/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

First day on the internet? Please stop making Mel threads, it hurts.

>>66936071
This is a hololive board. Also, you're a fag.

> people
> Either subhuman trash from SEA that are Phasecucks or Nijiniggers
These are incompatible.

>>66936256
fpbp
>>66936326
spbp

>>66936071
The "Non Disclosure" in "NDA" means "Do not disclose".
It does not mean "Don't disclosure except to people you, like, super-duper trust. It's cool bro".

Is it sad that she had a moment of dumbness in a period of grief? Yes.
Is her termination justified? Also yes.

>>66936071
No information+ no drama+minor talent+plausible official explanation doesn't leave much room for non schizo discussion anon.
If and when more information will come out then people will care more

>>66936619
Bootlicker

>>66936071 (OP)
The "Non Disclosure" in "NDA" means "Do not disclose".
It does not mean "Don't disclose except to people you, like, super-duper trust. It's cool bro".

Is it sad that she had a moment of dumbness in a period of grief? Yes.
Is her termination justified? Also yes.

>>66936668
You must be 18 to post here.

>>66936071
Im not even a holofan but she did it by accident and i cant really blame hololive for doing what they did for breaking NDA. Thats normal everywhere in the world of business. Shes not really gonna starve either her other channel is SUPER successful sooooo. Theres really no reason to be mad imo

>>66936668
>>66936669
(I reposted because of a typo, this was replying to this)
Anon, that's not what bootlicking is. Mel signed an agreement not to disclose certain things. She then disclosed certain things. As a result, she faced a consequence for doing the thing she said she wasn't going to do.
Please get a job.

>>66936326
spbp

>>66936071
Corpo drones acting like you’d expect to protect their favorite brand. Honestly at least the obsessed schizos who anti perceived threats to their oshi have a logic to their actions even if they’re awful. Corpocucks on the other hand baffle me.

>>66936669
>>66936816
>"She broke a rule I don't understand under a context I don't know, so it seems fair to me that she receives the maximum punishment possible. She should be glad Cover didn't sue for damages."
btw I break my NDA with my family all the time, and I work in a more sensitive industry than fucking vtubing

>>66937054
That's not something to be proud of, anon. You should stop doing that.

>>66936326
spbp

>>66936071
Aki should be next. Shameless fucking whore immediately going back to her e-celebs.

>>66937160

>>66936668
but enough about nijifags.

>>66937054
Careful Anon, some Holoshizo will try to doxx you and sell you out to your company.

>>66937272
we are not nijifags.

>>66936071
No one's "supporting" her termination you fag, the simple facts is that she broke NDA and some retarded cuntface snitched on her. It's really sad but they can't just let it slide as it's a slippery slope but no one has ill will toward her, it's just saddening.

>>66936668
>Bootlicker

>>66936668
>>66936619
Samefag, falseflag and self-delete
BROWN-B-GONE!

>>66937312
Niji or Holo, I wouldn't trust a single faggot on 4chan, so my warning still stands.

>>66936071
She should learn to get better friends

>>66936256
Every thread should be a Mel thread

>>66936071
No one supported it, sounded like Hololive didn't even really want to do it. Like Mel herself even was like "Yea I fucked up bad" and just let it happen with no push. I do love all of the underage's sayings stuff stuff about NDA's though when Mel herself handled all of the shit that happened to her very professionally considering.

>>66937337
>they can't just let it slide as it's a slippery slope
It's a literal slippery slope fallacy if you have half a brain and think about the things she could have leaked.
What could she have leaked, while venting to a friend, that was simultaneously damaging enough for Cover that this person thought to report it, but NOT bad enough to warrant Rushia-like termination?

>>66936071
>my cat died so it's okay that I broke my contract, violated the NDA I signed and leaked sensative information to a friend

>>66937054
And did your family snitch on you to the company? No? Then fuck off.

homo collaber
don't care for her because I'm not a cuck

>>66937424
you are a faggot on 4chan, so we shouldn't trust your warning.

>>66937632
>uuhhh fallacy!! hehehe
Retard. You let it happen once, it sets a precedent. If it happens again with another talent, and you take action, how is that fair?

>What could she have leaked, while venting to a friend, that was simultaneously damaging enough

Oh, on a business about identity secrecy? I don't know...
>addresses
>real names
>ages
>future projects
>ongoing projects

To put it short, they are given clear instructions in the contract to not leak things. Yes, they probably leak it all the time but officially if they're caught they're breaching the contract. She did it and got caught. She admitted she messed up. Yes, it's sad, but those are the rules and you can't just give someone a get out of jail free card and expect things to run smoothly in the future. Retard.

>>66936669
what did she disclose? you dont know? oh...

>>66937664
Btw the contract covers everything which isn't publicly disclosed by the company. So a Holo telling their family "I was recording a dance with IRyS" would be breaking their NDA, the only thing they could say is "I was at work between 4pm and 9pm".

>>66936816
They could just not fire her, is this a Japanese autism thing? "I contractually can terminate the contract now, therefore I must?"

>>66937937
That's not a factor in this discussion. All that matters is that she disclosed something she shouldn't have. Knowing specifically what it was does not change the situation.

>hololive: Mel screwed up and he had no choice but to fire her
>fans: Man, it sucks but I see why hololive fired her
>Mel: I trusted the wrong person, got burned and I fully accept the consequences
>nijinigs: AAAIIIEEEEEE THIS IS WORSE THAN ANYTHING NIJI HAS EVER DONE, COVER LITERAL BLACK COMPANY WHY AREN'T YOU MAKING MORE THREADS, YOU HOLOBRONY BOOTLICKERS

she is in the wrong. why would we defend the wrong?

>>66938068
i do feel really sad for mel though. this was a net loss for everyone involved except that prick "friend" of hers

>>66936256
You have never watched a single stream of Mel. Pretty much none of this board did. The general combining her and other bottom of the barrel talents has been dying for long. Mel was quite literally irrelevant for EOPs, she didn't even really have clips. I wage this is the first time most of the board heard about her existence.

>>66938137
nijifags lies? shocked.

>>66937916
>Oh, on a business about identity secrecy? I don't know...
>addresses
>real names
>ages
>future projects
>ongoing projects

Yes, my friends and I (same industry, different employers) often talk shop and exchange this kind of information. I know about the rough comings-and-goings of adjacent companies, as do they about mine. It's extremely common here, and while we're not privy to super-classified info we do exchange info that could have minor worldwide repercussions if shared with a journalist or a direct competitor.

The fact that people do this ALL THE TIME (and do you really think celebrity streamers, of all people, don't gossip?) makes the Mel situation even more infuriating. It sounds like she confided in someone she thought she could trust, vented about some situation at work that was weighing on her, under the IMPLICIT UNDERSTANDING that person would keep it to themselves, and what did they do? Snitch directly to Mel's employer. Then Mel's employer fired her, cause muh corpo culture + muh Japan.

>>66937664
It quite literally is, they'd ignore it if they didn't already want her out due to low numbers.

>>66938137
I watch Mel, Aki and Choco and buy/bought merch. Kill yourself.

>>66938370
You and your friends regularly dox your coworkers? I hope I never have to deal with your industry.

>>66938370
It doesn't matter how you or the company you and your friends work on do things, this is an industry where saying the wrong thing can get an entire branch shut down (look at Coco). I'm not saying that it's not an infuriating situation and that Mel deserved better, or that you're not even justified for thinking the way you do, but I am saying that for Cover to instantly terminate Mel without a delay and the cause being an ill-willed third party, the leaked contents must've been... not pretty, or at least inexcusable to turn a blind eye for the future.

Kapumin still coping huh

I'm surprised by how many antis her RM`s apology tweet is getting.

Nips on twitter are straight up hearthless

>>66936071
>What a little fucking bitch!
This but unironically.

>>66938654
>twitter
that right there is the issue

>>66938573
>this is an industry where saying the wrong thing can get an entire branch shut down
nigga COVER shut down that branch!
that's some strong "you gotta let jesus in to protect you from what he'll do to you if you don't let him in" energy

>>66938050
she didnt disclose shit

>>66938802
jesus anon. how new are you to have takes this retarded. were you even here for when the events that other anon is bringing up were happening?

>>66938919
Who shut down Cover's CN branch?
You can't say Cover.

>>66938802
>>66938975
And exactly why Cover shut down the branch?

>>66938573
>coco commited the grave crime of saying taiwan and got bullied into graduation after they axed china branch
>mel commited the grave crime of ??? and got fired on spot
huh

>>66938370
cool. why don't you share your name, your friend's ame, addresses, where you work and all the secret stuff you know? it's not a big deal right

Reminder that if you're not spamming every hololive member's chat and twitter replies with demands to bring her back you don't care about justice and fairness.

>>66939282
Dont act like a black.

>>66939177
NTA, but I have no idea how people would even bring up protected information in normal conversation. The idea that it happens often is baffling.

>>66939065
You can't really compare these anon. Coco didn't do anything wrong, she just pissed off the entire chinese fanbase because... they're retards, but they were so numerous and would spam streams of other talents just for collabing with Coco that both Coco and Cover made the decision to announce her graduation.

In this case Mel leaked things she shouldn't have. As people usually do with trusted friends, but that snitch was ill-intentioned and probably told Cover in the worst possible light possible to make it as big of as deal as possible. Yes, it's sad, but even Mel admitted she was in the wrong when Cover did what they did.

>>66938919
Didn’t they ultimately decide doing business in west taiwan wasn’t worth it anymore? The Coco and Haachama incident was just part of it. I remember reading about a bunch of laws that would have hurt their ability to operate

>>66939025
Good fucking question, I bet you couldn't fully explain it yourself, will be looking for any opportunity to avoid explaining it, and will immediately accuse me of projecting.

>>66939346
The silver lining is that Mel seems to have maintained her relationship with Cover and its talents. I could see her collabing with them on her RM or outright rejoining down the line.

Why did we suddenly start to bootlick cover corp now

>>66939346
>even Mel admitted she was in the wrong
This isn't worth much when Asian (and esp. Japanese) communities have the concept of "face" and you must dicksuck your betters at every turn.

>>66939346
>Mel admitted she was in the wrong
But she wasn't in the wrong.

>>66939514
>The silver lining is that Mel seems to have maintained her relationship with Cover and its talents. I could see her collabing with them on her RM or outright rejoining down the line.
Bro, they are deleting her channel.
Even holos who amicably graduated never openly collaborated with a holo again, afaik.

It might be futile but if we have till the end of Feb everyone that isn't subscribed should subscribe and encourage others to subscribe to get her to 1 million before the end. Its not much but it would be a nice send off

>>66938068
I feel bad for Mel, just too nice and dumb. Also she went out of it with no shitfit and just said she fucked up and left. I don't get the point of these threads even when she just said what she did and agreed to leaving.
>>66939514
Probably cause Mel was so good about the whole thing and it seemed they didn't really wnat to fire her, but had cause business be like that since if you play favorites the one time it looks bad.

>>66938654
Nips have societal authoritarianism coursing through their veins. Once someone breaks the rules, they become an outcast who should be harassed mercilessly until they kill themselves. They are literal bugmen.

>>66939692
>I don't get the point of these threads even when she just said what she did and agreed to leaving.
So if your waifu's boyfriend started beating the crap out of her but she said she "deserved it" you would be chill?

>>66939692
>I don't get the point of these threads even when she just said what she did and agreed to leaving.

It's because these fucking redditors want to talk gossip and being an anti is board culture now apparently.

>>66936071
>"it was a person not related to streaming, the internet or even vtubing"
Sure thing. It was definitely someone that provided le penis based on that

>>66939768
Not even trying with that strawman bro. Why are all of your posts so retarded and yes you can tell what posts are yours.

>>66939768

>>66939723
This is why japanese vtubers will always be inferior to western ones.

>>66939828
What a retarded reply. Don't talk to me again.

>>66939346
yes, coco didnt do anything wrong. the thing is that COVER indirectly forced her to graduate, its the japanese culture. its nearly impossible to get fired in japan, they will just make your life so miserable that you quit yourself and thats what happened with coco.

>>66937977
That has to be illegal in any civilized country

>>66939910
>its nearly impossible to get fired in japan
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>66939892
Bro stop being a fucking retarded and shitting in the thread, we can see you do it. Your posts are not cleaver and make no sense.

>>66939661
>Bro, they are deleting her channel.
Did they announce that? It was assumed that her channel would be privated.

>>66939910
anon this is strictly not true and I will put zero effort in disproving you because anyone who actually know anything about what happened with Coco knows you're full of shit

>>66940019
He has been trying all day to get people to believe him, please understand. Legit getting people today trying to rewrite history with Rushia saying she did nothing wrong and was getting bullied by Aqua.

>>66937664
Thats not the point in that story, it was to try and imply it wasn't a streamer that leaked it.
Which means, it was definitely a streamer that leaked it.

>>66939661
doubt they'll collab on RM but they can meet offline for lunch or something

>>66940082
Choco collabs with Kson on her RM.

>>66939956
>clueless faggot suprised

>>66937632
If the last twenty years have taught me anything, is that the slippery slope isn't only real, it is a pillar of reality. To answer your question though:
>leaking internal deals, details about her contract, merch percentages, etc
>leaking recording/studio locations
>leaking irl names/contact info of the managers through showing their messages
>>66938370
>I know about the rough comings-and-goings of adjacent companies, as do they about mine.
That just means either you're not trusted with important info or your business doesn't have the need for secrecy. Random burger flipper or IT guy can talk about his workday, accountant or laywer really can't.

>>66940082
That is a given. If termination froma company means you cannot meet up with your friends from that company anymore then you are living in a corporate dystopia.

>>66940140
This is literally a thread about someone that got fired, retard.

>>66938234
>>66938411
Oh yeah, prove me wrong then, share 3 interesting moments of her random streams. Not from collabs, not from clips, and not anything from the past 1 month. You can surely do it, give a link with a timestamp, if you're that big of a Mel fan. Or you're just a lying concernfag? Nooo I'm sure you aren't.

>>66936326
/Thread

>>66940128
number 1 she wasn't terminated, number 2 it's RM account, not holo account.

>>66940128
Roboco, Noel and a few other have actually even showed up on a stream before. Just she does a lot of flesh tubing, so they showed up as a person and not their avatar

>>66939692
>I don't get the point of these threads
nijinigs trying to make Cover look like the blackest company ever so that they shit they do doesn't look as bad in comparison
BVTM making shit threads and screencaping them on twitter for updoots
SEAnig schizos just making bait threads tonshit upnthe catalog because that's what they always do

>>66938121
>>66939692
That's how I feel too. I'm not angry with Mel or Cover, I'm sad for them both. It was a bad end to a nice streamer. A streamer who already overcame a previous bad situation.
But what's done is done and both sides realized they had to end it. She didn't try to drag anyone else down and even got a small chance to say some final words. It could have gotten way uglier.

>>66940179
Because the employee had a breach of contract, when people say it's impossible to fire someone is if you don't have a serious reason, like if you dislike someone or they are underperforming.

>>66940173
>If the last twenty years have taught me anything, is that the slippery slope isn't only real, it is a pillar of reality.
This is some real schizo shit.

>>66939949
In civilized countries, contracts aren't applied to the letter most of the time (and yes it's sub-optimal and mildly retarded, for example plenty of employment contracts have noncompetes that are unenforceable 99% of the time but young impressionable retarded professionals still get hung up on them through stupid self-perpetuated myths).

>>66940173
>That just means either you're not trusted with important info or your business doesn't have the need for secrecy.
It's videogames.

>>66940278
>Because the employee had a breach of contract
But you would argue that actually they didn't breach their contract and the accusation was made up and exaggerated in order to get rid of someone that was hated and underperforming.

>>66936071
no im shitting on her supposed friend, as many other people are

>>66940278
>it's literally IMPOSSIBLE TO GET FIRED IN JAPAN
>but this is a thread about getting fired
>b-but its because this is a serious reason!!

Fucking retard. The whole point of firing someone is because they did something serious.

>>66940239
If she really wanted to, she could have tried to drag it out and get more money or try to get them to settle and just give her money. Mel decide to just own up to it and leave on good terms instead, so good on her.

>>66938137
pomu was never good, go back to /b nijisister

>>66940186
>Share 3 interesting moments of her random streams
>not from clips
shut up faggot, that's basically not possible to do for any vtuber unless you've only seen around 20 hours of vtubers.
Once you get to 3000,4000, 10000 hours etc of watching streams memory no longer works like that.

>>66939723
You are a retarded amerimutt who probably also thinks that there really are vending machines for used panties in Japan and that women get groped regularly on the subway in Japan>>66939723

>>66940380
>the accusation was made up and exaggerated in order to get rid of someone that was hated and underperforming.

hated???? by who?????? and underperforming??? so they'll fire mel for... bringing money to the table? even though they have zero benefit in doing that and losing talents is horrible for the agency? are you out of your fucking mind?

>>66939604
An ideal society, unironically

>>66940407
You see Cover hated Coco for saying that Taiwan is a country because Cover is a chinese company but Coco didn't do anything serious so they couldn't fire her but instead put jer in the punishment room and harassed her until she quit.

>>66940463
Anon, both of these things actually happen.

>>66940299
No one is going to risk money, time, or reputation in any combination to go against them, and the fact you can take someone to court with it means it has legal system backing and isn't just a piece of paper to get "hung up" on. And the bigger companies have the better lawyers to draft up agreements to not get trapped into unenforceable contracts unless they are stupid enough to let their C-suite misuse them like for covering sexual harassment.

>>66940280
Prove me wrong then

>>66940405
she has no real friends. always attempted rape or getting fucked by her employer.

>>66940522
This "ideal society" has been stuck in the 2000s since the 1970s due to hierarchy problems

>>66940580
No. I don't need to prove that extrapolation without evidence is inaccurate. It's basic statistics.

What's Mel's RM? I didn’t see the apology tweet

>>66940380
If multiple talents can get away with not streaming I don’t think they care about underperforming

>>66940636
You stole this word for word from a youtubd video essay

>>66940558
>I saw it in a meme so it’s real and true
>No, I never went to Japan, why?
kys

>>66940463
anon, there really are retarded vending machines in japan and women really get groped regularly to the point that there are women only places. how fucking retarded are you?

It has been fun discussing corporate affairs with you, gentlemen. Just wanted to let you know I'm a 19 year old fry cook

>>66940440
>it's not possible to remember streams
call memorable moments
I see.

>>66940725
Great, since you watched it I don't need to explain further!

>>66940186
Kill yourself
(you)

>>66940889
This has to be bait

>>66940884
Yes? It even applies to 3D lives and all of their most unique content.

>>66940407
Spoken like someone who never hired anyone before.
Just for your information, most of the firings that happen have no serious reason (called just cause) unless someone steals or act with violence or starts skipping work, the firing is an unjust cause, in most countries you don't need a reason as long as you pay the severance clauses but just causes are like 1% of firings and if that's necessary to fire someone it becomes virtually impossible, as long as the employee doesn't want to be fired.

>>66941018
Anon I'm literally arguing for the fact that being fired happens regularly and it indeed occurs in Japan.

>>66941018
NTA, but this is a case where the terminated person admitted to breaking NDA, which is grounds for immediate termination without severance in Japan.

>>66940965
I don't know about remembering nothing but I don't remember much these days

>>66940799
Okay, go to Tokyo and go look for pantsu vending machines
Then come back and tell us how many you found
Dipshit

>>66941183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burusera

>>66941255
Please be bait
You cannot be this retarded

>>66941255
>The police alleged violations of the Secondhand Articles Dealer Act which bans the purchase of secondhand goods without authorization
Is the most interesting thing for me. That is silly.

>>66936071
zero tolerance breeds quality
too bad for her but it had to be done

>>66941255
there are significantly worse and actually harmful things in america such as politician-endorsed child trafficking rings and pizzeria basement sex dungeons

>>66941313
You are arguing for the non-existence of something that has been documented.

>>66940958
>discussing topic
>quote relevant video essay
>bro that's from a video
>yeah!
>you must be baiting me

>>66941122
yes this is a just cause termination, never argued against that, I'm replying to the guy that is contesting that it's hard to fire people in japan

>>66941074
https://leglobal.law/countries/japan/employment-law/employment-law-overview-japan/07-termination-of-employment-contracts/
>Termination due to economic reasons such as redundancies is rigorously restricted in Japan. Japanese judicial precedent has established the practice that the following four factors should be met: (a) necessity of decreasing the number of employees; (b) necessity of adopting the “unilateral termination of employment contract” method as a means of employment adjustment; (c) adequate selection of the employees whose employment contracts are to be terminated; and (d) adequacy of the termination procedure. Importantly, with regards to (b), it requires that the employer fulfills its best effort obligation to avoid the termination.

>>66941383
>EN
>quality

>>66936071
Why are you looking so hard for drama when there is none?

>>66941423
You are arguing that it’s a common thing and that the japanese are some irredeemable filthy society full of degenerates which mind you is pure projecting assuming that you’re an american

>>66941505
but both societies are pretty toxic in that way

>>66941444
yeah, you must be baiting if you’re taking video essays as the gospel truth on a complicated topic/issue
you must be over 18 to post here

Lot of discussion here about employees getting fired, but the talents are not Cover employees. They're probably something closer to contractors.

This really sucks, Mel feels like she had some solid momentum building since about 6 months ago. I loved has she did collabs with the end even if she had to struggle through them English wise.

>>66941505
Not at all. I am simply arguing that it exists. I only need one example for sufficient proof against an argument of non-existence.

>>66941444
Nice strawman

>>66941505
you are changing the goalpost from it doesnt exist to its not that common. anon, just admit that you are wrong and you dont know a single shit about japan besides fetishizing it for some godforsaken reason.

>>66941569
For fans, they're closer to demi-gods so I understand when people are annoyed that some corpo can cause harm to that perception

Why are phasecucks asking disingenuous questions? Is this graduation the only thing they got? If you wanna start shit you can do better than that

>>66941653
I will be Japanese, you cannot stop me

>>66941564
It's absolutely fascinating, your posts sound so retarded you've actually given me a glimpse of what it's like to live out your delusions and perceive others.

>>66941466
what?

>>66941726
>this country is bad because this random basedbeard-having individual on youtube said so

>>66941564
>>66941726
Also, you watched the video.
You won't accept it has any worth in a discussion but you still watched it. All 20 minutes of it.

>>66941725
based

>>66936071
Unironically Hope the snitch get stitches

>>66941653
I was in japan and after walking two feet I walked into a place that was selling loli hentai doujins on open shelves.

>>66941864
uhhh, so why'd you walk in there?

>>66942082
he looked for used panties and couldnt find them

>>66940659
okay, legalizing homosexuality lead to drag queen story time and hormone replacement therapy for toddlers.
Btw we still haven't had any clips of her leaking the info, i wanna see hard evidence instead of rrats and speculation.

>>66942082
Clearly they didn’t know any Japanese and just wandered into a random store

>>66942277
>tries to own an anon
>ends up proving his point
Many such cases

>>66942358
huh?

>>66940659
Are you suggesting statistics are a pillar of reality? Woaaaah schizo hours, got a source for that?

>>66942635
You need an instrument to measure statistics. I would suggest starting with my cock.

>>66942704
No thanks, mine is smaller and thus more precise.

>>66938886
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream

>>66942810
fucking hell, you didn't have to do yourself like that

>>66939065
Meanwhile, Rushia...

>>66939639
Ok anon, if you know something just tell us, if not shut up, because you have no evidence. The only evidence by now is the announcement. Fucking nothing else.

I would say y'all niggas need jesus, but i don't want you in the christian religion.

>>66943167
You're not funny, go back reddit shitter.

>>66943162
We also have Rica's statement.

>>66942935
please tell us what did mel disclose and state your sources.

>>66942277
>Btw we still haven't had any clips of her leaking the info, i wanna see hard evidence instead of rrats and speculation
Not everything happens on stream.
I prefer speculation. That way I can blame the things that were already making Hololive worse.

>>66943162
evidence: mel is a good girl and wouldent do a yab. this was an inside job

>>66943281
NTA, but Mel admitted in her RM statement that she shared information with a third party.

>>66937054
By any chance, do you live in Alabama?

If she wasn't terminated, these threads would be filled with the same people screeching about hypocrisy and/or favoritism (especially the fandeads).

Imagine not reading the RM statement and trying to argue just based on the termination announcement.

>>66936669
Why do you care so much about an NDA in a contract between a talent and her company? Me personally I couldn't care less about that.She hasn't betrayed the fans and that's the only thing that should warrant a termination.

>>66944188
>my personal feelings matter!
No

i don't but also don't pretend like she is brutally murdered by Hololive.

>>66936071
She collabed with males. She was dead to me before she got fired. Not that I hate her, but I ain't exactly crying tears of her being gone.

>>66944188
You could live in the real world.
There's no reason for you to be mad at her because she's done nothing to you personally, but that doesn't mean you need to toss all reason out the window and pretend nothing happened and Cover were just firing her to be petty and malicious.

Here's a google translate of her letter. what else we got fellow holohomos?

>>66945874
This reads as though it's a suspension.

Did any of you actually watch mel

>>66946054
Yes. Bye sister

This is why I never get emotionally attached to corpo vtubers. They can get deleted in an instant, and fans will cheer on the company for wiping out a character with more than half a decade of history.

>>66946488
>cheer on the company
Give me examples of this. The majority of posts I've seen are split between "Mel fucked up, it's unfortunate but can't be helped" and "Mel fucked up, it's unfortunate but Cover should've done more to keep her". What alternate reality do you come from where Cover is being praised for this?

>>66946488
I see not a single stream watcher cheering on this.

>>66936071
Watch your fucking mouth bitch. Don't ever speak like that about Kotoka again.

>>66936071
Blue Dorito can do no wrong.

>>66946488
>Hey guys I'm quitting vtubing (totally not joining a corpo ;))
Whom are you trying to fool here?

>>66946488
I've watched indie vtubers that have had their channels randomly banned by youtube and all their content removed from the internet. At least with corpo vtubers there'll be people who backup their shit.

>>66945980
It's from her PL, hence the suspending activities bit

>>66936071
>people

>>66946488
There's a difference between cheering and agreeing. No one is cheering. You might have autism.8w4g8

>>66936515
tpfp

>>66936071
>Why are people supporting her termination?
Because she broke her NDA. I've got no sympy for someone who sticks her hand in a fire and gets burned. Even Mel supports her own termination kek

>>66936071
traitors like Mel and Rushia get the rope

>>66936071
It sent a message to all the VCR whores in Hololive.

>>66936071
mel cute

>>66940186
Mel powers up
https://youtu.be/2QU78_8l4OY?t=684
Mel dies after mining a ton of dias, which was hilarious because she just walked into it
https://youtu.be/To2kOOARDLE?t=4384
headshot, fuck you.
https://youtu.be/t7k0I_vBsAc?t=10900

>>66946488
You shouldn't get attached to vtubers in the first place
It's a mistake

>>66941131
>watched 36 hours in one day

>>66945874
>Lixiang

>>66962727
go back to /b pomu

Unfortunate but that's what happens when you have rats as friends. Good thing holo is just a side job for her and not her main source of income.

>>66945574
No, but as fan I choose loyalty to my oshi over cold hard logic. I will personally overlook anything she does as long as it doesn't betray the fans because I don't care about anything else.

>>66979697
>that's what happens when you have rats as friends
Bet what she did disclose was not that big of a deal.

>>66979697
>that's what happens when you have rats as friends
So, hololive talents?

>breaks contract
>says “yeah I did it I’m sorry”
>4channel tells me I’m wrong to think “yeah, that’s fair”
Curious

>>66937054
I’d snitch you out not even for money but just because it’d be funny to know your life had taken a turn for the worst and I was responsible.

>>66941131
>11hr 20 min daily average (down 25% from last week)
>79 hours last week
Shit, I thought I had it bad. I kneel.

>>66941131
Good sir, please explain how the fuck you got 36 hours of watch time in a day.

>>66937254
>>66937312
Then why are you supporting Hololive instead of Mel? I thought you said support the talent, not the company?
You're exactly what you accuse Nijisanji's fanbase of being.

>>66982375
>So, hololive talents?
I think he's talking about that Niji she had a collab with before she got terminated.

Kotoka or whatever her name was.

>>66984088
Mel admitted to it on her RM and took responsibility. Not downplaying that is supporting Mel. Being anti-Holo because Mel screwed up is obviously not what she wants.

but if she really were confiding in her friend, why it was even NDA noooooooo

>>66936071
>my friend cat dies
>better leak out private information about my job to make her feel better
That's solely the part I don't understand. How you make someone happy by sharing corporate information?

>>66985615
Mel's cat died. During her grief, she went to a friend and ended up telling them the information.

>>66974062
Thats impossible for angels like mel

>>66985689
But why? It doesn't follow at all
>"my cat died I'm so sad my friend"
>"by the way my company is doing this"

>>66936071
Because holofaggots are hypocrite contrarians most of them are from /mlp/ and /pol/ and you can just tell because all they do is project about Phase and Nijisanji every day while their company of choice is also engaging in black company practices and they decide to ignore it. And call you sea when they can't debate you and find themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place.

>>66937424
127.0.0.1
255.255.255.0
192.168.0.1

Get fucked idiot

>>66986187
Anon, sometimes you just rant when you're feeling upset. I assume that's what happened here.

Wrongful termination suit when?

>>66986651
Never. She admitted fault on her own RM account, so it's not even a possibility.

>>66987102
She can still sue them.

>>66987610
And immediately lose after the defence brings up the proof she admitted breaking her contract. Are you retarded?

>>66937054
Just wait till someone slips something by accident.

>>66937632
Mel has probably accidentally leaked shit for years but Cover has excused her time and time again. Then she finally got an ultimatum and stayed clean for a while. Then she did it again and they had to follow up on it.
That's my take on it anyway. A one-time mistake in the heat of a moment is not cause for termination, but consistent behavior even when you were told in no uncertain terms what the consequences are? That's something a company has to deal with, otherwise internal rules lose all credibility.

>>66944188
The fans don't sign big contracts with Cover to give them money in exchange for promotion, or for any sort of tech that Cover may license.

If it gets out that Cover does not honor their agreements with their staff, especially in Japan, no major tech company or advertiser will ever work with them again. No money, no vtubers.

No one fucking asked you if you could or couldn't care less, you don't sign her paychecks. If they don't fire her (which they clearly did reluctantly) they risk losing literally the rest of the talent down the road when they can't get any contracts because your stupid manchild ass just "wants to let it slide". How are you this fucking stupid that you can't figure this out?

>>66936071
Support is the wrong word for it.

>>66936071
>grieving the death of her cat
Do women really?

>>66990429
Pet owners are insane, they'll grieve the death of their dog or cat more than their own family members. If an animal dies in a movie they'll bawl their eyes out. If human dies? No big deal.

>>66992372
A lot of pets deserve it more than certain humans.

>>66936071
because it's ok when Cover does it

>>66988404
>no major tech company or advertiser will ever work with them again
This is bs. Noone (or very few people) would have heard about this whole situation if they didn't go public with it. It's not like she leaked shit to media or drama channels. Besides noone gives a single fuck about honoring agreements with staff when profits are on the table.
But for me that's not even the big issue. If she fucked up so bad (or that often) they could've just express graduated her cause of "personal reasons", "creative differences", whatever. You'd think sticking with the company through all the shit for 6 years would earn her that. Did it for fucking homos after all. Instead she got thrown to the wolves with a contract breach on the resume for what all parties agree was unintentional mistake. Fuck Cover for that.

>>66937632
Get a job.

>>66938397
Low numbers still make money. Your argument doesn't make any sense. Other girls have lower numbers.

>>66940522
you do realize most court cases in that proto chink shit hole are already decided the second they are filed, their own defamation law deems you guilty even if you speak the truth. Japan is a dystopian shit hole