/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Selen you are next.
-Millie send her regard

>>67092049
I honestly think Konami approached her but NijiEN didn't want to do the work.

>>67092049
>Pomu was supposed to sing Sneaking neaking neaking instead of Mori
>management refused because of low corpo cut
>Pomu really wanted to negociated and management simply says no.

Each day i hate NijiEN more and more.
What shit they will do tomorrow?

How come people are speculating its Metal Gear or Universal related?

>>67092666
>What shit they will do tomorrow?

>>67092691
>life changing
>once in a lifetime oportunity

link to the last thread?

>>67092851
Got archived, too many shitpost on the catalog

>>67092049
luca's cocksleeve don't care

>>67092826
that doesn't necessarily mean its metal gear or universal related. I think people just said that to throw some anti shit on Mori

>>67092653
Membership torrent. https://gofile.io/d/TMiCC0

>>67092049
Previous: >>67076114

>>67092912
Cared enough to post. Your pathetic life will never amount to anything meaningful and "luca's cocksleeve" is more loved and successful than you. Now open wide, it's pagpag time.

>>67093051
struck a nerve I see

>>67092049
I'm not gonna take my meds, is it MGS? Maybe a collaboration with Mori to shill it? Anycolor didn't like that joint structure and Konami just gave only to Mori instead?

Or maybe an ambassadorship and Niji said NO, give it to a JP member so we'll see if that comes into fruition in the future with the remake

>>67093123
>Reply to something you hate
>"Y-you're the one angry"
also, what is with you and thinking about other people fucking? Mindbroken?

>>67092691
Kiara wanted to invite bomu to her 3D live but they (niji) didn't want to fix her 3D model

>>67092049
this was 7 months ago, why did no one clip it? holo memebership stuff gets posted all the time

>>67093296
delicious pissydachi tears, I love it

>>67092049
Nijisanji doesn't offer enough money to EN vtubers to put up with garbage management. They don't have the same amount of marketing or sponsorship deals as they do in the JP market. Pomu eventually realized that and a growing number of NijiEN livers will make the same choice.

>>67092049
I actually can't imagine how much it must hurt to see the management of other companies get sponsors and shit like with that Metal Gear Mori song or Vshojo getting into SMITE.
How is Niji so goddamn incompetent?

>>67093296
Don't feed the catalogshitters, it's not worth the trouble dealing with those subhumans

>>67093414
It's not meant to be posted if she's keeping it members-only, and we respect that. It only would serve as dramafags and clipniggers ammo.

>>67093418
Sorry that your gf (nor real) cheated you

>>67093522
>How is Niji so goddamn incompetent?
It's incompetence + malice. Worst combination.

>>67093560
you can cry about catalogshitters all you want but it won't change that pomu will always be remembered as luca's cocksleeve

>>67093407
>Kiara
It's almost magical how she can cause drama in Hololive and Nijisanji.

>>67092666
...oh there's more?

>>67093414
Because Pomu isn't the target of /#/ like some in Hololive that get their shit leaked all the time.

>>67092988
It's not anti. The thing is Pomu would of been perfect as a spokesperson but they didn't want to negotiate her current conditions. They would rather keep their talents following between the lines. The critical part is that she was told flat out NO about the offer. inb4 brain dead idiots think Konami approached with an offer and said no. What a shit company.

>sudden Kiara hate
>Cuckposting
Yeah, real catalog time

>>67093407
The members stream is from 7 months ago, it has nothing to do with Kiara 3D live (that was made at the end of the year)

>>67093296
that's a closeted faggot, maybe even a lucuck, just don't reply

>>67092049
>It's MGS related
>3D sololive
>Hololive transfer
well which is it

>>67093928
it supposed to be her birthday live though originally planned for summer

>>67092049
Deserved for being Luca's cocksleeve

>>67092666
anon theres literally nothing in this saying shit shit is about mgs

>>67093123
>Says the same shit in every thread
>Gets called a dumbfuck for it
>"stuck a nerve huh?"
You've been doing this shit for the past week now.
Does it not get boring anon? Doing the same thing every day? What do you get out of this?

>>67093522
>>67093701
niji jp has collabs with street fighter and with mcdonalds so not really. And nijien had a collab with sanrio

>>67094204
Seething pomukek

>>67094159
So whats you rrat, sister?

Everything is Luca and Enna's fault and I won't be convinced otherwise.

>67094256
Ah, so it's a (You) farmer. I should have known better.

>>67094204
>keeps biting obvious bait
>keeps seeing shit posts
I wonder if these things are somehow correlated

>>67094281
idk, what i know is that im not going to say its mgs shit as if its a fact when theres nothing. it could be literally anything and we'll never know

>>67094239
>Sanrio
ah yes that Collab nobody gave a shit about because they gave it to fucking Luxiem with Lazulight as a sidepiece, and nobody in Luxiem even knew what a Sanrio was, plus the Kyo korea drama sniffling it out

>>67094159
The timeline match up, the nepo holo offer is out since Kiara hasn't do any nepo hire yet, and no, Nerissa was just coincidence, Jenma hide Nerissa from Kiara until the last minute, and a possible transfer is even more stupid, companies doesn't do that shit unless the company itself implode (Like Tsunderia or Cyberlive), but the MGS? totally match up, and desu i always though that the whole campaign would fit Pomu better.

>>67094419
That's not how it works here

>>67094373
I have literally ignored it for the past week. I'm asking a genuine question because it's nearly every thread with the same reply every time.

>>67094419
So what is your opinion about being flat out refused no when Pomu valued it as a lifetime offer.

I feel bad if only because she really, really wanted NijiEN to work, and instead of getting a group of good talents. She got stuck tard wrangling the bottom of the barrel essentially. And then got fucked over by the company itself.

>>67093414
Because members of a lot of chuubas love thinking they belong in some le sekret club. They even throw a hissy fit if you share a two sentence post. That's why I leak membership content at any opportunity just to piss those people off.

>>67093023
Imagine wanting to join kurosanji after all the shit. You'll have to be an insanely desperate indie to get there. Niji probably peaked on the quality of the talent willing to work with them.

>>67093414
Pomudachis learned clean comsec from watching all those metal gear livestreams

>>67094824
>I leak membership content at any opportunity just to piss those people off
Yeah, just "those people" and never at the expense of the talents themselves, I'm sure

>>67092049
I wish I didn’t fucking see this, dude. Fuck. Whenever I think my opinion of EN management couldn’t get any lower, I’m proven wrong time and time again.

>>67094824
This dude is a CERTIFIED badass.

>>67094034
>It's MGS related
this feels like it fits the "once in a lifetime" deal
might be confirmation bias simply because vtubing fans overwhelmingly felt pomu was the more passionate mgs fan/better fit than callie
>>3D sololive
maybe, but I have a hard time believing niji never would have done this
>Hololive transfer
pomu would be really retarded to think niji would allow something like this and throw a pity party for herself over it

>>67092691
Because this was about 5 months before Mori's metal gear song came out.

>>67095495
>pomu would be really retarded to think niji would allow something like this and throw a pity party for herself over it
It's definitely not that anyway

>>67094447
why do they say Nerissa is a Kiara no hire? Wasn't Nerissa just a fan of Kiara, they didn't have any connection besides that right?

to be fair, you're only getting one side of the story from that clip. it's easy for Pomu to shittalk management during member streams where it's relatively safe and people don't gossip about it immediately after

>>67095711
It's a rrat that says Kiara knew Nerissa beforehand because of Jenma being in secrecy of the new advent members.
Wich is stupid, because Kiara only knew that she was Nerissa's oshi after the debut

>>67092049
What the fuck? This was in May and nijiniggers were shitting on doomposters at that time

>>67095730
I WIL NEVER BELIEVE IN NIJISANJI SHITTY MANAGEMENT
GO FUCK YOURSELF MILLIE

I CAN'T BELIEVE POMU SAID THIS
https://youtu.be/XvRBMVh25Yc?t=2066

>>67092502
Well if there was someone who could hype up that bag of trash collection they just threw out there, it was probably Pomu, They should have gave the collection to [picrel] and M2 to actually put together though.

>>67096039
Yeah it felt shit not to be taken seriously and treated as a basic troll but to be fair good comsec is praise worthy.

>>67096584
You posted a literal who and JP would not be excited about this guy, unless he is in a few JP things. I don't know who this guy is.

>>67096702
Do your reissue/archival reps anon.

>>67095730
I have no idea how there are bootlickers still willing to defend this shit, god damn. I used to love NijiEN, was a fan since the beginning and wanted to even fucking join, but the incompetence from management soiled that. How can you look at what the brand has become thanks to dogshit management and think it’s okay?
It’s no longer “one side of the story” when there’s multiple people who bitch about facing similar issues, by the way. Just look at how Selen gets treated.

>>67095730
The managers still live monitor the streams she does in membership you brainless ape

>>67092049
What the fuck is that bgm in her member stream? For the life of me I can't remember what it is.

>>67095947
who is jenma? I've been gone for a bit

Looks like I have ASMRs to listen to

>>67098559

Jenma is Kiara's manager

>>67094034
>MGS
Plausible and the reaction would fit
>3D live
Not really once in a lifetime
>Hololive
Retarded. Niji management can't stop her from quitting, the timing is wrong, and Cover have no reason to poach people when probably every half-decent free agent on the planet has applied to them.

>>67095730
How much are they paying you?

>>67094034
Had to have been MGS. She became obsessed with it and got a big exposure boost from it. Being attached to the remake of MGS 3 would be a huge deal to her marketing wise.

>>67092049
Nijisanji just hates money, or they just dislike their female talents

>>67093890
>would of
burgers dont suffer from ESL but from two digit IQs

Arguing over it being MGS or not sorta misses the big point that whatever it was, it was something Pomu really wanted to do and considered a unique opportunity and management didn't even attempt to work something out.

>>67101491
It doesn't diminish the impact of what happens. All complaints falls back onto the point management said No and Pomu decided the company is hopeless when the opportunity fell into their lap.

>>67101640
Pomu deserved better because she's better than every single one of the nijiguys.

Seems like a lot of this was punishment for collabing with Hololive. She shouldn't have let Kiara leech off her as much.

Kiaraschizo pls

>>67092992
Rad

>>67101693
honestly, sonny and a few of the others have struck me as nice and funny people
I think the bigger issue with niji has been how they just dump out like 10-20 characters a year and actually expect people to care that aren't at like full-time job levels of investment cause I even watch streams albeit on the lower end and still barely have a good hold on most of them.
I will say though that a lot of them aren't great at having much of a character and just seem like normal somewhat funny dudes you'd find on any mmo. I also don't get why most male vtubers are like just normal dudes instead of magic anthro animals and shit.

>>67092666
>she could have sang sneaking neaking
Well i’m sure she’d come up with something better then that slop
>inb4 muh it’s a joke song
Good song writers can make a song that is both good and funny, the fact that it is a joke does not make the song any less shitty

>>67102585
Sonny is a great entertainer, I watched his Rain World streams.

>>67102585
>sonny
Lmao, do your reps, he is easily one of the most deplorable people on the internet, unironically he is human scum

>>67102749
The song was written by a third party for Mori so it probably would've been the same song

>>67095730
>you're only getting one side of the story from that clip
There is a huge power imbalance between management and corporate vtubers. They don't own their model, channel, or work accounts. They can be put on suspension and management can force them to lie. Nijisanji and Hololive can fire talents for NDA reasons. The talents speech is restricted by a strict contract while management can say anything they want. An occasional complaint doesn't change how Pomu could see her opportunities slipping past because management was indifferent.

>>67104084
>There is a huge power imbalance between management and corporate vtubers.
Completely taking Vtubing and corpos out of the equation. That's how any job works. Sorry, you're not the equal of your boss. Hierarchies inherently exist in employment for good reason.

>>67102838
TF2 has been dead for years, move on with your life

>>67104084
>there's a huge power imbalance between management and the lower ranking employees
Yes, that's how jobs work. Not defending Nijisanji though. They're a black company run by malicious retards.

>>67104287
>That's how any job works.
My company would be up shits creek w/o a paddle for at least a year if I left right now, or anytime in the last 4 years.
I literally pointed this out in a professional manner when I told my boss(es) I wanted a promotion and raise. And then I got it exactly that, despite my immediate boss having to push through a bunch of corporate red tape to get it done while the parent company was trying to be stingy.

>>67094824
Every membership stream/content ever is on bilibili - i refuse to pay for anything the internet can provide me for free.

>>67105395
So you still answer to someone who gets to make decisions that dictate your workflow. Understood.

>>67093414
Wasn't this leaked tho? I remember Nijisisters running defense on this exact topic it was just a subtitled png instead of a direct link because it was a member stream

It’s not the fucking MGS thing holy shit. Mori has a fucking record company contract and connections, that’s the only way she gets those opportunities, same with the one piece song.You do not get shit like that given to you out of the blue just because you are a fan of something.

>>67105739
>that dictate your workflow.
Customer requirements dictate the majority of my workflow.
>you still answer to someone who gets to make decisions
If that's how you feel, I pity you. My boss(es) priority is assisting my work and skill development.

>>67106200
>You do not get shit like that given to you out of the blue just because you are a fan of something.
Yes and that's why it was a "once in a lifetime oportunity"

>>67106674
smart friend!

>>67093756
>Corporations whose sole purpose for exist is to support their talents fail at doing anything other than harass/spy on them and refuse to do simple tasks months in advance while the girls end up paying from their own pocket and sweat to get anything done.

Chicken is right to be seething for years at management's ineptitude.

>>67100729
The Yacht feeds off the blood of their members and the tears of their fans.

>>67103162
If I recall, she said the only thing she did was include MGS reference

>>67103162
they wouldn't have written the same song because Pomu won't be doing rapping retards.
Will it be equally cringe? Maybe. Will it be the exact same song? no.

I came her to lmao.
lol
All Out War, baby XD

how we doing?

teletubby sun lol

See you space Pomu...

See you when we see you pomu.

I'm actually crying bros wtf. I don't even watch her that much. I lost my career around the time she debuted and I start a new one this monday. this is some bitch ass psychology affecting me.

it's over...

She never finished that Shantae game...

>>67094239
>And nijien had a collab with sanrio
So? Retard NijiJP had multiple of Sanrio collabs already

>>67108937
Clearly it wasn't Mori who initially wrote it, she got the general idea and had to expand from it. I remember her saying that when she first got the song's sketch and everything she was like "Will this... work...?" like even she felt weird with that reff.
So chances are we might've ended up with more or less equally cringeworthy song anyway if it was given to Pomu.

what do we do now?

>>67111999
Get big boss emblems in the mgs you haven't gotten them in yet.

>>67111999
Nice dub trips, and idk find another oshi or wait for pomu to reincarnate

considering nijiEN's falling revenue i think golden yacht just pulled their resources so they can't get any projects approved at all anymore. that's kind of what it seems like. nijiEN is a sinking ship and the HQ is not willing to send any engineers out to repair it because they don't see any value in it. sad as fuck. wish the best for pomu and for selen

>>67111999
I now look for and follow her RM account.

>>67111470
The difference is having that opportunity could have made Pomu stay. Even if it was just as cringe, it would have been shit on way less because Pomu loves MGS; most people would consider that SOVL

>>67111999
wait for the selen tweet

>>67113213
it's not coming today

>>67113376
who said anything about today? its a matter of when. for now we wait

>>67092049
POOmu btfo

>>67111999
Play the Metal Gear Series
Watch vods you missed out on (if any)
Wait for NijiEN's twitter account to make an announcement regarding Selen.
Wait for Pomu to show up somewhere else.

>>67092049
Is this her bitching about not getting the Metal Gear thing?

>>67102838
He was a TF2 player that faked his death because he didn't want to announce that he was quitting right?

>>67113169
RM?

>>67111999
I bought a retro emulator and i want to play through all the retro games she played again.

>>67116928
hownew.ru

>>67116928
Red Mage. She's playing FFXIV now

>>67092049
You missed the last thing she said
>but it is what it is, I suppose
>maybe I would have hated it
Makes me think it would have been a change of environment in some way.

>>67102585
>sonny
Well, what he did was definitely funny. Just by virtue of being an absolutely batshit insane thing to do.