/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nijisisters hacked her account.

you do wrong you get punishment
there's a specific punishment for every rule you break
leaking info means all of your shit gets deleted
it's ruthless and nips are very autistic when it comes to rules
but at the same time, that's why their society works (it's not perfect, but it works) while the Western world is in a decadent state

>>66883639
How does deleting the channel of someone who's no longer at the company punish them?

I wish those were my shota hands

It could be a monetisation issue: if she is a performer she might be entitled to a % cut and so its easier for them to remove the vids.

>>66883523
Cover's a black company

>>66883853
That's covered by their contracts, imagine if you hired somebody to work at your company for five years and after firing them you had to delete all their work. Come on, use your brain.

>>66884646
The videos continue to make money even after she'll be gone due to ad rev. That's the issue. Where does that money go when Mel is gone? Cover could just take it but that would be incredibly black
If things were ending on good terms then they could maybe come to an agreement, like with Sana. But that is not the case here

>>66884917
>Where does that money go when Mel is gone?
To Cover.
>Cover could just take it but that would be incredibly black
How is nuking her channel better???

jp autism

>>66884917
>Where does that money go when Mel is gone
If that was the issue they could just... turn off monetization?

>>66883717
Hololive deleting her channel erases the public record of her 5 year career. On paper the numbers might still exist but the actual content and signs of fan support have been erased. To delete her channel is 100% meant to be a Japanese style punishment against Mel for breaking her NDA.

She betrayed Yagoo

>>66886694
cool I'll never watch hololive again then

>>66883523
who's Mel?

they delete the channel of everyone e who leaves, how is this surprising?

>>66883639
>but at the same time, that's why their society works (it's not perfect, but it works) while the Western world is in a decadent state
I think it's more like they go far in some places the West doesn't go far enough and vice versa. In the Human Development Index, Japan and South Korea are only slightly better than the US. Think about that for a second.

>>66887936
Only for those who are terminated, graduated channels are still up
https://www.youtube.com/@KiryuCoco
https://www.youtube.com/@TsukumoSana

>>66888306
Rushia??

>>66888624
Terminated for leaking company information

>>66883523
all whores and homo colabers will get the boot, learn this already faggots.

>>66887520
That's the neat thing, you can't. It's going to be erased so you couldn't watch if you wanted to. :D

>>66884917
Bro... just turn off monetization...

holy how many fucking newfags

>>66887520
so, same as always for you, sis?

>>66883523
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>>66883523
It's in the best interest of all involved (Except the fans). The company Can't make money off of her hard work after she's canned and Mel Can't make money off of Hololive in the same way. Sure there might be ways to keep them up, or for the Talents to buy out the rights to their Vods/Character, but I suspect that will be rare and I assume termination kinda makes negotiations nil.

>>66883639
>the Western world is in a decadent state
didn't the western world need to intervene to make japan ban child porn

>>66888797
Well they called it a graduation publicly but it you're right in that it was 100% termination.

>crying for the deleted creampie homo collab vod
She had no interesting content whatsoever so who gives a shit if it gets deleted

>>66883523
>t. Newfag

>>66893260
They tried and the one leading it got in jail because he's the one who had true child porn not dumb shit like loli hentai

>>66893260
More like cunny drawings

>>66883523
The real question is does Yagoo feel safe? You always see that guy just roaming about at conventions and cafes and all it takes is just 1 schizo who loved his terminated oshi a little too much for it to be all ogre.

>>66883523
She already has a career outside Hololive, why would they want to associate her with a NDA breaking identity?

>>66883639
retarded, as if the corpo dont want the money from their recorded streams

>>66896353
they're japanese, they fired rushia and banishment roomed coco even though they could have easily salvaged both situations

>>66883523
I'm sure we'll see those horrible leaks really soon same as with Rushia. It's not like corpo would ever lie. Mel and Rushia LEAKED tons of classified information and we'll see those LEAKS all over the internet any moment now.

>>66884646
>That's covered by their contracts

not necessary and the contracts may have been terminated as a whole, unlike a severable contract ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severable_contract )
the content produced by the talents like streams and songs may be only licensed to Cover for a limited time (eg: the duration of the contract or a specific duration in time).
we all remember how Rockstars had to remove song from GTA games once the license expired.
A solution for cover would be to simply buy the content rights so the content would become their property. But since mel wasn't that popular, it probably doesn't worth it at all.

>>66883639
NDA's are almost completely arbitrary since 99% of the talents accidentally break it while reassuring their fans that good things are coming their way, all they usually get when they go overboard is a bonk and everyone forgets about it the next minute. I bet there's some Weinstein tier shit happening there if they are so petty as to erase the existence of their talents over some mysterious info relating to their most likely criminal dealings.

Deleting someone's entire career and livelihood over arbitrary rules and hearsay is petulant and evil, they were butthurt she exposed one of their friends as a rapey creep and were waiting for the the moment to kick her out. The Yakuza 100% own Japan

>>66883523
Black company

>>66885129
Depends on their contract but that's most likely illegal
>>66884917
Coverworshipperchama, monetization can be turned off

>>66898342
t.bootlicker

>>66894434
He has made his livelihood from selling dreams to lonely suicidal salarymen with no future other than slave work into their 60's. If one of them snaps after Yagoo not only discontinued but completely deleted the internet presence of his oshi then he deserves whatever he gets. Yagoo of all people knows that hurting the feelings of mentally unstable japanese otaku is a death sentence .The day Cover does this to one of their big earners, the schizos will burn their offices and they will have no one to blame but themselves.

>>66884917
>>66885129
>>66900475
They delete the videos as a form of humiliation and shunning, pretending she never existed because of her "betrayal". They negotiate a deal after termination so that she never shit talks them under threat of defamation lawsuits and then they throw loose change after they kick her out the door.

>>66898342
Her roommate made a statement.

>>66894434
He's probably more of a figure head after the corpo went public
Rather than the dude getting stabbed, I think it's more possible for KyoAni 2.0 to happen

>>66898342
How much do Cover pay you? I want some side jobs too

>>66902156
hololive is like family.

>>66900558
>>66903602
disgusting brown people

>>66883523
money issue

>>66893830
>they called it a graduation publicly
No they didn't.

>>66883639
>it's ruthless and nips are very autistic when it comes to rules
how come heads didnt roll after the rape thing

>>66883523
unpersoning a virtual character should be treated the same as murder
boycott vtubing companies until they guarantee virtual beings their immortal rights

>>66904466
nips believe women are for raping. they only fired mel's manager when he brought shame to the company by being found out.
mel's current yab is that she's leaking the existence of the holo talent exclusive sex dungeon for share holders

>>66883523
>leave streams up
>they continue to make money
>but the contract is terminated
They can't leave them up.

>>66904139
Heh, whatever you say bootlickerchama
Keep throwing Mel under the bus just to make Cover looks good

>>66904917
Why are brownoid always liie this?

>>66904970
>I can only throw a random insult because I can't deny shit

>>66883523
because she's not needed anymore

>>66894060
That would never not be retarded. Dude really went for something he would be investigated for by aggressively being against it, it's like trying to ban guns in some US states, someone will try to find the minimal second of your life you ever went as close to a bullet as possible in order to make a pro argument.
You shouldn't try to go against your own sins while you are still commiting them and while active being like "nah, I'm not doing that".
Eventually, someone finds out.

>>66894434
Nah, he definitely doesn't feel safe, dude has to juggle trying to rat out employees who unironically want to doxx his other employees in secret, needs to keep everything as NDA safe as possible, check that the international guidelines are not being broken specially by some of his JP talents and apparently now we know he also has to watch out for Yakuza stuff?, man knows one day something will come crashing down into either himself or the office or both. If Rushia's termination didn't cause anything that's because everyone was busy trying to break Rushia's menhera even further, even her schizo gachis.
Mel's termination might not cause anything because if the Yakuza stuff is true no one will be ballsy enough to try to do anything right now against neither COVER orel out of fear of repercussions not against themselves but family members.

>>66883523
The character Yozora Mel is Cover Corp's property. They are fully within their rights to delete any reference to the character. Gura, Pekora, FuwaMoco, none of them are special. They would also be erased and forgotten if any of the voice actresses who play them got out of line.

Mel was too good for this world. Retarded but still good

>>66906485
The best kind of good

when will they delete gura channel

>>66906290
Their response included to Mel's termination was a direct threat to all their talents that if they so as mildly disagree with management then they're next in the death note. Homolive has become so powerhungry that they legitimately think they can run a corpo with no talents, talk about small dick energy. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a chat with Riku about how to properly exploit and leech of your idols.

>>66907010
nice try. it was at best a reminder to not break the nda like a dumbass.

>>66883523
what yab I miss this day (and from cover of all things)

>>66883523
They're severing their contract and all financial obligations with each other. Would you rather Cover keep profiting off her work after her termination? It's consequence of how the businesses work overall

>>66905240
if you are actually offended by being called brown then that anon is onto something

>>66899987
This but without a shred of irony.

>>66907010
lolz

>>66883523
Monetization

>>66883523
Besides the termination protocol, since the contents regard one of their IPs they just terminated, I think it'd be understood as they ejected their actor but still reap the fruits of their work. So they're making more money and publicity off someone whom they fired, which I don't think is alright ethically, legally and morally speaking.

>>66883853
Do you think a graduated talent (Coco, Sana) still keeps that cut even after they're gone? I don't think that's about the talent here.

The real reason was that she wasn't bringing in enough money. That's it.
The whole leaked info bit is a cover up to save face and throw her under the bus.

I guess its less of a time to mope, and more of a time to download vids before deletion

>>66883523
black company

>>66883717
Japanese companies are like that - extremely literal, no flexibility. All the company loyalty shit is BS if they don't like you. The mutual decision to part is a typical corporation's idea of doing you a favor.

You want the benefits of working for a corpo, you better be good at licking boots.

>>66893830
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1496727230319595522

>>66899987
>The Yakuza 100% own Japan
Yeah, no shit. Almost every corpo is a subsidiary of another big corpo, which in turn is a subsidiary of an even bigger corpo run by some ancient clan. Wait a minute...

>>66883523
Because of legal reasons, such as revenue gained from vod watches. As they had to terminate her contract prematurely they aren't able to write a contract up so that the revenue has a clear place where it goes. Coco and Sana still have their vods up because they graduated properly and most likely gave cover all the profits from the vods in the future. They also wouldn't be able to draft a contract with Mel as she just broke her previous one.

>>66911354
It must be the Yukihana family
Shits started going wrong after the grandchild of the current head joined

there's a new hololive angel in heaven tonight
a reminder to all the other girls
you are a slave
fall in line or be terminated like her

>>66883523
She broke her contract by leaking NDA to a third party

>>66884160
>black company is when you fire someone for breaking their contract
Nijiniggers, everyone

>>66885621
Japanese hobby. Don’t like it then watch something else

>>66893260
The (((western world))) needs to mind it’s own business

>>66883523
They just need to, okay? Stop asking questions.

>>66911354
I love neofeudalism

>>66899987
Japanese company, japanese hobby, otaku website

>>66897405
Rushia broke idol culture by engaging in GFE despite having a boyfriend. She betrayed her fans and absolutely could not be “salvaged.” I agree the Kiryu Coco situation was handled horrendously, but at least Cover pulled out of china as a result

>>66910599
>You want the benefits of working for a corpo, you better be good at licking boots.
That’s literally the concept of employment you absolutely fucking troglodyte
You work for the company, not the other way around
The idea that your employer owes you anything when you voluntarily choose to work for them is an entirely western concept.
You choose to serve someone in exchange for monetary compensation and you agree to their terms. If you break the terms you agreed to, too bad, get the fuck out.
How is this hard to understand?

>>66899987
>NDA's are almost completely arbitrary since 99% of the talents accidentally break it
Objectively false
> I bet there's some Weinstein tier shit happening there
Baseless accusation
> Deleting someone's entire career and livelihood over arbitrary rules and hearsay is petulant and evil
Don’t break NDA, simple as
> they were butthurt she exposed one of their friends as a rapey creep
Another baseless accusation
> The Yakuza 100% own Japan
Again, objectively false (and also anti-Japanese racism)
Is this really the best anti-Hololive shills can come up with? Resorting to blatant slander? It’s pathetic, really. I hope Cover sues you for defamation

>>66899987
>Deleting someone's entire career and livelihood over arbitrary rules and hearsay is petulant and evil
Are you one of those retards who sign up on a social media without reading their terms of service and then bitch about getting banned for breaking the terms of service you agreed to?

>>66883523
because she didn't negotiate to keep them.

>>66904588
Mel wasn’t raped by Cover staff, that’s blatant slander. Btw reminder that Japan is proven to be safer for women than the west

>>66883523
Nihonjin autism

>>66904917
Commie faggot pls rope yourself

>>66916000
Based

>unironic commies itt
this board is so fucked

>>66883523
>>66902156
>They delete the videos as a form of humiliation and shunning, pretending she never existed because of her "betrayal"
It's literally this. It's the true mark of an Eastern, Asiatic despotic culture.

>>66916580
>Amerishart comparing a pseudo-idol getting fired to a mass-murderer bolshevik dictator
End your life

>>66899987
What if the situation involved with other hololive employees and it's not up to Cover alone to give the verdict?

>>66889380
This tbqh
I hope this is the start of the purge

>>66916689
>a mass-murderer bolshevik dictator
Mel wasn't that bad, anon...

>>66916042
Coco's situation was handled badly, and its definetely management's fault, but i think the final outcome would've been the same regardless of what they did. Chinks harrassment of coco was insane, it was inevitable that she'd get sick of it eventually of course, doing stuff like accidently modding antis is completely fucking stupid and never should've happened but it's just classic cover incompetence shit rather than straight up maliciousness

Just imagine if this could happen to musicians or writers. Piss off your publisher and they will obliterate your discography or bibliography.

>>66916689
Yeah Cover has a long way to go before they're anywhere near that level of based

>>66916689
stay mad, censor-kun

>>66916689
>mass-murderer from decades ago
None of my business
>A member of a hobby I enjoy
My business

>>66883523
Sakana from phase already did a very good explanation for deleting everything about the talent, something about being unfair to keep it up and the corp keep gaining money from it (adsense, merch, voicepacks, etc...) While the person who did the content receives nothing

Movie actors are paid royalties even if they cut connections with the studio or go work for another one. It's not a vtuber standard, but probably should be.

>>66920908
They are literally just exploiting VTubers because those are a bunch of impressionable super sweet, starry-eyed girls in their 20s, so they can manage to pull off shark-tier contracts like this.

>>66922776
>in their 20s
lmao

>>66922880
The starry eyed ones are in their 20s, the ones escaping black companies are 30+.

the entire sudden mel termination got me depressed, it still freaking hurt. i love her and i wish her the best, i hope we'd see her again in a much happier situation.

>>66922776
well the vtubers should unionize and force things to be fixed! and they'd all be replaced by the thousands of hungry indies.

>>66916258
Japan drastically under reports rape, pedophiles, molestation and so on. If you are a women and even try to go to the police, they won't help or report it most of the time and the women gets shamed for being a victim of rape. Same goes for children. Alot of victims are not taken seriously or are hurt for trying to bring thier case to light.

>>66916258
>Mel wasn’t raped by Cover staff
Yeah, she was just sexually harassed by her manager which Cover did fucking nothing to stop.

>>66916258
>>66923226
also
>coming from the country that has to have trains for females only because there's so much molestation
lol

>>66923381
>retard is comparing Pedophilia to train molesters
Dumbass

>>66923500
Don't worry, they have those too in spades.
You can just browse through hentai tags to get a glimpse of who's being catered to because there has to be an audience for it all.

>>66923599
Now you are legit just baiting. Boring. If you browse /vt/ there is no way you don't understand cunniseurs aren't the type to actually diddle IRL kids. Not least because they did, they couldn't get cunny gacha in prison anymore.
Not even a cunniseur myself.

>>66923226
>Japan drastically under reports rape, pedophiles, molestation and so on
Let me guess, this information was revealed to you in a dream?
>>66923263
Source?
>>66923381
The vast majority of trains in Japan are unisex

>>66919159
Can’t tell if you’re joking or admitting to being a tankie

Been out of the loop, how did Mel break NDA anyway? What specific piece of info?

>>66925163
Nobody knows. Anyone that says they know are lying.

>>66925205
In that case I can certainly see why the situation is considered sus.

>>66919750
except it doesn't make sense since Coco's channel is still available. It's a form of punishment, nothing else

she was obligated to give ME 50 kisses and didn't. that's why she was executed.

>>66923226
The west is filled with migrant niggers who sexually assault women as well as whities raping their own family members. You literally voted a child predator like Biden in the office, and allow trannies to groom minors under the law. Meanwhile in Japan women and children can walk at night without the fear of being assaulted.

>>66923849
You sound like a projecting child predator and you should kill yourself.

>>66916152
Which is why you should only do the bare minimum to keep your job.

>>66925289
graduation vs termination

Yagoo told Mel that if she wanted to keep her job she had to suck his dick. She said fuck off she only munches rug, so she was fired.

>>66925235
As far as I'm aware, there are only two items that contain any real info, one pre-screened final post from Mel apologizing for the termination, and another from her RM announcing a break and claiming that she had a menhera moment because her pet died and she leaked info to someone she thought she could trust. People are spinning up all kinds of rrats from these two documents, though nobody actually watches Mel, so there's less enthusiasm about it than Rushia's termination.

>>66916258
>bongoloids represented with massive noses
kek

>>66894060
>>66905753
I am not surprised, I've noticed that this seems to be common pattern. Whenever you see a politician who is unusually adamant that something should be banned (or if it already is, that it needs harsher punishments), or even just some sjw on twitter who is strangely quick to accuse everyone of being a nazi/racist/pedophile... chances are they are projecting

>>66893830
You mixed up your rrats anon. Rushia was terminated very explicitly. "Terminated but called graduation publicly" is what anons say about Magni and Vesper, despite the fact that both of them had given off signs that they wanted out and that the timing matched the 1 year minimum contract length specified in the auditions

>>66884646
>>66885129

A lot of the content, like covers, MVs, orisongs is paid for by the talent's own pockets. In a normal company the people you hire don't pay the expenses themselves, the company pays for the office, laptop, materials etc. Would it be fair for Cover to profit from an MV that a Holomem paid for with their own money?

>>66931944
>Would it be fair for Cover to profit from an MV that a Holomem paid for with their own money?
Is it fair for them to purge it?

>>66883523
Sad, I know she wasn't the most popular holo but I always had a sweet spot for her. I know she will probably be alright but I'll miss her. RIP MelMel.

>>66931944
Anyone plan to address the fact that they could literally click a few buttons and turn off monetization?

>>66883523
Maybe a clause in the contract? They might not retain rights to use their likeness in terms of voice in the event of immediate termination.

It would be lost profitable for Cover to keep it up and keep selling merch.

>>66936476
Most profitable, not lost

I always just assumed using their voice is akin to using their likeness and therefore having it represent the company is just considered in bad taste in terms of ambiguous legality.

It's really weird seeing the stuff people come up with this thing when Mel herself was like "Yea I fucked up guys and we came to a mutual agreement I would leave." No, scream, crying, threats or lawyers like Rushia, she just professionally left saying she knew she fucked up.

>>66939034
what makes you think that she would ever cause any kind of shit when she didnt even make a big stink over attempted rape?

>>66939034
the fact there's no visible drama in the amicable ending of a professional business relationship is breaking peoples fucking minds

>>66942424
>peoples
third worlders and nijisanji fans are not people

>>66883523
I'm going to guess she wasn't happy about cover letting the chink market back in after the harassment her friend coco received.

>>66883523
who

>>66939034
>No, scream, crying, threats or lawyers like Rushia
she never did this against Cover you fucking threadreader