/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Did anybody really unironically thought it was her though?

She absolutely snitched on Mel lol

>>67186373
she has a record of backstabbing and lying for her own benefit
and only remembers she's an EN vtuber when she needs to play the victim because the japs caught her causing shit again

>>67186373
^

That sure means a lot coming from a known backstabber.

qrd on this “incident”?

kotoka you are just going to streisand effect the shit out of it now and never live it down..

>>67186368
Some people really are stupid enough to believe baseless rumors yes

>>67186491
mel termination

>>67186476
She has other incidents other than the Zaion one?
>>67186491
Suspected that she snitched on Mel

>>67186236
Did someone really believed in that rrat that i purposely spread because i hate Kotoka? kek

>>67186236
Well I wasn't thinking of it before, but I am now

What an odd thing to say...

>>67186491
Rrat is that she is the one who killed mel.

>>67186491
>>67186373

>>67186491
>kotoka and mel have an offcollab
>literally like 1 week laterm Mel gets fired for breaching NDA
>mel says she had confided in someone she trusted in a tough time and got snitched on
>kotoka is already thought of as a snake in the grass for throwing zaion under the bus instantly after she got canned

I don't know if she really-did it or not but the timing is so unfortunate that it looks like it's actually-possible at the very least. like being seen on-site just before a murder happened or something even though nobody actually-saw her do it.

It's japan who thinks it was her which is why she tweeted this in english.

>>67186590
This is fucking damage control.

>>67186236
>use English
>twitter not yet catch with the rrat
>late to give clarify
someone from EN rat it to her

>>67186653
Stop trying to cover for her. This has been talked about since Mel was terminared.

>>67186236
>I was not a part of the suspected incident in any way
What an incredibly suspicious thing to say

>>67186823
Be stupid and believe everything you read on the internet then, it doesn't affect me

>>67186236
Funny thing, that shit never got out of /vt/, the only one who talked about it was brownvtmemes and he put "speculation" on the tweet.
So... the rrat never broke the containment at all, or she saw everything /here/ or someone talked with her about this.

I'll say it again, if Kotoka said she didn't do it, then she didn't do it, anons. Case closed!

>>67186941
It gives serious "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" vibes.

>>67186863
>>67186968
lets be real its Reimu isn't?

>>67186763
Nah, in all seriousness, the timing should actually clear her from suspicion. Cover likely had been investigating Mel for a while (Rushia's case was obvious with Krkr showing the messages and it still took them 2-3 weeks to look through those and question her) so the fact that their collab got an OK from Cover that close to the termination indicated that Cover didn't think she was a suspect

>>67186823
And this is still a baseless rumor

>>67186763
How long have the two known each other?

Sounds pretty suss to me. If you didn't do it, you wouldn't say anything.

>>67186968
Retard Japs believe it because she was the last one with her
It's not just a /vt/ thing when her home turf is also saying it

>>67186968
your actually retarded if you think that, that shit leaked on all the sea facebook's, iketog, all over, nothing ever stays here, stop being brown

>>67186979
>I'll say it again, if Kotoka said she didn't do it, then she didn't do it, anons. Case closed!

another Jussie Smollett

>>67186236
It's so fucking wild she would just engage this rrat directly kek

>>67187173
just recently, and mel also said 'someone new she trust'

is this the schizo thread?

>>67186968
>that shit never got out of /vt/
Nah, I saw some containment breakers mentioning it on leddit and if it got there, it's probably everywhere

Why do are niji organs so retarded? No one cares about Mel anymore and now you feed a rrat to make people suspect you.

>>67186236
maybe she stop browsing /vt/

>>67187461
PR trick. All PR is good PR

>>67186236
kek it's so funny how twittertrannies read the most baseless rrats on /here/ and just spread it on twitter like it's gospel. Nobody even believed that particular rrat even in /hlgg/ but i guess if you repeat it enough it will gain traction.

>>67186236
Why would she directly address a rrat that hasn't really left this place past a couple of mentions on Twitter?
What the fuck?

>>67186236
they collabed?

I’m not saying she’s the mastermind behind the incident, but this tweet is so incriminating it makes her look guilty or partly complicit. The bulk of NijiEN fans probably didn’t even know what was going on until now.

>>67186368
yes. the shitposts you see on the catalog arent just shitposts, the people who post them actually believe them

>>67187637
offcolab in mel house

>>67186763
>kotoka is already thought of as a snake in the grass for throwing zaion under the bus instantly after she got canned

This completely false

>>67187595
Likely some containment breakers DMed her with that rat

>>67187595
retard

>>67187235
That puts Kotoka under a lot more suspicion. It could mean any of the people she's gotten to know recently, but with the timing and Kotoka being a known backstabber...yeah.

>>67186373
qrd? missed the mel thing

>>67187728
2% so bad even pomu left

>>67187789
Yes, Kotoka is pretty retarded for doing that, but still

>>67187595
She doesn't give a fuck about EOP. Nips are spreading it.

>>67186368
this board

>>67186236
Kek, we got her, she is /here/

>>67186763
I would say this is probably true. Given the amount of damage control already going on I'd say there is a better than average chance this happened.

>>67187866
How the fuck does that relate with anything I said?

>>67186236
"I did not snitch on her, its not true. Its bullshit, I did not snitch on her, I did not. Oh hi Cover."

>>67186236
LOL WHY WOULD SHE SAY IT LIKE THAT?

>>67187859
>>67186763

>>67187859
Most probable rrat by the Japanese fans is that
>Mel mistakenly shares personal info of holos with someone else, people think it's kotoka
>Kotoka spreads it to others like male e celebs
>male e celebs DM the holo girls by their actual name
>the holo girls report it to management right away, leads back to mel
>she gets terminated

>I did not have snitching relations with that holo

I really hope you faggots weren’t breaking containment with this retarded rrat.

>>67187575
rrats I believe automatically become true

>>67188096
>>67188096
thought meloco not mel shieeeet

>>67187909
Why address it in English then, or did she also make a tweet in Japanese?

>>67187859
/vt/fags think that they can find out what happened to mel exclusively through things that happened on her stream because they aren't aware that she has an entire life in the 23 hours a day she isn't streaming

>>67186763
Literally nobody thinks poorly of Kotoka except the turbo-casuals here on /vt/.

You people don't watch vtubers, you just make shit up.

>>67187728
Lol, now show me all the mental gymnastics you are performing to convince yourself that publicly saying she couldn't wish Zaion well is not backstabber behavior. No, privately saying the opposite in a member stream does not absolve her and in fact confirms she is a two-faced snake bitch, the only way she can fix this is to make a public apology

>>67188234
In english precisely so nips can't read it. She mostly tweets and streams for jp.

>>67187909
not true at all. i didn't see her name mentioned a single time. nips are saying it was a fortune teller. it's common in japan that fortune tellers pull out secrets from people to then blackmail them for money. "if you don't give me $$$, i will tell your boss what you told me". that would also explain how Cover discovered about mel.

Is she retarded why the fck you will post that, if people are just talking shit dont bring it up even in HERE people already forgot, my god.

>>67188402
>She mostly tweets and streams for jp.
I thought she was in one of the Niji EN gens. Xsoleil or something?

>>67187137
I think their investigation was significantly shortened by Mel confessing

Remember when NDF jannies were in full force deleting replies on this rrat? And now we have the organs themselves talking about it.
kek

>>67188448
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

>>67188492
You see the funny thing about that is she didn't want to joint their VTA thing and basically applied to NijiEN to get a jump start, this is self admitted by her btw

You sisters are 100% spamming her on social media. There are tons of places that you have put this rrat.
And you started spreading it AFTER people were blaming all the outsiders she was collabing with.
Nevermind the fact it was a week before the announcement, which means it was certainly already decided by that point.
It was male e-celebs, essentially proven to be such because of how much you're trying to put the blame on someone it couldn't ever have been.

>>67188125
>streams as a vtuber for almost 6 years
>thinks sharing real personal info is okay
is she actually retarded?

>>67187595
>Drama addicted faggots invent a new baseless rrat about mel graduation, for the (You)s
>/#/ spread it because hololive good, nijisanji bad
>Brownvtmemes and other anons break containment for twitter interactions and attention, like always
>It's spread like fire over discord servers, iketog, twitter and reddit
>Japanese people on twitter catch up to it, and believe it because it's hard to fact check anything if is other language,
>Kotoka has to address it on twitter in a vague way

>>67186236
>No I was not apart of the suspected incident in any way
>not apart
She's definitely involved in that suspected incident

>>67186236
This stupid bitch definitely did it. Unity fags proven wrong again

>>67188492
I don't fault you for thinking she's nijiJP because she debuted in nijiEN and shortly fucked off to hang out with JP livers

>>67186236
I did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky

>>67188492
She mostly collabs with jp and speaks jp.

What does she even have to gain from engaging with the rrat? Ignoring stuff like this is the easiest way to make it go away. Acknowledging it will just fuel the schizos.

>>67188593
>It was male e-celebs
AH SHIT, here we go again

>>67188338
KOTOKA IS A BACKSTABBING BITCH AND ALWAYS WILL BE
I WILL SPREAD HER MISDEEDS TO THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE WORLD

KOTOKA CAN'T GET AWAYS WITH THAT, SHE NEEDS TO BE PUNISHED

>>67188492
she is one of the two that famously skipped Anycolor's Virtual Talent Academy by applying to EN instead

>>67186373
>でも中の人がお気持ち表明して猫のせいにしてたよ笑
sure she did. i didn't know kotoka identifies as a cat.

>>67188343
>don't wishing well to someone that was fired from your work, that you meet online for 3 months is backstabbing someone or throwing them under the bus

You have to let it go Sayu

>>67188702
This is the state of vtubers without tard wranglers or common sense.

>>67188402
>She’s addressing a rrat in english so Japanese viewers don’t know what she’s saying when those are the people that are spreading the rrat
Do you think before you speak?

>>67186763
>kotoka is already thought of as a snake in the grass for throwing zaion under the bus
This is only the deranged /vt/ theory. Most people didn't really care that Zaion got canned she just got latched onto the crowd here specifically because they project a lot if their own shitty rrats onto her.

>>67186236
lol Holotards really trying to blame anything besides the company they worship.

I thought the rat was some doxxfag. Did people seriously think it was Kotoka?

>>67188924
Nips aren't going to understand what she's tweeting and EOP attention spans have already forgotten.

>>67188568
well, it's a technique that has been used by yakuzas for years and there are entire movies based on it.

>>67188936
That is wishful thinking anon

NDF

>NijiEN
>allowing shitposts to munch on your grey matter
Never afore has there been such a perfect pairing.

>>67189003
Then why tweet about it all you absolute retard, that’s what I’m pointing out. Your logic makes no sense.

>>67188003
She has to do her own damage control because management will never help her with it.

>>67186236
Holofaggots will believe in anything as long as it paints Hololive in a better light.

>>67186236
I hate how an actually good chuuba from a shit agency gets constant bait on /vt/ over things Zaion herself said she moved on and forgave.
Hell, Zaion's entire generation was the only good one to come out of niji in 2022, real shame it all went to shit after she got fired.

>>67189100
Because she's a fucking retard no shit.

>>67186763
This poster is a skaven.

>>67189158
Maybe if there such a good generation, they should have fought harder to not let their genmate get fired

>>67189269
but enough about fubuki

>>67186236
LEAVE
KOTOKA
ALONE

>>67189100
How many times has a Niji member done the smart thing instead of the retarded thing?

>>67186236
I don't parade it as the truth, there is also nothing keeping me from being open to it being possible. Denying it publicly just makes me think that more people than I thought think it's possible. There is nothing actually proving or disproving it. It's strictly a decent sounding rrat that is actually plausible.

People were blaming her?
I thought it was some guy/e-celeb in the GTA VCR or whatever. I know she's an easy target after the zaoin thing and Nijisanji just being a shit company overall but it's weird people instantly pointed to her.

>>67189269
Wait, yeah you're right what the fuck? Xsoleil is all snakes jesas

>>67189352
>nijisisters
Is that a term of endearment now?

>>67189352
>nijisister
kek

>>67189431
it was pekora she failed to get rid of miko but succeeded this time

>>67189352
>nijisisters
holy kek

Imagine inventing rrats like this just to harass vtubers you have never even watched. Holobronies are truly vile people.

>>67189352
>nijisisters
My sides

>>67189158
>good chuuba
>NijiEN
>Streams in JP 99% of the time

>>67189526
How many rrats have you made about Gura's absence this month, sis?

>>67186236
my god girl, anyone who thought you were wouldn't believe you with this, you just gave it more visibility.
Whether you were or weren't, you would obviously deny it.

>>67189590
That just makes it better as it filters seething eops

>>67189623
nta but at least 3

>>67189352
>nijisisters
Really?

>>67189444
Obviously
They all said the same shit that she refused help and then fish starting whining about gaslighting

>>67189151
Shame that Nijitrannies can't get a pass because they're never in good light

>>67188338
There are more people who think poorly of Kotoka for what she did to Zaion than there are people willing to watch Kotoka at all.

>>67189269
Dude, she got herself fired by going against japanese autism corpo culture, she basically lied to her manager, genmates and other coworkers, then insubordinate against her manager, even if she was in hololive she would have gotten fired. Her genmates didn't know shit until she was on the brink of being fired with concrete proof against her.

Besides, I know you are just shitposting to get (You)s, no one in /vt/ actually watched Zaion, and the few people that actually watch Sayu that aren't bots can't even get more than 50 replies in a general thread that has been open since yesterday
>>67135228

>>67188936
>Most people didn't really care that Zaion got canned
This won't be true no matter how many times you repeat it sister.

>NDF going all out and falls back on Zaion shit to defend their precious Kotoka

>>67186236
Did that many people really accuse her or is this her getting oneguy'd? Because if it's the latter, I feel like that just makes her look guilty to a lot of people.

>>67186763
I don't think an investigation would be over in a week, I don't believe Cover management is that efficient.

>>67189836
Hey now, that thread looks a lot more comfier than the hellhole that is /NijiEN/

>>67186968
>>67187595
Go out you cretins. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't exist outside of /vt/.

>>67189836
>even if she was in hololive she would have gotten fired
lol no
we've already seen twice that you literally have to do something super bad like break NDA to get fired from there.

>>67186368
I love how this anon asks this question and the thread immediately proceeds with the rrat

>>67189269
They tried, but niji management is complete evil garbage, and at some point it's just out of your hands.

>>67190021
break NDA repeatedly*

>>67189891
>>67189909
Zaion/Sayu will always be the boogeyman for Nijisisters until the end of time

>>67189980
>27 IPs, of which 8 are the same dude bumping the thread so it doesn't get deleted
>Barely any discussion at all
>64 post in 18 hours
>comfy lmao

There are 3 main possibilities and combinations of these 3:
1. Kotoka did it
2. A guy from GTA VCR did it
3: Someone she is friends with IRL who we don't know of
Denying it does not make it less likely. The list of people who deny an accusation, but are guilty is longer than the fucking Bible. But this also doesn't mean she did do it. It just means she is now aware of it.

If you look in the comments of the video, only english ones are bringing this shit up. Don't lie about this being a 2ch rrat

>>67189836
That "concrete proof" was only concrete because Sayu dropped the document lmao
And even then those infractions were blown up to make her look like the spawn of Hitler
I guess the Niji propaganda worked on you

>>67187136
Circumstantial evidence is still evidence.

>>67190014
I didn't know the nips where talking about this, i don't understand moon runes yet.

>>67190224
We never got proof of anything Sayu said was truth, all she did was release a google doc replying to every point of her termination saying "um nuh uh"

>>67190144
I mean, I'd imagine those anons have better things to do than being terminally online seething at rrats. Maybe they have friends who they're hanging out with. You wouldn't know what that's like though, sister

I haven't seen single rrat about this until this thread. She's really stupid and so is the management.

>>67190353
Were you just not around on /vt/ when she was terminated?

>>67190304
I'm still waiting for Niji to publicize their counter document with screenshots of their chats

>>67190304
she literally got her own lawyer so AnyColor couldn't countersue just because she revealed her side of things.

>>67190304
>>67190398
But they won't do this BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH>>67190304

>>67186236
why say anything? anyway, I hope she suffers for real but given how snakes are they usually don't.

>>67186368
I believe it. You anons are always right for the right reasons

>>67190395
I don't spend all day here but I personally hadn't seen any threads about Kotoka at all until this. Just a lot of scattered rrats in the various threads.

>>67190452
Snakes are cold blooded

>>67190522
I see. There was a time when like a third of all new threads were about this. But I can't say I necessarily blame you for not seeing it in the chaos.

>>67190527
so are Vampires

>>67189352
>Nijisisters

>>67190435
In Anycolor statement they gave Sayu a breach to reply the whole drama without breaking the NDA

The lawyer was there only to her don't overstep the bondaries

>>67186236
Kotoka, you fucking bitch! Naked dogeza now while I bang your backstabbing hole. You will not be forgiven until I fill your bitchhole to the brim with sperm.

>>67188758
Are you fucking retarded? Her name is literally TORAHIME
Do you know what a Tora is ? Not to mention she has a fucking cat on her tits

>>67189352
can't help it when I like eating livers

>>67190527
>>67190585
Kotoka is both

>>67188724
BY MY COCK

>>67190895
Yeah it's the Jewish bible

>>67190895
It's referring to Mel's catposts and her personal account.

>Make this a learning experience, OK
Yeah, I think I learned enough about you.

>>67189352
>Actually calls herself a nijisister
Is like when black people turned "nigger" into their own word?

>>67190324
Thing is she did have a healthy and thriving general when she first came back to Sayu. It just died for reasons completely unrelated to the firing Collabing with known vtuber doxxers, twitter meltdowns, the entire nina yab . At least half the original /ss/ anons got turned off by her.

I genuinely don't care if she's lying or not, she deserves it for throwing Zaion under the bus, and she's stupid for addressing to a rrat that was being spreaded only by containment breakers

>>67186968
It was in the pre-chat of Gen 1's statement on Mel. Way before here or anywhere else.

Why say something that you could only prove by showing your private chats?
Regarding Mel's termination everything is a rrat, what is the info leaked, who did it and why...we dont know shit. Just saying I didnt do it, is way worse than being quiet.

>>67191203
>Educate yourselves
lol

>>67191203
she sounds fucking annoying

>>67191355
She IS fucking annoying

>>67191225
Honestly I can't blame her for that, she's been through hell and back

>>67191335
And here's the proof for those that can't look. Make of it what you will.

>>67186236
She's only making herself look more suspicious by addressing it at all. It's not like she can prove herself innocent so why even say anything?

>>67191399
Hey, if what I put in my spoiler didn't stop you then more power to ya brother, but for alot of us she just came off as too menhera. I tried to give her a chance early on, but every now and then she'd have a pretty bad meltdown and I just lost interest.

>>67191225
lmao, that thread was full of sisters baiting 24/7.Anyone that wanted to discuss Sayu in peace went to discord.

>>67186236
I did not have sexual relations with that woman

>>67191203
>our community
>runs away to the JPs any chance she gets

If this isn't a deflection from male e-celebs I will cut off my balls

>>67191594
Nah I was never a Zaionist but I'm just saying I can understand why she did what she did

>>67191605
>Discord
You aren't making yourself look any better
also if that's the case why are catalogue threads and the general still being made?

>>67191746
Anon did you forget the point of 4chan lmao

the privacy of the talent is incredibly important as proven by this board and third world sea niggers time and time again. remember doxxbeats? holoniggers are now trying to memory hole manually

>>67186574
>ignore drama
>shitposters take the lack of acknowledgement as an admission of guilt and run with it
>dramatubers pick up on the shitposts and start spreading false rumors
>now your career is permanently damaged by lies you couldn't even respond to

>respond to drama
>shitposters realize it gets under your skin and just amplify the shitposting
>the response is taken as an admission of guilt and run with it
>dramatubers pick up on the shitposts and start spreading false rumors

Really is there any way to win in this situation? Kotoka tried ignoring it when people spread lies about her and Zaion, and now she's addressing it properly with people spreading lies about her and Mel, so what else can she possibly do?

Sisters are already finding some people who spread the whole rrat about Kotoka and Mel on twitter kek

>>67188251
>what happened to mel
Are you retarded? Mel herself established the facts with her statement. The only bait /vt/ got was speculating about who was the person that Mel talked to and betrayed her either on purpose or indirectly.

>the rrat didn't break contained
It was clearly coordinated from a discord or shittstirrers or something, probably Phaseniggers. /vt/ was just one of the many places they posted it on.

>>67186236
methinks the whore doth protest too much. Now I actually believe the rrats. Bitch got Mel canned.

>>67191658
>not apart
google apart

>>67191909
Yes, there is a way.
>ignore drama
>shitposters are irrelevant
>shitposters lack any attention span
>shitposters moves on to something that elicit an actual reaction
>now your career is still shit because you're in NijiEn

>>67191909
resign in shame like she deserves

brownvtmemes ruined the EN VTubing fanbase

>>67191594
>>67191703 (me)
Post termination she was probably unhumaned from the general vtubing community so only those who knew how she felt (dn) reached out to help her. But even after the document drop I can imagine her being constantly stressed over the possible incoming Riku lawsuit and the very much still existing Nijisister harassment. There's only so much you can take mentally until you inevitably have a menhera moment or two

>>67191868
You realize Nijinggers doxxed holo talents again and again? Their base is also nyfco, a literal dox site. Don't memory hole it faggot.

>>67191936
it was being spread all over those containment breaker twitter accounts

>>67191909
She can quit vtubing altogether

>>67192075
I didn't use apart retard

>>67192094
>>67192165
Proof that it was Phaseniggers.

>>67192094
good

>>67192162
Also nijiniggers dox their own livers pre-debut lmao they have no right to call others out

>>67186236
>>67186373
Oh. People think she's the one Mel talked to and got her fired?

>>67192086
Pomu ignored drama for 2 years and schizos still spammed the catalog with years outdated rrats about her when she graduated. Shitposters aren't normal humans, most of them are extremely mentally ill and will spam endlessly until they get rangebanned or the vtuber graduates.

>>67192088
>>67192173
Look at these fags, this girl did nothing wrong her entire career except being in Nijisanji and that alone apparently justifies her being demonized. They don't care that none of the rrats about her and Zaion or Mel are at all substantiated, they just see it as ammo to shit on her for...daring to be a streamer without the blue dorito logo? It's a fucking mental illness.

>>67191909
>>shitposters take the lack of acknowledgement as an admission of guilt and run with it
This point is retarded because if she hadn't said anything she would have had plausible deniability regardless of what anyone says. Shitposters are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
She's just Streisand effecting it now.

>>67189352
>actually calls herself nijisister
what the actual fuck

>>67186763
>mel says she had confided in someone she trusted in a tough time and got snitched on
So they collab once and people think they're bffs all of a sudden?

>>67192427
There are things called doing things offstream

>>67192377
Tell that to the subhumans who doxxed and harassed Zaion for months for half a rape joke

>>67188596
>is mel retarded
Unironically yes.

>>67192477
Oh yea, why didn't Kotoka put out a statement similar to this when Zaion was being doxxed and piled on in various social media?

>>67192427
You don't invite someone to your house unless you have some level of intimacy with that person.

>>67192427
The way she said it is clearly code for a man

>>67192539
She was already either out or on the way out of the company by then. Management would have hard clapped any niji for responding to that at the time.

>>67192414
>plausible deniability regardless of what anyone says
Since when has that ever mattered? She said nothing publicly regarding Zaion and the catalog just automatically assumes she's a "backstabbing whore" even though she cried in membership about how much she misses her and fought to keep her in Niji. You genuinely can't win.

>>67192477
What's that have to do with Kotoka? She didn't doxx Zaion and her fans aren't the "sisters" you hate so much. At least harass Vox or Hex if that's what you're going for. People said this same shit as justification for shitting on Pomu even though her fans were always nice to Holos and many of them came from the same fanbase as Holos. You fuckers are just assholes who love drama like gossiping teen girls, don't try to act self-righteous about it.

>>67192377
Gura doesn't even stream and Nijifags spams her baits for a literal year. Where were you?

>>67191524
It was already all over /vt/ before the 1 minute prechat

>>67192539
She did...saying that she couldnt wish her good luck. All the rrats of Kotoka being a backstabber, were fueled by Kotoka herself, like right now. She is retarded. Silence is better than saying stupid shit.

>>67192650
No but she fueled the flames and gave Nijisisters a reason to go even harder on Zaion. You can't deny that

>>67192545
Just because I invite you over for the cookout doesn't mean I'm gonna leak fireable info to you.

>>67192650
>She said nothing publicly regarding Zaion
Lol
Lmao

>>67189352
Its even dumber when the rrat was dead on this board after like a day. Nobody even remembered it because people were more depressed about Pomu's graduation and how Anycolor outright failed her.
And if the rrat was even posted a few times on Twitter its extremely doubtful it gained enough traction to even warrant replying. That's something you only do if a post or video gets 500k impressions. It's fucking baffling that Anycolor doesn't have a crash course on basic PR for their vtubers, it would save them so much fucking headaches.

>>67191335
It was stated as the reason minutes after the termination was announced, way before that video was put out.
The accusation came after it was pointed out that Mel was collabing with e-celebs, it has always been a deflection from that reality.

>>67191925
What facts, no one has any actual idea what happened its all vague bullshit changing every single day.

>>67191355
She is, she's legit one of the most transparently two faced people I've ever seen lol

I LOVE DRAMA SO MUCH SISTERS

>Pomu's menshi stream already clipped
>Kotoka rrats
>Selen is not back after almost a month
This fucker is gonna eat well this week

>>67192722
She really didn't. I watched her statements live when Zaion was fired, and she said nothing bad about her, it was just a standard "sad to see her go" statement the same as Gen 1 Holos did for Mel. Literally everything negative that came from this was from Sayu's pov spreading rumors about her former co-workers who can't even respond because they're under NDA.
Come to think of it the only two people who said anything negative about her firing were Finana and Hex, but somehow Kotoka gets all the harassment.
This shit isn't based in reality at all, and as a viewer I feel bad for this girl always getting blamed for drama that she had no control over just because brown people are obsessed with her employer.

GTA VCR bs was more stronger than her, but she revived the rrat

>>67192930
NijiEN's biggest mistake was going after the dramafags and not killing them.

>>67192974
Sisters got desperate and spread it around social media.
There's no saving Nijisanji but sisters can still harm Hololive by pushing e-celebs

>>67192950
a snake

>>67191909
Anon NO ONE was even talking about Mel anymore and no one would be discussing this if Kotoka kept her hands away from the keyboard.

Look, all I'm saying is it is a little sus when Mel gets wacked and left a note saying someone she recently trusted squealed on her. Now it don't take a discord server of investigators to pull up Mel's recent collabs and see the same sherbet headed Niji that back stabbed Zaion. I'm not saying she did it, but being in that same situation twice, this fast, just don't add up.

>>67192950
You really think Nijisisters were gonna hear "I couldn't even wish Zaion well" and think "ok, guess I'm not gonna doxx her"?

>>67189352
Heed the sister! Have you considered your oshi feeling?

>>67192650
I don't know about Zaion, but i don't think Holofans liked Pomu too much over the all out war comment.

>>67192750
You might have more braincells than the vtubers involved

Most people have no idea what the fuck she's even talking about so
text book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

>>67192650
>Since when has that ever mattered?
Since always.
>She said nothing publicly regarding Zaion
Anon, she literally said she couldn't wish Zaion well. Amongst other things. Publicly. Stop talking about things you don't know anything about.

>>67193111
I will treat their oshi the way they treat others' oshis

>>67192650
what compels nijifags to lie like this?

>>67192704
not being able to wish her good luck doesn't mean she couldn't say "think twice before taking in/spreading speculations..." and "...hoping that we can make our cummnity a positive one..." while Zaion was getting ganged up on

>>67186236
>Damage control
Okay so it was her, alright.

>>67193267
AFAIK Ren was the only one to say anything about the harassment and he wasn't even in her wave.

>>67192989
It's not only that, but the fact that they basically gave them tons of self-importance. Not only did they give them motivation to take down their company by reporting on every NijiEN-related fuck up, but they made them feel important in the community because now they felt like they were on to something if Anycolor responded to them with DMCAs.

>>67192950
It was not just a "Sad to see her go" situation. In public she said she "couldn't even wish her well", in private she basically talked about the good times she had in her, basically causing confusion on what she really felt.

>>67186236

>>67193337
Cancel her in public and say nice things in private, what a two faced bitch. Glad she's getting her just desserts

>>67193320
see, at least that guy is decent enough to do that.

>>67193371
lol

I really think it was Phaseniggers spreading this rrat. This was just a few days after they sent a drama bait SC to FuwaMoco. Some holo fans took the bait and started spreading it too.

>>67193371
kek

Is Kotoka retarded?

>>67189950
Getting one guy'd is a Niji EN Tradition. This is the only mark that shows she is in fact in NijiEN

>>67193483
>Are women retarded?
Yes.

>>67192950
All that shit you said could be true if she didn't had used "i can't even wish Zaion well" in the same sentence.
She did throwed Zaion on the bus with a single phrase.

>>67193449
Looks like an attention seeker that can't compete with oil barons

My favorite mental exercise to do is to take every supportive Nijisister comment to a liver and replace the recipient with Sayu, then laugh at their hypocrisy

>>67193483
She's an ESL Japanese Woman
Ultra retard combination

>>67186236
First Zaion and now Mel.....

>>67189950
NijIEN livers have a history of getting oneguy'd. This time is no different.

>>67189352
>nijisisters

>>67186236
why would you trust somebody in kurosanji tho, mel is really dumb for that

>>67193113
Holofans know and understand that she was referring to how NijiEN and StarsEN announced male vtuber auditions within hours of each other, resulting in an "all out war lol" to snatch up male vtuber talents. Only shitposter dramafaggots /here/ try to twist it to make it seem like she's declaring war on HoloEN

I don't believe males and the real identity of girls are involved in this, the rest of the jp holos seemed too nice about it.

>>67193048
Truthfully she has a lot of Japanese antis that were spreading this narrative actually.
See >>67191524
Twitter JP sisters hate Kotoka because she overslept a huge NijiJP event one time and have held a grudge ever since. They immediately started accusing her of being the reason for Mel's firing because they thought it would be funny. Then the catalog saw that and just latched onto it because "If the JP's say it then it must be true." It's a bit of a feedback loop.

>>67193091
For context the people doxxing her were mostly fans of the guys who don't even watch Kotoka. And they doxxed her before she even got fired, it was the moment she played that chilla's kusoge and joked about rape when they started harassing her. Blame Niji management if you want for not protecting Zaion from the hate, but I don't see what that has to do with the talents. Telling your fans to stop harassing someone isn't gonna fix things because anyone who is a true fan already knows not to harass people.

>>67193337
>It was not just a "Sad to see her go" situation. In public she said she "couldn't even wish her well",
The additional context here is she "couldn't wish her well, at this time" because she was still upset at Zaion for her behavior and processing the situation. I don't think that justifies over a year of harassment just because she had mixed feelings towards a former co-worker. Then that former co-worker started palling around with a doxxfag, and people even rumored that Zaion was the one who doxxed Kotoka, but Koto simply moved on while Zaion continues to say negative shit about her. Genuinely if Zaion had pulled all this shit in Hololive she'd be the most hated person in the entire vtuber sphere. It's been over a year and she STILL keeps constantly reminding people to dogpile on her former coworkers who had no control over her firing. It's unfair as fuck and if you guys weren't clouded by "niji bad" bias it would be really obvious what she's doing.

>>67186476
oh is this one a JP girl who joined the EN branch for some reason?

>>67193483
At one point she unironically thought people didn't know and couldn't figure out she was living in Japan and tried hard to hide it

>>67193554
Yeah but like more than usual

>>67193758
Kotoka and Meloco joined NijiEN because you are not required to pass the nijisanji VT academy.

>>67193728
Kotoka deserves the same amount of harassment Sayu got
>>67193758
She joined EN because it was easier than going through VTA to join JP

>>67193728
>over a year of harassment
Zaion's termination wasn't even a year ago

>>67193689
You guys always give the same cope, but you never consider why she needs to be in a group chat that shit on Holo in the first place. This isn't like the Nijis who never participated in Millie's secret chat. Pomu was there, participating in the conversation, complicit in what the others were saying.

>>67193758
NIJI EN btw

>>67193728
>she STILL keeps constantly reminding people to dogpile on her former coworkers
Proof?

>>67193758
when you join Nijisanji JP you have to endure their retarded vtuber academy
they basically got in through their ESL english and used that to indirectly become Nijisanji japanese streamers

>>67193728
>For context the people doxxing her were mostly fans of the guys who don't even watch Kotoka. And they doxxed her before she even got fired, it was the moment she played that chilla's kusoge and joked about rape when they started harassing her

Lies, nobody actually cared about the rape jokes and the shota jokes, the hate only started because of the termination.

>>67193337
Funny how Vox started the downfall of NijiEN
>pissed of the chinese sisters by telling them off
>did some retarded rm shit that got him doxxed which dramafag channels reported on
>anycolor strikes them to protect vox

>>67193855
>>67193879
Huh. I'm surprised NijiEN was okay with that kind of thing.

>>67186236
Why would you watch someone that ruined Mel's career?

>>67186236
What incident?

>>67194112
She made Mel collab with males?

>>67186373
she's not even that close to her, why would Mel confide in her of all people?
it was probably her eceleb bf

>>67193974
I clicked the mahjong video and she was speaking english every time I jumped to a new timestamp. Seems like she just bounces off whatever is being spoken in chat to me.

>>67194016
Another lie, she never talked about NijiEN after this menhera attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnP5bIRfwq0&t=11s

>>67186236
THE SLUT GOT MEL FIRED.
Also why is it in english? She barely streams in english

>>67186236
Wait a minute, I thought the whole "hurr durr Kotoka snitched Mel" is just another shitpost. Has it become too big so she had to tweet this? Or she overestimated the shitpost?

>>67194104
It's not true, Kotoka auditioned for Lazulight before VTA ever existed. xSoleil was her 3rd attempt. Someone asked her about it in membership and she brought it up again recently.

>>67193971
It was a vent channel, and if you look at some of the other comments in the chat (especially Mysta's), it should be obvious that it wasn't a dedicated "shit on Holo" channel.

>>67194263
she knows she is guilty and is now self reporting

>>67192650
>She said nothing publicly regarding Zaion
>"I don't even want to wish her well"

This is a psyop to pitch niji fans and holo fans against each other, by some other group
Also why the fuck are people saying e-celebs or kotoka based on the info given and not, like…. Kson? Or some close jp indie friend?

>>67193665
The bigger question is where did Kotoka even discover this rrat to begin with. Because looking up tweets under her name you could only find tweets accusing her of this with only 4 likes, tops? And twitter "views" mean nothing when the site is mostly comprised of bots.
This isn't like Luca getting one guy'd where he gets pissed that people send troll donos calling him out on stream or Aia getting one guy'd after egosearching and learning even the K-pop NijiEN fans do not care about her or later waves (like the "Golden 20" shitstorm), Kotoka straight up had to go out of her way to find these, and all she did is make herself look extremely guilty.

>>67194398
Because it was obviously male e-celebs?

>>67194348
you mean holo rent free channel

>>67194523
That channel does seem to be living rent-free in holofan heads for the past 2 years, yes

>>67193971
That wasn't a "drama" channel it was just a random channel in the Nijisanji EN discord server all the talents are in. They were discussing Tempus auditions, then Fulgur said something retarded and all hell broke loose when Petra leaked it. I don't see how that's Pomu's fault it's not like she told Fulgur to shit on Council. Especially since she's a fan of Council and talked about Fauna lots of times on stream.

It's kinda depressing that both Holo fans and Luxiem fans constantly shit on the NijiEN girls just because they're an easy target even though 99% of the drama is caused by the males. Pre-Luxiem NijiEN had zero drama whatsoever.

>termination occurs at vtuber company
>they, as well as the terminated vtuber in question, ask to not speculate or involve others
>vtuber from another company: it wasn’t me btw!
>by doing this she has directly inserted herself into the dialogue around the situation, rather than not feeding into speculation that would have died down because only a small majority believed it/were pushing it

>>67193052
Paulie shut da fuck up and turn on the T.V
My 2view goomar is on and I don' watch mah oshi knowing on account of your LOUD BITCHING.

>>67194442
>The bigger question is where did Kotoka even discover this rrat to begin with. Because looking up tweets under her name you could only find tweets accusing her of this with only 4 likes, tops?
sisters go out of their way to censor the names of vtubers when shitting on them on twitter. this isn't a new thing and most of them know it when egosearching.

>>67194398
>by some other group
*cough cough* I'm not it wasn't the folks who are notorious for having a kiwitard fanbase obsessed with drama and internet bloodsports *cough cough*

Why is it impossible for NijiEN to go 1 day without a yab?

>>67194776
Nijisanji's strategy is to shotgun a million vtubers with no advertising or promotion. So they are encouraged to create controversy to bring attention to themselves.

Kotoka for example has a 400 viewer average, and has some streams as low as 200. But by creating this drama (intentionally) she is getting millions of viewers from a much more popular person.

>>67194442
Wouldn't be surprised if Kotoka is the type who searches her own name and see if there is any drama or rumours.

>>67194840
Kotoka gets high spurts of viewership cause she can do something no one in NijiJP is allowed to do, handcam streams.

>>67194765
careful, don't want to expose jannies chosen people

Can she just leave the EN branch already? Most of her streams are in Japanese anyway.

>>67194699
But its not like they even censored the names, usually there throwaway accounts made by like a few people like this
>https://twitter.com/ijrahnie/status/1747491858832646230
And this is one of the most liked ones which barely has ANY worthwhile engagement to be worth addressing. Its fucking mindblowing that she would go out of her way to acknowledge something pushed by barely anyone, unless she actually is guilty of Mel's termination.

>>67194185
wouldnt be the first vtuber forced to collab with male by another vtuber

>>67195001
Same with Meloco. Girl can hardly form proper sentences in english.

>>67195096
Y-yeah but this case was clearly Cover pushing the girls in less comfortable situation financially into doing that content.
Cover pushed Mel into male collabs. Mel leaked to those Males. Cover is the reason for the leaks.

>>67194442
This was talked about on 5chan but it wasnt popular unless she was purposely seeking up tons of hidden information about herself

>>67186373
100% she did

>>67186236
Good job making everyone aware of this shit now, you dumb bitch

>>67195198
Is she afraid of Zaion getting back at her after the doc and outburts or something?

>>67193728
> additional context here is she "couldn't wish her well, at this time" because she was still upset at Zaion for her behavior and processing the situation
Anon that's not something you say in a fucking public broadcast. It's PR 101.
If she wasn't it a state to wish her well, then just don't mention anything about it.
Several of the holos were disappointed in Rushia for being retarded but none of them mentioned anything about "not wishing her well" in a fucking public stream. Anyone that had that feeling only expressed it to their members only.

Zaion's gone from your life, and "Zaion" is dead. No one likes those that speak ill of the dead, that's why she got so much hate. Especially so in hindsight, where niji was later revealed to have been lying about a lot of the reasons for kicking her.

>>67195181
cycle of abuse

>>67186476
do the JPs have a yab list for her or something?
I caught stray mentions of oversleeping some collab.

I DID NOT SNITCH ON THAT VAMPIRE WOMAN

>>67195377
She overslept a NijiJP Project Sekai tournament.

>>67193371

>>67186368
I didn't but now that she put that message out there I am starting to believe

Reminder brownvtubermemes is the one who started spreading this rumor.

>>67194776
>Holo yabs
>blame it on Niji
>Why can't Niji go 1 day without yab?
Insane mental gymnastics.

>>67195198
Is 5ch even an active site? Its fucking stupid to do if it was equally seldom discussed there too.

>>67186476
Anon, you can't say this without providing examples. What kind of backstabbing here?
Unless you mean the Zaion situation cause if you only mean that single incident then that is lame to make it seem bigger.

>"How can we make this topic turn into a Zaion timeloop?" The thread
What's funny is that Sayu has said on stream recently that she and Kotoka are on good terms nowadays. But of course dramafaggots don't actually give a shit about sayu lol.

>>67195527
>Holo yabs
>shitpost on /vt/ about it
>Niji comes out of nowhere and says IT TOTALLY WASNT ME GUYS
>That in and of itself isn't a yab
Even if she wasn't involved this is a no thoughts head fucking empty tweet

Rica unfollowed Kotoka by the eay

NijiEN was a mistake

>>67195611
don't care total nijiniggers death

>>67195496
This crossed most people's minds just by looking at Mel's past collabs. It doesn't take brown vshitter to see the obvious.

>>67195698
Is she even following Kotoka's roommate? That I think would be the bigger indicator.

>>67195685
You are right Cover and Anycolor should prepare a statement together to announce that she has nothing to do with it and kill the rrat, but you know that this is very unlikely to happen.

What I wonder is Hololive knew.
Did they find out themselves somehow or was it actually reported to them?

Anons mentioned the collab, was there anything said there which could count as breaching NDA in some way by accident?

>>67186368
if people don't like you any bad rumor is true

>>67196013
I imagine managers have the passwords to all of a holos accounts and they do occasional sweeps to look at any DMs and whatnot.

If you're gonna yab, yab on your roommate account. matsuri does all the time

>>67195611
They don't care so much about what was done to Sayu anymore, but they do care about what they "perceive" to be the moral character of an individual.
The action and its effect may be now be irrelevant (and forgiven by Sayu), but the perceived moral character of Kotoka doesn't fade away.

>>67195698
the ndf will still deflect

>>67195611
I mean, if we wanna play THAT game. The docs were also clear not to attack Niji or the talents.

>>67196013
It was an offcollab, they most likely kept chatting after it ended, and if the conversation veered into futire projects and stuff.

>>67196013
mel said someone she trusted as a friend reported her to holo

>>67195930
Unfollowing Kotoka doesn't look very good though. If Kotoka didn't do anything wrong then why unfollow her?

>>67195611
Link and timestamp?

>>67196341
I am very sure it didn't say that. Only she talked to someone she trusted when she was not doing well.

>>67196338
Yeah, even if Kotoka didn't do anything wrong I doubt Mel would feel comfortable with a friend of hers bringing it up again, let alone tying herself into the situation.

Something of note. Koto ego searches a lot. She even admit so in her debut month. That tweet was only intended for /here/

>>67196407
Yes anon, and the implication ia that said "trusted perso " went and ran their mouth and it eventually reached Cover's ears

>>67186236
Kotoka you fucking retard, I know you're lurking this thread so here's a 100x better way to address this if you want to address it at all -
> A reminder to not believe unfounded rumors about me or any other vtuber.
That's all you needed to fucking say.
No one other than absolute retards believed this shit in the first place (mentions of you were being downvoted and nuked in the holo subreddit, and people were calling out the retards spreading it), and this will give your fans more than enough to "protect" your reputation without mentioning any specific incidents, and it can be used for future rumormongering about you as well.

Here is probably what happened:
Kotoka and Mel talked 1 on 1.
Mel went a little loose lipped.
Kotoka maybe gossiped about it in the same way other talents talked about Holo in the infamous Petra leak.

>>67186236
What a stupid fucking bitch. Absolute mouth breathing fucktard

>>67196475
Yeah, I’m sure it’s primarily aimed at /vt/. Keeping her head down would’ve been 900x more effective than feeding the fire with a statement.

>>67196537
regardless Kotoka has been proven to be untrusty worthy and two face

>>67196475
But even then the mods did their damnedest to shut down discussion. And it never went anywhere even when they let the threads live, so why bring it up now unless she has a guilty conscious or is hoping for dramaviews to prop her channel up, or just doesn't understand how basic PR works?
For fucksake, unless it becomes an actual problem with Youtube vids reaching 100k+ viewers on that conspiracy theory and it actually affecting your livelyhood at NijiEN, there's no need to actually address it like this.

>>67189223
Ratmen? They're just a myth.

>>67196701
She isn't as problematic as the clique, but she does have her own faults
>>67196725
What you get for putting an inept Jap into the EN branch. She'll be constantly looking at how Westerns view her like a hawk

>>67196725
Maybe it's a mental illness thing.
>Mel has menhera attack, unfollows anybody who might be the snitch
>Kotoka sees unfollow, has a menhera attack thinking it constitutes an accusation
And so on.

Just what the fuck is wrong with her, if she was responsible for Mel's termination she essentially just pulled the most blatant "it wasn't me, btw", and of she isn't she just inserted herself into the whole drama

>>67196888
This would be the only other plausible explanation if Kotoka didn't actually do it, it just being one big series of misunderstandings. But as an outsider, what she did doesn't look good. Especially since she brought a JP-centered drama over to EN fans on top of that.

>>67196896
This is like a murder happened in s large city.
2 or 3 people gossip it was you.
You head the cops just to say it wasn't you.

>>67197017
Exactly. It would shoot you to the top of the suspects list and get you interrogated hard.

>>67189836
Anon Mel did something super retarded, but they sent her off with only well wishes from everyone without revealing ANYTHING about the specifics of what she did.
Niji could've gone for that vague route as well
> breaking Nijisanji internal policy multiple times
> not going through Nijisanji internal procedures for conflict resolution despite being advised to multiple times
> intentionally antagonizing other livers and management on multiple instances
And then just say the same thing cover did "yeah we can't manage her anymore, pls wish her well for future endeavours".
Also don't reveal on your fucking official Twitter that you do stealth suspensions for your livers you absolute fucking retards.

>>67195930
Weirdly enough, Rica is still following not-Kotoka, but not the other way around. Although, to be fair Kotoka hasn't posted anything on that account for almost five months now, so Rica probably forgot to unfollow that one as well.

>>67193111
She's right and all Japanese fans understand this, which is why Japanese people are often particularly appalled over how irresponsibly and without thought their Western fans act. Aiobahn had to spend this day on Twitter educating his EOP followers why calling a song "mid" during the premiere isn't nice. The last few generations in America failed in raising their children with any semblance of manners and it's frankly embarrassing.

>>67196397
I also want to see this.

Do we what did Mel even say that got her fired?

>>67197403
The main flaw with Japanese culture is their lack of honesty.
It is not a virtue.

Here's how most NDA breaches happen

>Fag talks about confidential info to friend
>Friend posts confidential info on the internet
>Most people think it's a rrat, nobody takes confidential info seriously
>Nonetheless, it makes some waves and someone from related company(ies) eventually reads about it
>They notice that somebody knows confidential info, it's too detailed to be a coincidence, meaning there has been a leak
>They narrow suspects down by figuring out who knew inside the company(ies)
>Everyone gets summoned in a meeting
>Tell there has been a leak
>Ask people to come clean if they told friend
>Ask them if they know the user who posted the leak (usually it's on a forum and there's a username)
>Eventually, culprit gets found and terminated

Leaking info to someone and then having that someone directly snitch to the related company basically never happens. Especially if they work in the same industry. Company would want nothing to do with the snitch as well from that point on. 99% of the times, companies realize there has been a leak because it gets posted on the internet (and while nobody takes it too seriously among the thousand rrats, they know it's real.)

>t. investigated multiple NDA breaches in the last 15 years, vidya industry

>>67197481
No and we never will.

>>67187845
I still think it's her, regardless of what she says for all the reasons already gone over by others ITT.
Thing is, from what we know she's the most relevant person regarding this that Mel could've confided in.
If she'd talked to some rando unrelated to vtubing it wouldn't matter. If she'd talked to another holo again it wouldn't matter. Talking to someone from the competing agency? That's like giving ammo to your enemies and would be grounds for immediate execution anywhere, any time and in any context which is what happened. She talks to this "nijiEN" who relays what was said and who told her to her manager who then refers back over to cover management since its in the interests of both companies to stem any leaks and so sharing this info between them is a professional courtesy.
It may not be, but she sure is the most suspicious named individual in this entire sorry saga.

>>67196896
To make it worse it was purely directed at /here/ since discussion about this in other places is pretty much non-existent, so she's definitely here reading threads. It just really doesn't look good for her to address it like this.

>>67186236
BETRAYER WHORE
>>67186368
MY MAN....I NEVER DOUBTED IT

>>67197582
You're misunderstanding the leak.
How can it be something that would benefit a competiting agency?
It would be financial. Information about sponsors, how much they pay for certain services etc.
That would definitely be relevant for e-celebs that are literally worthless but have been given an ego because of their internet fame.

>>67186236
I mean she doesn't have a lot of goodwill in the community not just the english speaking but also the japanese community for how she treated Zaion. The timing is also super suspect and against her. I still think she is a snake whether it was her or not.

>>67197619
There are JPs mentioning it "in jest".

>>67189158
> said she moved on and forgave

>>67195611
This still doesn't erase her comments towards her when she got fired. Everyone else either didn't comment or made a vague sad comment on it. Only Kyo, Kotoka, and Finana went full judas on her.

>>67197694
>she doesn't have a lot of goodwill in the japanese community for how she treated Zaion
Really? I thought they wouldn't care and Zaion's termination wasn't even on their radar

>>67197675
>financial and sponsorship info including future plans, if leaked, wouldn't benefit my competition in the industry because.. it just won't okay?!
r u retardo?

>>67197871
That's months ago, anon. She didn't had any menhera attack after that.

>>67197934
Are you? Are you trying to suggest the sponsorships for e-celebs are closer to HoloJP/Nijisanji than they are together?
It was obviously the male e-celebs.

>>67197871
That was what? 5 months ago?
Anon, if you wanna lie at least do it in a more subtle manner.

lmao. that was so weird. why would she do that?

>>67194016
https://streamable.com/uxu7dr
https://streamable.com/lrpi6w
https://streamable.com/wqj7i6
https://streamable.com/5bpz2u

>>67195611
> What's funny is that Sayu has said on stream recently that she and Kotoka are on good terms nowadays
reiterating >>67196397

>>67197888
You have it in the wrong direction. She lied to them and tried to drag them into her bullshit.

>>67195611
The Zaion timeloop is a NijiEN creation. You have nobody to blame but yourselves

>>67198303
Now youre the one lying

>>67198303
Hi Finana! That's not what gaslighting means!

it's pretty obvious she is innocent but the situation was too perfect not to blame her
like men look at her who wouldn't feel the need to make this menhera cry

>>67198339
>>67198326
uh huh

>>67198303
Why can I just hear this in Finana's voice?

>>67198303
Finana...

>>67198303
Please get off this board Finana