/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

UNIBROS... WE CAN'T STOP WINNING. HOMOKEKS CAN'T STOP SEETHING

>>67476258
Even when you losers "win" you still post like you're seething

>>67476258
ok

>>67476258
if they only spit on mori/kronii
even more based !

>>67476258
what did they do?

Yes they shouldn't collab with any girl who has a past of collabing with males

>>67476258
Agree
i will follow them until they graduated or homo collabing

>>67476465
>or homo collabing
I'm actually willing to keep supporting them if they homo collab, despite being a hardcore unicorn. Frankly, I've been watching them a long time. They're well intentioned, fun girls who know this industry inside and out and dodge yabs/handle controversy like professionals. If they homo collab, I'm willing to bet management forced it.

>>67476258

>>67476465
That's a very gay picrel bro

>>67476438
>>67476456
Retard

>>67476258
I will now send them 80% of my paychecks

It was pretty fucking funny

>>67476258
What the fuck happened this time? QRD, please.

>>67476258
QRD?

>>67479046
>>67479102
>>67471516

>>67479046
The mentally handicapped pair went completely silent when homos appeared on screen on the last HoloFES stream with Ina and Bae

>>67476454
>>67479046
>>67479102
in this stream when they were going through all key art for the upcoming event, they loudly gushed at all the holo en girls' designs.
and when the star boys appeared on screen they both went completely silent immediately
timestamp: https://youtu.be/B_kZ1WSpJBg?t=2830

>>67479199
no matter how you feel about homobeggars or unicorns or anything in between, you gotta respect them for sticking with their gameplan so passionately.

>>67476258
That was incredibly hilarious. Legendary.

When you join hololive, you are aware that you join a company that has male talents. When you promote an event about the whole company, you accept to show support to the company in its entirety. What they did was unprofessional and toxic whatever people say.

>>67479452
ngl, I'm a Tempusfag and I laughed

>>67479577
You mean it was based and exactly what their fans and viewers want, if cover wants to respect their brand they shouldnt have put the homos in

>>67479199
Anon, it just looks like they didn't know their names. If it makes you happy, that's great, but you're getting lost in the sauce.

>>67476287
>>67476465
>>67476535
I don't care either way but these ai unicorns are god tier and always make me laugh

>>67479738
It wasn't a stream on their channel but on the main hololive English channel. What fuwamoco fans want is irrelevant.

>>67476258
We dont deserve them, but they still love us

I say we remove Kiara as the face of the anti homo movement and put these 2 front and center of it.

>>67479864
They put their fans above the company, thats BASED, any other response is an attempt to prop up the dying male branch at the price of hurting the girls

>>67476258
when I said this for their PL holofags laughed at me
funny how things turned out

>>67479977
No they put their salaries over the company get it right weirdo

>>67479577
Cover is fine with it given the video is still up.

>>67480088
NTA but if you want to make the argument about what's best for the company. Fuwamoco brings in more for Cover than all of the homos combined. Them keeping their image and their fans happy is what is best for the company.

>>67480088
Would you sacrifice a potentially big portion of your salary to shill some people you could not care less about and who will fail anyway?

>>67479803
I'm the most skeptical guy there is but come on, it sounds like they actually muted themselves. You can hear Ina just saying
>hmmm
>oohhh
>cool!
That's what nit knowing what to say sounds like. FWMC were muted. They didn't even make breathing noises.

>>67480246
>Cover is fine
We don't know that and probably never will.

>>67480246
>the video is still up.
Because it's not a big deal that ask for a public reaction. The comments section may become a problem, though.

>>67480478
>We don't know that
The video is still up. Fuwamoco is not suspended. They haven't issues an apology nor was any wrongdoing recognised. What evidence do you have to suggest that Fuwamoco in the eyes of Cover did anything wrong?

>Because it's not a big deal that ask for a public reaction. The comments section may become a problem, though.
It's a big deal for Fuwamoco. You don't get to decide that for them.

>>67476258
I completely agree

>>67480369
Then don't do streams on the main channel that promote both the male and female talents. They took hostage the whole viewerbase to push their own agenda.

>>67480582
Cover knows Fuwamoco in and out. They knew Fuwamoco were not going to make a comment on the males hence why Bae and Ina were there. What's your issue?

>>67480582
Holostars is hololive incel. They're all together in this. They will be in the backstage together. They will go to party and drink together after the concert ended. They will do things that would make you kill yourself together.

I cant stand their baubau uwu speech. Makes me want to kill myself. No I won't retard.

>>67480566
>What evidence do you have to suggest that Fuwamoco in the eyes of Cover did anything wrong?

I don't suggest anything, I told you we can't know.

>>67476287
Why do ya'll call yourselves unicorns? That feels super gay.

>>67480652
Okay fucking Descartes, you can't know if you're a brain floating in a vat of my cum and this is all an computer simulation caused by electrical signals I've sent to your brain, there's just no possibly way you can know anything but you can make some obvious guesses.

>Hmm this is a door to my house
>But how do I know it's actually the door to my house and not a door to the core of the sun where I will die?
>Because, I know from previous examples of me entering through my door that this is the door to my house even though I can't possibly know this is the door to my house until I open the door to my house

This how fucking insane you sound.

>>67476321
now say it without crying homobeggar.

>>67480296
>all of them combined
Thats really unlikely desu

>>67480632
So true sister

>>67480719
see >>67480854

>>67480566
Of course cover isn't going to punish anyone (they arent niji). You're just going to gradually notice that fwmc are doing less and less of these shill streams and the usual suspects like mori and bae doing more and more of them.

>>67480744
I never pretended to speak in the name of cover but only expressed my own opinion. What Cover thinks about this is irrelevant to what I have wrote so far.

>>67480873
Fuwamoco is more popular than every homo and are extremely gachikoi friendly. I don't think it's unlikely on a YTY basis

>>67480900
>You're just going to gradually notice that fwmc are doing less and less of these shill streams and the usual suspects like mori and bae doing more and more of them.
Good?

>>67479199
kek, based. i feel safe with these two as my oshis

>>67476258
One thing I've noticed is how newfag Ruffians are by implying that Fuwamoco are traditional idols for doing this when a traditional idol would be doing the opposite in that segment, otherwise good on them for standing up for their fans.

>>67480935
Memberships pull in a lot. Look, most I could imagine is half

I respect their commitment to idolshit and their fans but I don't see anything wrong with being excited for your coworkers in an official stream.

>>67480719
It's because they are.

>>67476258
I didn’t watch cause I knew the homos would be in it, what did I miss? Fuwamoco ignored the homos or something?

>>67481452
Imagine supporting homostars and calling other people gay? Incredibly ironic

>>67481398
Homostars are not their coworkers. Calling them as such is like saying the janitor is a coworker of the ceo.

>>67481498
They went dead silent when their part came on. It was really noticeable too and Bae was stuck trying to fill the dead air with Ina halfheartedly agreeing with her.

>>67479803
This is major cope

>>67480919
>only expressed my own opinion
Okay, so not relevant to anything at all then.

>>67481576
Lmao, good on them, they understand what the fans want and deliver it. Meanwhile bae does the opposite and then complains when no one watches her

>>67481546
I don't know, man. Whatching all girls' shows makes you look kinda gay, not gonna lie. I recall when some people on /vt/ were losing their shit while watching Kiara's makeup off-collab stream. Seems like they were really getting interested in it.

>>67481641
Bae handled it excellently in her own right

>>67479855
same here, i'm not an unicorn but i've been saving them all

>>67481564
That’s the dumbest analogy you could have pulled. The girls don’t pay Homostars or authorize how they move on the chain on command. They both work for the same CEO under different branches, it’s like saying the HR department isn’t coworking with Sales

>>67479199
Kek

>>67481858
Okay, change ceo to upper management. The difference in their value is around the same. I don't treat janitors as equals in my office either.

It's kinda funny how they are so terrified of loosing $$$ from their personal ATM., it's also funny that you guys self hate yourself for being a man, just become a tranny already

>>67476535
Anon was right there are fake unicorns trying to weasel in homo collabs

>>67479577
Hololive doesn’t have any male talents despite the meme towa is in fact a garden variety whore

>>67476258
Holy fucking based

Everyone keeps saying based, but based on what?

>>67479978
Schizos on this board don’t matter.

>>67482107
based on picrel

>>67476258
>>67476287
kys spamming schizo

>>67476321
Homoseethe

>>67482107
u tell me fwienbo :^)

>>67481795
>watching cute girls makes you gay
keep projecting faggot, we watch them because they are cute…

>>67481795
>men liking watching girls being girly
>>HEH FAGGOTS

>>67480582
>>67480900
Who is then supposed to appear on the official channel as EN3 representative and make those joyful and wonderful statements about the Homos that you yearn for so badly? Non of them are interested in them. Not in talking, nor in collabing. It's impossible to remove EN3 representation all together. The twins did the right thing.

>>67482067
"hololive production will be hosting it's agency-wide super event, hololive SUPER EXPO 2024"

>>67481795
>watching female anime models pandering to males is gay
>watching faggot anime models pandering to fujos is straight
Subhuman homonigger logic

>>67479577
Counterpoint: what they did was based and funny as fuck. No you shouldn't be contractually obliged to bootlick a company's retarded pet project.

>>67480620
Cover didn’t care because they still got to advertise the homos but they definitely didn’t expect them to be silent. They literally pray for the homos to be acknowledged and it has been working

it is honestly a complete nothingburger to actual people who have been /here/ for years, and pic related is how we see homobeggars and idolfags in these threads

>>67476535
>I'm actually willing to keep supporting them if they homo collab
>I'm a hardcore unicorn btw
Nice falseflag, sister

>>67479199
>disgusting JP management persuades Fuwamoco to do a hype stream for holo expo
>ambushes them with Homostars art because they want to tarnish the unicorn queens of EN and make them kneel to their disastrous intergender agenda
>Fuwamoco totally no-sells it like the professionals they are
>homobeggars seethe
Absolutely baused beyond belief

>>67482209
You watch them coz you are a lonely virgin, both of them just showcased that they hate man yet despite the hatred you are still going to pump money into soon to be millionaire sisters

>>67481398
Fake excitement is worse than no excitement. If you're not excited you just stay quiet and let the rat cheer on her boyfriends.

>>67482343
You posted a picture that proved my point thank you

>>67482343
They should just sell homostars to nijinoggers

>>67482409
>you shouldn't be contractually obliged to do work that the company asks of you
Agreed

Is it true /vt/ used to love the homos before Tempus? What changed?

>>67476258
Interesting...

>>67482570
>What changed?
Western men are as bad as western women.

>>67479577
>When you join hololive, you are aware that you join a company that has male talents. When you promote an event about the whole company, you accept to show support to the company in its entirety. What they did was unprofessional and toxic whatever people say.
When you join the NBA, you are aware that you join a company that has a sidebranch of strong womxn ballers. When you promote an event about the whole company, you accept to show support to the company in its entirety. For NBA players not to promote the WNBA is unprofessional and toxic whatever people say.

>>67481795
>Watching*
And you are right the people losing their shit over Kiara nonsense are in fact gay. But the types that watch gura and advent are straight. Unicorns are straight most people on vt are gay

>>67482067
It’s not Towa’s fault all those girls want to fuck Towa

>>67482540
If management tells Fuwamoco to commit career suicide then Fuwamoco is going to respectfully tell management to go fuck themselves.

>>67482570
>Is it true /vt/ used to love the homos before Tempus?
Maybe the initial immigrants, but homos were hated even in the ancient /jp/ times and no, the winning son and bossu and pizzadad shitposting were never fun.

>>67482613
fuck off dramafag, this is literally a nothingburger

>>67482570
They never implied they spoke behind the scenes with my oshi

>>67482675
If a NBA players would express negativity towards the WNBA during a cross event, I am pretty sure he would be fined by the federation.

>>67482848
He would, however, be absolutely right to call the WNBA shit.

FWMC are good girls but that's nothing
Every girl in Hololive should unironically be forced to say they love unicorns, incels and gachikoi. That they get us and want to be nice to us and make us smile and feel good.

>>67482675
>sidebranch of strong womxn ballers
That’s a lie they couldn’t ball even if life depended on it and ironically it does. They’d get a marginally bigger audience if they came out in bikini bottoms like the other female sports

>>67482570
>Is it true /vt/ used to love the homos before Tempus?
No, not in the slightest kek. But the JP Homos were pretty much off of /vt/'s radar. They had a few fans here but they weren't really causing trouble so nobody really cared. Then Tempus came along and it made a lot of people realize that the entire Homostars branch needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice.

It's so interesting how trannies refuse to admit all male environments and all female environments are different than mixed environments in how people behave and interact with each other, probably because that goes against their beliefs.

>>67482783
If they go indie everyone is gonna follow them. They are beloved by everyone.

>>67483080
haha yeah...

>>67482993
>all female environments

Lmao, you truly believe that all of the 400+ employees at cover are females?

>>67483179
They don't have 400 Hololive streamers.

>>67483080
>They are beloved by everyone
KEK My fucking sides. No one gave a shit about these 2 view shitters before holo and no one will care if they leave just like the other "beloved" ones that went before them.

>>67476258
based, i will support the baubaus.

>>67482993
No shit. Trannies can only exist in an intergender environment so the concept of gender segregation makes them foam at the mouth. And a disproportionate amount of the Homo fanbase are trannies so you do the math. Case in point, this seething tranny right here: >>67483179

>>67480462
Meanwhile Bae was having orgasms like usual. No wonder she's the runt of EN.

>>67480647
I agree
I still think they're based though

>>67480632
Now who are the ones with the cuck fantasies? Goddamn, beggars got broken by this and revealed their true colors.

>>67480719
Why are you proud to be a homobeggar? That makes you sound both gay and poor.

>>67483254
this. holodrones don't care about the talents lol. when one leaves they just switch over to a new blue dorito to worhip.

>>67483151
reddit doragon: actually at 1m+ subs these days. CCV is abysmal, but she's the one who decided to become a fleshtuber making rubbish content. That is on her.

triangle: Never got off to a start beyond her debut. Factor that in, and she's actually doing really good.

michael cat: Retained enormous goodwill despite being terminated. Proceeded to squander it with menhera shit after menhera shit. That, too, is on her.

>homofan = holoanti playing out live ITT

>>67483254
>>67483406
nijikeks be projecting hard.

>>67483442
>No people didn’t abandon them they just changed
Wow the amount of cope on that is crazy.

>>67483476
>lamy image to defend homos
Then again you probably don’t even know who lamy is

>>67479149
>>67479199
lmao I thought they were just going to go silent for a moment and then make generic noises, but no they really stuck to it until the guys left the screen

>>67483254
Tbf while they won't get anywhere near the numbers they have at holo, they will undoubtedly have much have more compared to when they were indies before joining Hololive.

>>67480566
And you get to decide for them?

>>67481795
did you enjoy vox's rape asmr?

>>67481641
Incel logic

>>67481805
Bae is the prettiest girl in hololive too which makes it even more hilarious. All these other bitches look like the average chick you find shopping at Walmart. Bae isn't a stuck up cunt.

>>67483856
Erm... bae is a rat. Rats are disgusting.

>>67483179
Do they stream their interactions with management every day?

>>67480462
I bet they were shit talking the homos like crazy off mic. Man I wish we got to hear their real opinions. Slightly misandrist girls are the best.

>>67483856
her personality is shit, that's why nobody watch her

>>67476258
In nijisanji they'd have gotten a stealth suspension for pulling that move

>>67479199
holy ZASED

>>67484117
Nope is your own personality that is shit. And you want to be pampered like you're a baby. Grow up faggot. Women want real men around them not fucking petulant manchildren like most of you troonicorns.

>>67483856
Honestly that’s probably why she acts like that. A pretty girl is used to attention from men irl, and is often harassed irl. I can see why she’d have disdain for unicorns. And she’s not desperate for money or success either to the point where she needs to compromise what she’s comfortable with. Since she’s pretty she could just find some chump to marry and supplement her income.

>>67484237
Bae would despise you for this comment but based on your autism you're probably only membered to andrew tate

I didn't like the holopro unity key visual implying they are all one big happy family when at least for EN that has never been further from the truth and I think expecting the girls to shill the homos on the official channel is getting tiring and the homos should have had their own stream and art where they are front and center.

All that being said it's fucking embarrassing seeing the slapfights going on in that comment section over literally nothing, containment breakers talking about "homostars" and calling people troons, sisters calling people incels and shitting on FUWAMOCO for pandering to "simps". It's the worst of all the dramafags descending on the official channel to make fools out of themselves over some art that means nothing, advent don't even acknowledge the homos, neither do the rest of EN pretty much. If you still feel the need to go there looking for a fight you are a drama addicted shitter, simple as.
Lots of blame to go around for the way things are on this board but also the wider community but I think a lot of it is the fault of those containment breaking videos about /vt/'s unhinged reactions to tempus attracting dramatourists who never left.

>>67484295
Uh huh. I'm sure she would.

>>67484349
Yes, she probably hates autistic retards as much as unicorns, but likely even more.

>>67484300
And this is right too both unicorn and homobeggars need some growing up to do.

>>67484397
She definitely doesn't like you considering the fact you do show signs of being an autistic retard yourself troonicorn.

>>67476321
i think this is making fun of the other thread.
you missed the joke

>>67483179
Touching a girl's butt or sleeping in the same bed will have a different meaning when it's done by a guy. Ame and Mori don't care about unicorns but they keep their interactions with Holostars professional. NijiEN talents were having off collabs with guys while making cuckold jokes about their fans.

>>67484481
I am literally a member of her though. You should try watching her streams sometimes.

>>67482675
>>67482848
>>67482895
>>67482918
>Holostars are the WNBA of EN vtubing
I will use this metaphor from now on

>>67484280
Yeah I’ve noticed girls who are pretty irl tend to make awful chuubas. Not always, but usually. They just aren’t desperate enough for attention for validation, or don’t know how to use their personalities since they’ve never had to irl.

>>67476287
Cheers brother

>>67483652
They get to decide it for themselves schizo-kun

>>67484300
Unlike incels, Simps are not hateful and crave for any romanticism involving their idols; they push for it andwant to live vicariously from it. Like they watch drama on television. Mizkif and Maya being a famous example of that in the streaming industry.

>>67484280
It is quite frankly shocking to me the amount of retards on this board who know literally nothing about Bae and make shit up about her. Bae has literally expressed in a members stream in the past that she knows where Unicorns are coming from and it's their agency to support whoever they want

>>67476258
It sucks that schizos like to latch onto the girls as an anti tool, cause FuwaMoco are actually really good streamers outside of the whole drama angle.

>>67484512
Mori Calliope had off collabs with males too (same for bae, suisei, sora, ..
)

>>67484799
All of them were professional offcollabs in the studio with zero flirting

>>67484756
Ruffians should've made themselves vocal instead of letting monkeys think they're in good company.
Reminder that gatekeeping is ALWAYS necessary.

>>67484532
NTA but I'm sure a member of hers would be on here insulting her

>>67484832
Fucking kek. You are so naive. Friendly reminder that in the USA, 43% of the married couples have met at work.

>>67479199
MY KNEES!! IT'S LIKE THEY ARE GETTING PULLED TO THE GROUND BY 100X THE GRAVITATIONAL FORCE!!! I WILL MAKE SURE TO LEAVE A SUPPORTING COMMENT ON EVERY ONE OF THEIR STREAMS FROM NOW ON EVEN IF I CAN'T WATCH STREAMS CAUSE OF TIMEZONES AND I WILL MEMBER THEM NOW.

>>67485057
I'm not naive if the girls have demonstrated many reasons to have faith in them instead of doing something out of character

clip watchers shouldnt have an opinion

>>67483311
bae acts like a schizo zoomer 90% of the time and you think her saying "oh, stars designs are cool too" in a neutral tone is her orgasming? Sorry for your partners.

Shame the only bad thing is the AI spamming faggot
At least post screens of fwmc

>>67485129
>partners
>implying
You put that anon on too high of a pedestial

>>67484747
So yeah, she admittedly knows about them and isn’t catering to them. She doesn’t want them. Sounds about right to me.

>>67484979
I didn't insult her though, I said she would hate the autistic retards who use her name to shitpost.

>>67479803
HOLY FUCKING COPE

>>67485188
True but that doesn't mean she despises them like some anons in this thread are claiming

>>67485057
How many of those couples lived in separate countries before getting married?

>>67479199
Cover really needs to stop being so wishy washy with holostars inclusion. Most of the girls can't interact with the boys, so why force situations like this? Like that overwatch sponsor stream was the most baffling thing to me.

>>67484899
Nothing wrong with gatekeeping, but using them as a reason to anti any other member of hololive is not something they would want.
How do you think they'd feel if they knew their ruffians were shitalking bae like this?

>>67484532
>Yes I'm a member but please ignore all my shitposting and toxicity towards her because she isn't a stuck up cunt like fuwamoco.
Obvious falseflqgger.

>>67482570
When Tempus debut, management started really fucking pushing the 'HoloPro' bullshit, sticking the homos alongside the girls. You're no longer allowed to like only the girls, you must love all of 'HoloPro', including the boys. If you don't, you're an incel chud turbovirgin.

>>67485348
Insane projection.

>>67485321
Pretty bad considering they respect Bae and look up to her as a stage performer but I highly doubt ruffians are the ones shitting on her

>>67485321
They very obviously hate Bae and treat her as a traitor of the idol culture they adore.

>>67485236
Nigga Bae is from Australia she definitely hates faggots like you and consider all of you as beta weak faggots aka fuckboys.

>>67476258
I can't stop kneeling.

>>67485315
A very valid point. They can't interact on stream and their viewerbase is completely different.
There's no gain in getting the girls to promote the stars.

>>67485503
>saying this about one of the most non-confrontational ENs while ignoring her words
retard

>>67485463
Yeah they totally hate bae, that's why they agreed to stream with her, right?
[spoiler[ inb4 it was not an option, if they can completely ignore males they have the right to not be forced into promotions, too [/spoiler]

>>67485503
>beta weak faggots aka fuckboys
what the fuck are you even talking about

>>67485463
They hate Bae so much that both times when they had the option to choose their favorite holofes or connect the world performances, they chose Bae's

>>67479577
Homostars isn't part of Hololive, you dumb homobeggar. It's a goddamn side branch.

>>67485321
Yeah considering they like Mori I’m pretty sure they like any chuuba as long as they’re hard working, even if they have a different target audience. That might be better actually cause then they don’t compete for the same market.

>>67485321
If they don't want antis in their audience they probably shouldn't encourage anti behaviors.

Faggots don't know that Bae actually does do a mild amount of gfe and expressed multiple times that she is fine with being a crush of her viewers (christmas tree rating stream back then for instance), also compared having an oshi to having a gf many times. She just doesn't pander to that particular side of the viewers.

>>67479958
Kiara and the shark are staying, and Fuwamoco is joining them as fellow pro-idol anti-homostar chubbas

>>67485706
They have the friendliest fucking content I’ve ever seen. It’s not their fault you guys are such schizos.

Mad respect for being so dedicated to the idol dream. They know what the fans want, they deliver, they're hardworking and in return are making bank for it. Can't believe that aside from Kiara, nobody else in EN seems to understand that completely avoiding holostars is the way to go.

>>67481546
>Imagine supporting homostars
Nice projection, dude.

>>67485762
There is a surprising amount of people on this board who don't know anything about Bae and would rather pretend they do. The worst part is that newfags believe them whenever they make shit up

>>67485663
I used the word company, you illiterate prick. They are in the same company and are going to share the same exposition which that stream was about.

>>67485706
They are literally harmless ad for the most part keep to themselves. It sucks that there are retards in this very thread using them as bait but chances are they aren't even real ruffians anyway.

>>67485848
They all know. They’d just rather take the pay cut than cater to unicorns.

>>67485503
Australia is the only first world country that gets pegged by the world. Fuckboy means they fuck a lot of girls. Anon you might not be retarded but you might actually be gay

>>67485663
looks like you and your ilk are too stupid to realize thats this whole incident stems from this being unicorns opinion, not Cover's

>>67480719
>y'all
Projecting little zesty ass broccolihead.

>>67479199
>Fuwamoco muting themselves (probably on purpose)
>Ina giving half-hearted responses (it's extremely evident when you compare her reactions to the girls)
>Bae is the only one trying to hype them up
Homobeggars BTFO

>>67485848
>Aside from Kiara
I guess you’re right I remember saplings losing it when that homo raided her stream and she was giving him all that attention. Then there’s Gura being mad the homo didn’t include her in the collab song or bringing them up over and over when she played games like fire emblem. They have to do better right anon

>>67485057
The other 57% were probably reported for sexual harassment and terminated

>>67485817
>you guys
I haven't done anything. I'm only pointing out if you encourage antis like they have they're going to end up with a lot of antis in their fanbase
>>67485939
>they are literally harmless ad for the most part keep to themselves.
They went out of their way to unfollow the Holostars twitter account and cheered for everyone except holostars. Even Gura acknowledged them before. The venn diagram Stars antis and antis of members like Bae is a near circle.

>>67485929
I feel like this is the case about pretty much everyone, people with a surface level understanding project their retarded beliefs onto them in order to shitpost and incite console wars.

>>67486107
>gura image
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UGyCzWrNwo
FWMC would NEVER do this btw.

>>67485762
>>67485929
Yes you fawn over her and she fawns over the homos she off collabs with. She’s just like all the other girls frfr

>>67485848
Kiara lmao. That meme where you have a dude who spent his youth studying and working hard meanwhile a girl is riding the dick carousel. Then the girl decide to settle down and marry the dude. That's literally Kiara and her fans.

>>67485268
We don’t have an exact number but it’s noticeable to the point that it became a trend. You leave the whores of your country to pick up a nice foreign trophy wife either hispanic or asian. They started being called passport bros but there’s no real way to get a number for that because you’d need multiple countries to survey

>>67486252
The amount of stuff she has done for her fans vs the tiniest speck she has done for the homos is so incomprehensibly incomparable that it's like comparing a moon to a galaxy. Implying that she doesn't prioritize her fans is straight up madness and delusion but I wouldn't expect a brown like you know to know anything past cuck fantasies

>>67486181
There’s no stipulation that states unicorns need to anti girls who don’t cater to them. If a chuuba does not see me as their target audience I simply move on and watch a chuuba who does. It isn’t Fuwamoco’s fault that schizos think they should hate on any girl who isn’t making content targeting them specifically.

>>67485932
Homos are not Holo no matter how much you think they are.

>>67486181
The unfollowing was funny and showed that cover was trying to force it

>>67486560
Say that to Cover, not me. It's cover who put them together in arts and events.

>>67486415
23 words and you still find a way to add shit that wasn’t said. Seems like it really does get to you

>>67476258
They are the leader the Western vtubing needed for so long.
They are indeed playing a higher league.
They are making the future brighter.

>>67486638
Try adding substance to your arguments next time

>>67483292
>knows how trannys slither there way into things.
Youre a tranny pretending to be unicorn to get people agree with you so you can say "hah. Everyone agrees with me, therfore i, a tranny, was correct

>>67486151
> Giving him all attention
Sure, if that's what you want believe. By the way...
"Bummer, I guess"
> Then there’s Gura being mad the homo didn’t include her in the collab song or bringing them up over and over when she played games like fire emblem. They have to
Nice narrative twisting fanfic, homobegging sister.

>>67486373
WTF are you going on about?

>>67486107
it made me imagine scenario of this situation that would consist solely of CGDCT part. For example Fuwamoco, IRyS and some Mumei
>complete awkward silence broken with single "that's nice" from Mumei out of guilt at 2nd tempus

>>67482570
There was no real antagonism here, not even upon Tempests debut which was somewhat warmly received, until collab beggars started shoving the boys into /hlgg/ and management started pushing them everywhere on official stuff/collabs. The damage is permanent, they should have listened to Shinove.

>>67486673
They're not the Vtubers we deserve, but they're the Vtubers we need.

>>67486745
Careful not to sprain yourself from all those mental gymnastics kek

>>67486107
I'd have been fine with FWMC doing the same as Ina but going completely silent was extremely based.

>>67486151
>Making up retarded homo narrative about frigging Gura of all people
Pathetic.

>>67487280
This is why they make the big simp bux. No fence sitting, just pick a side and let the Ruffians know that's where the party is.

>>67482570
Most people were apathetic at best. They had some fans of course, but people mostly just tolerated them because it wasn't worth fighting over. Since they weren't getting hate, it might have looked like they were loved since the only people bothering to post about them were the ones who liked them.

Tempus forced people to care because it was no longer a distant issue.

>>67482570
It all started when Krooni dared going vocal against unicorns. They got their feelings hurt and are having a tantrum since then.

>>67485706
oh no! what awful things did they do?
>they're in a promotional video for their company's expo for 1 minute, an expo they've been in before
>they're advertised by their company whenever they have a special event going on

could it be something they've done on their streams?
>they're kept to themselves and doing their own thing
>they're collabing outside the company more often than inside

the schizo poster lacks any subtlety, no research, no facts, only their undying love for white women behind anime avatars acting like preteens.

This whole thing seems blow way out of proportion, i wouldn't even know this "drama" is happening if i didn't used vt today.

>>67486227
gura wouldn't do that anymore either

>>67487389
No this started way before kronii. It started right around the mori and connor arc.

>>67486181
>They went out of their way to unfollow the Holostars twitter account and cheered for everyone except holostars
Absolutely nothing wrong with the first part and Ina was also pretty lukewarm in the stream when the homos showed up, that's on cover for expecting the girls who never interact with these guys to shill them like they would their hololive senpai, what do they expect them to say.
>Even Gura acknowledged them before
When they were sprung on her at a con with a literal video message she politely complimented them sure, but she has pointedly ignored everything to do with them since, and has never said one word about tempus.

I won't make excuses for the people acting like clowns in that comment section but you have shitstirrers from all sides in there, a lot of them likely not fans of the girls OR the homos that were "snubbed" and neither fuwamoco or Gura encourage their anti behaviour by simply ignoring the stars.

>>67481980
Upper management still has hierarchy over janitorial staff retard. If you want to insist on using janitors then the other example would have to be like maintenance staff or some shit like that.

>>67479199
the youtube comments are calling bae "based" for shilling the homos? what a bunch of retards.

Is anyone outside of vt talking about this?

>>67487755
check the usual japanese drama channels, they are posting about this and like the EN reaction.

>>67487750
And all the containment breakers with socket puppet accounts are any better?

>>67487755
Only the youtube comments, which are practically filled with tards from here. Nobody else seem to care, or at least not yet. Some drama troon like that falseyed guy will manage to turn this into something ebin and rile up another bunch of retards in a few days.

>>67487772
So this whole situation is just a circle jerked drama slop?

>>67482570
Honestly this board was surprisingly stable after the debut of Tempus. It wasn't until Kronii collabed with them that things went to shit. Everybody knew Mori and Bae were gonna do it, but Kronii was an upset.

>>67486673
Slow your role their buckaroo. Those vtuber awards don’t mean anything. There’s only 3 vtubers in a league of their own and the only one among those 3 in the west is Gura.

>>67487825
If he didn't cared about the fauna "drama" he hardly will care about this too.

>>67487622
Gura at least was professional enough to acknowledge them for that very brief moment. Your grifter dogs showed their true colors your money is all they want and as such they will behave unprofessionaly when their monthly income from mentally ill incel is threatened. Gura did everything right. She doesn't care about the homos at all but she's a professional so she did what she had to do. For all the shit you faggots say about kurosanji everyday such as shitting on the clique or family when hololive does it and proves to everyone watching that the whole unity shit is nothing but fucking bullshit you faggots sweep it under the rug the same way cover sweept aloe and mel being sexually assaulted by one their employees under the rug.

>>67487952
Well, he's just one of the 10+ drama channel fags lurking here and trying to leech off everything anyway

>>67476258
You drop this queens

>>67487444
I watched the stream and didn't realize retards were whining about it until I opened the youtube comments section, there's a fake war going on in an army of schizos' minds when in reality it's just a company promoting their own talents, the talents themselves probably don't even know what's going on either.

>>67487622
>that's on cover for expecting the girls to be professionals and do their jobs

>>67487952
Was there a comment section on the official channel full of incel vs femcel slapfighting back then?

>>67487823
You have to understand when they do it doesn't count! They can't never do anything wrong those poor troonicorns.

>>67485057
Friendly reminder that their contract restricts dating inside corporation.

>>67483569
Lamy actually acknowledged Stars when she was touring the Fes floor a few years back. She didn't immediately go silent after oohing and ahing, then go back to it after more girls showed up.

>>67488055
I could fully believe that they just didn't know who those people are and had no intent of ignoring them.

>>67487316
Anon please act like you’ve been here longer than a day.

>>67482154
HOLY KINO

>>67479577
Holostars. Are. Not. Hololive.
That is like saying Barq's rootbeer is a cola because they are both Coka-Cola products.
You are retarded.

why the fuck are you guys arguing over an analogy about ceos, upper management, maintenance, and janitors?

>>67487986
Homostars are not Hololive. They do not deserve to be in the same league as the girls.

>>67488069
>professionalism used as an argument until it's about the girls going out of their way to spite the fans and hang out with homos then it's LET THE GIRLS DO WHAT THEY WANT INCEL
>blaming FWMC for being unprofessional when they are some of the hardest working girls in the company and contribute far more to it than your 3view homocraps
you "people" are a joke

>>67488055
Should we report every single of those shitty youtube comments and get them removed?

>>67488172
>>67488210
Holofes is a Holopro event. If there's art showing all Coke products at some big event, someone from the Cola side isn't expected to just go "fuck Barqs!".

>>67487090
Only fuwamoco and Mumei would be silent besides it seems to be one from every gen. So Gura would’ve been a better choice or leaving ina

>>67480744
Kek

>>67488172
>Holostars. Are. Not. Hololive.
Never I have said that. I said company.

>>67488292
The staff is actively deleting them, surprisingly, from both sides. They might've set up some automod that shadowbans people based on certain words.

>>67488081
The same could be said for pot-stirring homobeggars like (You)

>>67488210
>Appear in Hololive Expo
>Wearing shirts that say Hololive
>Theme is called Hololive Island
Sure buddy

>>67488210
And hololive isn't just cover corp holostar are also part of cover corp. Now give me your next mental exercise routine.

>>67488292
you should report to your boss that you've recently been prescribed anti-psychotics before you get back to flipping burgers, as far as I'm concerned those who believe this to be any real drama needs a reality check.

Why are almost all the angry homobeggars in this thread so thoroughly ESL?

>>67487090
Mumei is not as fanatical about the homos as FWMC. Add Fauna or Gura and you would 100% get complete silence.

>>67488147
Write more overexaggerated rrats.

When idolm@ster does franchise-wide collabs/events/etc. they have no problems advertising SideM along with the female brands, don't see why Hololive fans are so autistic about this.

>>67488210
Holostars are part of Hololive Production. The Holostars and Hololive branches are united together during the Holo expo.

>>67488493
because they hired latin american and SEA talents, gaining viewers from those regions.

>>67487554
>anymore
How would you know when she never streams? Only FWMC has a perfect unicorn record.

>>67488405
Homobeggars weren't the one who shit stirred the hornet nest the top comment show of you faggotrons breaking containment and is such it was responded to in kind. Cry more. You faggots started some monkey shit flicking war on YouTube just so you can point fingers at the other side. Get fucked retard.

>>67488505
>Gura
>100% get complete silence.
Wrong: >>67486227

>>67482570
The whores tried to "help" Tempus instead of letting them be

>>67488493
Only third worlders and women watch homos.

>>67481795
>>67482001
>Why won't my girlfriend fuck other guys? She must hate men, and by extension, hate me as well.
Same energy, lmao.

I'm autistic, but holy fuck I'm not that autistic to be seething over something of a nothing burger like this

>>67487131
They weren’t warmly received but the issue wasn’t even cover pushing them. The issue was first off them saying all the girls gave them a warm welcome behind the scenes which wasn’t a lie but also not the truth. Then came the lie from Mori, that either she came up with or management, that they were the most popular generation ever so popular that they had to break the rules. A rule that survived Gen5, myth, council and Holox mind you. And then came the girls acting different followed by shitting on their fans. Honestly the hate for them was almost entirely caused by the girls though if you asked me people should’ve went hard on them the moment they were announced. Could’ve nipped it in the bud

>>67488400
That's good to know. Hope they deleted the top comment at some point too.
>>67488456
It's not a real drama, hence why those shitpost-tier comments need to be purged.

>>67488085
non-fraternisation policies are ineffective. When people want to fuck, they will fuck. Even Bill gates, the biggest nerd on the planet, ruined his marriage by fucking his secretary.

>>67488641
never forget that when kronii started talking about shinri and how they shared the same taste in games, shinri's response was to tell fans to stop bringing his name up in other peoples' streams.

>>67488412
>>67488425
Sure, homobegging faggot. Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

>>67488712
>shitting on their fans
how did they shit on their fans ?

>>67476258
What they did was extremely rude and unnecessary, no one would've given them shit for giving them the same energy they gave to their female coworkers

>>67479803
For real dude. When I watch a stage performance and I only know one actor, I only clap and cheer when that one actor is bowing at the end of the play. I go quiet and might even boo for every other actor. /s
I mean seriously, that's an insane cope.

>>67479577
Kinda insane take ngl. Hololive made Cover what it is today, not Holostars. The girls owe NOTHING to the Stars cast, especially not Fuwamoco who has struggled to get where they are now. No way in hell they're throwing their fanbase away to shill homos.

>>67487825
You’re a faggot obsessed with dramafags. You’re gayer than the homobeggars

>>67488654
Only third worlders and yuro fags seethe at women treating their male coworkers like humans beings.

>>67488821
Wrong, sisters and homobeggars would be shitposting about every minute on /here/

>>67482001
It's kinda funny how you cucks have a mental breakdown because the girls don't want to throw their career in the gutter just to shill your virtual boyfriends.

>>67488085
Matsuri literally explained it they can’t date or sleep with staff members

>>67488582
What a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. Such a typical homofag response.

>>67488821
True, Cover really is a piece of shit agency for trying to rope Fuwamoco into shilling Stars. They should fire the retard manager that set them up to fail like this.

>>67488804
So now hololive and holostars are under the cover corp umbrella? I know you're retarded but please have some common sense.

>>67481795
Fellas, is it gay watching girls?
Would I be manlier and straighter if I only watched boys?

>>67488346
Holofes is hololive only retarded newfag

>>67488852
But they owe to cover, especially the ones who failed hard before joining the corporation.

>>67488852
You and 95% of the monkeys here gave no fucks about fuwamoco until they joined cover corps. Where were all you fags when they used to stream for an audience of 50 people? Stop it

>>67488517
>MUH UNITY
So tired of this shit. I don't wanna see the NijiEN "family" situation all over again.

>>67488504
Open wide newfag, those are all things done by Kiara it was obvious sarcasm. You know why it was obvious? Because gura was used she can’t even without 5 different timestamps being made and even more obvious she completely ignores them

>>67487935
The only reason Kronii was an upset is because there was always a bait thread almost year-round calling her a man-hating tranny so people convinced themselves she wasn't going to interact with them based off their personal delusions so when that DBD collab happened of course they were going to lash out. Shit she even said as much when the fucking falseflagging SCer with the Vesper icon asked her about it, she said she was open to collabs if people asked which I imagine a lot of people took at the time as "when pigs fly" sort of scenario if it wasn't for management trying to push the HoloPro bullshit around the same time and encourage the intergender stuff.

>>67479577
I do think you are sort of right especially if they knew before hand the stars would be appearing.
They dont have to go all in just a "Holostars will be doing their thing too, good for them" would pass

>>67488916
You hate the truth little man?

>>67488947
you only watch males for tutorials on repairs or farming and discussing ethics. Anything else is gay territory.

>>67488859
I genuinely can't imagine how much of a turbo beta cuck you have to be to whiteknight for fucking homocraps. The branch is filled with fags, SEA and whiney sex pests and you're here crying that the girls aren't beinding over and sucking their micro dicks. Lmao.

>>67488814
Pick a month near their debut and watch the catalog explode from statements by the girls

>>67488765
That comment only happened because some beggars kept spamming his name in chat about it.

>>67488821
What do you mean? They reacted to all Hololive talents they're supposed to.

Can we shit on the one who decided NOT to remain silent during the holostars section?

>>67489155
>incoherent schizo rambling.
I accept your concession.

>>67486227
Thats why Gura is the top. The perfect balance of respect yet making it know she doesnt want to collab

>>67489262 (me)
*like they're supposed to.

>>67489276
Ok tranny, I hope your beloved homos read this.

>>67489274
She did nothing wrong though. She did what her viewers expected, exactly what FWMC did.

>>67488921
Homostars is not Hololive
>b-but they are s-same company
Doesn't change a thing. They are NOT part of Hololive.

>>67486151
>Then there’s Gura being mad the homo didn’t include her in the collab song or bringing them up over and over when she played games like fire emblem.
Gura never even played Fire Emblem, you dumb cunt. You're thinking of Kiara and she mentioned the collab song once.

>>67489120
No it was because only 3 or 4 members completely ignored their debut, ignored their names, tried to dodge their supers, and didn’t follow them on twitter. One of these members was Kronii and she was the first one to get got by the long superchat that ends with a homo mention. Then she stated I never spoke to them and don’t know anything about them which is why she didn’t follow them. Few days later she followed the grey one and then the collab happened. If your only hololive interactions came from Kronii you wouldn’t have even been aware they debuted. Even fauna followed them before kronii

>>67482848
>>67484556
/sp/artans may be familiar with this one: Draymond Green talking about the WNBA
>"There's no argument for lack of popularity unless you make those that say they stand for male vtubers actually stand up. Hololive wasn't always the major vtubing agency that it is today. It wasn't always driving as much CCV and supas as it does today. But there were gachikoi and goslings behind it, building the fanbase, and more importantly telling INDIVIDUAL stories and building up the interest in their oshis. That's how the girls took off. Who's building up y'all's fanbase? Who's telling the individual stories of how great "da boiz" are? Building the interest and transforming Holostars into 4- and 5-views without needing to leech off the girls?"

>>67489127
As true as whatever you pull out from your ass, homobeggar.

>>67489155
Honestly you can like the homos if you want seeing how being gay is legal in some countries but I really can’t understand defending them against the girls. That’s some legitimate cuck shit it’s like you’re trying to live vicariously through them

>>67487986
Mel was never sexually assaulted you fucking subhuman piece of shit. She was stalked by her former manager who knew her schedule. Cover handled it poorly, but she wasn't raped or molested or assaulted, you shit-eating tourist cunt. I am so fucking sick of asshats like you spreading that about poor mel.

>>67489509
Did you catch fly going over your head with these reflexes?

>>67489123
It was a stream on the main channel, not on their. It was a stream to specifically promote the Holo expo as a whole, not just hololive. Yet by having that reaction, they put their own interests above the company. They favored their own fan base above the general one. It's not bad bad but it's not professional. "They had one job..."

>>67489274
Nah, I'd rather not. But only because I like her MV featuring all of HoloEN.

>>67488147
NTA, but you're a fucking moron.
>>67489509

>>67489764
What are you even talking about, you dumb chink? You made shit up about Gura and I called you out and corrected you. Eat shit.

>>67489483
They'll still under the same umbrella and this art expo was for both of the branches. But keep burning brain cells doing mental gymnastics.

>>67489736
Cover fired him, he never touched her, and Japan has 2 or 3 strike rule against stalkers. What was cover supposed to do I’m actually very curious seeing how you say they handled it poorly.
Also mel’s a dumb whore she was molested by her female manager later so saying poor her doesn’t make sense. Almost every Japanese girl faces harassment at least once so whores are bottom of the totem pole when it comes to sympathy. Girl in kawaii was molested as a little girl on a train, miko was nearly raped, marine nearly molested a shota. That’s just japan

>>67489696
It's sisters larping as dudes, a few degenerate SEA fags using the dudes for their coomer fantasies and some leddit tards who don't watch streams and only care about winning internet arguments. Check any of their splits and they are all filled with sisters spamming gay porn. Check their streams and you'll realize half of them are gay and the other half are glorified Nijimales. And yet here we are with tards trying to claim that you are crazy or a troon for not watching obvious fags aimed at women. It's unreal.

>>67489736
And cover did nothing but fire the guy and sweep it under the rug. Your point is?

>>67489509
Wasn't it because someone superchatted her asking about it?

>>67489893
>>67489952
Retards are hilarious

>>67490054
I know you’re a schizo but does anybody ever do a quick google search to learn about japan’s laws

>>67490054
You are a total idiot if you actually think that's the case.

>>67490054
>cover did nothing but fire the guy
Yes. What more could they have done? Cover is no police.

>>67489999
Where did you find all these rrats?

>>67487443
I have no clue how "if you don't want antis for a fanbase, don't go out of your way to attract antis" could be so controversial you somehow wrote an essay about the voice in your head but here we are.

>>67490123
>turbo virgin who looks like this and gets angry at women for treating their males coworkers like human beings is calling somebody else a schizo.
Kwab ngmi.

>>67490060
Says the retard.

>>67488069
Fuwamoco are complete professionals, as some of the JP girls have said it's like they have been in holo for years with their confidence and ability to build a strong fanbase, 73 episodes of a morning show without missing a beat and streaming almost every day. Great control of the crowd in their convention appearance. Appeals to JP talents and fans almost as much as they do EN and has shown they can shill as well as the JP's. Professionalism isn't the issue, they want them to put up a pretense of unity. Like I said. What do you expect them to say? What do you expect any of them outside of Bae who actually interacts with them to say?
>Oh here are these dudes that don't exist to us 99% of the year wooo you go guys
It is 100% on Cover, if they insist on putting the homos front and center in the promotional stream on the HOLOLIVE channel then they should get some ID girls and Bae and Mori if they want an actual reaction to the males.

Fewer people would watch if only the "unity" girls were hosting but hey that's a tradeoff they should make if they insist on this path rather than expecting talents who don't interact with them to play pretend. Management issue.

>>67490263
Nice deflection. Got anything else?

>>67486227
What is this about?

>>67490263
Kek, if someone who looks like that is blowing the fuck out of your argument this thoroughly, then isn't that even more pathetic on your part according to someone like you?

>>67490214
>Mel talked about her female manager kissing and pushing her down
>Miko said a man attacked her and she pushed him off
>Kawaii girl said she was on a train in loose clothes and a grown man was looking down her shirt and she didn’t know what to do. It was back in elementary or middle school
All from the horses mouth you can find it on stream or through clips. They all joked about it though kawaii girl was plastered

>>67490263
He looks happier than you.

>>67490263
Did you respond to me by accident or are you saying Mel should’ve made nice with her stalker? If all your pussy comes from girls you stalked it’s called rape

>>67490406
There was a really famous clip of Roberu playing amongus with English speaking fans where he says he was in cafeteria but there was no cafeteria in that map, so he says "I meant cafeteria in my soul" before he's ejected. It went viral around the time of Gura's debut. Everyone knew about it and saw it back then, but this anon is trying to say that Gura was a huge fan of holostars or something because she knew the quote that literally every person knew.

>>67490750
Thinking about it, the majority of Roberu memes, starting with the winning son that skyrocketed his popularity on the west, have started from /hlg/. There were memes about Shien's autism and Aruran as well later and those spread from the thread as usual. Are we the responsible for this whole debacle?

>>67490750
Gura acknowledged the homos. FWMC never has and never will. They're not the same.

>>67490310
you might bitch all you want, don't change the fact that they muting themselves there was unprofessional behavior

>promotional stream on the HOLOLIVE channel then
exactly, the company both the girls and the homos work for

>expecting talents who don't interact with them to play pretend
expecting professional behavior isn't playing pretend

>>67489274
I'm not into Bae but at least she wasn't being unprofesisonal
what the dogs did just showed everyone they're just chasing the bags but hey nothing wrong with that! though I'll never view them the same ever again after this

>>67491237
>They're not the same.
Yeah Gura's a consistent 5view lmao

>>67489274
Fuck off.

>>67490750
So the options are Gura was invested enough into homos that their clips appeared for her on a site she didn’t use much at the time or she saw the meme made about it on instagram.

>>67490750
Damn that's some schizo shit, took me multiple rereads before i finally understood what everybody in the conversation meant. Thank you for the explanation anon.

>>67491237
No point shit stirring, both approaches have their merits. Gura is known for ridiculing dumb parts of fanbase (remember LOLI ?) and there's nothing wrong with that. It's good that she uses her position to set records straight.

>>67491478
>company both the girls and the homos work for
They work for cover, hololive productions cope aside they are a different branch and the males being on the hololive english channel is not standard, check for yourself, they havent pulled that shit since the first tempus watchalongs.
>expecting professional behavior
Reminder Ina also got stunlocked and could barely manage an awkward mumble until she collected herself, making me think the inclusion of the homos was sprung on them. So lets talk about management being professional instead.
Management should be in touch enough with the talents content choices to not invite certain talents to shill the homos in the first place if they insist on having them in the stream, that's my main point, that would constitute professional managment in touch with their talents.

You can have fuwamoco do a great job of shilling or being on any promotional stream EXCEPT ones that are shilling the branch they purposefully ignore, but managment failed to understand that and instead invite talents who could give them what they were after.

>>67491478
Wrong “Hololive” only has females. And before Yagoo started acting like a faggot there was a clear unbreachable line

>>67490258
if that's an essay for you then you better study up, those middle school book reports aren't gonna write themselves.
dealing with retards on this site is harder than I remember, I'm responding to someone's absurd statement here.

>>67491628
The "pule iduru" speech on debut and leeching off Coco were enough to tip you off?

>>67492066
It was holoexpo pv as opposed to holofes pv done by JP not to mention Bae was involved. I doubt they weren’t aware she was probably just shocked that the twins muted their mic which would be hilarious

>>67479577
The customer is king. They know who their real bosses are.