/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

What?

>>6735777
They got chinks for NijiEN wave 2

>>6735777
The faggot is implying something because he is a racist, that's all.

>>6735815
Its not just that really, Petra's statement pretty much kills any possibility, unless Cover goes with the chink money again I guess.

>>6735821
Its more about the whole Taiwan shit

>>6735727
If they wanna collab with less risks, they can but they should exclude the pengiun.

>>6735889
Yeah, nobody believes this. They could collab just fine. Holofags would just throw a fit, stop projecting your own schizo behaviors onto easy targets.

>>6735727
KILL YOURSELF COLLAB BEGGAR

I hope it never happens, I would hate to see Kiara drag Pomu or Finana down to her level.

>>6736017
Kek.

>>6736017
>Niji elitist
kek I though this was just shitposting

>>6735835
1. Petra Gurin support "FREE HONG KONG" in twitter
2. chink found out and request apologies while Petra Gurin is working in bilibili
3. Petra Gurin apologized as you known

there's two final answer
A. Petra Gurin is chink
B. Petra Gurin isn't chink because she actually support "FREE HONG KONG"

(You)'re real retarded if (You) select A

I’ll gladly take any NijiEN collab over the likes of VShojo and e-celebs, at least they’re both vtubers and kino
But seeing all the chink deal which makes me confused, I’ll actually ask, what’s the worst that can happen?

>>6735835
Why? What did she do this time? Qrd please.

>>6736075
>what’s the worst that can happen?
Holofags have a meltdown over it.

>>6736082
search the archives for any bilibili links. Should find it pretty easy

>>6736075
>what’s the worst that can happen?
Holofags that still holds a grudge to anyone with chinese connection whether it is ancestry or hongkong will lose their shit, throw a fit and drag every NIJIEN until Nijisanji will nuke the branch.

>>6736082
Her bilibili post from old account

>>6736067
>This pasta again
Why are you faggots like this?

>>6736227
So all taken care of huh Holofags? What's the fucking problem? Are Mori and Kiara ever going to apologize for calling people niggers to their burger audience?

>>6736082
She posted Free HongKong in her Twitter and forced by chinks to apologize.
She then posted an applogy saying she supports one china policy

>>6735727
>Collabing with chinks
No, thank you

Why not just exclude the Penguin for the collab, I know its tempting to hype the cunny collab with Gura, but maybe skip it to prevent drama.

>>6736182
>Hold a grudge
chinks are still actively attacking Hololive talent right now.

>>6736051
>Niji elitist
Not really, I watch HoloJP 90% of the time, but you have to be stupid not to realize that the girls that Niji went with are objectively better streamers, more entertaining, and don't even get me started on the chemistry between the branches. It shouldn't surprise you given everything that's transpired over the past few months that Cover is making one bad decision after another, and those bad decisions bleed into their hiring and scouting process as well.

>>6736347
So that is a roundabout way of saying he is right but they started it first, huh retard?

>>6736231
Chinkysanji needs to cope, please understand

>>6736127
>>6736182
I mean, I like Hololive and only recently I started to take interest in NijiEN, they seem alright
If it’s for any chink thing, I actually don’t care. Sure, the CCP is the Devil, but at least I understand why trying to make amends and no one is being thrown under the bus
From my perspective, all the panic is only to fuel tribalism and rratposting

>>6736362
Oh, so you are just shitposting

>>6736362
>>Niji elitist
you could have just said yes

>>6736431
Feel free to disprove anything I said.

>>6736075
>what’s the worst that can happen?
The dissolution of NijiEN, no really, they'll drag themselves to this complicated geopolitical nightmare if it happens

>>6736447
You have to be stupid not to realize that the girls that Hololive went with are objectively better streamers, more entertaining, and don't even get me started on the chemistry between the branches. It shouldn't surprise you given everything that's transpired over the past few months that Anikara is making one bad decision after another, and those bad decisions bleed into their hiring and scouting process as well.

>>6736530
I accept your concession, now run along and go watch Gura make funny noises for an hour.

>>6736075
>I’ll gladly take any NijiEN collab over the likes of VShojo
Also vshojo are the most hunted ones for collabs from both niji and holo, seems like they are the only strategic option for collab in EN since I don't think both are aware of others in EN

>>6735727
I don't see why a cross collab couldn't happen
but seeing how holo and niji dont do cross collabs anymore I guess it would be a while before we see it.

>>6736463
Do you really think zhangs would throw a fit over the EN branches collabing? Or specifically about the penguin?
It’s not like zhangs are the most brilliant people, they still believed Aqua is on their side
>>6736579
Why are you like this?
>>6736630
I suppose it’s because of the Twitch audience (eww)

>>6736067
The real answer is that Petra is a apologist to China, and wants to speak the language, whether chink or not.

>>6736362
>chemistry
Potassium + Water?

>>6736747
The only way for it to happen is by organizing an event that invites both sides to be on the same panel, there's no way these two will be together outside official events

Petra isn't a mainlander and she lives in Japan. She supports the free Hong Kong movement. She herself says her Chinese isn't fluent. She isn't a part of VirtuaReal, their Chinese branch.
This'll all blow over in a week, a collab will be decided sometime in the far future and you'll wonder why you all gave this so much weight. Petra abandoned her past life and everything that came with it, including any kneeling to the chinks. She's starting anew. The only thing people really have on her current self is that she knows the language to some extent - and even then that's only considered a crime by the biggest extremists, as Botan herself was going to put effort into learning it.

>>6736913
Mainlander or not, apologist or not, there's no way Cover conservatives gonna approve any collab with her, it's too risky

>>6735727
>So, I guess this is never happening now, uh?
Good
>Kind of sucks for those who are not tribalists and just wanted to see a cool collab at some point.
Kill yourself
>UUUH LOOK IM NOT TRIBALIST
>IM PART OF THE GROUP(MY TRIBE) THAT ARENT TRIBALIST
>SO IT SUCKS FOR ME AND MY PEOPLE

Im just on that tribe that arent tribalist

We? Tribalists who just want to see everyone collab? no were arent like those tribalists that wont let people collab, we actively want people to collab

>>6737076
Nijisanji has collabed many times with Hololive after the Taiwan incident. Besides Aqua, pretty much the entirety of Hololive has been blacklisted by China. But there was no issue collabing with them, and Nijisanji was not blacklisted by China as a result of these collabs. I think a collab between the ENs as a result would be a non-issue.

>>6735727
nothing changes everyone knows that niji still has weak knees

>>6737076
Do you mean /vt/?
>>6737117
Okay dramanigger

>>6737223
Bro stop being a tribalfag

Why cant you be like us who just want everyone to be obligated to collab despite EVERYTHING?

Fuck tribalists
t. tribalist

>>6737271
Who's claiming anybody is obligated to collab? Meds.

>>6735727
They would have collab by now if either branch was interested, they are the two biggest vtuber agencies in the world and have a history of collabing, there is redtape stopping them either.
Yet, they instead want to collab with Vshojos whores, pornstars, anitubers, and other undesirables.

>>6737292
True they shouldnt, and no one should claim them SHOULD collab

But of course if they dont collab its because of tribalfags

Me?

I just want to see cool collabs, I WANT THEM TO COLLAB

>>6737170
>I think a collab between the ENs as a result would be a non-issue.
Probably, but if it even comes with a tiny risk of reigniting the taiwan bs, why would cover take the risk? It's not like they stand to gain anything from a nijien collab, so the risk vs reward doesn't add up.

>>6737152
Why are you not in the tribe that support the wishes of the talents instead of pushing personal projections onto them?

>>6737117
>Some people actually think hating Tibalists is a form of tribalism in itself
I know this post is 100% bait, but it still worries me that there ARE people who actually have this thought process

Petra was forced to apologize or else she'd be attacked by antis. Why are you blaming her? Do you want her to double down and be forever swarmed by antis? Do you just hate vtubers?

>I WANT THEM TO COLLAB
>I WANT THEM TO COLLAB
>I WANT THEM TO COLLAB
>I WANT THEM TO COLLAB
>IM NOT A TRIBALFAG YOURE A TRIBALFAG
>You dont understand, they NEED to collab

>>6737223
I mean he's sort of right in that if this does spread to 5ch at least, Cover is absolutely known for trying to ensure no drama happens if they can just kneel instead. If the 5ch threads start a stink over Petra, you can bet that there's no way she's ever collabing with HoloEN no matter how much both sides want to. Maybe this'll be the first time the just stick the middle finger up to them. If HoloEN members themselves don't want to collab because they're worried, that's their choice, one I don't find anything wrong with.

>>6735727
It's going to happen.

They certainly would make a better fit than with Vshojo, but seems like that ship has sailed now.

>>6737355
>Probably, but if it even comes with a tiny risk of reigniting the taiwan bs, why would cover take the risk
The same reason they take the risk collabing with a company still balls deep in China every other time they do it, nobody cares.

>>6737377
>>Some people actually think hating Tibalists is a form of tribalism in itself
Well some people are accurate on what they actually think

Like i gues braincells exist for a reason, weird i guess

There are actual people who hate other tribalfags and think theyre not tribalfags despite being tribalfags, i call them mentally challenged

Once HoloEN Gen 2 debuts I think there is a chance of it happening, big collabs are a Niji/Holo thing.

>>6737344
>>6737406
samefag, take your fucking meds

>>6736075
>what’s the worst that can happen?

Retards on /vt/ throwing a tantrum. HoloJP still collabs with NijiJP all the time. Niji chink fans don't give a fuck.

>>6737445
5ch knows about Petra's past life and the only people who care are unicorns that're mad she is an open fan of male livers

>>6737373
Maybe some of their personal projections include keeping their ambient the most secure and less stressfull as possible?
Aka not wanting to collab with everyone and their mothers?

Think you retarded tribalfags
>UUH COLLAB RIGHT NOW!!!! IF YOU DONT YOURE BEING TRIBALFAGGED!!!

>>6737271
What the fuck are you talking about?
I’m not talking about collabs, both “tribes” shit up the board with rrats and bait
I’m not begging for collabs, I’m just not opposed to the idea

>>6737373
Because the wishes of the audience actually matter, and the western streaming scene pretending that they don't, while hordes of white knights and cucks compete to see who can be the most subservient to their e-thot, is what drove me to vtubers in the first place.

>>6737445
5ch only cares that she said Ibrahim's name and is tainted the same way Elira is tainted because she said Fuwa Minato's name.

>>6737558
It's funny how nips are less butthurt about chinks than americans.

>>6737573
seethe

>>6737525
>thinks im trying to samefag
go take your meds

>>6736067
Well that doesn't hide from the fact Selen is a chinks, some anons pointed out that she has thick chinese accent

Ame, Calli, and Kiara talk to them over twitter on a regular basis, so I don't think there is any animosity between them or some manager banning communication, so who knows why they don't want to collab though.

>>6737617
regardless if you're trying or not you effectively are, nobody is forcing these girls to collab they are debating the possibility if it WILL happen, you are an actual retard

>>6737568
Not like being opposed to the idea is something bad
And the way these "tribes" form is literally part of the whole "idol" culture

You literally cant spell "idols" without "tribes"

They even have a name for those "tribes" you fucking retard kek

Its how things work, its how you work aswell

>>6737377
Reminds me of people talking about the intolerance of intolerant ideas. There's actually a lot of people who sadly have this thought process.

>>6737566
>UUH COLLAB RIGHT NOW!!!! IF YOU DONT YOURE BEING TRIBALFAGGED!!!
Nobody is saying this.

>>6737645
>some anons pointed out that she has thick chinese accent
Then they're fucking deaf, she sounds like a fat Canadian.

>>6737675
>regardless if you're trying or not you effectively are
Oh so replying more than once is samefagging so youre samefaggint aswell?
Why even call this out are you mentally retarded?

Regardles
>nobody is forcing these girls to collab
Well there are actual faggots(tribalfags) who WANT/NEED them to collab for some retarded reason and if they dont see it happening they blame it on other tribes

>they are debating the possibility if it WILL
Youre just delusional and retarded, fucking take your meds unironically

>>6737573
> post honeymoon effect
Go to the next vtuber and reset your honeymoon phase, anon.

>>6737743
I mean it sucks for us non-tribalists, to want these people to collab, its all tribalfags fault of course

We non-tribalists would always allow people to collab if they want to(pls do i want it)
>>6735727

>>6736227
>person takes extra measures on protecting their career because of how petty chinks can be
Now, where have I seen this before?

NijiEN won't collab with HoloEN any time soon, not because of this imaginary Petra yab, but because HoloEN is allergic to collaborating and socializing. 2 days after debut Obsydia is chatting with their senpais in JP ID and EN, not to mention Elira organizing a collab with Ban Hada of NijiKR, Pomu upcoming collab with Pikamee, and Finana regularly replying to indies. The girls all chat with each other on Discord every day. They even talk to NijiJP off screen.

>>6735727
lazulight + obsydia = 6
holomyth + irys = 6
if they can both front a TF2 team, when's the match?

>>6737794
>Why even call this out are you mentally retarded
Because you keep spamming a claim that nobody is making.
>Well there are actual faggots(tribalfags) who WANT/NEED them to collab for some retarded reason and if they dont see it happening they blame it on other tribes
People want them to collab, yes. Nobody needs or is forcing them to collab. Learn the difference between a wish and a demand.
>Youre just delusional and retarded
Speculating on whether higher ups will allow a collab to go through is the theme of this thread. The only one delusional is (you), who sees anons as shoving two groups together who already have a long history of interaction.

>>6737403
Sure, but why even bother with bilibili? There's 0 incentive to stream/post there other than chasing Chinese money, and that has always been a time bomb. It's like actively toying with a wasp's nest that somehow has gold inside of it.

>>6737871
I have legitimately no idea what argument you're trying to make here. Are you a self-identified tribalfag getting butthurt people are shitting on you?

>>6737927
Because she speaks Chinese. This is like asking why people speak Japanese on NND

>>6736383
Isn't a grudge something that forms after not during a incident?

>>6735727
Why in the everliving fuck would you want holobronies watching NijiEN? This is like running a steakhouse and saying you want the McDonald's audience.

>>6738052
Most of the NijiEN audience overlaps with HoloEN you fucking idiot, its already happened since their debut.

>>6737915
>Because you keep spamming a claim that nobody is making.
Are you mentally disabled?
It is what OP said
>People want them to collab, yes. Nobody needs or is forcing them to collab. Learn the difference between a wish and a demand
A wish is a demand you stupid mentally disabled person

Demands occour, thats why you have people unironically DEMANDING them to collab, like theyre probably are a majority i dont how you can either so blind and retarded

>Speculating on whether higher ups will allow
Yeah but the debate didnt start with higher ups allowing someone

The debate started by stating "non-tribalists"(tribalists) wishes to see people collab regardless of every single detail there is in the middle
>>6735727
>so i guess this is never happening
good
Having this opinion is part of the debate you absolute donkey
>speculating on whether higher ups will allow

Sure thats part of the debate aswell you stupid fucking monkey

>>6736227
People seem to forget Cover wrote they respect the one china policy too, in their Taiwan apology on bb.
If anything, it'll be Petra's chink fans who'll fuck over a collab with Hololive, like they did with Mea+Aqua.

>Why in the everliving fuck would you want holobronies watching NijiEN? This is like running a steakhouse and saying you want the McDonald's audience.

>>6737969
Im obviously pointing out tribalfags who want everyone to collab because they want to are tribalfgs (who unironically think they are not)

Just pointing out the obvious basically
>>6737377

>>6738131
>A wish is a demand you stupid mentally disabled person
Ah, so you're retarded. I'll leave you to your schizophrenic babbling then.

>>6738131
What the fuck is this nutjob talking about?

Given the numbers nowadays and the streams it's pretty obvious they heavily overlap each other when it comes to fans. You can see the holotards in NijiEN chat all the time enjoying the stream.

>>6738013
There are Chinese speaking people outside of China that also don't use bilibili, and not every single Japanese person uses NND. Is she Chinese and living in China, Chinese living outside of China, Chinese born in another country or just has interest in the language? Because outside of option 1 and maybe 2 there's not a lot of justification for using that hell site.

>>>6737915
>>Because you keep spamming a claim that nobody is making.
>Are you mentally disabled?
>It is what OP said
>>People want them to collab, yes. Nobody needs or is forcing them to collab. Learn the difference between a wish and a demand
>A wish is a demand you stupid mentally disabled person
>Demands occour, thats why you have people unironically DEMANDING them to collab, like theyre probably are a majority i dont how you can either so blind and retarded
>>Speculating on whether higher ups will allow
>Yeah but the debate didnt start with higher ups allowing someone
>The debate started by stating "non-tribalists"(tribalists) wishes to see people collab regardless of every single detail there is in the middle
>>>6735727 (OP)
>>so i guess this is never happening
>good
>Having this opinion is part of the debate you absolute donkey
>>speculating on whether higher ups will allow
>Sure thats part of the debate aswell you stupid fucking monkey

>>6738187
Well yeah throw the table and call me names because youre too mentally disabled to understand basic logic

>a wish is nowhere near a demand
>thats why people who WISH something to happen are the ones DEMANDING for that to happen aswell

Its not your fault you dont understand basic reasoning, it must be me who is a babbling, yea
>>6738202
>NUTJOB NUTJON
>HE SAID MANY WORDS OOGA BOOGA
Americans

>>6737904
You would need to nerf Salad somehow. NijiEN has like 3 deadweights while Ina might be the only deadweight, but Salad would literally 1v11 them.

>>6738249
sir u are writting too many words i cant read and because of that youre making no sense to me youre wojack sir

>>6737324
Mori wanted to collab with Ironmouse because she saw our shitty meme picture making fun of the two. Kiara wanted to collab with her "sister" because she was lonely and her birdbrain literally only thinks of hot girls, Pink Cat was a consolation prize. None of the rest give a shit about Vshoujo, or everyone else you listed for that matter. Also, the girls are pretty fucking awkward. If they're asking/organizing anything between the two groups, we won't see the results for months.

STOP BEING A TRIBALIST EVEN NIJISANJI ANTIS TRACK AND HARASS ALOE IRL AND MAKE HER GRADUATE!
WE ALSO TRACK AND HARASS LULU TOO!
STOP BEING A TRIBALIST!

actually persuasive

>STOP BEING A TRIBALIST EVEN NIJISANJI ANTIS TRACK AND HARASS ALOE IRL AND MAKE HER GRADUATE!
>WE ALSO TRACK AND HARASS LULU TOO!
>STOP BEING A TRIBALIST!
>actually persuasive

>>6738403
Based tribalists

>>6738296
Things being related are not the same as them being the exact same. This is like saying wolves and dogs are the exact same because dogs descended from wolves. This is your last (you) from me, but please be aware that you have an extreme form of brain damage and should see a doctor immediately.

>>6737893
Kiara will collab with anything, Ina, Calli and Ame collab with JPs all the time and even chubas outside their company now, even Gura has started doing too, it seems they were just heavily restricted for a long while due to manager issues according to Calli.

>>6738215
They have the same stream times as HoloEN and they themselves overlap with each other all the time.
I understand they have no obligation to not overlap but doesn't it just hurt their growth in the long run?

>Things being related are not the same as them being the exact same. This is like saying wolves and dogs are the exact same because dogs descended from wolves. This is your last (you) from me, but please be aware that you have an extreme form of brain damage and should see a doctor immediately.

Do no worry, bros. There will be a Gura/Gurin collab after i save Petra from the mainland.

>>6738523
They are stupid and proud

>>6735727
I was for it when gen 1 was introduce, not anymore. Doing it now would just give the chinks a signal of the holo en girls being interested in gaining their attention.

>>6738144
They wrote it.
And not only this board, but even reddit was shiting on Cover for weeks for it.
Regardles who you are, indie, company, hollywood actor.
If you clearly and loudly support main policy of country who act like III Reaich in '37 you should be despised.

>I was for it when gen 1 was introduce, not anymore. Doing it now would just give the chinks a signal of the holo en girls being interested in gaining their attention.

>>6736227
If you hate Petra for this you're obligated to also hate Ina for kneeling to protect her art career.

>They wrote it.
>And not only this board, but even reddit was shiting on Cover for weeks for it.
>Regardles who you are, indie, company, hollywood actor.
>If you clearly and loudly support main policy of country who act like III Reaich in '37 you should be despised.

>If you hate Petra for this you're obligated to also hate Ina for kneeling to protect her art career.

>>6738624
Who says I don't?
Any faggot like John Cena who kissing China's ass deserve nothing but contempt
>>6738588
>If you clearly and loudly support main policy of country who act like III Reaich in '37 you should be despised.
Pretty much

>>6738588
>>If you clearly and loudly support main policy of country who act like III Reaich in '37 you should be despised.
What if I clearly and loudly support the main policy of the 3rd Reich itself?

You know the thread went to shit when wojaknigger appears

>You know the thread went to shit when wojaknigger appears

>>6738403
lol

>>6737792
>Canadian
Is there a difference between CCP chinks and Candians anymore?

>>6738763
Who are you quoting?

>>Canadian
>Is there a difference between CCP chinks and Candians anymore?

>>6738588
>They wrote it.
So did Petra retard.
I doubt either support it, especially when the reason Petra supposedly got shit was for tweeting #FreeHongKong

>>6738624
I was just sharing screenshot to answer anon question.
But yes, Ina never was my favorite and I stopped watching her completely in the last month. Eve if I understand her motives and know that Coco would suggest her the same.
And don't hit me with Niji vs Holo dispute. I shit on both when ther is reason to

>>6738720
It depends on which side of German bagnets i would be.

>>6738837
In a way I have nothing against the girls at all. But I also don’t want to get involve with them or want hololive en to get involve, mostly due to the possibility of what kind of “fans” they can bring in.

>>6738480
Theyre related in the sense that most people who wish for something to happen and are vocal about it also demand it to happen.

Doing the WISHING entails followed DEMAND, theyre correlateed in this sense

Not that theyre "uh related i guess" like dogs and wolfs

Youre legit mentally retarded

>>6735727
They should never collab. They would have nothing to talk about and it would only make everyone sad.

You know the thread went to shit when wojaknigger appears

>>6736227
Imagine if Cover simply let Coco do a hollow apology like this when she was able to. No spam, no antis, no graduation, everything would've been as it was before the yab.
Instead, they turned the entirety of Hololive into a shitshow.

>Theyre related in the sense that most people who wish for something to happen and are vocal about it also demand it to happen.
>Doing the WISHING entails followed DEMAND, theyre correlateed in this sense
>Not that theyre "uh related i guess" like dogs and wolfs
>Youre legit mentally retarded

>>6738480
also
>uuuuuuuuuuh dis is my last reply im not dumb ur dumb dogs and wulfss

You legit have a mental disability

>>6738980
That's understandable, but the only way we can fix the China problem specifically is WW3 and nukes, so I think it's dumb to blame individuals for not wanting to ruin their lives to change nothing.

wojack poster always spices shit up

>That's understandable, but the only way we can fix the China problem specifically is WW3 and nukes, so I think it's dumb to blame individuals for not wanting to ruin their lives to change nothing.

>>6739044
Collab beggars are the worst subset of shippers.
Nothing productive will come out from threads like this.

>Collab beggars are the worst subset of shippers.
>Nothing productive will come out from threads like this.

>>6739078
Again, I am not blaming the girls, just don’t really want them to interact with each other. Is asking them to stick to their own lane that mess up?

>Again, I am not blaming the girls, just don’t really want them to interact with each other. Is asking them to stick to their own lane that mess up?

>>6739060
It wouldn't work.
Chinesse antis had a Coco hate boner for long time.
Choco said Tibet, there was lot of dislikes on video and that's all. Korone shown Taiwan flag, nothing happened. When Haachama displayed her statistic, ther was only mild spam that would die after few days.
But when Coco did it, the anti machine started working at full speed and no apology would help (and no, she didn't do it to protect Haachama, som viever jsut asked about her statistic)

>>6737792
She's both, her Dokibird account has pics of her

>>6739866
Coco actually hates Haato so she purposely made a mountain out of the molehill to ruin haato's career.