/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

pekora, fubuki, or gura

an argument could be made for sora, too

but if fauna left id cry like a bitch

YAGOO

>>67021248
I think Miko or Pekora
Personally, the day Watame retires will be a dreadful day...

>>67021248
>Cover
Sora, no question. If the Daisenpai retired for anything other than wanting to quite streaming altogether, the knock-on effect would be enormous
Maybe Fubuki? The thing about Hololive is that it has enough big, medium and small Vtubers that they aren't relying entirely on one or two, so the more impactful retirements are the ones which would affect the members or the company's image the most. Pekora generates more money, but she's a bit awkward and not the biggest collaber, so it wouldn't be as big as the other two I mentioned

>>67021248
Anyone popular would dealt a blow. Rushia and Coco already did that.
They really need to find some replacements with so many burnouts and not go side track with Homostars and NotHololive. Laplus and gen 6 were supposed to do that, but of course, she was young and dumb and fucked it up.

Towa

>>67021248
Gura, which is why they are shoveling money at here to prevent her from quitting and reporting the rape to the police.
Mel was terminated for leaking the rapes.

>>67021248
Probably Marine since it would also cause Peko to lose it

Miko or Pekora.

>>67021998
Sora has been around for so long that retirement feels almost natural at this point. Most of the streamers that started at that time are already gone.

>>67021435
But Gura...

>>67021814
Not at all he's responsible for homodick, Jap man would be 100x better

>>67021435
>>67022280
You guys really think too highly of gura. Sure, it will shock western fans at first but holojp is the important branch and is where the money is at. Cover will only take a blow when one of the bigger jp girls graduate

no one really, we saw how Rushia leaving made no impact, same with Coco, hololive is too big so even if Pekora leaves her fanbase would just move to another girl

Kiara, probably: she tends to be the only one who actually pushes the company to do more than its comfortable with, and losing that would mean Hololive would probably just see its non-Japanese part rot; that, in turn, would probably mean even the Japanese part would start hurting as well, once the sound of "Hololive is dead" started sounding convincing.

>>67023600
lmao

>>67023600
funny joke EOP man, HoloEn thriving or dying has no effect on HoloJP, they are irrelevant to them

>>67023600
EN is already rotting.

>bothering to say any EN member
I forget EN even exists until I see someone mention them here

>>67021248
If those 3 graduate its over for cover

>>67021248
Marine for being the most popular and being Japan's favourite virtual celeb.
Fubuki for her famous quote which would make cover crumble down one after another.

Seeing Sora mentioned just makes me chuckle. Everyone pretends she's important but in reality no one would care beyond the obligatory hypocritical shock that THE daisenpai left - and the everyone continues business as usual. No lasting effect really.

>>67022814
Will he be promoted to Yagoo's protege?

>>67023803
Kiara keeps the rot at bay.

Probably Ame because she's so super important behind the scenes.

>>67021435
bro, gura left like 2 years ago

>>67021248
A tie between Pekora and Marine. Funny how Gura leaving would barely make a dent on the company at this point.

>>67021248
Pekora is known for leeching from her genmates so no she is easily forgettable
Marine barely stream people already used to her being gone.
So by elimination miko is the most important holomember added the fact the miko is the reason why hololive got viral in the first place

>>67023427
>her fanbase would just move to another girl
You don't know how Nousagis' brain works, faggot.

>>67021248
Miko, Pekora and Fubuki. Marine would hurt too and even Gura arguably. But personally the one that would hurt me the most is Korone.

>>67025421
Quiet pagpag, go back to your subhuman thread.

>>67021248
Marine. She’s the Charles Barkley of Hololive.

>>67021248
financially-Pekora,Marine,Gura
soul crushing-Fubuki,Korone,Pekora,Mio

really depends on how they go out, if fubuki went out then said damning things about cover on her RM acc or something that would probably do alot of damage,

>>67021248
i really hope pekora is the next one to get terminated

bitch with the fakest voice and fakest intention to collab deserve it

>>67021248
none of them if they are on good terms
but probably Fubuki if she spoke out against Cover.

The largest financial blows already happened with Rushia and Coco.

>>67021248
Sora

>>67024244
Sora is the fucking founder of Hololive.
YAGOO is just the businessman, Sora is the soul

>>67024627
Its more like she just sprays some air freshener around so you can’t smell the rot anymore, at least shes trying though.

Sora or Suisei no contest. Sora because she's literally the heart and soul of Hololive, and Suisei because she's literally the company's #1 money maker and would set hololive back 3 whole years in their pursuit of domestic mainstream recognition.

>>67021248
Miko

>>67021248
Pekora, Marine, Suisei, and Fubuki have the most exposure, losing them would make national headlines. Sora would too but mostly due to being OG
OkaKoro are not only the original てえてえ duo, but they + Subaru also set a standard in terms of delivering and interesting stream. Losing them + Pekora would change the general feel of hololive quite a bit
Subaru and Mio are emotional pillars for the girls, Mio for her mom vibes and Subaru for being infectiously genki. Losing them would cause a slow internal breakdown
Koyori and Fuwamoco are the shining newcomers out of pure effort, and Nepolabo have been slowly growing as a Gen. Losing them in addition to the above would lose a lot of momentum for future talents
In the end though hololive is now too big to collapse completely, but their growth would slow down considerably if they don't find a new breadwinner generation like 3rd Gen was before the girls above retire

>>67033122
Almot a perfect post but you forgot Miko as one of the most important members that Cover losing would be fucking huge and make headlines.

>>67021248
Financially? Marine, Peko, or Suisei.
But Fubuki graduating would be the hardest blow to Cover's reputation in a lot of fans' eyes, especially if it was on bad terms. She's the canary in the mine when it comes to how Cover treats their talents, I don't think she would ever leave unless something was Wrong at the company.

Ollie. All the free cock sucking would be gone thus destroying the staff at cover

>>67024244
>Business will continue as usual
If you think this isn't true for everyone then you're simply a moron, at this point no one or two people leaving will stop the business going as usual no matter who and the real funny part is you that some people here including you unironically think that Fubuki's words that she said people can trust the company as long as she is still there is more than just words, only people in /here/, Redditor or clipfag think like it's some kind of gospel, on the contrary anyone leaving with a real scandal not just some rrats could bring the company down due to reputation damage

>>67034473
She's closer to SMOK in that her bouncing around in a bunch of a collab groups helps the other girls emotionally and socially, while also setting the standard on how collabs should generally go. Fans will feel her loss, nationally a bit dubious since I don't remember her having a mainstream breakout

if Suisei graduates I'll graduate myself

>>67021248
Marine, Suisei, Aqua, Fubuki, Pekora
In that order.

>>67021248
Sankisei and miComet
Cover always use them as leverage for advertisers. This is why terminating Rushia was a really big ball move from them, they really don't mind setting themselves on fire if you break company rules.

>>67021248
Fubuker. They already axed their top SC earners two times, but eventually someone else takes the spot. The only way to make cover fall is destroying fan's trust in the company

I'm not able to put into words the speed at which I would drop this entire medium and never look back the day Suisei retires/graduates. I hate even thinking about her one day no longer being around.

>>67021248
Rushia and Coco left and they were just fine. You would have to graduate an entire JP gen to see real damage, and even then gen 3 specifically is the only one I see having any real impact.
Maybe Micomet can be thrown in there as well.

>>67042793
Rushia was always a bit siloed. Coco had a bigger impact, but even she was always a bit of an outsider. There are enough top talents to replace any single one of them leaving though.

I wish Queen leech would fuck off. She can't do anything without her whore friend anymore anyway.

>>67021248
A single one? None.
Maybe if two or more between Marine, Pekora, Aqua, Miko and Suisei leave at the same time.

>>67023600
lmfao

>>67021942
This will be fucked up.

>>67030271
>Sora because she's literally the heart and soul of Hololive
It'd be sad, but Sora graduating wouldn't really change anything major other than Suisei and Miko sharing the center spot of all promotional material after she's gone.

>>67023600
Almost perfect bait, almost

>>67021248
Miko, Marine, Pekora are easy pics.
Also Sora, Fubuki, Suisei.
Stealth pick: Mr. Koro.

>>67042520
Don't worry something extremely bad would have to happen for Suisei to graduate and even then I think she would do her best not to have to take that option.
The only way I can see Suisei retiring is if she literally died unexpectedly.

I don't think i could recover if Sora left for any reason.

>>67023235
japanese and other asian sponors fall over themselves to get a deal featuring her. people like to scream and piss themselves that she isnt a face of the company, and Cover does their best to make it equal, but the business partners do not see it that way.

>>67023803
fuwamoco is about to lap Iroha and same with Kotori in the next 4 months.

>>67046676
>>67023803
Imagine EN without advent

>>67021248
To be honest cover has so much money and hololive is so popular that a single talent leaving, even the most popular, wouldn't do much damage overall.
Only if more than 1 left.

none i dont really care about hololive. i miss bea

>>67021942
pls no

>>67021435
at this point, if Gura retires (hopefully she's coming back chumbud I'm not hating on your oshi) it wouldn't be that impactful anymore

in my opinion, besides the ones you mentioned, I think Fubuki and Suisei are important, for different reasons

>>67021248
Honest answer, no one, because there will always be an influx of newfags who won't care about previous talents if they come into the community when a new generation debuts, just see how many current new fans who have no idea who Coco is and a few others don't even know who Rushia is.
Cover would have to do something too terrible for their reputation to take a big hit, something like the Holos being revealed to be involved in a sex scandal with management with verifiable proof (see the Johnny & Associates scandal) but since I don't see Cover doing something that stupid (at least not that careless) nothing will happen to them if they graduate or terminate any talent no matter how big they are.

>>67021248
Marine for sure
She's a unique japanese cultural establishment and the backlash and the hate would be unprecentendated

>>67021248
I think they could survive Marine leaving
I don't know if they would survive Pekora leaving

Pekora and Marine, they're critical for sponsorships and collabs with games/merch.

Losing Sora, gamers or miko/suisex would be morally crushing for the company, especially if they had their contract torn with no graduation stream.

>>67021248
Peko draws the most dimes and that's what the investors care about.

Miko. Since most of the bat shit insane fans are 35p they would probably kill themselves if Miko graduated/terminated. But before that they would probably also koyoani the Cover building and take out any talent they could get their hands on. No with Miko gone there is nothing containing them. I could see Yagoo surviving one, maybe two days before they snag him.

>>67021248
It depends on the circumstances, but in general Fubuki probably. If it was a termination though, Sora getting terminated would destroy the company. I think if she just retired it wouldn't be that big a drama because she's been doing it for so long that it would just be like, yeah, that's fair, she's ready to move on.
Otherwise, any member quitting to go join another company without extenuating circumstances would be a pretty big deal, since hololive is supposed to be the best agency to work for and if that was proven not to be the case it would be big. Coco doesn't count because that was a unique situation.

>>67023600
Not hating on kiara or kfp in any manner but lmao her leaving would not budge hololive at all

>>67021248
unironically Gura on the western front. Pekora, Marine or Miko on the JP side. Sora would devastate talent morale but I don't think her graduation would hit cover financially that much.
Basically any talent that the sponsors love.

>>67021435
>Gura
least delusional chumbud

>>67050178
Chumbuds need to be humbled
Gura still is the most important EN vtuber, to an extent, but at this point, HoloEN could survive without her, as it has for more than a year, it'd be tough but right now Advent is the face of HoloEN and there's no fucking way Fuwamoco or Biboo would see their careers too affected, they'd remain immensely popular
I love Gura by the way and I hope she comes back but you guys live in a strange delusional world

>>67021435
FPBP

Sora Fubs and Gura all represent Hololive in some way to the public and it would be like cutting out part of Hololives identity if they werent there. Pekora and Marine are also top tier performers that would impact the company hard but wouldnt have the symbolic apperance of losing a one of those three

>>67021248
I think it's tough to say and it's probably a close race, but I'd go with Fubuki. People underestimate how much of a pillar she is for not just the fanbase, but for many of the talents.

>>67050391
I'm not a chumbud. I don't have an oshi but if I did, it'd probably be Fauna.
I have no doubt that the talents wouldn't be affected but we're talking about who would deal the largest blow to cover. Cover loves to shill Gura and her "most subscribed vtuber" title in their reports and I do believe that this is what most if not all their sponsors see before deciding on whether or not they want to go through with the deal.
Last year alone, Gura was chosen to be their ambassador for that town thing and the train station thing as well as being the only EN member to do the honeyworks collab. All that and she was probably the EN tuber who streamed the most. I might be wrong but I say all this objectively from a non-fan perspective.

>>67051006
streamed the least. my bad.

>>67021248
Pekora, simply because after Coco and Rushia left she took the top spot for JP
the one that would make me the most sad is Subaru leaving

>>67021248
Miko, she's the heart and soul of hololive

>>67021248
Suisei and Miko because they're the two biggest money makers in hololive now and that would deal a lot of damage to Cover.

>>67021248
For EN
Financially, Mori
Motivationally, Fauna or FuwaMoco
For ID
Financially, Moona
Motivationally, Risu or Iofi
For JP
its the same 3 for both - Marine, Pekora, Fubuki

If my oshi retires I give up on the medium

>>67021248
If your oshi can't sell at least 5k of her album >>67044573 then she's worthless

I survived rushia cos she reincarnated. If she had simply an heroed or something, i dunno if i could carry on.

>>67021248
It's not a matter of who, but how. Even RBC can deal fatal damage to Cover's reputation if she graduates in a bad note with Cover being at fault.

>>67021248
yagoo will retire in a few years.

>>67021248
Miko
Hololive worldwide popularity started with her
It will also end with her

Fuwawa.
Not Fuwamoco, just Fuwawa leaving.

Pekora leaving would be the most massive blow to fans, and Miko leaving would be the most massive blow to Hololive's internal morale. Either one leaving would probably crash their stock.

the sovl of hololive

>>67041034
Bro, it's 2024, aqua went full ayame and checked out 3 years ago...

>>67053864
She is third in most hours streamed on that list, but you do you, I guess.

>>67033122
Fuwa, Moco, and Koyori wouldn't be such crucial losses, don't kid yourself. "hard worker" isn't exactly a rare trait.

>>67023600
they have da boiz

>>67023600
Damn even chicken propagate the whole ME ME ME mentality

>>67021248
1. Open this website https://hololivepro.com/en/
2. Let the background image play for a bit until it loops to the first image you saw
Every single talents who are in there will deal a great damage if they somehow decided to or have to leave Hololive.
But obviously, none would do greater damage than Sora herself if she's somehow done with VTubing or have to leave Hololive.

>>67042450
>The only way to make cover fall is destroying fan's trust in the company
You'd think it'd be a lot easier. 2 graduations and 2 terminations in and there doesn't seem to be much damage. Remember, Cover's not exactly the most competent

>>67055932
You say that as if 2 graduations and 2 terminations is a lot.

>>67046759
some of us lived it. GRIM
>never again

>>67021435
>Gura
Lmao she already left

>>67055962
Something tells me you don't watch Holo

>>67055932
What kind of damage did you expect from those 4 leaving? Two left in the most amicable terms possible, one was considered (and still is) a deranged individual incapable of logical thinking, and one was a literal nobody who streamed twice.
The way Cover handled them more than shows how competent they are.

>>67021248
Pekora for sure she has the biggest fanbase and she brings the most money.
Miko, Marine and Suisei would also be an unrecoverable blow for the same reasons.
Gura leaving would only be bad short term she's already practically retired.

>>67021248
ollie

>>67021248
Marine, Pekora, Aqua, Miko, Suisei.
Sora and Fubuki too but only if terminated.

>>67055661
When the senpais are gone they will struggle to find their tempo internally with no one there to set standards, and Koyori not only delivers streams at a constant rate but is pro-active in socializing with every member, leaving her to be in the perfect position to be the next tard wrangler. Fuwamoco is still too new to predict how far their influence will, but they have undoubtedly been the biggest bridge between the EN and JP viewer sphere since maybe Gura (superficial), Mori (limited scope), and Kiara (opened up EN/JP interaction opportunities)

.

People ITT don't realise that Gura left a long time ago. There's no fucking way they'd ever officially "graduate" her and create that level of feelbads, plus they can parade her corpse around for free money this way. When they dumpstered Coco they realised how quickly the money valve shut off so why do it again? Just call her up every now and then for a random piece of content like being in this year's medley to keep her in the mind of her simps.

The real answer is probably one of the three OP said. They're basically the face of Hololive at this point.

>>67052364
Grim. Hopefully he properly grooms a new CEO that won't turn Hololive into a black company.

>>67021942
>Official notice of contract termination with Tsunomaki Watame
>She was found drunk in the office when staff entered in the morning of 27/1/2024, and when approached became belligerent and naked
>Effective immediately

>>67021248
A couple of years ago it would have been devastating losing Pekora. But they have Koyo now, it wouldn’t hit as hard. There is no one grad to hit them that hard really

>>67022110
It's crazy to me that Rushia still holds the record for most supas

>>67059368
Considering she baited high donors with private personal messages it’s not surprising at all

>>67059450
>UwU if you give me a 10% cut I'll launder your money for you senpai owo

>>67021435
I always thought that the day Sora retires she would slid right into a high management position. Her, Yagoo and A-chan are the core of Cover

>>67056184
you're retarded.
Mel is terminated

>>67040468
Anon, she gets equal or sometimes better numbers than Pekora she just doesn't stream as much. She is a Tokyo tourism ambassador too. She is a part of Micomet, Shiraken, gets tons of sponsorships and events.
Even in the west tons of people got into vtubing because of her clips.
She is easily top 5 most important holos for cover.

>>67059558
I could see them offer girls like Marine a job in management if they decide to retire. Something like an advisor role.

>>67059201
lol
they were willing to shaft her for popular demand. Maybe IPO won't allow them that anymore, but the fact Cover needs to be incentivized against it at all paints a bad picture

>>67021248
yagoo. his retirement would alert all the hounds who would want to take over his company for their personal gains. he's very hard to replace because there's no CEO as charismatic as him and they don't share his "talent first" vision so whoever the successor would be would turn Hololive into another nijisanji to maximize profits. this would cause the talents to just quit altogether when they feel they're not being taken care of anymore

>>67059618
Mel has been terminated due to her own mistake, which she admitted. Breaking NDA could easily lead to a lawsuit, but her termination was as amicable as possible and her reputation suffered no more damage than the absolute minimum. Also you have never watched a single Mel stream, nobody will notice her loss.

>>67021248
Pekora will graduate and became the next CEO of cover I beleb

>>67021248
none, every talent is expendable

>>67059450
One of those receivers was the winner of a Twitter campaign, the other got disowned after starting fights with other fans

>>67059657
Fair, I'm still dubious but I definitely forgot about the ambassador thing

>>67021248
A-chan

>>67051006
>>67051047
You're right, almost every time Hololive does some big promotional thing they like to include Gura, because as a character she pretty much turned into one of Hololive's mascots, that's also why her merch still sells so well despite her having practically no streaming activity (it's crazy that when they do these pop-up store events not just in Japan but in Asia in general and despite all the inactivity if there is Gura merch it's always one of the first to be sold out).
It's wild to me that some anons here are so caught up in the "lol no streams gura" meme that they can't put 1 and 1 when yes, Gura doesn't stream and then still shows up as a promotional character for fucking Japanese tourism(!) among other things constantly. It's almost like she is a huge asset for the company in some other way than streaming so much that they stopped caring as long as she is occasionally available for these things.

Depends on the circumstances. Cover would survive any financial hit from anyone leaving. But if there would be a narrative of Sora or FBK leaving due to disagreements or that the company they started at is no longer the same and too corporate and soulless, that could impact everyone.

>>67060890
Sure, but you're still overplaying her importance. If they could axe their top earner and recover they can easily survive without gura. People wouldn't even go
>Nooo I'll miss all her
Because nobody watches her(they can't) so their wouldn't be some kind of crazy uproar over it.

>>67025817
I fuck with Sir Chuck dude is based as he'll. Is why I probably I also like marine

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>>67025817
Can we get Marine to do a chaos dunk

>>67059252
"Officer, listen to me! She did nothing wrong!"

>>67025817
what a perfect comparison

>>67059880
That would actually be kinda based

>>67059252
This really sounds like she did borderline nothing wrong.

>>67023600
Kiara is a fine girl and a good talent of EN, but the only fights she picks are the ones that affect her. As a result of where she comes from and how bad holoEN was on its first couple of years.
She's loves being the center, being MC, being on the spotlight. But I've never seen her pick up on the full responsibilities of a leader.
I haven't seen a EN member talk of another EN member like the JPs talk about how supportive Marine, Fubuki and the rest of the hags are for them.

Sora, Fubuki, and Miko, maybe Korone too. These are the most irreplaceable members.

Anyone can graduate in holoEn and nobody gives a shit. It won't affect the original holo which is JP.

>>67056184
she only streamed twice because they suspended her.

>>67061281
#1 in superchats doesn't mean she was the top earner, dumbass, that's not where they get most of their money from.

>>67022218
This. If Towa graduates Hololive is done for (for me)

In EN, Gura, starting a new age

>>67022481
He specified if it was for any reason other than quitting streaming. If they quit to actually quit streaming, plenty of Holos wouldn't cause a fuss at all. Although it would be weird since they already don't stream.

>>67023600
I thought you were going to be serious since she would use her roommate to try and burn the company to the ground, although she already tries plenty from the inside.

>>67021248
Retirement is completely different from termination. And circumstances of how someone leaves matters a lot. Pekora would be nowhere near the top of the list on hurting the most from leaving if the reason she left was something like she died. But if it was because she was fired, antis would probably destroy the company by literally burning it to the ground KyoAni-style.

Now that Mel is gone what Hololive vtuber graduation would have the least impact tho? I'm thinking Laplus.

>>67021248

>>67021998
Can we stop pretending to give a shit about Sora? The company thrives in spite of her not because of her. She’s generic as fuck.

>>67075169
The company does thrive because of her, but her biggest accomplishment is being at the right place in the right time. Otherwise she isn't particularly talented or interesting, and not a good entertainer. Sora would literally have zero chance to get into Hololive if she applied nowadays.

>>67072726
Roboco, Laplus, Ayame

>>67056333
Pekora still might be the most popular jp in the west but Marine took the 1st spot in overall popularity since long ago.

>>67075169
Not a single person thinks the company needs Sora, but her leaving would mean she doesn't need the company which would say negative things about them. That was the obvious point being made.

>>67076962
>Pekora still might be the most popular jp in the west
If by the west you mean SEA, sure.

>>67072726
>>67075890
Lui would have less of an impact than Laplus.

>>67078015
Honestly every Holox other than Koyori can go and it doesn't have that big of a impact

>>67078735
Koyori could go, too.

Losing any of Pekora, Marine, Suisei or Miko would be devastating but Cover would survive.
I'm kinda curious how Pekora would react to Miko's graduation and vice-versa

>>67078821
cover won't be collapsing but definetely a big impact
she's the top in superchat and top 5 in the annual views. one of the important earner for the company for sure

>>67078956
same as when any other member that's not close to them graduate
Pekora: *completely ignores
Miko: says something like "it's sad but let's keep working hard!" and lets it go immediately

>>67079600
Rushia didn't make any impact, and she was the sixth most viewed holo at the time, Koyori is a nobody in comparison.

>>67021248
While losing some big holo like Marine, Pekora, Aqua, Miko, would suck, the truth is no single amicable graduation would make an impact.
What matters is not the who, but the how.

>>67021248
Miko or Marine, desu.
Pekora is very sucessful as well, but she isn't as beloved as Miko and Marine are.

>>67075169
Sora is a pin, who keeps all the Hololive members together. She's the senpai of all senpai among them.

If Sora leaves, who takes over that role? Suisei? Azki?

Sankisei, Korone, Fubuki, Suisei, and Mori.

Gura just feels like a figurehead at this point but people will cry. its a tough pill to swallow if she or Mori leave.

>>67023600
The sooner Kiara leaves, the better EN will be

>>67023600
Kiara is a damn hololive fan and i think anyone with a brain will just feel lost. I get she can be hated but that girl does a ton of work.

>>67081509
Obviously Fubuki, though Roboco might also have an important role behind the scenes.
Also, AZKi??? There's like a dozen of holos who debuted before her.

>>67081750
Well debut timing is one thing. How about the ability or presence?

>>67081808
Do you even watch AZKi? She has no leading ability whatsoever, as a matter of fact I'm pretty sure she never organized anything, even solo autists like Aqua and Pekora are better than her on that front.

>>67021248
Hololive survived Coco leaving, who was at the time much more important to the company than those 3 you just mentioned, and not that much changed, so it wouldn't really matter if a single one of them retired. You would need multiple of the most popular chuubas graduating at the same time to reach a similar effect to Coco's graduation, and, like I said, it didn't really change that much, so unless an entire gen graduates at once, Hololive is fine until the entire industry dies

>>67081608
>EN would be better off without the only woman who ever tries to glue it together
roru. Kiara is staying in EN and there's nothing you can do but seethe about it, sister.

marine, fubuki and mori calliope

>>67081972
>Coco, who was at the time much more important to the company than those 3 you just mentioned
LMAO

>>67081509
>sUiSEi???
as if she isn't a better streamer/entertainer than Sora in every way. She is superior mascot at this point, but muh daisenpai seniority trumps all obviously. Sora's fine where she is though, I don't hate the fact she's a boring streamer. Nothing wrong with being boring when you have so many more interesting people at your beck and call (and also don't force them to collab to try and give yourself more attention on the side).

Actually I think I like Sora even more now. Not to mention, as much as idolshit sucks as a business and music genre, Sora's idol moments in streams are some of the most pure expressions of why that has a big appeal to begin with. If she ever leaves, then I imagine the "playing whore" side of some members' character will come out more, and feel less like a character.

>>67082094
>AT THE TIME
why is reading hard for you fucks?

>>67082145
I read that perfectly fine, retard.

>>67081509
Not only does this confirm you have never watched Sora, you don't even watch Hololive. Azki? Suisei? Are you fucking retarded? Just looking at a list of Gen 0 members and thinking they share seniority. Fubuki is the obvious answer from anyone who cares. The only reason it wouldn't be Fubuki is it would be a demotion for her so they'd have to pay her more or she'd have to want to be the face of Hololive as a retirement deal.

>>67078015
Lui might not be as memeable as Laplus but considering both are pretty irrelevant, Lui at least has core friendships in the company and is the adult of her gen. So by default her loss would be more impactful. Laplus was suspended for like a year and nobody noticed she ever came back.

>>67078735
Retard

>>67082141
>>67082319
Case in point. No one can replace Sora.

>>67082145
Coco already had fell off when she graduated
She was the most important holo during the time of asacoco

>>67021248
It's Marine, she's the only one in the company who's worked out how to do a whole bunch of shit that none of the others have any idea how to do. The amount of experience and institutional knowledge that she has exclusively personally right now is kinda absurd.

She also has by far the best metrics across almost everything you might want to measure.

Suisei would be next after Marine for similar reasons.

>>67082730
yeah she "fell off" like everyone who coasts on their success, nothing to do with the army of rabid chinks after her who nearly had her booted out, made her stream chats unusable for half of the 1.5 years she streamed, and had managers forbid her from collabing with their massively successful first run at an overseas gen which she helped in founding until she was already making her way out the door

>>67021248
What if Sora retires to become a manager?

>>67082457
eh, by that measure, Laplus is also on good terms with most members, and she's used in promotional/variety 3D stuff on the main channel more.

Unironically miko

>>67021248
The rabbit despite being arguably the most popular i would say it's probably one of the most generic ones in what she does and how she acts and more easily forgotten of the big ones.

>>67059880
She is too retarded to manage any company

>>67069474
Mori actually comes up quite often as someone who is very supportive and always willing to lend a helping hand to the other girls. Mumei, Fuwamoco and very recently Baelz have all praised her for that.
But I dont think she has the sort of motherly aura Mio and Marine have in JP.

>>67021435
>gura
hahAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
nobody would give a shit

>>67021248
Pekora obviously, she is just so known even among the competition that it would impact outside hololive

>>67021248
as in a regular graduation? i think you listed them, peko, miko, marine
a termination? probably sora, that shit would be shocking and probably fuck up morale in the company for a while on the JP side.

>>67021248
Pekora or marine, one of the two = it's completely and utterly over for holo domination

>>67086362
>Marine
>motherly aura
She ain't mother anon. She just says whatever they sympathize cuz the girls that rely on Marine are depressed as fuck and Marine is depressed herself too. They all end up being on a break like Aqua/Shion/Lamy/Kanata
Mio is the legit emotional pillar, those who rely on her like Fubuki, Miko or Subaru, are all active and emotionally stable
(Ayame is exception but not Mio's fault, she's just lazy on a different level)

>>67086362
>Marine
>motherly aura
She ain't a mother anon. She just says whatever they sympathize cuz the girls that rely on Marine are depressed as fuck and Marine is depressed herself too.
They all end up being on a break like Aqua/Shion/Lamy/Kanata did
Mio is the legit emotional pillar, those who rely on her like Fubuki, Miko or Subaru, are all active and emotionally stable
(Ayame is exception but not Mio's fault, she's just lazy on a different level)

>>67021435
>>Gura

LOL

She's already AWOL and company didn't notice her tantrum. TLDR Pekora and Marine Korone are anchors

>>67090035
Yeah but she still is included in a huge number of promotional events and her merch sells out fast guaranteed. The fact that all this happens despite the fact that she never streams shows how important she’s become. Gura’s brand is a pillar of hololive and anyone who doesn’t recognize that is kidding themselves.

>Korone
Washed up has been, mediocre ccv, mediocre views, bad merch sales, she hasn't been relevant since 1972.

>>67092708
I would remove the apocalypse tier altogether, but other than that it's a pretty solid list.

>>67092708
I would swap mumei & fauna for matsuri & laplus instead

>>67075452
Hololive priorities those who have real talent, if anything those who only known as streamer won't be accepted if they applied today beside the fact that applying nowadays is kinda like a lottery and being in the right place at the time implies that Hololive is already Hololive not just Cover as tech company so Sora just happen to be their first debut while that obviously not the case

>>67021814
this is the correct answer

>>67092708
Swap Ayame and Suisei.

>>67021942
Watame retiring will trigger watamate massacres all over the world

>>67069474
Mori does a lot for the new holoens
If there’s a pillar for ENs like Mio/Subaru is for JPs it’s Mori

>>67092708
Gotta be more objective anon, I like flare but it wouldn't be more then meh for the company if she left. Ayame as well.
You have all the successful singers except Marine very undervalued.

>>67097825
reasonable
>>67099259
Flare is crucial for sankisei and shiraken.

>>67099769
Cool, now swap Ayame and Korone

>>67099769
Swap Miko and PekoMari. Miko might be the soul of hololive for us fans, but not an emotional pillar to other members like someone like Fubuki or Mio is.
The loss she would cause is simply her value as a talent and there isn't a big impact behind the scene.
And if we're talking about value as a talent Pekora and Marine are the biggeset ones

>>67099769
Swap Miko with PekoMari. Miko might be the soul of hololive for us fans, but not an emotional pillar to other members like someone like Fubuki or Mio is.
The loss she would cause is simply her value as a talent and there won't be a big impact behind the scene.
And if we're talking about value as a talent Pekora and Marine are the biggeset ones

>>67021248
YAGOO getting replaced would change everything

>>67042450
>The only way to make cover fall is destroying fan's trust in the company
Debut more males and e-celeb collabs are more then enough

>>67021248
Sora might be sad.
But pekora leaving might do some irreversible permanent damage to the company quality.

>>67059695
>Something like an advisor role
Yeah, Marine is really good at that

>>67103441
>yagoo gets replaced by someone who's as cartoon villain as niji ceo

>>67061281
like this anon said >>67070551. it's been established that most of the money comes from sponsors and merch sales.

>>67022110
WIth coco and Rusia, they also showed the rest of the girls that there is life after hololive.

With the type of shcedules they have, it must be tempting to move to somewhere where you can just stream when you want to and you know most of your hardcore fanbase will follow.

>>67033122
Doesn't suisei actually own her character so by quitting, she could actually just walk out and continue as suisei? Even join niji or heck vshojo if she wanted

Gura would hurt the most because Gura has the big number and that's what the investors who don't actually watch vtubers but have all the money understand.

>>67099769
koyori is the number 1 right now, i'd bump her.

>>67105289
members close to Marine:
>Aqua:been low-active for long time
>Shion:constantly on break
>Kanata:less active and health issues
>Lamy:less active and health issues
>Cloe:less active and health issues
what advice is she giving to them other than "take a break when you want to"

>>67105289
>members close to Marine:
>Aqua:been low-active forever
>Shion:constantly on a break
>Kanata:less active and health issues
>Lamy:less active and health issues
>Cloe:less active and health issues
what advice is she giving to them other than "take a break when you want to"

>>67021248
Pekora or Marine.
For EN, just Gura would deal the largest blow.

>>67059558
I thought this too, they could even add a twist and have her play the kouhai to A-chan

>>67092708
>>67099769
move Shion down.

>>67021248
Mori

Ok serious answer: Marine, Gura, Suisei, Pekora and Fubuki

>>67118597
She's quite literally the most popular holo on that whole tier.

>>67112118
The current hypothesis is that she used to own her character, but at some point sold the rights to Cover to get her redesign and various outfits etc

>>67021248
Okayu because not only do you lose Okayu, Korone will probably follow suit soon after.

>>67021248
Miko.

>>67119312
She ain't popular than Okayu
She's one of the most absent ones along with Gura and Ayame. She's not a part of any significant groups nor important to someone and posibly make them distraught either.
Definitely belongs to meh tier

>>67099769

Honestly I think Mori

>>67121092
Absolute garbage, you should be permanently banned for posting this.

>>67119312
She ain't popular than Okayu
She's one of the most absent ones along with Gura and Ayame.
Not a part of any significant groups nor important to someone and posibly make them distraught either.
Definitely belongs to meh tier

>>67121238
She's been more popular than Okayu since the beginning of times, hell, nowadays she's more popular than Korone.

>>67121092

>>67121385
>using number
>know nothing about rare buff

>>67101585
Nah PekoMari could graduate anytime soon but it still won't mean apocalypse to hololive, just see Rushia and Coco for example they were 2 of the holos with the biggest values and hololive is still here even stronger even after they're gone from hololive, just being the biggest isn't enough. I say just Sora, Fubuki, and Miko would deal much damage to Cover's reputation and emotionally because they're the hololive pillars.

>>67121426
The first myth to go would be fucking massive, no matter who it was. After that it'd probably have less of an impact

>>67121636
Rare buff doesn't apply when the stream frequency has been the same since the beginning.

>>67121426

Any EN could graduate at any point and no one would care

>>67111352
>they also showed the rest of the girls that there is life after hololive
An interesting thought is that after hololive they are pretty much forced to continue activities as their RM due to how much exposure being a holo has given them. Popping up again in another corp with a new identity is close to impossible since they'll always have randoms that go "hey is this the girl that was in hololive?" in chat

>>67121886
I get that this is a shitpost, but I still don't get the Aki position.
She's really not anybody I ever paid any real attention to, so if it's not just random trolling... QRD?

>>67021435
Gura leaving would just make it official

>>67122655
Same thing as Laplus, possibly worse. She left the Holobox. You can collab with male, but don't leave the Holobox.

>>67121784
It does because she can only do the streams that get numbers and sit out at other times
Most of her streams are collabs, announcements and the most viral game atm like OnlyUp, Suika game, exit 8, etc.
While Okayu plays a lof of RPGs and unpopular games. Okayu can easily get Shion's number if she stream that way

>>67059252
>watermelon IEDs in breakroom and multiple other locations

>>67122752
What does that even mean?

lmao at people saying Pekora
she would be the same kind of blow as Coco or Rushia, she doesn't have the kind of internal presence that holds Hololive together and thus her leaving can't be a catastrophe, in the exact opposite way that Fubuki leaving would be a disaster even if her >numbers are shit

>>67121728
Rusia wasbest at earnerning superchats. She never had that much of presence among members nor was the most well-known of all.
Coco had the biggest impact in holo's history imo but at the time when she graduated holo was already catching the wave and thriving without her.
On the other hand PekoMari are at the forefront of holo's popularity right now. They're not the same.
And idk about among western fans but among jp fans Miko is both one of the most loved and hated holomems. She's not the same as Fubuki or Sora that every fan see as the face of the agency

>>67121728
Rusia was just best at earnerning superchats. She never had that much of presence among members nor was the most well-known of all.
Coco had the biggest impact in holo's history imo but at the time when she graduated holo was already catching the wave and thriving without her.
On the other hand PekoMari are at the forefront of holo's popularity right now. They're not the same.
And idk about among western fans but among japanese fans Miko is both one of the most loved and hated holomems. She's not the same as Fubuki or Sora that every fan sees as the face of the agency

>>67123777
>>67123895

>>67021248
Basically any of the more popular ones. Pekora, Marine, Miko, Fubuki, Suisei, Subaru, etc. Sora, being the OG, would also be pretty dire. Normally I would say Gura too but she's basically soft graduated at this point.
>>67123000
Very subjective post. You may as well just say you don't like her and that's your reason.
She's well known nationally and globally to the point even others outside of Hololive know quite a lot about her, quite moreso than other members in fact. To not say Pekora would just be ignorant or schizo. Losing Pekora would definitely be a blow to Hololive, maybe not in the way that matters to (You) but it would be a blow.

>>67122984
Aki has done 9 collabs with Ecelebs or Holostars in January so far (on her own channel).
Those 9 streams add up to 43:45:32
She has streamed 50:57:45 so far. That's 85% of time spent on these collabs.
Those 9 collabs made $988. Meanwhile, 4 Mario Kart streams, lasting 3:05:27, made $1001.

>>67123895
Anon, why are you delteing and reposting everytime? This is like the fifth time you did so.

>>67123978
every post is subjective
are you ok?

>>67124065
No? Plenty of posts that are objective.
Are you ok?

>>67124180
t. makes objectively shit posts

>>67124239
I accept your concession.

>>67123978
Gura graduating would probably be expected by a lot of people. It would still be damaging though because Cover has basically made her the brand mascot. imagine if Disney dropped mickey mouse as their mascot. He's not really relevant in movies, but the character is still the face of the company nonetheless.

>>67124252
Every single time I see this post I know I won

>>67124286
Yeah that's true.

>>67124382
Funny since you immediately resorting to ad hominem is how I know I won. Only those with nothing else of value to say do that.

>>67124497
stop replying weirdo

>>67124631
>he says as he keeps replying himself
You first weirdo.

>>67040938
what if she reincarnates anon

>>67124731
don't talk to me ever again, buddy

>>67123895
Antis aren't fans you dumbass Miko is still one of the most beloved holos everywhere

>>67033122
Subaru actually belongs in the first group with pekora, marine, etc. She doesn't get much exposure in EN communities, but she's up there with the top streamers in JP.

>>67124065
>>67124180
>>67124239
>>67124252
>>67124382
>>67124497
>>67124631
>>67124731
>>67124970
I'm replying to you both

>>67123895
Cover sees Miko as the face of the agency, she's the ambassador of hololive and Tokyo, literally hololive's representative. Her graduation would be a PR disaster for Cover and emotionally for holomems.

>>67021942
with watame i think the world would be a bit darker...

>>67125229
not really. one tier below Pekora Marine Miko is more fitting as a streamer

>>67065979
>be news reporter
this just in! mass riots over the incrassation of tsunomaki watame rages on as the judge has found watame guilty! A large crowd of people emerged from the court house this morning and it has grew in size from bystanders hearing what has happened to hololive's fluffiest sheep
this has been holonews

>>67125976
Imagine Yagoo leaving. HoloEN would be passed to some faggot instead and the company would just collapse.

>>67021248
Any of the so called first army would have the biggest impact for obvious reasons. Sora and Fubuki would too but mostly if, for some ungodly reason, they'd happen to part on bad terms. If they just retire without drama or, even better, they keep on working inside the company as ex-talents, it would make a much smaller difference.
If I *had* to choose only one, I'd probably go with Pekora too. She's the single biggest contributor to the holobox and the void she would leave on a day-to-day basis would be the most palpable, having the biggest potential of decreasing their mindshare. Of all the venues Hololive tried to expand to over the years, I think streaming's still the only one they wouldn't be ready to abandon yet, so my rationale is that losing Pekora would pretty much deal the biggest blow to their most important asset. Maybe that'll change over the years, but I don't really think they're quite there yet.

>>67021248
People are seriously underestimating how bad Korone’s graduation would be

>>67125976
>Matsuri and Roboco graduating would be "meh"

>>67021248
Pekora, Marine or Suisei would probably be the biggest ones purely for popularity sakes. Korone and Miko not that far off, Fubuki would likely be the most impactful behind the scenes, Sora purely for the fact of being the one who started it at all.

>>67021248
After surviving coco and rushia, its not about the talents anymore for them. However they seems to be slowly moving out of that formula and brand that causing them blowing up in the first place, creating many variant of cancers around the casts making it harder for people to stick around to find new girls after their oshi is necked. So sankisei crumbling would leave a massive hole on the box.

>>67129170
He’s not wrong, they aren’t that popular and they’re both actively doing rm shit so their fans wouldn’t lose out.

>>67126265
HoloEN should be passed to me so I can abuse my power and groom every girl.

>>67130692
Cover's major shareholders already tried that. They wanted to have irl face to face "handshake" meetings with the talents but Yagoo said no. I'm not kidding.

Gura, Sora, Fubiki, Mio, or oddly enough Ame

I do not choose these names because they are tremendously successful, but because they serve as anchor points in a roundabout way. Their contribution and support lifts morale of the others in on way or another.

>>67124382
Thanks doc

Marine, Suisei, Pekora, Aqua, Miko, or Fubuki leaving would make a dent, but that's about it.

>>67021248
Fubuki said that if she graduates, it means the company has turned into a black company.
Whether you believe her or not, if something happens and Fubuki suddenly quits, then assume the worst.

>>67130785
Thank you autocorrect for turning Fubuki into Fubiki

>>67130692
t.Malaysian

>>67092708
Okay now redo this but using the 1st-7th trumpets as ranks

>>67125976
Most accurate list so far, but I think Kobo deserves to be either bad or disaster given her popularity while Ao should be swapped with Raden.

>>67119312
>>67121385
for one, that's not true. she's not as popular as Okayu. probably not even as Botan or Ayame. (popularity isn't strictly CCV.)
but also, if you look at who else he put in that tier, it's obvious he meant their presence in the company as a whole (ads, collab groups, background work). Shion is more isolated. she hasn't been as crucial to Hololive.

>>67123980
money isn't strictly superchats.