing for the sake of talents, but against their fans. That makes things more clear. What a pathetic faggot, can't even imagine how shit your life must be.
>>67498127
If her audience truly wanted that, then why not? Though the potential impact of such collab and 10 seconds of silence is vastly different, so comparing the two is rather disingenuous.

>>67498032
Rrats, how did you know?

>>67498128
I don't check very often but I usually see some person with a name like giggachad or Imbased talking about the holostars divide.

>>67498127
good point, but it hinges on the extremists on each side arguing in good faith.
They say the premise is whether it was professional or petty, but all of these timeloops are always about something else, being which direction the company as a whole should actually take.
Still, Kronsters and Moris hijinks were legit unprofessional.

Terminate the Homo parasites now!!!

>>67498297
you forgot one in the replies, you'd have have to have a (you) on 67498078. Apply yourself

>>67498297
nothing is real on the internet

>>67498194
Or they shut the fuck up because they like some other talents don't care for the homostars and hololive intermingling.

>>67498242
>asking for homo collabs is as bad as leaving blatant anti messages and harassing talents
Some of those beggars are also not bad faith actors but just clueless normie retards who don't mean any harm

>>67498078
>>67498297
>>67498374
Everyone who doesn't agree with me is the same person. They're brown, SEA, and their height is 5'4

>>67498318
> Kronsters and Moris hijinks were legit unprofessional.
Opinion discarded
Youre a clueless fucking retard still mind broken

>>67498431
Excuse you I'm 5"11 you can still make fun of that.

>>67498410
Some of those beggars are just as anti when girls do things like fwmc just did or like irys or kiara did.

>>67498317
>322 CCV
I feel bad for him. Still don't want him touching the girls with his homoshit, though.

>>67498431
I'm 5'6" actually.

>>67498447
I'm talking about the lean arc and Kronis lil menhera moment tiptoing with her audience.
If you do not see anything wrong with these than the feeling is mutual.

>>67498489
For every one of those I can show you three anti messages from unicorns.

>>67498498
Oh god even worse youre a fucking lean tourist
End your life cancer

>>67498410
to some, that can sound like a “cuck”request, which is understandable, but its very easy to dismiss those statements compared to blatant “Mori is a whore” i especially see during holoen collabs

none of these would happen if fuwamoco just said some random noises instead of treating them like filth. /thread

>>67498498
Kronii is based for sticking with her choices. While I think what FWMC did was unprofessional on the main channel I respect the choice of shutting out the homos on their own channel (unfollowing on twitter etc.)

>>67498535
>tourist
I've been here since back when the board was orange. annoyingly orange, you thought I was talking about orange women didn't you, you judgemental little shit?

>>67498529
Sure, I can show you more people who live in france than I can show you people who live in Vatican city.

>>67498655
Even Gura didn't clam up when they played the messages from the homos at the AX panel. She even complimented Izuru for having a very nice voice. Unitards will pretend this didn't happen.

>>67498655
>none of these would happen
But literally nothing happened except some idiots being mad.

>>67498737
Someone posted this in another thread but Gura even made a Homo reference before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGyCzWrNwo

>>67487386
She did? I always fall asleep about 5 minutes into her streams so I was never able to confirm

>>67498655
What's wrong with treating filth like filth?

>>67498812
Mental illness.

>>67498812
cover will never remove homostars be a realist.

Where did all these misandrist men come from
You post like a bunch of seething femcels who cant get a date

>>67498960
femcels and incels are just the same thing, even in how they behave

I want the management to forcefully make fuwamoco collab with men and I want holostars to be overly sexual with them so they would get really uncomfortable. It'd be hot.

>>67487386
She should have better supported Bae. Ina is arguably the most professional EN member, so it was a little disappointing.

>>67499209
ehh she did fine. the dogs tho…

>>67498857
>>67498960
>Non binary Peaple
The Homos are not Men.
They are subhuman Troons.

>>67488186
She did that shill stream with Shien. Ina should support Homos in shill streams, I don't think Takos would have any issues.

>>67498960
I only hate homostars

We still treating this nothing burger as some kind of drama gourmet? You dramarinos realize that someone in hololive getting into fights over members they don't interact with is probaly the last thing a chuuba that wants a long career in a company would do?

>>67498960
>implying I don't shitpost about collba whores to keep my homies to myself.
It's great when the women get all of the heat. Same outcome, but less drama for the peeps I actually care about.

>>67490051
No, she doesn't? She's a lover of CGDCT anime and probably was against Tempus debuting, but she also dislikes unicorns/gachikoi so she's open to professional shilling.

I dont watch holoshit but they deserve it after spamming the board about Pomu and Selen for 2 months

>>67499460
being a /pol/ retard makes you subhuman too, you are two sides of the same shitty spectrum

>>67499720
Ina watched Hololive longer then almost everyone here, she watched some Holo/stars collabs. I doubt she is anything other then indifferent at worst.

>>67492530
She did acknowledge their departure, it's Kronii who treats them like they never existed. Obviously, something happened to Kronii and Mori took her side.

>>67496685
Vesper was a mentally ill idiot, but he raided Kiara purely because he wanted to be nice. He didn't do it BECAUSE people would get upset. He knew people would get upset, and did it anyway, because he didn't give a shit about the opinions of schizos who already hate him anyway. Kiara sounded genuinely happy about being raided, so clearly he did the right thing.

>>67496982
>being silent for a few seconds is shitting themselves
lmao

>>67497370
It's incredible how many people willingly refuse to acknowledge this, despite being the default stance of the majority of holomen.

>>67499765
>>67499460
Don't need to be from /pol/ to clown on a guy who turns his nose up at fanservice, sexy women thinks sex appeal is about "empowerment"
Fuckin loser.

>>67499874
Yeah, no mind except for one guy made a point to be a dipshit about it and it caused a big twitter blowout.

>>67500060
It's culture clash because exclusive female social environments no longer exist in the west

>>67499765
nonbinary people don’t exist bro

Ally and Sally are not "pure" idols so I don't know why they keep pretending to be.

>>67499720
Against? What are catalog shitposters on? She's not going to get in trouble with management over something this stupid.

>>67498447
They were.
>t. kronie

>>67500372
Light tap on the wrist from the manager is all they deserve at worst.

>>67498535
fuck off breh, even Mori admitted to that one, showing actually some good moral character on her part

>>67498498
I'm the person who raised the Critikal collab comparison and I do agree what Mori did in the Connor situation was unprofessional
but in the end, she had (seemingly) gained awareness of her action having implications on both her and her fanbase's image
in turn, I do believe that stuff like Kanata had done in that MC collab was highly unprofessional and even her own fans had mixed feelings about it
I don't think what FWMC did was nearly as extreme, though they/their fanbase wants to be seen as unenthusiastic in support of certain elements of Hololive Productions, since that tends to be a double-edged blade when it comes to securing opportunities later down the line (something that was highlighted by Chloe during the HLZNTL debacle)

>>67497370
>>67500060
>>67500143
You shitposters are really trying to make fuwamocco into some ultra schizo version of rushia lol.

>>67500417
Connor was right, FWMC is the biggest proof of this. Still a dumbass tho

>>67500473
I know that by including the name I invited opportunistic trolls, but you could at least try a bit harder

>>67498737
Nobody cared until Tempus debuted. IRyS also interacted with HomoJP on Twitter shortly after she debuted.

>>67487469
What? Ina never did anything with Holostars you faggot. Only thing that happened was that one Phantasy Star collab, but it's a sponsor so she can't really deny.

>>67500417
though I'm not sure if*
for some reason part of my phrasing in the latter half got ate up

>>67500469
None of the posts you quoted is even remotely suggesting that, dramatrannychama.

Ina is /MANS/ property and you can't do anything about it.

>>67500593
PIXIV collab 2021
Spent a lot of time in HomoJP chats early on
drew a homo
Bad End Night

>>67499801
That's what I mean, she probably doesn't even think of da boiz, but if it's a sponsored stream/collab she wouldn't have much of a problem.

>>67498317
ay caramba

>homobeggars are also doxfags
can’t make this shit up

>>67500808
That was common knowledge, have you not seen what they do on the doxsite?

>>67499874
It wasn't nice, if you've never interacted with someone before, don't raid them. Even indies know this.

>>67500372
Ina isn't getting in trouble, don't worry.

>>67500417
Oh so that other guy was just another shitposter, got it. I was kinda taken aback by the sudden toneshift. I should've known then.
I'd be lying if I say I didn't participate in the heated debate about Cr1tikal back then.
I genuinely thought it signaled a pivot to the type of contend I (and I assume many others), wouldn't enjoy. A huge part of Myths breakout success was, that it was something completely different from the usual western streaming style. More wholesome, more sfw. Less about the tiddies and trashyness, more about how girls can actually be cute and adorable if they really try to.
I wisened up with age and now just think Mori didn't really know what people would tune for. From a content creator standpoint branching out, especially to heavy hitters like cr1tikal made sense, right? Trash Taste was a huge opportunity not just for Mori but for Cover.
From Moris standpoint, a fanbase going apeshit over collaborations with men must've seen rightfully apeshit. Past live had been surrounded by male inspirations and collaborators her entire life.
Enough blogposting.
Fuwamoco could've done something, not even much besides corpospeak and it would'Ve been fine.
They aren't all in on the GFE. They're legit mostly CGDCT and this is what their audience are coming for.
The baubau defence force is overreacting and making an ass out of themselves, because they get baited into a retard war by trolls.
So do the pronoun-parade, but I'd expect better of my fellow dogfuckers than a bunch of even weirder degenerates.
Chances are this yab will subside and my favorite twins are hard at work deciding whether they can find a way to address this tastefully in tomorrows fwmc or if they should just move on.

>>67500808
>he thinks unicorns aren't doxfags
only reason they don't bring up dox of the homo collabing girls is because the unicorn friendly girls legit have worse shit so trying to use doxshit against them is like begging for an uno reverse card

>>67496162
It's never been their fault, homobeggar. It's Cover's fault for forcing homos down everybody's throats.
FuwaMoco reacted in best possible way. They were top tier MCs throughout 99.5% of the stream, carrying it. They muted the stream in the 0.5% that was forced on them against their will and wishes. They did their job perfectly. That's what professionalism is.

>>67501706
>u-unigornz would totally be as bad as us if they actually had anything on da boyz
Least hilarious homobeggar cope

>>67502315
Professionalism would've been to spend 100% of the stream being top tier MCs, even the parts they didn't like, because it's not their stream, it's the company's. Arbitrarily muting themselves when something they didn't like showed up, forcing their co-hosts to pick up their slack, is the complete opposite of professionalism. They are free to complain and curse all they want after the stream is done.

>>67502492
when did i mention boys retard

Fuwamoco Petty dogs

>>67502636
>I want hololive to be as fake as possible
Why do so many people want hololive to be nijisanji

>>67502766
> Professionalism is fake1!1!1!1
retard just like the dogs KEK

>>67502636
yeah sister, you're slaying!!!! tell them how everyone must grovel to homostars or else they are unprofessional and racist and sexist!

>>67502670
Pardon, I misread the homo collabing part. Still hilarious cope, though. If "unicorns" were interested in digging up roommate shit they would bring that up unprompted.

>>67503013
they do

>>67502766
The fact that I want FWMC to be cordial to all their coworkers instead of giving the silent treatment means I want Holo to be the opposite of Niji and their cliques. No collabs or mentions needed, just an acknowledgement when they are shoved in their face.

>>67502636
No sister, that's what mindless corpo slave would do. I'm sure you got used to that in Nijisanji but things here are different.
FuwaMoco are professionals who have self respect and won't allow their image to be tarnished.

>>67502997
exagerating shit is the reason fuwamoco acted like such retards

>>67503070
Lamo, it's always doxxsisters. They do that explicitly to try and rile up unicorns against the girls.

>>67497080
nice line desu

>>67503117
Holostars aren't their coworkers. They never met them.

>>67503199
what the fuck does it matter if the end result is that the unicorns start harassing the girls

>>67503252
In that case, more than a few JPs aren't their coworkers either.

>>67503070
Stop talking about something you have 0 clue about, Unicorns hate doxx, only sisters do it on their doxx site;
We PRAISE good opsec.

>>67503266
Unicorns never harassed the girls, no matter how many times you repeat this lie. Homobeggars and sisters have harassed the girls countless times however.

>>67503266
>doxxes the girls
>it's actually unicorns' fault
wut

You will never have white/asian boyfriend sister. only subhuman nig*ers for you, my fat 1/10 femcel sister.
Your life was a mistake.
Kys NOW.

>>67503343

>>67503252
keep coping fag KEK the homostars will enjoy oogling your dogs during 3D recordings in the future in the same building

>>67503324
Holo JPs deserve respect for being their predecessors. Holo EN exists thanks to Holo JP.
Meanwhile Holostars never did anything of value to Hololive.

>>67503343
> never
I don’t even need to leave this board to know this is a lie

>>67503404
Repeat that without crying.

>>67503342
>>67503343
my brother, unicorns are the ones that defined hating on the girls based on dox. that is literally what the original definition of unicorn is based on.

Professionalism would have been not including an unwanted branch into a commercial, it is horrible market placement, and a desperate, sweaty attempt to salvage a failed investment. Forcing people who have clear aversion towards that investment into the shill stream and surprising them with something they clearly want to distance themselves from isn't just borderline abuse of power, but could probably be attacked as sexual harassment due to the nature of the ad itself, which showed unsolicited half-naked men to women.

>>67503433
Stars have brought income to Cover which has been used to fund Holopro and its projects as a whole.
>b-but the girls make more!
Money is money.

>>67503404
>call the girls whores to defend homos
mask completely off

>>67503397
>this
>harassment
Average homobeggar post has more negativity than that.

>>67503491
> its not ME who’s crying its actually YOU
KEK faggot sleepwell

>>67503527
why do you hold sisters to higher standards to yourself when you call talents whores for even acknowledging the homos?

>>67503514
No. Unicorns simply leave if their girl turns out to be impure. They don't harass them.

>>67503527
another retard that somehow twisted the words to whore. not so bright for someone that tells others what to do anon

>>67503526
LMAO HOMOFAGS ARE IN THE DEEP RED CANCELLING EVERYTHING.
The girls subsidize their whole branch, they are a net LOSS of money not only from their own failed stuff but also by hurting the girls income with drama.

>>67503651
yeah that's why someone went out of their way to join Ame's Mario Kart members' stream and then refused to leave, right?

>>67487528
Do you hear yourself you fragile loser?

>>67503651
decent bait, got me

>>67503559
beggar - collab with XXX?
unicorn - GRADUATE ALREADY YOU FUCKING WHORE
??????

>>67503632
Actual whores deserve it, you're throwing this insult on innocent people with 0 basis.

>>67503795
> they deserve it
There you go, Hololive “fan” btw

>>67503514
Yeah, except what most people refer to as unicorns aren't actually unicorns. At least in the western vtuber sphere, it's pretty much used to indicate whoever dislikes coed collabs/interactions.

>>67503795
You are actually twisted. I'm sure you know you're not a normal or even a decent person, but this board has twisted your way of thinking to a point where you try to justify it all.

>>67503705
I don't think you realize just how little it costs cover to debut and mantain a vtuber.
They could debut 20 males, all having around 100 CCVs, and the moment they open memberships and monetization they will make back x10 what they spent, and after that they basically don't have to pay them anything other than the meager base salary that everyone gets.

>>67503865
And yet those retards embrace the label lol

>>67503397
incels without self awarenes really need to get culled

>>67503898
You're the anomal one defending actual homos and probably chopping your own dick off.
Total failure of the Y chromosome.

>>67503526
>income
Source?
You might be thinking of revenue. Not income.
Promoting them costs a lot and clearly isn't a viable approach as seen by how they no longer have access to custom membership and their concert was cancelled last year after barely filling the venue on previous year.
Money is money. You are right about that. That's why Holostars are irrelevant. They only reason you still see them in shill streams is because Yagoo and some higher ups have personal bias for them.

>>67500627
Don't you know what a joke is anon?

>>67504022
I like how you have to make a retarded /pol/ post in response lmao

>>67503980
I'm glad you agree they aren't unicorns.

>>67504022
please take a day off of the internet. you are in dire need.

>>67503955
You're the one that doesn't realize how costly it is, just managers and the live23/3D take years to payoff with their terrible income.

>>67503781
Can you stop making up shit?

>>67504082
I'm glad you agree with my definition of unicorns which completely invalidates that other retard's argument about how unicorns don't care about dox.

>>67499472
>Ina shills homos
>but only the JPs and acts like ENs dont exist
i would kneel

>>67504062
>custom membership
custom merch*

>>67504145
> making up shit
you WISH am making up shit nigga

>>67504166
Except they aren't unicorns, making your definition completely pointless.

>>67504246
Post it then.

>>67504122
Why would I, bitch, I'm good here.

>>67504279
But they self-describe as unicorns?

>>67504307
no you're not good? you are mentally ill bordering on insane.
this isn't how you used to talk.

>>67504143
Yeah you don't know how a company works.

>>67504080
>youre x
>you're Y
>you're z
I'm what now faggot, keep on pretending to know anything about anything and maybe one day you'll think this one though.

>>67504380
No? Most of them just got labeled as such, because retards needed a boogeyman to frame.

>>67504489
nonsensical response, but then again you never had any sense to begin with

>>67504451
Certainly more than you that claim homofaggots are making bank for Cover, LMAAAAO

>>67504520
and how is that different from "homobeggar sisters"

>>67504296
>>/vt/thread/67249669#p67252594

spent literally 5 seconds looking for that, unicorn arent the quiet saints you project anon

>>67504062
I'm curious, do you have any numbers? I'm being serious here. Because admittedly I was running on assumptions, like model + rigging being 5k, given that the most expensive one I've personally seen was "only" 10k. Add manager salary + advertising to that, and I'd say even Flayon who's by far the most unpopular starEN has enough members and merch sales to at least pay back what he cost the company to debut. Utterly dwarfed by any Holo member, yes, but not needing to leech off of the company.

>>67504607
>but what about y
Fuck do I care? Only thing that matters is that anti-cgdct are usually the doxxers.

>>67504907
where's your proof

>>67496796
your logic doesnt even make sense. You seperated the female branches but kept all of holostars under "stars expo" instead of starsen and starsjp. youre not very subtle homosister

>>67504959
Oh, that? Didn't notice it, my bad. I probably thought it but didn't write it.
*Hololive expo, Stars expo, StarsEN expo, Regloss expo, HoloEN expo, HoloID expo

>>67504955
How new? They're always the ones bringing up doxx shit to prove how they're 'whores' whenever there's an ongoing discussion about unicorns and the girls they like.

>>67505156
sounds like a boogeyman. literally the first big dox unicorn shit to happen was armageddon which happened before homostars EN even existed.

>>67505255
>please post evidence of doxx
Nice ban bait sis, if you really want proof, check the sister sites, and lo and behold they are all gay and homo supporters or phasenigs.

>>67505400
oh you mean like nyfco which is male central?

>>67505255
Yeah I'm sure the doxxsite being always full of anti-corn sentiment is just a coincidence lol

>>67505400
retard the hardest doxxing happened way before starsEN entered the scene. stop meatriding unicorns dumbass

>>67505558
that was when mods revealed most of the IPs pushing the doxing were from indonesia lmao

>>67505530
That screenshot is another great example of the projection that sisters always do. Unicorns would be delighted if homos had zero reaction to the girls. Instead, sisters have to create a hypothetical and strawman the reaction in order to justify their hatred of the girls.

both sides doxx because both sides have an agenda in knowing past male interactions
both sides abuse it to tear into their chosen targets and aim to tarnish the enjoyment of the actual fans
it's cause both sides have retarded extremists for whom the conflict grew above the content in importance

anti-unicorns probably have more of them, in sheer numbers, since they enjoyed the content less in the first place
unicorn extremists in turn tend to be more directly aggressive and opinionated about it, because they arrived there from a place of passion
that's why the former usually make more generalized claims/insults or appeals to "silent majority", while unicorns focus more on targetted harassments of individuals

>Deletion spree

Judging by South Korea's birthrate I think it's in her blood to ignore men.

>>67499874
>Kiara sounded genuinely happy about being raided
meds

>>67502636
so you want nijishit?

>>67504558
Bruh vtubers aren't that expensive to maintain at all.

>>67509152
Watch her stream.

>>67499874
Bummer, I guess...

>>67502315
Can you spoonfeed link this, I've been away for a while and missed this.

>>67499874
I find it interesting how different his approach was between his first and second Kiara raids. Yeah, there were two. The first one happened shortly after his debut, and he "raided" Kiara by not actually raiding her, but merely telling his viewers to go watch her because she worked really hard and she deserved it, and to not mention him when they got there (they mentioned him anyway). In the second one he raided her properly and didn't give a shit if anyone got angry about it. My theory is that by that point he knew he wasn't going to stay in Holo and had been disillusioned by the fanbase as a whole.

>>67488459
>They stood up for their principles and did not bau.
Are you sure about that? The next Fuwamoco morning will prove that

>>67487528
This was the first time they were put in such a situation

>>67516750
he was antagonizing the girls fans while enabling people who aren't even allowed on r/hololive anymore what did he expect

>>67499874
>>67509152
>>67512824
Didn't she reply with a "thanks but ick" kind of tone?

>>67517650
He was, and for the reasons I gave, I'd wager. It's not really hard to see the changes between pre- and post-suspension. The former was "unhinged" but in an entertainer way; embellishing stories, saying wild shit to engage your audience, that kind. The latter noticed a shitposter unicorn in his chat and declared him his and his fans' pet incel, and when another unicorn asked who he was going to go after next, he said "your oshi". So he must've lost his patience with being hated no matter what he did, and decided to play the villain I guess.

>>67487386
I believe she will improve until the next time. FWMC has established a new standard.