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66834779 No.66834779 [Reply] [Original]

Okay go home antis and drama-sisters

>> No.66834887

If there wasn't any drama behind the scenes, she would have a proper graduation. I swear, you morons are dumber than Mel

>> No.66834978

>>66834887
NDA breach is NDA breach you jobless retard

>> No.66834993

>>66834887
That's an action and reaction. No drama.

>> No.66835090 [DELETED] 

>>66834779
This shuts down any attempt of Nijiniggers trying to call Hololive a "Black Company"

>> No.66835119

>>66834779
Ah, yes. Management has never use talent account to tweet for them.

>> No.66835161

>>66834887
NDA breach still warrants a termination, not a graduation.

>> No.66835167

>>66834779
Reincarnation Speculation sisters RISE

>> No.66835216

>>66834978
Everyone break NDAs in some way, they're not firing her for that alone. Companies like to think everything that happens at work is confidential, but employees spend a quarter of their life in the office and want to talk about it

>> No.66835263

With all these graduations and terminations, vshojo stocks are rising!

>> No.66835305

>you're fired
>ok lol
nice mutual agreement

>> No.66835310

>>66834887
Matsuri has done so much dumb shit (one of which had the cops and cover management Involved) as her roommate that every time they fire someone I'm certain they deserved it.

>> No.66835326

>>66835216
You don't "talk" about your company's info to fucking 3rd party. That's job ethics 101 and you'd understand if you have one

>> No.66835331

>>66834779
Yeah, I'm sure Vesper and Magni were "mutual" too. You holodrones are so retarded, your company is just as black as all the other corps.

>> No.66835335

>>66834779
Will she stay in the Alumni list...

>> No.66835401

>>66834779
>no translation
>expecting anybody on /vt/ to know what it says
lol
lmao even

>> No.66835424

>>66835090
Nobody said this, they really do live rent free huh

>> No.66835428

>>66835331
that was a graduation,sis

>> No.66835470

>>66835310
Hard to argue against this

>> No.66835485

>>66835424
>Nobody said this
6 threads right now

>> No.66835526

>>66835310
So obviously it's way worse than what Matsuri did.

>> No.66835535

>>66835326
Cover has no IP worth firing a member for, this is not about a fucking NDA.

>> No.66835538

>>66835401
It basically doesn't say anything. It's her apologizing and rambling about how much the kapumin and holomems mean to her and how sorry she is, and there's a bit at the top about how this is a message from her being relayed from management (presumably she's already locked out of the Twitter account).

>> No.66835592

>>66834779
aaaah so it's a honorable termination. you heard the man pack it up and go home

>> No.66835629

>meanwhile Pomu also has a proper graduation
WHAT DID NIJI DO TO HER, HOLOBROS?!?!?!?

>> No.66835630

>>66835535
You don't understand Hololive is Cover's IP and the Unity shop "game"

>> No.66835642

>>66835326
are you retarded anon? Or more likely a kid with no work experience
Me, my friends and their friends always talk about workplae drama with other people. Everyone does this shit. If they were only mad at that it would be an infracation.

>> No.66835655

>>66835592
>honorable
>termination
There's nothing honorable in getting fired

>> No.66835702

>>66835305
showing off your 2 digit iq here is not funny

>> No.66835758

https://x.com/yozoramel/status/1747179606283812974
Dear all

I am so sorry for the anxiety and discomfort and inconvenience I have caused to so many people this time around.

I deeply regret my thoughtless behavior.

I have already discussed and resolved the matter with Cover's management.
The management has kindly allowed me to publish this letter.

I am very sorry that I have to leave in such a way to everyone who has helped me.

I had a dream that I wanted to achieve with all the Kapumin. I am sorry that I could not keep our promise.
But the memories of the Kapumin and the Holomem will not disappear. I will never forget them forever.
I will always watch over you all. I will always love you.
Thank you for all of your support so far.

And I am truly sorry.

From Mel Yozora

>> No.66835761

>>66835630
Even a holo as unpopular as Mel is probably worth more than the source code for all their side projects.

>> No.66835762

>>66835305
Rushia...

>> No.66835788

>>66835535
Did you forget that they killed their biggest cash cow because of NDA? Mel is pennies compared to her.

>> No.66835849

>>66834779
Is this how it's going to be now?
Every year a Holo will leave for breaking NDA?

>> No.66835879

>>66835331
you are so desperate today nijinogs

>> No.66835900

>>66835788
And the people in those threads are the same retards here. Do you really think an NDA is the only reason they fired Rushia? Holos leak insider info all the time.

>> No.66835933

>>66835655
There's honor in accepting the consequences for your actions gracefully instead of doing what Rushia did
Mel performed seppuku as opposed to Rushia's execution

>> No.66835972
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>>66835758

>> No.66836000

>>66835642
Workplace drama isn't the same as a NDA breach, unless you're giving details about stuff under NDA while gossiping, in which case you should get shitcanned for being a retard. Just because you and the people around you don't have any integrity doesn't mean others don't as well. Hell, you've probably never handled info worth shit if you're taking a NDA that lightly.

>> No.66836008

>>66835900
>Holos leak insider info all the time.
Ah is your uncle John Nintendo? I might know him.

>> No.66836020

>>66835331
They absolutely were mutual, they wouldn't be on the holostars website if it wasn't.

>> No.66836076

>>66836000
Everything you do in the office is under NDA. Companies do not take action unless it's serious.

>> No.66836083

>>66836020
Yeah, they agreed they won't be working for a shitty company anymore.

>> No.66836094

>>66835900
>Holos leak insider info all the time.
*citation needed

>> No.66836115

>>66835900
We know exactly why they fired Rushia though, it started with the conduct breach in grooming her paypigs in DMs that got her suspended, then she went full retard and started leaking shit to a dramatuber to clear her name instead of just waiting it out which is what turned her suspension into an expulsion.

>> No.66836119

>mutually agreed termination
Holy cope. You either got fired or you quit, there’s no in between.

>> No.66836120

>>66835933
Pretty much this. Lets not allow the scum to fan the flames of drama or blame other Holos while we are here either. Mel was a sweetheart even if she was a little on the dumb side and will be missed

>> No.66836167

>>66835642
workplace drama = leaking company info

yeah this anon is dumb

>> No.66836257

>>66835758
So management totally wrote this and said it was her, right? Black company shit.

>> No.66836260

>>66836094
NDAs are incredibly broad. Talking about their practice sessions could count as a breach.

>> No.66836294

>>66836119
Here is an easy comparison for you sisters
> Cover fired her for a reason she agreed = mutual
> Anycolor fired Zaion and she made a 5+ page document breaking down the "accusation" = non-mutual

>> No.66836313

>>66835642
Hmm let me guess, Philippines
Constitution worker

>> No.66836328

Can someone explain to me how you mutually agree to get fired from a company?

>> No.66836342

>>66836115
Exactly, the NDA is just one of many reasons.

>> No.66836357

>>66836076
I don't know what NDAs you've been signing but every NDA I've signed has been pretty specific about what is under NDA. Your coworkers having an argument over someone eating someone else's lunch is not under NDA.

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>>66835642
look at this retard this is an entartainment company

>> No.66836490

>>66836167
Try actually reading an NDA for once. Revealing almost anything you do in the office counts as a breach.

>> No.66836518

>>66835900
>the dramatuber she had been leaking shit to published all the stuff she had leaked to him including exchanges withbher manager
>Mikeneko herself admitted sveral months later of sharing screenshots of her conversations with her manager to the dramatuber
>"Do you really think an NDA is the only reason they fired Rushia?"

>> No.66836631

>>66836260
except not at all since we learned from the Rushia situation that what gets you canned for NDA breaching under Cover is leaking info personal info about there assets and the personal info about the talents themselves (see Flare)

>> No.66836632

>>66834779
>doesn't have a choice either way
>"""""mutual"""""

>> No.66836635

>>66836328
You agree that what you did was worthy of getting the boot

>> No.66836647

>>66836357
Anything you work on during company time belongs to your employer. Information about anything you work on that isn't publicly revealed counts as confidential information. People gossip about more than just lunch.

>> No.66836737

>>66834779
Wouldn’t that be a normal graduation and not a termination?

>> No.66836741

>>66835849
>Fail the yearly NDA leak check-up
>get terminated
simple as

>> No.66836800

>>66836518
>>66836631
The NDA isn't the only reason why they fired her, it's because of her conduct and the malice involved. People are pretending that Mel accidentally leaked info with good intentions and got canned for it

>> No.66836886

>>66836119
Nigger, Rushia claimed that she was being bullied out out the company by some unnamed senpai and months later put up a statement saying that yeah, she sent screenshots of her conversations with her manager to the dramatuber but she doesn't agree that was an NDA breach, and Zaion put out that tl;dr Google doc refuting Niji's claims

>> No.66836917
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>>66834779
>mutual

>> No.66836950

>>66835642
A cowoker of mine git fired because his wife posted about "workplace drama" he had on facebook. Which included details about prototypes.
It's not very hard to just NOT talk about these things. Especially to women.

>> No.66836959

>>66836076
>>66836167
>>66836313

Yes it can be just normal drama, but also everyone leaks standard stuff like potential new products etc. The only time I saw someone fired was when they were vague posting about new coins being offerred on linkedin like a retard lol

>> No.66836992

>>66836647
Yes, and those people have no integrity and could be rightfully fired dumbdumb.

>> No.66837073

Give me the rat. Why was she fired?

>> No.66837091

>>66836992
>mutually agrees to leave job that gives a doctor's pay without any work

>> No.66837155

>>66836119
If cover offered her a 6 month suspension as punishment and she rejected it and they wouldn't budge that's basically mutual.

>> No.66837197

>>66836635
As opposed to what? You don't agree to get fired and they let you stay? What fantasy land is this?

>> No.66837244

>>66837155
It's not mutual if she doesn't get a graduation. The graduation is pretty much the biggest payday for any vtuber.

>> No.66837328

>>66837197
File for wrongful termination.

>> No.66837347
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66837347

>>66834779

>> No.66837376

>>66836737
Graduation is when you get to keep your archives. MagVes and Sana got their archives, but Mel's channel will be gone in a month from now

She got Rushia'd, but in addition, she was allowed to say her final goodbyes, which Rushia couldn't do

>> No.66837387

>>66836992
I'm not arguing that they can't be fired for it, I'm saying that companies will not fire someone unless they actually leak something of consequence. What's legally permissible and what actually happens in reality are two different things.

>> No.66837419

>>66835642
Yeah but in Hololive breaking the NDA might result in your coworkers getting stalked and raped

>> No.66837518

>>66836328
>Hey Mel, did you run her mouth to some dumb eceleb on VCR about [insert some thing she wasn't supposed to say in public]
>"yeah, my bad"
>you understand this is grounds for termination, right?
>"yeah, I fucked up"
>ok, bye

>> No.66837622

>>66837518
Where did she admit the first part?

>> No.66837624

>>66836328
If you don't agree you can always set the things straight in the law.

>> No.66837663
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66837663

are japs saying it is because of the stalking incident? She talked about her experince with some other vtubers which brought shame to cover

>> No.66837692

>>66837622
If was mutually accordance, that means she agreed.

>> No.66837712

>>66837347
>they have given me permission
LMAO

>> No.66837741

>>66837663
Why the fuck would she get terminated now for something that happened four years ago?

>> No.66837818

Rushia termination
>Foobs flare cold as ice
>Everyone except maybe gen 3 reaction were you got what you deserve
Mel termination
>Yagoo a chan nodoka bid her farewell
>able to release her farewell statement
>foobs cired
At least we know which one is worse

>> No.66837843

>>66837712
Yes because she no longer has access to any of the accounts?

>> No.66837860

>>66837518
if it's that damning then it's probably something really bad regarding work, or is cover terminating people over their dog shit ark clone that's gonna flop.

>> No.66837880

>>66837663
The stalking incident was settled in court years ago and Mel's lawyer got Cover to publicly admit that they fucked up in their handling of it

>> No.66837933

>>66837880
>>66837741
Essentially they've held a grudge at being made to report that, so they've been looking at any reason that can justify giving the boot.

>> No.66837955

>>66837818
Not necessarily, they might just be treating Mel with more respect because of her seniority.

>> No.66838006

>>66837933
>it came to me in a dream

>> No.66838016

>>66837933
>Essentially they've >headcanon<

>> No.66838053

>>66837818
rushia was also in trouble and already being dramatic for like a whole week before getting fired for being a dumb bitch. mel getting fired was sprung on them like an hour before they were expected to make a statement

>> No.66838108

Give me the ratttttt

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>>66835758
God fucking dammit

>> No.66838209

>>66837933
>I know how to read bait threads and I never watch the streams of the person I'm shitting on
Don't worry, everybody does it

>> No.66838377

>>66838108
Retaliation for making them look bad in the SA scandal in 2020

>> No.66838390
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>>66834779
Consider the words of someone with first hand experience.

>> No.66838684

>>66838390
literally who

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>>66838684

>> No.66838884

>>66835428
It’s only a graduation if the talent wants to leave and management wants them to stay. Cover were fucking eager to take a hammer to those cunt’s skulls

>> No.66839016

>>66835331
That was a graduation b cause their channels are still up. Mel will not have that.

>> No.66839122

>>66835788
Coco?

>> No.66839170

It's always funny seeing people talk about NDA
>I don't care about NDA so why does Cover?
>In my job NDA doesn't matter so why does Cover care about NDA?
>If Cover doesn't release the NDA information leaked to 3rd parties then they are a black company
>We, the public, will decide if the information leaked is worthy of the termination
Outside the vtuber sphere everyone knows NDA's are serious and you don't reveal info the company doesn't want you to. Inside the vtuber sphere NDAs, once signed, have no weight and can be ignored because the talents are females playing an anime character.
Has this type of behavior happened outside the vtuber sphere before?

>> No.66839232

>>66837197
Opposed to you dont agree and you still get booted, but you go to court against a megacorp in a case that you're most likely to lose anywy, if you're just not smart enough to take the L and dodge the reputation of being litigious, which closes you more doors in the future although breaking NDA's is a nuclear sized no-no already

>> No.66839245

>>66839170
>Has this type of behavior happened outside the vtuber sphere before?
English voice actors, mainly.

>> No.66839550

>>66838390
actually true, most companies dont just jump to this. but it's always an option.

I dunno, mel's vibes for me have always been that she's along for the easy ride. She never seemed to want to do more, and asking more of her probably was a, nah, ill just leave.

>> No.66839839

>>66838053
Anon
Gen1 already knew about it night before, mori probaby got told by it by mgmt in the morning because she moved the ac6 collab way ahead

>> No.66839880

>>66837933
>she got terminated because of a grudge that's been building up for 4 years
That's not the reason retard but you can bet some oldheads in the company are secretly glad she's gone.

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>>66838390
Then what was the punishment that being fired was the better option? I hate copro culture

>> No.66839916

>>66839170
every entertainment industry, especially amerimutt shit, is like that because terminally online troons always defend their woke comrades.

anyway, according to the announcement in japanese, she leaked multiple things 機密情報(confidential info)や,
やり取り(communications/contacts), not one. its a goddamn shame but its pretty hard to say shes innocent.

>> No.66840005

I never cared about Mel too much but....no...still don't care

>> No.66840239

>>66839884
I dunno, lets say you dont like your job much and youre slacking, boss tells you, stop slacking or quit? I dont see the issue here.

>> No.66840304

>>66838884
keep telling yourself that

>> No.66840456

>>66837818
>seniority
bro not a single post sankisei gen member wrote any regret or appreciation for her time in hololive
I was terminally online during rushia's termination day. Everyone except marine was treating her termination like "shikataganai, a sudden change in weather"

>> No.66840505

>>66834779
It's kotoka that fucking snake

>> No.66840572

>>66835642
Are you a fucking idiot? Workplace drama =/= breach of contract. Trade secrets are no joke.

>> No.66840573

>>66834978
but is it always more profitable to enforce it? what if it had been Pekora?

>> No.66840585

>>66840456
Pekora....

>> No.66840752

>>66840456
>Everyone except marine was treating her termination like "shikataganai, a sudden change in weather"
this isnt true at all. you are an eop or only watch gen3

>> No.66840788

>>66835758
Gattsu.mp3

>> No.66840949

Why do people get so worked up while defending Cover
Like dude chill I‘m sure Yagoo can still afford ro buy another porsche this month

>> No.66841015

>>66840572
nah they wouldn't fire her over leaking "did you know holoearth is using python?" In fact its the opposite, trade secrets aren't a big deal assuming its not code vulnerabilities. This isn't the 60s anymore lol

they likely fired her because she leaked some shit concerning another member and that member does not want to work in the same company as her anymore

>> No.66841024

>>66834779
lmao yeah sure, it's always "mutually agreed" when it comes to holo, this sounds as truthful as the "family vacations" on nijisanji, but I have to admit that cover is way smarter than anykara for taking proper measures to reduce the drama instead of making it worse

>> No.66841083

>>66841024
mel has her own last statement unlike rushia. check it before sperging out

>> No.66841106

>>66834779
who?

>> No.66841183

>>66841083
She had the choice to either write a positive statement or none at all, this hardly means that the termination was somehow amicable.

>> No.66841195

Mel leaked that Aqua has a boyfriend (me) to some rando in the VCR server

>> No.66841288

>>66841183
you are no different from a conspiracy theorist. you do realise you are saying mel is also a liar to her fans. read her statement, eop-nigger

>> No.66841378

>>66841288
>you do realise you are saying mel is also a liar to her fans
Yes obviously

>> No.66841442

>>66841378
so everyone is a liar except for you. typical self absorbed conspiracy theorist. a fucking schizo.

>> No.66841471

>>66840752
t.coping fankek

>> No.66841575

>>66834779
Since Mel's been terminated and not graduated, that means that this letter is the final thing she'll ever write as Mel? Damn, that's pretty fucking sad.

>> No.66841588

>>66834779
>mutually agreed
Its what you say when you get shitcanned.
She was planning her stuff just yesterday, she had no idea.
If they accused her of something then she probably dosnt want to get sued.

>> No.66841606

>>66841442
Ok lol

>> No.66841626

>>66834779
I can only imagine the schizo meltdown Rushia would have had if Cover made her write a farewell letter like this.

>> No.66841692

>>66841083
And coco had a whole show put up for her, if you're being fired and you're not mentally ill is for the best to play along and leave with a good image

>> No.66841719

>>66839884
Cover would probably request she not talk to the people she was leaking too, checks on her phone and discord to make sure she's not leaking anymore shit etc.

>> No.66841780

>kotoka asks what the $ split is in hololive
>airhead meru reveals it
>kotoka tells mane-san to give her a raise
>niji mgmt talk to holo mgmt
>"minna-san, za tarent know.... we massu shut ittu down! we mussu engageru terminashun!"
Just as the Protocols of the Elders of Zaion foretold...

>> No.66841879

>>66841780
Not likely to be true but good rrat

>> No.66841917

>>66835535
I didn't know we have someone here who knows every little thing that Cover owns. Retard.

>> No.66841923

>>66841780
I shall copy this to paste on the pinned thread

>> No.66841996

>>66841588
>Its what you say when you get shitcanned.
Yeah it's probably they found grounds to fire her, told her about it, and out of respect for the length of her tenure in the company and her being apart of Gen 1, called it a "mutual agreement" so that she could keep her dignity publicly.
I mean, look at Rushia, she became a laughing stock (at least here) when she got canned. Mel was just fade into obscurity

>> No.66842001

>>66839884
Rape correction by a fat ugly oji-san (me)

>> No.66842066

>all these nijiniggers shitting on Cover
Don‘t you have some whores to watch

>> No.66842093

>>66841996
To be fair she wasn't even going to be fired or anything at first, rushia was just too mentally ill to strike any deal

>> No.66842113

>>66834779
Let this be a lesson fellas: a woman will talk and divulge your secrets. It's in their nature.

>> No.66842282

>>66842093
And that mental illness along with who she leaked the info too probably lost whatever goodwill she had with Cover upper management. So raw dog termination statement instead of "mutual agreement" statement.

>> No.66842424

>>66841288
>mel is also a liar to her fans
lmao dip this dipshit really think this was a gotcha when we are talking about idols?? lieing is part of the appeal

>> No.66842497

>>66841015
> "did you know holoearth is using python?"
You consider this a trade secret? It's not. She probably unknowingly leaked something that can lead to minor stock manipulation.

>> No.66842528

>>66834978
Then Gura should be fired for her wdsdib...

>> No.66842579

>>66841575
Her own fault

>> No.66842622

What kind of information was she leaking?
Compared to Rushia, this was instant.

>> No.66842653

>>66834779
Holy retarded, if your job asks for you to get out of course you would accept, the only alternative is going to the court house

>> No.66842673

How do we know this was planned? if she debbuts in Vshojo shortly.

>> No.66842717

>>66839170
These people never have a serious job in their life.
NDA is serious shit, i remember i was fired because i bring my friends to my office on a night shift.
It's all about trust, the company can't just trust 3rd party with any information.

>> No.66842725

>>66842622
Name of the guy who tried to rape her

>> No.66842744

>>66842424
>lieing
ESLnigger watches too much Oshi no ko

>> No.66842753

>>66842673
Meds.

>> No.66842868

COVER COCK SUCKERS <3

Protect the COMPANY!!!1!!

>> No.66842873

>>66842622
I think she's been doing this kind of stuff for a long time.
I genuinely believe that mel accidentally leaks info with no ill intend.
Yeah, i believe she's that stupid.

>> No.66842888

>>66842497
0 percent chance that is the case.
If it was something minor that was an accident you would not fire someone. its not a bunch of robots making the decision. a human

you would only get fired for breaking NDA for 3 reasons
1) she habitually did it after being told not too
2) info hurt another member/staff which led to broken down relationships
3) maybe she did leak trade secret and a large shareholder was mad and demanded accountability. But that is almost always a supervisor, not the talent. and it would be public so zero perent chance unless it comes out in the next day

Again likely it is number 2, or maybe number 1

>> No.66842963

>>66842888
Thing is... WHO snitched???? we have video proof on rushia's case, but on mel's? nothing, zero, nada, who the fuck snitched?

>> No.66843019

>>66842868
Who gives a shit about the company, I just despise whores, and coincidentally all the ones that got fired are whores
Only Aloe isn't but she got out because of nijinigs and not because of NDA
Wake me up when Miko or Pekora receives that treatment

>> No.66843047

>>66837818
>Yagoo a chan nodoka bid her farewell
japs are backstabbing snakes what a surprise

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>>66842963

>> No.66843102

>>66843019
>Whore are the one that gets fired because the company says soo..

Ride that company dick yeeehaaawww

>> No.66843108

>>66839884
the rape dungeon

>> No.66843195

>>66835326
Speak for yourself

>> No.66843201

>>66843057
Of fucking course.

>> No.66843345

>>66839884
It's more that the Japanese have created this job culture where the if the manager/boss tries wants to fire somebody thry try to make their employee's work and conditions worse and worse in order to make them want to quit. This way it looks better on the boss, fucking somehow.

>> No.66843500

>>66835642
Burger flipper detected. Come back when you get a real corporate job. I've seen entire production floors, with hundreds of employees, terminated for anonymous breach of nda. Multinational with teens of thousands of employees, so it's bound to happen once every couple years.

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>>66835758
pain adds up. one day my oshi will be gone too.

>> No.66843661 [DELETED] 

>haha nijifags always turn on their livers and start sucking off the company whenever something happens
>wait cover fired mel?
>MAYBE THAT HOMOCOLLABING BITCH SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN LEAKING INFORMATION TO DRAMATUBERS?? GOOD RIDDANCE WHORE
yikes!

>> No.66843745

>>66843661
Not the same situationa t all retard

>> No.66843778

>>66843345
You're thinking of Oidashibeya, which is what happened to Coco and the idea is to make them resign.
This is Mel still getting fired,
So what is the alternative of her staying that's worse than being fired?

>> No.66843792

>>66843661
Cover Cock suckers are delusional

>> No.66843899

>>66843102
>I'm blind
You can see they're whores way before they got fired, Ollie is hated since forever and you'd say I'm ridding the company if I say she's a whore when she graduates

>> No.66843957

>>66835758
VCR was a mistake
the worst part is botan took part on it as well...

>> No.66843993

>>66843661
Mel has been treated like a bitch since she talked with that holostar fag, it's been months while nijis "supports" the members untill the company says otherwise, it's completely different
If a loved holomem gets fired you can bet people will shit on cover for weeks or months

>> No.66843995

>>66843661
Kys

>> No.66844036

>>66843899
>Whore this whore that
You Sound like and Incel lmao neck yourself faggot

>> No.66844098

>>66843661
Everyone reasonable has disliked Mel since she lied about being assaulted by her manager all those years ago. Her leaking thing to dramatubers and betraying everyone is to be expected.

>> No.66844158

>>66834779
>mel
>mutually
>after leaving her no other choice because of her own dumb acts
whats the rrats here? i dont think she will be dumb enough to doxx her colleagus like " oh yeah you know suisei? shes been coming to visit me often lately but she stays at XXX isnt that far?" if it is true im amazed she managed to avoid getting fired for this long.

>> No.66844175

>ger raped by manager
>nothing happens
>leak shit accidentally
>gets fired
Yagoo you fucking bastard, i hope a black marine in Okinawa rapes your ass

>> No.66844189

>>66844036
>believe whamen
>>>/r/eddit/

>> No.66844215

>>66843993
>Over a month of shadow suspension followed by graduation for two talents
>Homos
>Out of nowhere termination for "leaking internal information"
>No one liked her anyway
There's always an excuse with holofags

>> No.66844234

>>66844098
You can also say that about Suisei Yan last year or the towa yab long ago, faggot.

>> No.66844257

>>66844175
>ger raped by manager
>nothing happens
Are you implying she should've been fired for getting molested by her manager?

>> No.66844271

>>66844175
Nobody cares for your whataboutism

>> No.66844324

>>66844189
KYS faggot you will never touch a real vagina in your life

>> No.66844348

>>66842873
now that you mentioned it mel is the dumbest holo which is not a common knowledge for en viewers
shes probably as dumb as those mothers who puts their credit card infos on ransomwares

>> No.66844369

>>66844175
>>nothing happens
She went to court and win.
Faggot like you always act like a retard.

>> No.66844431

>>66840573
they already did with mikecat, and she was the top earner of hololive.

>> No.66844435

>>66844036
incels are the main demographic for vtubers you retard

why would you watch an anime girl when you could be out with real women you mongoloid.

>> No.66844524

>>66844324
>a real vagina in your life
It's 2024, redditor-kun.
The value of vagina is so low that most women you meet have loose holes.
You can't play the vagina card when vagina is cheaper than a burger.

>> No.66844559

>>66844348
Damn, How fast would you throw your other holojp under the bus if they get terminated.

>> No.66844561

>>66839232
>you go to court against a megacorp in a case that you're most likely to lose anywy
Lol no. My mom works in HR and when people say nonsense like that she's always first in line to correct them that it's just not the case. According to her, people win more than half of the cases against her company. The other half honestly deserves to lose them.
>reputation of being litigious, which closes you more doors in the future
also not fucking true lol

>> No.66844692

>>66844348
I genuinely blame the manager.
Cover need strict tard wranglers for talents like mel to avoid shit like this from happening again.

>> No.66844760

>>66834779
>I give consent to get fired

>> No.66845006
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>>66834779
When Coco left, she was the problem.
When Rushi left, she was the problem.
When Sana left, she was the problem.
When Magni left, he was the problem.
When Noir left, he was the problem.
Now that Mel has left, she is the problem.

>> No.66845137

>>66845006
It's never the company, it's always the vtuber.
Must protect the Company Honor

>> No.66845151

>>66845006
What are you talking about? Only Rushia is true. And technically Mel since she technically breached contract.

>> No.66845178

>>66845006
True is all those cases
Only a nijinigger would claim otherwise

>> No.66845293

>>66845178
You're not fooling anyone nijinigger

>> No.66845385

>>66844435
You're right but you're still not getting laid. Calling you a faggot wouldn't be fair to fags because at least there getting fuck.

>> No.66845440

>>66844036
>Thinking incel is a bad word on fucking 4chan
Go back little tranny

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>>66834978
While this is true, I always find it funny that every poster on /vt/ is an ultra giga chad who bangs every woman in existence who works in Los Angeles with a beachhouse making 250k as a banker for Goldman Sachs.

>> No.66845512

>>66844524
You must be starving then??

>> No.66845535

The truth is at the end of the day cover shills are the biggest bootlickers
If marine or gura or your oshi graduated or terminated tomorrow the majority of the fans would turn on them on a dime

>> No.66845543

>>66834779
and what happens if she doesn't agree you fucking retard?

>> No.66845549

>>66844215
But it's the true, she is a holo for more than 6 years and she doesn't have even 900k subs

>> No.66845607

>>66845440
You gonna use all the buzzwords now?
Leave something for us to use man.

>> No.66845635
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>NDA breach
>A veteran like Mel
Suuuuuuuuure bro

>> No.66845668

>>66845535
Cumbuds are mentally ill enough to at least attempt burning down cover hq or something

>> No.66845701

>>66845535
Yup, just a bunch of number fags. Probably a mass suicide will happen when the time comes.

>> No.66845700

>>66845458
>Goldman Sachs
Overrated meme company that massively underpays and overworks 98% of it's staff?

>> No.66845713

>>66844561
Thanks for the second/third hand lesson in murrican law, anon

>> No.66845747

>>66845006
>Coco
Leddit dragon
>Rushia
Good but retarded
>Sana
My back ahhhh
>Magni and Noir
Lmao
>Mel
Average gen 1 cocksucker

The only ones who were treated badly is the CN branch and Aloe, and I don't even care about them, the rest is their own fault

>> No.66845771

>>66842717
>i was fired because i bring my friends to my office on a night shift.
Bruh, I pop up to my bro's office like once a month when he has to stay late and he's the last person on the floor, been doing that for years to hang around a little and pick him up home. It's not a small company either, and they do design so they have some IP they might worry about. I think it was more about your company or your manager, maybe they didn't like you.

>> No.66845792

>>66834779
Why does every graduation immediately become just another excuse for tribalfagging? If the posters here genuinely liked vtubing as a hobby and entertainment form they wouldn't act so disrespectfully.

>> No.66845810

>>66845700
Goldman basically exists just so people can get the name on their cv and then fuck off into private equity

>> No.66845833

>>66845713
still better than whatever the fuck is going on in this thread

>> No.66845834

>>66845178
Not beating the allegations. Also fuck you.

>> No.66845862

>>66845792
Because we're already in a never ending cycle of hate, they shitposted when it was my oshi who was leaving, so now it's my turn

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>>66835758
All i feel is pain for tommorow, the present and regret of the past

Now i need to archive as much as i need to keep the memories, the fire alive

>> No.66845888

>>66845747
Ok now give me a reason for each jp members if they get terminated.
Show us how fast you can throw them under the bus to protect your company.

>> No.66845934

>>66845151
And coco had enough of being an idol, and sana wanted to chase chink bucks drawing for chink gachas
And Vesper and Magni were just huge fucking retards

>> No.66845956

Marine was just telling a ReGLOSS member a few weeks ago that no one gets fired unless they well and truly fuck up. So whatever Mel leaked well and truly qualifies as her fucking her dumbass self. Oh well tough tiddies

>> No.66846068

>>66845934
Yeah, they just weren't "problems".

>> No.66846118

>>66845792
>If the posters here genuinely liked vtubing as a hobby and entertainment form they wouldn't act so disrespectfully
Are you of those fags in youtube comments that say they love every vtuber?
I like several holos and none of them got graduated so I don't give a shit, are you going to defend every videogame because you like a few of them?

>> No.66846253

>>66845888
>Azki
Fake bitch
>Roboco
Whore
>Gen 1
Whores
>Choco
High school whore
>Shion
Depressed whore
>Ayame
Lazy whore
>Towa
Annoying whore
>Laplus
Shion 2.0

>> No.66846271

>>66839884
Serious answer, she would be liable for damages that such a leak would bring (loss of contracts, reputational damage, etc.), just getting fired and even having your former employer wish you well is probably the best outcome that could have happened

>> No.66846275

>>66842888
It was kinda option three. Not major trade secrets but a certain thing.

>> No.66846384

>>66841719
This. First time get a warning. Second time truly and completely fuck them iver, because then you’re just taking advantage of the employer and you deserve it.

>> No.66846440
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>Firing that one talent that got sexually harrased by a manager

Black company

>> No.66846593

>>66841626
rushia got the last laugh considering she just stole her hololive design back and made the hair pink

>> No.66846664

>>66846440
She lied about that

>> No.66846744

>>66846253
All of them are women soo all of them are default WHORES if I'm understanding your Incel language correctly

>> No.66846816

>>66835642
the problem is talk to friends who gonna leak the info to your employer

>> No.66846839

>>66845934
>And coco had enough of being an idol, and sana wanted to chase chink bucks drawing for chink gachas
Are they not allowed to leave and pursue other things?
No, you can't tell me they wasted their job in hololive for "worthless" shit, you and me both couldn't possible know how anything is worth to them

>> No.66846961

>>66834978
Is NDA your oshi? You NDA niggers are insufferable

>> No.66847056

>>66843778
I would thing of still getting a long suspension (like around 3 to 6 months) + paying penalities and compensation + compulsive formation + cutting ties with several peoples sound arround the minimum.

>> No.66847105

>>66846961
You must be 18+ to post on this board.

>> No.66847134

>>66836328
It means cover gave her a severance pay and she accepts not going to court or shit on the company on her RM account so as to not damage the company's image

>> No.66847164

>>66835263
Nope
Mel go a seiiyu anon

>> No.66847184

>>66834978
Not even a nijifag but when Selen breached contract by telling her viewers to reupload her MV you tribalfaggots were shitting on Niji despite that being a contract breach too.

>> No.66847332

>>66834779
>mutually agreed
>"Hey look, you fucked up. We can sue you, or you can just graduate, take your pick"
>"aight im out"

>> No.66847390

>>66847184
>would it negatively impact niji as a corpo if Selen reuploaded her MV
no

>> No.66847398

>>66847105
Hi potchama

>> No.66847489

>hololive talent breaks a rule and is justifiably terminated
>rules are rules, nothing they could do. so sad
>nijisanji talent breaks a rule and is justifiably terminated
>BLACK COMPANY, HOW DO YOU STILL SUPPORT THIS, NIJIKEKS??!!?! LMAO

>> No.66847547

>>66841626
Rushia wished she could've gotten to write a letter like this, anon. This is partly why everyone is convinced that Mel didn't do anything *too* bad / malicious, unlike the former

>> No.66847561

>>66847390
That's a different argument. You could likely say the same about Mel's graduation too. She was clearly not intentionally breaking the rules.

>> No.66847576

>>66847056
I have a feeling, that was the other option, maybe more prison time if it was insider trading.
Or accepting getting fired and all the legal problems go away.
Mel picked the latter.

>> No.66847647

>>66847489
So... that's the main reason right?
You just want to get back at hololive fans instead of discussing everything calmly

>> No.66847687

>>66835788
>their biggest cash cow
Rushia? She is not their biggest cash cow
>inb4 she's the SC queen after Coco is gone
Listen, YT took 30% from SC, so there's only 70% left for both the talent and Cover
By default, SC split is 50:50 after YT's cut, but the split can be negotiated between the talents and Cover
So whatever number you're looking at, Cover got around 35% of it or maybe lower
The biggest cash cow in Hololive is the Holo who can move the most merch and maybe attract sponsorships
I would say the top 3 Holos in terms of earning are Suisei, Marine, and Pekora
But yes, Mel is most likely pennies compared to Rushia

>> No.66847764

>>66847489
LOL, imagine defending Nijisanji.
Last time I checked, Holomems didn't keep fleeing from the sinking ship like there's no tomorrow to join Vshojo.
It's one thing to get fired, a whole different beast mass escaping the company because it constantly blocks the creative efforts of its talents.

>> No.66847925

>>66836631
That's only applicable to Rushia's case, no? I think accidentally leaking about a new project might lead to NDA as well

>> No.66848049

>>66847184
It's baffling that you can't understand the difference in gravity between that and breaching an NDA. It's like saying stealing a nugget from your friend's happy meal and breaking his leg with a pipe are the same thing.
Come on, it's not rocket science.

>> No.66848271

>>66842528
Her.....what?

>> No.66848287

>>66836357
>This nigga never shit talk about his shitty client and the client's shitty financial decision to a close friend
Heh

>> No.66848297

>>66834779
NDA breach
Last big one is GTA
Several vtuber quit either after this event
GTA VCR
SUS

>> No.66848365

>>66848271
newfag detected

>> No.66848467

>>66848297
>Matsuri hit the most amoung gen1
>Matsuris the one who pushed for VCR perms
Its obviously related to VCR

>> No.66848523

>>66839839
Someone in the sticky thread posted about Mel's last words in her last stream
Judging from the way acts, it seems like that was the case
And she said there's a meeting this morning

>> No.66848553

>>66834978
>you jobless retard

Lmao. I have been under a few contracts that had NDA clauses and most of them were weak on the legal point, to say the least. NDA clauses are powerless in the state of California, for example.

>> No.66848567

>>66847764
>It was her fault
Cover's boot must taste really good

>> No.66848568

Cover bootlickers are such losers holy shit. Their oshi can be terminated and they'd probably be like "yes, Cover-sama, my oshi was a whore all along"

>> No.66848633

I personally believe her old manager that was raping her in the past had something to do with this despite having no evidence.

>> No.66848712

>>66848633
Hr probably got promoted to a higher position and took the chance to remove any liabilities

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>>66835758
WHY DID YOU DO IT MEL

>> No.66848804

>>66848467
i'm sorry, what?

>> No.66848840

>>66848633
He still works at Cover so that‘s actually quite likely.

>> No.66848924

>>66834779
>mutually agreed to terminate her contract
Now that holofags have offically agreed that Stars has never had an actual termination what went so, so wrong at the whorehouse?

>> No.66848984

>>66835310
what are u talking about, i missed that.

>> No.66848987

>>66848924
Nigga
Niji JP is next after Zhang wipe out all EN

>> No.66849024

>>66848049
I'm no legal expert but please go on and explain how a unknown NDA breach is more significant than outright and publically rebelling against management.

>> No.66849056

>>66842888
>Mel got fired because she broke NDA
Hard to swallow, but acceptable
>Paint Mel in a bad light so Cover looks like the ultimate good guy
You're entering corpo drone territory

>> No.66849083

I swear to god I am never going to watch any corpo again when my oshi graduates. Imagine your oshi of 6 years just getting deleted out of existence without being able to say a proper goodbye.

>> No.66849142

>>66848633
yeah, it was me

>> No.66849222

>>66848757
Mel is very dumb.

>> No.66849238

>>66848987
>B-But Nijisanji!!!
Rent free

>> No.66849258

>>66847184
Those were the same retards that think breaking an nda is nothing. It was Selen's fault for then, and it's Mel's fault now.

>> No.66849285

>>66845458
The good finance jobs pay 1 million+. You can't afford a LA beach house on 250k. The guy calling other people jobless is a larping NEET.

>> No.66849316

>>66849083
That's why roommate information should be spread far and wide. Corpos might hate it because it would make it easier to leave but it's better for the fans and the talents. Cover has been targeting matome blogs for this reason but that's a losing fight.

>> No.66849376

>>66848840
He fucking what? I thought they fired his ass after the sekuhara

>> No.66849384

>>66834978
You trying to explain this to low iq anons on vt. You can’t explain anything to these troglodytes

>> No.66849429

Damn what the fuck. I was not expecting this.
Honestly, I never watched her solo streams, but I have seen her in many collabs and events and concerts etc throughout the years so seeing her get terminated like this is pretty crazy.
The fact that the majority of people here seem to not be upset, but rather definding Hololive and attacking her already is pretty upsetting too.
However, it is true that whatever she did must have been pretty bad and stupid for it to come to this. Members far more menhera then her, with more active roommates, who collab outside of Hololive more often are still with the company so for her to have fucked up and get terminated means she really fucked up bad.
Unfortinately I do think it probably is something related to her trying to get in with other e-celebs and normalfag streamers, though I don't think it was anything malicious on her part, probably just stupidity.

But this situation really just makes me remember, Hololive is a huge corporation who could literally delete my oshi from existence at any moment and I don't really like that. I can't understand how you people are happy or celebrating.

>> No.66849463

>>66844431
She was not
Stop spreading misinformation you fucking bootlicker

>> No.66849547

I wish they gave at least a vague hint as to what it was. I know they won't because lol companies but it's kind of irritating and only going to cause more issues in the short term.

>> No.66849552

>>66848553
Ok but they work in Japan

>> No.66849558

>>66840573
Eh, there's still Miko who's kind of similar to Pekora
It would be more interesting if it's someone like Suisei because there's no replacement for her

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>Niji fires someone
>HOLY SHIT TRULY THE BLACKEST OF THE BLACK CORPS, MORE LIKE KUROSANJI
>Holo fires someone
>Hmm, well it clearly says here they both agreed to it, nothing wrong here
As always holofags don't give a fuck about the talents, just the label they stream under.
Japan is a nation where cops literally coerce people into admitting guilt for shit they didn't do at times, but sure, Mel totally agreed to walk away, probably got yelled at a lot and told she was going to be sued, BUT SHE AGREED SO ITS OK.
Holofags redefine the term bootlicking, you guys deepthroat that shit till its poking out of your ass.

>> No.66849614

>>66847489
>Niji
15 graduations per year
>Holo
1 graduation per year(again, nobody gives a shit about the homos)

Hololive is pretty bad in the management side but it's light years ahead of kurosanji

>> No.66849624

>>66849222
trips of truth...

>> No.66849640

>>66849429
I don't see anyone attacking her. Reactions seems to range from blaming cover to saying it is what it is.

>> No.66849680

>>66849614
>Niji
>Streamers graduate like normal
>Hololive
>Always some weird controversy around it outside of Sana
Yea its not even remotely the same thing, Kuro corp is far worst.

>> No.66849695

>>66849606
You shouldn't get so angry at what other people of foreign entertainment countries, it's a waste of your life force.

>> No.66849774

>>66849680
Gundou...
Meiro...

>> No.66849840

>>66849316
If you don't know about your Oshis RM you don't deserve that refuge after graduation/termination, plus in Mels case it's piss easy to find anyways. Put in the leg work if you truly care

>> No.66849881

Mel wanted to be part of the hoshimatic project but got denied by suisei. In retaliation, she leaked suisei relationship with that staff dude. The usual sad story about rivalry that is so common to the entertainment industry.

>> No.66849882

>>66849680
Well, "livers" couldn't stand to stay in Niji, that's why there were so many graduations. On the other hand, most of the time, Hololive members love the group so much that the only way for a Holo member to leave the group is if she made mistake and is forced out

>> No.66849934

>>66849882
Sana...

>> No.66849937

>>66849882
>It's their fault
Delicious cover boot

>> No.66850001

>>66849083
Same, even Mel's case made me think what if this happen to my oshi
Who would have thought an OG like Mel would get terminated due to NDA breach?
Cases like these made me realized to not act like an ass because we never know what can happen to our oshi one day

>> No.66850011

>>66844158
She wanted to end her contract early, didn't want no graduation or long farwell, she wanted to leave immediately, she didn't care if it was labeled as termination.

Flawed rrat but plausible

>> No.66850143

>>66850011
holy shit you can't be real

>> No.66850157

>>66835326
literally everyone that has a job talks about their job to friends and family. Someone ratted her out.

>> No.66850185

>>66849640
Most of the posts regarding the topic on this board right now are bootlickers saying she is a whore who deserved it and acting like legal experts because they know what an NDA is even though they are all NEETs.

>> No.66850528

>>66835761
exactly. no sponsorship or concert is going to make them more than the infinite cash cow of one of these girls. cover needs to either get the stick out of their ass or rewrite the NDA to not be so brutal.

>> No.66850547

>>66850185
You forgot about
>If you don't agree Cover was right about this one then you're a nijifaggot

>> No.66850549

So, she goes from Hololive to VShojo or Nijisanji?
All three are black companies after all.

>> No.66850662

>>66850549
Vshojo doesn't hold your career hostage.

>> No.66850669

>>66850549
I'm pretty sure at this point both cover and anykara have policies in place to stop their talents from joining the rival, so it's vshojo or bust

>> No.66850736

>>66850549
Is vsojo really a corp? Looks more like an agency. (Talents own their model, for example)

>> No.66850747

>>66850549
>niji
I seriously doubt it
>vshojo
depends if they want to try a JP thing again. With Miguel gone and Henya and Kson factually EN I can't see it either.
She will probably just be more active on her RM for the time being

>> No.66850864

>>66839550
>>66843345
As an added note, the reason why in JP exist the tactic of "bullying" an employee until they quit is precisely because their worker protection laws are equally retarded on the worker's side, and as far as I know, the company has to still paid the former worker if they fire them for a good chunk of time, regardless if they got a new gig or not.

>> No.66850890

>>66850547
If you think nijifaggots aren't stirring things up then you are one

>> No.66850926

>>66849937
Keep copping & seething, sis

>> No.66850973

>>66850747
>Kson
>factually EN
She's more on the JP side.
If i had to estimate I would say Kson is 70% JP.

>> No.66851415

>>66850973
huh, interesting, I'm kinda out of the loop with her desu so I didn't know. But even then I can't see Mel going there just now. If it's just for Kson she can stay indie since they did some stuff together there already.
Also, how willing would vshojo be to take another holoreject and Kson nepo after Miguel? From what I recall she did just ok-ish, and Mel has many times less gachikoi to bring over

>> No.66851490

>>66851415
Miguel didn't even try, Mel would give her best.

>> No.66851579

>>66834978
laplus and matsuri have done worse you mindless corpodrone
pull tha tonge out of cover's ass faggot

>> No.66852013

>>66851415
Pretty sure they would take her if she wants in. And she's on good terms with Kson so I could see it happening.
I hope they would bring her in with another JP considering that they wanted to add some more JP's last year. If VshojoJP has like 4-5 members I think we won't see a repeat of the Nazuna situation.

>> No.66852033

>>66850001
Just don't have a retarded oshi

>> No.66852863

>>66835758
Not being able to see my oshi achieve her dream hurts. This all hurts more than ever imagined it could. It's the suddenness. A blow to the gut and heart.

>> No.66853857

>>66852033
but they are the cutest

>> No.66853940

>>66851415
No point in joining when she'd be the only JOP

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